subject:"z\/OS 3.1 documentation"

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2024-04-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:27:51 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:

>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
>usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
> 
That apparently remains at the GA level.  There's a refresh at:



... the organization is slightly different.  The .htm index and the .pdx index 
work.

>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
>as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
I think the refresh is better.  The .htm index may be what you need.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman

On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:51:11 -0500, Paul Gilmartin  wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:08:27 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>
>>In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create.  That
>>would scare people I think.
>>
>???  Feels like a silly restriction.  Is there a reason for it?  Integrity?

Most likely security. Hard symlinks use inode bypassing the original file/path 
auth. Additionally, deleting the original file leaves the file available thru 
the hardlink potentially referencing outdated data. Softlink redirects the file 
to another location with authorization that is not always apparent. As for 
silly restriction, you'll need to decide for yourself.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-29 Thread Jeremy Nicoll

On Sun, 29 Oct 2023, at 20:51, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:08:27 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>
>>In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create.  That
>>would scare people I think.
>>
> ???  Feels like a silly restriction.  Is there a reason for it?  Integrity?

If this is the sort of link that lets someone define a sort of shortcut with
one name that points to a file with a completely different name, but
doesn't clearly indicate that (in File Explorer for example) ... then it's
surely something that malware would be likely to do to disguise its
elements.

Bear in mind that Windows already defaults to not showing file 
extensions in File Explorer - lunacy in my view.

So it's probably to protect naive users.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:08:27 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:

>In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create.  That
>would scare people I think.
>
???  Feels like a silly restriction.  Is there a reason for it?  Integrity?

I have one starting to work in Rexx, avoiding the VBS constraint.
What platforms support VBS, anyway?

Rexx seems to be easier than my 2.5 attempt, ,\mostly in sed.

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Auto: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-19 Thread Frederic Mancini

Je suis absent le 20 octobre 2023.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-19 Thread Jeremy Nicoll

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023, at 06:12, Brian Westerman wrote:
> In fact, it works VERY well.  I don't mind the dos boxes opening and 
> closing, they are REALLY fast and if there wern't so many of them you 
> probably would not notice that anything happened.

In the past I've used a small utility named SilentCMD which suppresses
those briefly-opening cmd.exe terminal windows.

I found it especially useful for commands run from the Windows task
scheduler & commands run before & after profiles run by a backup
utility where the annoying flash of a briefly opened window would 
happen at unpredictable moments.

It's available from: https://github.com/stbrenner/SilentCMD

Despite the comments which suggest it's just for running .bat or .cmd
files I often used it for running ooRexx execs ie my first argument was
often "rexx.exe".

My old notes suggest that rexxhide.exe (meant to run an exec without
a console window) didn't work properly (though I don't remember 
precisely how, nor which version of ooRexx that was with) when the
exec was started by the task scheduler, but that using SilentCMD.exe
solved that.  

Stephan Brenner also has a basic website (from which you can find
his linkedin profile) at:  https://www.stephan-brenner.com

There's also a forked version that apparently supports use with 
Powershell or Python scripts, & makes changes to logging & use of
work directories, at:

  https://github.com/mikefirefly/SilentCMD

though I've not tried that one.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Brian Westerman

In fact, it works VERY well.  I don't mind the dos boxes opening and closing, 
they are REALLY fast and if there wern't so many of them you probably would not 
notice that anything happened.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan


No thanks, I'll just stick with what I have since it works already.

On 10/18/2023 8:27 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:

Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up, 
then change the shortcut to run minimized.

Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlinks to each of 
the manuals without path. Save the word document as a PDF in the same directory 
as the manuals.


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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman

Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up, 
then change the shortcut to run minimized.

Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlinks to each of 
the manuals without path. Save the word document as a PDF in the same directory 
as the manuals.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:08:27 -0700, Tom Brennan  
wrote:

>In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create.  That
>would scare people I think.
>
>I'm not interested in messing with somebody's environment variables.
>That would scare people too I think.
>
>Yes there's a reason not to rename:  The manuals have internal links to
>each other which reference the original IBM filename.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan

In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create.  That 
would scare people I think.


I'm not interested in messing with somebody's environment variables. 
That would scare people too I think.


Yes there's a reason not to rename:  The manuals have internal links to 
each other which reference the original IBM filename.


On 10/18/2023 4:57 PM, Jon Perryman wrote:

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:15 -0700, Tom Brennan  
wrote:


On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

  Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?


Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10:


Symlinks (hard or soft) is an alternative to using shortcuts.

Environment variables are allowed in shortcuts.

Is there a reason you don't rename the files? You can include the original name 
before the file type (e.g. IBM_manual_1.iea111.pdf).

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:15 -0700, Tom Brennan  
wrote:

>On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>  Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?
>
>Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10:

Symlinks (hard or soft) is an alternative to using shortcuts.

Environment variables are allowed in shortcuts.

Is there a reason you don't rename the files? You can include the original name 
before the file type (e.g. IBM_manual_1.iea111.pdf).

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:15:55 +, Farley, Peter wrote:

>Tom,
>
>For the “relative” idea, maybe fill in the “Start In” value in the *.lnk file 
>with the “current” (pwd) directory name?  Not sure if that would make any 
>difference, but it may be worth a try.
>
Are you using Tom's shortcuts or Tmp's edited TOC.htm?  Would a HTML  tag
make things better or probably worse?

At some point Windows invented "symbolic links" ("mklink command", which
inexplicably requires admin privilege!?) and are yet different from POSIX
symbolic links.  go figger.

I've had no problem with symbolic links on my desktop systems.

POSIX rules!

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Seymour J Metz

Everyone that I've seen has a forms code on the front cover.






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On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:53:48 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>...I wish that IBM would include not only the exact title in PDF metadata but 
>also the forms code.
>
Are the metadata extensible?  In one 3.1 publication I see:
Custom Metadata: no

But suppose the document is rendered before a forms code is assigned.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Farley, Peter

Tom,

For the “relative” idea, maybe fill in the “Start In” value in the *.lnk file 
with the “current” (pwd) directory name?  Not sure if that would make any 
difference, but it may be worth a try.

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On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>  Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?



Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10:



Currently my VBS script creates links like this depending on what

directory you are in when you run the script (pwd):

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut1.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z2FVjMsJA$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut1.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z2FVjMsJA$>



If I try to change that to relative, like this:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut2.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z17mxVQ5A$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut2.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z17mxVQ5A$>



... I get an error, as if relative is not allowed:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut3.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z0Wl5_19Q$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut3.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z0Wl5_19Q$>



I could call a DOS window and have it open the relative file, but then I

see a DOS window for a split second which bugs me, and the shortcut also

appears as a DOS window icon.  So I'm sticking with what I have.

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut4.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z1xI5UUyg$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut4.png__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!Mx2ZOw4YcO5e5Oui2qKON9odIKi7CrGO3U5XjT5vAtWGTX5BMy8eh6w7AMn1-AZyjYi9eYu6ptsP-4Uy2z1xI5UUyg$>



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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Tom Brennan


On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

 Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?


Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10:

Currently my VBS script creates links like this depending on what 
directory you are in when you run the script (pwd):

https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut1.png

If I try to change that to relative, like this:
https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut2.png

... I get an error, as if relative is not allowed:
https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut3.png

I could call a DOS window and have it open the relative file, but then I 
see a DOS window for a split second which bugs me, and the shortcut also 
appears as a DOS window icon.  So I'm sticking with what I have.

https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/shortcut4.png

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:53:48 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>...I wish that IBM would include not only the exact title in PDF metadata but 
>also the forms code.
>
Are the metadata extensible?  In one 3.1 publication I see:
Custom Metadata: no

But suppose the document is rendered before a forms code is assigned.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Seymour J Metz

It turns out that the setting is locked to download. Given that, I'll look at 
constructing shortcuts. Can windows shortcuts use relative paths?

I wish that IBM would include not only the exact title in PDF metadata but also 
the forms code.

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:17:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message to the 
>effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can just use 
>Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use 
>approved software. I will eventually be migrated to W11; does that come with 
>Chrome?
>
Conformity is too often the enemy of productivity.

Otherwise, in the 3.1 PDF metadata I see such as:
Title:   z/OS: z/OS Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services
Title:   z/OS: z/OS C Curses
Title:   z/OS: z/OS C/C++ Runtime Library Reference
...
Too many "z/OS: z/OS" for convenient searches.  If IBM were to argue that
PDF metadata aren't a user interface, I'd counter by saying they supply them
to users.  Titles in the metadata should match those on document covers.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:17:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message to the 
>effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can just use 
>Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use 
>approved software. I will eventually be migrated to W11; does that come with 
>Chrome?
>
Conformity is too often the enemy of productivity.

Otherwise, in the 3.1 PDF metadata I see such as:
Title:   z/OS: z/OS Using REXX and z/OS UNIX System Services
Title:   z/OS: z/OS C Curses
Title:   z/OS: z/OS C/C++ Runtime Library Reference
...
Too many "z/OS: z/OS" for convenient searches.  If IBM were to argue that
PDF metadata aren't a user interface, I'd counter by saying they supply them
to users.  Titles in the metadata should match those on document covers.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:17:14 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message
> to the effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can 
> just
> use Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use 
> approved software.
> I will eventually be migrated to W11; does that come with Chrome?

TARGET=_blank will open open a new tab MS Edge. Since a download is occurring, 
the new tab serves no purpose and should either close or not be opened.

W11 will come with MS Edge. This is the replacement for MS IE. Using the open 
source Chromium eliminates a lot of work for MS. From experience, Chrome 
provides extra security that is not included in Chromium.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:12:25 -0700, Tom Brennan  
wrote:

>I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either
>downloading the file or viewing in the browser.  I just did this just
>now in Edge:

My guess is that MS Edge setting "Always download PDF files" has been turned 
on.   SETTINGS -> Cookies and site permissions -> PDF documents

MS Edge and Chrome are the same basic browsers. In fact, most browser use the 
same base browser code and tailor it to look unique. The base code is called 
Chromium located at chromium.org which was written by Google.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman

I figured out my problem with getting Tom's process to work.  My folders are 
all set as ReadOnly because OneDrive was running.  I ended Onedrive and while 
all the folders still show as readonly, they aren't really any more and the 
process ran fine, after which I turned OneDrive on again.

I finally remembered that I had to do this last time as well.  This time I made 
a note so that I don't have to look dumb (again).

Brian

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:08:25 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>When I'm forced to migrate to w11 at work, will that include a new browser?
>
Won't that be up to your employer?

In the TOC.htm file I see:
1.Open your file explorer to the subdirectory where you extracted this 
collection.

2.Look for a file with the ".pdx" extension. If your subdirectory is 
sorted alphabetically by name, the ".pdx" file is near the bottom of the list 
of files.

3.Right mouse click on the file with the ".pdx" extension and you 
should receive a prompt to "Open with". Select "Adobe Acrobat Reader DC".

Line 2 should be made an anchor to the .pdx.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Seymour J Metz

On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message to the 
effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can just use 
Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use 
approved software. I will eventually be migrated to W11; does that come with 
Chrome?

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I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either
downloading the file or viewing in the browser.  I just did this just
now in Edge:

- Clicked the 3 dots at the far right of the address bar and selected
Settings

- Typed PDF in the search field and scrolled down until I found PDF
Documents

- Selected that, and adjusted the "Always download PDF files" option

When set to viewing mode, target=_blank tells the browser to use a new
tab instead of replacing the current tab.  That leaves the index open
for more selections.  I don't think that's related at all to download/view.

On 10/13/2023 8:44 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to 
> "download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to 
> target=_new didn't help.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Seymour J Metz

My initial reaction to edge was that m$ had actually managed to do something 
worse than IE.

When I'm forced to migrate to w11 at work, will that include a new browser?

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:12:25 -0700, Tom Brennan \wrote:

>I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either
>downloading the file or viewing in the browser.  I just did this just
>now in Edge:
>
But no third option such as "Open with helper app ..."?  Some
might prefer Adobe Reader.

I don't have this "Edge" thing.  I think I wouldn't use it.

Firefox allows  me:
Open in Firefox
Always ask
Save File
Portable Document Format (PDF)  Use OS default application
Use other...

I could imagine, but don't see "Stream (not download) to helper app."

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:12:25 -0700, Tom Brennan \wrote:

>I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either
>downloading the file or viewing in the browser.  I just did this just
>now in Edge:
> 
But no third option such as "Open with helper app ..."?  Some
might prefer Adobe Reader.

I don't have this "Edge" thing.  I think I wouldn't use it.

Firefox allows  me:
Open in Firefox
Always ask
Save File
Portable Document Format (PDF)  Use OS default application
Use other...

I could imagine, but don't see "Stream (not download) to helper app."

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Tom Brennan

I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either 
downloading the file or viewing in the browser.  I just did this just 
now in Edge:


- Clicked the 3 dots at the far right of the address bar and selected 
Settings


- Typed PDF in the search field and scrolled down until I found PDF 
Documents


- Selected that, and adjusted the "Always download PDF files" option

When set to viewing mode, target=_blank tells the browser to use a new 
tab instead of replacing the current tab.  That leaves the index open 
for more selections.  I don't think that's related at all to download/view.


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Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to 
"download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to 
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

Shmuel - this appears to be an issue unique to Edge and one that Microsoft
will have to address.

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Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to
"download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to
target=_new didn't help.

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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed
it by that much.  The IBM index file was changed again so my old code
needed to be pretty-much redone.  It seems to work ok for me, creating
directories and shortcuts.  It also creates a new file index.html which
is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles
so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to
select something.

If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd
wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD
YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q
pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8
jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk
HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h
AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

I use Chrome as my browser on Windows but thought I'd try Edge (something I
haven't tried for months).

I opened the index html (read me 1st) and clicked on a link for a pub and it
did 'download' the pub even though is it local.

Seems like an issue with Edge but not sure how to fix it - just confirming.

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Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to
"download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to
target=_new didn't help.

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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed
it by that much.  The IBM index file was changed again so my old code
needed to be pretty-much redone.  It seems to work ok for me, creating
directories and shortcuts.  It also creates a new file index.html which
is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles
so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to
select something.

If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprd
wRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gD
YwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8q
pp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8
jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQk
HLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8h
AztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Seymour J Metz

Have you gotten index.html to work with edge? Specifically, it seems to 
"download" the PDF instead of opening a new tab. Changing target=_blank to 
target=_new didn't help.






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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 3:08 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed
it by that much.  The IBM index file was changed again so my old code
needed to be pretty-much redone.  It seems to work ok for me, creating
directories and shortcuts.  It also creates a new file index.html which
is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles
so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to
select something.

If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk:
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1viklOGAw9OqNB2SkOE2E_expAQAttX-vsXqku-YeNBBprdwRJVOP-1Ia44YaEkD51KHejjQIJlf-lgX8rOjf-zjwymUUTMvoJCN75kF96pQX33u6iyQiSix1gDYwWMLUUNVNbCs0WwGyJL0UCOfxvcdZicnparUusSBIB1YAI7VfP-EbZkZUgrbyVu3pMT5Z57_y8qpp18jHeoEQ4fYAtsIDUmv-SvQFjiFmwGNTwjN6W1Cld3yj0EwwwWh1ym0XHUa7jGxSHHigczTNH8jTvGu9Ed1U17_lN8KH8vJF1oIeDoZYJYyW3t1g93xK7_wF_DCJLzC8FrBqKr8SWIef7FBa-mUpQkHLWg52pkoBEHk9uISvY87FqQY3mWZhNqOd173hzlUDGyZ_yA9cdpCHBlVR7KEo4g9iy56mdTGh8hAztzX3ICo4R1JRnvH5tcx7/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-13 Thread Brian Westerman

I get:
If you see a lot of DOS windows quickly opening and closing, that's normal.
Reading file 1.READ_ME_FIRST_zOS_3.1_TOC.htm
Creating a modified version of the HTML index - see file index.html
Creating directories and shortcuts for each manual group and each pdf file - 
please wait...
D:\Manuals\@zOS31\create_shortcuts_31.vbs(357, 5) WshShortcut.Save: Unable to 
save shortcut "D:\Manuals\@zOS31\Encryption Facility for zOS\Encryption 
Facility for zOS Planning and Customizing.lnk".

I think this happened the last time we did this, but I can't remember what was 
done to fix it.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-12 Thread Tom Brennan

Well, I said "today" but it's now 8 minutes after midnight so I missed 
it by that much.  The IBM index file was changed again so my old code 
needed to be pretty-much redone.  It seems to work ok for me, creating 
directories and shortcuts.  It also creates a new file index.html which 
is a simpler version of the ibm browser index, with links on the titles 
so you don't have to tediously move the mouse over to the right to 
select something.


If anybody is interested see this page on the server under my desk:
https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Brian Westerman

Thanks,

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Brian Westerman

Tom's system allowed me to use the files without a browser.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Tom Brennan

I do,  I just haven't had a chance yet to try it with the new 3.1 htm 
file and (most likely) make any needed changes.  Later today...


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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:38:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>That's what I'm doing, and it works fine on everything but edge.
>
Report the problem to the supplier.

(Firefox used to do that, but it's  better now.)

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz

That's what I'm doing, and it works fine on everything but edge.


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On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 12:18:55 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Yes, but what if you want to access them from your local drive? I edited 
>index.html from 2.5 to point to local copies and Edge decided to "download" 
>them instead of opening a new file.
>
I'm doing that.  The *_TOC.htm file allows my browser to access unzipped
local PDFs, nicely organized in shelves, via relative URLs.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:11 AM

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>Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual 
>names?
>
You shouldn't need if you can just open the *_TOC.htm file in a browsert/

Otherwise, do you have the Ubuntu utilities?  I have one that runs in
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 12:18:55 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Yes, but what if you want to access them from your local drive? I edited 
>index.html from 2.5 to point to local copies and Edge decided to "download" 
>them instead of opening a new file.
>
I'm doing that.  The *_TOC.htm file allows my browser to access unzipped
local PDFs, nicely organized in shelves, via relative URLs.


From: \ Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:11 AM

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:46:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
>
>Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual 
>names?
>
You shouldn't need if you can just open the *_TOC.htm file in a browsert/

Otherwise, do you have the Ubuntu utilities?  I have one that runs in
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-11 Thread Seymour J Metz

Yes, but what if you want to access them from your local drive? I edited 
index.html from 2.5 to point to local copies and Edge decided to "download" 
them instead of opening a new file.


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On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:46:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
>
>Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual 
>names?
>
You shouldn't need if you can just open the *_TOC.htm file in a browsert/

Otherwise, do you have the Ubuntu utilities?  I have one that runs in
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:46:20 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
>
>Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual 
>names?
> 
You shouldn't need if you can just open the *_TOC.htm file in a browsert/

Otherwise, do you have the Ubuntu utilities?  I have one that runs in
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Brian Westerman

Tom,

Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual 
names?

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:51:08 +, Farley, Peter wrote:

>I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the 
>missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files 
>inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC 
>files.
>
However, the server deviates from RFC 7232:

4.1.  304 Not Modified
...
   The server generating a 304 response MUST generate any of the
   following header fields that would have been sent in a 200 (OK)
   response to the same request: Cache-Control, Content-Location, Date,
   ETag, Expires, and Vary.

... by failing to return an "ETag" field.  I needed to modify a conditional
fetch script to accommodate that.  It's probably the fault of a contractor:
Server: Cleversafe
X-Clv-S3-Version: 2.5

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz

Clicking on the link in the e-mail.


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On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:15:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>.
>
>NoSuchKey
>The specified key does not exist.
>
>/ibm-docs-static-content/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-
>
>3ca221f8-a30d-448b-801b-446f630f2d4f
>404
>
>
Was that a search on the web?  (How?)

Or a search with local Adobe Reader?

What options and keys?

zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).pdx
(gasp!  Non-portable filename!)
Works for me with Adobe Reader via Association.

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>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:26 PM
>
>On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>
>>Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
>>html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work
>>at all without the html index.  https://secure-web.cisco.com/ ... Oops! ... >
>
How come damn secure-web grabbed Tom's URL nut mine?

>Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at
><https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0>
>links to
><https://ibm-docs-static-content.s3.us.cloud-object-storage.appdomain.cloud/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).zip>
>which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

+1

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Yes!  Lionel mentioned that this morning in another group.  And I'm pretty sure 
it was his pressure that got IBM's attention.  Thanks Lionel!

On 10/10/2023 1:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
> 
>> Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads 
>> the html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't 
>> work at all without the html index.  
>> https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797
>>
> Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at 
> <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0>
> links to
> <https://ibm-docs-static-content.s3.us.cloud-object-storage.appdomain.
> cloud/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).zip>
> which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.
> 

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:51:08 +, Farley, Peter  wrote:

>I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the 
>missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files 
>inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC 
>files.
> 
There are several oversights here:

o I suspect the move the .pdf files from a rendering platform
  to another repository without preserving timestamps.

o The zip utility marks content with time of zip, not file timestamp.

o Windows has historically foolishly preferred local times
  rather than Universal.

I wrote a script that uses the "pdfinfo" freeware to extract pdf
timestamps and touch file times accordingly.

>I DL’d that same file on Friday 12/2 and it did NOT have the TOC files present.
>
>I guess they actually listened!
>
However with a regression to an unfriendly format that had been remedied
by 2.5: the anchors are inconveniently far away to the right.  Better would
be to make the titles anchors with HREF= attributes to the pdfs.

Where's Susan Shumway when we need her!?

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan

Yes!  Lionel mentioned that this morning in another group.  And I'm 
pretty sure it was his pressure that got IBM's attention.  Thanks Lionel!


On 10/10/2023 1:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:


Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work
at all without the html index.  https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797


Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at

links to

which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.



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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Farley, Peter

I concur, they have updated the contents of the 1Gb+ zip file to include the 
missing TOC file(s) without changing the external file name, but all the files 
inside are now dated 2023-10-09 instead of 2023-09-29, including the new TOC 
files.

I DL’d that same file on Friday 10/2 and it did NOT have the TOC files present.

I guess they actually listened!

Peter

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On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22: 24: 51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >Over the years I've 
been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the >html file and produces 
Windows shortcuts. But of course it can't work >at all without the html index. 
https: //urldefense. com/v3/__https: //blog. mildredbrennan. 
com/?p=797__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ugG0uwzE$

On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:

>Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the

>html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work

>at all without the html index.  
>https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ugG0uwzE$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ugG0uwzE$>

>

Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ukbRAJKb$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ukbRAJKb$>>

links to

<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ibm-docs-static-content.s3.us.cloud-object-storage.appdomain.cloud/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).zip__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ugJziChI$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ibm-docs-static-content.s3.us.cloud-object-storage.appdomain.cloud/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).zip__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LOL0gpdeHgM_uLA-UQqSwEt7YnIyyqhy4q7gwhqvSa-wKfoCzhH1kHT3OAbXmRgVwbbKEbjGn4HkNPG3VInc8qWb9o_0TEk6ugJziChI$>>

which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:15:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:

>.
>
>NoSuchKey
>The specified key does not exist.
>
>/ibm-docs-static-content/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-
>
>3ca221f8-a30d-448b-801b-446f630f2d4f
>404
>
>
Was that a search on the web?  (How?)

Or a search with local Adobe Reader?

What options and keys?

zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).pdx
(gasp!  Non-portable filename!)
Works for me with Adobe Reader via Association.

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>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:26 PM
>
>On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>
>>Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
>>html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work
>>at all without the html index.  https://secure-web.cisco.com/ ... Oops! ... >
>
How come damn secure-web grabbed Tom's URL nut mine?

>Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at
>
>links to
>
>which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz

.

NoSuchKey
The specified key does not exist.

/ibm-docs-static-content/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-

3ca221f8-a30d-448b-801b-446f630f2d4f
404



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On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:

>Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
>html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work
>at all without the html index.  
>https://secure-web.cisco.com/1dlP6ORN6IBWy202ab-T4Cn-idZtHWwYjINts5lutIwmICdmUj7spogYNRCSJEtA-KGOorcv1L_iF2IgcxyeCLUy0gfHAXfb6OyTn0CjonGDf3APcFWhBEQSX4_wplqDI-lhCQSgD-g265HdrNGxxr5C2JXfXKAKjn7QrsbFLii3Scd_6JeQEAc5h3B3Pc2htq02WqyZhwBG5hTxe14WJMVAKjMBmO1fHZHQvCOoex1iwnk1Ei3rhwkXFxsVeMKPbgwqxrL58-HMQJ4MbmA-GSzmLtB0OEQta2Bu1RF8am4xuSN5vRr8i91VsBjHTLVos1a57gWlYbpG8zn7-E0BwaIZ3Aaw_IaW3QKgdym1_IkdLJ8xgJQRfwo0V_yiYQ9r6LMj_WuVIwCTJ-MKYDqFgXd2R_rcBikZvm46Bfgmv2Kk/https%3A%2F%2Fblog.mildredbrennan.com%2F%3Fp%3D797
>
Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at
<https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0>
links to
<https://ibm-docs-static-content.s3.us.cloud-object-storage.appdomain.cloud/pdx/SSLTBW_3.1.0/zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).zip>
which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 22:24:51 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:

>Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the
>html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work
>at all without the html index.  https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797
>
Apparently as of  2023-10-09 14:15:47, the page at

links to

which contains */*_TOC.htm, organized in shelves.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-01 Thread Tom Brennan

Over the years I've been trying to maintain a VBS script that reads the 
html file and produces Windows shortcuts.  But of course it can't work 
at all without the html index.  https://blog.mildredbrennan.com/?p=797


On 10/1/2023 5:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


I have a WiP script that contains nicely named symlinks (no shelves).



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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:31:56 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:38:33 -0500 Bobbie Jo Justice wrote:
>
>:>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=documentation-pdf-files-zos-310-library
>
>Have you played with the HTML to make it work against local files?
>
At the top of that page, there's a link to All products/  z/OS/  3.1.0

Which takes me to a page containing:

That zip archive contains no .htm[l] file.  Where should I look for the .htm[l]?

A similar zip archive for 2.5 contains an index.html which works splendidly
against local files at the 2.5 release.

Using an older .html against the current release is shortsighted because
it won't track new documents.

I have a WiP script that contains nicely named symlinks (no shelves).

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:38:33 -0500 Bobbie Jo Justice 
wrote:

:>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=documentation-pdf-files-zos-310-library

Have you played with the HTML to make it work against local files?

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 14:38:18 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
>(Depending on your desktop system) you might use pdfinfo to extract the
>Title: from each .pdf and create a parallel directory of symlinks.
>(don't rename the files themselves.  That might vitiate hyperlinks.)
>A script would be SMOP.
>
>But no shelves.
>
Don't count on pdfinfo!:
1048 $ pdfinfo GI135664.pdf
Title:   untitled
Producer:Acrobat Distiller 23.0 (Macintosh)
CreationDate:Wed Aug 23 11:05:01 2023 MDT
ModDate: Wed Aug 23 11:05:01 2023 MDT
...
Distiller!?

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

This is what I did to get a working html and posted here 
https://discordapp.com/channels/880322471608344597/1157298242212597781

Since the 3.1 collection does not have the html file like the 2.5 collections 
(and prior) did there is a workable solution:

1. Download the 3.1 collection
2. copy from your 2.5 collection directory the 1.read_me... file and 
subdirectory into the 3.1 directory
3. Rename them from v2r5 o v3r1
4. Edit the htm file and change 2.5 to 3.1 and v2r5 to v3r1
5. save it and your good to go

Caveats - any new products/pubs that are new to 3.1 won't be there (e.g. AI, 
DSFS wasn't there, and probably more).

This process does not change the order number for the pubs but will fix the url 
for the related pdf.

Ymmv but probably not by much

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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 1:52 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

That's a lot of work Tom, just to find one manual.
I'm thinking about taking the 2.5 .html file produced by IBM to see if I modify 
it for 3.1; after all many of the files will have similar names. But I'll wait 
a while longer to see if anything is forthcoming from IBM.

Lennie

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Sent: 30 September 2023 08:41
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html

On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
> 
>> CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic 
>> PDF; no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, 
>> reporting and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just 
>> chapters in one PDF.  I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option 
>> but to get used to it.
>>
> The undesirable other extreme is as IBM did in splitting the Assembler 
> Callable Services simply by alphabetic ranges.  Search, Index, and ToC become 
> less useful.
> 
>> So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM 
>> had taken up the practice too.  But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I 
>> guess you found them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select 
>> individual PDFs to be downloaded without everything else?
>>
> The page at <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0> shows some 
> organization into "shelves", but not what I'm used to.  I see no shelf 
> for Unix System Services as formerly.
> 
> The 1GB .zip does have a .pdx.  I overlooked it earlier somehow.  It 
> organizes search results by relevance.  But some may find the Adobe 
> Reader requirement onerous.
> 
> But no index.htm[l].
> 
> And the collection expands into "zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29)/".
> I'm uncomfortable with using shell metacharacters in path names.
> 

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:51:55 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:

>That's a lot of work Tom, just to find one manual.
>I'm thinking about taking the 2.5 .html file produced by IBM to see if I 
>modify it for 3.1; after all many of the files will have similar names. But 
>I'll wait a while longer to see if anything is forthcoming from IBM.
>
(Depending on your desktop system) you might use pdfinfo to extract the
Title: from each .pdf and create a parallel directory of symlinks.
(don't rename the files themselves.  That might vitiate hyperlinks.)
A script would be SMOP.

But no shelves.


>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Brennan
>Sent: 30 September 2023 08:41
>
>Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html
>
The .pdx index usefully reports search results in relevance order.

>On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>
>> The page at  shows some 
>> organization into "shelves", but not what I'm used to.  I see no shelf 
>> for Unix System Services as formerly.
>> 
And the headers contain:
ETag: "383de8d1a8081bc2df3a0d69e0bd025f"
Last-Modified: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:57:39 GMT
useful for conditionally fetching when updated.  and:
Content-Length: 1089700627
to show a progress meter for impatient people like me.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

That's a lot of work Tom, just to find one manual.
I'm thinking about taking the 2.5 .html file produced by IBM to see if I modify 
it for 3.1; after all many of the files will have similar names. But I'll wait 
a while longer to see if anything is forthcoming from IBM.

Lennie

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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html

On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
> 
>> CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic 
>> PDF; no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, 
>> reporting and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just 
>> chapters in one PDF.  I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option 
>> but to get used to it.
>>
> The undesirable other extreme is as IBM did in splitting the Assembler 
> Callable Services simply by alphabetic ranges.  Search, Index, and ToC become 
> less useful.
> 
>> So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM 
>> had taken up the practice too.  But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I 
>> guess you found them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select 
>> individual PDFs to be downloaded without everything else?
>>
> The page at <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0> shows some 
> organization into "shelves", but not what I'm used to.  I see no shelf 
> for Unix System Services as formerly.
> 
> The 1GB .zip does have a .pdx.  I overlooked it earlier somehow.  It 
> organizes search results by relevance.  But some may find the Adobe 
> Reader requirement onerous.
> 
> But no index.htm[l].
> 
> And the collection expands into "zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29)/".
> I'm uncomfortable with using shell metacharacters in path names.
> 

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Roberto Halais

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 11:28 AM Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw <
032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
> usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
> I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
> Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
>
> However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
> as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
> Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?
>
> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>
>
>
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-30 Thread Tom Brennan


Here are my notes: https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/pdx.html

On 9/29/2023 9:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:


CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic PDF; 
no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, reporting 
and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just chapters in one PDF. 
 I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option but to get used to it.


The undesirable other extreme is as IBM did in splitting the Assembler Callable 
Services
simply by alphabetic ranges.  Search, Index, and ToC become less useful.


So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM had taken up 
the practice too.  But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I guess you found 
them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select individual PDFs to be downloaded 
without everything else?


The page at  shows some organization
into "shelves", but not what I'm used to.  I see no shelf for Unix System 
Services
as formerly.

The 1GB .zip does have a .pdx.  I overlooked it earlier somehow.  It organizes
search results by relevance.  But some may find the Adobe Reader requirement
onerous.

But no index.htm[l].

And the collection expands into "zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29)/".
I'm uncomfortable with using shell metacharacters in path names.



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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 22:07:33 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:

>CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic PDF; 
>no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, reporting 
>and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just chapters in one 
>PDF.  I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option but to get used to 
>it.
> 
The undesirable other extreme is as IBM did in splitting the Assembler Callable 
Services
simply by alphabetic ranges.  Search, Index, and ToC become less useful.

>So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM had 
>taken up the practice too.  But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I guess 
>you found them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select individual 
>PDFs to be downloaded without everything else?
>
The page at  shows some organization
into "shelves", but not what I'm used to.  I see no shelf for Unix System 
Services
as formerly.

The 1GB .zip does have a .pdx.  I overlooked it earlier somehow.  It organizes
search results by relevance.  But some may find the Adobe Reader requirement
onerous.

But no index.htm[l].

And the collection expands into "zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29)/".
I'm uncomfortable with using shell metacharacters in path names.

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Bob Bridges

CA has taken to combining all their various TSS manuals into one gigantic PDF; 
no more individual manuals for installation, the admins, the CFILE, reporting 
and trouble-shooting, messages and so on, they're all just chapters in one PDF. 
 I dislike it, but I don't see that I have any option but to get used to it.

So when you said you can't select individual manuals, I thought maybe IBM had 
taken up the practice too.  But no, you said "set of PDF files", so I guess you 
found them all in a single downloaded ZIP and cannot select individual PDFs to 
be downloaded without everything else?

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--- On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:27:51 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw 
 wrote:
>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain 
>the usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS 
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
>
>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by 
>title, as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
>Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Roger Lowe

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:27:51 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw 
 wrote:

>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
>usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
>
>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
>as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
>Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?
>
>Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>

Perhaps, this will help in a little way to get what you are after - 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/about?topic=how-unpack-pdx-file

Roger

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:27:51 +0100, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw  wrote:

>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
>usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
>
I see it under "Getting Started".

>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
>as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
Yes.  Grrr.  no index.htm[l] such as provided such information in prior releases

Grrr.  And the page at

Which provides post-GA updates now says:
Access to publications and content on this page will no longer be available
after September 2023. The content and publications are available today
on IBM Documentation, located here.
Will this be updated once doc updates are available?

And the page at:

for older supported releases bears a similar end-of-life notice.

>Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?
>
>Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Tom Brennan

Same as Lennie for me.  I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do with 
the pdx/idx files.


And I'm not just looking for manual titles.  I'm also looking for the 
product grouping that used to be in the html file.


On 9/29/2023 2:52 PM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:

Tom,
When I do as you suggest it simply opens an Adobe page which allows me to 
search across the entire set of PDFs. It does not give me a list of the manual 
titles and links to open the appropriate books.

Lennie

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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

I downloaded it to /downloads/zos 3.1 docs, then extracted it into the same 
folder.
You can put it wherever it makes sense to you. Having downloaded it, open 
zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).pdx with Adobe reader. It is the 
only .pdx file in the collection.

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:42:23 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck  wrote:


You found the problem with the download collection.

See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-
3848

In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM
as they had in previous z/OS download collections.

It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to
download the full collection.


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Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

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what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.- - -
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain
the usual PDF collection of documentation.

I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0

However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by
title, as there was at previous z/OS levels.

Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw




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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

Tom,
When I do as you suggest it simply opens an Adobe page which allows me to 
search across the entire set of PDFs. It does not give me a list of the manual 
titles and links to open the appropriate books.

Lennie

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Marchant
Sent: 29 September 2023 19:46
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

I downloaded it to /downloads/zos 3.1 docs, then extracted it into the same 
folder. 
You can put it wherever it makes sense to you. Having downloaded it, open 
zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).pdx with Adobe reader. It is the 
only .pdx file in the collection.

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:42:23 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck  wrote:

>You found the problem with the download collection.
>
>See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
>https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-
>3848
>
>In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM 
>as they had in previous z/OS download collections.
>
>It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to 
>download the full collection.
>
>
>Lionel B. Dyck <><
>Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
>Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
>
> Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is 
>what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.- - - 
>John Wooden
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
>Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation
>
>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain 
>the usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS 
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0
>
>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by 
>title, as there was at previous z/OS levels.
>
>Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?
>
>Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>
> 
>
>
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Tom Marchant

I downloaded it to /downloads/zos 3.1 docs, then extracted it into the same 
folder. 
You can put it wherever it makes sense to you. Having downloaded it, open 
zOS310-GA-Indexed-PDF-package-(2023-09-29).pdx with Adobe reader. It is the 
only 
.pdx file in the collection.

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:42:23 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck  wrote:

>You found the problem with the download collection.
>
>See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
>https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3848
>
>In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM as
>they had in previous z/OS download collections.
>
>It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to
>download the full collection.
>
>
>Lionel B. Dyck <><
>Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
>Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
>
>�Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
>are, reputation merely what others think you are.��� - - - John Wooden
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
>Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation
>
>Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
>usual PDF collection of documentation.
>
>I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
>Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.
>
>https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 
>
>However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
>as there was at previous z/OS levels. 
>
>Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?
>
>Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
>
> 
>
>
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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

Voted.
Lennie

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Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: 29 September 2023 16:42
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Subject: Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

You found the problem with the download collection.

See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3848

In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM as
they had in previous z/OS download collections.

It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to
download the full collection.

Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.   - - - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
usual PDF collection of documentation.

I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 

However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
as there was at previous z/OS levels. 

Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread william janulin

I agree...a READ ME FIRST document would be nice. Seems to me that used to do 
that years ago.

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  On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 11:42, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:   You 
found the problem with the download collection.

See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3848

In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM as
they had in previous z/OS download collections.

It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to
download the full collection.


Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

“Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.”   - - - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
usual PDF collection of documentation.

I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 

However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
as there was at previous z/OS levels. 

Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

 


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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

You found the problem with the download collection.

See this IBM Idea (and please vote if you agree)
https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3848

In summary I'm requesting that IBM add a READ_ME_FIRST_ZOS_V3R1_TOC.HTM as
they had in previous z/OS download collections.

It would also be VERY NICE if they made it more obvious how/where to
download the full collection.


Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.   - - - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 10:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS 3.1 documentation

Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
usual PDF collection of documentation.

I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 

However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
as there was at previous z/OS levels. 

Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

 


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Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Bobbie Jo Justice

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=documentation-pdf-files-zos-310-library

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z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-09-29 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

Having seen the announcement of z/OS 3.1 today I have tried to obtain the
usual PDF collection of documentation.

I found it can be downloaded in zip form here, by selecting "IBM z/OS
Indexed PDF/PDX Collection". This has given me the set of pdf files.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0 

However, there seems to be no way of selecting individual manuals by title,
as there was at previous z/OS levels. 

Have I downloaded the wrong package? Or is this no longer to be available?

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

 


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