Re: [ilugd] [OT] Android trouble?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: > Irritating messages keep jamming the screen on prepaid Airtel connection > regarding data usage and balance. > > Any way to stop them? > Sudev > I wish there was a way Nothing to do with Android here. Once you near your free usage quota(80% of whatever), you start getting redirect to this airtel smartbytes page, prompting you to buy additional usage, even if you do not want Additional usage. Its a scam, in trying to get you to buy quota which you may not need. For example, I had 3GBs left, and 2 days in my current cycle, yet, it became a pain to surf due to frequent redirects. I composed a very long post on a forum, and it was lost due to this silly thing. Airtel is becoming airhell. Now I am on broadband connection (DSL). I think they would be doing this across all their internet services. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open source Web Server load monitoring tools
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: > On 10 March 2010 16:36, Tanveer Singh wrote: > [SNIP] > > But before me make this plunge, we want to make an informed decision > about > > whats consuming what load. > > Is the RAM the bottleneck, or is it CPU, if its CPU which process is > eating > > CPU, how much is mysql process consuming etc., etc., > > > > So we were thinking that we run a simple monitor software which dumps > some > > graphs etc., over a period of one week, where we can compare the real > time > > traffic vs CPU load graphs etc., and which process is memory intensive, > > which is CPU intensive blah blah. > > Munin? > Munin is looking good, however, it looks like pain to setup, well I will experiment with it and see! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Open source Web Server load monitoring tools
Hi, We have a website running vbulletin and some other stuff. The number of visitors is huge, and our quad core 16GB RAM dedicated server is feeling the load. The web server is lightspeed Poking around on vbull forums revealed that most big boards run on 2 server config 1. Database server 2. Front end Web server. We are on single server. Sometime back we were on apache, and loads were very high, after moving to lightspeed, things improved, but looking at the growing web traffic, we would need to go with dual server, with one database server running mysql, and vbull frontend etc., on the other server. But before me make this plunge, we want to make an informed decision about whats consuming what load. Is the RAM the bottleneck, or is it CPU, if its CPU which process is eating CPU, how much is mysql process consuming etc., etc., So we were thinking that we run a simple monitor software which dumps some graphs etc., over a period of one week, where we can compare the real time traffic vs CPU load graphs etc., and which process is memory intensive, which is CPU intensive blah blah. Any pointers to some easy to configure stuff? regards Tanveer ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Need help about /proc//status
We have a process which is using a lot of memory, and memory usage is increasing as it runs. To do some profiling I wrote a perl script which cats /proc//status every 100 seconds. I am now interested in the memory related fields. I understood some fields, but some I did not. Can anybody help me which field(s) is the most relevant for me, Here is sample output VmPeak: 8755844 kB VmSize: 7121544 kB VmLck: 0 kB VmHWM: 8271248 kB VmRSS: 6643780 kB VmData: 7107696 kB VmStk:88 kB VmExe: 2568 kB VmLib: 2916 kB VmPTE: 13716 kB regards Tanveer ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] DoT wants verification of Internet users online
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM, PJ wrote: > Nishant Sharma writes: > > [from the news] > > Aiming at preventing the misuse of Wi-Fi connectivity by unauthorised > users, > the department of > > telecommunications has directed all telecom service providers to > implement an > online centralised > > authentication procedure for Internet subscribers. > > Sounds like a reaction to one of the Bombay attacks where an American had > an > open wifi that was used to send a terrorist message by a bomb conspirator. > > I am with the decision. Its excellent. Going by the fundamental right of equality this should be enforced for everybody. So you should no longer be allowed to put a letter in the letter box without verification. All post should be registered post. Since people can speak and communicate, before uttering a word, police verification should be done too! Welcome to 1984 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Efiling IT returns on linux?
Has anybody tried opening the XLS from income tax department on a linux machine on openoffice 3.0? Or does that work only on windows? Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Chirag Anand wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar wrote: > > > I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once > > incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and > > previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how > > many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period. > > > > One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of > netcat. > > Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script > right > > now. > > > > If this is what you're looking for: `ps -aef | grep netcat | wc -l` ? > But this will give you one extra result, as `grep netcat` will also be > counted as another running process. You can make necessary modifications > to > it and get the correct result. Hope that helps. > > -- > You missed his question. He does not want to know how many netcats are running, he wants to know that between time T and time T+Delta how many netcats were fired. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar wrote: > I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once > incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and > previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how > many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period. > > One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of netcat. > Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script right > now. > > - > ps -aef and then use grep/awk etc., to get your fix? This will work if you want to count number of netcat processes active at any given time. For duration, fire ps -aef twice, once at beginning and once at the end of duration. GET the PIDs, and then count PIDs for second ps which were not there in first ps. For example Time T It gives you 4445,4446,4447 Time T+D It gives you 4447,4449,4450 So 4447 was there beforehand, so you ignore that, and your result is 2 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] How to format an external harddisk..........having FEDORA installed in it.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Inder Bagga wrote: > Hi guys, i 've got an external harddidk having 160 GB capacity. I've > installed fedora inside with just 2 gb of space. and now rest of space > become useless. as windows os can't detect the drive so it's difficult for > me to format the disk. I've tried to delete it's partition using windows > bootable disk..but before openinf of partition window...some > hardware error occured every time.please help > > - > Download some took like gparted. It will come as a .iso Burn to CD, and boot from CD with the external HDD plugged in. Select this HDD in GPARTED, and then format it the way you want. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] A little gift - Gaurang
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote: > Gaurang Aggarwal belongs to Skoost and sent you a little gift. > > Click below to collect your gift: > http://www.skoost.com/fun?ilugd%40lists%2Elinux%2Ddelhi%2Eorg/20267730/5 > > One question for list admin, how did the from address from skoost.com got approved. If I send a mail from any arbit address to ilugd, it gets rejected, But in this case its being allowed? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Slightly OT, Laptop DVD writer
I have a dell Inspiron E1505, which has a DVD writer by Toshiba. It works fine under linux. But recently it went bad and DVD or CD writing has gone for a Toss. Therefore I need to buy a new one. Buying a Laptop DVD writer is expensive, I have heard quotes ranging from 2800-4500. However ordinary DVD writers are for 800-1000rs. I was thinking Get a SATA writer and get an external casing. there are 2 downsides 1. External power supply 2. Will it work with linux Second option is to look for something which runs entirely of USB requiring no power source. However the problem is that does such stuff work with linux. I use distros like SLAX or Puppylinux and not the mainstream ones. Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Personal invitation from pratipal singh
2009/3/18 pratipal singh : > Personal invitation from pratipal singh > ___ Sure we will all be there. Food is free, right? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Wrong disk size when partitioning
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea why this could be happening? Hi Raj, I have faced the exact same problem. My drive was being recognized as 80GB instead of 160GB, and not matter which software, which OS I tried same issue. Then I stumbled on to stuff like HD tools etc., This is a small boot disk which you can use at startup, and it boots into its own kernel. There you manually write the partition table. Take a note of the figures printed on the drive, and write them down. Then when you boot in the CD, manually write the partition table. For my western digital HD data lifeguard is available http://support.wdc.com/download/downloadxml.asp There are man by others for example hitachi http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#FeatureTool Ideally gparted should be able to repair a corrupt primary partition table. There is another tool called http://www.ptdd.com/edit.htm So you write down your end cylinder number etc., and manually fill in the data. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Amit Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > We know that lots of corporates use Linux on their servers. > > Of late, due to various reasons, corporates are using Linux for desktops as > well. > > Where can i get the list of such companies, in Delhi NCR, who have migrated > to Linux Desktops. > All companies in VLSI domain, and in EDA domain use Linux desktops for their technical staff. Managers get windows. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 'Newbie' Linuxes have me stumped!!
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:02 PM, gajendra khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should allow you to do the reconfiguration. > > If the xorg.conf has the display you want (maybe not the default one) you can > change it with the kde utility krandrtray. I did that, its asks me for keyboard and all, and then finishes, and writes xorg.conf without any display info at all. I think I am going to mandriva. Will install that today and see. With 256MB of ram OpenSuse is just dying. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] 'Newbie' Linuxes have me stumped!!
I was running Linux inside virtualbox. Naturally, my choice was gentoo, since I have been a gentoo fan and know my way around pretty much. Based on reviews etc., I decided to try ubuntu. the prime driver was source code compilation issue in gentoo. Every big package takes hours to compile! A big headache. So I thought, why not go to the world of apt-get, and try "Kubuntu" (KDE man here). Well I was able to install, and then completely get lost. I understand they have dumbed down everything, but I can't seem to get anything to work. dpkg-reconfigure xorg, gives me xconfiguration, but I can just set keyboard etc., there. There is no way to set up my display to 1280x800, like I had in gentoo! I can manually try mucking around with xorg.conf, but that breaks things and X itself does not start. I have come back shaken from ubuntu experience, I think I will go back to my oldest distro, mandriva, hopefully they will let me retain enough control! Did anybody of you who came from "hardcore linux" environment feel lost in a modern distro? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Can we code in Hindi ??
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Every common men of India want to send his child in English medium, ask him >> first !!! >> >> > That's slave mentality. If we see a cowboy we look up, where as if we see a > local farmer clad in dhoti kurta we look down. While both are farmers. 1000 > years of slavery has done some genetic mutation to us. Unfortunately we are > discussing in English. Even if I use English for various other reasons, and > I don't say others can't. Valuing our own system and language is not wrong. > It rather earns respect. Won't using hindi betraying mothertongue to a tamilian. We should code in tamil and not hindi. Coding in Hindi is betraying mothertongue, slave mentality ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Automatically setting display.. A roadblock
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I think this will be insecure, unless you're using XAUTH and other form > of ACLs provided by X, and X11 Forwarding via OpenSSH is the recommended > way to do this in my opinion, where you don't need such ugly hacks :D > . For more information, RTFM ssh(1). > ssh? I am not using ssh. The box I am logging onto is via rsh. For ssh its simple, no DISPLAY nonsense, just do ssh -X and it works > And what if you're logged-in at :1 and want to work at :0, hmm...? Nope, I don't want to do that. All I want is this Suppose I do a startx -- :1 on alpha My X server starts I open xterm and do a rsh -l username beta When I login on beta, my display should be automatically set to alpha:1 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Automatically setting display.. A roadblock
I used to have this in my .cshrc
set DISP = `who am i | sed -e "s/(//" -e "s/)//" | awk '{printf "%s",$6}'`
setenv DISPLAY {$DISP}:0.0
This works as long as I am on X server 0
So my local machine is alpha and I login to beta, I would have a
DISPLAY set to alpha:0
The problem is what if my local machine X was started with startx --
:1 and not startx
Then also it would set it to alpha:0, though the correct usage would be alpha:1
Is there a way of automatically doing that?
regards
Tanveer
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[ilugd] Firefox 3.0 static build
Hi, I am stuck with a RH Enterprise 4.0 desktop at work. Due to very obvious reasons, upgrading to 5 is not possible. This leads to a big problem Frefox 3 won't run because it wants newer pango. Of course I can build a new pango, but that requires 500 billion other packages rebuilt and 5 billion errors and crashes. Its such a royal mess that I don't even want to go there again(did it once and ended up screwing everything up, was luckily building in a separate dir, so rm did the work Now this poses a problem. I am stuck with firefox 2 The only way out? Somehow get a ff3 static build for linux. Is it possible to get one? I remember long time back when firefox was firebird, there used to be some kind gentlemen who used to build static binaries for firebird for all platforms. For firefox 3.0 I am not able to find any static binary. I understand that with static binary its going to be huge, but space is not really a big issue. any help please Tanveer Singh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 02-Jul-08, at 5:47 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: > >> Logically yes, but not with respect to popularity. Timezone package >> contains major cities of the timezone rather than the city/suburb of >> the correct meridian. eg, CET/CEST. >> I wish to propose to change the city to Delhi from Kolkata. > > I propose that it be left with Kolkata, or, if changed at all, > changed to Chennai. This move will cause Riots in Bangalore, I suggest it be changed to Kanchejunga, since nobody lives there. So no group can say they got shortchanged. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 02-Jul-08, at 3:37 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: > >> 1. Legacy Calcutta Standard Time used during the British carried over >> 2. Delhi stands very close to Dili in pronunciation and spelling, and >> can be confusing. > > If it aint broken why fix it? I concur. Moreover Delhi has very high crime rate against women. Changing Calcutta to Delhi would drive women tuxer's(not that there are too many of them) away from Linux. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Advocacy rules (was) Re: Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think advocacy of a product in the process of being open sourced is > ok. In fact should be done as more people trying out and using the > product because it is being open sourced would Officially, is this a FOSS list or a Linux list. If its the latter, in that case any objection to advocacy of anything else(which includes FreeBSD etc.) is not proper. Internationally I have seen LUG(s) which are LINUX user groups, and FUG(s), which are Free OSS etc,. groups. Both cater to different things. Not all FOSS is Linux, so if a list is advertised as a Linux Users Group list, then the primary focus should be "Linux", with passing mention of other open source and free software projects. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Laptop Lessons, Suggestions and Tips Needed-- Is Dell da best choice ?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Prashant Batra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > go for the 17000 one.. try it its new and with asus motherboard.. it > will be fine.. > i have a lenovo laptop.. it works perfectly fine with linux.. m > completely satisfied.. waise i wont suggest u dell as some of my > friends were not satisfied with the same.. > > 1. Do not top post. It breaks threads and makes discussions unproductive 2. Just because its preloaded with linux does not mean it fits his needs. . This guy needs processing power, and good graphics, and a low end laptop cannot provide that. My suggestion, find out the minimum benchmark you need in performance terms, and then choose among laptops which fit that criteria ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] What the hell? [WAS:Re: Tinyurl [WAS: Re: Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest]]
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Linux Linghamish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know what's wrong with this list. You people just push it too hard. > > Isnt top posting against forum rules. Please go through the rules of this forum before posting :D ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Tinyurl [WAS: Re: Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest]
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 May 2008, Gaurav Mishra wrote: > >> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM, sudhanwa Jogalekar > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> French guys consolidated a guide for this > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/5ltdvl > > > > Please don't post tinyurls to lists. A number of people (including me) > > treat all tinyurls as suspect, for a number of reasons: > > > > > > > > > - A malicious user could post a tinyurl to a malware/infection URL. > > I thought people on a Linux mailing list would largely be immune to this! > > Thats because you think everybody on the list uses Linux while checking their mails.. But this may not be the case! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>>>> "Tanveer" == Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip] > > Tanveer> I don't have root access. So is this possible. How to do that,. > Tanveer> currently the most stable combo I have found is running ESD. > Amarok is > Tanveer> running fine with that. > > ALSA is the lowest-level user-space interface with sound cards in > GNU/Linux. The drivers of sound cards implements ALSA interface. The > sound servers exists to provide multiplexing, so that multiple > applications can access your underlying sound devices. esd (or ESound) > is the sound server which comes with earlier releases of GNOME, so I > guess you're running GNOME. artsd is the sound server which is shipping > with KDE < 3.6. xine and other audio/video backends have support for > these sound servers. > > Tanveer> However if I select ALSA sound system in amarok(engine), xinelib > cribs that > Tanveer> it cannot initialize drivers. > > Since you're running esd, thats why no other application can open ALSA > devices atm, which why xine responds negatively. > > Tanveer> So I am stuck with OSS or ESD. > > If you want to disable ESD, goto System->Preferences->Sound, and uncheck > Enable Software Sound mixing (or something similar option). If you want > to instantaneously do that, 'killall esd' :) > > ALSA[1] is an extremely flexible sound system. And its plugins[2] are > awesome. > Thanks! your post gave me direction to go and debug And what I found? The KDE system locks the sound system for 60 seconds after doing anything with it, so no other applications can use it. thats why after any system bell kinda event, I had this silly problem crop up in amarok. I went to kcontrol and disabled the kde sound system. In amarok I selected alsa sound system, and everything is rocking now Thanks! One question though, in windows if application A is playing something, and I start application B which plays some other sound, I usually hear a mix of both through the speakers, can such a thing happen in linux too? Just speculating. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > [snip] > > > Its the official policy of most major newpapers/magazines not to post > > anything against advertisers. So unless there is a major court case and > > convictions etc., the story will not be published. > > Sorry for questioning your statement but why are you so sure? Do you > have any direct experience? > > A very good friend used to work for the slimes of India. Information is pukka. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > Meanwhile try to get a story posted on slashdot. > > > in the days of sincere and professional journalism, > newspapers and magazines would get their journalists to get on the > phone, and/or chase down legal experts, and industry experts, to get a > multi-dimensional, unbiased, investigative report, with citations, > references, documentation, and basically, hard-nosed journalism > at-work. > > Express Computer, LinuxForYou, PCQuest, DataQuest, PCWorld, Chip, Digit > The Hindu, Times of India, Hindustan Times, Economic Times... > > i *wonder* who among them understand the news-worthiness of this > story, and appreciate the due-diligence and persistence required to > handle this story? > > freedom of the press > is not too different > from freedom in software. > > or is Lenovo or microsoft or more important as an advertiser? > > Its the official policy of most major newpapers/magazines not to post anything against advertisers. So unless there is a major court case and convictions etc., the story will not be published. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest
> > > > IANAL, TINLA. > > Ack. > > -- Manish > > > IANAL, but from whatever I have seen from the Europe case, and MRTPCs notices served to companies, you do not have a case in consumer court at all. A vendor has the right to sell bundled stuff. For example Big Bazaar can sell rice bundled with washing powder. you cannot refuse washing powder and claim refund. however, if Big Bazaar was selling rice with washing powder of a certain brand only, and forcing you to sign a usage agreement, then it would become a valid case to MRTPC. I suggest you make a complaint to MRTPC, A MRTPC notice to Lenovo should shake their boots. Meanwhile try to get a story posted on slashdot. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > Hi, > > I have built KDE 3.5.9 from the source on Redhat Enterprise 4 > > machine, since I do not have root access. > > I build xinelib also from scratch using configure;make;make install. > > Then I built amarok and its all working fine, but sometimes I am > > unable to play music as I get that infamous xine error where it > > sometimes cannot access audio drivers. > > Whenever I get this problem I have to restart the sound system in > > KDE. This is very random problem > > How about just disabling the KDE sound system and using ALSA natively? > I've been doing just that for the past 5 years with no issues at all. > > Regards, > > -- Raju > -- I don't have root access. So is this possible. How to do that,. currently the most stable combo I have found is running ESD. Amarok is running fine with that. However if I select ALSA sound system in amarok(engine), xinelib cribs that it cannot initialize drivers. So I am stuck with OSS or ESD. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > Meanwhile I think I am getting a phd in building kde. > > I had to copy the libacl.la to a private dir, change the path to .so > for > > libattr(its in /usr/lib instead of /lib but libattr.la says its in > /lib). > > Then I had to do a sed s:/lib/libattr.la:/private/dir/libattr.la:g on > all > > the kde .la files in my $KDEDIR to build it. > > Redhat enterprise sure comes with some quirckyness. > > All the best! > > Just one question: apart from the fun of it how maintainable is this > setup? Do you document/script each step to be able to repeat later? > That's two questions, oh well. > > -- Manish > \ > Well I don't have a choice since at work I cannot get root access. Otherwise rpm -ivh is the best option I think. But the bright side is that I can choose what to build. As for how maintainable is this setup, for big packages like kde etc., there are actually no issues. The .la problem cropped up just because of the bug in Redhat Enterprise 4. Otherwise on a normal system, building from source is actually not tough at all. I used to have gentoo on my home machine. So if you take care of all dependencies(this is done by going through the docs) its easy work. But building from sources sure takes time, and in the end using the package manager is a better option. but then if you want to go bleeding edge build from sources. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > I build everything from sources. I guess I have to try and look at > > ./configure options. > > Anyways I am amazed that I can easily download rpm and .deb packages > for > > libxine-dev and libxine-dbg individually, but can't do the same for > > tar.gz...?? > > I did look at configure options and tried searching xine-devel as well > for clues with no luck. May be it's because I do not understand xine > architecture. > > Perhaps you could use sources extracted from deb package using > dpkg-deb -x? > I have tried that route once on another package(on my home ubuntu system). Its too much weep. I guess I will head on the freenode and bug the xine channel guys. Normally I have seen that asking on specific IRC channels, you get an answer quickly. Meanwhile I think I am getting a phd in building kde. I had to copy the libacl.la to a private dir, change the path to .so for libattr(its in /usr/lib instead of /lib but libattr.la says its in /lib). Then I had to do a sed s:/lib/libattr.la:/private/dir/libattr.la:g on all the kde .la files in my $KDEDIR to build it. Redhat enterprise sure comes with some quirckyness. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Manish wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > > > > Googling suggested that libxine-dev and libxine-dbg should be > built > > > and this > > > > > will fix this random problem. > > > > > However googling for these 2 libs turned up packages, either > red-hat > > > or > > > > > debian etc.,etc., > > > > > I am unable to find source tar.gz for these libs. > > > > > any idea, where to get source tar.gz for libxine-dev and > libxine-dbg > > > etc., > > > > > > Does this help? > > > http://hg.debian.org/hg/ > > > http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases > > > > > > -- Manish > > > > Nope. > > First link does not have anything, and second link has xine-lib which I > > installed from source. > > I need libxine-dev and libxine-dbg > > Is libxine-dev a part of xinelib? If so, is there any special configure > > option. I didn't find any. > > README in win32 directory of xine-lib-1.2 and > http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#AEN72 seems to suggest that it is. But > then I never built anything this big from sources. I build everything from sources. I guess I have to try and look at ./configure options. Anyways I am amazed that I can easily download rpm and .deb packages for libxine-dev and libxine-dbg individually, but can't do the same for tar.gz...?? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Tanveer Singh wrote: > > > Googling suggested that libxine-dev and libxine-dbg should be built > and this > > > will fix this random problem. > > > However googling for these 2 libs turned up packages, either red-hat > or > > > debian etc.,etc., > > > I am unable to find source tar.gz for these libs. > > > any idea, where to get source tar.gz for libxine-dev and libxine-dbg > etc., > > Does this help? > http://hg.debian.org/hg/ > http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases > > -- Manish Nope. First link does not have anything, and second link has xine-lib which I installed from source. I need libxine-dev and libxine-dbg Is libxine-dev a part of xinelib? If so, is there any special configure option. I didn't find any. Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Where do I get tar.gz for these libraries
Hi, I have built KDE 3.5.9 from the source on Redhat Enterprise 4 machine, since I do not have root access. I build xinelib also from scratch using configure;make;make install. Then I built amarok and its all working fine, but sometimes I am unable to play music as I get that infamous xine error where it sometimes cannot access audio drivers. Whenever I get this problem I have to restart the sound system in KDE. This is very random problem Googling suggested that libxine-dev and libxine-dbg should be built and this will fix this random problem. However googling for these 2 libs turned up packages, either red-hat or debian etc.,etc., I am unable to find source tar.gz for these libs. any idea, where to get source tar.gz for libxine-dev and libxine-dbg etc., Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux for the geek gods?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Pratul Kalia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently there was a thread about Mandriva being an easy to use, > beginner distro. And, I remember "lawgon" writing its not much used by > geeks, as it isn't hack friendly? :D > In response, let me ask the list, what distros do you recommend for > geeks then? Someone who likes to get his hands dirty, and feels happy > to do so? What should he/she use? > > I don't think I would want a distro that has stupid support, > incomplete repos etc, because that's nice for hackers? (Yeah, he will > have to solve 12 problems just to boot, and compile everything from > source, lol) > > > Suggestions? > Pratul No suggestions. Only one option GENTOO :D Everything else is fake. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > On 02-May-08, at 6:40 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: > > > > > Yes, yes, we all know how to judiciously edit a quote so it seems > > > to be > > > saying something other than the original intended meaning and then > > > reply to the distorted meaning! > > > > > > However, I'm sure you'll continue asserting that Plone is > > > ``hackproof'' > > > despite all the available evidence, so no more on this thread from me. > > > > interesting how people on the losing side of an argument start > > getting personal ... no more from me also > > Err.. losing side? How come? > > BTW, I do not care who `wins' but I am curious how you arrived at this > conclusion. See if you both were running windows there would be no argument. Moral of the story. Linux is responsible for rising crime rate in Delhi. Now guys please don't kill each other, the police already has their hands full. I know my blabbering did not make any sense, but then even both of your blabbering is not making any sense either. >From whatever I know about software, nothing is hackproof. As for more secure or less secure, any software is as secure as the last vunerability. And yes plone is more hackproof than drupal, but I don't really buy the argument that its the most hackproof among all CMS. But if you keep your drupal installation patched, you will be safe. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] suggest a CMS
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:07 AM, narendra sisodiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ This website will help you out * > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Mayank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:57 AM, narendra sisodiya < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There is no need of think on this topic, > > > Drupal is good for community oriented website -- I strongly suggest > > Drupal > > > for institute purpose over Joomla > > > here is a comparison chat -- this might help you in some sense,, > > > > > > > > > http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/joomla-and-drupal-%11-which-one-is-right-for-you?/ > > > I too suggest drupal. Drupal out of the box is more difficult and does not look as good has joomla, but room for expansion is much more, and the content organization is more structured. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] , Build your vocab (word power)-Get emails daily Fr.ee
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 29-Apr-08, at 2:07 AM, narendra sisodiya wrote: > > > It is asking for email & password (of yahoo or gmail ) at second > > stage to > > advertise , :( VERY BAD > > why are you replying to spam? > > SO that he can get free V14GRA :D ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Delete thousands of folders and files
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Vikas Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Don't have root access, so I have to improvise. > > The fastest solution which I have discovered till now is Konqueror. > > Would mv to .Trash be as fast? Deleting a file/directory on nautilus > moves it the trash bin. I do not know what a delete on konqueror > does. But there has to be a command line method at least as fast as a > gui. In Konquerer you have seprate buttons for move to trash and Delete. As for .Trash, all this is on a separate NFS, so mv won't be fast too. However mv on the same filesystem is instant. SO thats why I do a mv to somedir.old, and start deleting it, and carry on with my other work. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Delete thousands of folders and files
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tanveer Singh wrote:
> > Currently I do this
> > mv somedir somedir.old
> > find somedir.old -name "*" -exec rm -rf {} \;
> > I was hoping for some "quick delete" kind of stuff.
>
> What filesystem is this on ? if its ext3 you can change your drive cache
> policy, disable index's, disable time updates etc ( there must be a few
> dozen tweaks that most distro's put in with new ext3's that could slow
> you down a bit )..
>
> Also, you might want to think about what you doing here... the find
> with hit a directory and never return till everything under
> there is done. so perhaps start with a director really deep and work
> your way up, if you dont want to hit i/o on the machine too hard
>
> --
> Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't have root access, so I have to improvise.
The fastest solution which I have discovered till now is Konqueror.
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[ilugd] Fwd: Delete thousands of folders and files
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a directory called "somedir"
> > Inside this directory there are thousands of subdirectories(20,000+)
> > and even more number of small files(100,000+)
> > If I do a \rm -rf somedir, it takes hours.
> > Is there a way to quickly delete this directory.
> > Currently I use Konqueror and it does the job more quickly, but still
> > its pretty slow.
>
> 1) You can run the process in the background so that you can still do
> other work.
> OR
> 2) use the --directory option which will unlink the directory even if
> it's non empty. But in this case the system will recursively unlink
> all the files the next time you run fsck and you'll have to wait a
> long time then.
>
> Basically if you want to do something NOW which expects the directory
> to not be there, go with option 2. Else stick to the usual option 1.
>
> -- Anupam
Currently I do this
mv somedir somedir.old
find somedir.old -name "*" -exec rm -rf {} \;
I was hoping for some "quick delete" kind of stuff.
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[ilugd] Delete thousands of folders and files
I have a directory called "somedir" Inside this directory there are thousands of subdirectories(20,000+) and even more number of small files(100,000+) If I do a \rm -rf somedir, it takes hours. Is there a way to quickly delete this directory. Currently I use Konqueror and it does the job more quickly, but still its pretty slow. regards Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] plz unsubscribe me from mailing list
On Feb 4, 2008 3:16 PM, mrityu singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its unbearable plz unsubscribe me from mailing list i did not expected such > things from it LOL, what did you expect? Free penguin Pr0n? :p ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] best MTA for an ISP
On Nov 13, 2007 3:03 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 13-Nov-07, at 1:32 PM, मनीष wrote: > > >> this I will be more thankful if you will put up your opinion on my > >> queries. > >> > > > > What Kenneth meant, I am sure, was that you would be more successful > > _in getting your queries answered_. You got him wrong. > > actually he got me right. If I have learnt only one thing in my > interactions on international foss mailing lists, it is the > importance of accuracy and precision in language. Look at the replies > given in lists by core developers of practically any project. They > use full sentences, carefully crafted and precise. They devote > paragraphs to answers where I have been in the habit of using > incomplete phrases. They use capitals in the places where capitals > should be used - I and not i. I believe this reflects the accuracy > and precision of the language they use in coding. And in commenting > code. Laziness is an important characteristic of a good programmer - > but that is creative laziness - the willingness to do a huge amount > of work to avoid writing an extra line of code. The laziness behind > using 'u' instead of 'you' is not that creative laziness - it is > sloppiness, which manifests itself in innumerable typos in code. The > same sloppiness and disregard of the rules of language that manifests > itself in sms-speak, will manifest itself in the quality of code that > person produces. And if a person respects language and takes pride in > using it with accuracy and precision - that will reflect in his code. > And he will also get his queries promptly attended to ... Very well said. As one of the moderators of a large community, I get so many messages asking "Why don't you allow sms lingo, etc., etc.,". Sometimes I get "y dnt u llow sms. i fin dis ful eng tipi tuff" I wish people understood the importance of good language in written communication. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] backing up large weekly data
On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: > > dear all, > > > > what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? > [...] > > Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of > 8-10 months of storage. If you really care for the data, buy two, and > make a software RAID array out of them. Splurge on another Rs. 1.5K > for a good USB/IDE interface, and you have instant access to the > stored data. > > Regards, > Gora Isnt something like Amazon S3 more reliable, if the data is critical. Its auotmatic using shell scripts and cron jobs. Cost for such data would come to around 15$/month if your total storage online is around 60GB Thats around 600rs/month or around 7200/year which is the cost of a 500GB HDD and iits very very reliable. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Broadband Connection
On 6/28/07, vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! Parijat, > Welcome to delhi dude... > > --- Parijat Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am planning to install broadband (yep, there still > > are people who > > don't have broadband at home) and am wondering which > > ISP provides the > > best service. I also need to setup WiFi at home. Do > > these > > service-providers help set that up too? > > > > Kindly advise. I am a WIFI user(since my router went bust few days back, its rather like I was a user). I have Airtel 999 256kbps unlimited connection, which defaults to 512kbps at night. They gave me a modem(with ethernet port) which I used to connect to my Netgear router and then surf the web on my laptop. I also have experience with BSNL(I am in noida, so no MTNL). BSNL exchange was 500mts away from my house so I could go there and literaly force or 'entice' the linemen to come when there was a problem. After airtel I need to call just their support, and within 24 hours somebody is ready to come to my doorstep. As for router WRT54G is not good but GL is good as are GS etc., Since all you get is max 512kbs its immaterial whether the router does 54Mbps or 5Mbps. Buy the cheapest you can get. My router fried because the UP state electricity board decided to compensate for all the power cuts by giving 350 Volts. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ILUGD functioning [WAS: Re: The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007]
On 2/9/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 09-Feb-07, at 10:42 AM, vivek khurana wrote: > > > Anupam, KENNETH, Gora, Sriram, Anant, Mahesh T. Pai, > > Vivek Khurana > > Sab log kyu bandwidth kha rahe ho? > > Why are you wasting bandwidth and web space on > > useless discussion. > > not useless - the only useless thing here is your post Your inter-personnel skills never cease to amaze me :p Make that 2 useless posts now :D ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Members of the Community > > I regret the delay in posting our 'side of the story' w.r.t. Microsoft at > LinuxAsia 07. Here's our attempt... > The event needed money and they were paying lots. Call a spade a spade. If they weren't paying this huge mail wouldn't have been there, right? M$ ideology is exactly opposite of Linux ideology, so its like Smirnoff sponsoring the Alcoholics Anonymous meet. My 2p regards Tanveer Singh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] performance of tata indicom data card?
On 1/11/07, Anurag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sometime on Thursday 11 January 2007 15:38, G Karunakar said: > > what speeds say inside a building (where say mobile signal is half > > strength?).. > > well, the speeds drop dramatically deep inside buildings, from slow to no > signal depending on distance from tower and all that. > > > they have a cheaper option of plug-2-surf, basically a CDMA > > usb modem.. donno how well that would work.. I was thinking to opt for > usb > > option than the card... could hav my custom knoppix & use on any > > laptop/pc.. dont remain tied to requiring laptop. > > sounds like a good idea. A reliance phone costs 1100rs for the basic model and I get around 80kbps with reliance phones connected via cable(150rs) or Bluetooth. I guess USB mdoem is expensive at around 5000rs. You could try that route too regards Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] WRT54GL
On 1/8/07, विवेक ऐय्यर விவேக் ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/8/07, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 19:55 -0800, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote: > > [...] > > > > Sounds great. What is the ball-park cost? I was considering buying a > > wireless router. > > > Cost about 4K in delhi . > cheers > Vivek Isn't WRT54GS the better option. Its WRT54GL + Speedbooster tech, linux based but better performance. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Linux friendly laptop(USB) TV tuner
I am going to purchase a USB TV tuner for my Laptop from Nehru Place, I am wondering which brands do they offer and will they work with Linux? Dont want to pick up a windows only brand. Pinnacle Internal TV tuner card works on linux, but could not find much about brands like Gemini etc., which are sold in Nehru place in this category(USB TV Tuner). thanks Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Suggest the best link for perl Scripting
On 5/16/06, Manish Popli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All > > well i m totaly new in perl Scripting and i want to use it in my Unix > Environment. > welcome for ur suggestion for the best way (Doc ) to start it. > > Though i have rich Ex. in Unix administrationbut I m biggner in perl > scripting. Though nothing beats the books(Orielly and WROX), http://www.perlmonks.orgis a good place to start. You can also visit cpan.perl.org etc., ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] replicating a directory structure with links to all the files at origin
On 5/14/06, Sharad Birmiwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'm a little lost about what you wasnt to do myself but lndir might help > (comes with x.org, i think!). > > creates directory structure like some specified directory and creates > symlinks in them to all the files. > Exactly what ?I need! Since the original database is all accessible on the same server(its a NFS dir), each user can probably use it to create symlinks ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] replicating a directory structure with links to all the files at origin
Hi, We have a testcases directory structure. It consists of lots of directories and files. Since lots of people work on those files, everybody right now copies all the files and directories to own home dir and then works with that,. The files in the dir structure are never created but the softwares run generate some files etc., with are unique to the owner. So what we want is somehow create the directory structure in the users home dir. This will be without any files and only soft links to original files will be there. So the person can run his testcases and they will work like normal testcases as links to files are there. This way all users wont need to use so much disk space. For example the original directory strucure is something like parent | dir1 dir2 dir3file1 file2 file3 | | dir11 dir12 dir21 dir 22 file21 | and so on. One way of doing this was 1. Use find comand in a script with the option -d. and create directories in the users home 2. Use find command in script with -f option and then create soft links. this seems like a kludgy way, and would require some advanced scripting. Any other way you people can suggest. One thing to note here that the directory structure should be replicated as it is at the source because the programs look for paths relative to a BASEDIR which each user can set according to his/her wishes. Having such an arrangement will make things good as we will not waste disk space. About the job of creating directories, its not very complicated. I just have to 1. cd to the parent dir 2. Use find command and get all dirs in a file 3. append makedir -p and to starting, cd to the target place and create dirs the file part is a little tougher because now have to work with ln. So Any other way you guys can suggest? Maybe linux has an utility which can do this in one go, that would be great! thanks Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] using nested exec in find command
On 4/21/06, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am using the find command like this
> >
> > find -name "somaname" -exec find {} -name "somefile" \;
> > This works fine.
> [...]
>
> Maybe it would help if you explained what you are trying to achieve.
> This seems incredibly convoluted, and a nightmare for anyone who has
> to maintain your code in the future. Why not store the results of the
> first find command in a temporary variable?
>
No code to maintain. I am using it on command line. And the code is does not
get convulated with the solution mentioned. Anybody who can write perl can
understand this code :)
Tsk
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[ilugd] using nested exec in find command
Hi,
I am using the find command like this
find -name "somaname" -exec find {} -name "somefile" \;
This works fine. Now I want to add another exec to the seond find
i.e.
find -name "somaname" -exec find {} -name "somefile" -exec grep
"some string" {} \;
But it does not work
I tried using \; \; in the end too. Any help?
Tanveer
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[ilugd] OT: Nehru place dealers
hi, I am planning to buy a HDD casing with card reader(Enables direct CF card to HDD transfer) and Laptop hard disk from Nehru Place. Any advice about which shops are more "Trustworthy"? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why > shouldnot 32 bit stuff run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any > pointers or a correct google query it will be great :) > Regards > Tushar > Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 3/8/06, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. > > softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed > > Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of > > softwares. > > i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. > > I suggest you get better friends... ;-) > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash > on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got > around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I > will admit it does not work very well...yet! > Flash is not that much of a problem. I run firefox in 32bit mode so I can use all plugins. Rest everything runs 64bit. But then I use a more 64bit friendly distro(gentoo). Since precompiled 64bit applications are rare, gentoo flow works fine. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] usb mounting
On 3/5/06, Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in infinite wisdom Shiv spoke thus On 03/05/2006 06:58 PM: > > > hi, > > top-posting is one thing > > however, as far as the "non-english" part goes, I think its time we > > climb outta our colonial slumber and encourage people to use native > > language. "roman" hindi like the one ankit was trying to use is quite > > ok. The indian army uses it to a large extent (part of the colonial > legacy). > > I get a lot of emails everyday (150-200 would be a close figure). As > such, I can say with confidence that people find it easier to read > emails that are written in plain english, i.e. without using sms lingo > or trying to write roman hinglish. As far as the part about colonial > legacy goes, yes, I find it easier to read english rather than hindi. > If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no problems > in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email. > About the native language stuff, people here have lots of native languages. So people suggesting - Get out of colonial hangup should write their mails in all 15 languages specified in the constitution so as mails are understood by all of us. The orignal poster can take the lead and start sending out his mails in 15 languages :D ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] utility for measuring the total downloads
On 2/2/06, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Abhinav Jain wrote: > > > Is there any utility on linux/win which can measure the total download , > I > > have an ISP (BSNL/Tata Indicom) which allows me to download only 500MB > > (according to some plan) and I need to keep a check on the download I > have > > made. > > vnstat ? > I use vnstat and have now found it to be accurate for tx. Is it true generally or something wrong with my settings? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Connecting to VPN in office
On 1/13/06, Nishant Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Tanveer, > > > How to do it in Linux. Is there a ready VPN client > > You can use vpnc. The only issue is that re-keying is > not supported. So, your VPN is connected for 8 hrs at > a stretch and then you will have to reconnect it. > > regards, > Nishant > I tried using VPNC. But got confised at what all to give. In windows I just give a username and password. I trid kvpnc also and in the connection type I filled in PPTP. But apart from my company server IP it also has network etc., fields which are not there when I configure connection for windows. Any HOWTO available for the same? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Connecting to VPN in office
Hi, Our office has a VPN IP address. In windows I clicked on create a new connection tab, gave the IP and created connection. Just have to give my username and password. How to do it in Linux. Is there a ready VPN client by which I can just give that IP address and username and password and be on the office network? Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux and Laptops -- Help required
On 1/12/06, Saurabh Nanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm planning to purchase a laptop, which would be my new Linux box. I have > a > lot of questions which I am listing below. It would be great if anyone > could > help me with them - > > o I read some articles about Linux running into troubles with Intel > Centrino > based laptops -- especially the WLAN card. Can someone give me a first > hand > account? > o Other factors remaining the same, there's a difference of about Rs 10k > between Celeron-M and Centrino based laptops. Is the gain in performance > worth the cost? > o AMD Sempron Mobile or Celerom-M? > o AMD Turion-64 or Centrino? > o Other than the Acer Aspire series, are there any AMD based laptops > available in India? > o From where can one get Lenovo R-Series in India? I couldn't find them on > the website. > o Acer, Compaq, Zenith, Lenovo, Dell -- any first hand experiences wrt > reliability, after-sales support, etc? > o Any specific recommendations or reviews of the laptop(s) that you have > purchased > Depends on your budget. The AMD turion is the most value for money and 64bit performance is great. I think in india all you will get is Acer if you want AMD. Sony/lenovo etc., do not sell AMD based notebooks in India region ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Script for Interrupted power supply
> > > > > > I can't say anything about ur script.But if you r using APC ups you can > > use > > apcsd software for monitoring them. > I have a APC ups with USB. So I am wondering wether I can use it in linux. Currently the daemon starts but cant talk to the UPS inspite of me following the HOWTO. Any tips of pointers? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] KDE rules
On 1/2/06, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Taj" == Sirtaj Singh Kang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Taj> [snip] > >> I decided to just sneer at those who keep telling me how I > >> should listen to music rather than either (a) solving the > >> problem or (b) telling me it can't be done. Damn all > >> user-interface-design gurus who, instead of adding a feature > >> the user wants, tell the user how s/he should ideally be doing > >> what s/he wants to do! > >> > >> Here's your share: *sneer* ;) > > Taj> It's like sneering at people who tell you that cigarettes and > Taj> coca cola will kill you. Sooner or later you just have to > Taj> face up to the fact that your lifestyle is at best > Taj> inefficient, and at worst, just plain stark raving WRONG. > > That was the worst analogy it has been my misfortune to stumble across > in the Happy New Year. > You very well deserved that :D. And yes it can't be done. I suggest you tell the amarok folks, put in a feature request(Most kde fellows are open to feature requests) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] KDE rules
On 1/1/06, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Raj" == Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Raj> in infinite wisdom nipra spoke thus On 01/01/2006 04:44 PM: > >> Hi, No flame war intended(though I'll not mind one ;-). Just > >> found a good article on KDE and why it rules. > >> > >> http://www.terra.es/personal/diegocg/kde/ > > Raj> I agree with his assessment of amaroK. It simply rocks. I > Raj> tried it out today and I am hooked to it. Much better than > Raj> rhythmbox > > I'd switch to amarok from XMMS, except I can't find a balance control > anywhere. Since my speakers are at not both at the same distance from > where I sit, that's absolutely essential for me. And no thanks, I > don't need the volume control in my mixer :) > > dont be such an old monk ;), use kmixer for your balance needs :D And if you look at the K3B intergration with amarok(CD burning etc.,) along with other features, this is a small disadvantage! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10
On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>>>> "Tanveer" == Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tanveer> On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hope this helps, feedback welcome. > > Tanveer> I guess for a newbie, rather than going into bridge mode > Tanveer> and using pppoe client on system, we can simply put the > Tanveer> comp in ethernet mode and let the router do the > Tanveer> pppoe. Using rp-pppoe etc., runs into issues many times. > > You're right, at least about the comparative complexity of using PPPoE > vs routing modes. However, using PPPoE (on the host) does have the > following advantages: > > 1. You get a routable IP and, if you really want, can expose services > to your friends on the Internet. For instance, you can put up files > for downloading on your Apache web server and give people the IP to > download them from temporarily. Agreed, but I think by the time he gets to this level, he can go the pppoe way 2. You control the connection. I use the 590NU (night unlimited) > plan, where MTNL requires me to restart the connection at midnight and > 0800. If I use the router mode, I have to physically switch the 502T > off and on. OTOH, with host PPPoE mode I have a simple cron entry > that does the switching (poff; pon) automagically at 00:05 and 07:58, > with me blissfully asleep. You can reboot the modem by a script too! Check out vinuthomas.com 3. In general, i prefer to have control over my connections rather > than some piece of hardware about which I know next to nothing. To > take an example, in host PPPoE mode, the 502T is inaccessible from the > Internet, and people cannot exploit any weaknesses in it. In router > mode, however, the 502T is exposed to the 'net and potentially > vulnerable to exploits. No its not. All you have to do is block all connections from outside world. Simple. then computers only on the ethernet side can connect. Infact you have a hardware firewall router sitting, which is more powerful than anything else :D regards Tanveer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D-Link 502-T with Ubuntu 5.10
On 12/2/05, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hope this helps, feedback welcome. > > I guess for a newbie, rather than going into bridge mode and using pppoe client on system, we can simply put the comp in ethernet mode and let the router do the pppoe. Using rp-pppoe etc., runs into issues many times. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
