Re: [efloraofindia:28929] Fwd: ¿ Thyrocarpus glochi diatus ?

2010-03-06 Thread Aparna Watve
Dear All,
I took time to answer this, because in the past I have indicated that
the identification of the genus Paracaryopsis should not be done
without fruit characters together with flowers and good literature
should be checked. (thrice if I remember correctly)
Any way, I troubled Dr. Swapna, to write me the key and description
from Cooke's Bombay Presidency flora, which acc to me is the most
complete.
OK So the key to Paracaryopsis (Paracaryum in old literature including
Cooke)species is :

1. Nutlets glochidiate
2. Stem red, flwrs pale blue with a darker centre  P. coelestinum
2. Stem green, flowers dark blue uniform in colour without a dark
centre .. P. malabaricum

1. Nutlets NOT glochidiate -- P. lambertianum ( it was
separated at times as genus Mattiastrum, but not by recent ideas)

Description of fruit of P. lambertianum: Nutlets usually 2, (2 others
suppressed) reaching 1/2 by 7/16 in, broadly ovate, flattened, not
glochidiate on the margins or faces. margin entire, flat, extending in
the same plane as the face or very slightly curved upwards.


As you can see from the key, the plant in picture is certainly not
Paracaryopsis lambertiana, as the glochidiate margin of fruit is so
nicely seen.
P. lambertianum is strikingly different in this character although
matching flowers of Paracaryopsis coelestinum. The key in the Flora of
Maharashtra dicot 2 is WRONG, but the description is correct, although
very sketchy. I have seen this species and its non glochidiate winged
fruits in field (Gaganbavda ghat, Kolhapur and Kori Fort, near
Ambavane/Lonavala) and also checked in herbarium of BSI Pune circle.

SO the plant in picture is not Paracaryopsis lambertiana.
As for what it is, I cannot see the flowers clearly, a back view is
not useful at all, and the size appears smaller than Paracaryopsis,
but size does not matter so much. It can very well be a small poorly
nourished plant of P. coelestinum as it cannot be P. lambertianum or
P. malabaricum. But perhaps one should also characters of Cynoglossum,
a genus fairly close in general look of Paracaryopsis although the
fruits of Paracaryopsis are fairly different than Cynoglossum.
If I visit Pune, I will try to get a picture from herbarium and
circulate the fruit picture so that there is no misidentification in
future.
Web also has some new paper by R. Mill on this genus, but I have not
been able to access it.

Regards,
Aparna


On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dinesh ji
 It must be the later phase of the plant i.e. Between flowering and fruiting.
 So the classic colours of the flowers are not visible here. Also the full
 fledged fruits are probably yet to to get developed. Many plants in such
 phases get us bolded out.
 Thanks for the interesting thread.
 Satish phadke

 On 2 March 2010 09:23, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends, more than convinced that this plant must be the Lambert's
 paracaryopsis,  Paracaryopsis lambertiana ... locally known as हिरवी
 निसुर्डी hirvi nisurdi
 Thank you very much, dear Prashant.
 Regards.




 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 ... a very good lead, dear Prashant.
 Was thinking about it, but the size beats me ..
 This may indeed turn out to be P. lambertiana.

 Regards.




 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Dinesh,
 Doesn't it looks like some Paracaryopsis sp.  (Could as well be
 Paracaryopsis lambertiana). Just a wild guess..
 best wishes
 Prashant

 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear friends,

 Inadvertently posted the query to group's moderators.
 Sorry for the mess.

 Here is Gurcharan ji's response:

 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

 I tried it hard to fix, the outside rim with seems to be unique. To me
 it does not match with:

 http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.plantphoto.cn/gallery/photo/2009/6/12651395401250a.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu.aspx%3Fid%3D242808usg=__9HokoemLXI3AtK5YyS4gcYdE8ZA=h=525w=700sz=86hl=enstart=7sig2=uJexvTgZuRz5d2Jyy9w9hQitbs=1tbnid=bvh8jXuIthze4M:tbnh=105tbnw=140prev=/images%3Fq%3DThyrocarpus%2Bglochidiatus%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1ei=Pn-LS4vOJoewrAeGi4GPCg
 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x


 Many thanks Gurcharan ji for giving a good lead.
 Expecting more comment(s) ... hoping to get the ID.

 Regards.





 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM
 Subject: ¿ Thyrocarpus glochidiatus ?
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 Dear friends,

 Had sent this query in a personal mail to Isaac Kehimkar ji, who
 forwarded it to then IndianTreePix.
 ... thus this ID request is incidently my first query !!!

 Garg ji had resurfaced it once ... did not get any response, possibly
 for want of details.

 Two 

[efloraofindia:28930] Re: [indiantreepix:25280] Cyanotis species for ID-201209-RK-2

2010-03-06 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
please check it for Cyanotis arachnoidea Clarke, is a species grows mostly
some what  higher altitude.
kunhikannan

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 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

 Earlier relevant feedback:

 “Hello

 It *must be an Cyanotis burmanniana Wight.
 *If u have original image of this species then please send it to me. It'll
 be
 helpful for my research work.
 Basically sometimes this species is treat as a *Cyanotis cristata  *but you
 see this plant carefully then u get the variation in bet. these two
 species.” from Mayur Nandikar ji.



 “*Cyanotis cristata..?
 *- A gueass..” from Parjanya ji.



 “Yes* it is Cyanotis cristata (L.) D. Don*.” from satish Pardeshi ji.


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  Request ID of this species.On rock surface-Kallipaara
 Hill,Thattekad,Kerala.Pic taken 07-12-09.
 Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:28931] Re: [indiantreepix:25347] Wild Flower for ID-211209-RK-3

2010-03-06 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
Hello
*Look likes* *Commelina diffusa* from Mayur Nandikar ji.

On 5 March 2010 18:11, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 Earlier relevant feedback:
 “Perhaps
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commelina_benghalensis”



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  Commelina species?Please provide ID.Pic taken on 07-12-09 at
 Thattekad,Kerala.
 Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:28932] Re: [indiantreepix:25410] Wild flower for ID

2010-03-06 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
Hello
This one is Murdannia simplex from Mayur Nandikar ji.

On 5 March 2010 18:08, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

 Earlier relevant feedback:

 “...A species of Murdannia  of Commelinaceae..
 *May be  Murdannia simplex...
   ORM. maculeata...”* from Parjanya ji.



 “*Checkout with Murdannia edulis*

 Regards
 Satish Pardeshi”


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  An interesting find!Less than a cm wide.Only a few clumps under
 trees.1' high.Pale violet.Pic taken-11.22 am on 09-12-09 at Thattekad
 estates,Kerala close to R. Periyar bank.
 Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:28933] Re: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?

2010-03-06 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
*I think the first picture is of Nilgirianthus reticulatus*. Regds, Regds,
Shrikant

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 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 Earlier relevant feedback:
 “... *looks like Strobilanthes ixiocephalus (syn.: Thelepaepale
 ixiocephala, T. ixiocephalus).*.. commonly known as: sky blue karvy •
 Marathi: बिट कारवी bit karvi, पातरी patri, वायटी waiti • Kannada: ಪಿಠ ಕಾರವೀ
 pit-karvi • Konkani: पिट कारवी pit karvi” from Dinesh ji.

 “I feel that *the species in first image is different and appears to be
 Pleocaulus ritchie.
 *
 best regards

 Adittya Dharap”

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 Subject: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?
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  Attaching few shrubs seen during the Mahabaleshwar trip 8Nov 2009.
 Does it look like some Karvi(Strobilanthes or Carvia) species?
 Pictures taken at different locations and during diff times of the day.
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[efloraofindia:28935] Re: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Shrikant Ji,
Please provide me with taxonomic characters of *Nilgirianthus
reticulatus*and Why are you Sir suggesting this specific epithet? I
will be helpful if
you kind provide the informations which immensely help in the rejuvenation
of my knowledge.

Regards
Tanay

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply:
 *I think the first picture is of Nilgirianthus reticulatus*. Regds,
 Regds, Shrikant

   On 5 March 2010 18:13, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 Earlier relevant feedback:
 “... *looks like Strobilanthes ixiocephalus (syn.: Thelepaepale
 ixiocephala, T. ixiocephalus).*.. commonly known as: sky blue karvy •
 Marathi: बिट कारवी bit karvi, पातरी patri, वायटी waiti • Kannada: ಪಿಠ ಕಾರವೀ
 pit-karvi • Konkani: पिट कारवी pit karvi” from Dinesh ji.

 “I feel that *the species in first image is different and appears to be
 Pleocaulus ritchie.
 *
 best regards

 Adittya Dharap”

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 Subject: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?
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  Attaching few shrubs seen during the Mahabaleshwar trip 8Nov 2009.
 Does it look like some Karvi(Strobilanthes or Carvia) species?
 Pictures taken at different locations and during diff times of the day.
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Re: [efloraofindia:28939] Polypogon monspeliensis from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread Satish Phadke
That's great to see this Polygonaceae member.Thanks for sharing.
Dr Phadke

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 Polypogon monspeliensis (L.) Desf. from Delhi

 * *

 * *

 *Date/Time-*

 *March 6, 2-10, 10.30 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild, in flower beds and borders of fields*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Wild annual herb, freely tillering*

 *Height/Length-*

 * upto 20 cm in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Linear, sheath broader, loose, ligule linear*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Green, Loose, somewhat lobed spike of spikelets, 5-7 cm long *

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *small, green with long silvery hairs*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Caryopsis*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *No*

 *
 *



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Re: [efloraofindia:28941] Polypogon monspeliensis from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Satish ji
Poaceae (gramineae) not Polygonaceae


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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's great to see this Polygonaceae member.Thanks for sharing.
 Dr Phadke

 On 6 March 2010 17:38, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Polypogon monspeliensis (L.) Desf. from Delhi

 * *

 * *

 *Date/Time-*

 *March 6, 2-10, 10.30 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild, in flower beds and borders of fields*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Wild annual herb, freely tillering*

 *Height/Length-*

 * upto 20 cm in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Linear, sheath broader, loose, ligule linear*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Green, Loose, somewhat lobed spike of spikelets, 5-7 cm long *

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *small, green with long silvery hairs*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Caryopsis*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *No*

 *
 *



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Re: [efloraofindia:28942] Polypogon monspeliensis from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread Satish Phadke
ok. ok. Sorry that was my mistake. I am totally ignorant about Poaceae and
have not yet dared to observe them. Anyway sometime I might get attracted to
the family.
Dr Phadke

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 Satish ji
 Poaceae (gramineae) not Polygonaceae


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 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's great to see this Polygonaceae member.Thanks for sharing.
 Dr Phadke

 On 6 March 2010 17:38, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Polypogon monspeliensis (L.) Desf. from Delhi

 * *

 * *

 *Date/Time-*

 *March 6, 2-10, 10.30 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild, in flower beds and borders of fields*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Wild annual herb, freely tillering*

 *Height/Length-*

 * upto 20 cm in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Linear, sheath broader, loose, ligule linear*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Green, Loose, somewhat lobed spike of spikelets, 5-7 cm long *

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *small, green with long silvery hairs*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Caryopsis*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *No*

 *
 *



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Re: [efloraofindia:28943] Sadadhutura

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Sibdas ji
The two species can be conclusively differentiated from fruits and seeds.
The capsules of D. ferox are on erect stalks, lower spines are much shorter,
upper longer, seeds black or grey. In D. inoxia capsules are on recurved
stalks, spines almost equally longer, seeds yellow or brown. Could you
please locate plant with fruits?

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On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, sibdas ghosh sibdasgh...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is difficult to distinguish between the two sp. from Photos, but D.
 ferox is an introduced sp., unlikely to be found in a remote village of
 Bengal.


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 May you please check with*  Datura ferox  *once again.?

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 Sibdas ji
 I hope you are right



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 It is sadaadhutura (white Dhutura) - Datura metel (D. alba). I hope
 the i.d. is correct. From Pingla , Midnapore Jan '10

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Re: [efloraofindia:28944] Pennisetum ciliare from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
THANK YOU SIR FOR TAKING THE EFFORTS TO INCREASE THE POACEAE DATABASE IN
THIS GROUP.

REGARDS,
TANAY

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 Pennisetum ciliare (L) Link. (syn: Cenchrus ciliaris L. from Delhi

  * *

 * *

 *Date/Time*

 *March 6, 2010, 10 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-*
 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

  *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild in dry waste places, rocky areas*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Perennial tufted grass*

 *Height/Length- *

 *up to 60 cm tall*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 *Leanear, sheath covering internode, junction hairy*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Compact spike of spikelets, upto 10 cm long*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *tinged reddish, with basal tuft of long cilia*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Caryopsis*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *
 *

 * *

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Re: [efloraofindia:28945] Fwd: Lamiaceae??

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear All,
I hope this plant is *Scutellaria discolor* var. *discolor .* Please see in
the detailed description of this plant from The eFlora of China {link
provided below}.
*http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=200020300*
**
Regards,
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 Forwarding again for ID...

 earlier feed back...
  1. From Dr Santhosh kumar ji  There is a match of Scutellaria sp?

 2. From Dr Swapna Prabhu ji.. Looks like Scutellaria sp..

 Thanks  best wishes
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 Dear Friends,
 Request for ID. This herb photographed at Munnar..
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Re: [efloraofindia:28946] Polypogon monspeliensis from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Thank you again Sir for sharing another Poaceae member with us. Sir I also
this plant out here in Kolkata but didn't knew the name. You also updated my
database along with the group's.

Regards,
Tanay

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 ok. ok. Sorry that was my mistake. I am totally ignorant about Poaceae and
 have not yet dared to observe them. Anyway sometime I might get attracted to
 the family.
 Dr Phadke


 On 6 March 2010 18:14, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Satish ji
 Poaceae (gramineae) not Polygonaceae


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 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's great to see this Polygonaceae member.Thanks for sharing.
 Dr Phadke

   On 6 March 2010 17:38, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

  Polypogon monspeliensis (L.) Desf. from Delhi

  * *

 * *

 *Date/Time-*

 *March 6, 2-10, 10.30 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild, in flower beds and borders of fields*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Wild annual herb, freely tillering*

 *Height/Length-*

 * upto 20 cm in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Linear, sheath broader, loose, ligule linear*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Green, Loose, somewhat lobed spike of spikelets, 5-7 cm long *

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *small, green with long silvery hairs*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Caryopsis*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *No*

 *
 *



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Re: [efloraofindia:28948] Brugmansia for ID: 060310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Arati ji,
The plant in the attached photo graph is a hybrid *Brugmansia sp* which is
known as  *Brugmansia x candida 'Double White'* (Double White Angel's
Trumpet)

Regards
Tanay

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 *Date/Time* : 24th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters ... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* :
 *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: 5-6 meters ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* : about 6-8 inches ... *Colour* : white,yellow ... *Calyx*: ...
 *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :

 The flowers had a double layer.
 Aarti





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Re: [efloraofindia:28951] Brugmansia for ID: 060310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread Kenneth Greby
 Some sort of double white garden cultivar, likely of B. X candida. 

 There are dozens of cultivars of this group, and I'll leave cultivar ID to an 
expert here.

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Subject: [efloraofindia:28947] Brugmansia for ID: 060310-AK-1





 
 


 
Date/Time : 24th of October, 2008
Location Place : Kodaikanal ... Altitude : 2100 meters ... GPS : 
Habitat : Wild ... Type : 
Plant Habit : Shrub ... Height : 5-6 meters ... Length :  ... 
Leaves Type :  ... Shape :  ... Size : 
Inflorescence Type :  ... Size : 
Flowers Size : about 6-8 inches ... Colour : white,yellow ... Calyx : ... 
Bracts : 
Fruits Type :  ... Shape :  ... Size :  ... Seeds : 

Other Info : 
Fragrance :  ...  Pollinator :  ...  Uses : 

The flowers had a double layer.
Aarti



 

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Re: [efloraofindia:28952] Request for ID:060310-AK-2

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Arati ji,
I am sure identification is correct this plant is indeed *Hypoestes
phyllostachya*,Polka Dot plant.

Regards
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  *Date/Time* : 25th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters ... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
 *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* : do not know ... *Size* : do not know
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* :  ... *Colour* :  ... *Calyx* :  ... *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :


 Please confirm id.Leaves had Pink dots on them.
 Is it Hypoestes phyllostachya or common name Polka Dot Plant?
 Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:28954] Request for ID:060310-AK-2

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Aarti ji
You perhaps know the plant already. A very nice plant.


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  *Date/Time* : 25th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters ... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
 *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* : do not know ... *Size* : do not know
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* :  ... *Colour* :  ... *Calyx* :  ... *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :


 Please confirm id.Leaves had Pink dots on them.
 Is it Hypoestes phyllostachya or common name Polka Dot Plant?
 Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:28955] Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Perhaps woodrose Argyreia nervosa or some other species


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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote:

 HELLO,

  *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *


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Re: [efloraofindia:28956] Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Can it be* Argyreia elliptica*?

Regards
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 Perhaps woodrose Argyreia nervosa or some other species


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 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote:

 HELLO,

   *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *


 Thanx
 --
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 Research Student,
 Department of Botany,
 Shivaji University,
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Re: [efloraofindia:28959] Request for ID: 060310-AK-3

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Dinesh ji
i am missing your fastest finger first.


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 Dear Arati ji ,
 The plant in the attached photo belongs to the gymnospremic genus of 
 *Cryptomeria
 japonica* [Family: Cupressaceae]. Photo shows the fertile braches of the
 genus.
 Regards
 Tanay

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 May be Cryptomeria japonica


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   Date/Time: 24th October,2008.
 Location Place: KodaikanalAltitude: 2100 metersGPS:
 Habitat: Type: Wild
 Plant Habit :TreeHeight:Length:
 Leaves Type:   Shape:   Size:
 Inflorescence Type:   Size:
 Flowers Size:   Colour:   Calyx:   Bracts:
 Fruit type:   Shape:   Size:   seeds:
 Other Information:Fragrance:   Pollinator:   Uses:

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Re: [efloraofindia:28960] Request for ID: 060310-AK-3

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
what is meant by Fastest finger first Sir

Tanay

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dinesh ji
 i am missing your fastest finger first.


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 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:03 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Arati ji ,
 The plant in the attached photo belongs to the gymnospremic genus of 
 *Cryptomeria
 japonica* [Family: Cupressaceae]. Photo shows the fertile braches of the
 genus.
 Regards
 Tanay

   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 May be Cryptomeria japonica


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 Retired  Associate Professor
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 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


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   Date/Time: 24th October,2008.
 Location Place: KodaikanalAltitude: 2100 metersGPS:
 Habitat: Type: Wild
 Plant Habit :TreeHeight:Length:
 Leaves Type:   Shape:   Size:
 Inflorescence Type:   Size:
 Flowers Size:   Colour:   Calyx:   Bracts:
 Fruit type:   Shape:   Size:   seeds:
 Other Information:Fragrance:   Pollinator:   Uses:

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Re: [efloraofindia:28962] Fwd: ¿ Thyrocarpus glochi diatus ?

2010-03-06 Thread Dinesh Valke
Many many thanks for providing clarity, Aparna ji.
From your review, for sure, the ID is not *P. lambertianum* or *P.
malabaricum*

The attached photos is all that are available for the ID query ... BUT the
key elements are missing, thus it may not be possible to know the ID to the
species level.
The fruit in the photo appears fairly clear, however not sure whether clear
enough for knowing it to be *Paracaryopsis* OR *Cynoglossum* OR another
grenus.

Regards.







On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Aparna Watve aparnawat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,
 I took time to answer this, because in the past I have indicated that
 the identification of the genus Paracaryopsis should not be done
 without fruit characters together with flowers and good literature
 should be checked. (thrice if I remember correctly)
 Any way, I troubled Dr. Swapna, to write me the key and description
 from Cooke's Bombay Presidency flora, which acc to me is the most
 complete.
 OK So the key to Paracaryopsis (Paracaryum in old literature including
 Cooke)species is :

 1. Nutlets glochidiate
 2. Stem red, flwrs pale blue with a darker centre  P. coelestinum
 2. Stem green, flowers dark blue uniform in colour without a dark
 centre .. P. malabaricum

 1. Nutlets NOT glochidiate -- P. lambertianum ( it was
 separated at times as genus Mattiastrum, but not by recent ideas)

 Description of fruit of P. lambertianum: Nutlets usually 2, (2 others
 suppressed) reaching 1/2 by 7/16 in, broadly ovate, flattened, not
 glochidiate on the margins or faces. margin entire, flat, extending in
 the same plane as the face or very slightly curved upwards.


 As you can see from the key, the plant in picture is certainly not
 Paracaryopsis lambertiana, as the glochidiate margin of fruit is so
 nicely seen.
 P. lambertianum is strikingly different in this character although
 matching flowers of Paracaryopsis coelestinum. The key in the Flora of
 Maharashtra dicot 2 is WRONG, but the description is correct, although
 very sketchy. I have seen this species and its non glochidiate winged
 fruits in field (Gaganbavda ghat, Kolhapur and Kori Fort, near
 Ambavane/Lonavala) and also checked in herbarium of BSI Pune circle.

 SO the plant in picture is not Paracaryopsis lambertiana.
 As for what it is, I cannot see the flowers clearly, a back view is
 not useful at all, and the size appears smaller than Paracaryopsis,
 but size does not matter so much. It can very well be a small poorly
 nourished plant of P. coelestinum as it cannot be P. lambertianum or
 P. malabaricum. But perhaps one should also characters of Cynoglossum,
 a genus fairly close in general look of Paracaryopsis although the
 fruits of Paracaryopsis are fairly different than Cynoglossum.
 If I visit Pune, I will try to get a picture from herbarium and
 circulate the fruit picture so that there is no misidentification in
 future.
 Web also has some new paper by R. Mill on this genus, but I have not
 been able to access it.

 Regards,
 Aparna


 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dinesh ji
  It must be the later phase of the plant i.e. Between flowering and
 fruiting.
  So the classic colours of the flowers are not visible here. Also the full
  fledged fruits are probably yet to to get developed. Many plants in such
  phases get us bolded out.
  Thanks for the interesting thread.
  Satish phadke
 
  On 2 March 2010 09:23, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear friends, more than convinced that this plant must be the Lambert's
  paracaryopsis,  Paracaryopsis lambertiana ... locally known as हिरवी
  निसुर्डी hirvi nisurdi
  Thank you very much, dear Prashant.
  Regards.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  ... a very good lead, dear Prashant.
  Was thinking about it, but the size beats me ..
  This may indeed turn out to be P. lambertiana.
 
  Regards.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear Dinesh,
  Doesn't it looks like some Paracaryopsis sp.  (Could as well be
  Paracaryopsis lambertiana). Just a wild guess..
  best wishes
  Prashant
 
  On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear friends,
 
  Inadvertently posted the query to group's moderators.
  Sorry for the mess.
 
  Here is Gurcharan ji's response:
 
  x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
 
  I tried it hard to fix, the outside rim with seems to be unique. To
 me
  it does not match with:
 
 
 http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.plantphoto.cn/gallery/photo/2009/6/12651395401250a.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu.aspx%3Fid%3D242808usg=__9HokoemLXI3AtK5YyS4gcYdE8ZA=h=525w=700sz=86hl=enstart=7sig2=uJexvTgZuRz5d2Jyy9w9hQitbs=1tbnid=bvh8jXuIthze4M:tbnh=105tbnw=140prev=/images%3Fq%3DThyrocarpus%2Bglochidiatus%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1ei=Pn-LS4vOJoewrAeGi4GPCg

Re: [efloraofindia:28963] A Solanum sp

2010-03-06 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Friends,
I am not very sure now, because since posting my last mail, I have
seen pictures of  ripe fruits that are yellow in colour, but the
fruits I have seen in my farm is of fruits that are red in colour.
We may have to wait a while and study a bit more.
Regards
Yazdy Palia.

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 On the basis of the relevant taxonomic characters discussed by Yazdy Ji 
 Gurcharan Ji we all can come into a positive conclusion that The plant in
 the attached photographs belong to the genus Solanum sp and its specific
 epithet is Solanum viarum. I personally thank all of you for taking the
 tedious effort and well planned techniques to decipher the name of this long
 discussed plant from West Bengal brought into our notice by Mr. Sibdas
 Ghosh.

 THANKS TO ALL

 Regards,
 Tanay Bose.

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the following observations
 The plant can't be Solanum xanthocarpum which has subsequently been named
 as S. surattense and now correctly as S. virginianum, because that plant is
 a small spreading subshrub with leaves not velvety.
 The name S. indicum applied to Indian plants is not valid. Some of Indian
 Plants i.e. S. indicum auct with glabrous fruits is correctly S. anguivi, S.
 indicum L. now correctly known as lasiocarpum has tomentose berries.
    S. verbascifolium L. now correctly known as S. erianthum has unarmed
 stems and leaves.
 I think the toss is between S. viarum and S. anguivi:

  Solanum viarum Dunal in A. de Candolle, Prodr. 13(1): 240. 1852

 Syn: Solanum khasianum C. B. Clarke var. chatterjeeanum Sen Gupta.

 Herbs or subshrubs, erect, 0.5-1(-2) m tall, armed, minutely tomentose
 with many-celled, simple, mostly glandular hairs. Stems and branches terete,
 densely and evenly pubescent with many-celled, simple hairs to 1 mm, armed
 with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with needlelike
 prickles 1-4 mm. Leaves unequal paired; petiole stout 3-7 cm, armed with
 erect, flat straight prickles 0.3-1.8 cm; leaf blade broadly ovate, 6-13 ×
 6-12 cm, with prickles and coarse, many-celled, glandular simple hairs on
 both surfaces, these mixed with sparse, sessile, stellate hairs abaxially,
 base truncate to short hastate, margin 3-5-lobed or -parted; lobes blunt at
 apex. Inflorescences extra-axillary, subfasciculate, 1-5-flowered racemes;
 peduncle obsolete or short. Flowers andromonoecious, only basal ones
 fertile. Pedicel 4-6 mm. Calyx campanulate, ca. 10 × 7 mm, lobes
 oblong-lanceolate, 0.6-1.2 mm, hairy and sometimes prickly abaxially.
 Corolla white or green; lobes lanceolate, ca. 2.5 × 10 mm, pubescent as on
 calyx. Filaments 1-1.5 mm; anthers lanceolate, acuminate, 6-7 mm. Ovary
 puberulent. Style ca. 8 mm, glabrous. Berry pale yellow, globose, 2-3 cm in
 diam. Seeds brown, lenticular, 2-2.8 mm in diam. Fl. Jun-Aug, fr. Jun-Oct.

 Wastelands, grasslands, thickets, open forests, along ditches, roadsides;
 1400-2200 m. E Xizang (Zaya Xian), Yunnan [widespread in tropical Asia and
 Africa].

 8. Solanum anguivi Lam., Tabl. Encycl. 2:23. 1794. Hepper, Bot. J. Linn.
 Soc. 76:290. 1978.

 YASIN J. NASIR

 A prickly undershrub, 1.5-2 m tall, with dense stellate-tomentose parts.
 Prickles up to 10 mm long, erect to slightly recurved. Leaves 4-15 x 3.5-9
 cm, ovate to oblong-ovate, repand, acute, both surfaces stellately hairy and
 prickly on the nerves. Petiole up to 2.5 cm long. Flowers 4-15 in number,
 bluish-purple, in extra-axillary cymes. Calyx ± 4 mm long, campanulate,
 stellately hairy. Corolla limb 18-20 mm broad; lobes acute. Anthers 6-7 mm
 long; filaments glabrous. Ovary and style pilose-pubescent. Berry globose,
 (5-)8-10 mm broad, glabrescent, yellow. Seeds ± 3 mm long, subreniform,
 minutely reticulate, foveolate.

 Fl. Per.: Mostly throughout the year.

 Type: Described from Madagascar, Commerson (MPU, syntype P).

 Distribution: S.  S. E. Asia, Arabia and tropical Africa.

 Solanum viarum
 Solanum anguivi

 Prickcle on stem recurved or needle-like                prickles up to 10
 mm long,

 up to 5 mm long
   slightly recurved.or erect

 Petiole 3-7 cm, with flat straight prickles  Petiole up to
 2.5 cm,

 Leaves unequal  pairs, 3-5 lobed   Leaves
 oblong-ovate, repand

 Flowers in 1-5 fld racemes    Flowers
 4-15, in extraaxillary cymes,

 white or green
   flowers bluish-purple

 Berry glabrous, pale yellow, 2-3 cm Berry
 glabrous, yellow, 8-10 mm

 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86826flora_id=5

 I would go with S. viarum on the basis of longer petioles and prickles on
 leaf surface.



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Re: [efloraofindia:28964] A Solanum sp

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
Dear all,
The flowers in Solanum viarum Dunal are usually *white* and the fruits
(small wild brinjals,some *3 cm* across?) are used as vegetable by local
people in TN. Plants are smaller when compare to S. anguivi (= S. indicum).
So the pictures shared by Sibdas ji must be *Solanum anguivi* (shrub 1-1.5 m
high, with fruits of about 1 cm) and not S. viarum. He may like to provide
more pictures for better understanding.

check these links: http://www.fleppc.org/ID_book/solanum%20viarum.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_2132028.jpg 
http://www.forestryimages.org/search/action.cfm?q=Solanum%20viarum

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 I am not very sure now, because since posting my last mail, I have
 seen pictures of  ripe fruits that are yellow in colour, but the
 fruits I have seen in my farm is of fruits that are red in colour.
 We may have to wait a while and study a bit more.
 Regards
 Yazdy Palia.

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear All,
  On the basis of the relevant taxonomic characters discussed by Yazdy Ji 
  Gurcharan Ji we all can come into a positive conclusion that The plant
 in
  the attached photographs belong to the genus Solanum sp and its specific
  epithet is Solanum viarum. I personally thank all of you for taking the
  tedious effort and well planned techniques to decipher the name of
 this long
  discussed plant from West Bengal brought into our notice by Mr. Sibdas
  Ghosh.
 
  THANKS TO ALL
 
  Regards,
  Tanay Bose.
 
  On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I have the following observations
  The plant can't be Solanum xanthocarpum which has subsequently been
 named
  as S. surattense and now correctly as S. virginianum, because that plant
 is
  a small spreading subshrub with leaves not velvety.
  The name S. indicum applied to Indian plants is not valid. Some of
 Indian
  Plants i.e. S. indicum auct with glabrous fruits is correctly S.
 anguivi, S.
  indicum L. now correctly known as lasiocarpum has tomentose berries.
 S. verbascifolium L. now correctly known as S. erianthum has unarmed
  stems and leaves.
  I think the toss is between S. viarum and S. anguivi:
 
   Solanum viarum Dunal in A. de Candolle, Prodr. 13(1): 240. 1852
 
  Syn: Solanum khasianum C. B. Clarke var. chatterjeeanum Sen Gupta.
 
  Herbs or subshrubs, erect, 0.5-1(-2) m tall, armed, minutely tomentose
  with many-celled, simple, mostly glandular hairs. Stems and branches
 terete,
  densely and evenly pubescent with many-celled, simple hairs to 1 mm,
 armed
  with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with needlelike
  prickles 1-4 mm. Leaves unequal paired; petiole stout 3-7 cm, armed with
  erect, flat straight prickles 0.3-1.8 cm; leaf blade broadly ovate, 6-13
 ×
  6-12 cm, with prickles and coarse, many-celled, glandular simple hairs
 on
  both surfaces, these mixed with sparse, sessile, stellate hairs
 abaxially,
  base truncate to short hastate, margin 3-5-lobed or -parted; lobes blunt
 at
  apex. Inflorescences extra-axillary, subfasciculate, 1-5-flowered
 racemes;
  peduncle obsolete or short. Flowers andromonoecious, only basal ones
  fertile. Pedicel 4-6 mm. Calyx campanulate, ca. 10 × 7 mm, lobes
  oblong-lanceolate, 0.6-1.2 mm, hairy and sometimes prickly abaxially.
  Corolla white or green; lobes lanceolate, ca. 2.5 × 10 mm, pubescent as
 on
  calyx. Filaments 1-1.5 mm; anthers lanceolate, acuminate, 6-7 mm. Ovary
  puberulent. Style ca. 8 mm, glabrous. Berry pale yellow, globose, 2-3 cm
 in
  diam. Seeds brown, lenticular, 2-2.8 mm in diam. Fl. Jun-Aug, fr.
 Jun-Oct.
 
  Wastelands, grasslands, thickets, open forests, along ditches,
 roadsides;
  1400-2200 m. E Xizang (Zaya Xian), Yunnan [widespread in tropical Asia
 and
  Africa].
 
  8. Solanum anguivi Lam., Tabl. Encycl. 2:23. 1794. Hepper, Bot. J. Linn.
  Soc. 76:290. 1978.
 
  YASIN J. NASIR
 
  A prickly undershrub, 1.5-2 m tall, with dense stellate-tomentose parts.
  Prickles up to 10 mm long, erect to slightly recurved. Leaves 4-15 x
 3.5-9
  cm, ovate to oblong-ovate, repand, acute, both surfaces stellately hairy
 and
  prickly on the nerves. Petiole up to 2.5 cm long. Flowers 4-15 in
 number,
  bluish-purple, in extra-axillary cymes. Calyx ± 4 mm long, campanulate,
  stellately hairy. Corolla limb 18-20 mm broad; lobes acute. Anthers 6-7
 mm
  long; filaments glabrous. Ovary and style pilose-pubescent. Berry
 globose,
  (5-)8-10 mm broad, glabrescent, yellow. Seeds ± 3 mm long, subreniform,
  minutely reticulate, foveolate.
 
  Fl. Per.: Mostly throughout the year.
 
  Type: Described from Madagascar, Commerson (MPU, syntype P).
 
  Distribution: S.  S. E. Asia, Arabia and tropical Africa.
 
  Solanum viarum
  Solanum anguivi
 
  Prickcle on stem recurved or needle-likeprickles up to
 10
  mm long,
 
  up to 5 mm long
slightly recurved.or 

Re: [efloraofindia:28965] Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
*Rivea hypocrateriformis*, perhaps.

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:28 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can it be* Argyreia elliptica*?

 Regards
 Tanay

   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps woodrose Argyreia nervosa or some other species


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Mayur Nandikar 
 mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote:

 HELLO,

   *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *


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Re: [efloraofindia:28966] Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Earlier discussion on Rivea in this group.

http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/e3ebf8e8f15f0f1c/3f4c86f49c07d41f?hl=enlnk=gstq=sanjvel#3f4c86f49c07d41f

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:40 PM, R. Vijayasankar
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 *Rivea hypocrateriformis*, perhaps.


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:28 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can it be* Argyreia elliptica*?

 Regards
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   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps woodrose Argyreia nervosa or some other species


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 HELLO,

   *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *


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Re: [efloraofindia:28967] Brugmansia for ID: 060310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Dear Tanay and Kenneth,
Thanks for the ids.
Regards,
Aarti


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 Dear Arati ji,
 The plant in the attached photo graph is a hybrid *Brugmansia sp* which is
 known as  *Brugmansia x candida 'Double White'* (Double White Angel's
 Trumpet)

 Regards
 Tanay


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 *Date/Time* : 24th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters ... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* :
 *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: 5-6 meters ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* : about 6-8 inches ... *Colour* : white,yellow ... *Calyx*: 
 ...
 *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :

 The flowers had a double layer.
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[efloraofindia:28969] Welcome : Dr. P. Ravichandran

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
Dear all,

I am delighted to see my Ph.D. guide *Dr. Perumal Ravichandran* (Reader,
Manonmaniam Sundaranar University, Tirunelveli, TN) on this group. He is a
great scientist with unmatchable expertise in the fields of Agrostology
(study of grasses), plant physiology, biotechnology etc. Being one of the
very few experts on the grasses, he has published several papers and
described new species. We are lucky to have him with us. I strongly hope
that he will spare some time, amidst his busy schedule and projects, for our
group in identification of grasses and other plants.

I codially welcome him on board.

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Re: [efloraofindia:28970] Identification Part 7: Amaranth species

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
Picture DSC00075 is *Amaranthus spinosus*. The other one looks different.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:08 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id assistance pl.


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 This is the last part 7.

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Re: [efloraofindia:28971] Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear All,
I think Vijatsankar ji is right . the plant in the attached photo can be *Rivea
hypocrateriformis.*

Regards
Tanay

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:40 PM, R. Vijayasankar
vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Rivea hypocrateriformis*, perhaps.


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:28 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can it be* Argyreia elliptica*?

 Regards
 Tanay

   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps woodrose Argyreia nervosa or some other species


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 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Mayur Nandikar 
 mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote:

 HELLO,

   *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *


 Thanx
 --
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Re: [efloraofindia:28972] Fwd: ID Pl..

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Vijaysankar ji ,
I am waiting for experts to comment and not making any guess. Your
speculation can be true!!

Regards
Tanay

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:11 AM, R. Vijayasankar
vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear,
 These lovely pictures by Prashant ji have been there in the 'unidentified'
 category of FlowersofIndia site for a long.(
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/Unidentified/).

 I don't think it is Emilia sonchifolia, because:
 http://www.hear.org/pier/imagepages/singles/emsonp10.htm

 Any possibility for being *Emilia scabra*?

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Dear Tanay.
 Best wishes
 Prashant


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:10 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Prasant Ji,
 This plant is undoubtedly from the genus Emilia  sonchifolia  because


- Leaves mostly in proximal 1 / 2 , usually petiolate.
- blades ovate to obovate or oblanceolate. margins deeply lobed.
- Involucres mostly urceolate to campanulate, relatively slender.



 For informations Please connect with this link provided
 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1taxon_id=111550

 Regards,
 Tanay


   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

  Forwarding again for ID confirmation..

 earlier response.. from Parjanya Guru..
 The plant , as peer my knowledge.., seems to be  *Emilia sonchifolia
 *of Asteraceae. But has to be confirmed, if you send some more clear
 pictures of leaves

 Thanks  best wishes
 Prashant

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 Request for ID. Photographed at Munnar.

 Thanks  best wishes
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Re: [efloraofindia:28973] Re: [indiantreepix:23865] id requested

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
It should be either Flacourtia or Scolopia. Not Cassine.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote:

 I also think it is not from Celastraceae.
 Satish Phadke


 On 23 November 2009 20:16, shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.comwrote:

 dear all,

 photos of a large bush, reaching an height of 4 mtr, near mysore city
 outskirts is forwarded for identification.


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Re: [efloraofindia:28974] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1

2010-03-06 Thread R. Vijayasankar
Yes, this is *Solanum viarum*. The unripe fruits used as vegetable, a wild
relative of Brinjal.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Friends,
 I agree with Mr. Tanay Bose. Please go through the link

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Solanum+viarumburl=http:/http:/www.invasivespeciesinfo.govbtxt=InvasiveSpeciesInfo.gov
 Regards
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  Dear Prasant ji,
  This plant is indeed Solanum viarum Dunal. common name Tropical Soda
 apple.
  you will get more information about this plant from the link below...
 
 
 http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/solanaceaesource/taxonomy/description-detail.jsp?taxa=6185
 
  Beat Regards,
  Tanay
 
  On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 
 
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  Subject: [efloraofindia:27117] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1
  To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 
 
  Dear Friends,
  Came across this plant near Ramghal (Helwak region). Its a Solanaceae
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  Looks like  *Solanum viarum*?
  (i.e. Tropical Soda Apple).
 
  Kindly validate the ID.
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:28975] Hiptage benghalensis

2010-03-06 Thread Dr Santhosh Kumar
Very nice photographs Pravin Ji
Santhosh

On 5 March 2010 18:14, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

Hiptage benghalensis

 Family: Malphighiaceae
 CommonName :Maadhavi lata,Halad-wel
 Date/Time :   05 Mar,2010  9.00 am
 Location: Kanakeshwar,Alibag MS
 Habit : Shrub
 Habitat :   Moist Deciduous Forest
 Leaves 4-9 in. long; flowers 0.7 - 1 in across; wings of samaras 1.5 in.
 long.
 Leaf Arrangement:   Opposite
 Leaf Shape :Elliptical or oval, Oblong
 Leaf Apex : Acuminate or acaudate
 Leaf Base : Acute
 Inflorescence:  Terminal, Axillary, Corymb
 Flower Colour : Pink, White
 Flowering Month:October-March
 -Fruit :Samara, Winged
 Regards
   Pravin



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Re: [efloraofindia:28977] Fwd: ID Pl..

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
As per the link by Vijayasankar ji and below one, the plant does not appear
to be Emilia sonchifolia

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=57485flora_id=1

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=57485flora_id=1E.
coccinea also looks similar, but only a vague guess


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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Vijaysankar ji ,
 I am waiting for experts to comment and not making any guess. Your
 speculation can be true!!

 Regards
 Tanay

 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:11 AM, R. Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Dear,
 These lovely pictures by Prashant ji have been there in the 'unidentified'
 category of FlowersofIndia site for a long.(
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/Unidentified/).

 I don't think it is Emilia sonchifolia, because:
 http://www.hear.org/pier/imagepages/singles/emsonp10.htm

 Any possibility for being *Emilia scabra*?

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Dear Tanay.
 Best wishes
 Prashant


 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:10 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Prasant Ji,
 This plant is undoubtedly from the genus Emilia  sonchifolia  because


- Leaves mostly in proximal 1 / 2 , usually petiolate.
- blades ovate to obovate or oblanceolate. margins deeply lobed.
- Involucres mostly urceolate to campanulate, relatively slender.



 For informations Please connect with this link provided
 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1taxon_id=111550

 Regards,
 Tanay


   On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

  Forwarding again for ID confirmation..

 earlier response.. from Parjanya Guru..
 The plant , as peer my knowledge.., seems to be  *Emilia sonchifolia
 *of Asteraceae. But has to be confirmed, if you send some more clear
 pictures of leaves

 Thanks  best wishes
 Prashant

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 Request for ID. Photographed at Munnar.

 Thanks  best wishes
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Re: [efloraofindia:28978] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Santosh Kumar ji, for final conclusion.

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 This is without any doubt Ardisia solanacea, commonly known as
 Manimundakizhangu in Malayalam.

 Santhosh


 On 5 March 2010 12:11, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Resurfacing again for ID
 The plant has undergone lots of discussion, but still unresolved

 Pankaj ji and Shrikant
 ji...Ardisia solanacea

 Satish pardesi ji and Dinesh ji.
 doubted it being A. solanacea.


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 Subject: [efloraofindia:27105] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2
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  Hi,
 request for id.
 pics taken at Mollem wildlife sanctuary, Goa on 30th Jan 2010.
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Re: [efloraofindia:28979] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Vijaysankar ji,
Thank you very much for further confirmation of the plant as *Solanum viarum
*. Looking for forward for any other speculations.
Regards.
Tanay

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:49 AM, R. Vijayasankar
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 Yes, this is *Solanum viarum*. The unripe fruits used as vegetable, a wild
 relative of Brinjal.

 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Friends,
 I agree with Mr. Tanay Bose. Please go through the link

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Solanum+viarumburl=http:/http:/www.invasivespeciesinfo.govbtxt=InvasiveSpeciesInfo.gov
 Regards
 Y. R. Palia.

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  Dear Prasant ji,
  This plant is indeed Solanum viarum Dunal. common name Tropical Soda
 apple.
  you will get more information about this plant from the link below...
 
 
 http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/solanaceaesource/taxonomy/description-detail.jsp?taxa=6185
 
  Beat Regards,
  Tanay
 
  On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 
 
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  Date: 2 February 2010 21:10
  Subject: [efloraofindia:27117] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1
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  Dear Friends,
  Came across this plant near Ramghal (Helwak region). Its a Solanaceae
 sp.
  Looks like  *Solanum viarum*?
  (i.e. Tropical Soda Apple).
 
  Kindly validate the ID.
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:28980] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear All.
I will definitely support the thought of Dr. Santosh Kumar ji regarding the
identification of this much discussed plant. I also added a link in my
previous thread which consisted a photo of *A solanacea* and it undoubtedly
matched with the photographs attached. I will also like to thank him for
increasing my confidence on concluding this plant as *A solanacea*.

Regards
Tanay



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 Thanks Santosh Kumar ji, for final conclusion.

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 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
 drsanthosh1...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is without any doubt Ardisia solanacea, commonly known as
 Manimundakizhangu in Malayalam.

 Santhosh


 On 5 March 2010 12:11, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Resurfacing again for ID
 The plant has undergone lots of discussion, but still unresolved

 Pankaj ji and Shrikant
 ji...Ardisia solanacea

 Satish pardesi ji and Dinesh ji.
 doubted it being A. solanacea.


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 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
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 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



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 Date: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM
 Subject: [efloraofindia:27105] Request for id - 310110_Goa_SSN_2
 To: indian tree pix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


  Hi,
 request for id.
 pics taken at Mollem wildlife sanctuary, Goa on 30th Jan 2010.
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[efloraofindia:28981] Re: Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
It is fruiting Rivea hypocrateriformis. Regards, Shrikant

On Mar 6, 8:48 pm, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.com wrote:
 HELLO,

 *Date/Time-*

 *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*

 *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Climber but liana like appreance*

 *Height/Length-*

 *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 * *

 *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *Not observed *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Capsule very showy when dry.*

 *
 *

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Re: [efloraofindia:28982] Re: Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Thank you Shrikant ji for confirming about the identification of this plant.
Regards
Tanay

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:53 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar
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 It is fruiting Rivea hypocrateriformis. Regards, Shrikant

 On Mar 6, 8:48 pm, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.com wrote:
  HELLO,
 
  *Date/Time-*
 
  *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*
 
  *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*
 
  *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*
 
  *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
 
  *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*
 
  *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *
 
  *Climber but liana like appreance*
 
  *Height/Length-*
 
  *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*
 
  *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
 
  * *
 
  *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*
 
  *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
 
  *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*
 
  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 
  *Not observed *
 
  *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*
 
  *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *
 
  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
 
  *Capsule very showy when dry.*
 
  *
  *
 
  Thanx
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[efloraofindia:28983] Re: Fwd: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?

2010-03-06 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
 In the key the sp. get separated by number of stamens, 2 in case of
N. reticulatus and 4 in case of P. ritchei. Leaves in former are 7-8
cm long, ovate, reticulate (which can be seen in picture), glabrous
and in latter case are 3 cm, orbicular/cordate and hairy. The bracts
in latter are bristly and hairy which also do not show in picture. The
former is common at Mahabaleshwar. I suggested this ID on the basis of
general impression because both plants are so familiar to me but I am
glad that this question has occured to some one. Regards, Shrikant

On Mar 5, 5:43 pm, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 Earlier relevant feedback:
 “... *looks like Strobilanthes ixiocephalus (syn.: Thelepaepale ixiocephala,
 T. ixiocephalus).*.. commonly known as: sky blue karvy • Marathi: बिट कारवी
 bit karvi, पातरी patri, वायटी waiti • Kannada: ಪಿಠ ಕಾರವೀ pit-karvi •
 Konkani: पिट कारवी pit karvi” from Dinesh ji.

 “I feel that *the species in first image is different and appears to be
 Pleocaulus ritchie.
 *
 best regards

 Adittya Dharap”



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 Subject: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?
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 Attaching few shrubs seen during the Mahabaleshwar trip 8Nov 2009.
 Does it look like some Karvi(Strobilanthes or Carvia) species?
 Pictures taken at different locations and during diff times of the day.
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[efloraofindia:28984] Re: Anogeissus acuminata

2010-03-06 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
The branches are pendulous, leaves are acuminate and 5-7 nerved and
the peduncles are not branched. These characters lead to A. acuminata.
The other A. latifolia would have had branches not pendulous, leaves
obtuse and 6-10 nerved, peduncles branched. The key character says
that for A. acuminata beak shorter than the nucleus of the fruit which
is apparent in the picture. Regards, Shrikant

On Mar 5, 8:19 pm, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think the tree in the picture is Anogeissus acuminata syn.Anogeissus
 pendula
 Please validate.
 Dr Phadke

   *Date/Time-*

 * *

 * 4th Feb 2010 2:30pm
 *

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *

 * *

 * Pune University campus. Near signal
 *

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 * *

 * Wild*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 * *

 * tree
 *

 *Height/Length- *

 * *

 * **12-15M*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *

 * *

 * simple.*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *

 * *

 * *

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 * *

 * 1.2cm*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 * *

 *
 *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 * *

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[efloraofindia:28985] Re: Plant for ID SMP 04/03/2010 Large shrub

2010-03-06 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
This is S. torvum. Tall shrub or a small tree, branches unarmed,
leaves 10-20 cm, flowers in terminal corymbs, berries globose, yellow
on maturity. Regards, Shrikant

On Mar 5, 8:02 pm, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Attaching pictures of a large shrub or a small tree.For ID. To me appears to
 be from Solanaceae.
 No prickles or thorns

   *Date/Time-*

 * *

 * 4th March 2010. 2pm
 *

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *

 * *

 * Pune outskirts
 *

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 * *

 * wild*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 * *

 * Shrub*

 *Height/Length- *

 * *

 * 8-10 feet
 *

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *

 * *

 * simple oval. ?tomentose
 *

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *

 * *

 * Cymes*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 * *

 * Not present
 *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 * *

 * globose with persistent calyx
 *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 * *

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Re: [efloraofindia:28988] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1

2010-03-06 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Mr. R. Vijayasankar,
The unripe fruit that is normally eaten is Solanum Torvum .I have
never come across anyone eating the immature fruits of Solanum Viarum.
The first is smaller and is green in colour about 12 mm in diameter,
whereas the latter is around 30 mm in diameter is light green with
white design all round. The leaves are very much similar.
Kindly go through the link given below.
http://www.keralaayurvedics.com/leaves-and-vegetables/chunda-solanum-torvum-vegetables-of-kerala.html
Regards
Yazdy Palia.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:49 AM, R. Vijayasankar
vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, this is Solanum viarum. The unripe fruits used as vegetable, a wild
 relative of Brinjal.

 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Friends,
 I agree with Mr. Tanay Bose. Please go through the link

 http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Solanum+viarumburl=http:/http:/www.invasivespeciesinfo.govbtxt=InvasiveSpeciesInfo.gov
 Regards
 Y. R. Palia.

 On 3/4/10, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Prasant ji,
  This plant is indeed Solanum viarum Dunal. common name Tropical Soda
  apple.
  you will get more information about this plant from the link below...
 
 
  http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/solanaceaesource/taxonomy/description-detail.jsp?taxa=6185
 
  Beat Regards,
  Tanay
 
  On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
 
 
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  Date: 2 February 2010 21:10
  Subject: [efloraofindia:27117] Solanum viarum?-020210-PKA1
  To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 
 
  Dear Friends,
  Came across this plant near Ramghal (Helwak region). Its a Solanaceae
  sp.
  Looks like  *Solanum viarum*?
  (i.e. Tropical Soda Apple).
 
  Kindly validate the ID.
 
  Thanks  best wishes
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Re: [efloraofindia:28989] Re: Plant for ID SMP 04/03/2010 Large shrub

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Plants in S. torvum according to both Eflora of China and Pakistan are
prickly:

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3447flora_id=2
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3447flora_id=2

I think this plant is Solanum erianthum (Syn; S. verbascifolium auct.):

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86821flora_id=5

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86821flora_id=5
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3430flora_id=2

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:54 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar
le...@rediffmail.comwrote:

 This is S. torvum. Tall shrub or a small tree, branches unarmed,
 leaves 10-20 cm, flowers in terminal corymbs, berries globose, yellow
 on maturity. Regards, Shrikant

 On Mar 5, 8:02 pm, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Attaching pictures of a large shrub or a small tree.For ID. To me appears
 to
  be from Solanaceae.
  No prickles or thorns
 
*Date/Time-*
 
  * *
 
  * 4th March 2010. 2pm
  *
 
  *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *
 
  * *
 
  * Pune outskirts
  *
 
  *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
 
  * *
 
  * wild*
 
  *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *
 
  * *
 
  * Shrub*
 
  *Height/Length- *
 
  * *
 
  * 8-10 feet
  *
 
  *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *
 
  * *
 
  * simple oval. ?tomentose
  *
 
  *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *
 
  * *
 
  * Cymes*
 
  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 
  * *
 
  * Not present
  *
 
  *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*
 
  * *
 
  * globose with persistent calyx
  *
 
  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
 
  * *
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:28990] Solanum mammosum L.

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
A very interesting plant Tanay, thanks for this interesting upload. We were
long waiting for interesting plants from Eastern Himalayas. Hope to see
more.

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 *Specific Epithet: Solanum mammosum L.*
 *Date/Time-* *November 2008*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-* *Darjeeling/ 2000 m above sea level*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* *Wild*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-* *Annual to shrubby perennial***

 *Height/Length-* *1.5-2 meters*

 *Stem-* *flexuous, white and brown simple pubescent with a few
 porrect-stellate hair clusters, with spines 11-14 mm long, flattened,
 straight or curved. ***

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* *Leaves** with petioles 20-45 mm long, blades
 orbicular in outline, 6-14 x 7-14 cm, base slightly cordate, apex acute,
 margins sharply angular or dentate, white pilose on both surfaces, acicular
 spines on midrib and veins below.***

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-** **Inflorescence** congested umbelliform, 1-
 or 2- to 6-flowered.*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* *Pedicels 6-10 mm long, villose;
 calyx campanulate, 5 mm in diameter, lobes linear acuminate 5 mm long,
 villose; corolla 18-24 mm long, lobes lanceolate-oblong, acuminate, purple;
 anthers 9-12 mm long.***

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*  *Berry** 32-60 mm long, 30-45 mm in
 diameter, mammose, the basal protuberances 3 or 5, orange, shiny.*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc. -* *It is reputed
 to have medicinal use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbalism in various
 treatments, from athlete's 
 foothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlete%27s_footto irritability and 
 restlessness, and is sometimes used as a
 detergent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent. It is imported to
 Taiwan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan for use as a religious
 offering.***

 *References:*

 Hancock, I. R./Henderson, C. P. 
 1988.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000428.htmFlora of the 
 Solomon Islands. Research Bulletin No. 7. Ministry of
 Agriculture and Lands, Honiara. 203 pp.

 Howard, Richard A. 
 1989.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000383.htmFlora of the 
 Lesser Antilles: Leeward and Windward Islands. Vol. 6
 Dicotyledoneae-Part 3 Arnold Arboretum, Harvard University. 658 pp.

 Imada, Clyde T./Staples, George W./Herbst, Derral R. 
 2008.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000529.htmAnnotated 
 checklist of cultivated plants of Hawai‘i (online searchable
 database).

 MacKee, H. S. 
 1994.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000360.htmCatalogue des 
 plantes introduites et cultivées en Nouvelle-Calédonie. Muséum
 National d'Histoire Naturelle, Paris, 164 p.

 Smith, Albert C. 
 1991.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref07.htmFlora Vitiensis 
 nova: a new flora of Fiji. National Tropical Botanical
 Garden, Lawai, Kauai, Hawaii. Volume 5. 626 pp.

 U.S. Dept. Agr., Agr. Res. Serv. 
 2008.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000300.htmNational Genetic 
 Resources Program. Germplasm Resources Information Network
 (GRIN). Online searchable database.

 Whistler, W. A. 
 1988.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref10.htmChecklist of the 
 weed flora of western Polynesia. Technical Paper No. 194,
 South Pacific Commission, Noumea, New Caledonia. 69 pp.




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Re: [efloraofindia:28991] Plant for ID SMP 04/03/2010 Large shrub

2010-03-06 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Satish Phadke ji,
Please check up once again. I do not think this is Solanum Torvum. For
reference, I am providing the link.
http://www.keralaayurvedics.com/leaves-and-vegetables/chunda-solanum-torvum-vegetables-of-kerala.html
Regards
Yazdy Palia.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Attaching pictures of a large shrub or a small tree.For ID. To me appears
 to be from Solanaceae.
 No prickles or thorns

   *Date/Time-*

 * *

 * 4th March 2010. 2pm
 *

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *

 * *

 * Pune outskirts
 *

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 * *

 * wild*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 * *

 * Shrub*

 *Height/Length- *

 * *

 * 8-10 feet
 *

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *

 * *

 * simple oval. ?tomentose
 *

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *

 * *

 * Cymes*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 * *

 * Not present
 *

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 * *

 * globose with persistent calyx
 *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 * *

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Re: [efloraofindia:28992] Re: Fwd: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Shrikanr Ji,
I am very much thankful to you for providing me with informations regarding
both the plant. It really updated my knowledge.
Regards
Tanay

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:29 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar
le...@rediffmail.comwrote:

  In the key the sp. get separated by number of stamens, 2 in case of
 N. reticulatus and 4 in case of P. ritchei. Leaves in former are 7-8
 cm long, ovate, reticulate (which can be seen in picture), glabrous
 and in latter case are 3 cm, orbicular/cordate and hairy. The bracts
 in latter are bristly and hairy which also do not show in picture. The
 former is common at Mahabaleshwar. I suggested this ID on the basis of
 general impression because both plants are so familiar to me but I am
 glad that this question has occured to some one. Regards, Shrikant

 On Mar 5, 5:43 pm, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
  Earlier relevant feedback:
  “... *looks like Strobilanthes ixiocephalus (syn.: Thelepaepale
 ixiocephala,
  T. ixiocephalus).*.. commonly known as: sky blue karvy • Marathi: बिट
 कारवी
  bit karvi, पातरी patri, वायटी waiti • Kannada: ಪಿಠ ಕಾರವೀ pit-karvi •
  Konkani: पिट कारवी pit karvi” from Dinesh ji.
 
  “I feel that *the species in first image is different and appears to be
  Pleocaulus ritchie.
  *
  best regards
 
  Adittya Dharap”
 
 
 
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  Date: 23 November 2009 12:16
  Subject: [indiantreepix:23782] Is it Karvi(Carvia/Strobilanthes) species?
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  Attaching few shrubs seen during the Mahabaleshwar trip 8Nov 2009.
  Does it look like some Karvi(Strobilanthes or Carvia) species?
  Pictures taken at different locations and during diff times of the day.
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Re: [efloraofindia:28993] Re: Plant for ID SMP 04/03/2010 Large shrub

2010-03-06 Thread Yazdy Palia
Dear Friends,
I think Dr. Gurcharan Singh is correct. Please go through the link
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=+Solanum+erianthumie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=tclient=firefox-arlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
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 Plants in S. torvum according to both Eflora of China and Pakistan are
 prickly:
 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3447flora_id=2

 I think this plant is Solanum erianthum (Syn; S. verbascifolium auct.):
 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86821flora_id=5
 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3430flora_id=2
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 wrote:

 This is S. torvum. Tall shrub or a small tree, branches unarmed,
 leaves 10-20 cm, flowers in terminal corymbs, berries globose, yellow
 on maturity. Regards, Shrikant

 On Mar 5, 8:02 pm, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Attaching pictures of a large shrub or a small tree.For ID. To me
  appears to
  be from Solanaceae.
  No prickles or thorns
 
    *Date/Time-*
 
  * *
 
  * 4th March 2010. 2pm
  *
 
  *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *
 
  * *
 
  * Pune outskirts
  *
 
  *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
 
  * *
 
  * wild*
 
  *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *
 
  * *
 
  * Shrub*
 
  *Height/Length- *
 
  * *
 
  * 8-10 feet
  *
 
  *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *
 
  * *
 
  * simple oval. ?tomentose
  *
 
  *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *
 
  * *
 
  * Cymes*
 
  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 
  * *
 
  * Not present
  *
 
  *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*
 
  * *
 
  * globose with persistent calyx
  *
 
  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
 
  * *
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:28994] Malva microcarpa from Delhi

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Thanks Sir for adding a rare spreading herd from Malvaceae. at first glance
anyone can mix  it up with Cucurbitaceae.

regards
Tanay

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 Malva microcarpa Pers. (syn: M. parviflora var. microcarpa (Pers.) Loscos
 from Delhi

*Date/Time-*

 *March 6, 2010, 9.30 am*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-*

 *Vikas Puri, New Delhi, 213 m asl*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 *Wild, in lawns, waste places *

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

 *Spreading herb, decumbent*

 *Height/Length*

 *spread upto 25 cm, height up to 15 cm*

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 *Simple, palmately lobed, on long petiole, mucilagnous*

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 *axilary, solitary or up to 3 in cluster*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 *5-7 mm, white, epicalyx linear,*

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*

 *Longish cylindrical pod as in picture10 cm*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*

 *Schizocarpic, mericarps 8-10, reticulate*

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Re: [efloraofindia:28996] Request for ID: 070310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Cineraria cruenta please

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  *Date/Time* : 24th and 25th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
 *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* : about 2 inches ... *Colour* : Blue/Purple ... *Calyx* :
 ... *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :


 Found these in the plant nursery at SHRIL, Kodaikanal.
 Could someone know help me in identifying them?
 Thanks
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Re: [efloraofindia:28997] Solanum mammosum L.

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Thank you Sir Ji . i will try to get hold of some interesting plant from
eastern himalaya.

Regards
Tanay

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 A very interesting plant Tanay, thanks for this interesting upload. We were
 long waiting for interesting plants from Eastern Himalayas. Hope to see
 more.

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   *Specific Epithet: Solanum mammosum L.*
 *Date/Time-* *November 2008*

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-* *Darjeeling/ 2000 m above sea level*

 *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* *Wild*

 *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-* *Annual to shrubby perennial**
 *

 *Height/Length-* *1.5-2 meters*

 *Stem-* *flexuous, white and brown simple pubescent with a few
 porrect-stellate hair clusters, with spines 11-14 mm long, flattened,
 straight or curved. ***

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* *Leaves** with petioles 20-45 mm long, blades
 orbicular in outline, 6-14 x 7-14 cm, base slightly cordate, apex acute,
 margins sharply angular or dentate, white pilose on both surfaces, acicular
 spines on midrib and veins below.***

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-** **Inflorescence** congested umbelliform, 1-
 or 2- to 6-flowered.*

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* *Pedicels 6-10 mm long, villose;
 calyx campanulate, 5 mm in diameter, lobes linear acuminate 5 mm long,
 villose; corolla 18-24 mm long, lobes lanceolate-oblong, acuminate, purple;
 anthers 9-12 mm long.***

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*  *Berry** 32-60 mm long, 30-45 mm in
 diameter, mammose, the basal protuberances 3 or 5, orange, shiny.*

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc. -* *It is
 reputed to have medicinal use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbalism in
 various treatments, from athlete's 
 foothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlete%27s_footto irritability and 
 restlessness, and is sometimes used as a
 detergent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent. It is imported to
 Taiwan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan for use as a religious
 offering.***

 *References:*

 Hancock, I. R./Henderson, C. P. 
 1988.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000428.htmFlora of the 
 Solomon Islands. Research Bulletin No. 7. Ministry of
 Agriculture and Lands, Honiara. 203 pp.

 Howard, Richard A. 
 1989.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000383.htmFlora of the 
 Lesser Antilles: Leeward and Windward Islands. Vol. 6
 Dicotyledoneae-Part 3 Arnold Arboretum, Harvard University. 658 pp.

 Imada, Clyde T./Staples, George W./Herbst, Derral R. 
 2008.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000529.htmAnnotated 
 checklist of cultivated plants of Hawai‘i (online searchable
 database).

 MacKee, H. S. 
 1994.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000360.htmCatalogue des 
 plantes introduites et cultivées en Nouvelle-Calédonie. Muséum
 National d'Histoire Naturelle, Paris, 164 p.

 Smith, Albert C. 
 1991.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref07.htmFlora Vitiensis 
 nova: a new flora of Fiji. National Tropical Botanical
 Garden, Lawai, Kauai, Hawaii. Volume 5. 626 pp.

 U.S. Dept. Agr., Agr. Res. Serv. 
 2008.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref000300.htmNational Genetic 
 Resources Program. Germplasm Resources Information Network
 (GRIN). Online searchable database.

 Whistler, W. A. 
 1988.http://www.hear.org/pier/references/pierref10.htmChecklist of the 
 weed flora of western Polynesia. Technical Paper No. 194,
 South Pacific Commission, Noumea, New Caledonia. 69 pp.




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Re: [efloraofindia:28998] Request for ID: 070310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear arati ji,
 this plant is Cineraria cruenta Masson ex L'Hér.{Senecio cruentus (Masson
ex L'Hér.) DC} family asteraceae.

Regards
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 Cineraria cruenta please

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  *Date/Time* : 24th and 25th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
 *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* : about 2 inches ... *Colour* : Blue/Purple ... *Calyx* :
 ... *Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :


 Found these in the plant nursery at SHRIL, Kodaikanal.
 Could someone know help me in identifying them?
 Thanks
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[efloraofindia:28999] Re: Request for ID: 070310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Dear Gurcharan ji and Tanay,
I'm getting my unidentified flowers identified faster than I imagined!
Thanks a lot.
Aarti

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 Dear arati ji,
  this plant is Cineraria cruenta Masson ex L'Hér.{Senecio cruentus (Masson
 ex L'Hér.) DC} family asteraceae.

 Regards
 Tanay





 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Cineraria cruenta please

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 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Aarti S. Khale 
  aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

   *Date/Time* : 24th and 25th of October, 2008
  *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters... *GPS* :
  *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
  *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
  *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
  *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
  *Flowers Size* : about 2 inches ... *Colour* : Blue/Purple ... *Calyx* :
  ... *Bracts* :
  *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

  *Other Info* :
  *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :

  Found these in the plant nursery at SHRIL, Kodaikanal.
  Could someone know help me in identifying them?
  Thanks
  Aarti

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Re: [efloraofindia:29000] Re: Request for ID: 070310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Dear Arati Ji,
Great to know my attempt was successful and it came into your use.
Regards
Tanay
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Gurcharan ji and Tanay,
 I'm getting my unidentified flowers identified faster than I imagined!
 Thanks a lot.
 Aarti

 On Mar 7, 9:16 am, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear arati ji,
   this plant is Cineraria cruenta Masson ex L'Hér.{Senecio cruentus
 (Masson
  ex L'Hér.) DC} family asteraceae.
 
  Regards
  Tanay
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Cineraria cruenta please
 
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   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
   On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
*Date/Time* : 24th and 25th of October, 2008
   *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters... *GPS* :
   *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
   *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
   *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
   *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
   *Flowers Size* : about 2 inches ... *Colour* : Blue/Purple ... *Calyx*
 :
   ... *Bracts* :
   *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :
 
   *Other Info* :
   *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :
 
   Found these in the plant nursery at SHRIL, Kodaikanal.
   Could someone know help me in identifying them?
   Thanks
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Re: [efloraofindia:29002] Re: Species for ID

2010-03-06 Thread Mayur Nandikar
Thanx to all .

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:36 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Shrikant ji for confirming about the identification of this
 plant.
 Regards
 Tanay

 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:53 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar 
 le...@rediffmail.com wrote:

 It is fruiting Rivea hypocrateriformis. Regards, Shrikant

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  HELLO,
 
  *Date/Time-*
 
  *FEB, 26. 4.30 pm*
 
  *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS*
 
  *Mhaswad Dist. Satara, Maharashtra*
 
  *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
 
  *On the barren Slope somewhat xeric condition along with Acacia*
 
  *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *
 
  *Climber but liana like appreance*
 
  *Height/Length-*
 
  *1-1 1/5 m. in flower*
 
  *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
 
  * *
 
  *Cordate like Kanchan but not too much notched.*
 
  *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
 
  *Not observed but according to photo its solitary cyme*
 
  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 
  *Not observed *
 
  *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*
 
  *Capsule Globose with persistant calyx, Seeds white, with *
 
  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
 
  *Capsule very showy when dry.*
 
  *
  *
 
  Thanx
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Re: [efloraofindia:29003] Re: Request for ID: 070310-AK-1

2010-03-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Dear Tanay, Aarti
The cultivated plant is now more correctly known as Pericallis x hybrida (a
hybrid between P. cruenta and p. lanata)

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 Dear Arati Ji,
 Great to know my attempt was successful and it came into your use.
 Regards
 Tanay
 On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Gurcharan ji and Tanay,
 I'm getting my unidentified flowers identified faster than I imagined!
 Thanks a lot.
 Aarti

 On Mar 7, 9:16 am, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear arati ji,
   this plant is Cineraria cruenta Masson ex L'Hér.{Senecio cruentus
 (Masson
  ex L'Hér.) DC} family asteraceae.
 
  Regards
  Tanay
 
 
 
 
 
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 wrote:
   Cineraria cruenta please
 
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   On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Aarti S. Khale 
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*Date/Time* : 24th and 25th of October, 2008
   *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters... *GPS* :
   *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated
   *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
   *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
   *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
   *Flowers Size* : about 2 inches ... *Colour* : Blue/Purple ...
 *Calyx* :
   ... *Bracts* :
   *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :
 
   *Other Info* :
   *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :
 
   Found these in the plant nursery at SHRIL, Kodaikanal.
   Could someone know help me in identifying them?
   Thanks
   Aarti
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:29008] Cineraria for ID: 070310-AK-2

2010-03-06 Thread tanay bose
Yes, but the hybrid may be different ... It quit hard to enumerate garden
plant as they have so mant hybrid these days.

Regards
tanay
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

  Gurcharan ji and Tanay,
 Would these Cineraria be the same ones?
 These flowers were smaller in size.
 Aarti

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Re: [efloraofindia:29012] Request for ID: 070310-AK-3

2010-03-06 Thread Prashant awale
Looks like *Verbascum* sp. (Scrophulariaceae Family).

best wishes
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  *Date/Time* : 24th of October, 2008
 *Location Place* : Kodaikanal ... *Altitude* : 2100 meters ... *GPS* :
 *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* :
 *Plant Habit* : Herb ... *Height *: small plant ... *Length* :  ...
 *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* :
 *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
 *Flowers Size* : about 1 cm ... *Colour* : yellow ... *Calyx* :  ... *
 Bracts* :
 *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :

 *Other Info* :
 *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :



 At the roadside growing wild.

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