Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
Hi Julien, On Wed, April 29, 2015 17:50, Julien Pauli wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: On Wed, April 29, 2015 15:35, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process. Yeah, actually I didn't think about RMing before. Thus my self-nomination is based on the discussion arguments that my participation could be convenient. Hence so late. With respect to your and others experience, that's why I'm asking. The suggestion for Kalle and me both doing the job - wouldn't we all three then jump over each others heads? Or one could part the tasks so we do it more or less independently (there are sure enough tasks)? Asking as I curretly have a minimal sights of the process, so not quite clear how it would go. Na :-) I'm glad you both volunteer for RMing. Usually, only one guy does all the job, it is better and prevents one jumping onto the other guy's head. But, Sometimes one may be so busy - or have personnal issues - that then it is the second RM that comes over scene and does the job. That's why we are two usually, one master RM that does the job, and one secondary RM that comes to scene when master RM has some problems, or if master RM wonders if it is good to do this or that (then RMs discuss each other and take decision). But obviously, you two can change that process. You can work together at the same time, splitting tasks to do, the only thing is you have to be able to work together smoothly , but as we all are OSS contributors, I guess we all are able to handle that. Also, keep in mind that the release process is REALLY heavy before the GA , and not that heavy once the GA is launched. Preparing Alphas, betas, RCs, NEWS file, UPGRADING, checking for the doc to be synced are hard jobs that take place before the GA, and can take a lot of time. In such period (that is : before the GA), it is usually really better to have two brains and two pairs of hands to do the job. After the GA, don't worry too much, only security issues or BC breaks are to be followed and taken care of, all the other tasks are easy to perform. Also, keep in mind that previous RMs, such as Ferenc or myself , can help you in doing such tasks, feel free to ask, ping, mail, etc... ;-) Julien.Pauli you gave a great extended explanation, thanks for that. As for me - while I can imagine very good working together with Kalle (and that indeed happens from time to time already, more or less), I wouldn't experiment with having 3 RMs, especially not for the a new major, especially not for the erupting PHP7. A smaller team obviously brings better communication and more experience gain for the satellite RM, and that's important for the time after 7.0. Not that for 7.1 there were two half baked RMs :) So maybe it'd make sense to keep the 2-way team. Take one, the other one can then run for the same for 7.1 or later. I'll be ok with any either-or(-or) decision. For my part, I'll be of course able to keep up with the peek times. Regards Anatol -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On 29 April 2015 at 14:21, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Hey Anatol, From my memory of your previous work, you do a lot for the Windows platform? I think it's a huge bonus that one of the RMs has this focus. I expect a large amount of casual testing leading up to GA will be done by people who just want to download on their desktop and try things, and quality Windows builds will help a lot. Many thanks for nominating yourself. Cheers, Leigh.
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 April 2015 at 14:21, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Hey Anatol, From my memory of your previous work, you do a lot for the Windows platform? Yes and not only. Portability at large too, almost all systems (but mac afaict :) I think it's a huge bonus that one of the RMs has this focus. I expect a large amount of casual testing leading up to GA will be done by people who just want to download on their desktop and try things, and quality Windows builds will help a lot. Many thanks for nominating yourself. Cheers, Leigh. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
hi Julien. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: On Wed, April 29, 2015 15:35, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process. Yeah, actually I didn't think about RMing before. Thus my self-nomination is based on the discussion arguments that my participation could be convenient. Hence so late. With respect to your and others experience, that's why I'm asking. The suggestion for Kalle and me both doing the job - wouldn't we all three then jump over each others heads? Or one could part the tasks so we do it more or less independently (there are sure enough tasks)? Asking as I curretly have a minimal sights of the process, so not quite clear how it would go. Na :-) I'm glad you both volunteer for RMing. Usually, only one guy does all the job, it is better and prevents one jumping onto the other guy's head. But, Sometimes one may be so busy - or have personnal issues - that then it is the second RM that comes over scene and does the job. That's why we are two usually, one master RM that does the job, and one secondary RM that comes to scene when master RM has some problems, or if master RM wonders if it is good to do this or that (then RMs discuss each other and take decision). But obviously, you two can change that process. You can work together at the same time, splitting tasks to do, the only thing is you have to be able to work together smoothly , but as we all are OSS contributors, I guess we all are able to handle that. Also, keep in mind that the release process is REALLY heavy before the GA , and not that heavy once the GA is launched. Preparing Alphas, betas, RCs, NEWS file, UPGRADING, checking for the doc to be synced are hard jobs that take place before the GA, and can take a lot of time. In such period (that is : before the GA), it is usually really better to have two brains and two pairs of hands to do the job. After the GA, don't worry too much, only security issues or BC breaks are to be followed and taken care of, all the other tasks are easy to perform. Also, keep in mind that previous RMs, such as Ferenc or myself , can help you in doing such tasks, feel free to ask, ping, mail, etc... ;-) Exactly, why we tried to always have an experienced RM working together with a new one, one of them has to have very good core knowledge (make the whole patch review easier). If anything and to keep the 2 RMs part, I am all for Ferenc and Anatol, a dream RMs team for 7. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
Sounds good too :) Three will have plenty to do very soon On Apr 29, 2015 8:35 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@php.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process.
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process.
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Wed, April 29, 2015 15:35, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process. Yeah, actually I didn't think about RMing before. Thus my self-nomination is based on the discussion arguments that my participation could be convenient. Hence so late. With respect to your and others experience, that's why I'm asking. The suggestion for Kalle and me both doing the job - wouldn't we all three then jump over each others heads? Or one could part the tasks so we do it more or less independently (there are sure enough tasks)? Asking as I curretly have a minimal sights of the process, so not quite clear how it would go. Regards Anatol -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: On Wed, April 29, 2015 15:35, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Anatol Belski anatol@belski.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, April 5, 2015 09:05, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline after the recent discussion on IRC I would like to express the rediness to take on this job. As Kalle is willing to take this role as well, it'd probably make sense to hear what everyone thinks about my proposition. Possibly it could come to an election then. I guess this thread conjuncts with the PHP7 RM one started last year by Kalle. Regards Anatol Thanks for volunteering, albeit I wish you could have spoken a bit sooner, so we avoid the awkward situation. I just wanted to repeat that I previously noted that based on my personal experience with 5.6, I think that having two full time RMs for a major version would be much better. Now that we have two volunteers maybe we could also consider having both of you guys and ofc. I can help with my experience on the RMing and the process. Yeah, actually I didn't think about RMing before. Thus my self-nomination is based on the discussion arguments that my participation could be convenient. Hence so late. With respect to your and others experience, that's why I'm asking. The suggestion for Kalle and me both doing the job - wouldn't we all three then jump over each others heads? Or one could part the tasks so we do it more or less independently (there are sure enough tasks)? Asking as I curretly have a minimal sights of the process, so not quite clear how it would go. Na :-) I'm glad you both volunteer for RMing. Usually, only one guy does all the job, it is better and prevents one jumping onto the other guy's head. But, Sometimes one may be so busy - or have personnal issues - that then it is the second RM that comes over scene and does the job. That's why we are two usually, one master RM that does the job, and one secondary RM that comes to scene when master RM has some problems, or if master RM wonders if it is good to do this or that (then RMs discuss each other and take decision). But obviously, you two can change that process. You can work together at the same time, splitting tasks to do, the only thing is you have to be able to work together smoothly , but as we all are OSS contributors, I guess we all are able to handle that. Also, keep in mind that the release process is REALLY heavy before the GA , and not that heavy once the GA is launched. Preparing Alphas, betas, RCs, NEWS file, UPGRADING, checking for the doc to be synced are hard jobs that take place before the GA, and can take a lot of time. In such period (that is : before the GA), it is usually really better to have two brains and two pairs of hands to do the job. After the GA, don't worry too much, only security issues or BC breaks are to be followed and taken care of, all the other tasks are easy to perform. Also, keep in mind that previous RMs, such as Ferenc or myself , can help you in doing such tasks, feel free to ask, ping, mail, etc... ;-) Julien.Pauli
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@php.net wrote: Hi, bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline I definitely think we should roll a package and get it posted to encourage early testing and feedback. I think we are also more likely to get folks to benchmark against their apps and give us feedback on performance gains and migration challenges which can help us with migration guidelines and tools. In the past we've posted alpha versions at much earlier phases of development. Given that what we currently have in hand is quite good and somewhere in between an alpha (very raw, incomplete) and a beta (mostly feature complete, yet not sufficiently tested) I would opt for either calling it a preview or a potentially even a beta which will get more eyeballs on it. But I don't have a strong opinion besides getting the ball rolling and helping folks get their hands on it. We are posting nightly builds for Debian and Red Hat on php7.zend.com just to make it easier for folks who don't want to self-compile to give it a go but I think even better if we get some downloadable .tar.gz of the sources on php.net and we can always also have some non-nightly builds of the preview/betas we provide for folks who are interested. Thx! Andi
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@php.net wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. Traditionally the newer RM from the previous release stays on, and a new RM is introduced who will remain for the next two releases. So in this case it would be Ferenc + 1. However this is a major release and we obviously have to make sure Ferenc is happy to keep this position. So, Ferenc? How do you feel? :) Do we have any candidates willing to put their name forward as possible second RM? Cheers, Leigh. Hi, I think it would be better to have the RMs selected sooner than later. From my personal experience having an RM who has also has to RM the previous version is a bit sub-optimal, and for a major version it would be better to have two dedicated people who can focus on the 7.0 release only. Having said that I'm willing to take on the role for 7.0 if there are no better options available, but in this case the other RM should be somebody with strong php-src knowledge to compensate for my shortcomings. About the potential volunteers for co-RMing, I remember Kalle explicitly volunteer for 7.0, and I also have some vague recollection seeing both Pierre and Derick mention to villing to RM, but I can be wrong there. If there are others who wanna apply, please speak up, usually there aren't many people to chose from, but I think the more options the better. I fully agree. From A RM point of view, I agree with other here, I could not think of a better person than you as one of the RMs. You did and still do a fantastic job, keeping things up and running, awesome communications, etc. As a 2nd RM, I would like someone with good low level knowledge and have a given objectivity. Anthony would be awesome, now that he is back :) I also agree that branching too early will create some extra work which may be counter productive for now. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Hi, bumping the thread as we should start the release steps (branching out 7.0, tagging the first alpha or more likely beta) if we wanna keep up with https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On 22/03/15 01:38, Leigh wrote: With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. Is there any need to allow commits to master which are targeted beyond the next release? Until master is a stable base for 7.0 the freeze on 'new' features should apply? Any more is not helpful ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@php.net wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. Traditionally the newer RM from the previous release stays on, and a new RM is introduced who will remain for the next two releases. So in this case it would be Ferenc + 1. However this is a major release and we obviously have to make sure Ferenc is happy to keep this position. So, Ferenc? How do you feel? :) Do we have any candidates willing to put their name forward as possible second RM? Cheers, Leigh. Hi, I think it would be better to have the RMs selected sooner than later. From my personal experience having an RM who has also has to RM the previous version is a bit sub-optimal, and for a major version it would be better to have two dedicated people who can focus on the 7.0 release only. Having said that I'm willing to take on the role for 7.0 if there are no better options available, but in this case the other RM should be somebody with strong php-src knowledge to compensate for my shortcomings. About the potential volunteers for co-RMing, I remember Kalle explicitly volunteer for 7.0, and I also have some vague recollection seeing both Pierre and Derick mention to villing to RM, but I can be wrong there. If there are others who wanna apply, please speak up, usually there aren't many people to chose from, but I think the more options the better. I fully agree. From A RM point of view, I agree with other here, I could not think of a better person than you as one of the RMs. You did and still do a fantastic job, keeping things up and running, awesome communications, etc. As a 2nd RM, I would like someone with good low level knowledge and have a given objectivity. Anthony would be awesome, now that he is back :) I also agree that branching too early will create some extra work which may be counter productive for now. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. Traditionally the newer RM from the previous release stays on, and a new RM is introduced who will remain for the next two releases. So in this case it would be Ferenc + 1. However this is a major release and we obviously have to make sure Ferenc is happy to keep this position. So, Ferenc? How do you feel? :) Do we have any candidates willing to put their name forward as possible second RM? Cheers, Leigh. Hi, I think it would be better to have the RMs selected sooner than later. From my personal experience having an RM who has also has to RM the previous version is a bit sub-optimal, and for a major version it would be better to have two dedicated people who can focus on the 7.0 release only. Having said that I'm willing to take on the role for 7.0 if there are no better options available, but in this case the other RM should be somebody with strong php-src knowledge to compensate for my shortcomings. About the potential volunteers for co-RMing, I remember Kalle explicitly volunteer for 7.0, and I also have some vague recollection seeing both Pierre and Derick mention to villing to RM, but I can be wrong there. If there are others who wanna apply, please speak up, usually there aren't many people to chose from, but I think the more options the better.
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On 22 March 2015 at 07:49, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: From A RM point of view, I agree with other here, I could not think of a better person than you as one of the RMs. You did and still do a fantastic job, keeping things up and running, awesome communications, etc. As a 2nd RM, I would like someone with good low level knowledge and have a given objectivity. Anthony would be awesome, now that he is back :) I agree, but I think people need to nominate themselves. I'm totally +1 for Kalle. He's been kicking around for long enough, and as far as I have seen has always been pretty pragmatic. I also agree that branching too early will create some extra work which may be counter productive for now. Alright, I guess I'll feel more comfortable with this when we have our chosen RMs who will say no to sneaky merges :)
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On 22 March 2015 at 13:33, Yannick Komotir ykomo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sorry if I am wrong but why it is not people that started php 7/ng project ? Dmitry, Nikita or Xichen ? Personal opinion: I'd prefer all of these people had more time to work on code, and didn't have to worry about RM duties :)
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
Hi, I am sorry if I am wrong but why it is not people that started php 7/ng project ? Dmitry, Nikita or Xichen ?
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
2015.03.22. 14:33 ezt írta (Yannick Komotir ykomo...@gmail.com): Hi, I am sorry if I am wrong but why it is not people that started php 7/ng project ? Dmitry, Nikita or Xichen ? I'm fairly sure any of those three would have overwhelming support for RMing if they would decide to volunteer. (Personally I was even nagging Nikic in the past to be the next RM but he said he prefers fixing bugs over solving internals arguments which is a far point sometimes).
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. I would branch only in time for the first beta... Similar to what LibreOffice do: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.5#4.5.0_release Rushing to push more features for 7.1 will come a t a cost of testing / stabilizing 7.0. It should be fine to ask people to delay feature suggestions for a little later. Kaplan
Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0 Release Management
Hi Leigh 2015-03-22 2:38 GMT+01:00 Leigh lei...@gmail.com: Hi all, With 7.0 feature freeze in effect, and proposals and RFCs still coming in that are going to target 7.1, I think it's time we branched master and selected a release manager (or two) for 7.0. I expressed sometime last year after we named the release PHP7 that I would like to step in to the role of RM together with someone, and like you said in this case it would most likely be Ferenc (which I'm +1 for him if he would like to). -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
