Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi Christopher:
No problem at all.  You're very welcome
Have a great day.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Thanks Teryl for that, greatly appreciated. I may try their quality
forms and report the annoying virtual cursor issues I, along with
others, are experiencing. Thanks again.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:18:01 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi Christopher:
>
> If you cannot afford JAWS and are using a demo, you can still report
> Suggestions, Comments as well
> as quality suggestions and bugs you find to FS.  However, I do, not think
> they will give free
> technical support if you have not purchased JAWS.
>
> .  The more information they get the better able they will be to make
> JAWS a better product and
> discover incompatibilities with JAWS.
>
> Windows+Insert+F4 is only for when a total loss of speech occurs, and it
> is difficult or impossible
> to recover JAWS without rebooting the computer.  However, a reboot
> provides no diagnostic
> information to assist Freedom Scientific in researching the underlying
> problem.
>
> New keystroke closes JAWS, terminates all related processes, and creates
> a memory
>
> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist FS in
> troubleshooting problems.
>
> The memory dump file is saved to the Settings folder located in the
> following folder: C:\Documents
> and Settings\\ApplicationData\Freedom
> Scientific\JAWS\8.0\Settings\ENU. .  In this
> folder is another folder called, JAWSMemDmp folder. The files in this
> folder are identified by the
> JAWS version and build number.
>
> The memory dump file has diagnostic information that can be used to
> assist FS in diagnosing
> problems.  The more information they have then the better they can tell
> which drivers, programs
> etcetera are causing JAWS problems; so it is just helping them to make a
> better product for us.  The
> key stroke is made Awkward to use so you do not activate it accidentally
> and is, as David said, like
> a last resort.
>
> Below is from FS Web site:
>
>  Contact Freedom Scientific Quality:
>
> :  Freedom Scientific welcomes any suggestions you have that will help
> improve our products and
> provide better service. Please note, however, that we are not
>
> able to respond if you do not provide a valid e-mail address. All fields
> must have information
> entered.
>
> Once you submit this form, your request will be reviewed by the
> responsible parties. Please be sure
> to include as much information as possible.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Quality form URL:
>
>
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=Quality
>
>
>
> To Submit a Suggestion or Commentuse the Freedom Scientific Contact
> Us Form:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=SPSW&JobID=
>
>
>
> If you need, You can try using Technical Support; maybe you will get
> lucky and get someone who will
> help you anyway.
>
> Technical Support Form
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/support_hardware.asp
>
> or call our Director of Technical Support:
>
> Domestic: 800-444-4443, ext. 1062
>
> International: 727-803-8600, ext. 1062
>
> Technical Support Contact Information
>
>
>
> All Products call 1-727-803-8600
>
> Monday - Friday, 8:30 AM - 7 PM, EST
>
> Freedom Scientific Worldwide Contact Information
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/contact.asp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks. However for those who can't afford JAWS but still wish to report
> bugs to FS, can we still do that? I didn't think this would be possible
> since we would have to be registered with them before we can contact
> them to report bugs etc, correct? Thanks.
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:32:08 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Well all I can tell you is that if you have a problem with it, don't 
> > use
> > it or call FS since it was
> > them who implemented it.
> > Seems when FS makes something to help them find out what is causing
> > problems with peoples  computer
> > and jaws, instead of working with them, more just complain and do 
> > nothing
> > Again 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Thanks Teryl for that, greatly appreciated. I may try their quality
forms and report the annoying virtual cursor issues I, along with
others, are experiencing. Thanks again.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:18:01 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi Christopher:
> 
> If you cannot afford JAWS and are using a demo, you can still report
> Suggestions, Comments as well 
> as quality suggestions and bugs you find to FS.  However, I do, not think
> they will give free 
> technical support if you have not purchased JAWS.
> 
> .  The more information they get the better able they will be to make
> JAWS a better product and 
> discover incompatibilities with JAWS.
> 
> Windows+Insert+F4 is only for when a total loss of speech occurs, and it
> is difficult or impossible 
> to recover JAWS without rebooting the computer.  However, a reboot
> provides no diagnostic 
> information to assist Freedom Scientific in researching the underlying
> problem.
> 
> New keystroke closes JAWS, terminates all related processes, and creates
> a memory
> 
> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist FS in
> troubleshooting problems.
> 
> The memory dump file is saved to the Settings folder located in the
> following folder: C:\Documents 
> and Settings\\ApplicationData\Freedom
> Scientific\JAWS\8.0\Settings\ENU. .  In this 
> folder is another folder called, JAWSMemDmp folder. The files in this
> folder are identified by the 
> JAWS version and build number.
> 
> The memory dump file has diagnostic information that can be used to
> assist FS in diagnosing 
> problems.  The more information they have then the better they can tell
> which drivers, programs 
> etcetera are causing JAWS problems; so it is just helping them to make a
> better product for us.  The 
> key stroke is made Awkward to use so you do not activate it accidentally
> and is, as David said, like 
> a last resort.
> 
> Below is from FS Web site:
> 
>  Contact Freedom Scientific Quality:
> 
> :  Freedom Scientific welcomes any suggestions you have that will help
> improve our products and 
> provide better service. Please note, however, that we are not
> 
> able to respond if you do not provide a valid e-mail address. All fields
> must have information 
> entered.
> 
> Once you submit this form, your request will be reviewed by the
> responsible parties. Please be sure 
> to include as much information as possible.
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> Quality form URL:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=Quality
> 
> 
> 
> To Submit a Suggestion or Commentuse the Freedom Scientific Contact
> Us Form:
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=SPSW&JobID=
> 
> 
> 
> If you need, You can try using Technical Support; maybe you will get
> lucky and get someone who will 
> help you anyway.
> 
> Technical Support Form
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/support_hardware.asp
> 
> or call our Director of Technical Support:
> 
> Domestic: 800-444-4443, ext. 1062
> 
> International: 727-803-8600, ext. 1062
> 
> Technical Support Contact Information
> 
> 
> 
> All Products call 1-727-803-8600
> 
> Monday - Friday, 8:30 AM - 7 PM, EST
> 
> Freedom Scientific Worldwide Contact Information
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/contact.asp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> 
> 
> Thanks. However for those who can't afford JAWS but still wish to report
> bugs to FS, can we still do that? I didn't think this would be possible
> since we would have to be registered with them before we can contact
> them to report bugs etc, correct? Thanks.
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:32:08 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Well all I can tell you is that if you have a problem with it, don't use
> > it or call FS since it was
> > them who implemented it.
> > Seems when FS makes something to help them find out what is causing
> > problems with peoples  computer
> > and jaws, instead of working with them, more just complain and do nothing
> > Again I am just reporting a new jaws keystroke from freedom scientific;
> > if you have a problem I
> > suggest you call them and discuss your problems with it.rather than  just
> > complaining on the list.
> > I did not make this key nor am I a employee of FS.  Fortunately it works
> > fine for me, but if you
> > have problems then report it to FS so they can make their product better
> > for all of us.
> > make their product better. .
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Ricque
Well, you certainly covered that one well!
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi Ricque:
Your quite welcome.  I knew there must be an alternative if I searched hard 
enough for it. 
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Thanks Terrill,
I've never actually used a laptop, so it's interesting to hear that some
don't have a Windows key.
At least they have made a provision for this.
Thanks again,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


True, but I found out that FS has made a keystroke for those who use a
laptop without a windows key,
as long as you have the laptop layout set in basic options, so there's no
need to remap the keys if
you don't have a windows key. :
To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for this
facility has been provided,
which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
(assuming the laptop layout has been selected).

Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


So, for the average user, the answer would still be, no. smile
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt
key but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard
Scan Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi Ricque:
Your quite welcome.  I knew there must be an alternative if I searched hard 
enough for it. 
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Thanks Terrill,
I've never actually used a laptop, so it's interesting to hear that some
don't have a Windows key.
At least they have made a provision for this.
Thanks again,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


True, but I found out that FS has made a keystroke for those who use a
laptop without a windows key,
as long as you have the laptop layout set in basic options, so there's no
need to remap the keys if
you don't have a windows key. :
To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for this
facility has been provided,
which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
(assuming the laptop layout has been selected).

Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


So, for the average user, the answer would still be, no. smile
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt
key but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard
Scan Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, th

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws usesforlaptops; no need to remap

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi Dale:
Your very welcome.  I knew if I researched enough I would find something.  I 
just could not see FS 
making a keystroke that has no equivalent for laptop users without a windows 
key, it did not make 
since to me.  Anyway glad I found it and you don't have to mess with remapping 
your keyboard. 

HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws 
usesforlaptops; no need to remap


Oh cool!

Thank you Terrill. There are a couple of situations I run into occasionally
where Jaws just dies. Nothing will bring it around until closing the entire
computer down when suddenly Jaws announces logging off and down she goes and
there isn't any way to know what might have brought the episode about.
Hopefully this will help or at least negate the need to kill everything to
get computer access back.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws uses
forlaptops; no need to remap


>
>
> Hi Dale:
> Well some good news I think.  I found the below information.  You will not
> have to remap your
> keyboard at all it seems.  FS has provided a way around using the windows
> key with a laptop as long
> as you're using the laptop layout in the basic options of jaws.  Read
> below:
> To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for emergency
> recovery has been
> provided (not part of JAWS by default) which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
> (assuming the laptop layout has been selected).
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
> yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an
> alt key but a windows key.
> You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
> In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard
> Scan Codes for Windows 2k
> and XP.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx
>
> Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced
> registry editing.
> the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or
> a regular USB keyboard
> that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
> HTH
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
> example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
> Microsoft applications?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype DaleLeavens
> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Hi David;
>> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
>> laptop with limited keys and
>> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look
>> up
>> the correct list of
>> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
>> want to remap.  My example
>> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
>> act as the windows key you
>> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
>> find the right Scancode
>> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds
>> Regular Email:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> --
>>
>> - Original Message -

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Ricque
Thanks Terrill,
I've never actually used a laptop, so it's interesting to hear that some 
don't have a Windows key.
At least they have made a provision for this.
Thanks again,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


True, but I found out that FS has made a keystroke for those who use a 
laptop without a windows key,
as long as you have the laptop layout set in basic options, so there's no 
need to remap the keys if
you don't have a windows key. :
To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for this 
facility has been provided,
which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
(assuming the laptop layout has been selected).

Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


So, for the average user, the answer would still be, no. smile
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt
key but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard
Scan Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi Christopher:

If you cannot afford JAWS and are using a demo, you can still report 
Suggestions, Comments as well 
as quality suggestions and bugs you find to FS.  However, I do, not think they 
will give free 
technical support if you have not purchased JAWS.

.  The more information they get the better able they will be to make JAWS a 
better product and 
discover incompatibilities with JAWS.

Windows+Insert+F4 is only for when a total loss of speech occurs, and it is 
difficult or impossible 
to recover JAWS without rebooting the computer.  However, a reboot provides no 
diagnostic 
information to assist Freedom Scientific in researching the underlying problem.

New keystroke closes JAWS, terminates all related processes, and creates a 
memory

dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist FS in 
troubleshooting problems.

The memory dump file is saved to the Settings folder located in the following 
folder: C:\Documents 
and Settings\\ApplicationData\Freedom 
Scientific\JAWS\8.0\Settings\ENU. .  In this 
folder is another folder called, JAWSMemDmp folder. The files in this folder 
are identified by the 
JAWS version and build number.

The memory dump file has diagnostic information that can be used to assist FS 
in diagnosing 
problems.  The more information they have then the better they can tell which 
drivers, programs 
etcetera are causing JAWS problems; so it is just helping them to make a better 
product for us.  The 
key stroke is made Awkward to use so you do not activate it accidentally and 
is, as David said, like 
a last resort.

Below is from FS Web site:

 Contact Freedom Scientific Quality:

:  Freedom Scientific welcomes any suggestions you have that will help improve 
our products and 
provide better service. Please note, however, that we are not

able to respond if you do not provide a valid e-mail address. All fields must 
have information 
entered.

Once you submit this form, your request will be reviewed by the responsible 
parties. Please be sure 
to include as much information as possible.

Thank You.

Quality form URL:



http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=Quality



To Submit a Suggestion or Commentuse the Freedom Scientific Contact Us Form:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/Contact_Us_Form.asp?Mail_Subject=SPSW&JobID=



If you need, You can try using Technical Support; maybe you will get lucky and 
get someone who will 
help you anyway.

Technical Support Form

http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/support_hardware.asp

or call our Director of Technical Support:

Domestic: 800-444-4443, ext. 1062

International: 727-803-8600, ext. 1062

Technical Support Contact Information



All Products call 1-727-803-8600

Monday - Friday, 8:30 AM - 7 PM, EST

Freedom Scientific Worldwide Contact Information

http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_about/contact.asp











Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Thanks. However for those who can't afford JAWS but still wish to report
bugs to FS, can we still do that? I didn't think this would be possible
since we would have to be registered with them before we can contact
them to report bugs etc, correct? Thanks.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:32:08 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Well all I can tell you is that if you have a problem with it, don't use
> it or call FS since it was
> them who implemented it.
> Seems when FS makes something to help them find out what is causing
> problems with peoples  computer
> and jaws, instead of working with them, more just complain and do nothing
> Again I am just reporting a new jaws keystroke from freedom scientific;
> if you have a problem I
> suggest you call them and discuss your problems with it.rather than  just
> complaining on the list.
> I did not make this key nor am I a employee of FS.  Fortunately it works
> fine for me, but if you
> have problems then report it to FS so they can make their product better
> for all of us.
> make their product better. .
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Well for the fun of it I've tried the keystroke, and not only did JAWS
> not reload automatically, it also 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws uses forlaptops; no need to remap

2007-06-20 Thread Dale Leavens
Oh cool!

Thank you Terrill. There are a couple of situations I run into occasionally 
where Jaws just dies. Nothing will bring it around until closing the entire 
computer down when suddenly Jaws announces logging off and down she goes and 
there isn't any way to know what might have brought the episode about. 
Hopefully this will help or at least negate the need to kill everything to 
get computer access back.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws uses 
forlaptops; no need to remap


>
>
> Hi Dale:
> Well some good news I think.  I found the below information.  You will not 
> have to remap your
> keyboard at all it seems.  FS has provided a way around using the windows 
> key with a laptop as long
> as you're using the laptop layout in the basic options of jaws.  Read 
> below:
> To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for emergency 
> recovery has been
> provided (not part of JAWS by default) which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
> (assuming the laptop layout has been selected).
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
> yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an 
> alt key but a windows key.
> You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
> In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard 
> Scan Codes for Windows 2k
> and XP.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx
>
> Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced 
> registry editing.
> the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or 
> a regular USB keyboard
> that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
> HTH
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
> example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
> Microsoft applications?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype DaleLeavens
> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Hi David;
>> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
>> laptop with limited keys and
>> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look 
>> up
>> the correct list of
>> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
>> want to remap.  My example
>> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
>> act as the windows key you
>> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
>> find the right Scancode
>> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds
>> Regular Email:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> --
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
>> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
>> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
>> where there was a key
>> mapping utility included.
>>
>> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
>> party mapping utility or by
>> editin

Re: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
If I might point out although much of what you say is true, the fact is this 
is not the forum for such posts. So please continue this thread else where 
and not on my list.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "marcatony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers


Hi
   It seems to me that some people are so critical of everyone.  For
example, if someone comments that something is dificult for them, others
accuse them of whining.  What is wrong with mentioning things you don't
like?  Is it that we as blind persons have been conditioned to appreciate
anything which is given to us, no matter what kind of condition it might be
in.  It seems to me that some of the keyboard keystrokes would take a
contortionist to accomplish.  This doesn't mean I am complaining, its just
stating what I think of a certain shortcut.  On the other hand it doesn't
mean, at some point, I won't try to use it either.  Please don't be so
judgemental.

Marsha Anderson



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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
True, but I found out that FS has made a keystroke for those who use a laptop 
without a windows key, 
as long as you have the laptop layout set in basic options, so there's no need 
to remap the keys if 
you don't have a windows key. :
To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for this facility 
has been provided, 
which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
(assuming the laptop layout has been selected).

Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


So, for the average user, the answer would still be, no. smile
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt
key but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard
Scan Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>
> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
> that key should not be
> modified.
>
> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This
> value
> is of type REG_BINARY.
>
> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do
> it:
>
> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save i

[JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke, found the key jaws uses for laptops; no need to remap

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds


Hi Dale:
Well some good news I think.  I found the below information.  You will not have 
to remap your
keyboard at all it seems.  FS has provided a way around using the windows key 
with a laptop as long
as you're using the laptop layout in the basic options of jaws.  Read below:
To assist users of laptop computers, an additional keystroke for emergency 
recovery has been
provided (not part of JAWS by default) which is Shift+Caps Lock+F12
(assuming the laptop layout has been selected).


Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt key 
but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan 
Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced 
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a 
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>
> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
> that key should not be
> modified.
>
> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This
> value
> is of type REG_BINARY.
>
> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do
> it:
>
> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
> to something like,
> "altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
> want to import it into your
> registry.
>
> S

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
It will work with JAWS 8 only.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:14:06 -0400, "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> hi will this key stroke work in jaws 7.0 as well as 8? from Mich Verrier 
> from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> 
> 
> > Stuart, if you saw the original post, it said that it was introduced in
> > JAWS 8. So no is the short answer.
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:39 +0100, "stewartross"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw
> >> 6.0?
> >> from stewart ross
> >> email me at
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> text me on
> >> 07875319558
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ge.ge.:
> >> > This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just
> >> > unload jaws, there's already a
> >> > key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws 
> >> > locks
> >> > up and will not speak
> >> > even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again
> >> > with a hot key.  Many times
> >> > when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting 
> >> > another
> >> > version of jaws will not
> >> > speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is
> >> > intended to be used.  Not when
> >> > jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason
> >> > and not when you can get
> >> > jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
> >> > Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
> >> > Warmest Regards,
> >> > Terrill Reynolds
> >> > Regular Email:
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> >> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message - 
> >> > From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
> >> > I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
> >> > I have 7 on here  too.
> >> > So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
> >> >
> >> > PEACE
> >> > John Carvalho
> >> > - Original Message - 
> >> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> >> >> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> >> >> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> >> >> pence worth.
> >> >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> >>> Hi:
> >> >>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> >> >>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
> >> >>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
> >> >>> running
> >> >>> again without having to
> >> >>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> >> >>> only.  Just thought it was
> >> >>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>
> >> >>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
> >> >>> The
> >> >>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
> >> >>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> >> >>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> >> >>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
> >> >>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> >> >>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Warmest Regards,
> >> >>> Terrill Reynolds
> >> >>> Regular Email:
> >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> >> >>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> >> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com
> >> >>> Address for the list archives:
> >> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to
> >> >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
> >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the 
> >> >>> subject
> >> >>> or body of a blank message to:
> >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> Use t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers

2007-06-20 Thread Rick Harmon
Amen brother.  I've seen this complaining on two different lists now.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers


Some of the shortcuts are difficult to implement for a reason.  Namely so 
you do not accidentally
hit the key by mistake when it's not meant for anything but extreme 
emergencies.
If you just take the time to read the help, one can avoid getting into 
situations which one would
not be if they took the time to learn what a certain key is for.
As for complaining on the list, it will get you know where.  If one wants to 
complain then complain
to the maker of the product and not to someone who is trying to help you.
It is my understanding this list is about helping people and not for 
complaining about something you
don't like instead of asking for help.
When some one tries to help out another and gets nothing but complaints in 
return then that's just
plain rude.
The list should be about helping others with problems and not complaining 
about everything they do
not like.  There are other forums for that as well as it serves no purpose 
since the real people who
need to hear complaints is the product makers and not people who are just 
trying to help others.
You ask others not to be judgmental, but I'm sorry but your message is about 
as judgmental as I've
ever read.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "marcatony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers


Hi
   It seems to me that some people are so critical of everyone.  For
example, if someone comments that something is dificult for them, others
accuse them of whining.  What is wrong with mentioning things you don't
like?  Is it that we as blind persons have been conditioned to appreciate
anything which is given to us, no matter what kind of condition it might be
in.  It seems to me that some of the keyboard keystrokes would take a
contortionist to accomplish.  This doesn't mean I am complaining, its just
stating what I think of a certain shortcut.  On the other hand it doesn't
mean, at some point, I won't try to use it either.  Please don't be so
judgemental.

Marsha Anderson



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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Ricque
So, for the average user, the answer would still be, no. smile
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt 
key but a windows key.
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard 
Scan Codes for Windows 2k
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced 
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a 
regular USB keyboard
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
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- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>
> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
> that key should not be
> modified.
>
> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This
> value
> is of type REG_BINARY.
>
> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do
> it:
>
> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
> to something like,
> "altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
> want to import it into your
> registry.
>
> Start copying below:
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
>
> "Scancode
> Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00
>
> End copying.
>
> Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.
>
> Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to
> activate it. The mappings
> stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These
> mappings cannot be set to
> work differently depending on the current user.
>
> Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.
>
>
>
> http://w

Re: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Some of the shortcuts are difficult to implement for a reason.  Namely so you 
do not accidentally 
hit the key by mistake when it's not meant for anything but extreme emergencies.
If you just take the time to read the help, one can avoid getting into 
situations which one would 
not be if they took the time to learn what a certain key is for.
As for complaining on the list, it will get you know where.  If one wants to 
complain then complain 
to the maker of the product and not to someone who is trying to help you.
It is my understanding this list is about helping people and not for 
complaining about something you 
don't like instead of asking for help.
When some one tries to help out another and gets nothing but complaints in 
return then that's just 
plain rude.
The list should be about helping others with problems and not complaining about 
everything they do 
not like.  There are other forums for that as well as it serves no purpose 
since the real people who 
need to hear complaints is the product makers and not people who are just 
trying to help others.
You ask others not to be judgmental, but I'm sorry but your message is about as 
judgmental as I've 
ever read.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "marcatony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers


Hi
   It seems to me that some people are so critical of everyone.  For
example, if someone comments that something is dificult for them, others
accuse them of whining.  What is wrong with mentioning things you don't
like?  Is it that we as blind persons have been conditioned to appreciate
anything which is given to us, no matter what kind of condition it might be
in.  It seems to me that some of the keyboard keystrokes would take a
contortionist to accomplish.  This doesn't mean I am complaining, its just
stating what I think of a certain shortcut.  On the other hand it doesn't
mean, at some point, I won't try to use it either.  Please don't be so
judgemental.

Marsha Anderson



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws company developed JAVA applications.

2007-06-20 Thread john melia
thanks a lot we are using at work sun java that may be different our tech 
even used java bridge with it and it still would not talk on all parts of 
the screens.  When I originally sent the post I did not know what kind of 
java they were using.
- Original Message - 
From: "Cohn, Jonathan C [IT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws company developed JAVA applications.


With a little bit of care,  a java program can be made jaws friendly.

There are several hits from Google on the IBM web site including:
IBM Guidelines for Writing Accessible Applications Using 100% Pure Java(tm)

At http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/java/snsjavag.html
Table of contents:
1.0 Introduction
2.0 Essential Accessibility Programming Practices
3.0 Java Foundation Classes (JFC) - A Foundation for Accessibility
4.0 Using JFC to Build Accessible Applications
5.0 Building Custom Accessible Components
6.0 The Accessibility API
7.0 Java Development Tool Designers
8.0 Testing for Accessibility
9.0 Documentation, Online Information and Help
10.0 Appendix
11.0 Feedback
12.0 Changes from Version 2.1
table end
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john melia
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and customer services

I have been working for Federal Express for 14 years, in the beginning the
blind reps who were employed at FedEx could do the same job as the sighted
workers and I might add did it better, we have the numbers to prove it.
Well over time the company made changes to the system and we were not able
to get the screen reader  to read the screens.
It has now gotten to the point that we cannot do the job we were once hired
for, I and another blind rep thanks to our call center are doing another job
but that will soon be automated and it is a job that is not in the customer
service department.
I have a few questions for folks on the list
1 what kind of customer service job are you doing
2 when doing the job are you accessing the web?
3  who set up the system for you and who who wrote the scripts for you.?
Our company is using some sort of java that cannot be read by a screen
reader.
If you like you can write me off list that way it won't clutter up the list.
the e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you know anyone who is not on the list but works in a similar place ask
them to drop me a line as well.

Thank you very much we have around 10 blind folks and your answers may save
there jobs or at least point the company in a new direction.
We now have human resources involved and believe me they don't have a clue.


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[JAWS-Users] Complaining about Complainers

2007-06-20 Thread marcatony
Hi
   It seems to me that some people are so critical of everyone.  For 
example, if someone comments that something is dificult for them, others 
accuse them of whining.  What is wrong with mentioning things you don't 
like?  Is it that we as blind persons have been conditioned to appreciate 
anything which is given to us, no matter what kind of condition it might be 
in.  It seems to me that some of the keyboard keystrokes would take a 
contortionist to accomplish.  This doesn't mean I am complaining, its just 
stating what I think of a certain shortcut.  On the other hand it doesn't 
mean, at some point, I won't try to use it either.  Please don't be so 
judgemental.

Marsha Anderson 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Dale Leavens
Well now I am pretty well used to the laptop keyboard and like it except for 
that inconvenience. carrying around a second keyboard doesn't enhance 
portability much.

There are a few useless keys though, PrintScreen,  ScrollLock, Pause for 
example which don't seem to do anything for anyone.

Thanks.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi:
> yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an 
> alt key but a windows key.
> You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
> In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard 
> Scan Codes for Windows 2k
> and XP.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx
>
> Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced 
> registry editing.
> the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or 
> a regular USB keyboard
> that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
> HTH
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
> example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
> Microsoft applications?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype DaleLeavens
> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Hi David;
>> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
>> laptop with limited keys and
>> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look 
>> up
>> the correct list of
>> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
>> want to remap.  My example
>> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
>> act as the windows key you
>> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
>> find the right Scancode
>> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds
>> Regular Email:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> --
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
>> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
>> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
>> where there was a key
>> mapping utility included.
>>
>> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
>> party mapping utility or by
>> editing the registry.
>>
>> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
>> key
>> (E0 5B)
>>
>> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard 
>> for
>> your laptop.
>>
>> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
>> how.
>>
>> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
>> registry key:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>>
>> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, 
>> but
>> that key should not be
>> modified.
>>
>> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This
>> value
>> is of type REG_BINARY.
>>
>> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do
>> it:
>>
>> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename 
>> it
>> to something like,
>> "altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
>> want to import it into your
>> registry.
>>
>> Start copying below:
>>
>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentC

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi:
Only if you have the JAWS 7.10 build 500 update.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


hi will this key stroke work in jaws 7.0 as well as 8? from Mich Verrier
from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Stuart, if you saw the original post, it said that it was introduced in
> JAWS 8. So no is the short answer.
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:39 +0100, "stewartross"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw
>> 6.0?
>> from stewart ross
>> email me at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> text me on
>> 07875319558
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> > Ge.ge.:
>> > This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just
>> > unload jaws, there's already a
>> > key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws
>> > locks
>> > up and will not speak
>> > even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again
>> > with a hot key.  Many times
>> > when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting
>> > another
>> > version of jaws will not
>> > speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is
>> > intended to be used.  Not when
>> > jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason
>> > and not when you can get
>> > jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
>> > Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
>> > Warmest Regards,
>> > Terrill Reynolds
>> > Regular Email:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> > --
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> > Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
>> > I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
>> > I have 7 on here  too.
>> > So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
>> >
>> > PEACE
>> > John Carvalho
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> >> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> >> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> >> pence worth.
>> >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >>> Hi:
>> >>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>> >>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>> >>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
>> >>> running
>> >>> again without having to
>> >>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>> >>> only.  Just thought it was
>> >>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
>> >>> The
>> >>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>> >>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>> >>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>> >>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>> >>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>> >>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>> >>>
>> >>> Warmest Regards,
>> >>> Terrill Reynolds
>> >>> Regular Email:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> >>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>> >>> Address for the list archives:
>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To post to this group, send email to
>> >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi Stewart:
it was introduced as part of the JAWS 7.10 build 500 update, , and is also in 
jaws 8.  Those are the 
only versions which support it.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "stewartross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw
6.0?
from stewart ross
email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
text me on
07875319558

- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Ge.ge.:
> This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just
> unload jaws, there's already a
> key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws locks
> up and will not speak
> even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again
> with a hot key.  Many times
> when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting another
> version of jaws will not
> speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is
> intended to be used.  Not when
> jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason
> and not when you can get
> jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
> Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
> I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
> I have 7 on here  too.
> So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
>
> PEACE
> John Carvalho
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> pence worth.
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Hi:
>>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
>>> running
>>> again without having to
>>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>>> only.  Just thought it was
>>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>>> 
>>>
>>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
>>> The
>>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> Terrill Reynolds
>>> Regular Email:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>>> Address for the list archives:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> To post to this group, send email to
>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject
>>> or body of a blank message to:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
>>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the
>>> following address:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>>
>>
>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>> Address for the list archives:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> To post to this group, send email to
>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
>> [

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi:
yes it would unfortunately.  The alt key would no longer function as an alt key 
but a windows key. 
You can map another key though.  I just used the alt key as an example.
In order to pick another key Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan 
Codes for Windows 2k 
and XP.

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx

Just substitute the key you wish to use; however this is kind of advanced 
registry editing.
the most simple solution is to purchase either a wireless USB keyboard or a 
regular USB keyboard 
that already has the windows keys on it and use it with your laptop.
HTH
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>
> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
> that key should not be
> modified.
>
> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This
> value
> is of type REG_BINARY.
>
> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do
> it:
>
> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
> to something like,
> "altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
> want to import it into your
> registry.
>
> Start copying below:
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
>
> "Scancode
> Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00
>
> End copying.
>
> Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.
>
> Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to
> activate it. The mappings
> stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These
> mappings cannot be set to
> work differently depending on the current user.
>
> Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] CA internet security suite

2007-06-20 Thread Flor Lynch
Chris,

A number of JAWS users would have emailed Computer Associates over the years 
concerning issues they had, and mentioned JAWS.  (I'm thinking particularly 
of the CA Etrust EZ antivirus software, which *used to be* very accessible 
to JAWS.  Also, Freedom Scientific and the others will sometimes approach 
mainstream companies in attempting to get their softwares to co-operate.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] CA internet security suite


My goodness, a mainstream company knows about JAWS? How's that!
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:30:12 -0400, "Lenny  McHugh"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> You may find this interesting. I sent a question to CA internet security
> suite
> support. This is the replyHi Lenny,
> Thank you for contacting CA Consumer Support. My name is Martin and I
> will
> be assisting you on this issue
> Yes CA internet security suite is speech friendly.You may need to add
> the Jaws software onto the firewall list.
> Clickon the link below to view instructions to configure CA firewall.
> http://tinyurl.com/y9tkub
>
> Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> http://www.jaws-users.com
> Address for the list archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> To post to this group, send email to
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject
> or body of a blank message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Use the following form in order to contact the management team
> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the
> following address:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype name chrishallsworth7266
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Ricque
Hi Mich,
As was stated in an earlier post, No.
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


hi will this key stroke work in jaws 7.0 as well as 8? from Mich Verrier
from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Stuart, if you saw the original post, it said that it was introduced in
> JAWS 8. So no is the short answer.
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:39 +0100, "stewartross"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw
>> 6.0?
>> from stewart ross
>> email me at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> text me on
>> 07875319558
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> > Ge.ge.:
>> > This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just
>> > unload jaws, there's already a
>> > key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws
>> > locks
>> > up and will not speak
>> > even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again
>> > with a hot key.  Many times
>> > when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting
>> > another
>> > version of jaws will not
>> > speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is
>> > intended to be used.  Not when
>> > jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason
>> > and not when you can get
>> > jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
>> > Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
>> > Warmest Regards,
>> > Terrill Reynolds
>> > Regular Email:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> > --
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> > Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
>> > I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
>> > I have 7 on here  too.
>> > So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
>> >
>> > PEACE
>> > John Carvalho
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> >> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> >> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> >> pence worth.
>> >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >>> Hi:
>> >>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>> >>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>> >>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
>> >>> running
>> >>> again without having to
>> >>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>> >>> only.  Just thought it was
>> >>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
>> >>> The
>> >>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>> >>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>> >>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>> >>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>> >>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>> >>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>> >>>
>> >>> Warmest Regards,
>> >>> Terrill Reynolds
>> >>> Regular Email:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> >>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>> >>> Address for the list archives:
>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To post to this group, send email to
>> >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the
>> >>> subject
>> >>> or body of a blank message to:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team
>> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
>> >>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Mich
hi will this key stroke work in jaws 7.0 as well as 8? from Mich Verrier 
from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Stuart, if you saw the original post, it said that it was introduced in
> JAWS 8. So no is the short answer.
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:39 +0100, "stewartross"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw
>> 6.0?
>> from stewart ross
>> email me at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> text me on
>> 07875319558
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> > Ge.ge.:
>> > This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just
>> > unload jaws, there's already a
>> > key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws 
>> > locks
>> > up and will not speak
>> > even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again
>> > with a hot key.  Many times
>> > when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting 
>> > another
>> > version of jaws will not
>> > speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is
>> > intended to be used.  Not when
>> > jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason
>> > and not when you can get
>> > jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
>> > Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
>> > Warmest Regards,
>> > Terrill Reynolds
>> > Regular Email:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> > --
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> > Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
>> > I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
>> > I have 7 on here  too.
>> > So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
>> >
>> > PEACE
>> > John Carvalho
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> >> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> >> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> >> pence worth.
>> >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >>> Hi:
>> >>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>> >>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>> >>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
>> >>> running
>> >>> again without having to
>> >>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>> >>> only.  Just thought it was
>> >>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
>> >>> The
>> >>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>> >>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>> >>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>> >>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>> >>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>> >>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>> >>>
>> >>> Warmest Regards,
>> >>> Terrill Reynolds
>> >>> Regular Email:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> >>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
>> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com
>> >>> Address for the list archives:
>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To post to this group, send email to
>> >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the 
>> >>> subject
>> >>> or body of a blank message to:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team
>> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
>> >>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to 
>> >>> the
>> >>> following address:
>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Christopher Hallsworth
>> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>> >>
>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] CA internet security suite

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
My goodness, a mainstream company knows about JAWS? How's that!
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:30:12 -0400, "Lenny  McHugh"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> You may find this interesting. I sent a question to CA internet security
> suite 
> support. This is the replyHi Lenny,
> Thank you for contacting CA Consumer Support. My name is Martin and I
> will
> be assisting you on this issue 
> Yes CA internet security suite is speech friendly.You may need to add
> the Jaws software onto the firewall list.
> Clickon the link below to view instructions to configure CA firewall.
> http://tinyurl.com/y9tkub
> 
> Lenny http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Stuart, if you saw the original post, it said that it was introduced in
JAWS 8. So no is the short answer.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:39 +0100, "stewartross"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw 
> 6.0?
> from stewart ross
> email me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> text me on
> 07875319558
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> 
> 
> > Ge.ge.:
> > This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just 
> > unload jaws, there's already a
> > key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws locks 
> > up and will not speak
> > even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again 
> > with a hot key.  Many times
> > when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting another 
> > version of jaws will not
> > speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is 
> > intended to be used.  Not when
> > jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason 
> > and not when you can get
> > jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
> > Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill Reynolds
> > Regular Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > --
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >
> >
> > Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
> > I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
> > I have 7 on here  too.
> > So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
> >
> > PEACE
> > John Carvalho
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >
> >
> >> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> >> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> >> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> >> pence worth.
> >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>> Hi:
> >>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> >>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
> >>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it 
> >>> running
> >>> again without having to
> >>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> >>> only.  Just thought it was
> >>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. 
> >>> The
> >>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
> >>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> >>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> >>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
> >>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> >>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> >>>
> >>> Warmest Regards,
> >>> Terrill Reynolds
> >>> Regular Email:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> >>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com
> >>> Address for the list archives:
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >>> To post to this group, send email to
> >>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
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> >>> or body of a blank message to:
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> >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
> >>> If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the
> >>> following address:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Christopher Hallsworth
> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> >>
> >>
> >> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> >> http://www.jaws-users.com
> >> Address for the list archives:
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cute FTP Help

2007-06-20 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Mr. Wan,

I'm using 4.2, which might be the source of all my problems.

Thanks for the heads up.

Victor

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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Thanks. However for those who can't afford JAWS but still wish to report
bugs to FS, can we still do that? I didn't think this would be possible
since we would have to be registered with them before we can contact
them to report bugs etc, correct? Thanks.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:32:08 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Well all I can tell you is that if you have a problem with it, don't use
> it or call FS since it was 
> them who implemented it.
> Seems when FS makes something to help them find out what is causing
> problems with peoples  computer 
> and jaws, instead of working with them, more just complain and do nothing
> Again I am just reporting a new jaws keystroke from freedom scientific;
> if you have a problem I 
> suggest you call them and discuss your problems with it.rather than  just
> complaining on the list. 
> I did not make this key nor am I a employee of FS.  Fortunately it works
> fine for me, but if you 
> have problems then report it to FS so they can make their product better
> for all of us.
> make their product better. .
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
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> --
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> 
> 
> Well for the fun of it I've tried the keystroke, and not only did JAWS
> not reload automatically, it also mesed up my virtual cursor so had to
> restart Firefox, so guess there's a bug or two somewhere? It certainly
> does its job, but with the above issues it can be annoying if you were
> reading a web page, then JAWS suddenly stopped talking, so you pressed
> that keystroke only to find that JAWS didn't reload automatically, and,
> when you do reload it manually you then find your virtual cursor is
> blank and there's no way around that but to restart your browser.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:24:51 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi:
> > Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> > again, so a conformation
> > box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear
> > it anyway.  In addition JAWS
> > automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> > with speech.  Jaws unloads
> > and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> > restart jaws.
> > It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> > to reboot to get jaws
> > talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> > combination.
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill Reynolds
> > Regular Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > --
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "JAWS-Users" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> >
> >
> > Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> > user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> > but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> > pence worth.
> > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > Hi:
> > > I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> > > emergency recovery yet, but I just
> > > did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it running
> > > again without having to
> > > reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> > > only.  Just thought it was
> > > neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> > > 
> > >
> > > INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. The
> > > new keystroke closes JAWS,
> > > terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> > > dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> > > Support. (Note: The keystroke
> > > will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> > > issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> > >
> > > Warmest Regards,
> > > Terrill Reynolds
> > > Regular Email:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> > > http://www.jaws-users.com
> > > Address for the list archives:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > > To post to this g

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Before the advent of the 104 keyboard, CONTROL-ESCAPE Performed the
function now performed by the Windows key.

Andy
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Annette
Carr
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

What type of notebook computer do you have ?  I've never come across a
notebook or laptop that did not have a windows key.  

Most sighted people don't know what the windows key is.  Just tell them
to look for the key with the windows flag on it, or some people call it
the windows icon.

Annette
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale
Leavens
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

Hi,

Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have
a Windows key?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message -
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws 
> talking again, so a conformation box really would not be of much use 
> since you would not be able to hear it

> anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; 
> restarting with speech.  Jaws unloads and then automatically restarts 
> with speech, you don't have to manually restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option 
> but to reboot to get jaws talking again; that's why they call it a 
> "emergency recovery " key combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL Messenger: terrill36 
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>


--
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the

> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,

> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two 
> pence worth.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Hi:
>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for 
>> emergency recovery yet, but I just did and it works great when jaws 
>> looses speech in order to get it running again without having to 
>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8

>> only.  Just thought it was neat an wanted to share with anyone who 
>> has not discovered it yet.
>> 
>>
>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.

>> INSERT+The
>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory dump file. The

>> diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical Support. 
>> (Note: The keystroke will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) 
>> After issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds
>> Regular Email:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL Messenger: terrill36

>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>>


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>>
>>
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> Christopher Hallsworth
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] the programs page

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
I'm about to do a good size upload so there may be a minor interruption in 
service for a few minutes or so, but nothing to worry about. Just thought you 
might like to know is all. 
David Ferrin 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread stewartross
hi does this new key stoke for getting jaws speeking again, work with jfw 
6.0?
from stewart ross
email me at
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text me on
07875319558

- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Ge.ge.:
> This is to be used when jaws locks up and stops speaking, not to just 
> unload jaws, there's already a
> key stroke for that, "insert + F4".  This is for the times when jaws locks 
> up and will not speak
> even when you try and unload it with insert + F4 and restart jaws again 
> with a hot key.  Many times
> when one version of jaws crashes and stops speaking even starting another 
> version of jaws will not
> speak and you will have to reboot.  That is when this keystroke is 
> intended to be used.  Not when
> jaws is speaking, not when you just want to unload jaws for some reason 
> and not when you can get
> jaws back speaking by unloading and restarting it in the regular way.
> Hence the name "emergency recovery key".
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "JOHN O CARVALHO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Right on with that I still like the the jaws exit to do if I had to.
> I  have the control plus alt & 8 to bring my jaws back.
> I have 7 on here  too.
> So if I need to go into 7 just have to use control,alt,& 7.
>
> PEACE
> John Carvalho
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> pence worth.
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Hi:
>>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it 
>>> running
>>> again without having to
>>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>>> only.  Just thought it was
>>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>>> 
>>>
>>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. 
>>> The
>>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> Terrill Reynolds
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>>
>>
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>
>
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> To post 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Dale Leavens
Hi,

Would this mapping interfere with the usual function of that ALT key? For 
example, using it for ALT-O to bring up the format menu in a number of 
Microsoft applications?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi David;
> When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a 
> laptop with limited keys and
> learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up 
> the correct list of
> Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you 
> want to remap.  My example
> is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys 
> act as the windows key you
> will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to 
> find the right Scancode
> Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
> personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
> David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
> where there was a key
> mapping utility included.
>
> In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
> party mapping utility or by
> editing the registry.
>
> You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows 
> key
> (E0 5B)
>
> **I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
> your laptop.
>
> However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is 
> how.
>
> The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
> registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
>
> IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
> that key should not be
> modified.
>
> In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This 
> value
> is of type REG_BINARY.
>
> To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do 
> it:
>
> Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
> to something like,
> "altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
> want to import it into your
> registry.
>
> Start copying below:
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]
>
> "Scancode
> Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00
>
> End copying.
>
> Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.
>
> Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to
> activate it. The mappings
> stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These
> mappings cannot be set to
> work differently depending on the current user.
>
> Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have a
> Windows key?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype DaleLeavens
> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Hi:
>> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
>> again, so a conformation
>> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear 
>> it
>> anyway.  In addition JAWS
>> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
>> with speech.  Jaws unloads
>> and t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Cute FTP Help

2007-06-20 Thread Mr. Juan
Hi victor:
what version of the prog are you using?
2 possible solutions might be to make sure your jfw is set to read all file 
extentions.
I am using an older version which I personally have found it works better then 
the new ones. it is 5.0
hth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor Gouveia 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:38 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cute FTP Help


  Hi Folks,

  I've started using Cute FTP for transferring files to and from different 
servers I'm on.

  When I first installed the program, I found it to be accessible, in terms of 
viewing the folders on the remote site or server I'm looking at.

  Since then, on subsequent attempts, I can see the local folders on my 
computer, but the folders and files on the remote host reads only as one of 
such and such.

  Does anyone know if there are scripts I can download or use with Jaws  7.0 
that will allow me more accessibility with the program, or if there are certain 
view settings I have to adopt for better functionality?

  I am also using Windows XP home, if that means anything.

  Any help would be appreciated.

  Victor
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[JAWS-Users] Cute FTP Help

2007-06-20 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Folks,

I've started using Cute FTP for transferring files to and from different 
servers I'm on.

When I first installed the program, I found it to be accessible, in terms of 
viewing the folders on the remote site or server I'm looking at.

Since then, on subsequent attempts, I can see the local folders on my computer, 
but the folders and files on the remote host reads only as one of such and such.

Does anyone know if there are scripts I can download or use with Jaws  7.0 that 
will allow me more accessibility with the program, or if there are certain view 
settings I have to adopt for better functionality?

I am also using Windows XP home, if that means anything.

Any help would be appreciated.

Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
Let's put it this way, I'll code your earlier message for posting without 
changing any of it's contents because I've not tried doing it myself and I 
have always got the impression you are a guy who is on the ball in such 
matters. Thanks for the instructions for all concerned.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi David;
When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a 
laptop with limited keys and
learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up 
the correct list of
Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you 
want to remap.  My example
is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys act 
as the windows key you
will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to 
find the right Scancode
Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:

Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
where there was a key
mapping utility included.

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
party mapping utility or by
editing the registry.

You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows key
(E0 5B)

**I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
your laptop.

However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is how.

The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout

IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
that key should not be
modified.

In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This value
is of type REG_BINARY.

To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do it:

Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
to something like,
"altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
want to import it into your
registry.

Start copying below:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]

"Scancode
Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00

End copying.

Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.

Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to
activate it. The mappings
stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These
mappings cannot be set to
work differently depending on the current user.

Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.



http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx





Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have a
Windows key?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear it
> anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Hi David;
When I was studying for my doctoring in computer science I had to use a laptop 
with limited keys and 
learned this in a class on the NT registry.  Note that you have to look up the 
correct list of 
Keyboard Scan Codes  to use with the Scancode Map values of the keys you want 
to remap.  My example 
is only to make the alt key work as the windows key.  To make other keys act as 
the windows key you 
will have to go to the URL I gave at the bottom of my message in order to find 
the right Scancode 
Map value  for the keys you want to remap.
Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I
personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:

Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME
where there was a key
mapping utility included.

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third
party mapping utility or by
editing the registry.

You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows key
(E0 5B)

**I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for
your laptop.

However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is how.

The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout

IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but
that key should not be
modified.

In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This value
is of type REG_BINARY.

To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do it:

Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it
to something like,
"altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you
want to import it into your
registry.

Start copying below:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]

"Scancode
Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00

End copying.

Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.

Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to
activate it. The mappings
stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These
mappings cannot be set to
work differently depending on the current user.

Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.



http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx





Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have a
Windows key?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear it
> anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks, but it would be nice 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
If this is all correct I'll post it up on tips and tricks even if I 
personally don't understand it without a lot of studying.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi:

Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it used to be in win 95, 98 and ME 
where there was a key
mapping utility included.

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, this must be done either through a third 
party mapping utility or by
editing the registry.

You will have to Map the right ctrl-key (code E0 1D) to the left windows key 
(E0 5B)

**I think the easiest solution is to purchase an External USB keyboard for 
your laptop.

However, if you want to try to map a key to be the windows key below is how.

The scan code mappings for Windows 2K and XP are stored in the following 
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout

IMPORTANT: There is also a Keyboard Layouts key under the Control key, but 
that key should not be
modified.

In the Keyboard Layout key, the Scancode Map value must be added. This value 
is of type REG_BINARY.

To make the Alt key to remap to become a Windows key. Here is how to do it:

Copy the below lines in note pad, and save it as a text file and rename it 
to something like,
"altEquilsWinKey.reg". Then enter on it and answer yes when asked if you 
want to import it into your
registry.

Start copying below:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout]

"Scancode 
Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,5B,E0,38,E0,00,00,00,00

End copying.

Now save it and give it the extension of .reg.

Once the map is stored in the registry, a system reboot is required to 
activate it. The mappings
stored in the registry work at system level and apply to all users. These 
mappings cannot be set to
work differently depending on the current user.

Below is a web page with a list of Keyboard Scan Codes for and Windows XP.



http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/Scancode.mspx





Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Hi,

Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have a
Windows key?

Thanks.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.


- Original Message - 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear it
> anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> pence worth.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Hi:
>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it running
>> again without having to
>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>> only.  Just thought it was
>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>> 
>>
>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. The
>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>> Support. (Note: The keystrok

Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster Scripts Finally Installed

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
I love it when a plan comes together, which is a quote from the A Team by 
the way. Glad to hear everything is all right at the Thomas house this 
morning, kind of starts my day out on a high note as the saying goes.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:23 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster Scripts Finally Installed


Hi David,

I took another crack at it just now and am happy to report success
this time.  Both Spyware Blaster and the scripts are installed and
seem to be running as advertised.

You were right-the scripts do make using the program much easier.
It is doable without them if you are patient, but it is a breeze with
them and your clear instructions for using the program.

I was beginning to think this project was jinxed since it seemed
that everything that could possibly go wrong with it went wrong, but,
together, we got it done.

Margaret


Previously, I wrote:


David,

I just tried downloading the scripts again and it worked fine
here, too.

I'll take a break before I try to install them.

Thanks,

Margaret

"David Ferrin" wrote:


I just tested out the links and they are working fine on the scripts
page.
Try again and get back to me either way please.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: "jaws-users" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Downloading Spyware Blaster Scripts
Re:Spyware
Blaster


Hi David,

I wanted to try to get the scripts for JAWS 5 and up to work the
other day and was unable to download them at all.  I thought you might
be working on the page and tried again a few minutes ago, but got the
same "Getting file information" message I got the other with no chance
to say where I wanted the scripts downloaded to.  I tried Insert F-7
and got the same result.  I thought it might be a save target thing,
but I'm not doing it right if it is.  I tried downloading another
script as a test to see if there might be a problem with that
particular script, but was unable to download that one, too.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


The short answer is yes. You must be catching up with your caffeine
consumption just fine because JAWS was speeding along reading your
message.
Just kidding actually, I always have it speaking that fast.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


David,

Thanks for updating the web site about the SpywareBlaster scripts.
My Internet connection went down for 2 and a half days shortly after I
posted my question and I've been seriously behind with my caffeine
consumption since then and haven't tried re-installing the scripts.  I
think I got SpywareBlaster configured properly without them, but for
when I'm more alert do they really make it more accessible like the
ones for Ad-Aware do?

Margaret

"David Ferrin" wrote:


I've replaced the old file with the new offering from the link
provided
below. I've also just added a third version of skype to the programs
page
along with a direct link to the page where the most recent scripts are
housed. Skype is such a moving target I sure can't keep up with it.
Also I
made the change on the scripts page to reflect which versions of jaws
go
with which version of spy ware blaster scripts. With luck there
shouldn't be
any further confusion.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: "jaws-users" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


Hi All,

I'm having a harder time getting Spyware Blaster installed and
configured than I expected.

I downloaded the file on our page and got an error message that
the setup file had become corrupted when I tried to install the
program on my XP Home with SP2 machine and JAWS 7.0:


Error
The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the
program.graphic 580

I followed the links to download a copy from the manufacturer's
site and got a good copy at:

http://www.download.com/SpywareBlaster/3000-8022-10196637.html?part=dl-SpywareBl&subj=dl&tag=button

I think I have everything protected, but want to install the
scripts since the program seems to be a bit different than the 3.3
version I remembered and it has been a very long time since I used
that one.  The scripts page lists a script for JAWS 5 and another one
for other versions of JAWS.  Am I correct that "other versions" means
versions of JAWS below 5.0?

Thanks,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread David Ferrin
I believe it is sort of a last resort kind of thing, not something to be 
played with.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Well for the fun of it I've tried the keystroke, and not only did JAWS
not reload automatically, it also mesed up my virtual cursor so had to
restart Firefox, so guess there's a bug or two somewhere? It certainly
does its job, but with the above issues it can be annoying if you were
reading a web page, then JAWS suddenly stopped talking, so you pressed
that keystroke only to find that JAWS didn't reload automatically, and,
when you do reload it manually you then find your virtual cursor is
blank and there's no way around that but to restart your browser.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:24:51 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear
> it anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> pence worth.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi:
> > I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> > emergency recovery yet, but I just
> > did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it 
> > running
> > again without having to
> > reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> > only.  Just thought it was
> > neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> > 
> >
> > INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. 
> > The
> > new keystroke closes JAWS,
> > terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> > dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> > Support. (Note: The keystroke
> > will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> > issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill Reynolds
> > Regular Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > --
> >
> >
> > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com
> > Address for the list archives:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > To post to this group, send email to
> > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject
> > or body of a blank message to:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Use the following form in order to contact the management team
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
> > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the
> > following address:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Christopher Hallsworth
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>
>
> Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> http://www.jaws-users.com
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> http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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> to:
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
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> following address:
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>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Terrill Reynolds
Well all I can tell you is that if you have a problem with it, don't use it or 
call FS since it was 
them who implemented it.
Seems when FS makes something to help them find out what is causing problems 
with peoples  computer 
and jaws, instead of working with them, more just complain and do nothing
Again I am just reporting a new jaws keystroke from freedom scientific; if you 
have a problem I 
suggest you call them and discuss your problems with it.rather than  just 
complaining on the list. 
I did not make this key nor am I a employee of FS.  Fortunately it works fine 
for me, but if you 
have problems then report it to FS so they can make their product better for 
all of us.
make their product better. .

Warmest Regards,
Terrill Reynolds
Regular Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AOL Messenger: terrill36
Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
--

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Well for the fun of it I've tried the keystroke, and not only did JAWS
not reload automatically, it also mesed up my virtual cursor so had to
restart Firefox, so guess there's a bug or two somewhere? It certainly
does its job, but with the above issues it can be annoying if you were
reading a web page, then JAWS suddenly stopped talking, so you pressed
that keystroke only to find that JAWS didn't reload automatically, and,
when you do reload it manually you then find your virtual cursor is
blank and there's no way around that but to restart your browser.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:24:51 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear
> it anyway.  In addition JAWS
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> pence worth.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi:
> > I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> > emergency recovery yet, but I just
> > did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it running
> > again without having to
> > reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> > only.  Just thought it was
> > neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> > 
> >
> > INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. The
> > new keystroke closes JAWS,
> > terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> > dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> > Support. (Note: The keystroke
> > will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> > issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill Reynolds
> > Regular Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > --
> >
> >
> > Visit the JAWS Users List home page at:
> > http://www.jaws-users.com
> > Address for the list archives:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > To post to this group, send email to
> > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject
> > or body of a blank message to:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Use the following form in order to contact the management team
> > http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php
> > If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the
> > following address:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Christopher Hallsworth
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sk

[JAWS-Users] jaws company developed JAVA applications.

2007-06-20 Thread Cohn, Jonathan C [IT]
With a little bit of care,  a java program can be made jaws friendly.   
 

There are several hits from Google on the IBM web site including:
IBM Guidelines for Writing Accessible Applications Using 100% Pure Java(tm)

At http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/java/snsjavag.html
Table of contents:
1.0 Introduction   
2.0 Essential Accessibility Programming Practices   
3.0 Java Foundation Classes (JFC) - A Foundation for Accessibility   
4.0 Using JFC to Build Accessible Applications   
5.0 Building Custom Accessible Components   
6.0 The Accessibility API   
7.0 Java Development Tool Designers   
8.0 Testing for Accessibility   
9.0 Documentation, Online Information and Help   
10.0 Appendix   
11.0 Feedback   
12.0 Changes from Version 2.1 
table end
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john melia
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and customer services

I have been working for Federal Express for 14 years, in the beginning the 
blind reps who were employed at FedEx could do the same job as the sighted 
workers and I might add did it better, we have the numbers to prove it. 
Well over time the company made changes to the system and we were not able 
to get the screen reader  to read the screens.
It has now gotten to the point that we cannot do the job we were once hired 
for, I and another blind rep thanks to our call center are doing another job 
but that will soon be automated and it is a job that is not in the customer 
service department.
I have a few questions for folks on the list
1 what kind of customer service job are you doing
2 when doing the job are you accessing the web?
3  who set up the system for you and who who wrote the scripts for you.?
Our company is using some sort of java that cannot be read by a screen 
reader.
If you like you can write me off list that way it won't clutter up the list.
the e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you know anyone who is not on the list but works in a similar place ask 
them to drop me a line as well.

Thank you very much we have around 10 blind folks and your answers may save 
there jobs or at least point the company in a new direction.
We now have human resources involved and believe me they don't have a clue. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8

2007-06-20 Thread Mukthar Khan
Hi Richard,  

Thanks for the info

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricque
Sent: 20 June 2007 01:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8

Hi Mukthar,
Yes, In fact Adobe 8 will work with earlier versions of Jaws as well.
I'm useing it with Jaws 6.2
HTH,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mukthar Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8


Hi guys,

Does the latest version of JAWS support adobe reader 8.

kind regards
Khan
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[JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster Scripts Finally Installed

2007-06-20 Thread Margaret Thomas
Hi David,

I took another crack at it just now and am happy to report success 
this time.  Both Spyware Blaster and the scripts are installed and 
seem to be running as advertised.

You were right-the scripts do make using the program much easier. 
It is doable without them if you are patient, but it is a breeze with 
them and your clear instructions for using the program.

I was beginning to think this project was jinxed since it seemed 
that everything that could possibly go wrong with it went wrong, but, 
together, we got it done.

Margaret


Previously, I wrote:


David,

I just tried downloading the scripts again and it worked fine
here, too.

I'll take a break before I try to install them.

Thanks,

Margaret

"David Ferrin" wrote:


I just tested out the links and they are working fine on the scripts
page.
Try again and get back to me either way please.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: "jaws-users" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem Downloading Spyware Blaster Scripts
Re:Spyware
Blaster


Hi David,

I wanted to try to get the scripts for JAWS 5 and up to work the
other day and was unable to download them at all.  I thought you might
be working on the page and tried again a few minutes ago, but got the
same "Getting file information" message I got the other with no chance
to say where I wanted the scripts downloaded to.  I tried Insert F-7
and got the same result.  I thought it might be a save target thing,
but I'm not doing it right if it is.  I tried downloading another
script as a test to see if there might be a problem with that
particular script, but was unable to download that one, too.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


The short answer is yes. You must be catching up with your caffeine
consumption just fine because JAWS was speeding along reading your
message.
Just kidding actually, I always have it speaking that fast.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


David,

Thanks for updating the web site about the SpywareBlaster scripts.
My Internet connection went down for 2 and a half days shortly after I
posted my question and I've been seriously behind with my caffeine
consumption since then and haven't tried re-installing the scripts.  I
think I got SpywareBlaster configured properly without them, but for
when I'm more alert do they really make it more accessible like the
ones for Ad-Aware do?

Margaret

"David Ferrin" wrote:


I've replaced the old file with the new offering from the link
provided
below. I've also just added a third version of skype to the programs
page
along with a direct link to the page where the most recent scripts are
housed. Skype is such a moving target I sure can't keep up with it.
Also I
made the change on the scripts page to reflect which versions of jaws
go
with which version of spy ware blaster scripts. With luck there
shouldn't be
any further confusion.
David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To: "jaws-users" 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Spyware Blaster


Hi All,

I'm having a harder time getting Spyware Blaster installed and
configured than I expected.

I downloaded the file on our page and got an error message that
the setup file had become corrupted when I tried to install the
program on my XP Home with SP2 machine and JAWS 7.0:


Error
The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the
program.graphic 580

I followed the links to download a copy from the manufacturer's
site and got a good copy at:

http://www.download.com/SpywareBlaster/3000-8022-10196637.html?part=dl-SpywareBl&subj=dl&tag=button

I think I have everything protected, but want to install the
scripts since the program seems to be a bit different than the 3.3
version I remembered and it has been a very long time since I used
that one.  The scripts page lists a script for JAWS 5 and another one
for other versions of JAWS.  Am I correct that "other versions" means
versions of JAWS below 5.0?

Thanks,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8

2007-06-20 Thread Ricque
Hi Mukthar,
Yes, In fact Adobe 8 will work with earlier versions of Jaws as well.
I'm useing it with Jaws 6.2
HTH,
Richard Justice
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8


Hi guys,

Does the latest version of JAWS support adobe reader 8.

kind regards
Khan
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Simple answer: yes.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:44:29 +0200, "Mukthar Khan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi guys,
>  
> Does the latest version of JAWS support adobe reader 8.
>  
> kind regards 
> Khan 
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[JAWS-Users] Adobe reader 8

2007-06-20 Thread Mukthar Khan
Hi guys,
 
Does the latest version of JAWS support adobe reader 8.
 
kind regards 
Khan 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Flor Lynch
Or, do they have an FN key that can be used in conjunction with another key 
to produce the desired?
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From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


Wow, now I have yet another reason why I've avoided ThinkPads all of these
years.

It is my understanding that there are utility programs out there that will
let you re-assign a control key or Alt key to be a Windows key.  However,
you should know that there has been problems with getting these utilities to
work.

Annette


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

IBM ThinkPad series 40 but I think all of the IBM ThinkPad computers don't
have a Windows key or a Logo key.


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>From: "Annette Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke


> What type of notebook computer do you have ?  I've never come across a
> notebook or laptop that did not have a windows key.
>
> Most sighted people don't know what the windows key is.  Just tell them to
> look for the key with the windows flag on it, or some people call it the
> windows icon.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you know a way to do this on a notebook computer which does not have a
> Windows key?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>
>
>> Hi:
>> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
>> again, so a conformation
>> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear
>> it
>
>> anyway.  In addition JAWS
>> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
>> with speech.  Jaws unloads
>> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
>> restart jaws.
>> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
>> to reboot to get jaws
>> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
>> combination.
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds
>> Regular Email:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>>
>

> --
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "JAWS-Users" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
>>
>>
>> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
>> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
>> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
>> pence worth.
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Hi:
>>> I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
>>> emergency recovery yet, but I just
>>> did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it
>>> running
>>> again without having to
>>> reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
>>> only.  Just thought it was
>>> neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
>>> 
>>>
>>> INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery.
>>> The
>>> new keystroke closes JAWS,
>>> terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
>>> dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
>>> Support. (Note: The keystroke
>>> will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
>>> issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> Terrill Reynolds
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>>> AOL Messenger: terrill36
>>> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
>>>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Dale,

I've owned three ThinkPads in my time, and all of them had a Windows key.

It's usually the third key from the left of the control key on the left hand 
side of the keyboard.

The series is as follows:  Control, followed by the function key, followed 
by the Windows key, then the alt key,, spacebar, alt again, then the 
applications key and another control key.

Some do come with an extra windows key on the right hand side, but it would 
depend on the series of notebook and screen size you have.

Hope this helps.

Victor 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well for the fun of it I've tried the keystroke, and not only did JAWS
not reload automatically, it also mesed up my virtual cursor so had to
restart Firefox, so guess there's a bug or two somewhere? It certainly
does its job, but with the above issues it can be annoying if you were
reading a web page, then JAWS suddenly stopped talking, so you pressed
that keystroke only to find that JAWS didn't reload automatically, and,
when you do reload it manually you then find your virtual cursor is
blank and there's no way around that but to restart your browser.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:24:51 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi:
> Well it is mostly for when you loose speech and can not get jaws talking
> again, so a conformation 
> box really would not be of much use since you would not be able to hear
> it anyway.  In addition JAWS 
> automatically restarts it's self after issuing the keystroke; restarting
> with speech.  Jaws unloads 
> and then automatically restarts with speech, you don't have to manually
> restart jaws.
> It is mostly for times when you loose speech and have no other option but
> to reboot to get jaws 
> talking again; that's why they call it a "emergency recovery " key
> combination.
> Warmest Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds
> Regular Email:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL Messenger: terrill36
> Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> --
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JAWS-Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new JAWS keystroke
> 
> 
> Thanks, but it would be nice if a confirmation box appeared asking the
> user if they're really sure they want to do this. I could do this now,
> but I will lose speech immediately without being warned. Just my two
> pence worth.
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:54:15 -0400, "Terrill Reynolds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi:
> > I don't know if anyone has discovered this new JAWS keystroke for
> > emergency recovery yet, but I just
> > did and it works great when jaws looses speech in order to get it running
> > again without having to
> > reboot.  I think it is a new key stroke introduced in version 7 and 8
> > only.  Just thought it was
> > neat an wanted to share with anyone who has not discovered it yet.
> > 
> >
> > INSERT+WINDOWS Key+F4 is a new JAWS keystroke for emergency recovery. The
> > new keystroke closes JAWS,
> > terminates all related processes, and creates a memory
> > dump file. The diagnostic information can be used to assist Technical
> > Support. (Note: The keystroke
> > will not work at the Windows Log In screen.) After
> > issuing this command, you can restart JAWS to regain speech.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Terrill Reynolds
> > Regular Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > AOL Messenger: terrill36
> > Yahoo! Messenger: terrillreynolds
> > --
> >
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