Re: [JAWS-Users] Hi all, is not a good subject line folks
Let's make it a little more relevant. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "inthaneelf" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hi all, hi, pdf format can be just fine depending on what you want to do with it and how it was made. its good for sending forms, but we can't fill them out on our computers like some folks can, so its partially good for this, though you can (most times) prepare a answer sheet, print the form and someone can swiftly fill it in for you using the sheet you made to go with it. many articles are "downloaded" from sites in .pdf format now a days and I can usually read them the second time or more with little problem as long as they were readable on the website. and many documents that are written in some form of text editor all the way up to word (who has an automatic add in now) and translated to pdf is readable and often can be translated back into text by adobe reader if you wish it in an editable format. its when they either lock the thing up tighter than a chastity belt, or make a pdf from images, and/or turn off the accessibility features and then lock it and password it that they become a major pain in the hind quarters, and this is where password removal tools and OCR programs like Kurzweil, openbook, or for the more thrifty Abby fine reader are hopefully able to decipher the things into something we can use (if its passworded, the OCR programs can't process it, so a little cheat and I'm off and running~) hope this clarifies things, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Mick Du Buisson" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hi all, > I've never sent a msg before, so bare with me, if I get thinks wrong. I > thought PDF wasn't very condusive for par and blind people. Please give > me > more info. Mick dubo scouse.. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Hi all,
hi, pdf format can be just fine depending on what you want to do with it and how it was made. its good for sending forms, but we can't fill them out on our computers like some folks can, so its partially good for this, though you can (most times) prepare a answer sheet, print the form and someone can swiftly fill it in for you using the sheet you made to go with it. many articles are "downloaded" from sites in .pdf format now a days and I can usually read them the second time or more with little problem as long as they were readable on the website. and many documents that are written in some form of text editor all the way up to word (who has an automatic add in now) and translated to pdf is readable and often can be translated back into text by adobe reader if you wish it in an editable format. its when they either lock the thing up tighter than a chastity belt, or make a pdf from images, and/or turn off the accessibility features and then lock it and password it that they become a major pain in the hind quarters, and this is where password removal tools and OCR programs like Kurzweil, openbook, or for the more thrifty Abby fine reader are hopefully able to decipher the things into something we can use (if its passworded, the OCR programs can't process it, so a little cheat and I'm off and running~) hope this clarifies things, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Mick Du Buisson" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hi all, I've never sent a msg before, so bare with me, if I get thinks wrong. I thought PDF wasn't very condusive for par and blind people. Please give me more info. Mick dubo scouse.. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
by messing up the formatting of the thumb and/or externel drive, then everything on it is gone, I've had it happen once to me, and know of around six other cases during my time on the assorted lists i assist on! inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Norman King" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Yes I know. But how can you lose data if its already been copied? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb The operative word is yet. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "Norman King" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Hi. You should be fine as long as you wait about 30 seconds after the copy has completed. I never lost data that way and I never used the eject option. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: That also works very well for me. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
mariea, you can get a simular effect to shutting down your computer and unplugging the drive by putting the comp in sleep mode and turning the drive off. i've also found that unless the drive was activly formatted if you have the indexing feature turned off you can usually get a disconnect by using the system tray "safely remove hardware" option take care, elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: That also works very well for me. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
Yes I know. But how can you lose data if its already been copied? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb The operative word is yet. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "Norman King" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Hi. You should be fine as long as you wait about 30 seconds after the copy has completed. I never lost data that way and I never used the eject option. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: > That also works very well for me. > > > David Ferrin > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones that mind don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > I recently did it this way.. > > I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I > also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on > it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. > > - Original Message - > From: "jim" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > > 1. Go to computer, press enter. > 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. > 3. press application key. > 4. Press the letter j. > 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. > 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. > I hope this helps... > Jim: > > I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. > The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. > > God bless: > > GO BUCKS!!! > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
The operative word is yet. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "Norman King" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Hi. You should be fine as long as you wait about 30 seconds after the copy has completed. I never lost data that way and I never used the eject option. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: > That also works very well for me. > > > David Ferrin > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones that mind don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > I recently did it this way.. > > I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I > also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on > it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. > > - Original Message - > From: "jim" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > > 1. Go to computer, press enter. > 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. > 3. press application key. > 4. Press the letter j. > 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. > 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. > I hope this helps... > Jim: > > I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. > The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. > > God bless: > > GO BUCKS!!! > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
Hi. You should be fine as long as you wait about 30 seconds after the copy has completed. I never lost data that way and I never used the eject option. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: > That also works very well for me. > > > David Ferrin > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones that mind don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > I recently did it this way.. > > I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I > also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on > it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. > > - Original Message - > From: "jim" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > > 1. Go to computer, press enter. > 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. > 3. press application key. > 4. Press the letter j. > 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. > 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. > I hope this helps... > Jim: > > I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. > The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. > > God bless: > > GO BUCKS!!! > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
Thanks. Will do. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 3:11 PM, David Ferrin wrote: If that is what you have to do then I suggest turning off your system first. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: That also works very well for me. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
If that is what you have to do then I suggest turning off your system first. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. - Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: > That also works very well for me. > > > David Ferrin > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones > that mind don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > I recently did it this way.. > > I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I > also > hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a > sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. > > - Original Message - > From: "jim" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb > > > 1. Go to computer, press enter. > 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. > 3. press application key. > 4. Press the letter j. > 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. > 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. > I hope this helps... > Jim: > > I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. > The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. > > God bless: > > GO BUCKS!!! > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
Thumb drives aren't a problem. However, when trying to eject my 1T external drive, the eject option is not available in Windows Explorer. Additionally when trying to eject through the system tray I'm told drive E is not available. Unhappily, I end up eventually just disconnecting it from the PC. So far so good, knock on wood. Smile. Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 6/13/2012 12:59 PM, David Ferrin wrote: That also works very well for me. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
That also works very well for me. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
I recently did it this way.. I was in window's explorer with focus on my drive which is "F", then I also hit the applications key and arrowed down to eject and entered on it, a sound was given and jaws told me the drive was safe to remove. - Original Message - From: "jim" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb 1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] need help on how to safely remove USB thumb
1. Go to computer, press enter. 2. Highlight the usb drive you want to safely remove, do not open it. 3. press application key. 4. Press the letter j. 5. Your computer will say, It is safe to remove the selected drive. 6. Now, just pull out the USB drive. I hope this helps... Jim: I've LearnedThat life is like a roll of toilet Paper. The Closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. God bless: GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
Hi. I agree with you that large files can be a problem. That's one thing that I like about kurzwiel. If you could get the document in kes format that's what I would do. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file it depends on what is meant here by OCR. It should not be images or pictures of the text in the file, as that will be unreadable to you (or to us), requiring conversion to present text by our own OCR program. . perhaps he should convert it into text, or into Microsoft word format. large PDF's (and generally very large files to be read) are a problem for us, however we slice them. - Original Message - From: "brad" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file >I spoke to the gentleman that created this pdf last night and he said >he can > send me the document in o c r instead. Wil this benefit me? > > -Original Message- >>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor > Lynch > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:37 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > > There's also the issue of whether the pdf was made accessibly or not. > (it takes much longer to resove/OCR a poorly formatted pdf.) If people > are > referring to pages while discussing the pdf, then you can use the Go > to Page > Feature in Adobe Reader - ctrl-shift-n, and then type the page number > and > press enter. > > - Original Message - >>From: "Steve" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:30 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > > >> Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles >> largish >> documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into >> preferences >> and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. >> >> If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open >> Book >> or >> Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer >> respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command >> and >> select whichever one is applicable as your printer. >> >> The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table >> conversion >> doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of >> mental >> interpolation. >> >> Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. >> >> >> Steve >> Lansing, MI >> - Original Message - >>>From: brad >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file >> >> >> I am on our home owners association and every month the management >> company >> sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I >> can >> read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get >> held up >> on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it >> gets >> very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list >> of key >> commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this >> document >> rather then being weighed down by cement boots. >> >> >> >> I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could >> anyone >> from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send >> them >> this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it >> more >> easily. >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
Flor has a point, You should ask the person if they could send it to you in either a word document or text. The document is not likely produced in pdf format but rather saved in pdf format. I see that all the time these days. I think persons feel it is better to save in pdf than protecting a document. So if the person could send it to you in its native format it would likely be more usable. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: June 13, 2012 10:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file it depends on what is meant here by OCR. It should not be images or pictures of the text in the file, as that will be unreadable to you (or to us), requiring conversion to present text by our own OCR program. . perhaps he should convert it into text, or into Microsoft word format. large PDF's (and generally very large files to be read) are a problem for us, however we slice them. - Original Message - From: "brad" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file >I spoke to the gentleman that created this pdf last night and he said >he can > send me the document in o c r instead. Wil this benefit me? > > -Original Message- >>From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor > Lynch > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:37 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > > There's also the issue of whether the pdf was made accessibly or not. > (it takes much longer to resove/OCR a poorly formatted pdf.) If people > are > referring to pages while discussing the pdf, then you can use the Go > to Page > Feature in Adobe Reader - ctrl-shift-n, and then type the page number > and > press enter. > > - Original Message - >>From: "Steve" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:30 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > > >> Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles >> largish >> documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into >> preferences >> and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. >> >> If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open >> Book >> or >> Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer >> respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command >> and >> select whichever one is applicable as your printer. >> >> The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table >> conversion >> doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of >> mental >> interpolation. >> >> Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. >> >> >> Steve >> Lansing, MI >> - Original Message - >>>From: brad >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file >> >> >> I am on our home owners association and every month the management >> company >> sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I >> can >> read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get >> held up >> on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it >> gets >> very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list >> of key >> commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this >> document >> rather then being weighed down by cement boots. >> >> >> >> I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could >> anyone >> from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send >> them >> this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it >> more >> easily. >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
Brad, The Kurzweil Virtual Printer doesn't "PRINT" the document. In essence, what it does is virtually recognize the document by placing each page on a virtual scanner and recognizing it. Therefore, when it is done, you have a document that has the same number of pages as the regular document. If there are some preface pages, then you may need to re-number subsequent pages to match what your cohorts are reading, but if they just take everything in order, then you can proceed from page to page. But, you are not generating a printed copy, you are just accessing the .pdf. When you have it in Kurzweil, you can use the Kurzweil search capabilities if you need to find specific text strings. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: brad To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I have kirswell but don't use it all that much. I don't want to print the document I just want to follow along while they do during the meeting. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles largish documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into preferences and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open Book or Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command and select whichever one is applicable as your printer. The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table conversion doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of mental interpolation. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: brad To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I am on our home owners association and every month the management company sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I can read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get held up on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it gets very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list of key commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this document rather then being weighed down by cement boots. I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could anyone from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send them this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it more easily. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
it depends on what is meant here by OCR. It should not be images or pictures of the text in the file, as that will be unreadable to you (or to us), requiring conversion to present text by our own OCR program. . perhaps he should convert it into text, or into Microsoft word format. large PDF's (and generally very large files to be read) are a problem for us, however we slice them. - Original Message - From: "brad" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I spoke to the gentleman that created this pdf last night and he said he can send me the document in o c r instead. Wil this benefit me? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file There's also the issue of whether the pdf was made accessibly or not. (it takes much longer to resove/OCR a poorly formatted pdf.) If people are referring to pages while discussing the pdf, then you can use the Go to Page Feature in Adobe Reader - ctrl-shift-n, and then type the page number and press enter. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles largish documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into preferences and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open Book or Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command and select whichever one is applicable as your printer. The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table conversion doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of mental interpolation. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: brad To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I am on our home owners association and every month the management company sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I can read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get held up on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it gets very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list of key commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this document rather then being weighed down by cement boots. I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could anyone from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send them this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it more easily. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] thunderbird update failed
I have thunderbird also running on this machine. My wife uses it for her email. When it was opened a message that the software update failed. I closed and when opened again received the same message. I restarted the computer and again received the software update failed. Is there anywhere where I can try to force an update. I could not locate a check for update option. Any thoughts? --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
I spoke to the gentleman that created this pdf last night and he said he can send me the document in o c r instead. Wil this benefit me? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file There's also the issue of whether the pdf was made accessibly or not. (it takes much longer to resove/OCR a poorly formatted pdf.) If people are referring to pages while discussing the pdf, then you can use the Go to Page Feature in Adobe Reader - ctrl-shift-n, and then type the page number and press enter. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles largish > documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into > preferences > and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. > > If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open Book > or > Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer > respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command > and > select whichever one is applicable as your printer. > > The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table > conversion > doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of mental > interpolation. > > Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. > > > Steve > Lansing, MI > - Original Message - >>From: brad > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file > > > I am on our home owners association and every month the management > company > sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I > can > read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get > held up > on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it > gets > very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list > of key > commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this > document > rather then being weighed down by cement boots. > > > > I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could > anyone > from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send > them > this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it > more > easily. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
There's also the issue of whether the pdf was made accessibly or not. (it takes much longer to resove/OCR a poorly formatted pdf.) If people are referring to pages while discussing the pdf, then you can use the Go to Page Feature in Adobe Reader - ctrl-shift-n, and then type the page number and press enter. - Original Message - From: "Steve" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles largish documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into preferences and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open Book or Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command and select whichever one is applicable as your printer. The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table conversion doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of mental interpolation. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: brad To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I am on our home owners association and every month the management company sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I can read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get held up on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it gets very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list of key commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this document rather then being weighed down by cement boots. I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could anyone from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send them this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it more easily. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file
You may be able to convert the entire document to text or word and read it that way. There used to be an option to save the pdf as a text file or there used to be a site called pdf2txt.com to accomplish this. hth -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file Good luck with that, Brad. I don't like the way Adobe handles largish documents, it seems to choke and take forever. You can go into preferences and tell it to only convert portions of the document as you go. If you have a few Benjamin's lying around, avail yourself of Open Book or Kurzweil. You can use the Freedom Import or Kurzweil Virtual Printer respectively. Just open the .pdf document, issue the print command and select whichever one is applicable as your printer. The disadvantage to reading docs in Adobe like that, is any table conversion doesn't work all that well. You have to be able to do a bit of mental interpolation. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: brad To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:21 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] large PDF file I am on our home owners association and every month the management company sends me this 165 page progress report and it is in a PDF format. I can read bits of the document but it runs real slow. I also seem to get held up on turning pages at times. I can navigate using the alt key but it gets very time consumeing. I was wondering if someone can send me a list of key commands that would make it easier for me to swim through this document rather then being weighed down by cement boots. I am using jaws 13 with windows 7 and adobe 10. If anything, could anyone from this list e-mail me privately and give me instruction if I send them this 165 page report to use as an example? It might help me grasp it more easily. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
