Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Silverlight

[Deb Caldbeck]

Ted, yours is the first email I have seen regarding Silverlight with JAWS.
I was able to work with JAWS 15 and Silverlight with Windows XP, but haven't
been able to get it to work with Windows 7 and JAWS 15.  My application is
streaming talkshows from websites.  One of the websites I would like to
stream from is www.iowacatholicradio.com.  I have installed the current
version of Silverlight, but JAWS says it isn't there.  Is it a matter of
having a sighted person install it, or will Silverlight never work in this
situation?

Thanks!

Deb Caldbeck

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Silverlight

FS, my department, and one of our software contractors have been involved
since last summer on trying to get JFW to work with a Silverlight-based app,
which maintains eligibility data for our cabinet.  I can now give you a
preliminary report on that project-at long last it works.  The app itself is
a bit overdesigned, and the JAWS cursor doesn't work at present (we hope we
can resolve that), but navigation and data entry are now possible.  The
accompanying log file, on the other hand, is not ready for prime time,
suggesting that these and similar apps may have to be tweaked on an
individual basis.  Presently, buttons and links are inoperative, but the
JAWS cursor is partially enabled.

I know there are one or two others out there working with this interface,
and any feedback would be welcome.  So FS's recent Web comments on
Silverlight have merit.  They further deserve credit for the extraordinary
level of personal service required to research and resolve this problem thus
far, even sending a programmer on-sight to see the problem first-hand.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Well,

On a positive note, that menu bar thing seems to have gone away with the
deletion of everything... I'm going to keep an eye out so to say if any of
those other little annoying bugs that I've learned to deal with have also
disappeared. Now to slowly reimport file by file and reconstruct my old set
up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] A follow up to my earlier post about an
annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws

Cristobal,

I've been given that test and solution by FS for many versions of JAWS. When

I have actually decided to follow their suggestion to delete all user 
settings, I do the following:

1. Copy all my user files to save them.
2. Delete them all.
3. Painfully re-do my default configuration and speech settings so I don't 
need to listen to JAWS in the Valium mode.
4. One at a time, with the most-often-used-applications, copy back the user 
setting files and determine if any of them cause the problems originally 
observed.
5. Do this for the subsequent several weeks until either I find the problem 
and recreate that particular application files, or never get the problem 
again, whichever happens last.

Painful, indeed and I don't think it's right that the customers have to do 
the trial-and-error work on FS's behalf.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an 
annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws


Hello list,



A few days ago I posted something related to an issue I was having for the
past few weeks with Jaws and an incredibly overactive system menu bar.
Others responded that they too had been dealing with this problem. In my
case, it started with Jaws 16 and really picked up with the latest JFW
release.



Anyway, I wrote FS tech support about this problem and was instructed to do
the standard run Jaws in default mode. I did this and for the short period
of time I was able to do so, the issue seemed not to be present. Running
jaws in default mode isn't' exactly a pleasant experience and as I use this
machine for my business, I couldn't really keep the computer running under
these conditions for a long period of time to really see if the problem had
truly gone away.



Anyway, I wrote FS about my experience and I was suggested to delete all
user settings. Please see below:



In this case, I recommend deleting your user settings and manually make all
settings again. This can be done by going to:



Start/all programs/JAWS 16.0/explore JAWS/explore my settings



Once here, perform the control+a command to select all files and press the
delete key. You will be asked if you are sure you want to delete these
files, tab to yes and hit enter.



Now, I'm not saying that this isn't the proper means to deal with this
bug,but I don't know if I want to go this rout. This isn't the first time
I've been instructed to deal with an irksome Jaws issue is this way, but it
sure feels rather extreme and all-encompassing. I was wondering if others
were presented with the same solution and if they went through with it and
more importantly, did it actually work.



I know I can simply back up the files to another folder before going through
with this step and replace them if this solution doesn't work, but I do find
it odd that 1, FS wouldnt' mention this step in their instructions and 2, I
don't want to start messing around with settings this and that and possibly
create more issues. Especially on this machine.



Any feedback would be appreciated.



Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

[Tim Ford]

Hello David,

Thank you very much, the directions below were clear and with your 
additional information about the pre-Windows lack of speech, I proceeded 
with success!  It took perhaps 15 minutes, then the computer did a normal 
boot and JAWS came up.  Very exciting for something to work as advertised.


Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

What will happen is the system goes and checks your drive for errors. Note:
this may take quite some time to perform, during which you will not have
speech as your system is in a pre-windows state. When it finishes the system
will restart on its own normally, so just turn up your speakers in case you
are in another part of the house when that happens.

I've known it to take over an hour at the very least if not longer. So do it
when you won't need your system for a while.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

When I press the start button for the disk error checking utility, Windows
says it cannot do this until my next restart.  If I do that, will it still
give me speech, or is this something I will have to do on blind faith?  If
on faith, how do I know when the utility is done?

Please advise, and much thanks,
Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance


Sure Kevin, here you go.

1. Open Computer or in Windows 8.1, it is called This PC or File Explorer.
2. Highlight the disc in question, probably your C: drive.
3. Open the Context Menu by pressing the APP key between the Control and
Windows logo keys on the right hand side of the space bar. If your keyboard
does not have an Applications key, the menu can be opened by pressing Shift
+ F10.
4. Up arrow one time to Properties, and press enter.
5. You will open onto the General tab. Tab down once or twice until you find
the Disc Clean Up button, and open this by pressing the Space Bar or enter.
6. Simply follow the instructions to run the Disc Clean Up utility on your
drive. This will clean up any unnecessary stuff on your drive.

7. When the Disc Clean Up finishes, close it, and then hold down the Control
key and press the Tab key. This will take you to the Tools Tab.
8. Tab down once, and you will find the Error Checking Utility, and press
enter on this to start the scan of your drive for any errors.
9. When finished with the Error Check Scan, tab down again to the Optimize
and Defrag utility, and press enter to start this process.
10. Once inside the Optimize and Defrag utility, you will see that there is
a list of drives to choose from, so arrow down to find the drive in question
and stop on it.
11. After selecting your drive, notice what it says about the state of the
drive, it will say that it has never been run, that is badly fragmented and
neeeds optimizing, or that it is OK. It may say something else, but it is
self explanatory.
12. If your drive needs optimizing, after tabbing once more, you will see
the Analyze button, which you will need to press enter on. This will find
the degree to which the drive is fragmented, and it should then comback and
say that it is OK or that it needs optimizing.

13. If it needs optimizing, then by tabbing down one last time, you will
find the optimize button, and press enter on it to optimize the drive. Once
this finishes, you will get a report on the state of the drive after
defragmenting is complete.
14. Now simply tab down to the close button and this will exit you out of
This PC completely.

Note: If a drive has any bad sectors on it, it cannot be totally
defragmented to the 0 point. If this happens, and there are only a small
number of bad sectors, then the drive should still perform well enough to
run the computer. However, once the drive gets too many bad sectors, then it
will be necessary to replace the drive. This is rare, but it does happen. In
the last 10 years, I have replaced two drives in two different computers.

I hope this helps you to get your disc back into the shape that you want it
in, and if I can be of help again, just send me a message.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

Mike
can you give me the steps again in more detail because when I use the
windows defrag I just do a disc clean up then defrag which is two steps.
you described more stuff, I don't quite understand.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] using wordpad

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mario,
While in your web browser, use Insert +V to open your verbosity settings for 
Jaws.
Tab once, and then arrow to virtual curssor options, and open it with right 
arrow.
You want to set this to copy text from virtual cursor., and not on-screen 
highlight.
Using the spacebar willtoggle your options.
When done, tab to  the close button.

HTH,
Rick Justice
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From: Mario Brusco mrb...@hotmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:09 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using wordpad


sometimes I use Wordpad to temporarily copy text from the clipboard, but
when I paste the text into Wordpad, I either get some gibberish or html tags
mixed in with the actual text I copied from a website, for example. is there
a way to not get html tags mixed in with the text, and what settings do I
need to change?



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[JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 and windows 8.1

[anna vimini]

Hi Mike,
no I am not switching betweenthe desk top version and themetro .
I am using the one that comes up when you type internet explorer from 
the start screen.
Probably you were switching between the desktop version, which will have 
the menus, and  the metro app version, which might not as most of the 
metro apps

on the start screen are not as accessible.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:32 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 in windows 8.1

I remember when I was using windows 8.0 and internet explorer 10 it had
two internet explorers one was the regular internet explorer and the
second internet explore was a search engine   that when you hit the
application button or the file button it did not work.
and now that I am using windows 8.1 the internet explorer 11 the
internet explorer that is like a search engine the file menu and the
application button work.
does anyone know the reason why?
just curious
Thanks in advance



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Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in so as to attach a file

[Kevin Hourigan]

Hello Jason,
I experience that issue occasionally as well. To circumvent it I go to My 
Documents through the run dialog, select the folder, and copy it to paste in 
the file edit box. The issue goes away, perhaps when I reboot; I have never 
checked that out.

Cheers Kevin.

-Original Message- 
From: Jason Smith

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in 
so as to attach a file


Hi list, I am trying to apply for a job online. During the application
process, I am asked to attach my resume. So like I have done previously, I
press enter on the provided browse button. I am then prompted to enter my
file name(so far this is normal). However, I shift tab to get into my list
of documents, I am put into my pictures folder. I have searched around the
screen to find an option to change the folder to my documents. However, the
document options I do find, only end up showing a small number of the
hundreds I do have. Even if I choose the c drive option, I don't seem to
get anywhere. Can anyone help me with this? I am using Jaws 16 on a Win
home premium desktop.
thanks Jason
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Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

[Mike Boyd]

Lenny,

To get a read receipt, press ALT + F to open the File menu. Tab down to the 
Options menu and press enter, then use Control Tab to get you over to the 
Receipts tab. Here you can set WLM to send read receipts. I could not find 
anything on marking a message as priority.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:36 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

How do you request a read receipt in wlm? Also can you mark a message
priority?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] some questions about open office

[Mike Boyd]

Try www.openoffice.org

Mike

-Original Message- 
From: Brian. Albriton

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] some questions about open office

Where would I get open office?



On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Russ Breitenstein 
russ.breitenst...@gmail.com wrote:


Jeff
I've been using Open Office with Jaws 15 and 16 and have had good success 
with it. Unfortunately, I can't recall using it with Jaws 14. I am only a 
'casual' user of Open Office so I haven't pushed the product very hard. 
The only thing I can suggest is give it a try and see how it behaves. One 
thing is certain - you can't beat the price.


Take care,
Russ


-Original Message- From: Geoff Eden
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] some questions about open office

I truly hope I am not annoying anyone by having missed answers to my
questions that have been previously submitted.

Gave my granddaughter a nice little laptop for Christmas, and it's now 
time
for some software.  Understanding that open office is safe, is widely 
used,
and is the software she has requested, I suggested that her father 
download

it and install it.

I may have to support her use, at least, in some measure.  Is there any
experience with open office in the group?

Is there anything I can do specifically to haveJAWS work reasonably
effectively with the software?

I use jaws 12 routinely because it's tied to Jay say, but I have 14
installed here as well.

All help welcome, with both the appreciation of my granddaughter and me.

Geoff


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[JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyingly overactive system menu bar and Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

 

A few days ago I posted something related to an issue I was having for the
past few weeks with Jaws and an incredibly overactive system menu bar.
Others responded that they too had been dealing with this problem. In my
case, it started with Jaws 16 and really picked up with the latest JFW
release.

 

Anyway, I wrote FS tech support about this problem and was instructed to do
the standard run Jaws in default mode. I did this and for the short period
of time I was able to do so, the issue seemed not to be present. Running
jaws in default mode isn’t’ exactly a pleasant experience and as I use this
machine for my business, I couldn’t really keep the computer running under
these conditions for a long period of time to really see if the problem had
truly gone away. 

 

Anyway, I wrote FS about my experience and I was suggested to delete all
user settings. Please see below:

 

In this case, I recommend deleting your user settings and manually make all
settings again. This can be done by going to:

 

Start/all programs/JAWS 16.0/explore JAWS/explore my settings

 

Once here, perform the control+a command to select all files and press the
delete key. You will be asked if you are sure you want to delete these
files, tab to yes and hit enter.

 

Now, I’m not saying that this isn’t the proper means to deal with this
bug,but I don’t know if I want to go this rout. This isn’t the first time
I’ve been instructed to deal with an irksome Jaws issue is this way, but it
sure feels rather extreme and all-encompassing. I was wondering if others
were presented with the same solution and if they went through with it and
more importantly, did it actually work. 

 

I know I can simply back up the files to another folder before going through
with this step and replace them if this solution doesn’t work, but I do find
it odd that 1, FS wouldnt’ mention this step in their instructions and 2, I
don’t want to start messing around with settings this and that and possibly
create more issues. Especially on this machine.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] using wordpad

[Tim Ford]

My recommended solution is to use the paste special feature in Word, then 
copy the results to where you need it next, e.g. to the body of an email.


One of the paste-special options is to paste only the text.  This eliminates 
a whole host of junk, everything you are experiencing, as well as differing 
fonts, format commands, etc.  In short, this gives you the cleanest possible 
result.


The steps:

1.  Copy the material to the clipboard in the usual fashion.

2.  Bring up Word.

3.  Press the applications key or shift plus f10.  In that list, arrow to 
paste options, but do not press the enter key yet  Instead, use the left 
and right arrows to find the text only option, then press enter.


3.  After a few seconds, the results will be pasted into your Word document. 
From there, you can copy and paste in the usual way; no need to repeat the 

paste options steps above.

This text-only feature can solve a myriad of JAWS navigation problems, so if 
you are having problems navigating a given bit of material, perform the 
above steps and paste the results into a separate Word document, or if you 
do not need to retain the original version, do a cut and paste into that 
original document.


Tim Ford

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using wordpad

sometimes I use Wordpad to temporarily copy text from the clipboard, but
when I paste the text into Wordpad, I either get some gibberish or html tags
mixed in with the actual text I copied from a website, for example. is there
a way to not get html tags mixed in with the text, and what settings do I
need to change?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

[Mike B.]

Hi Patti,

1. Route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor with the, Insert + NumPad Minus / 
Jaws cursor, keystroke.
2. Press the page-up button / key to take the cursor to the top of the page.
3. Use, Insert + right / left arrow until you find the, close symbol,  do a 
left mouse click on it to close whatever program / window you might be in.
HTH
Take Care.
Mike
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From: Patti
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon


Ok Mike what is the Jaws Review cursor, and how do you use it?
When Avast shows up, I can't close it. I did alt f4, alt spacebar, and
escape, and nothing works.
Running windows7, jaws 15.
Thanks
Patti
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Usually, if the program is displaying properly, you can find the
 maximize and close buttons on the top line using the Jaws Review cursor.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Smith
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:35 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon


 Hi list, I have just rejoined this list. So are looking forward to
 improving my skills in using Jaws(even though I am a long time user of
 it smile). I have been having several issues with Jaws since version
 15. For example, I am currently using Jaws 16 on a Windows7 home
 premium on a desktop computer. Starting with Jaws15, I have noticed
 that Jaws will no longer speak to me the close icon at the top of any
 programs or windows. I have confirmed with family members that the
 icon is in fact showing. I have spoken to my local Freedom Scientific
 distributor. But they just said. If it is there, than Jaws will read
 it. But like I said, family members confirm that they can see it and
 click on it. I do realize, that I can use the alt F4 command to close
 a program or window. But I find that alt F4 does not always close
 properly. So I like to be able to route Jaws to the PC cursor and then
 left click on the close icon.

 Has anybody else experienced this?

 Thanks Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyingly overactive system menu bar and Jaws

[Bissett, Tom]

The reason for fs suggestion is they have know way of knowing what changes may 
have been implemented and whether any changes may be causing the problem.
I would and have done this, of course first backing up the folder.  If the 
problem persists then just restore the folder and run it by fs again.  
Regards
Tom Bisset
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal
Sent: January 9, 2015 1:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyingly 
overactive system menu bar and Jaws

Hello list,

 

A few days ago I posted something related to an issue I was having for the past 
few weeks with Jaws and an incredibly overactive system menu bar.
Others responded that they too had been dealing with this problem. In my case, 
it started with Jaws 16 and really picked up with the latest JFW release.

 

Anyway, I wrote FS tech support about this problem and was instructed to do the 
standard run Jaws in default mode. I did this and for the short period of time 
I was able to do so, the issue seemed not to be present. Running jaws in 
default mode isn't' exactly a pleasant experience and as I use this machine for 
my business, I couldn't really keep the computer running under these conditions 
for a long period of time to really see if the problem had truly gone away. 

 

Anyway, I wrote FS about my experience and I was suggested to delete all user 
settings. Please see below:

 

In this case, I recommend deleting your user settings and manually make all 
settings again. This can be done by going to:

 

Start/all programs/JAWS 16.0/explore JAWS/explore my settings

 

Once here, perform the control+a command to select all files and press the 
delete key. You will be asked if you are sure you want to delete these files, 
tab to yes and hit enter.

 

Now, I'm not saying that this isn't the proper means to deal with this bug,but 
I don't know if I want to go this rout. This isn't the first time I've been 
instructed to deal with an irksome Jaws issue is this way, but it sure feels 
rather extreme and all-encompassing. I was wondering if others were presented 
with the same solution and if they went through with it and more importantly, 
did it actually work. 

 

I know I can simply back up the files to another folder before going through 
with this step and replace them if this solution doesn't work, but I do find it 
odd that 1, FS wouldnt' mention this step in their instructions and 2, I don't 
want to start messing around with settings this and that and possibly create 
more issues. Especially on this machine.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws

[Dave Carlson]

Cristobal,

I've been given that test and solution by FS for many versions of JAWS. When 
I have actually decided to follow their suggestion to delete all user 
settings, I do the following:

1. Copy all my user files to save them.
2. Delete them all.
3. Painfully re-do my default configuration and speech settings so I don't 
need to listen to JAWS in the Valium mode.
4. One at a time, with the most-often-used-applications, copy back the user 
setting files and determine if any of them cause the problems originally 
observed.
5. Do this for the subsequent several weeks until either I find the problem 
and recreate that particular application files, or never get the problem 
again, whichever happens last.

Painful, indeed and I don't think it's right that the customers have to do 
the trial-and-error work on FS's behalf.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an 
annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws


Hello list,



A few days ago I posted something related to an issue I was having for the
past few weeks with Jaws and an incredibly overactive system menu bar.
Others responded that they too had been dealing with this problem. In my
case, it started with Jaws 16 and really picked up with the latest JFW
release.



Anyway, I wrote FS tech support about this problem and was instructed to do
the standard run Jaws in default mode. I did this and for the short period
of time I was able to do so, the issue seemed not to be present. Running
jaws in default mode isn't' exactly a pleasant experience and as I use this
machine for my business, I couldn't really keep the computer running under
these conditions for a long period of time to really see if the problem had
truly gone away.



Anyway, I wrote FS about my experience and I was suggested to delete all
user settings. Please see below:



In this case, I recommend deleting your user settings and manually make all
settings again. This can be done by going to:



Start/all programs/JAWS 16.0/explore JAWS/explore my settings



Once here, perform the control+a command to select all files and press the
delete key. You will be asked if you are sure you want to delete these
files, tab to yes and hit enter.



Now, I'm not saying that this isn't the proper means to deal with this
bug,but I don't know if I want to go this rout. This isn't the first time
I've been instructed to deal with an irksome Jaws issue is this way, but it
sure feels rather extreme and all-encompassing. I was wondering if others
were presented with the same solution and if they went through with it and
more importantly, did it actually work.



I know I can simply back up the files to another folder before going through
with this step and replace them if this solution doesn't work, but I do find
it odd that 1, FS wouldnt' mention this step in their instructions and 2, I
don't want to start messing around with settings this and that and possibly
create more issues. Especially on this machine.



Any feedback would be appreciated.



Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] A follow up to my earlier post about an annoyingly overactive system menu bar and Jaws

[Cristóbal]

Thank you Dave and Tom for your your quick responses. 

I'm not necessarily against this approach. I just wanted to see if this
actually worked for others before diving down this rabbit hole. 
I'll probabably give it a try over the weekend when things are slower and I
don't have to depend on this machine for real time feedback.
Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] A follow up to my earlier post about an
annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws

Cristobal,

I've been given that test and solution by FS for many versions of JAWS. When

I have actually decided to follow their suggestion to delete all user 
settings, I do the following:

1. Copy all my user files to save them.
2. Delete them all.
3. Painfully re-do my default configuration and speech settings so I don't 
need to listen to JAWS in the Valium mode.
4. One at a time, with the most-often-used-applications, copy back the user 
setting files and determine if any of them cause the problems originally 
observed.
5. Do this for the subsequent several weeks until either I find the problem 
and recreate that particular application files, or never get the problem 
again, whichever happens last.

Painful, indeed and I don't think it's right that the customers have to do 
the trial-and-error work on FS's behalf.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:28 AM
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] A follow up to my earlier post about an 
annoyinglyoveractive system menu bar and Jaws


Hello list,



A few days ago I posted something related to an issue I was having for the
past few weeks with Jaws and an incredibly overactive system menu bar.
Others responded that they too had been dealing with this problem. In my
case, it started with Jaws 16 and really picked up with the latest JFW
release.



Anyway, I wrote FS tech support about this problem and was instructed to do
the standard run Jaws in default mode. I did this and for the short period
of time I was able to do so, the issue seemed not to be present. Running
jaws in default mode isn't' exactly a pleasant experience and as I use this
machine for my business, I couldn't really keep the computer running under
these conditions for a long period of time to really see if the problem had
truly gone away.



Anyway, I wrote FS about my experience and I was suggested to delete all
user settings. Please see below:



In this case, I recommend deleting your user settings and manually make all
settings again. This can be done by going to:



Start/all programs/JAWS 16.0/explore JAWS/explore my settings



Once here, perform the control+a command to select all files and press the
delete key. You will be asked if you are sure you want to delete these
files, tab to yes and hit enter.



Now, I'm not saying that this isn't the proper means to deal with this
bug,but I don't know if I want to go this rout. This isn't the first time
I've been instructed to deal with an irksome Jaws issue is this way, but it
sure feels rather extreme and all-encompassing. I was wondering if others
were presented with the same solution and if they went through with it and
more importantly, did it actually work.



I know I can simply back up the files to another folder before going through
with this step and replace them if this solution doesn't work, but I do find
it odd that 1, FS wouldnt' mention this step in their instructions and 2, I
don't want to start messing around with settings this and that and possibly
create more issues. Especially on this machine.



Any feedback would be appreciated.



Cristobal

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS and Silverlight

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)]

FS, my department, and one of our software contractors have been involved since 
last summer on trying to get JFW to work with a Silverlight-based app, which 
maintains eligibility data for our cabinet.  I can now give you a preliminary 
report on that project-at long last it works.  The app itself is a bit 
overdesigned, and the JAWS cursor doesn't work at present (we hope we can 
resolve that), but navigation and data entry are now possible.  The 
accompanying log file, on the other hand, is not ready for prime time, 
suggesting that these and similar apps may have to be tweaked on an individual 
basis.  Presently, buttons and links are inoperative, but the JAWS cursor is 
partially enabled.

I know there are one or two others out there working with this interface, and 
any feedback would be welcome.  So FS's recent Web comments on Silverlight have 
merit.  They further deserve credit for the extraordinary level of personal 
service required to research and resolve this problem thus far, even sending a 
programmer on-sight to see the problem first-hand.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X 2054; 
Fax: (502) 564-2228.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to lookin so as to attach a file

[Mike Boyd]

Jason,

If you are in the Tree View when browsing, and you utilize the left and 
right arrows to open and close the different folders, this will work fine 
until you reach the folder which contains the file which you are trying to 
locate, i.e. the documents folder. When you reach the documents folder, and 
it says closed, do not press the right arrow key to open it, simply press 
the tab key. This will also open the folder and will reveal all of the files 
and folders within it, not just a select few. I could not really tell, but I 
hope this ansers the question that you are asking.


Mike
blindb...@outlook.com



-Original Message- 
From: Bob Boyd

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to 
lookin so as to attach a file


Sounds like you need to switch folders to a higher level to find your Resume
file, which can be done from the Tree view.  I am not sure which version of
Windows you have, but in Windows 7, from the Attach File window, you are
first left in the file name field.  Hitting Shift tab twice puts you into
the list of files in your last used directory.  I believe this is your
Pictures folder.  Hitting Shift tab twice more should have you hearing
Tree.  From the Tree view you can up or down arrow, or use the first
letter of the desired foler.  JAWS should also announce the level of the
folder.  The default folder name is typically documents when you are
saving from most programs, but could easily have been modified along the
way.  Hope this helps.  I have never used Windows 8 so am not sure if the
tab structure is different in that version.

Bob Boyd

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Behalf Of Jason Smith
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in
so as to attach a file

Hi list, I am trying to apply for a job online. During the application
process, I am asked to attach my resume. So like I have done previously, I
press enter on the provided browse button. I am then prompted to enter my
file name(so far this is normal). However, I shift tab to get into my list
of documents, I am put into my pictures folder. I have searched around the
screen to find an option to change the folder to my documents. However, the
document options I do find, only end up showing a small number of the
hundreds I do have. Even if I choose the c drive option, I don't seem to get
anywhere. Can anyone help me with this? I am using Jaws 16 on a Win home
premium desktop.
thanks Jason
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

[Mike Boyd]

Patti,

As far as I know, the JAWS reveal cursor is just the JAWS cursor, found by 
pressing the - key on the number key pad with the num lock turned off. I 
have never found the close icon in this manner, and to get Avast to close, 
you can simply restart your computer. You may have to disable Avast in the 
start up items list to prevent it from starting automatically when your 
computer boots up. If you need instruction on this, let me know. Otherwise, 
just call Microsoft Accessibility Support and let them remove the program 
for you. Then get yourself a good antivirus program. If you want free, AVG 
is better than Avast, and you can run it with Malware Bytes free version for 
even better protection.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: Patti

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 5:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

Ok Mike what is the Jaws Review cursor, and how do you use it?
When Avast shows up, I can't close it. I did alt f4, alt spacebar, and
escape, and nothing works.
Running windows7, jaws 15.
Thanks
Patti
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:


Usually, if the program is displaying properly, you can find the
maximize and close buttons on the top line using the Jaws Review cursor.

- Original Message -
From: Jason Smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:35 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon


Hi list, I have just rejoined this list. So are looking forward to
improving my skills in using Jaws(even though I am a long time user of
it smile). I have been having several issues with Jaws since version
15. For example, I am currently using Jaws 16 on a Windows7 home
premium on a desktop computer. Starting with Jaws15, I have noticed
that Jaws will no longer speak to me the close icon at the top of any
programs or windows. I have confirmed with family members that the
icon is in fact showing. I have spoken to my local Freedom Scientific
distributor. But they just said. If it is there, than Jaws will read
it. But like I said, family members confirm that they can see it and
click on it. I do realize, that I can use the alt F4 command to close
a program or window. But I find that alt F4 does not always close
properly. So I like to be able to route Jaws to the PC cursor and then
left click on the close icon.

Has anybody else experienced this?

Thanks Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] parental controls, accessibility with jaws, thoughts on net nanny/looking for any suggestions

[Joeylamperis]

Well I started using parental controls till Jaws and a boot sector problems  
I'm not so sure locked computers with parental controls is not going to work s
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 9, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Kimsan Song kimsans...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, that was a super long subject line wasn't it? I'm at that point
 now where I need to monitor my kids activity on the net, does anyone
 have children here, or use anything like net nanny, or have something
 else preferably free that I can use to accomplish this?  You can read
 aboot net nanny here:
 http://internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com/netnanny-review.html
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

[Mike B.]

Hi Jason,

Here is a tutorial that explains using the Windows Classic theme  Windows 
Basic theme for Windows7:

While helping Barb learn a bit more about the icons at the top right
hand corner of most application Windows (Minimize Restore Close),
another issue came up. Gene stated he did not have any such icons at
the top right hand corner of his windows. I asked Gene if he had ever
changed the desktop theme on his Windows7 computer. He stated he had
not.

I now feel pretty confident I have solved the mystery of the missing
icons. (Smile).

For any new Windows7 computer users, I strongly, strongly suggest you
consider changing your desktop theme from the default to the Windows
Classic. By making this change, application windows will begin to feel
very much like the older Windows XP windows. I have made this
modification as well as other seasoned Windows7 users problem free. No
need to worry as this change is not permanent, and you can return back
to the Windows7 theme if you feel compelled to do so. When testing my
theory I went from Windows Classic, to the default Windows 7 desktop
theme, and back to the desktop classic theme hassle free.

To determine if you are using the Windows 7 theme simply launch
Notepad and Wordpad. Use the Jaws hotkey to read the top of the window
(Insert + Numpad 1 (End key). If you do not hear Minimize, Restore,
Close or any variation of, it is very likely you too are using the
Windows7 Desktop theme.

I have typed up the following information to give you and idea of how
the Windows Classic desktop theme can be of some benefit to you.

The new Windows7 theme is a combination of pictures, colors, and
sounds on your computer. It includes a desktop background, a screen
saver, a
window border color, and a sound scheme. Some Windows7 customized
themes can include their own desktop
icons and mouse pointers. A drawback of these themes to vision
impaired and blind computer users is that these visually stimulating
themes take up resources and do not add the same benefits as they
would to sighted Windows7 users. The following tutorial will help you
make changes that allow for Windows7 to take on the appearance and
sounds of the familiar Windows XP classic theme. As an added benefit,
these changes will also take the desktop out of the Alt + Tab
sequence. We will need to go to the Personalization Dialogue box to
make our change from the default Windows7 theme to the classic Windows
theme.

A little warning is in order. The tutorial below may make changes to
your current Windows sound scheme. If you would like to continue using
your current sound scheme with all its familiar sounds, make sure to
save it or at the very least make a note of its name so you can
restore it after the modifications below are made. Here's how to
identify your current sound scheme and how to restore it in the event
of any mishaps.

*Identifying Your Current Sound Scheme
1. Go to the Start menu search box and enter the following: Change
system sounds.
2. You will land on the sound scheme you are currently using. Make a
note of this particular sound scheme.

*Restoring a Sound Scheme
1. If your sound scheme is changed by the steps in the tutorial below,
go to the Start menu search box and enter the following: Change system
sounds.
2. You will land on a combo box consisting of all of the sound schemes
on your computer.
3. Arrow up or down to select your previous sound scheme.
4. This step is very important. Press Shift + Tab twice or until you
get to Apply and hit enter.
5. Press Shift + tab to Ok and hit enter.
6. Go back and repeat steps 1 and 2 to verify your sound scheme is
indeed the currently running sound scheme.

*To Configure the Windows Classic Theme

1. Press the windows key to open the Start menu search box, type the
following words and hit enter: Change the theme. Note: you can also
simply type the word Theme.
2. You will land directly on the Personalization dialogue box's Theme 
Gallery.
3. Press down arrow until you get to an item called Windows7 Basic.
Right arrow to Windows Classic. Hit the enter key to execute the
desired change.
4. Wait a few seconds or until you hear an audio sound effect
confirming the completion of this process. I would wait another 2
minutes or so as your computer is making lots of changes and you want
to allow lots of time for the process to complete.
5. To confirm the changes have been made correctly repeat steps 1 and
2. When you land on the Theme Gallery make sure it is indeed set to
Windows Classic.
6. Press alt F4 to close the Personalization dialogue box.
LS

Take Care.
Mike
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From: Jason Smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon


Hi Steve, that is what was weird. As I could not find the close button etc
either by using the Jaws cursor, or by routing Jaws to the PC cursor. But
Mike's suggestion seems 

[JAWS-Users] parental controls, accessibility with jaws, thoughts on net nanny/looking for any suggestions

[Kimsan Song]

Sorry, that was a super long subject line wasn't it? I'm at that point
now where I need to monitor my kids activity on the net, does anyone
have children here, or use anything like net nanny, or have something
else preferably free that I can use to accomplish this?  You can read
aboot net nanny here:
http://internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com/netnanny-review.html

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

[Bob Boyd]

Mike,

We aren't paying you enough.  I'm putting you in for the 2015 20%
raise.Kidding aside, thank you for all the good information, which is very
useful.  Your time is appreciated.

Bob


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

Hi Jason,

Here is a tutorial that explains using the Windows Classic theme  Windows
Basic theme for Windows7:

While helping Barb learn a bit more about the icons at the top right hand
corner of most application Windows (Minimize Restore Close), another issue
came up. Gene stated he did not have any such icons at the top right hand
corner of his windows. I asked Gene if he had ever changed the desktop theme
on his Windows7 computer. He stated he had not.

I now feel pretty confident I have solved the mystery of the missing icons.
(Smile).

For any new Windows7 computer users, I strongly, strongly suggest you
consider changing your desktop theme from the default to the Windows
Classic. By making this change, application windows will begin to feel very
much like the older Windows XP windows. I have made this modification as
well as other seasoned Windows7 users problem free. No need to worry as this
change is not permanent, and you can return back to the Windows7 theme if
you feel compelled to do so. When testing my theory I went from Windows
Classic, to the default Windows 7 desktop theme, and back to the desktop
classic theme hassle free.

To determine if you are using the Windows 7 theme simply launch Notepad and
Wordpad. Use the Jaws hotkey to read the top of the window (Insert + Numpad
1 (End key). If you do not hear Minimize, Restore, Close or any variation
of, it is very likely you too are using the
Windows7 Desktop theme.

I have typed up the following information to give you and idea of how the
Windows Classic desktop theme can be of some benefit to you.

The new Windows7 theme is a combination of pictures, colors, and sounds on
your computer. It includes a desktop background, a screen saver, a window
border color, and a sound scheme. Some Windows7 customized themes can
include their own desktop icons and mouse pointers. A drawback of these
themes to vision impaired and blind computer users is that these visually
stimulating themes take up resources and do not add the same benefits as
they would to sighted Windows7 users. The following tutorial will help you
make changes that allow for Windows7 to take on the appearance and sounds of
the familiar Windows XP classic theme. As an added benefit, these changes
will also take the desktop out of the Alt + Tab sequence. We will need to go
to the Personalization Dialogue box to make our change from the default
Windows7 theme to the classic Windows theme.

A little warning is in order. The tutorial below may make changes to your
current Windows sound scheme. If you would like to continue using your
current sound scheme with all its familiar sounds, make sure to save it or
at the very least make a note of its name so you can restore it after the
modifications below are made. Here's how to identify your current sound
scheme and how to restore it in the event of any mishaps.

*Identifying Your Current Sound Scheme
1. Go to the Start menu search box and enter the following: Change system
sounds.
2. You will land on the sound scheme you are currently using. Make a note of
this particular sound scheme.

*Restoring a Sound Scheme
1. If your sound scheme is changed by the steps in the tutorial below, go to
the Start menu search box and enter the following: Change system sounds.
2. You will land on a combo box consisting of all of the sound schemes on
your computer.
3. Arrow up or down to select your previous sound scheme.
4. This step is very important. Press Shift + Tab twice or until you get to
Apply and hit enter.
5. Press Shift + tab to Ok and hit enter.
6. Go back and repeat steps 1 and 2 to verify your sound scheme is indeed
the currently running sound scheme.

*To Configure the Windows Classic Theme

1. Press the windows key to open the Start menu search box, type the
following words and hit enter: Change the theme. Note: you can also simply
type the word Theme.
2. You will land directly on the Personalization dialogue box's Theme
Gallery.
3. Press down arrow until you get to an item called Windows7 Basic.
Right arrow to Windows Classic. Hit the enter key to execute the desired
change.
4. Wait a few seconds or until you hear an audio sound effect confirming the
completion of this process. I would wait another 2 minutes or so as your
computer is making lots of changes and you want to allow lots of time for
the process to complete.
5. To confirm the changes have been made correctly repeat steps 1 and 2.
When you land on the Theme Gallery make sure it is indeed set to Windows
Classic.
6. Press alt F4 to close the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

[Tim Ford]

When I press the start button for the disk error checking utility, Windows 
says it cannot do this until my next restart.  If I do that, will it still 
give me speech, or is this something I will have to do on blind faith?  If 
on faith, how do I know when the utility is done?


Please advise, and much thanks,
Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Boyd

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance


Sure Kevin, here you go.

1. Open Computer or in Windows 8.1, it is called This PC or File Explorer.
2. Highlight the disc in question, probably your C: drive.
3. Open the Context Menu by pressing the APP key between the Control and
Windows logo keys on the right hand side of the space bar. If your keyboard
does not have an Applications key, the menu can be opened by pressing Shift
+ F10.
4. Up arrow one time to Properties, and press enter.
5. You will open onto the General tab. Tab down once or twice until you find
the Disc Clean Up button, and open this by pressing the Space Bar or enter.
6. Simply follow the instructions to run the Disc Clean Up utility on your
drive. This will clean up any unnecessary stuff on your drive.

7. When the Disc Clean Up finishes, close it, and then hold down the Control
key and press the Tab key. This will take you to the Tools Tab.
8. Tab down once, and you will find the Error Checking Utility, and press
enter on this to start the scan of your drive for any errors.
9. When finished with the Error Check Scan, tab down again to the Optimize
and Defrag utility, and press enter to start this process.
10. Once inside the Optimize and Defrag utility, you will see that there is
a list of drives to choose from, so arrow down to find the drive in question
and stop on it.
11. After selecting your drive, notice what it says about the state of the
drive, it will say that it has never been run, that is badly fragmented and
neeeds optimizing, or that it is OK. It may say something else, but it is
self explanatory.
12. If your drive needs optimizing, after tabbing once more, you will see
the Analyze button, which you will need to press enter on. This will find
the degree to which the drive is fragmented, and it should then comback and
say that it is OK or that it needs optimizing.

13. If it needs optimizing, then by tabbing down one last time, you will
find the optimize button, and press enter on it to optimize the drive. Once
this finishes, you will get a report on the state of the drive after
defragmenting is complete.
14. Now simply tab down to the close button and this will exit you out of
This PC completely.

Note: If a drive has any bad sectors on it, it cannot be totally
defragmented to the 0 point. If this happens, and there are only a small
number of bad sectors, then the drive should still perform well enough to
run the computer. However, once the drive gets too many bad sectors, then it
will be necessary to replace the drive. This is rare, but it does happen. In
the last 10 years, I have replaced two drives in two different computers.

I hope this helps you to get your disc back into the shape that you want it
in, and if I can be of help again, just send me a message.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

Mike
can you give me the steps again in more detail because when I use the
windows defrag I just do a disc clean up then defrag which is two steps.
you described more stuff, I don't quite understand.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 and windows 8.1

[Mike Boyd]

Hi Anna,

Then, this is the Metro App version of Internet Explorer. Do you know if you 
have IE on your desktop? Try the key stroke Windows key + D or Windows key + 
M to take you to the desktop, and open IE from there, this will open the 
desktop version of the program, which should be moore accessible. If you do 
not have it on your desktop, then you will have to navigate to c:\program 
files\internet explorer\iexplore, then use the context menu to create a 
shortcut on your desktop for the program.  Hope this helps.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 and windows 8.1

Hi Mike,
no I am not switching betweenthe desk top version and themetro .
I am using the one that comes up when you type internet explorer from
the start screen.
Probably you were switching between the desktop version, which will have
the menus, and  the metro app version, which might not as most of the
metro apps
on the start screen are not as accessible.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:32 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 in windows 8.1

I remember when I was using windows 8.0 and internet explorer 10 it had
two internet explorers one was the regular internet explorer and the
second internet explore was a search engine   that when you hit the
application button or the file button it did not work.
and now that I am using windows 8.1 the internet explorer 11 the
internet explorer that is like a search engine the file menu and the
application button work.
does anyone know the reason why?
just curious
Thanks in advance



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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 and windows 8.1

[Londa Peterson]

If you're using the one from the search on the start screen, it is the
modern one. There are a couple of settings changes you can make to ensure
you are using the desktop version. If you look at the Windows 8 webinar on
the free webinars page, the information is there. I ensure that I am using
the desktop version by first going to the desktop  Windows M or Windows D.
Then I press the Windows key with the number 1 on the numbers row of the
keyboard. Since Internet Explorer by default is pinned to the first position
on the taskbar, it will come up, and it will be the desktop version. Hope
this helps. 

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Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 and windows 8.1

Hi Mike,
no I am not switching betweenthe desk top version and themetro .
I am using the one that comes up when you type internet explorer from 
the start screen.
Probably you were switching between the desktop version, which will have 
the menus, and  the metro app version, which might not as most of the 
metro apps
on the start screen are not as accessible.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:32 AM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 in windows 8.1

I remember when I was using windows 8.0 and internet explorer 10 it had
two internet explorers one was the regular internet explorer and the
second internet explore was a search engine   that when you hit the
application button or the file button it did not work.
and now that I am using windows 8.1 the internet explorer 11 the
internet explorer that is like a search engine the file menu and the
application button work.
does anyone know the reason why?
just curious
Thanks in advance



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Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

[David Ferrin]

What will happen is the system goes and checks your drive for errors. Note:
this may take quite some time to perform, during which you will not have
speech as your system is in a pre-windows state. When it finishes the system
will restart on its own normally, so just turn up your speakers in case you
are in another part of the house when that happens. 

I've known it to take over an hour at the very least if not longer. So do it
when you won't need your system for a while.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


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Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

When I press the start button for the disk error checking utility, Windows
says it cannot do this until my next restart.  If I do that, will it still
give me speech, or is this something I will have to do on blind faith?  If
on faith, how do I know when the utility is done?

Please advise, and much thanks,
Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: Mike Boyd
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance


Sure Kevin, here you go.

1. Open Computer or in Windows 8.1, it is called This PC or File Explorer.
2. Highlight the disc in question, probably your C: drive.
3. Open the Context Menu by pressing the APP key between the Control and
Windows logo keys on the right hand side of the space bar. If your keyboard
does not have an Applications key, the menu can be opened by pressing Shift
+ F10.
4. Up arrow one time to Properties, and press enter.
5. You will open onto the General tab. Tab down once or twice until you find
the Disc Clean Up button, and open this by pressing the Space Bar or enter.
6. Simply follow the instructions to run the Disc Clean Up utility on your
drive. This will clean up any unnecessary stuff on your drive.

7. When the Disc Clean Up finishes, close it, and then hold down the Control
key and press the Tab key. This will take you to the Tools Tab.
8. Tab down once, and you will find the Error Checking Utility, and press
enter on this to start the scan of your drive for any errors.
9. When finished with the Error Check Scan, tab down again to the Optimize
and Defrag utility, and press enter to start this process.
10. Once inside the Optimize and Defrag utility, you will see that there is
a list of drives to choose from, so arrow down to find the drive in question
and stop on it.
11. After selecting your drive, notice what it says about the state of the
drive, it will say that it has never been run, that is badly fragmented and
neeeds optimizing, or that it is OK. It may say something else, but it is
self explanatory.
12. If your drive needs optimizing, after tabbing once more, you will see
the Analyze button, which you will need to press enter on. This will find
the degree to which the drive is fragmented, and it should then comback and
say that it is OK or that it needs optimizing.

13. If it needs optimizing, then by tabbing down one last time, you will
find the optimize button, and press enter on it to optimize the drive. Once
this finishes, you will get a report on the state of the drive after
defragmenting is complete.
14. Now simply tab down to the close button and this will exit you out of
This PC completely.

Note: If a drive has any bad sectors on it, it cannot be totally
defragmented to the 0 point. If this happens, and there are only a small
number of bad sectors, then the drive should still perform well enough to
run the computer. However, once the drive gets too many bad sectors, then it
will be necessary to replace the drive. This is rare, but it does happen. In
the last 10 years, I have replaced two drives in two different computers.

I hope this helps you to get your disc back into the shape that you want it
in, and if I can be of help again, just send me a message.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disc performance

Mike
can you give me the steps again in more detail because when I use the
windows defrag I just do a disc clean up then defrag which is two steps.
you described more stuff, I don't quite understand.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Avast Issues

[Mike Boyd]

Lynn,

The best way you are going to accomplish this is to restart your computer. 
Then, go immediately to Computer, then open your C drive and navigate to 
Program Files (X86)/Avast and find the uninstall file. Run this to uninstal 
the program from your computer. Do not use Programs and Features in the 
Control Panel, it will only remove portions of the program, making it even 
harder to get rid of. If the uninstall file does not remove the program, you 
will then need to go to the Avast web site, and download their removal tool, 
and try running it to do the job. It is possible that even this will not 
work, in which case, I recommend calling Microsoft Accessibility Support at 
800-936-5900 to get one of the support agents to remove the program from 
your computer.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

and uninstall Avast from your computer. It is not accessible, and it will 
make your computer crazy. If Programs and Features cannot remove the 
program, which is likely


-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Avast Issues

someone has put a trial version of Avast on my laptop.  I've been told
that it works okay with Jaws.

However, I can't seem to close the dialogs and thus, it is causing
problems with some applications.

Does anyone know how to close these silly boxes?  Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in so as to attach a file

[Bob Boyd]

Sounds like you need to switch folders to a higher level to find your Resume
file, which can be done from the Tree view.  I am not sure which version of
Windows you have, but in Windows 7, from the Attach File window, you are
first left in the file name field.  Hitting Shift tab twice puts you into
the list of files in your last used directory.  I believe this is your
Pictures folder.  Hitting Shift tab twice more should have you hearing
Tree.  From the Tree view you can up or down arrow, or use the first
letter of the desired foler.  JAWS should also announce the level of the
folder.  The default folder name is typically documents when you are
saving from most programs, but could easily have been modified along the
way.  Hope this helps.  I have never used Windows 8 so am not sure if the
tab structure is different in that version.

Bob Boyd

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Smith
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in
so as to attach a file

Hi list, I am trying to apply for a job online. During the application
process, I am asked to attach my resume. So like I have done previously, I
press enter on the provided browse button. I am then prompted to enter my
file name(so far this is normal). However, I shift tab to get into my list
of documents, I am put into my pictures folder. I have searched around the
screen to find an option to change the folder to my documents. However, the
document options I do find, only end up showing a small number of the
hundreds I do have. Even if I choose the c drive option, I don't seem to get
anywhere. Can anyone help me with this? I am using Jaws 16 on a Win home
premium desktop.
thanks Jason
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Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

[Tom Clary]

 4 actual key strokes, in 2 steps

On 1/9/15, Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net wrote:

 Control E centers the text horizontally. I believe you have to use  the home

 tab of the ribbons to get the text to center vertically. There are several
 steps to the process, and it cannot be accomplished by one key stroke.

 Mike
 blindb...@comcast.net



 -Original Message-
 From: j Bron
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:59 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

 Control E centers.

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Clary
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:39 PM
 To: jaws-users-list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

 i know this has been ansered before, but what are the key strokes to
 verticly center a 2010 ms word paragraph

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Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in so as to attach a file

[Jason Smith]

Hi I am using windows7 home premium. When I shift tab beck into the list
like you suggest, I am only presented with: libraries. homegroup, computer
and network. And all of these are closed. I have had a look in each, but
are confused as to what to do from here. Do you have any more suggestions?
Thanks Jason

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Bob Boyd bobboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds like you need to switch folders to a higher level to find your
 Resume
 file, which can be done from the Tree view.  I am not sure which version of
 Windows you have, but in Windows 7, from the Attach File window, you are
 first left in the file name field.  Hitting Shift tab twice puts you into
 the list of files in your last used directory.  I believe this is your
 Pictures folder.  Hitting Shift tab twice more should have you hearing
 Tree.  From the Tree view you can up or down arrow, or use the first
 letter of the desired foler.  JAWS should also announce the level of the
 folder.  The default folder name is typically documents when you are
 saving from most programs, but could easily have been modified along the
 way.  Hope this helps.  I have never used Windows 8 so am not sure if the
 tab structure is different in that version.

 Bob Boyd

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Jason Smith
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:43 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in
 so as to attach a file

 Hi list, I am trying to apply for a job online. During the application
 process, I am asked to attach my resume. So like I have done previously, I
 press enter on the provided browse button. I am then prompted to enter my
 file name(so far this is normal). However, I shift tab to get into my list
 of documents, I am put into my pictures folder. I have searched around the
 screen to find an option to change the folder to my documents. However, the
 document options I do find, only end up showing a small number of the
 hundreds I do have. Even if I choose the c drive option, I don't seem to
 get
 anywhere. Can anyone help me with this? I am using Jaws 16 on a Win home
 premium desktop.
 thanks Jason
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't access docujments folder

[j Bron]

Bingo!  I have my documents folder back!  Thanks!  JB

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 9:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't access docujments folder

Hi J,

Try using any of the steps below:
1.  Activate windows explore windows key+e
2.  Tab to the command module toolbar organize button and hit enter 3.
Arrow down to the layout submenu and and right arrow to open the selections
4.  Arrow down to preview pane and if it's checked here, hit enter to
uncheck this item.

If it's not checked here, press the alt key to exit the menu with no
changes.
Mike

From:
David
Hello there;

Also, Alt + P, will check or uncheck the Preview pane while in a open
dialogue box in Word 2010.
David
From:
Gene
Another list member sent instructions for how to do this, which you may not
have seen.  I'll tell you how this is done in case you missed it.
That's where I learned how to turn it on or off.

When you are in a drive or folder, shift tab until you get to a button that
says organize.  You are on a tool bar.  Start right arrowing through the
items in the tool bar and you will get to a check box that says viewpane.
If it is unchecked, it's off.  If it's checked, it's on.  My guess is that
it is off by default.

Gene
From: david

1, computer,

2, alt+t=tools,

3, o=options,

4, shift+tab to general,

5, right arrow to view,

6, tab to the tree-view,

7, press the letter s=Show preview handlers in preview pane-On Press
spacebar to set to off, Now tab okay press enter.
David
HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

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From: j Bron
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't access docujments folder


I don't know.  How do you accessit?

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Behalf Of Joeylamperis
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't access docujments folder

Do you have preview pane  on?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:50 PM, j Bron jb...@optonline.net wrote:

 For whatever reason I can't open My Documents folder.  I get a
 document out by bringing down a blank document with Microsoft word and
 pressing control O to open a document but I can't access the folder. Any
advice?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

[Lenny McHugh]

correct

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

while in your in box
use control shift o
and this does nothing?
Then try
alt f, then o and enter
this should bring you to the general page which is the first page of multi
pages
now control tab to the read/receipt page
good luck


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From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

control shift o does nothing on this machine using latest jaws win 7 32 bit

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

use the options
multi page to find read/receipt
control shift o
then control tab three times to get to read/receipt
Make sure you always okay the changes
good luck

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:36 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

How do you request a read receipt in wlm? Also can you mark a message
priority?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon

[Patti]

Ok Mike what is the Jaws Review cursor, and how do you use it?
When Avast shows up, I can't close it. I did alt f4, alt spacebar, and
escape, and nothing works.
Running windows7, jaws 15.
Thanks
Patti
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Usually, if the program is displaying properly, you can find the 
 maximize and close buttons on the top line using the Jaws Review cursor.

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 From: Jason Smith
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:35 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading the close window icon


 Hi list, I have just rejoined this list. So are looking forward to 
 improving my skills in using Jaws(even though I am a long time user of 
 it smile). I have been having several issues with Jaws since version 
 15. For example, I am currently using Jaws 16 on a Windows7 home 
 premium on a desktop computer. Starting with Jaws15, I have noticed 
 that Jaws will no longer speak to me the close icon at the top of any 
 programs or windows. I have confirmed with family members that the 
 icon is in fact showing. I have spoken to my local Freedom Scientific 
 distributor. But they just said. If it is there, than Jaws will read 
 it. But like I said, family members confirm that they can see it and 
 click on it. I do realize, that I can use the alt F4 command to close 
 a program or window. But I find that alt F4 does not always close 
 properly. So I like to be able to route Jaws to the PC cursor and then 
 left click on the close icon.

 Has anybody else experienced this?

 Thanks Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

[Janie Degenshein]

while in your in box
use control shift o
and this does nothing?
Then try
alt f, then o and enter
this should bring you to the general page which is the first page of multi 
pages

now control tab to the read/receipt page
good luck


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

control shift o does nothing on this machine using latest jaws win 7 32 bit

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

use the options
multi page to find read/receipt
control shift o
then control tab three times to get to read/receipt
Make sure you always okay the changes
good luck

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:36 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] wlm read receipt

How do you request a read receipt in wlm? Also can you mark a message
priority?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look in so as to attach a file

[david]

hello;
once you enter on the browse button, now you shift+tab until you hear
pictures, most likely you have landed in the user folder,
so, if you use the down arrow you should find my documents, or documents,
here you could press enter.
now, simply tab you should be placed into the document lists of files.
however, here's an easier way,

1, navigate to where your resume is saved.
highlight the file,
do not press enter on the file,

2, press shift+f10,
or,
you could press shift+applications key,
up arrow and enter on,
copy as path,
note, when you use the up arrow you will hear copy first, ignore this and up
arrow to copy as path.
now when you go to the browse button, press enter, and in the file name edit
field just paste from clipboard,
you should see, location/file name.
now you can continue the process.
hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Smith
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look
in so as to attach a file

Hi I am using windows7 home premium. When I shift tab beck into the list
like you suggest, I am only presented with: libraries. homegroup, computer
and network. And all of these are closed. I have had a look in each, but
are confused as to what to do from here. Do you have any more suggestions?
Thanks Jason

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Bob Boyd bobboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds like you need to switch folders to a higher level to find your
 Resume
 file, which can be done from the Tree view.  I am not sure which version
of
 Windows you have, but in Windows 7, from the Attach File window, you are
 first left in the file name field.  Hitting Shift tab twice puts you into
 the list of files in your last used directory.  I believe this is your
 Pictures folder.  Hitting Shift tab twice more should have you hearing
 Tree.  From the Tree view you can up or down arrow, or use the first
 letter of the desired foler.  JAWS should also announce the level of the
 folder.  The default folder name is typically documents when you are
 saving from most programs, but could easily have been modified along the
 way.  Hope this helps.  I have never used Windows 8 so am not sure if the
 tab structure is different in that version.

 Bob Boyd

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Jason Smith
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:43 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] having trouble using Jaws to change folder to look
in
 so as to attach a file

 Hi list, I am trying to apply for a job online. During the application
 process, I am asked to attach my resume. So like I have done previously, I
 press enter on the provided browse button. I am then prompted to enter my
 file name(so far this is normal). However, I shift tab to get into my list
 of documents, I am put into my pictures folder. I have searched around the
 screen to find an option to change the folder to my documents. However,
the
 document options I do find, only end up showing a small number of the
 hundreds I do have. Even if I choose the c drive option, I don't seem to
 get
 anywhere. Can anyone help me with this? I am using Jaws 16 on a Win home
 premium desktop.
 thanks Jason
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Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

[Kimber Gardner]

If you have a piece of text that doesn't take up an entire page and
you want an equal amount of white space above and below that piece of
text, that would necessitate vertically centering the text on the
page.

I hope that helps.

Kimber

On 1/8/15, Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 Hi Kevin,
 Yes, I know that, and the horizon is left to right.

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 From: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word


 Think of the sun setting on the horizon.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Justice
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:53 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

 If the selected text is centered from left to right, between the margins,
 wouldn't that be considered vertical?
 And if the selected text is centered from top to bottom,
 wouldn't that be considered horizontal?

 Rick Justice
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Clary tclar...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word


 that's horizontal center

 On 1/8/15, j Bron jb...@optonline.net wrote:
 Control E centers.

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 Behalf Of Tom Clary
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:39 PM
 To: jaws-users-list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

  i know this has been ansered before, but what are the key strokes to
 verticly center a 2010 ms word paragraph

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[JAWS-Users] link for facebook webiner

[j Bron]

Can someone send the link for the facebook webinar?  Thanks, JB

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[JAWS-Users] using wordpad

[Mario Brusco]

sometimes I use Wordpad to temporarily copy text from the clipboard, but 
when I paste the text into Wordpad, I either get some gibberish or html tags 
mixed in with the actual text I copied from a website, for example. is there 
a way to not get html tags mixed in with the text, and what settings do I 
need to change?



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