Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

[David Moore]

Hi Dennis.
JAWS works very well with the latest version of iTunes. Jim Flusche, has two 
great audio tutorials on his group that he did on using iTunes with JAWS, and 
even navigating the store. I use iTunes all of the time to organize my music 
and to have great libraries of music. To get the tutorial, Join Jim’s list:
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in
JAWS 18 works the best.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

How accessible is I tunes with Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

[Dave ...]

David,

Wonder if she has installed all the latest updates? If way behind on that, 
the level of security may not be enough for the new email protocols to work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over


With his email service actually. I just got off the phone with a Verizon
tech support lady and she quoted me the server protocols ETC. and it still
doesn't work. She is going to get back to me in around an hour and with luck
I'll have spoken to my cousin and got his account information by that point.
Honestly not hopeful on that last deal.

-Original Message- 
From: andy
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

I am sorry, I missed what the problemis?
Is it with Verizon wireless or Verizon home phone/internet/cable?

Thanks
Andy


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

Thank you Gerald for your reply. I got it on one of my other email accounts
and copied out the phone number for their tech support people. Now with luck
they will figure out the problem.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
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[Dennis Long]

How accessible is I tunes with Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] pronounciation dictionary?

[Mike B.]

Hi Net bat,

Yes, while in any application if you press, Insert / Jaws key + D, this will 
open the dictionary for this application, & to open the Jaws default 
dictionary then press, Control, Shift, + D.
You can also press, Insert / Jaws key + F2, to open a list of Jaws managers, 
& find the Dictionary Manager that way as well.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] pronounciation dictionary?


does jaws 18 have a pronnounciation dictionary?
there are times when words are miss pronnounced or words that are all 
uppercase
and are spelled out.
or things like ctrl  text on web pages and documents can say control with 
the
win eyes dictionary etc.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[Mike B.]

Hi David,

Thank you, but it's not necessary.  I was asking for someone else, & I just 
wanted to make sure that by telling them keystrokes couldn't be added to the 
key label manager that I would be telling them the correct info.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels


I could do it with a jaws script, it just didn't cross what I have left of a
mind.

That would be easy enough I imagine.

-Original Message- 
From: Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 4:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Doing something like that might be possible if you knew enough about
JAWS scripting. Beyond that, you'd have to use a resource editor and
modify what Thunderbird currently labels Shift+F5 as. And that assumes
that Thunderbird is coded to use resource data to define dialogs and
menus, rather than dynamically building them at run time.

Later...


On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hola Señor Ferrin,
>
> yes, but basically, I just wanted to know if it could be done within the
> Jaws keyboard manager or, in the Settings Center using a Jaws feature /
> function I wasn't aware of.  Thunderbird was an example, but no matter
> what
> the program is, it sounds like that programs coding would have to be
> modified, & that would be the only way.  Thanks much for the verification.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: David Ferrin
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels
>
>
> You want to do this without modifying any dictionary if I understand you
> correctly.
>
> It sounds like you want to break in to the code for thunderbird and
> reprogram what the key labels read out. Sounds tuff to me, above my pay
> scale.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:08 PM
> To: Jaws-Users List
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other
> than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws
> dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it
> possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would
> someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be
> greatly
> appreciated.  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] free email clients that work with jaws

[Audiobookfan]

If you're running Vista, you can use Windows Mail (formerly Outlook 
Express). It definitely supports Yahoo and gmail and it's very 
accessible with JAWS. I used it on my Vista computer for years.


An alternative that is also free and accessible with later versions of 
JAWS is Thunderbird. That's the email program I'm currently using to 
compose and send this reply.


Jeff

On 5/27/2017 1:54 PM, claudette macon wrote:

  can any list member recommend a free email client, that works well with jaws, 
that supports both yahoo mail and gmail. vista, jaws 17

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Re: [JAWS-Users] pronounciation dictionary?

[Gene Warner]

Yes it does, what is more you can have a seperate dictionary for each 
program as well as a global one, just like you can have different 
settings for programs.


To access it, use the JAWS key, usually insert, plud D. This will get 
you the dictionary manager for whatever program you were in when you 
invoked it. To get to the default or global dictionary, if the 
dictionary manager is asking to create a new dictionary, just press 
Escape, otherwise, the dictionary manager will load with the already 
existing dictionary loaded, to get to the default of global dictionary 
from here just press control+shift+D, just like in the settings manager.


After you added, edited, or removed some words, press control+S to save 
the dictionary, then press Alt+F4 to exit, if you forget to save, the 
dictionary manager will remind you when you try to exit.


Hope that helps.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:49 PM, net bat66 wrote:

does jaws 18 have a pronnounciation dictionary?
there are times when words are miss pronnounced or words that are all
uppercase and are spelled out.
or things like ctrl  text on web pages and documents can say control
with the win eyes dictionary etc.





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[JAWS-Users] pronounciation dictionary?

[net bat66]

does jaws 18 have a pronnounciation dictionary?
there are times when words are miss pronnounced or words that are all uppercase 
and are spelled out.
or things like ctrl  text on web pages and documents can say control with the 
win eyes dictionary etc.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[David Ferrin]

I could do it with a jaws script, it just didn't cross what I have left of a 
mind.


That would be easy enough I imagine.

-Original Message- 
From: Gene Warner

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 4:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Doing something like that might be possible if you knew enough about
JAWS scripting. Beyond that, you'd have to use a resource editor and
modify what Thunderbird currently labels Shift+F5 as. And that assumes
that Thunderbird is coded to use resource data to define dialogs and
menus, rather than dynamically building them at run time.

Later...


On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hola Señor Ferrin,

yes, but basically, I just wanted to know if it could be done within the
Jaws keyboard manager or, in the Settings Center using a Jaws feature /
function I wasn't aware of.  Thunderbird was an example, but no matter 
what

the program is, it sounds like that programs coding would have to be
modified, & that would be the only way.  Thanks much for the verification.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels


You want to do this without modifying any dictionary if I understand you
correctly.

It sounds like you want to break in to the code for thunderbird and
reprogram what the key labels read out. Sounds tuff to me, above my pay
scale.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:08 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Hi All,

Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other
than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws
dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it
possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would
someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be 
greatly

appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] skype scripts

[Daniel MacDonald]

hello,
skype scripts for JAWS you can get at dlee.org
Daniel

On 5/28/17, Dennis Long  wrote:
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>
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Hi, where do you get skype scripts for Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

You are right, but that name change from Security Essentials to Defender 
only applies to Windows 10.


In earlier versions of Windows, XP, 7 and 8,Defender was just an anti 
malware program that protected you from email borne attacks, you had to 
update Defender to Security Essentials if you also want general anti 
virus protection as well.


Later...



On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hi folks.
Just want to clarify something. Unless I'm wrong (and someone feel free to
correct me if I am), MSE has been replaced by Windows Defender. I guess the
two programmes are probably very similar. I've never used MSE but since
getting this Windows 10 machine I've been running Windows Defender and it is
indeed quite accessible, but if you want to read some of the information it
provides the JAWS cursor does seem like the way to do it. It isn't strictly
speaking necessary though. The thing about Windows Defender is that, unlike
other AV programmes, it is designed to be as unobtrusive and unnoticeable as
possible. And it's also built into the oS, which kind of gives it an
advantage. However it isn't rated as highly as Kasperski or Bit Defender in
its ability to detect and halt viruses. I'd say though that a 94% success
rate is good enough for most home users and will cover much of the stuff
that's out there "in the wild", so to speak. My old work used Scan from
network Associates, and I imagine they paid an exorbitant amount of money
for the license to do so, and that programme was terrible. I'd rely on
Windows Defender, a programme bundled "free" with your oS, before that crap
anyday.

But you should also get MalwareBytes to scan for malware and exploits,
because they are not the same as viruses and the two types of programmes do
not do the same thing.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS
because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump
through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best anti
virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting with a
program that isn't really accessible.

Later...


On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:

  if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[Gene Warner]

Doing something like that might be possible if you knew enough about 
JAWS scripting. Beyond that, you'd have to use a resource editor and 
modify what Thunderbird currently labels Shift+F5 as. And that assumes 
that Thunderbird is coded to use resource data to define dialogs and 
menus, rather than dynamically building them at run time.


Later...


On 5/28/2017 3:36 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hola Señor Ferrin,

yes, but basically, I just wanted to know if it could be done within the
Jaws keyboard manager or, in the Settings Center using a Jaws feature /
function I wasn't aware of.  Thunderbird was an example, but no matter what
the program is, it sounds like that programs coding would have to be
modified, & that would be the only way.  Thanks much for the verification.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels


You want to do this without modifying any dictionary if I understand you
correctly.

It sounds like you want to break in to the code for thunderbird and
reprogram what the key labels read out. Sounds tuff to me, above my pay
scale.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:08 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Hi All,

Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other
than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws
dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it
possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would
someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[Mike B.]

Hola Señor Ferrin,

yes, but basically, I just wanted to know if it could be done within the 
Jaws keyboard manager or, in the Settings Center using a Jaws feature / 
function I wasn't aware of.  Thunderbird was an example, but no matter what 
the program is, it sounds like that programs coding would have to be 
modified, & that would be the only way.  Thanks much for the verification.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels


You want to do this without modifying any dictionary if I understand you
correctly.

It sounds like you want to break in to the code for thunderbird and
reprogram what the key labels read out. Sounds tuff to me, above my pay
scale.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:08 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Hi All,

Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other
than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws
dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it
possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would
someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[JM Casey]

Hi folks.
Just want to clarify something. Unless I'm wrong (and someone feel free to
correct me if I am), MSE has been replaced by Windows Defender. I guess the
two programmes are probably very similar. I've never used MSE but since
getting this Windows 10 machine I've been running Windows Defender and it is
indeed quite accessible, but if you want to read some of the information it
provides the JAWS cursor does seem like the way to do it. It isn't strictly
speaking necessary though. The thing about Windows Defender is that, unlike
other AV programmes, it is designed to be as unobtrusive and unnoticeable as
possible. And it's also built into the oS, which kind of gives it an
advantage. However it isn't rated as highly as Kasperski or Bit Defender in
its ability to detect and halt viruses. I'd say though that a 94% success
rate is good enough for most home users and will cover much of the stuff
that's out there "in the wild", so to speak. My old work used Scan from
network Associates, and I imagine they paid an exorbitant amount of money
for the license to do so, and that programme was terrible. I'd rely on
Windows Defender, a programme bundled "free" with your oS, before that crap
anyday.

But you should also get MalwareBytes to scan for malware and exploits,
because they are not the same as viruses and the two types of programmes do
not do the same thing. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I've been using MS Security Essentials ever since I started using JAWS
because it was the only free anti virus that didn't require me to jump
through all kinds of hoops just to access it. It may not be the best anti
virus available, but it does work and it's better than fighting with a
program that isn't really accessible.

Later...


On 5/27/2017 7:40 AM, Tom Clary wrote:
>  if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please 
> let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[David Ferrin]

You want to do this without modifying any dictionary if I understand you 
correctly.


It sounds like you want to break in to the code for thunderbird and 
reprogram what the key labels read out. Sounds tuff to me, above my pay 
scale.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:08 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

Hi All,

Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other
than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws
dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it
possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would
someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

[David Ferrin]

With his email service actually. I just got off the phone with a Verizon 
tech support lady and she quoted me the server protocols ETC. and it still 
doesn't work. She is going to get back to me in around an hour and with luck 
I'll have spoken to my cousin and got his account information by that point. 
Honestly not hopeful on that last deal.


-Original Message- 
From: andy

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

I am sorry, I missed what the problemis?
Is it with Verizon wireless or Verizon home phone/internet/cable?

Thanks
Andy


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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

Thank you Gerald for your reply. I got it on one of my other email accounts
and copied out the phone number for their tech support people. Now with luck
they will figure out the problem.
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[JAWS-Users] Customizing Key Labels

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Is it possible to change what Jaws reports for particular keystrokes other 
than modifying the applications Jaws dictionary or the default Jaws 
dictionary?  For example, in Thunderbird, when pressing, Shift + F5, is it 
possible to make Jaws report, Getting Mail?  If this is possible, would 
someone please provide steps on how this is done?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[Inam Uddin]

Dear,
The matter of fact is that you are using windows 10 creater’s update and you 
were told the trick which is in windows 7.
As you said that you have 11 items in your setting, so press window+I now press 
tab key one time you will find 11 items press right arrows 4 times for 
personalization press enter there.
Press tab key there will be 6 items select the last one which is task bar press 
enter there.

Now keep pressing tab key until you hear select which icon appear on task bar 
link press space bar on it.
Now by pressing tab key, you will find all items which you want on task bar 
just press space on it to check it.
Now press tab key until home button and press alt+f4 that’s all.
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From: Rose
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

In Windows 10 anniversary on my computer there is no notification under
control panel.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

The default is for Windows to hide tray icons if they've been idle for a
while, JAWS respects this where Window Eyes may not. What I did was to go
into the control panel under notifications and checked the option to always
show all tray icons.

Hope that helps.

Later...



On 5/27/2017 9:26 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
> When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
> with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Adrian Spratt]

Gene, fortunately, invoking the JAWS cursor is easy. Just press the top-right 
key of the numpad, above the long +/PC cursor key. You can toggle between the 
JAWS and PC cursors by alternately pressing these two keys. Working with the 
JAWS cursor has two important functions. First, it enables you to move around 
the screen without accidentally pressing a control. Second, it often gives you 
more information than you can get with the PC cursor. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS 
cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative 
> for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Rose, read below.
The notification area and the notification Chevron button.
1. Press Windows key+I, for the Settings area.
2. Tab one time and right arrow to Personalization, press enter.
3. Tab one time and Arrow down to, Taskbar, press enter.
4. Tab many times to, Select which icons appear on the Taskbar link, press 
Enter.
5. You will land on the Home button.
6. Tab one time to,  always show all icons in the notification area button.
7. Make sure that Jaws says, just button, if Jaws says, button checked, press 
the Spacebar to maike it say, Just button.
8. If you have this checked, the Notification Chevron button will not show up 
on the Notification area of the Taskbar, it will just say, System tray area 
instead.
9. Now you can continue to tab across to all the items in your System tray.
10. Any items you wish to have showing, in the notification area of the 
Taskbar, make sure they say, button Checked.
11. Any items you do not wish to have showing in the Notification area of the 
Taskbar, make sure they just say, Button and not button checked.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rose
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

Notification in systray?  I have only speaker volume and my internet connection 
in the systray!  Before Windows 10 Jaws was there also at least.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

look in the w e windows enhanced app. it is probibly useing the option to show 
all icons even the hidden ones.
if you were to uncheck this option you would only have 2 in the list like jaws.
you probibly have to open the notification sheveron in the systray and unhide 
the icons before jaws will see them.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[net bat66]

they are there. just hidden.
you need to click on notification shevron then customize. there you can choose 
the icons you want to show. or click on show all icons.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

Notification in systray?  I have only speaker volume and my internet
connection in the systray!  Before Windows 10 Jaws was there also at least.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

look in the w e windows enhanced app. it is probibly useing the option to
show all icons even the hidden ones.
if you were to uncheck this option you would only have 2 in the list like
jaws.
you probibly have to open the notification sheveron in the systray and
unhide the icons before jaws will see them.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

[andy]

I am sorry, I missed what the problemis?
Is it with Verizon wireless or Verizon home phone/internet/cable?

Thanks
Andy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

Thank you Gerald for your reply. I got it on one of my other email accounts
and copied out the phone number for their tech support people. Now with luck
they will figure out the problem.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[Rose]

Notification in systray?  I have only speaker volume and my internet
connection in the systray!  Before Windows 10 Jaws was there also at least.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

look in the w e windows enhanced app. it is probibly useing the option to
show all icons even the hidden ones.
if you were to uncheck this option you would only have 2 in the list like
jaws.
you probibly have to open the notification sheveron in the systray and
unhide the icons before jaws will see them.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[Rose]

In Windows 10 anniversary on my computer there is no notification under
control panel.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

The default is for Windows to hide tray icons if they've been idle for a
while, JAWS respects this where Window Eyes may not. What I did was to go
into the control panel under notifications and checked the option to always
show all tray icons.

Hope that helps.

Later...



On 5/27/2017 9:26 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
> When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
> with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gene Warner]

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to 
the JAWS cursor and check it out.


Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:


It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the
major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by
using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor
will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your
database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the
History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But if
you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just fine
with JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Scorpio
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Gene Warner]

I don't need JAWS for work, when I lost my vision, I had so few working 
years left, that I decided to just retire early. But when I sit down in 
front of my computer, regardless of what I'm doing; emailing, surfing 
the web, playing game, online shopping or banking, the last thing I want 
or need is to have to fight with a program that refuses to work 
properly. So arfter a year and a half of fighting with JAWWS 17 and 18, 
I finally gave up and went back to JAWS16.


If I had discovered the Outlook Express that is usable on Windows 7 
before I started using Thunderbird, I'd probably be using it now.


Later...



On 5/27/2017 3:27 PM, Andrew James Bontrager wrote:

I've still got JAWS version 9 running on this Windows XP machine, along with 
Microsoft Word 2003 and Outlook Express.
I also have a Windows 7 laptop with JAWS 17 instaled. But sadly, on that 
computer, JAWS seems to get stuck and has to restart itself rather more 
frequently than I like. I can tell you, that makes for some very anxious 
moments when speech stops and will not restart.
My advice is, do what you need to, in order for you to do your job. If a newer 
version would give you better productivity, by all means upgrade it if you can.
In my case, if I want to use Windows 7, I have to use the later JAWS version. 
But after several attempts to fully upgrade, I only use that system as a backup.
Conversely, if you find that a piece of software isn't helping you, and you're 
spending time trying to force it to perform its function, it's best to go to an 
earlier version or try another program.
This is why I use the fine port someone made of Outlook Express to Windows 7. 
Why? because other email programs (and believe me, I've tried many) don't meet 
the requirements which OE has met for all these years.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[David Ferrin]

Interesting way to fix it, there is no wrong method if it works. I couldn't 
manage to walk him through that process. He is 88 years old and although he 
can read his email and follow the news technology has got his number so to 
speak.


He is smart enough, but that might be beyond him. Never the less I will keep 
this in mind as well. I appreciate all answers in this area folks, thanks 
for all that have responded and for those who might in the future.


-Original Message- 
From: Scott

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

I had problem with the change over too.  Was resolved when I unplugged 
router and plugged it back in.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 28, 2017, at 10:44 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:

My apologies Gerald as this email client is still acting up and as such 
your message came across blank to me. This only happens on this list with 
this computer. It might be something with Vipre or I might need to find 
another mail client for this system. Either way please send this message 
again and I will get it on one of my other systems.


I just subscribed two of my other email addresses so to be sure one of 
them will receive messages fine until I track down the problem with this 
one. Thanks in advance for replying again.


-Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change 
over





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Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 desktop

[Jim Flusche]

Hi, read below.
Making Program shortcut Icons, on your Desktop.
1. Press Enter on the Start button, or just press the Windows key.
2. Either press the up or down arrow key or Tab two times to, All Apps list box.
For example, making a shortcut for Word 2016.
3. After moving to the All Apps list box, Press the letter W, press the Down 
arrow key to, Word 2016.
4. After highlighting Word 2016, Press the Applications key.
5. Go down to, More sub menu, press the Right arrow, Arrow down to, Open file 
Location, press enter.
6. Again Press the Applications key, go down to, Send to, sub menu, Right arrow 
one time.
7. Down arrow to, Desk Top create shortcut, press enter.
You now have a shortcut Icon for Word 2016 on your desk top.
You can do these same steps to creat desktop icons, for all the other programs 
here under All Apps list box as well.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 6:20 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] win 10 desktop

I noticed that some icons are not on the desktop. there is none for eset anti 
virus and end it all that I installed the other day. windows f use to be able 
to search for a file or folder that I could create a desktop entry. 
how can I do this in win 10? thanks


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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[Scott]

I had problem with the change over too.  Was resolved when I unplugged router 
and plugged it back in.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 28, 2017, at 10:44 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
> 
> My apologies Gerald as this email client is still acting up and as such your 
> message came across blank to me. This only happens on this list with this 
> computer. It might be something with Vipre or I might need to find another 
> mail client for this system. Either way please send this message again and I 
> will get it on one of my other systems.
> 
> I just subscribed two of my other email addresses so to be sure one of them 
> will receive messages fine until I track down the problem with this one. 
> Thanks in advance for replying again.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:54 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over
> 
> 
> 
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[JAWS-Users] problem with the Verizon change over

[David Ferrin]

Thank you Gerald for your reply. I got it on one of my other email accounts 
and copied out the phone number for their tech support people. Now with luck 
they will figure out the problem.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[Gerald Levy]

Well, I made the switch from Verizon webmail to AOL Mail last Monday, and
encountered no problems.  The transition went smoothly, and I did not need
to change any POP3 settings to get WLM 2012 to work with AOL Mail.  Have you
or your cousin contacted AOL customer support?  You can call them toll-free
at800-827-6364.


Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

I personally am not on Verizon, how ever my cousin is and since the change
over last week he can no longer access his email. It works here if I setup
his email account but not for him as he lives across the state from me near
Philadelphia.

He is getting an error 0x800ccc0f which defies an answer and believe me I
have looked.

Verizon stated that ultimately all the end user needed to do would be to
change their password and I did that for him along with the other stuff on
the server side of things. So just after that I checked his email here,
entered his new password when the prompt popped up and all is well here. On
his end though things are not working so well unfortunately. I figure there
are a lot of you out there using the same email service so somebody ran in
to this issue and came up with the answer. If that is so please share it
with the list. This is a rather perplexing problem as so often happens with
computers, you can do it right and it still won’t work.

He and I both are using live mail 2012 and system resources are not an issue
at all.
David Ferrin
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-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

My apologies Gerald as this email client is still acting up and as such your
message came across blank to me. This only happens on this list with this
computer. It might be something with Vipre or I might need to find another
mail client for this system. Either way please send this message again and I
will get it on one of my other systems.

I just subscribed two of my other email addresses so to be sure one of them
will receive messages fine until I track down the problem with this one.
Thanks in advance for replying again.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over




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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[David Ferrin]

My apologies Gerald as this email client is still acting up and as such your 
message came across blank to me. This only happens on this list with this 
computer. It might be something with Vipre or I might need to find another 
mail client for this system. Either way please send this message again and I 
will get it on one of my other systems.


I just subscribed two of my other email addresses so to be sure one of them 
will receive messages fine until I track down the problem with this one. 
Thanks in advance for replying again.


-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over




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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[Gerald Levy]

Well, I made the switch from Verizon webmail to AOL Mail last Monday, and 
encountered no problems.  The transition went smoothly, and I did not need 
to change any POP3 settings to get WLM 2012 to work with AOL Mail.  Have you 
or your cousin contacted AOL customer support?  You can call them toll-free 
at800-827-6364.



Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

I personally am not on Verizon, how ever my cousin is and since the change
over last week he can no longer access his email. It works here if I setup
his email account but not for him as he lives across the state from me near
Philadelphia.

He is getting an error 0x800ccc0f which defies an answer and believe me I
have looked.

Verizon stated that ultimately all the end user needed to do would be to
change their password and I did that for him along with the other stuff on
the server side of things. So just after that I checked his email here,
entered his new password when the prompt popped up and all is well here. On
his end though things are not working so well unfortunately. I figure there
are a lot of you out there using the same email service so somebody ran in
to this issue and came up with the answer. If that is so please share it
with the list. This is a rather perplexing problem as so often happens with
computers, you can do it right and it still won’t work.

He and I both are using live mail 2012 and system resources are not an issue
at all.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Sophos

[Geno Stone]

When you installed it, did you create an account? IF, so, you just have to go 
in and enter in where you need to with your E-mail and password, Pretty much 
accessible, at least here. Windows Ten, waiting on the Creator up-date and the 
latest of Jaws 18. Geno

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:35 PM
To: List Jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sophos

Is anyone using Sohos Antivirus with JAWS? If so, how do yoiu get the home 
screen to read? The grahics only appear to be numbered. Window-Eyes won’t read 
anything, and NVDA reads some items. Thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[David Ferrin]

I personally am not on Verizon, how ever my cousin is and since the change 
over last week he can no longer access his email. It works here if I setup 
his email account but not for him as he lives across the state from me near 
Philadelphia.

He is getting an error 0x800ccc0f which defies an answer and believe me I 
have looked.

Verizon stated that ultimately all the end user needed to do would be to 
change their password and I did that for him along with the other stuff on 
the server side of things. So just after that I checked his email here, 
entered his new password when the prompt popped up and all is well here. On 
his end though things are not working so well unfortunately. I figure there 
are a lot of you out there using the same email service so somebody ran in 
to this issue and came up with the answer. If that is so please share it 
with the list. This is a rather perplexing problem as so often happens with 
computers, you can do it right and it still won’t work.

He and I both are using live mail 2012 and system resources are not an issue 
at all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] More on antivirus

[Debby]

Hi,

I don't know about Bitdefender, but the last I heard Casperski is not
accessible. My sister who is blind had it on her pc when she got it, and
when she had to do anything with Casperski, she would get a sighted neighbor
to help.

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] More on antivirus

I was going over the PCMag.com reviews for -anti-virus programs and
Bitdefender and Casperski have high ratings.  Malwarebytes is not so well
liked.  Does anyone have experience with these 2 or other paid virus
protection?

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting E-mail Recipients in Windows LiveMail

[Hans Pauli Sundstein]

Hi Tom.

As i wrote earlyer, you should be able to se what is found as you have typed 
2-3 or more letters of the name or e-mail address.
But there is no script for Jaws to handle this dialogbox, therefor you must 
press the tab key, to get the result available, and read the result with 
insert+up arrow.


You can continue typing more letters untill you find the correct receiver of 
the e-mail, and than go on with the subject and text field.


I know that this is'nt just as accessible as you knew from Window Eyes, but 
so is the reallity.


Hans Pauli.


Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: Tom Fairhurst

Dato: 27. maj 2017 22:12
Til: List Jaws
Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] Selecting E-mail Recipients in Windows 
LiveMail


I won’t write about this any more because I’m as tired of writing about it 
as you are of hearing about it. I have the latest version of Window Eyes, 
the latest version of NVDA, and the latest version of JAWS on my Windows 7 
64-bit Pro computer. Selecting E-mail recipients by typing in the To field 
works perfectly for me in Window-Eyes.I start hearing suggestions, and 
arrowing through the list, they are spoken and can be selected. In JAWS, 
nothing is spoken, and no suggestions appear. The Read Current Line and 
arrow keys only read my typed text. When I tab out and back into the field, 
only my typed text appears. In NVDA, likewise, when I start typing in the To 
field, I can only read my typed text. If I arrow down or up, I still  only 
hear my typed text. However, if I tab out and then back into the field, I 
hear the first suggestion spoken. If I were to type some letters and arrow 
down twice and then tab out and back, I would hear the third suggestion in 
the To field. These results would be expected. Thus, the  suggestion 
information is populating properly, but NVDA won’t read it. Strange indeed. 
Thanks so much for everyone’s help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gerald Levy]

It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the major 
components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by using it. 
For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor will provide 
details about your most recent scan and whether your database definitions 
are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the History tab will provide 
details on any detected malware threats. But if you prefer not to use the 
JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just fine with JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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