[JAWS-Users] to dennis, the fox 2 Detroit website and jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi,
I thought of something. You may want to make a jaws frame which surrounds the 
umute button, give it a keyboard command and tells it to click the button 
inside the frame after routing the jaws cursor there, and only appears when it 
sees you are in chrome and on that website. It only activates then. Next, 
assign it a keyboard command and make it say something so you know it worked. 
And then assign another jaws frame to the play button using jaws frames viewer. 

Josh


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[JAWS-Users] jaws and eloquence switching languages

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
On my bank’s website, sometimes eloquence switches to Spanish even though the 
whole site is in English. How do I turn off eloquence and jaws switching to 
other languages automatically? 

Josh


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[JAWS-Users] jaws2018 and libre office or open office?

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi,
Does jaws2018 work good either with libre office or openoffice? Or if I want a 
free office to use with jaws home edition, is it best to just use google chrome 
and google office? 

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws hotkey loads my old Jaws 18

[Josh Kennedy]

Did you try deleting the old jaws18 shortcut so only jaws2018 is on your 
desktop? This was a last resort for me, but I was having some major jaws 
issues. I reset the computer telling it to delete all files and apps and stuff, 
after that everything behaved as normal. 

Josh


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From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 09:35
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws hotkey loads my old Jaws 18

Hi All,

I have two computers running W10 and latest Jaws 2018. I have changed the
Jaws hotkey on both computers back to ctrl + alt + J on the Jaws 2018 and
have check on my Jaws 18 and it has none in the hotkey field. Now when I
turn Jaws off and press the hotkey it starts Jaws 18 instead of Jaws 2018
even though I do not have a hotkey in Jaws 18. This is doing the same thing
on both my computers. The reason I notice this was after installing the
latest May update to Jaws I reset the hotkey and tried it and figured out it
was starting Jaws 18 instead of Jaws 2018. Does anyone know why this is
happening on both my computers? Does anyone know how to correct this or is
this happening on some ones else computer?

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[JAWS-Users] edit boxes and jaws and at prime helper

[Josh Kennedy]

HI
I noticed on the internet if I am writing in a comments field, NVDA tells me it 
is a multiline edit, whereas Jaws just says edit. Can this be changed somehow 
so jaws tells me the different types of edit fields more clearly? Also in 
windows mail, when I read a message, then press escape, I always have to shift 
tab back to the imbox. Can this be changed somehow so I am placed back into the 
inbox or message list right away? This issue seems to not be screen reader 
specific though. 
And also in windows mail. When in the message body, jaws just says message. Is 
there a way to have jaws indicate this is an edit box or document input area? 
Finally, a number of years ago, vict consultancy was working on a windows 
accessibility helper called at prime, this would let all screen readers access 
information and stuff on the screen that normally was not visible to screen 
readers. I would love to see VFO take over at prime and maybe either 
incorporate it into jaws, or sell it as a separate product. This way jaws could 
read and access even more on screen information. 

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws won't automatically start

[Josh Kennedy]

Sure if you could email that registry file to me at:

joshknnd1...@gmail.com

Thanks


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From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:58
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws won't automatically start

Hi Josyh.
A few things: Why did you deactivate your old Jaws before installing 
the new version? When I was confident about version 2018 and no 
longer wanted to use version 18, I simply uninstalled it without 
deactivating it. It may be that the activation information applies to 
all versions and you may have removed it all.
The same applies to Eloquence, which you needn't have uninstalled.
As for Jaws not starting automatically, when you enter the relevant 
dialogue and check both boxes, okay that and reopen the same 
dialogue. Check whether the settings stuck. When this happened to me, 
I had to have Jaws tech support escalate my case until an actual Jaws 
developer told me which registry keys needed to be added. If you are 
uncomfortable editing the registry, I could privately email you a 
.reg file that you only need to open and okay. Windows 10 will import 
the registry settings.
At 07:08 AM 5/22/2018, Josh Kennedy wrote:
 >Hi
 >I bought jaws yesterday with two sma counts. Made sure my other jaws
 >version was deactivated using the utility. Uninstalled and deactivated
 >codeFactory sapi5 eloquence to avoid the the mida error. Reinstalled
 >jaws2018. Set it to start using the all users setting both the
 >checkbox and combo box. Made sure jaws is checked in ease of access
 >center in control panel in windows10 version 1803. Jaws comes on at
 >the sign on screen. But when windows starts I have to start it
 >manually with the keyboard shortcut I set up. It won't start
 >automatically by itself. Also when activating it, I got a cannot find
 >iexplore.exe error, hit ok, and it said activation is successful.
 >Could this have something to do with it? Do I have to reset windows10?
 >joshknnd1...@gmail.com
 >
 >Josh
 >
 >
 >Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer 
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[JAWS-Users] jaws2018 crashing in windows10 mail app

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
Sometimes when entering into a message to read it, then if I hit alt for the 
ribbon, arrow right to reply all, hit enter, jaws crashes when the message edit 
window opens. Has anyone else experienced this? I hope it will be fixed in the 
next jaws version.

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

[Josh Kennedy]

Yes I know about how to navigate quick settings. I haven’t used jaws in about 
10 years though, that was back when the state agency bought it for me. But 
thanks to a nice combination of things, I am now able to buy it myself without 
the help of a state agency. Which is very nice! 


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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 08:45
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

While focus is in a browser, open JAWS quick settings with JAWS key+v. An edit 
field will appear. Type the word "spell" (without quotations. Wait a moment, 
then arrow down to the results. Are you familiar with how to navigate quick 
settings?

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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

Hi
When reviewing text in edit boxes and browsers. Jaws keeps saying misspelled 
for words that I know are not misspelled. How do I turn this off?

Josh


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[JAWS-Users] jaws saying misspelled in browsers

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
When reviewing text in edit boxes and browsers. Jaws keeps saying misspelled 
for words that I know are not misspelled. How do I turn this off?

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] mp3 gain crashing jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

I found jaws crashes sometimes with windows10 mail app. For those times, I 
switch to NVDA, do what I have to in the particular program and then when done 
shut NVDA off and switch back to jaws. 


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From: Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 01:35
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] mp3 gain crashing jaws

Try saying mp3 gain worked on a previous version on windows.  Its in
compatibility settings.

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Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] mp3 gain crashing jaws

Hello Listers,

Every time I try and use mp3gain and jaws 2018 on my windows 10 1803 64 bit
desktop, jaws crashes.  I have to manually reload it.  Can some one please
help?

Thanks

Michael

skype/email:

mikeam...@earthlink.net

iPhone email:

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[JAWS-Users] jaws won't automatically start

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
I bought jaws yesterday with two sma counts. Made sure my other jaws version 
was deactivated using the utility. Uninstalled and deactivated codeFactory 
sapi5 eloquence to avoid the themida error. Reinstalled jaws2018. Set it to 
start using the all users setting both the checkbox and combo box. Made sure 
jaws is checked in ease of access center in control panel in windows10 version 
1803. Jaws comes on at the sign on screen. But when windows starts I have to 
start it manually with the keyboard shortcut I set up. It won’t start 
automatically by itself. Also when activating it, I got a cannot find 
iexplore.exe error, hit ok, and it said activation is successful. Could this 
have something to do with it? Do I have to reset windows10? 
joshknnd1...@gmail.com

Josh


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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows update in windows 8.1

[Josh Kennedy]

I'm not sure. you do know that if you are blind you can still update to 
windows10 for free. I found some stuff that I want to run does not work 
on windows8 and windows8.1.


but no it should not take an hour it should take no more than 2 or 3 
minutes to check for updates.




On 10/27/2016 4:24 PM, anna vimini wrote:
thanks but I am asking if it is normal for windows 8.1  to take over 
an hour to check for windows updates?


Re: [JAWS-Users] windows update in windows 8.1
I am running windows10 professional 64bit and it just takes 1 or 2 
minutes for windows to check for updates.


On 10/27/2016 3:54 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
is it normal for windows update to take over an hour to check for 
updates?


i KNOW i ASKED THIS QUESTIONearlier but I am asking it again because 
it took over an hour to check for windows updates and it only found 
one update I figured

since it was taking so long it would have found more than one.

That is why I am asking this question if it is normal to take over an 
hour to check for updates?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows update in windows 8.1

[Josh Kennedy]

I am running windows10 professional 64bit and it just takes 1 or 2 
minutes for windows to check for updates.





On 10/27/2016 3:54 PM, anna vimini wrote:
is it normal for windows update to take over an hour to check for 
updates?


i KNOW i ASKED THIS QUESTIONearlier but I am asking it again because 
it took over an hour to check for windows updates and it only found 
one update I figured since it was taking so long it would have found 
more than one.


That is why I am asking this question if it is normal to take over an 
hour to check for updates?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

[Josh Kennedy]

this tablet has the following specs.

RCA cambio with detachable physical keyboard and detachable physical mouse.

windows10 home 32bit full version.

microsoft office mobile.

1 or 2 full size USB ports.

32gigs storeage with sd card expansion.

intel atom quad core 1.8ghz processor.

2gigs of ram.

you snap the tablet into the keyboard when you want to use it as a 
laptop and windows10 switches to pc mode. hold down on the physical 
keyboard and pull the screen off, take the screen away and use it as a 
regular touch screen tablet for consuming content.




On 10/27/2016 2:02 AM, The Iowa Gal wrote:

Ok. If it's running Windows 10, why not just install the appropriate version
of Jaws, I think that would be v. 17+, run it in demo mode, and see how you
get along with it. I would imagine you would have to be pretty good typing
on a touch screen unless you use an external keyboard. I can't imagine using
Jaws without a full qwerty keyboard but that's me. I mean, I know Jaws has
implemented touch cursor stuff but how would one emulate holding down
insert+B, for example? I guess one could run Jaws in laptop mode and use the
caps lock as the Jaws key, but, wow, this seems like a lot of work while
using a touch screen. Perhaps some of the others on this list with more
knowledge about this topic can chime in here and enlighten us. Unless you're
married to this tablet, you might want to go for one running Android or IOS.




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Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

the RCA cambio runs windows10 full version, home, 32bit.



On 10/26/2016 6:05 PM, The Iowa Gal wrote:

Josh, you'll need to Google and see what OS that tablet is running. I
think it might be Android, but not sure. HTH Norma


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

so would an RCA cambio with a quad core atom processor 32gig storeage
and 2gigs ram work ok?



On 10/26/2016 1:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
A tablet that runs a full desktop Windows operating system will work
with JAWS 17.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

 do I need to get a tablet with win 8.1, or win 10, to put jaws 17 on?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pandora and Jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

I helped a friend buy it about 2 weeks ago and it worked then.



On 10/26/2016 11:03 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

It no longer works, as Janine wrote. The "Eyes on Success" podcast had a recent 
episode where the guest, Henter of Henter-Joyce fame, gave some useful Pandora shortcuts. 
If I track down the link, I'll post it. Maybe someone else heard it and noted it.

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Of Josh Kennedy
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pandora and Jaws

yes, the hope client for $10. it is at

q-continuum.net or something like that.




On 10/26/2016 5:08 PM, Janine Smith wrote:

Can any of you guys recommend an accessible Pandora client that works with 
Jaws. I downloaded Hope but that just keeps saying that the programme has 
stopped working every time I open it and try to log in. I am using Jaws 17 and 
Windows 10 pro. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

[Josh Kennedy]

the RCA cambio runs windows10 full version, home, 32bit.



On 10/26/2016 6:05 PM, The Iowa Gal wrote:

Josh, you'll need to Google and see what OS that tablet is running. I think
it might be Android, but not sure. HTH Norma


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

so would an RCA cambio with a quad core atom processor 32gig storeage and
2gigs ram work ok?



On 10/26/2016 1:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
A tablet that runs a full desktop Windows operating system will work with
JAWS 17.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

do I need to get a tablet with win 8.1, or win 10, to put jaws 17 on?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pandora and Jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

yes, the hope client for $10. it is at

q-continuum.net or something like that.




On 10/26/2016 5:08 PM, Janine Smith wrote:

Can any of you guys recommend an accessible Pandora client that works with 
Jaws. I downloaded Hope but that just keeps saying that the programme has 
stopped working every time I open it and try to log in. I am using Jaws 17 and 
Windows 10 pro. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Regards Janine

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

[Josh Kennedy]

so would an RCA cambio with a quad core atom processor 32gig storeage 
and 2gigs ram work ok?




On 10/26/2016 1:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
A tablet that runs a full desktop Windows operating system will work with
JAWS 17.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:07 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

   do I need to get a tablet with win 8.1, or win 10, to put jaws 17 on?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

[Josh Kennedy]

also how well will jaws work on the $100 to $150 tablets such as RCA 
cambio windows10 tablets?




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   do I need to get a tablet with win 8.1, or win 10, to put jaws 17 on?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer expressive voices 2.2 for Jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

what is unique about the vocalizer2.2 voices? and when can we download 
them for jaws? and will they work with the 40 minute demo of jaws?


I sure wish they had a jaws for office like they do a window eyes for 
office. Then as long as I had microsoft office installed jaws would work 
as a fully licensed copy.




On 10/26/2016 8:06 AM, Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
wrote:

It can only work with 18, the older versions will still use the old Vocaliser 
and the old ones won't show up in JAWS18 as soon as you install one of the new 
ones.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer expressive voices 2.2 for Jaws

hi! all,
anyone know that  the up coming  Vocalizer expressive voices 2.2 :
Does it only work in Jaws 18 or higher!
  or it can work with Jaws 17 as well?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws17 sapi5 crashing

[Josh Kennedy]

its not just jaws but NVDA also crashes so must be an issue with this 
particular sapi5 synth.




On 10/23/2016 9:52 PM, Mike B. wrote:

 Hi Josh,
Try the following:
1. Press, Insert / Jaws key, Control, + S, to open your Voice Profiles
options.
2. Arrow up or down to, Eloquence, & press enter.
HTH
Take care.
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   Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 6:22 PM
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws17 sapi5 crashing


   hi

   using a demo of jaws17, i switched to sapi5 and this particular tts
   engine is crashing jaws. and now when i load jaws it talks for a second
   or 2 and crashes. how do i switch jaws back to regular eloquence maybe
   from a command line prompt or something or modding a configuration file
   manually?


   thanks


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[JAWS-Users] jaws17 sapi5 crashing

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

using a demo of jaws17, i switched to sapi5 and this particular tts 
engine is crashing jaws. and now when i load jaws it talks for a second 
or 2 and crashes. how do i switch jaws back to regular eloquence maybe 
from a command line prompt or something or modding a configuration file 
manually?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Use NVDA on Clickable Elements within a Web Page?

[Josh Kennedy]

in laptop mode i press capslock shift m to route the mouse then capslock 
left bracket to click it.




On 10/21/2016 2:57 PM, Kenny wrote:

Hello,

  


Ok, I can't believe the free NVDA screen reader is able to read a clickable
element on a web page that JAWS wasn't able to see at all?

  


Now my problem is trying to get the NVDA mouse tracking function to Route
pointer to the browse cursor? In JAWS I would press [Insert]+[- on numpad]
to route JAWS cursor to virtual cursor and left click (That's if JAWS saw
the clickable element which it doesn't.)

  


So in NVDA, I'm navigating the web page using the arrow keys in Browse mode.
Then I land on the clickable element which is contained in a table cell. I
need the mouse pointer to left click it. Tried pressing [Insert]+[/ on
Numpad] then hitting [/ on numpad] to do this but it's not working.

  


Does NVDA have a special way of activating a clickable element on a web
page? And no, pressing the [Enter] key doesn't work. Must use the mouse
pointer to left click it.

  


The element isn't a conventional link or banner. It's a graphic created by a
JAVA script of some type.

  


Am I'm even using the right steps?

  


If I'm able to do this successfully, I'm going to think twice before
investing another $140+ on my JAWS SMA when it expires. It's obvious the
programmers of NVDA are more in tuned on providing useful functions to users
of their screen reader in their updates.

  


Been using JAWS sense version 2.0 (My serial number is only 4 digits) so
this definitely isn't an easy decision for me.

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[JAWS-Users] jaws demo and orbit20

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

I want to test and use the orbit20 with jaws17/18. But the prototype 
manual says I need a jaws setup program a special orbit jaws drivers 
program to make it work? where can I get this setup program from? you 
can read more about what i need at


tech.aph.org/or20


or should i just have orbit20 emulate a refreshabraille18 for now?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] orbit20 recording

[Josh Kennedy]

I hope some day soon this new braille cell technology will make the old 
expensive piezoelectric braille displays obsolete.




On 10/14/2016 8:11 PM, Jorge Rivas wrote:

Hi Josh,
What are you trying to create???
Jorge

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] orbit20 recording

regarding the orbit20 prototype recording, this recording is extra loud due
to the mic i used. in reality the sound is much quieter. there are also
other factors in play that make the recording louder than it is in reality.
keep this in mind when you listen to the recording. this is a very close-up
somewhat distorted recording. I have no idea what or how the final product
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Re: [JAWS-Users] orbit20 recording

[Josh Kennedy]

I am or I havve tried to make a good recording. that is all. I have 
created nothing but a recording of the orbit reader20 very low cost 
braille display prototype by american printing house for the blind... 
that i am testing out. this braille display is going to, I hope, really 
really lower the cost of refreshable braille. so far I really like the 
prototype testing unit. It works great! and I can't wait to buy the 
final product once it is out. orbit20 will cost $499 for a brand new 
unit everything included. I will test the prototype with jaws tomorrow 
morning.




On 10/14/2016 8:11 PM, Jorge Rivas wrote:

Hi Josh,
What are you trying to create???
Jorge

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] orbit20 recording

regarding the orbit20 prototype recording, this recording is extra loud due
to the mic i used. in reality the sound is much quieter. there are also
other factors in play that make the recording louder than it is in reality.
keep this in mind when you listen to the recording. this is a very close-up
somewhat distorted recording. I have no idea what or how the final product
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[JAWS-Users] orbit20 recording

[Josh Kennedy]

regarding the orbit20 prototype recording, this recording is extra loud 
due to the mic i used. in reality the sound is much quieter. there are 
also other factors in play that make the recording louder than it is in 
reality. keep this in mind when you listen to the recording. this is a 
very close-up somewhat distorted recording. I have no idea what or how 
the final product will sound.



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[JAWS-Users] orbit reader20 recording

[Josh Kennedy]

here is a good recording of orbit20 prototype in action very good clear 
recording of it. the link is below. comment by emailing 
joshknnd1...@gmail.com




https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5454959/2016_10_14-18_00_58.ogg


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[JAWS-Users] OT orbit reader 20 email list

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

i just found out there is now an orbit reader 20 email list, to 
subscribe, email a blank message to



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[JAWS-Users] jaws and itunes support

[Josh Kennedy]

hey someone emailed me saying jaws is dropping support for itunes in 
jaws18 and beyond? is this true or will jaws continue to work with 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fwd: We may see some really great Sounding TTS in the near feature

[Josh Kennedy]

make sure you have the latest firefox and adobe flash installed. or hit 
f5 to refresh the page perhaps that would help.




On 9/12/2016 11:19 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

I was unable to hear any of the samples.  Everything said unavailable.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

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Without them, humanity cannot survive.
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On 9/12/2016 7:57 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:




 Forwarded Message 
Subject: We may see some really great Sounding TTS in the near 
feature

Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:01:48 -0700
From: Warren Carr <warc...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com
To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com



I was reading a blog post from WaveNet and I was blown away by some 
of the stuff that they are doing.


I can’t wait to have those voices on our devices!

Here’s is the extract, followed by the URL to the page, and be sure 
to head over to that page, and take a listen to some of those voices.


If you don’t want to read while you are on the page, you can simply 
hit letter B, to take you to the “play button.”


The first ones are demonstrating how the current Google TTS sound, 
and then the latter ones, demonstrate the more modern sounding ones.


There are a couple other languages in there besides U.S. English and 
Chinese.


Quote:

This post presents WaveNet

, a deep generative model of raw audio waveforms. We show that 
WaveNets are able to generate speech which mimics any human voice and 
which sounds more


natural than the best existing Text-to-Speech systems, reducing the 
gap with human performance by over 50%.


We also demonstrate that the same network can be used to synthesize 
other audio signals such as music, and present some striking samples 
of automatically


generated piano pieces.

Talking Machines

Allowing people to converse with machines is a long-standing dream of 
human-computer interaction. The ability of computers to understand 
natural speech


has been revolutionised in the last few years by the application of 
deep neural networks (e.g., Google Voice Search ). However, 
generating speech with computers


 — a process usually referred to as

speech synthesis

or text-to-speech (TTS) — is still largely based on so-called 
concatenative TTS , where a very large database of short speech 
fragments are recorded from


a single speaker and then recombined to form complete utterances. 
This makes it difficult to modify the voice (for example switching to 
a different speaker,


or altering the emphasis or emotion of their speech) without 
recording a whole new database.


This has led to a great demand for parametric TTS

, where all the information required to generate the data is stored 
in the parameters of the model, and the contents and characteristics 
of the speech


can be controlled via the inputs to the model. So far, however, 
parametric TTS has tended to sound less natural than concatenative, 
at least for syllabic


languages such as English. Existing parametric models typically 
generate audio signals by passing their outputs through signal 
processing algorithms known


as

vocoders .

WaveNet changes this paradigm by directly modelling the raw waveform 
of the audio signal, one sample at a time. As well as yielding more 
natural-sounding


speech, using raw waveforms means that WaveNet can model any kind of 
audio, including music.


WaveNets

Wave animation

Researchers usually avoid modelling raw audio because it ticks so 
quickly: typically 16,000 samples per second or more, with important 
structure at many


time-scales. Building a completely autoregressive model, in which the 
prediction for every one of those samples is influenced by all 
previous ones (in


statistics-speak, each predictive distribution is conditioned on all 
previous observations), is clearly a challenging task.


However, our PixelRNN and PixelCNN

 models, published earlier this year, showed that it was possible to 
generate complex natural images not only one pixel at a time, but one 
colour-channel


at a time, requiring thousands of predictions per image. This 
inspired us to adapt our two-dimensional PixelNets to a 
one-dimensional WaveNet.


Architecture animation

The above animation shows how a WaveNet is structured. It is a fully 
convolutional neural network, where the convolutional layers have 
various dilation


factors that allow its receptive field to grow exponentially with 
depth and cover thousands of timesteps.


At training time, the input sequences are real waveforms recorded 
from human speakers. After training, we can sample the network to 
generate synthetic


utterances. At each step during sampling a value is drawn from the 
probability distribution computed by the network. This value is then 
fed back into the


input and a new prediction for the next step is made. Building up 
samples one step at a time like this is computationally expensive, 
but we have

[JAWS-Users] Fwd: We may see some really great Sounding TTS in the near feature

[Josh Kennedy]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:We may see some really great Sounding TTS in the near feature
Date:   Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:01:48 -0700
From:   Warren Carr 
Reply-To:   eyes-f...@googlegroups.com
To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com



I was reading a blog post from WaveNet and I was blown away by some of 
the stuff that they are doing.


I can’t wait to have those voices on our devices!

Here’s is the extract, followed by the URL to the page, and be sure to 
head over to that page, and take a listen to some of those voices.


If you don’t want to read while you are on the page, you can simply hit 
letter B, to take you to the “play button.”


The first ones are demonstrating how the current Google TTS sound, and 
then the latter ones, demonstrate the more modern sounding ones.


There are a couple other languages in there besides U.S. English and 
Chinese.


Quote:

This post presents WaveNet

, a deep generative model of raw audio waveforms. We show that WaveNets 
are able to generate speech which mimics any human voice and which 
sounds more


natural than the best existing Text-to-Speech systems, reducing the gap 
with human performance by over 50%.


We also demonstrate that the same network can be used to synthesize 
other audio signals such as music, and present some striking samples of 
automatically


generated piano pieces.

Talking Machines

Allowing people to converse with machines is a long-standing dream of 
human-computer interaction. The ability of computers to understand 
natural speech


has been revolutionised in the last few years by the application of deep 
neural networks (e.g., Google Voice Search ). However, generating speech 
with computers


 — a process usually referred to as

speech synthesis

or text-to-speech (TTS) — is still largely based on so-called 
concatenative TTS , where a very large database of short speech 
fragments are recorded from


a single speaker and then recombined to form complete utterances. This 
makes it difficult to modify the voice (for example switching to a 
different speaker,


or altering the emphasis or emotion of their speech) without recording a 
whole new database.


This has led to a great demand for parametric TTS

, where all the information required to generate the data is stored in 
the parameters of the model, and the contents and characteristics of the 
speech


can be controlled via the inputs to the model. So far, however, 
parametric TTS has tended to sound less natural than concatenative, at 
least for syllabic


languages such as English. Existing parametric models typically generate 
audio signals by passing their outputs through signal processing 
algorithms known


as

vocoders .

WaveNet changes this paradigm by directly modelling the raw waveform of 
the audio signal, one sample at a time. As well as yielding more 
natural-sounding


speech, using raw waveforms means that WaveNet can model any kind of 
audio, including music.


WaveNets

Wave animation

Researchers usually avoid modelling raw audio because it ticks so 
quickly: typically 16,000 samples per second or more, with important 
structure at many


time-scales. Building a completely autoregressive model, in which the 
prediction for every one of those samples is influenced by all previous 
ones (in


statistics-speak, each predictive distribution is conditioned on all 
previous observations), is clearly a challenging task.


However, our PixelRNN and PixelCNN

 models, published earlier this year, showed that it was possible to 
generate complex natural images not only one pixel at a time, but one 
colour-channel


at a time, requiring thousands of predictions per image. This inspired 
us to adapt our two-dimensional PixelNets to a one-dimensional WaveNet.


Architecture animation

The above animation shows how a WaveNet is structured. It is a fully 
convolutional neural network, where the convolutional layers have 
various dilation


factors that allow its receptive field to grow exponentially with depth 
and cover thousands of timesteps.


At training time, the input sequences are real waveforms recorded from 
human speakers. After training, we can sample the network to generate 
synthetic


utterances. At each step during sampling a value is drawn from the 
probability distribution computed by the network. This value is then fed 
back into the


input and a new prediction for the next step is made. Building up 
samples one step at a time like this is computationally expensive, but 
we have found


it essential for generating complex, realistic-sounding audio.

Improving the State of the Art

We trained WaveNet using some of Google’s TTS datasets so we could 
evaluate its performance. The following figure shows the quality of 
WaveNets on a scale


from 1 to 5, compared with Google’s current best TTS systems (

parametric and concatenative

), and with human speech using

Mean Opinion Scores (MOS)

. MOS are a standard 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 18 Beta and mouse echo

[Josh Kennedy]

just to let you all know mouse echo is nothing new. NVDA has had very 
good mouse echo for the past 6 years or so now. Jaws is pretty much just 
now copying what NVDA has already done. Making jaws run faster and 
restricting virtual cursor to dialogs on websites is good though and I 
may use that feature.




On 9/10/2016 9:42 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

Hello all:

After listening to the latest Freedom Scientific podcast  in which Eric
Damri tells us about the innovations of the upcoming update of JAWS to
version 18, the new regular mouse echo motivated me to do what I usually do
not do, to install and try  the Beta 1 version.

I did and was pleasantly surprised with the functionality of JAWS 18, so far
so good, it seems fast, works well with Outlook 2016, IE 11, Skype and
everything I have done so far, I am happy with it and have already asked the
VA  to update me, although unfortunately, they do not purchase SMAs, they
wait until the production version comes out.

I just want to make two ubservations:  the first one is that the
transferring of all the custom settings from JAWS 17 to JAWS 18, although
the dialog came up and I went through it, did not happen; I had to make the
changes manually.

The second is that the mouse echo seems to work very well, but for someone
totally blind like me, it will take some practice to learn to use it
efficiently, to know where the icons and other controls, as well as the
borders, are on the screen; also through practice, learn to move it slower,
for  I tend to move it too fast.

All in all however, I recommend all users of JAWS 17 to try it, I think it
is worth it.

Kind regards,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida
  



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[JAWS-Users] jaws on tablets?

[Josh Kennedy]

hey

does anyone use jaws 17 on a tablet? if so how well does it work? what 
kind of tablet do you use? would an RCA cambio with intel atom quad core 
processor windows10 32bit 2gigs ram work good?



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[JAWS-Users] mathML and jaws

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

I know with jaws we can read math content on the web and I guess, see it 
in nemeth on a braille display. but is there any way we can easily write 
mathML and edit equations alongside sighted people and they see our 
changes in print and we see theirs in braille?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

[Josh Kennedy]

with libreoffice can you view graphs or charts in spreadsheets, and does 
the virtual pc cursor work like it does in ms word?




On 8/13/2016 6:22 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, 
and most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open 
Office, but it was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office 
is. Take care.

David Moore


-Original Message- From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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[JAWS-Users] graphiti braille display

[Josh Kennedy]

will jaws have support for the graphiti display see this website.


http://www.aph.org/graphiti/


This is a good few months away ;though. it would be nice to pick a 
graphic in a window or on a website and actually see it using graphiti. 
then I could really see what whether radar looks like and lots of things.





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[JAWS-Users] text boxes in word

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

is it possible to read and edit text boxes in word with jaws?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] New action center in W-10 anniversary update

[Josh Kennedy]

if you want it right now just use the microsoft media creation tool and 
force it to upgrade.




On 8/5/2016 5:52 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:


Is nice that most are playing with new w10. Still waiting for it 
download and install. I am in Chicago but I am looking to play 
withiwth with it when it comes. If it comes.

-Original Message- From: James Flusche
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 2:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New action center in W-10 anniversary update

Hi Jaws users list, as I figure things out, I will let you all know. 
Below is what I have learned for the new action center.

Using the new action center in the Windows 10 anniversary update.
How to choose what items show up in the action center.

1.   Press Windows key+I, takes you to the settings area edit box.

2.   Tab one time to the list of 9 main categories.

3.   Press enter on system, tab one time to the list of 
sub-categories.


4.   Down arrow three times to, Notifications and actions, press 
enter.


5.   Tab one time to, a current list of quick actions on your PC.

6.   Press the right arrow key to see all the current pinned items 
in the action center on your PC.


7.   Tab one time to, Add or remove quick actions link, press enter.

8.   You will land on the home button, begin tabbing across here.

9.   Use the spacebar to check, or to uncheck any items that will 
show up in the action center.


10.   Press ALT+f4, when you are done.

11.   Now when you press Windows key+A, for the action center.

12. I landed on notification, because I had some in action center.

13.   I down arrowed to read the notification.

14.   I tabbed one time to, dismiss this notification, press the 
spacebar.


15.   . Now tab one time to the first quick action in action center.

16.   Now simply use your right arrow key to go across all the items 
you have selected to show up in action center.


17.   The first item you should land on after pressing Windows key+A, 
is, collapsed quick actions or current notifications if you have any.


18.   If you have any notifications, just press the down arrow key to 
read them.


19.   Tab one time to, list box, use your right arrow key to read the 
quick actions.


20.   Again, after pressing Windows key+A, you will land on one of two 
things. Either collapsed quick actions if you have no notices, or 
current notifications, if you have new notifications. So when you tab 
one time, you will hear either, clear this notification, or you will 
hear the first quick action, just press the right arrow key if you 
land on the first quick action to see the rest of the quick actions in 
the action center.


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[JAWS-Users] task manager win10 anniversary

[Josh Kennedy]

hey the task manager is working just fine control tab and control shift 
tab work i just make sure i am focused on the tabs first so it tells me 
what I am moving to.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

[Josh Kennedy]

I have upgraded with no issues. well I mostly use NVDA I have a jaws 
demo on here as a secondary screen reader in case i need it for 
something. I hope though that VFO or freedom scientific makes a free 
jaws tied to ms-office or something though so I don't have to restart 
every 40 minutes. because I think jaws is better and has some more 
useful features than window eyes does.




On 8/4/2016 6:16 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not quite: FS is aware of display compatibility issue. If you don't get the
error, you can go ahead nad upgrad,e otherwise it is best to wait for a
while.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

or just do what i did. bypass it and use the free microsoft media creation
tool and choose upgrade.



On 8/4/2016 4:40 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,
I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607 propagate
throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom Scientific (now

VFO)

are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those upgrading

via

MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some third-party

screen

readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who said it
affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and others sent out
yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows
Update, or if you really like to use MCT, you need to fiddle around in
Device Manager, uninstall whichever display driver is offending MCT

(trying

to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable to use
Windows Update.
The advisories and related threads are:
* Update to 1607, no go:


https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=,,,20,0

,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501
* Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up:


https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321788?p=

,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788
* Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this:


https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/2327524?p

=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524
For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant discussion around
Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are many
things new, changed, fixed and removed, including:
* Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully in
consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that, with the
Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into core basic

components

will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update (PC's,
smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)).
* Vastly improved UI Automation.
* Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions (touch

cursor

must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows traditional
ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came from a recent Main
Menu podcast).
* Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described earlier.
* New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme, projecting
screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC, app notification
priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows Insider Program, ability to
prevent Windows Update from being attempted at a predefined time period,
rearrange and enable/disable quick actions and more.
* Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app.
* Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially returns (see
Jim's notes).
* Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close instead

of

focus moving to a quick action.
* Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications.
* Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event, potentially
confusing screen readers. A slight modification to FSUIA or related UIA
handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to recognize window open event
instead and to keep an eye on UIA attribute differences between normal and
priority toasts.
* Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should be
employed in some cases).
* For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need to go
deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this easily (or in

some

cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education, Enterprise and
Education.
* You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose.
* Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) image
(x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel 3.4 API

and

so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel modules,
such as Speakup will not run.
* User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by XAML
(eXtensible

Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

[Josh Kennedy]

the free microsoft media creation tool gets you around the display 
error. just run it and choose upgrade let everything else at their 
defaults.




On 8/4/2016 5:48 PM, James Flusche wrote:

Yes, I agree about waiting for the anniversary update to come through the
windows update. I tried many times to manually update to the anniversary
update, using Jaws, and narrator. No luck, the same error about the display
came up. No, I would not advise removing the accessibility driver for Jaws.
I would advise waiting for the windows update to show the anniversary
update.



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Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

Hi all,
I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607 propagate
throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom Scientific (now VFO)
are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those upgrading via
MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some third-party screen
readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who said it
affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and others sent out
yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows
Update, or if you really like to use MCT, you need to fiddle around in
Device Manager, uninstall whichever display driver is offending MCT (trying
to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable to use
Windows Update.
The advisories and related threads are:
* Update to 1607, no go:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=,,,20,0
,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501
* Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321788?p=
,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788
* Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/2327524?p
=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524
For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant discussion around
Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are many
things new, changed, fixed and removed, including:
* Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully in
consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that, with the
Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into core basic components
will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update (PC's,
smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)).
* Vastly improved UI Automation.
* Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions (touch cursor
must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows traditional
ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came from a recent Main
Menu podcast).
* Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described earlier.
* New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme, projecting
screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC, app notification
priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows Insider Program, ability to
prevent Windows Update from being attempted at a predefined time period,
rearrange and enable/disable quick actions and more.
* Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app.
* Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially returns (see
Jim's notes).
* Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close instead of
focus moving to a quick action.
* Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications.
* Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event, potentially
confusing screen readers. A slight modification to FSUIA or related UIA
handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to recognize window open event
instead and to keep an eye on UIA attribute differences between normal and
priority toasts.
* Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should be
employed in some cases).
* For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need to go
deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this easily (or in some
cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education, Enterprise and
Education.
* You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose.
* Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) image
(x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel 3.4 API and
so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel modules,
such as Speakup will not run.
* User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by XAML
(eXtensible application Markup Language), the UI technology that powers
universal apps.
* You can pin apps or some windows from apps across virtual desktops.
* You cannot share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts.
* Windows 

Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

[Josh Kennedy]

or just do what i did. bypass it and use the free microsoft media 
creation tool and choose upgrade.




On 8/4/2016 4:40 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,
I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607 propagate
throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom Scientific (now VFO)
are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those upgrading via
MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some third-party screen
readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who said it
affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and others sent out
yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version 1607 to show up on Windows
Update, or if you really like to use MCT, you need to fiddle around in
Device Manager, uninstall whichever display driver is offending MCT (trying
to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable to use
Windows Update.
The advisories and related threads are:
* Update to 1607, no go:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=,,,20,0
,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501
* Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321788?p=
,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788
* Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/2327524?p
=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524
For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant discussion around
Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are many
things new, changed, fixed and removed, including:
* Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully in
consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that, with the
Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into core basic components
will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update (PC's,
smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)).
* Vastly improved UI Automation.
* Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions (touch cursor
must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows traditional
ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came from a recent Main
Menu podcast).
* Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described earlier.
* New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme, projecting
screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC, app notification
priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows Insider Program, ability to
prevent Windows Update from being attempted at a predefined time period,
rearrange and enable/disable quick actions and more.
* Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app.
* Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially returns (see
Jim's notes).
* Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close instead of
focus moving to a quick action.
* Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications.
* Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event, potentially
confusing screen readers. A slight modification to FSUIA or related UIA
handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to recognize window open event
instead and to keep an eye on UIA attribute differences between normal and
priority toasts.
* Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should be
employed in some cases).
* For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need to go
deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this easily (or in some
cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education, Enterprise and
Education.
* You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose.
* Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) image
(x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel 3.4 API and
so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel modules,
such as Speakup will not run.
* User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by XAML
(eXtensible application Markup Language), the UI technology that powers
universal apps.
* You can pin apps or some windows from apps across virtual desktops.
* You cannot share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts.
* Windows Ink to centralize pen support and to provide a workspace for pen
and touchscreen users.
* Windows+Shift+C instead of Windows+C to invoke Cortana.
* Windows+Alt+D to open time and calendar.
* Ability to change audio devices straight from Volume Control (there is a
split button to do this).
* Windows+F is used to open Feedback Hub app with screenshots. Consequently,
there is no more Insider Hub nor Windows Feedback apps.
* Windows Insider Program participants will get first of a series of builds
for Redstone 2 sometime this month, with the next stable build scheduled for
2017.
* No more 260 character limit for file paths (raised to 32K chars).
* General performance improvements were observed.

Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect

[Josh Kennedy]

you can force windows to give you the update by downloading and running 
the media creation tool and choose the upgrade radio button.




On 8/4/2016 3:58 PM, Holger wrote:

Still waiting for the update




Holger Fiallo
Send from my iPhone


On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:33 PM, James Flusche  wrote:

Hi Jaws user list.
Hi group, I just did a Jaws tandem into Ed's new laptop which is running the 
anniversary update of W-10.

The settings area, changes:

1.   After pressing Windows key+I, you are now in the search edit box.

2.   Tab one time to the category list of 9 main categories.

3.   After pressing enter on any of these categories, again you are in the 
search edit box, just tab one time to the list of sub-categories.

4.   . The first sub-category is always selected for you.

5.   Just begin tabbing across the choices.

6.   Again Jaws speaks too much information, just like at the first.

7.   Always press, insert+Tab, this makes Jaws repeat what control you are 
sitting on.

8.   There are many new sub-categories in this new update.

9.   I found a few places where Jaws had a hard time.

10.   But overall, worked pretty good, at times, too much speaking.

The start button area:

1.   After pressing the windows key, or pressing enter on the start button.

2.   You are in the search edit box.

3.   Tab one time to, the navigation button.

4.   Press the down arrow to get to all your shortcuts, Documents, 
downloads, personal folders, and power button.

5.   Tab again to, your list of apps and programs.

6.   First letter navigation only works from say, A to B. From whatever 
letter you are currently in to, to the next letter, no further.

7.   Tab again to, the live tile region.

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[JAWS-Users] Fwd: Windows 10 newbee help needed

[Josh Kennedy]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Windows 10 newbee help needed
Date:   Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:00:34 -0400
From:   Chris Chaffin 
Reply-To:   m...@jfw.groups.io
To: m...@jfw.groups.io



I have a friend that has upgraded to windows 10 and is having a hard time 
learning how to get around.  He is coming from windows 7, so the learning curve 
might be a little more.  Is there a podcast or something out there that can 
help introduce him to windows 10?  I do not know if it matters, but he is using 
the Jaws screen reader, version 17.

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris


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[JAWS-Users] windows 10 anniversary update

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

the windows 10 anniversary update did not come to my machine yet so I 
will go get it manually I think. if you want to get it without waiting, 
here is how from this website



https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/08/02/how-to-get-the-windows-10-anniversary-update/




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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

[Josh Kennedy]

so even though DecTalk is there DecTalk access32 is there in jaws17 you 
still cannot use it?




On 7/28/2016 5:46 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

And, for the record, Dectalk USB is, or was, astoundingly expensive, but 
nothing like the old Dectalk from the defunct Digital Equipment Corp.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

DecTalk sapi5 is free but doesn't sound much like original decTalk, don't know 
what they did to it. and decTalk access32 works fine in windows 10.



On 7/28/2016 2:33 PM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

Dectalk Access32 was originally sold and serviced by Hinter Joice,
which is now Freedom scientific.  But I doubt that it is still available from 
them.
There was also a version sold by GW Micro, the makers of WindowEyes.
But JAWS quit allowing that version to be used somewhere around Jaws
11 or Jaws 12.
Dectalk Access32 from Freedom Scientific works fine in Windows XP.
But as far as I know, it will not work on any subsequent version of
Windows, (Vista, 7 8 or 10).  So I'm a little surprised that it is
still available in JAWS 16 and 17, which cannot be used with Windows XP.

There are a couple of things that claim to be Dectalk, but to me the voices
are not Dectalk.   The first one is an external synthesizer named Dectalk
USB and the second is a software synthesizer called Dectalk Sapi5.  I
don't have any detailed information about either one of these options.


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On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

I see that in the synthesizer and braille manager you can choose
decTalk
access32 software. do you have to buy decTalk access32, and if so from
where, and how much does it cost?


Josh



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

[Josh Kennedy]

DecTalk sapi5 is free but doesn't sound much like original decTalk, 
don't know what they did to it. and decTalk access32 works fine in 
windows 10.




On 7/28/2016 2:33 PM, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

Dectalk Access32 was originally sold and serviced by Hinter Joice, which is
now Freedom scientific.  But I doubt that it is still available from them.
There was also a version sold by GW Micro, the makers of WindowEyes.  But
JAWS quit allowing that version to be used somewhere around Jaws 11 or Jaws
12.
Dectalk Access32 from Freedom Scientific works fine in Windows XP.  But as
far as I know, it will not work on any subsequent version of Windows,
(Vista, 7 8 or 10).  So I'm a little surprised that it is still available in
JAWS 16 and 17, which cannot be used with Windows XP.

There are a couple of things that claim to be Dectalk, but to me the voices
are not Dectalk.   The first one is an external synthesizer named Dectalk
USB and the second is a software synthesizer called Dectalk Sapi5.  I don't
have any detailed information about either one of these options.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

I see that in the synthesizer and braille manager you can choose decTalk
access32 software. do you have to buy decTalk access32, and if so from
where, and how much does it cost?


Josh



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[JAWS-Users] other jaws lists?

[Josh Kennedy]

hi
are there any more jaws email lists, ones that are very very high 
traffic? I remember a few years ago I was on a jaws list that had a 
whole lot of emails on it. if there is such a list what is it called and 
how do i subscribe to the very high traffic jaws list? or is that what 
the Tech talk list is for?



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[JAWS-Users] jaws and decTalk access32

[Josh Kennedy]

I see that in the synthesizer and braille manager you can choose decTalk 
access32 software. do you have to buy decTalk access32, and if so from 
where, and how much does it cost?



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[JAWS-Users] more voices for jaws and other apps

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

Could you all who want more voices for jaws and other apps please 
contact freedom scientific and ask them to include a version of 
international tts with any jaws install even jaws demo which i use, an 
international tts utility that lets sapi4 voices be seen and used by 
sapi5 only applications also please ask them that this international tts 
should be a free utility and have no watermark and no timed trial 
limitations makes sense since nearly all sapi4 voices are free. then we 
could use voices such as TruVoice and microsoft mary mike and sam with 
jaws.



thanks


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[JAWS-Users] sapi4-sapi5 bridge was Re: what to do with Jaws when upgrading to windows10

[Josh Kennedy]

I also left microsoft some feedback through their windows10 app asking 
them to include a sapi4 to sapi5 bridge in a future windows update, that 
way sapi5-only-apps such as jaws could see and use both sapi4 and sapi5 
tts engines.




On 7/26/2016 9:05 PM, Scorpio wrote:
I haven't seen any mention of how this fact is known to Microsoft, 
though I am leaning towards Microsoft having a built-in detector, but 
once I hear of how they plan to do this, I will let you know.


Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what to do with Jaws when upgrading to 
windows10


...but how does Microsoft, or the installation wizard know that we are 
using
the assistive technology? Do we trust that the detection is built in 
to the

installer, to give us a "free pass"?

Or do we need to self-identify at any point during the install 
process, or

when downloading the OS file?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Scorpio" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 06:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what to do with Jaws when upgrading to 
windows10



Not sure if you've been informed, though it's been posted several 
times over
the course of a few months, there is no deadline for persons using 
assistive

technology to upgrade to Windows 10.

Assistive technology users can do this anytime from now until the end of
eternity, or Microsoft says so, which ever comes first.

Since you use Jaws, that is considered assistive technology, and so 
you're

not subject to the July 29 deadline.

Scorpio

-Original Message- From: Jason Smith
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] what to do with Jaws when upgrading to windows10

Hi list, I posted this question a few days ago, but didn't see it
appear on the list. So I am resending it. I am about to upgrade my
windows7 desktop to windows10 before the free upgrade option runs out
at the end of the month. From what i understand. We have to uninstall
all versions of Jaws etc running on our computers. Do the windows10
upgrade and then install jaws again. Is this correct? If so, how are
we meant to run the upgrade if we don't have any speech? In addition,
do we need to use the FS uninstall tool as mentioned? If so, do we run
that after uninstalling Jaws? Or do we use that to uninstall jaws? O!
and usually we get told not to choose the remove shared componants
option when uninstalling Jaws. Since they want us to remove all
versions of Jaws. Should I choose this option this time? And are there
any other things I should do when upgrading to windows10? Thanks Jason

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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible media player other than windows

[Josh Kennedy]

yes vlc has an equalizer but i don't know how to use it.



On 7/26/2016 2:33 PM, Subash wrote:
Does vlc media player have an equalizer like Windows Media player or 
winamp?


-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible media player other than windows

how about the free vlc media player.



On 7/26/2016 10:34 AM, Annie Weidman wrote:
I'm looking for an accessible media player other than windows media 
player that will work with Jaws 13 that will play older DVD's. 
Windows media player will play newer ones, but gives me an error 
message (something about analog settings?) when older ones are 
attempted. VLC media player will play them, but will not give Jaws 
commands. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible media player other than windows

[Josh Kennedy]

how about the free vlc media player.



On 7/26/2016 10:34 AM, Annie Weidman wrote:

I'm looking for an accessible media player other than windows media player that 
will work with Jaws 13 that will play older DVD's. Windows media player will 
play newer ones, but gives me an error message (something about analog 
settings?) when older ones are attempted. VLC media player will play them, but 
will not give Jaws commands. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] infovox 230 old synthecizer

[Josh Kennedy]

I am interested in that also! and it just so happens I can get it for 
you. the link is below and below that is my request. the link for the 
old synthesizer is:



http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/infovox%20files.7z


infovox230 is abandonware and so is keynote gold multimedia. you can 
unzip it with the free 7zip program. can you do me a favor? if you can 
get it working in windows10 please please let me know because this is 
one of my favorite tts engines. and also the guy from www.code-it.com is 
going to work or try and work on a small utility that will let us use 
any sapi4 voice under sapi5 so for example you will be able to use 
TruVoice or the old microsoft sapi4 voices with sapi5-only jaws or with 
sapi5-only games and other sapi5-only applications. it will let sapi4 
voices show up under sapi5 and be used by sapi5-only  applications such 
as jaws17. so if all goes well the old infovox230 could finally be 
sapi5. now if we could get keynote gold multimedia to work on modern 
systems that would also be excellent.





On 7/24/2016 12:37 PM, Eyþór Kamban Þrastarson wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know if and how it is possible for me to get my hands on the old
Infovox 230 Synthecizer. I want to see if I can make these voices work with
my Jaws if it is at all possible legally. B

Est

Eythor

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[JAWS-Users] more voices for jaws idea

[Josh Kennedy]

I had an idea for more voices for the jaws screen reader. Jaws only 
supports sapi5 voices. So I was wondering if there are any developers on 
here or maybe even if freedom scientific could make a free sapiBridge 
utility? First you would install the utility, it would install the sapi4 
components if needed and one free voice maybe truVoice sapi4 or the 
older microsoft sapi4 voices. You go into a utility with a multi page 
dialog box each tab lets you assign sapi5 voices bridge1 through 10. you 
pick your sapi4 voice in the combo boxes there would be a button to let 
you quickly access the sapi4 speech control panel some sapi4 voices let 
you change other parameters with this control panel. so you pick your 
sapi4 voices you want to assign to sapi5. hit save. restart computer if 
needed. then when you load jaws which only sees sapi5 voices it would 
let you use sapi4 voices as if they were sapi5. Note if someone would 
make sapi bridge please make it so the bridge would also work outside of 
jaws like in the late jim kitchen's games and other applications. with 
sapi bridge any older sapi4 voice could become a sapi5 voice. also the 
bridge would monitor for crashes try to reload the voice if it crashes 
if it can't it plays a sound. I would love to use truVoice or the old 
FlexTalk with jaws and jim's games and other audio games but I cannot 
because they only support sapi5, so we need a sapi bridge for more voice 
choices.


thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws voice

[Josh Kennedy]

press insert f2, then hit s until you hear settings center, then hit enter.



On 7/17/2016 3:55 PM, Kevin wrote:

excuse me for being stupid but how do you go into the jaws settings

-Original Message- From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws voice

Hi Kevin,

After updating to the latest J17 build I had to go into the Jaws context
menu / options / Voices / Voice Adjustment, & make changes to the 
following:


PC Cursor Voice
Jaws Cursor Voice
Keyboard Voice
Tutor and Message Voice

What you might be hearing is the voice pitch changes of the above 
settings.
All the above default settings have various pitch settings which will 
make
things sound weird / different than what you're used to with your 
preferred

settings.

As far as Jaws changing languages, go into the Settings Center default 
all

applications, arrow down to, Text Processing, right arrow to open, down
arrow to, Detect Languages, uncheck this box, tab to, Okay, press 
enter to

save the change & close.

You can also turn the, Language Detect Change, option off in Jaws quick
settings, Insert + V, for individual applications.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - From: Kevin
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws voice


I don't think I did, but I never made it a point to remember stuff like
this!


-Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws voice

Did you have this problem with previous releases of JAWS? If not, I 
wonder

if it's related to the memory usage query that Aaron posted earlier.

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Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws voice

I have found at certain points when I use my computer, jaws voice 
changes.

usually it is smooth and very understandable other points it is grumbly.I
have also experienced jaws announceing text in another language and 
what is
displayed on my computer screen is english because I’ve had a sighted 
person

check.
what’s going on with jaws, I’m using jaws 17 latest.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freeDots

[Josh Kennedy]

it is already paired with the freeDots braille music transcriber 
application. but freeDots will not open this xml file. I used muse score 
to convert a midi file to music xml.




On 6/30/2016 11:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

These .xml files are proving to be a nightmare. I believe you'll find the 
default association is Internet Explorer, which makes little sense for the 
types of file you're using, any more than it does for the files I am. In my 
case, a certain supposedly tech-savvy organization disseminates .xml files as 
text documents, but IE can't read them. I succeeded in changing the file 
association to MS Word, which partially solved my problem, even though the 
original format is lost. I spoke to FS about it last week, and the tech support 
guy sounded doubtful that JAWS can read .xml files at all.

Try changing the file association. With any luck, you'll pair the file type with an 
application that works well for your purposes. I don't know which OS you have. In Win7, 
go to the Windows edit field, start typing file association, and a list will appear. You 
want the one under "control panel."

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:36 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freeDots

I tried opening a music xml file i converted from midi to music xml with 
muse-score then tried opening the xml file in freedots and it would not open. 
is muse score xml not compatible with freeDots?



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[JAWS-Users] jaws and freeDots

[Josh Kennedy]

I tried opening a music xml file i converted from midi to music xml with 
muse-score then tried opening the xml file in freedots and it would not 
open. is muse score xml not compatible with freeDots?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw 13

[Josh Kennedy]

no you need at least jaws 17 or higher.




On 6/27/2016 9:13 PM, john wrote:

Hi Does anyone know if JFW13.0 works well with Win 10? Thanks
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[JAWS-Users] orbit reader20 braille display

[Josh Kennedy]

hey i hope that this will work with jaws see website


http://www.aph.org/research/orbit-reader-20-details/



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[JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone more info

[Josh Kennedy]

here is more info on windows 10 redstone.


http://www.winbeta.org/tags/redstone



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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone

[Josh Kennedy]

redstone will be coming out in the next two or 3 months. it will be a 
major update to windows10 with some of the user interface completely 
being redone. along with some new text to speech voices as well. and 
sorry for the double posting.




On 6/15/2016 12:03 PM, Roger Levine wrote:

Hello,
What is RedStone Windows 10?


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone

hi

when redstone windows 10 comes out will jaws 17 work with it?





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[JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone?

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

does anyone know if jaws17 will be ok when we get the windows 10 
anniversary update otherwise known as redstone?





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[JAWS-Users] windows 10 redstone

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

when redstone windows 10 comes out will jaws 17 work with it?



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[JAWS-Users] jaws and tablets

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

what are the best tablets to use with jaws17 june update? will an RCA 
cambio windows10 tablet work or is the surface pro tablet better? 
actually all i can afford right now is the RCA cambio tablet.



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[JAWS-Users] pandora app

[Josh Kennedy]

hi with the pandora app the touch cursor is not letting me access the 
delete and cancel buttons in the pandora app. how do i access these?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Things that make you go hmm

[Josh Kennedy]

what does that mean?



On 6/14/2016 12:43 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

JAWS and WindowEyes under the same umbrella?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

[Josh Kennedy]

and enter activates or taps stuff on the simulated touch screen.



On 6/14/2016 1:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
You would use arrow keys (usually left and right arrows on the numpad) to
navigate between controls.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

After activating it, hows navigation done?

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Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi, to answer your question re touch cursor using a pc, press shift and
numpad plus To switch back to the PC cursor press the numpad plus twice
quickly hth

-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

What about for those of us who have a pC?  How do we get there? I have a
desktop.

-Original Message-
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

then in laptop mode hit capslock shift semicolon to activate the jaws touch
keyboard cursor.



On 6/13/2016 6:05 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am using a PC. No touch screen.

-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, June 12,
2016
10:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
W10 news app when the touch cursor is active press page up or page
down to set what you want up and down arrows to move by.



On 6/12/2016 4:59 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

How do I set to regent? I am just learning w10.

-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi,
The news app is very accessible. I use the touch cursor and press
right and left arrows to go to the different articles, and I have it
set to regions to go by when I press the down and up arrow keys. Take
care.


-Original Message- From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Is the news app accessible? I am learning to use w10. So far so good.
I setup it as w7 and I am able to access email by using WLM. Using
IE. I like it so far.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

[Josh Kennedy]

tab and shift tab right left up and down arrows and page up and page down.



On 6/14/2016 1:22 AM, Kimsan wrote:

After activating it, hows navigation done?

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Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi, to answer your question re touch cursor using a pc, press shift and
numpad plus To switch back to the PC cursor press the numpad plus twice
quickly hth

-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

What about for those of us who have a pC?  How do we get there? I have a
desktop.

-Original Message-
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

then in laptop mode hit capslock shift semicolon to activate the jaws touch
keyboard cursor.



On 6/13/2016 6:05 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am using a PC. No touch screen.

-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, June 12,
2016
10:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users]
W10 news app when the touch cursor is active press page up or page
down to set what you want up and down arrows to move by.



On 6/12/2016 4:59 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

How do I set to regent? I am just learning w10.

-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi,
The news app is very accessible. I use the touch cursor and press
right and left arrows to go to the different articles, and I have it
set to regions to go by when I press the down and up arrow keys. Take
care.


-Original Message- From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Is the news app accessible? I am learning to use w10. So far so good.
I setup it as w7 and I am able to access email by using WLM. Using
IE. I like it so far.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

[Josh Kennedy]

look in jaws help thats all i can say as i use the laptop keyboard 
layout and i hit capslock shift semicolon to activate the touch cursor.




On 6/13/2016 6:18 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
What about for those of us who have a pC?  How do we get there? I have 
a desktop.


-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

then in laptop mode hit capslock shift semicolon to activate the jaws
touch keyboard cursor.



On 6/13/2016 6:05 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am using a PC. No touch screen.

-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, June 12, 
2016 10:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] W10 news app
when the touch cursor is active press page up or page down to set 
what you want up and down arrows to move by.




On 6/12/2016 4:59 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

How do I set to regent? I am just learning w10.

-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi,
The news app is very accessible. I use the touch cursor and press 
right and
left arrows to go to the different articles, and I have it set to 
regions to

go by when I press the down and up arrow keys. Take care.


-Original Message- From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Is the news app accessible? I am learning to use w10. So far so good. I
setup it as w7 and I am able to access email by using WLM. Using IE. 
I like

it so far.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

[Josh Kennedy]

yes and even some document cameras for faster scanning.



On 6/13/2016 5:51 PM, Mark Brett wrote:

Will it work with most modern scanners then?

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: 13 June 2016 22:21
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Scanning documents...

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Hi what is open book used for?

  

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text

[Josh Kennedy]

press capslock space then o then question mark and it will tell you how 
to use jaws OCR. it works very well.




On 6/13/2016 3:45 PM, Vicki wrote:

I've never used it. Can you please give me an idea how it works?

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text



how about jaws OCR? will that work?




On 6/13/2016 11:17 AM, Vicki wrote:
My problem is that with .png files, the freedom import option 
doesn't show up. It does with other graphic files, but not .png files.



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<dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text



Vickie,

Correct. Use the Freedom Import Printer feature built in to 
Openbook 8.0.


Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Vicki" <vwher...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 04:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


I have Openbook, but it is version 8.0, so .png isn't a file option.

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<dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


You will need some OCR software to do it. Kurzweil, Openbook, 
Omnipage

come
to mind. Use your iPhone to convert the text from the printed page 
with

one
of many apps to do it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


What if you don't have that option, what would be an alternative 
method?


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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text

Use the Freedom Import Printer feature that's built into Openbook.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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To: "JAWS" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 04:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


Does anyone know of a good program that will convert .png files to 
a word

or

text format so I can read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text

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how about jaws OCR? will that work?




On 6/13/2016 11:17 AM, Vicki wrote:
My problem is that with .png files, the freedom import option doesn't 
show up. It does with other graphic files, but not .png files.



- Original Message - From: "Dave Carlson" 


To: 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text



Vickie,

Correct. Use the Freedom Import Printer feature built in to Openbook 
8.0.


Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Vicki" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 04:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


I have Openbook, but it is version 8.0, so .png isn't a file option.

- Original Message - From: "Dave Carlson" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text



You will need some OCR software to do it. Kurzweil, Openbook, Omnipage
come
to mind. Use your iPhone to convert the text from the printed page with
one
of many apps to do it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


What if you don't have that option, what would be an alternative 
method?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text

Use the Freedom Import Printer feature that's built into Openbook.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Vicki" 
To: "JAWS" 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 04:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


Does anyone know of a good program that will convert .png files to a 
word

or

text format so I can read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

[Josh Kennedy]

then in laptop mode hit capslock shift semicolon to activate the jaws 
touch keyboard cursor.




On 6/13/2016 6:05 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

I am using a PC. No touch screen.

-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, June 12, 
2016 10:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] W10 news app
when the touch cursor is active press page up or page down to set what 
you want up and down arrows to move by.




On 6/12/2016 4:59 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

How do I set to regent? I am just learning w10.

-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi,
The news app is very accessible. I use the touch cursor and press 
right and
left arrows to go to the different articles, and I have it set to 
regions to

go by when I press the down and up arrow keys. Take care.


-Original Message- From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Is the news app accessible? I am learning to use w10. So far so good. I
setup it as w7 and I am able to access email by using WLM. Using IE. 
I like

it so far.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

[Josh Kennedy]

when the touch cursor is active press page up or page down to set what 
you want up and down arrows to move by.




On 6/12/2016 4:59 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

How do I set to regent? I am just learning w10.

-Original Message- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Hi,
The news app is very accessible. I use the touch cursor and press 
right and
left arrows to go to the different articles, and I have it set to 
regions to

go by when I press the down and up arrow keys. Take care.


-Original Message- From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W10 news app

Is the news app accessible? I am learning to use w10. So far so good. I
setup it as w7 and I am able to access email by using WLM. Using IE. I 
like

it so far.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text

[Josh Kennedy]

try using the jaws OCR to convert the file.



On 6/12/2016 3:35 PM, Vicki wrote:
I am not finding an option to convert .png files in my version of 
openbook.



- Original Message - From: "Dave Carlson" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text



Use the Freedom Import Printer feature that's built into Openbook.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - From: "Vicki" 
To: "JAWS" 
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 04:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] converting .png files to text


Does anyone know of a good program that will convert .png files to a 
word or

text format so I can read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off annoying video that plays on websites

[Josh Kennedy]

i think jaws needs to have an audio ducking feature like NVDA has and 
you could turn audio ducking on or off and also have jaws detect whether 
your pc volume is muted or very low and turn it up to 30% or 40 percent 
if needed when starting jaws and unmute sound so you can hear it.




On 6/11/2016 11:53 PM, leonard morris wrote:
While I totally agree video often interferes with trying to hear jaws 
when navigating websites, in Ie11 if turning off multimedia sounds 
wouldn't everything get disabled like Youtube videos and any sight 
where you wanted to actually hear the audio?   with



On 6/11/2016 4:25 PM, Fanus wrote:

Hello Kimber
I have the same problem now almost on any website I try to open with 
IE or FireFox. If you find a solution then please let me know. In the 
meantime I shall try

Jean’s suggestion.
Regareds
Fanus


From: Jean Menzies
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 7:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off annoying video that plays 
on websites


Not sure, but try this if using IE. Go to Tools, Advanced Options,
MultiMedia, and unselect Play Sounds in Web Pages. It will require a 
restart

of IE to take effect. Hope this heps.

Jean Mo

-Original Message-
From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to turn off annoying video that plays on 
web sites


Hi All,

I was attempting to read an interview on the Rolling Stone web site,
but almost as soon as I open the site, some really loud and very
annoying vvideo starts playing and I can't figure out how to turn it
off. The problem is the video is so loud that I can't hear jaws to
explore the sctreen or to read the interview. I'm pasting a link to
the interview if you care to see what I'm talking about. Is there a
jaws command that will turn off this noise?

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/stephen-king-on-trump-20160609

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kimber





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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC media player?

[Josh Kennedy]

yes it works great with windows10.



On 6/11/2016 11:44 AM, Gaston Bedard wrote:

Folks,
Does the VLC Media player work well with Windows 10?
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June-11-16 11:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC media player?

Thanks Mike! You're a life saver!

Vicky

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 8:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC media player?

Hi Vicky,

54 useful Keyboard Shortcuts for VLC Media Player:


http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/VLC-Media-Player.html

VLC Media Player Shortcuts

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
1. Most used
F
Fullscreen
Space
Pause or play movie
V
Subtitles on/off (or s)
B
Audio track cycle
Ctrl+Arrow Up/Ctrl+Arrow Down
Volume
table end

table with 2 columns and 4 rows
2. Mouse actions
Double click
Fullscreen
Scroll
Volume or Position (see settings)
Right click
Local menu (play controls, audio/video)
table end

table with 2 columns and 20 rows
3. Movie Navigation
Ctrl+D
Open disc menu
Ctrl+F
Open folder (browse folder menu)
Ctrl+R/Ctrl+S
Advanced open file
Ctrl+O
Open single file(s)
M
Mute and unmute audio
P
Play movie (from the very beginning)
S
Stop movie
Esc
Exit full screen mode
[+]/-/=
Faster, slower, normal
A
Aspect ratio
C
Crop screen
G/H
Decrease subtitle delay / Increase subtitle delay
J/K
Decrease audio delay / Increase audio delay
Z
Change zoom mode
Ctrl+1, Ctrl+2, Ctrl+3, Ctrl+4
Recent media (in Media - Recent media menu)
T
Show time
Ctrl+T
Goto time
E
Next Frame. Advance forward frame-by-frame
table end

table with 2 columns and 5 rows
4. Jump in playback
Shift+Arrow Left/Arrow Right
Very short jump (3 seconds)
Alt+Arrow Left/Arrow Right
Short jump (10 seconds)
Ctrl+Arrow Left/Arrow Right
Medium jump (1 minute)
Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Left/Arrow Right
Long jump
table end

table with 2 columns and 24 rows
5. Manage VLC, Playlists, and Special Commands
Ctrl+H
Hide / unhide controls
Ctrl+P
Preferences/ interface settings
Ctrl+E
Adjustments and audio/video effects
Ctrl+B
Edit bookmarks
Ctrl+M
Open messages
Ctrl+N
Open network
Ctrl+C
Open captue device
Ctrl+L
Open playlist
Ctrl+Y
Save playlist
Ctrl+I/Ctrl+J
Media information
Alt+A
Open audio menu
Alt+H
Open help menu
Alt+M
Open media menu
Alt+P
Open playlist menu
Alt+T
Open tool menu
Alt+V
Open video menu
Alt+L
Open playback menu
D
Show movie path
N
Play next movie from playlist
F1
Show Help
F11
Window full-screen (not equal to pressing F)
Alt+F4, Alt+q or Ctrl+Q
Quit VLC
Shift+S
Take a Snapshot / Screenshot
table end

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC media player?


Does anyone have some tips I can use to get started in learning how to work
with the VLC Media Player?

Many and very sincere thanks! Vicky
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[JAWS-Users] itunes play list

[Josh Kennedy]

hi

where in the newest itunes do you go to find your playlists now since 
they changed it?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC media player?

[Josh Kennedy]

spacebar pauses and plays stuff s for stop i think c also pauses hit 
insert 3 then control up and down arrow to raise and lower volume. alt 
key takes you to the menu bar.




On 6/8/2016 7:55 PM, Vicky Vaughan wrote:

Does anyone have some tips I can use to get started in learning how to work 
with the VLC Media Player?

Many and very sincere thanks! Vicky
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[JAWS-Users] jaws and vlc media player

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
I am a new user to jaws17 latest version of jaws. I use vlc to play my 
media files. when using jaws hitting control up and down arrow should 
let me raise and lower volume but when using jaws it does not it 
minimizes the program putting me on the desktop but with NVDA these 
shortcuts work. how do i get them to also work the right way with jaws 
so i don't have to switch back and forth between jaws and NVDA as much?


Josh

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