Re: [JAWS-Users] memo to the entire list

[John Vernaleken`]

Good Luck

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo to the entire list

The server this domain is being hosted is getting an upgrade in the next 
couple of days. What this means to you folks is that things might be a 
little out of sorts for a short time as our internet protocol or I. P. 
address is going to change. It is very likely that services will be 
disrupted while things propagate with all of the various servers around the 
world.

What that means is with the new address all of the servers need to be made 
aware of the new address and until that happens things will not be as smooth

until all of that activity is resolved.

The web site and the mailing list will both most likely be effected. Not to 
worry as all will return to what passes for normal around here in short 
order.

Nobody needs to do anything on their end, in fact all I have to do is enjoy 
the ride so to speak.

Thank you for your understanding in advance as this should improve services.

David Ferrin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

[John Fitzgerald]

Thank you.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 1:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

its a multi-media message.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 6/13/2018 12:38 AM, John Fitzgerald said:

>What is an mms message?
>
>John Fitzgerald
>Muse, Oklahoma
>Article V Convention of States
>http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of ratshtron
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:20 AM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>and if you want to send an mms message the virzon address is:
>
>##@vzwpix.com
>
>
>
>Legend has it that on Tuesday 6/12/2018 09:11 AM, David Ferrin said:
>
> >Since I am on Verizon any email sent to the address 10 digit
> >num...@vtext.com would land in my inbox and it is possible to reply
> >to the message.
> >
> >-Original Message- From: Mike B.
> >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53 PM
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
> >
> >Hi Orlando,
> >
> >Personally I'm running Windows 7 & 10 with Jaws 16 thru J2018, had to make
> >this a Jaws thing, & Outlook Express.  When I send out text messages from
my
> >computers I receive them back as replies to my Outlook Express In-box.  I
> >use a different email address for my iPhone than I do for my computers, but
> >I can access my iPhone emails from an identity / separate account I have
set
> >up on all my computers.  I know a lot of people that don't receive voice
> >mail, texts, & emails because of whatever cellular or internet hiccups, so
> >there's no way that I will risk not receiving something important because
> >all my messaging is controlled by someone elses server / the cloud.
> >Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> >Sent from my iBarstool.
> >- Original Message - From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
> >To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
> >
> >
> >Hi all. I realize this is somewhat off topic to Jaws.
> >Until Sprint stopped its Google Voice integration, I had all text
> >messages forwarded to my Gmail account and could reply to them as I
> >would any other email. For those of you who use carrier domain
> >addresses to email texts, how do you retrieve texted responses via
> >email? Do you email text messages and then retrieve replies on your phones?
> >
> >Orlando Enrique Fiol
> >Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
> >University of Pennsylvania
> >Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
> >and Pedagogue
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

[John Fitzgerald]

Ok, Thanks.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

Hi!
An MMS message, is when you text a photo or other file to someone and not just 
text!
David Moore



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From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

What is an mms message?

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

and if you want to send an mms message the virzon address is:

##@vzwpix.com



Legend has it that on Tuesday 6/12/2018 09:11 AM, David Ferrin said:

>Since I am on Verizon any email sent to the address 10 digit 
>num...@vtext.com would land in my inbox and it is possible to reply 
>to the message.
>
>-Original Message- From: Mike B.
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>Hi Orlando,
>
>Personally I'm running Windows 7 & 10 with Jaws 16 thru J2018, had to make
>this a Jaws thing, & Outlook Express.  When I send out text messages from my
>computers I receive them back as replies to my Outlook Express In-box.  I
>use a different email address for my iPhone than I do for my computers, but
>I can access my iPhone emails from an identity / separate account I have set
>up on all my computers.  I know a lot of people that don't receive voice
>mail, texts, & emails because of whatever cellular or internet hiccups, so
>there's no way that I will risk not receiving something important because
>all my messaging is controlled by someone elses server / the cloud.
>Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>Sent from my iBarstool.
>- Original Message - From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>
>Hi all. I realize this is somewhat off topic to Jaws.
>Until Sprint stopped its Google Voice integration, I had all text
>messages forwarded to my Gmail account and could reply to them as I
>would any other email. For those of you who use carrier domain
>addresses to email texts, how do you retrieve texted responses via
>email? Do you email text messages and then retrieve replies on your phones?
>
>Orlando Enrique Fiol
>Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
>University of Pennsylvania
>Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
>and Pedagogue
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

[John Fitzgerald]

What is an mms message?

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

and if you want to send an mms message the virzon address is:

##@vzwpix.com



Legend has it that on Tuesday 6/12/2018 09:11 AM, David Ferrin said:

>Since I am on Verizon any email sent to the address 10 digit 
>num...@vtext.com would land in my inbox and it is possible to reply 
>to the message.
>
>-Original Message- From: Mike B.
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>Hi Orlando,
>
>Personally I'm running Windows 7 & 10 with Jaws 16 thru J2018, had to make
>this a Jaws thing, & Outlook Express.  When I send out text messages from my
>computers I receive them back as replies to my Outlook Express In-box.  I
>use a different email address for my iPhone than I do for my computers, but
>I can access my iPhone emails from an identity / separate account I have set
>up on all my computers.  I know a lot of people that don't receive voice
>mail, texts, & emails because of whatever cellular or internet hiccups, so
>there's no way that I will risk not receiving something important because
>all my messaging is controlled by someone elses server / the cloud.
>Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>Sent from my iBarstool.
>- Original Message - From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>
>Hi all. I realize this is somewhat off topic to Jaws.
>Until Sprint stopped its Google Voice integration, I had all text
>messages forwarded to my Gmail account and could reply to them as I
>would any other email. For those of you who use carrier domain
>addresses to email texts, how do you retrieve texted responses via
>email? Do you email text messages and then retrieve replies on your phones?
>
>Orlando Enrique Fiol
>Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
>University of Pennsylvania
>Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
>and Pedagogue
>
>
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] re how to get focus 40 blue to stop panning

[JOHN RIEHL]

Thanks, Jacque! I really appreciate it. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jacques
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re how to get focus 40 blue to stop panning

Hi John,


I have found a toll free phone number at freedom scientific, where you can
get some help with your focus 40 blue braille display.

The number is:

1-888-666-6126


The technical support staff deal with braille display issues.


Good luck.


Jacques

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't assign hot key to jaws 2018

[John R Vaughn]

I get this as well, but while in the same dialogue box if I tab to continue
and enter on that, all is well.  In fact mine says something like "access
denied, you need administrator approval, but since I am the administrator, I
can tab to continue.
good luck.
John  
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:21 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't assign hot key to jaws 2018

I installed the updates for jaws on my win 10 laptop. I want to assign the 
control alt j key for the shortcut.
On the desktop I highlight jaws 2018
then enter j for the short cut key when I enter on ok i receive the message 
that access denied I need administrator permission


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Re: [JAWS-Users] re how to get focus 40 blue to stop panning

[JOHN RIEHL]

Thanks, but that did not work for me. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jacques
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] re how to get focus 40 blue to stop panning

Hi John,


I am using the latest version of windows 10, jaws 18 and the focus 40 blue
braille display version 5.71.


The braille display user's guide that I have offers the following
instructions:



auto advance tobble on and off

press the the left and right selector keys together

that should turn off auto advance and stop the panning motion.


I am not sure, but i believe that you would have to press those keys one
more time to turn the auto advance feature back on.

Let me know how it goes; I am still a novice when it comes to using the
braille display, but, at least, I have a user's guide that i can refer to.


Write me offline, if you wish, and maybe, we can help each other.


take care,


Jacques
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[JAWS-Users] How to get focus-40 Blue to stop panning

[JOHN RIEHL]

I've recently purchased a new focus-40 Braille display. I can get it to
start panning - automatically moving from one set of 40 characters to the
next - but I don't know how to get it to stop panning.

Pressing the two rockers I used to start panning does not make it stop.

Can anybody help?

The easily accessible documentation does not have this info in it; I haven't
loaded the user's manual on to my computer yet.

Thanks. John 

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[JAWS-Users] correction-RE: How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

[John R Vaughn]

List, one correction.  When you shift tab to the list of mail folders with
the shift tab, what is reported is the number of unread messages.  All other
info below is as reported.John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

All,
I am running latest jaws, windows 10 and outlook 2010.

While in the messages list of my "in box", if I do a "shift tab" which takes
you to the list of your various mailboxes and then quickly tab back to the
message list, jaws will report the number of the message you are on and the
total number of messages. But this is not spoken until the entire displayed
headers are read.
Also, when you do the shift tab to the navigation list, jaws will report the
number of messages in the folder.
John



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

In older versions of Jaws and e-mail clients,
a simple say line command would get that info.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in 
my list


Al, I'm confident there isn't such a keystroke, which would be very useful. 
With Outlook, including 2010, you're not even told what number email you're 
at as you go down the list, a feature Outlook Express had, or has. That's my

only regret about giving up OE.

However, your mention of a word search makes me wonder which type of search 
you're doing. If you just type a word into the initial search field, you're 
searching only subject lines. The way I search for all words, whether in the

subject line or the message field, is the following:

Control-shift-f to commence the search.
Tab once
Down arrow once
Shift-tab once.
Now type your search term, then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Al Sorrentino
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my 
list

Hi everyone,



I am using Outlook 2010

Windows 7 and JAWS 13



In my Outlook inbox I have about 650 e-mails that have already been read.
Sometimes I need to go back to a certain e-mail for references and it takes 
too long to find it in my list.  Is there a certain keystroke that I can use

to find out what number that e-mail is in my list?  The reason why I am 
asking is because sometimes I would like to go to that particular e-mail and

I do not want to go down that entire list to find out the one that I am 
looking for.  Sometimes when I do a search for a particular word in the 
e-mail that I am looking for, it does not appear, but I do know that it is 
on my list.



Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Al Sorrentino



alsorrent...@verizon.net





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Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

[John R Vaughn]

All,
I am running latest jaws, windows 10 and outlook 2010.

While in the messages list of my "in box", if I do a "shift tab" which takes
you to the list of your various mailboxes and then quickly tab back to the
message list, jaws will report the number of the message you are on and the
total number of messages. But this is not spoken until the entire displayed
headers are read.
Also, when you do the shift tab to the navigation list, jaws will report the
number of messages in the folder.
John



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

In older versions of Jaws and e-mail clients,
a simple say line command would get that info.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in 
my list


Al, I'm confident there isn't such a keystroke, which would be very useful. 
With Outlook, including 2010, you're not even told what number email you're 
at as you go down the list, a feature Outlook Express had, or has. That's my

only regret about giving up OE.

However, your mention of a word search makes me wonder which type of search 
you're doing. If you just type a word into the initial search field, you're 
searching only subject lines. The way I search for all words, whether in the

subject line or the message field, is the following:

Control-shift-f to commence the search.
Tab once
Down arrow once
Shift-tab once.
Now type your search term, then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Al Sorrentino
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my 
list

Hi everyone,



I am using Outlook 2010

Windows 7 and JAWS 13



In my Outlook inbox I have about 650 e-mails that have already been read.
Sometimes I need to go back to a certain e-mail for references and it takes 
too long to find it in my list.  Is there a certain keystroke that I can use

to find out what number that e-mail is in my list?  The reason why I am 
asking is because sometimes I would like to go to that particular e-mail and

I do not want to go down that entire list to find out the one that I am 
looking for.  Sometimes when I do a search for a particular word in the 
e-mail that I am looking for, it does not appear, but I do know that it is 
on my list.



Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Al Sorrentino



alsorrent...@verizon.net





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[JAWS-Users] New windows 10 version #-RE: jaws and Microsoft edge

[John R. Vaughn]

Kevin, what should be the version number on the spring creators version that I 
hear when I use the winver command?
Thank you.
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and Microsoft edge

It seems that with the recent build of jaws and the windows 10 spring creators 
update
Microsoft edge has gotten usable with jaws.  Jaws still says too much in edge 
Like entering navigation, and exiting navigation
But I can put up with that as long as edge doesn’t unexpectably  stop working 
like with internet explorer!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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[JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[John R. Vaughn]

List, have a Toshiba 5500 series laptop moving toward end of its life.

Anyone purchased a current Toshiba or Dell laptop that works well with Jaws
and is not a touch screen computer?

How about any other newer purchased laptops?

Thank you for any thoughts.

John

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Re: [JAWS-Users] envelopes and labels

[JOHN RIEHL]

That is correct. When you are in a document, press alt-M then e. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] envelopes and labels

hello;
don't have my office available,
however, I believe the keystroke is,
alt+m/e


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what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 1:40 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] envelopes and labels

Could someone please explain? I think that when I had Jaws 18 with office
365, all I had to do was press alt 1 to get to envelopes and labels. Given
that someone set it up for me and that my memory is now terrible, I'm not
sure. But that's what I think I remember. Alt 1 and then I think I had to
press e twice.  How do I address an envelope with Jaws 2018 and Office 365,
please?

Miriam


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[JAWS-Users] how to comfortably put Focus 40 in front of keyboard

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi, folks. I checked with VFO and found out they used to sell a keyboard
stand for the focus 80 and 40 but they are no longer sold or in stock. Does
anyone have any recommendations for how to put the Focus in front of my
keyboard so I can use the keyboard and read the display comfortably?

Thanks!

  John 

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[JAWS-Users] repost of message re stand for Focus-40 and keyboard

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi. I never got a response to my message re where I can get a stand that
will fit my keyboard and let the Focus fit neatly under it.

So I'm reposting.

Hi, folks. I just got my brand new Focus-40 blue Braille display.

Unfortunately, I'm trying to figure out how to place it relative to my
keyboard. Years ago, work got me (and some other blind folks) really nice
metal trays - the keyboard would sit on the tray and the Braille display  (a
focuss-80, as it happens) fits snugly right in front, a bit under the
keyboard. That way I can type conveniently and easily read the Braille
display. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and, if so, where can I
get one of these keyboard stands?

 

Unfortunately the person who got these is gone and the current Disability
accommodations folks don't know what I'm talking about.

 

Thanks!

 

John 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[JOHN RIEHL]

way when changing it to read email in plain text to
have it put you at the top of the message automatically?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Dennis,

Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages


I have this issue as well.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a
month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As
Dave urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a
lot of us who have your issue.

Cher



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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again.

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of
JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook
2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no
apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info:
"Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and,
sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function
normally again. 

I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail
message.

This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I
read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen.

Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who
monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend
time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know
I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue.

Thanks.

John, a frustrated JAWS user.

PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional
and Outlook 2013.

Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Stand for keyboard and Focus braille display

[JOHN RIEHL]

It is nice. Unfortunately, no one has written to give me any details on how to 
get one. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Stand for keyboard and Focus braille display

That metal stand sounds nice. My Focus 80 at work came with a stand. When i use 
a braille display that doesn’t have a stand, i use a thin print book to raise 
up the keyboard. One Christmas my sister gave me a  nice cutting board that a 
friend of hers made .   It never made it to the kitchen because it made a 
perfect stand for a keyboard in back of my Brailliant 64. 
Debby 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:13 PM, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi, folks. I just got my brand new Focus-40 blue Braille display.
> Unfortunately, I'm trying to figure out how to place it relative to my 
> keyboard. Years ago, work got me (and some other blind folks) really 
> nice metal trays - the keyboard would sit on the tray and the Braille 
> display  (a focuss-80, as it happens) fits snugly right in front, a 
> bit under the keyboard. That way I can type conveniently and easily 
> read the Braille display. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, 
> and, if so, where can I get one of these keyboard stands?
> 
> Unfortunately the person who got these is gone and the current 
> Disability accommodations folks don't know what I'm talking about.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Stand for keyboard and Focus braille display

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi, folks. I just got my brand new Focus-40 blue Braille display.
Unfortunately, I'm trying to figure out how to place it relative to my
keyboard. Years ago, work got me (and some other blind folks) really nice
metal trays - the keyboard would sit on the tray and the Braille display  (a
focuss-80, as it happens) fits snugly right in front, a bit under the
keyboard. That way I can type conveniently and easily read the Braille
display. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and, if so, where can I
get one of these keyboard stands?

Unfortunately the person who got these is gone and the current Disability
accommodations folks don't know what I'm talking about.

Thanks!

John 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

[JOHN RIEHL]

I don't know; if I keep arrowing down my Firefox reads all of my bookmarks. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

Please tell me how to get firefox to show the entire list of bookmarks. I
get into these tree views, and I wanton know if there's a way to get jaws to
read the entire list with up and down arrow keys like Internet Explorer
does.  Thanks.


--
From: "JOHN RIEHL" <realma...@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:20 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

> Alt-b brings up the bookmarks folder in Firefox.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks
>
> Jeff, I have another question about Firefox then. I know it works the 
> same as IE to save something, but how do you bring up your bookmark 
> folder? I tried using control B but nothing came up and I had saved a few
things.
> Thanks. Judy & Libby
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks
>
> If you're viewing the page you want to bookmark, just press control-d. 
> A dialog will open where you can edit the name and location of the 
> bookmark, but if you just wait a few seconds, the dialog will close 
> and save the bookmark in the main bookmarks folder. If you edit the 
> name or location, tab to the Done button and whack enter.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 4/1/2018 11:45 AM, Leonard Morris wrote:
>> How do you add a bookmark in Firefox?
>>
>> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It's a 
>> unique
> landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

[JOHN RIEHL]

Alt-b brings up the bookmarks folder in Firefox. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

Jeff, I have another question about Firefox then. I know it works the same
as IE to save something, but how do you bring up your bookmark folder? I
tried using control B but nothing came up and I had saved a few things.
Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks

If you're viewing the page you want to bookmark, just press control-d. A
dialog will open where you can edit the name and location of the bookmark,
but if you just wait a few seconds, the dialog will close and save the
bookmark in the main bookmarks folder. If you edit the name or location, tab
to the Done button and whack enter.

Jeff


On 4/1/2018 11:45 AM, Leonard Morris wrote:
> How do you add a bookmark in Firefox?
> 
> Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It's a 
> unique
landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] volume short cut

[John R. Vaughn]

Holger Fiallo,
Here is a post from someone on this list that I saved.

1, go to desktop,
Windows key+m,

2, press the keystroke,
Ctrl+spacebar,
To unselect all icons.

3, press the applications key, and down arrow and enter on, New sub menu.

4, now arrow and enter on,
New shortcut.

5,Now type the following in the edit box, sndvol 6, tab next, press enter.
You will see/hear;
sndvol.exe
Tab finish press enter.

Now, if you would like a hot-key,

1, desktop,
Press the letter "s" until you hear,
sndvol.exe.

2, now press alt+enter to bring up the properties,

3, tab until you hear;
Shortcut key none,
Here you could type "v"=volume or what ever letter you wish, Now press
enter.
So, alt+ctrl+v would bring up the sndvol properties page.


John
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] volume short cut

How do I create a volume shortcut? Using jaws 2018 and W10.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

[JOHN RIEHL]

As Jaws users we shouldn't "have to  put up with it". I also experience this
freezing, both when switching between programs and when doing things in
Outlook. If the fact that Jaws uses a lot of Ram, particularly when
switching programs, I would hope that Jaws programmers and developers are
addressing this, particularly since there is only one other competitor to
Jaws on the market. 
We should not have to put up with issues that affect our productivity,
particularly if the issues are caused by the assistive  technology we're
using to be productive!
  John   to 
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Behalf Of john_just...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.

In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group.  Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.

 1. THE ISSUE AT HAND:  apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM.  Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another.  The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM  to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT:  It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority.  I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3.  According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM  into smaller compartments which then handle this function.  The entire
process scares the heck out of me.  It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.  
4.  A WORKING SOLUTION:  I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions.  For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets.  But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded.  The down time has been measured  and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5.  CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS:  Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart.  Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents.  We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.  

The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike.  But it's something
we just put up with since jaws performs so well in most other respects.
 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Good morning all!  I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work
on an issue where JAWS freezes unexpectedly when switching from one window
to another using the Alt Tab key.  The issue is difficult to resolve because
it doesn't happen every time he switches windows.  It does happen two to
three times a day on average, and is hindering his efforts to perform his
job.  I have offered several solutions, but nothing has worked yet.  When
JAWS freezes, he has to wait some 30 seconds before speech comes back.  

I wanted to reach out to the list to see if any of you had any ideas as to
how I could minimize this behavior.  I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks very much!

 

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

[JOHN RIEHL]

That's certainly the case for me at work, where this problem also occurs.
Both my home and work computers are using Windows-7, 64-bit machines. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

I've noticed this issue of JFW becoming more sluggish after a period of
time, too. Specifically, sometimes I will leave my PC on over-night. When I
come back to it in the morning, even using something like file explorer
seems like a chore for the computer/JAWS. I restart, and it's as good as
new, so to speak. I feel that I shouldn't have to do this. I may not be one
of them but there are people and organisations who have to keep their
systems running for long stretches of time as a matter of course.



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Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: March 10, 2018 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Steve,

Might be, but as you say, 4 G of RAM is pretty massive. I agree that coding
is more likely the issue, since the real slowdown problems happened after
JAWS 16, when they changed "under the hood" operation. I still think JAWS is
subject to memory crowding either because of itself, or because it is using
memory areas that it did not use in the past. Most of my complaint have been
due to JAWS getting less responsive the longer it runs. After a clean
restart, it seems to get more responsive again, until it starts to slow
later.

I'll let folks know if I am more satisfied with jfw.exe set to high
priority.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 12:00
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs


Dave,

One of your issues might be 32-bit OS.  That limits you as to your memory
usage which I think tops out at only 4Gigs in a 32-bit system.

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs


> John,
>
> Interesting...One thing I can do (and have just done) is to increase the
> priority of the JFW process. I'm going to try running my system this way
> for
> a while to see if anything improves.
>
> My system is a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, dual core processor.
> I'm running the latest build of JAWS 2018.
>
> What I did was to launch the Windows Task Manager  (Ctrl+Shift+Escape) and
> Ctrl+Tab to the processes list. I arrowed down to jfw.exe and opened the
> context menu. From there I selected the "set priority" menu and
> right-arrow
> to open. JFW was set to run as normal, and I've changed it to high, waited
> a
> bit, and then selected the set priority button after the cautionary
> warning.
> Close Windows Task Manager with Escape.
>
> Now let's see if JAWS behaves better with this setting. If it does, I'd
> sure
> like to know how to have it permanently set to high priority, as I suspect
> it will default to normal after a restart.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <john_just...@verizon.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 07:16
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
>
>
> Hello Mike,
> John Justice, here.
> I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
> you describe.
>
> In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention
> of
> our upper level Access group.  Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
> but it might give you food for thought.
>
> 1. THE ISSUE AT HAND:  apparently, what we are experiencing is the
> assignment of RAM.  Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a
> considerable
> amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
> another.  The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM  to
> perform the function.
> 2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT:  It is possible to assign certain programs
> on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
> beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs
> can
> be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily.
> There
> are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and audible.com

[JOHN RIEHL]

I don't know if this will help, but I've noticed that now, after you select
library, you have to choose between my books" and "wish list" (or "my
orders; I can't forget). If you press enter on My Books that should bring up
the list of books in your library. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and audible.com

Is anyone having trouble using the audible.com site?  I just signed up to
use audible but am having a problem accessing library.  I'm told to use pass
key through but still can't get into the library.  

Can anyone help?

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google ChromeBrowser]

[John R. Vaughn]

Where can I go to get the chrome browser for download?
Thanks.
John

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google
ChromeBrowser]

You will love Chrome!
It is so fast, and the interface is so simple,


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google
ChromeBrowser]

Thank you, this will be most helpful for me.  I have Chrome but never use
it. 


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Behalf Of cheez
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome
Browser]

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both
work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and
type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say
Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut
icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to
open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google
Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get
undesirable results.

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo
box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down
arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming
here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with
Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to
see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to
your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE,
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their
corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks.
If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these
choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved
bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left

Re: [JAWS-Users] table announcement

[JOHN RIEHL]

I've had the same issue as well -- JAWS 18 and Outlook 2007.
It would be really helpful if we could hear from VFO developers to let us
know what's going on and, more importantly, FIX THE PROBLEM!!
  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] table announcement

I have the same issue using Outlook 2007.  I found that if I close Outlook
and reopen it I usually get rid of the tables but it is temporary and I have
to do it again when the tables come back.  You can also open the message as
html by doing the following: Alt-h+x and then v.  You can read the message
and then copy what you want or simply close it with Alt-f4.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] table announcement

I have the same issue using Outlook 2007.  I found that if I close Outlook
and reopen it I usually get rid of the tables but it is temporary and I have
to do it again when the tables come back.  You can also open the message as
html by doing the following: Alt-h+x and then v.  You can read the message
and then close the window with alt f4 or copy the content if you want to
keep it. Hi all.  How can I get jaws to stop saying table with 3 coluns and
7 rows as an example in jaws 2018 and outlook 2016?  It says something like
this when I'm reading an email. Thanks.  

Wayne 

Rebecca and guide dog Zeb

Email:   rilni...@gmail.com

Twitter: applegirl1994

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

[John R. Vaughn]

George, have you tried going into the "sticky keys" setting in the "ease of
access settings"?The control for this is under "make the keyboard easier to
use". In this setting which you can check, you can touch keys sequentualy
for a command.
John

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Behalf Of George Marshall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi:

 

I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?

 

Thanks,

 

George R. Marshall
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

[John Fitzgerald]

Mike,

I'm not sure beyond what I am running, which is win seven 64 bit, and jw 15.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:05 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Versions & Windows 7

Hi All,

What is the earliest version of Jaws that can be run on / with Windows 7 32 or
64 bit?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook messages change?

[JOHN RIEHL]

I appreciate that, Adrian, but it shouldn't be happening AT ALL.
Are you saying this happens to you as well?
I'd be curious how many others are experiencing this issue. 
 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook
messages change?

Here's how I handle this problem with Outlook 2010. I put the message in
Internet Explorer by pressing alt-h, wait a moment, then a, then v. JAWS
tends to read such messages fine in this window. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook messages
change?

I'm using the latest JAWS and Outlook-2010. Very frequently, for no apparent
reason, JAWS messages in Outlook become very difficult to read. Instead of a
nice and readable message, JAWS will say stuff like: nesting level x; table;
nesting level 3, etc etc; the actual text is very difficult to read. 

Exiting JAWS and restarting the program fixes the problem for a while.
What's going on and how can I fix it?

Thanks. John  

 

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[JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook messages change?

[JOHN RIEHL]

I'm using the latest JAWS and Outlook-2010. Very frequently, for no apparent
reason, JAWS messages in Outlook become very difficult to read. Instead of a
nice and readable message, JAWS will say stuff like: nesting level x; table;
nesting level 3, etc etc; the actual text is very difficult to read. 

Exiting JAWS and restarting the program fixes the problem for a while.
What's going on and how can I fix it?

Thanks. John  

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[John Fitzgerald]

I'm running win 7, 64 bit, jaws 15, and the freezing issue is so infrequent 
that it's nearly non-existent.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing


you're probably right.  I'm still running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and I have 
not experienced any freezing issues with JAWS.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

George,
If you have jaws 16 on your machine, run jaws 16  for a while and see if the 
problem goes away. I’m betting on it will.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George Marshall <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi:

I am using Windows 7, jaws 2018 and eight gig of RAM. I have the freezing 
problem it will freeze while reading email or in Microsoft word version 10 and 
I've seen it do it on the Internet. Have no idea what the solution is.

Thanks

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I must report that I am not experiencing this freezing problem at all here.
In fact 2018 is quite stable on the systems I have it installed and use every 
day as a matter of fact. Naturally all systems do not act the same for various 
reasons.

-Original Message-
From: John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think JAWS.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same 
thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was 
taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little bit 
of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in
3 or 4 minutes.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more often 
than a few weeks ago.

John


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Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is 
freezing?

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all 
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy 
Rooney

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Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello:



This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading an 
email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it would 
just stop working.

I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the hotkey 
but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[John Justice]

I don't want to overwhelm this serious issue with inherently worthless
responses.  However, technicians at VFO  have told me that the issue is
"under the hood"  so to speak.  Apparently, the newer versions of Jaws have
been redesigned in such a way that their headroom can be inundated by
software which requires more than normal functionality.  In other words, the
more complex the software, the higher degree of probability that Jaws might
freeze or even crash under certain conditions.  On the other hand, I have
noticed that with jaws 18, the program will often recover itself without any
prompting.  The freezing is annoying but if we can be reassured that Jaws
will recover, it might be something we'll just have to put up with until the
designers find a way to deal with it.  Personally, I think that Jaws had
made some amazing progress recently.  I have no reason to think that the
designers won't continue to make it a better program.  

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSO
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

JAWS 14 does the same thing.

I tought it might have something to do with my NOD32.


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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing


> ...any version since 17.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 13:26
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
>
>
> Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS 
> is
> freezing?
>
> George A. Martinez, CPA
> O-602.368.8854
> F-206.666.2589
> C-602.368.5424
> "I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but 
> all
> the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
> Andy Rooney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kimsan
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
>
> Hello:
>
>
>
> This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be 
> reading
> an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof 
> it
> would just stop working.
>
> I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
> hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
> blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/
>
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> https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[John Vernaleken`]

I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think
JAWS.

John


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Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same
thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was
taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little
bit of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in
3 or 4 minutes.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more
often than a few weeks ago.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is
freezing?

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello:

 

This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading
an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it
would just stop working.

I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[John Vernaleken`]

I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more
often than a few weeks ago.

John


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Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is
freezing?

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello:

 

This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading
an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it
would just stop working.

I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes updates

[John Fitzgerald]

Wayne

Let me know how it works out.  I too have win 7 with jaws 15. 

I haven't run into the same issues that you have, but would like to update if
it works with 15.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes updates

Hi Wayne,

Below is a dropbox download link for the latest MWB version.  I don't know
about Jaws 15, but Jaws 16 works okay with this latest version, but then again
Jaws 17 will work much better.  This newer version requires a lot of tabbing,
but install it & try to get a feel for it, then we'll see what you need help
with.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvfty1xmbdihxfb/mb3-setup-consumer-3.3.1.2183-1.0.26
2-1.0.3374.zip?dl=1


- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:35 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes updates


Hello folks, I have been using the Malwarebytes program for a long time.  I
did not update to the latest version because people on this list said it was
much less accessible than in the past.  Now when I try to open Malwarebytes
there is an audio tone and then silence and Jaws 15 goes dead.  I went to
Ninyt to update it but the same thing happened, it started to download and
then I got the tone and then nothing.  There was no message like "Do you
want to permit this..."  Are any of you using Malwarebytes with Windows 7
and JAWS 15 or 17?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

[John R. Vaughn]

Mike, in the run dialogue box,  type "msconfig".  In the startup tab, I
suspect you have a lot of "crap"(your words) and uncheck the items as you
down arrow through the list of startup items.  About all I leave checked in
the start up dialogue is Jaws.  Everything else you can start as needed.
Hope this helps.
John in sunny southwest florida 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Win10 Latest

Hi All,

Running J16 thru J2018 & Widows 10 latest.  Whenever I invoke the, Insert /
Jaws key + F10, keystroke to open the Jaws task list dialogue I have the
following listed / showing:

Cortana   On Top
Main Menu   On Top
Microsoft Store
Maximized Microsoft Store   Restored
MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System   On Top
OneNote   Maximized
OneNote   Restored
Settings   Maximized
Settings   Restored
Start   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   On Top
Windows Shell Experience Host   Restored

My question, how do I stop all the above crap from showing?!  This is really
irritating!
All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.  A very happy &
prosperous New Year to all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] iCloud?

[John R Vaughn]

Rose, I sent a message to :
accessibil...@apple.com

I explained that the last three updates to the ICloud updates made the
interface inaccessible.
Hopefully all of us will write Apple!!!
Below  is Apple's response
John
Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you
know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment on
when it may be resolved.

Apple Accessibility

On December 15, 2017 at 17:42:43 PM GMT, jrvaugh...@comcast.net wrote:

>To Whom it may concern:
>I am blind and I am a  Jaws screen reader user and the IPhone 5S and
updated to IPhone 8Plus.  Also use an IPad mini second generation.
>I use the ICloud on these devices and my two Toshiba Laptops running latest
version of Windows 10 Creators Fall edition.
>Unfortunately, the ICloud interface on my two computers have not been
readable by the screen reader for the last two releases of the ICloud
interface.
>I sure hope this problem can be fixed.  I am on the VIPhone list and there
are a number of users who rely on the ability to navigate the controls on
the ICloud interface.
>Thank you.
>John Vaughn
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iCloud?

How can iCloud be made accessible.  My cousin said I had an update from
Apple and she restarted the computer after it downloaded and left.  This
morning I was in the iCloud window but nothing yielded anything I could do,
have no clue if it wanted info from me, no cursor read anything useful.
Why?  Once it was usable in Windows!  How do we make it so again?  

 

 

Rose rosecomb...@cox.net <mailto:rosecomb...@cox.net> 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John R. Vaughn]

David, Sorry I am so dense.  I saw this at the bottom of messages and now I
know it will get me to the download area.
Thanks
John

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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-Original Message-
From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? 

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
> entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
> unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
> with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
> not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
> no reason to doubt them on that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
> continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
> your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
> matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
> JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
> the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
> I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time.
> Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
> well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
> for Google not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
>> the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
>> to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
>> it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answ

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John R. Vaughn]

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
> entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
> unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
> with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
> not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
> no reason to doubt them on that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
> continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
> your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
> matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
> JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
> the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
> I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time. 
> Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
> well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
> for Google not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
>> the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
>> to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
>> it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> --
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John Vernaleken`]

No problems JAWS 2018 and latest IE.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I am using jaws 2018 and current IE without any problem.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

[John Fitzgerald]

Removing all third party programs and sticking with microsofts anti virus.
And of course keeping your system updated.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

What does he advise?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Fitzgerald
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Leo LePort has said many times on his radio show/podcast (The Tech Guy) that
he doesn't recommend any third party anti-virus programs because they are
rooted so deep in the OS and they have their own vulnerabilities.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Okay, kind of thought so, but wasn't sure.
Thanks,
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Hi,
Ah, I think this is the first real-life example of secondary protection. In
other words, when a third-party antivirus program is installed and is
protecting your computer, Windows Defender will be turned off. Once the
subscription expires, Windows Defender will kick in until you renew your
third-party antivirus subscription. And yes, Windows Defender is free and is a
built-in antivirus program for Windows (starting from Windows 8.x).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

I don't know; I really don't. I was confused for the last few weeks also, so I
haven't do it.  It says windows defender is protecting you pc, then it has a
renew button.  When you  hit the button, is says macaffee, then it wants
you to put your card numb erin.  I haven't do it.   

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Uhm, Windows Defender is free, what do you mean it wants you to renew and
purchase MacAfee?

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] protection

So, windows defender is asking me to renew and wants me to pay for macafee.
Can anyone recommend an accessible anti virus spyware malware/protection?
Also, does windows 10 come with one naturally without having  to renew?
Free is better, but this one which is asking me to renew is $59.  So, is there
one cheaper?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

[John Fitzgerald]

Leo LePort has said many times on his radio show/podcast (The Tech Guy) that
he doesn't recommend any third party anti-virus programs because they are
rooted so deep in the OS and they have their own vulnerabilities.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Okay, kind of thought so, but wasn't sure.
Thanks,
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Hi,
Ah, I think this is the first real-life example of secondary protection. In
other words, when a third-party antivirus program is installed and is
protecting your computer, Windows Defender will be turned off. Once the
subscription expires, Windows Defender will kick in until you renew your
third-party antivirus subscription. And yes, Windows Defender is free and is a
built-in antivirus program for Windows (starting from Windows 8.x).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

I don't know; I really don't. I was confused for the last few weeks also, so I
haven't do it.  It says windows defender is protecting you pc, then it has a
renew button.  When you  hit the button, is says macaffee, then it wants
you to put your card numb erin.  I haven't do it.   

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] protection

Uhm, Windows Defender is free, what do you mean it wants you to renew and
purchase MacAfee?

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] protection

So, windows defender is asking me to renew and wants me to pay for macafee.
Can anyone recommend an accessible anti virus spyware malware/protection?
Also, does windows 10 come with one naturally without having  to renew?
Free is better, but this one which is asking me to renew is $59.  So, is there
one cheaper?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] adding an address from within a message using outlook 2016

[John R. Vaughn]

List, this approach worked for me using outlook 2010.
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of james_hoo...@earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adding an address from within a message using outlook 
2016

David   that is so cool thanks.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adding an address from within a message using outlook 
2016

hello;
if your wanting to add an email address to your contacts using outlook2016, try 
the following;

1, enter on the message which has the contact's email address,

2, now press the keystroke,
ctrl+shift+y=copy item to dialog,

3, press the letter "c" until you hear contacts and press enter,

note a screen will come up with all the pertinate information, person's name, 
email address, and, you can add to any of the edit fields, if you are satisfied 
with the information, you can simply press, alt+s=save, now your placed back 
into the message.
hope this helps.
I believe this will work for earlier versions of outlook.

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Of james_hoo...@earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding an address from within a message using outlook 2016

Any suggestions as to how to do it any jaws keystrokes outlook 2016 seems 
pretty complicated.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?

Hello Mary:

J-Say is a British program that has been around for years, a wrap-around Dragon 
Natural Speaking, designed for people with limited or no hand mobility.  I had 
to learn it years ago in order to teach a younger blind person with Multiple 
Sclerosis and was surprised how well it works.  You can indeed give commands to 
the computer or dictate to it, it accommodates different accents, even 
understood perfectly my Cuban-accented English.

Having said that, I still would not use it unless you have trouble typing; it 
requires patience and with the advent of Cortana and the rapid updates to all 
that new Windows technology, I would go that route instead.

As far as J-Dictate, I have no idea, never used it.

Regards,

Humberto


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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?

I’m guessing this question might be seen as a bit too general to be of interest 
to the list. So please feel free to reply privately if you want. I don’t want 
to clog the list with stuff folks don’t care about. I am curious about the J 
dictate and J say. I read the blurb on Brian‘s website. I certainly don’t need 
to control my entire computer via voice. But there are aspects of it that sound 
like they could be rather useful. I mean, if you can really use natural 
language to do all sorts of stuff, finding things changing settings etc., 
without having to memorize all the stuff that goes with that in terms of 
keyboarding and what keystroke does work, it could be kind of nice. Anyway, 
please do feel free to reply off list at the address I will put right here. I 
guess I’m looking for Star Trek. Smile.
Mary
maryot...@comcast.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

[John R. Vaughn]

Mike, you must be correct.  All I did was forward the last message I had on
this matter.  So thank you for correcting.  I think I will butt out from
trying to give help.
John, retired and happy in southwest Florida

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Hi John,

I know these are not your steps, but after you press, Alt + V, from the
Layout tab to get to the Vertical Alignment combobox, Vertical is not an
option from the list.  The Vertical Alignment combobox options are:
Top, Center, Justified, & Bottom.

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg


Here is the post to the list
John
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> on behalf of
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthouri...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

Hello Tom,
Below are the directions from FS Training.
Cheers Kevin.
To center the text of the letter vertically on the page after you have typed

it, do the following:
.Press CTRL+HOME to move to the top of the document.
.Press ALT+P to move to the Page Layout tab of the ribbon.
.Press SP to access the Page Setup button. The Page Setup multi page
dialog box opens.
.Press CTRL+TAB until you move to the Layout tab of the dialog box.
.Press ALT+V to move to the Vertical Alignment combo box, and then
choose Vertical in the list.
.Finally, press ENTER twice to close combo box and the dialog box. Focus

returns to the document area, and the text is centered vertically on the
page.
NOTE: It is not necessary to center the text on the page if the letter is
more than one page in length.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

that's horizontal center

On 1/8/15, j Bron <jb...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Control E centers.
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:39 PM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word
>
>  i know this has been ansered before, but what are the key strokes to 
> verticly center a 2010 ms word paragraph
>
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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Apologies-I remember seeing the instructions for the vertical centering of
text in aMS Word doc but I can't find them. Can some kind soul please post
them? Just to be clear, I am asking for vertical centering and not
horizontal centering. Thanks



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Re: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

[John R. Vaughn]

Press alt and space bar and down arrow through choices.  You can also do alt
spacebar and press letter X for maximize
John

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Hi. How do I minimize or maximize a window on IE using JFW 18.0? 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

[John R. Vaughn]

Here is the post to the list
John
From:   JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> on behalf
of 
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthouri...@gmail.com>
Sent:   Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

Hello Tom,
Below are the directions from FS Training.
Cheers Kevin.
To center the text of the letter vertically on the page after you have typed

it, do the following:
.Press CTRL+HOME to move to the top of the document.
.Press ALT+P to move to the Page Layout tab of the ribbon.
.Press SP to access the Page Setup button. The Page Setup multi page 
dialog box opens.
.Press CTRL+TAB until you move to the Layout tab of the dialog box.
.Press ALT+V to move to the Vertical Alignment combo box, and then 
choose Vertical in the list.
.Finally, press ENTER twice to close combo box and the dialog box. Focus

returns to the document area, and the text is centered vertically on the 
page.
NOTE: It is not necessary to center the text on the page if the letter is 
more than one page in length.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

that's horizontal center

On 1/8/15, j Bron <jb...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Control E centers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:39 PM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word
>
>  i know this has been ansered before, but what are the key strokes to
> verticly center a 2010 ms word paragraph
>
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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Apologies-I remember seeing the instructions for the vertical centering of
text in aMS Word doc but I can't find them. Can some kind soul please post
them? Just to be clear, I am asking for vertical centering and not
horizontal centering. Thanks

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

[John R. Vaughn]

Ed, not sure, but I will closely monitor the issue and see if it happens
again and try and remember what happened during the prior shutdown.
John

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi John,
Do you think a Windows update change this or was it something else? Just
curious. 
Mr. Ed

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, yes, on both of my Toshiba 5500 laptops.
John

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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi All,

I have two desktop computers running the latest Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. I
believe this happened since laste week some time. Both of my Jaws had the
automatically start Jaws at the log on screen uncheck. I had to go back into
both computers and re check this in the Jaws setup. Has anyone else had this
issue lately?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

[John R Vaughn]

Ed, yes, on both of my Toshiba 5500 laptops.
John

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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi All,

I have two desktop computers running the latest Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. I
believe this happened since laste week some time. Both of my Jaws had the
automatically start Jaws at the log on screen uncheck. I had to go back into
both computers and re check this in the Jaws setup. Has anyone else had this
issue lately?

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[JAWS-Users] 2018 JAWS CD

[John Vernaleken`]

Hello All,

Has anyone received the 2018 CD? I have Downloaded 2018 and would like a CD
as Backup.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

[John Fitzgerald]

Mike,

Sorry,  I meant Word not Outlook.  I typed Outlook because I'm currently
having issues with my second Gmail account only retrieving messages once a
day.

I would be very interested in what you find.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi John,

I don't run Outlook of any nature, except for that altered version of Outlook
Express that has been altered to work with Windows 7, 8, 8.1, & 10! 
I'm going to give Microsoft Accessibility a call in the morning.  This is just
too weird!
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working


Hi Mike,

Have you updated Outlook lately?

Closing without saving is odd indeed.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi John,

Thank you for your reply, but I've checked both places, + other places, &
nothing is there regarding saved .DOCX files.  It sounds like they're just
closing without being saved anywhere!  I just don't understand why I'm not
getting a save dialogue when invoking the save keystrokes!
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working


Hi Mike,

Not sure what's happening, but mine is showing that files are saved in two
places ; My Documents, and Public Documents

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 8:26 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Office 2010 Home & Student, & Jaws 16.  When I create a
word .docx, & press either, Control + S, Alt + F, then A, or F12 to save the
document I do not get a save dialogue to name the file as whatever I want to
name it.  The document just flat out disappears, & I can't find it anywhere!
I know where it's suppose to save to if it gets closed without being saved,
but like I said, I can't find where it's supposed to go or anywhere else!
I'm all out of ideas, would y'all please come to my rescue, & tell me what 
the
hell is happening?!  LOL  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
much.
w
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

[John Fitzgerald]

Hi Mike,

Have you updated Outlook lately?

Closing without saving is odd indeed.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi John,

Thank you for your reply, but I've checked both places, + other places, &
nothing is there regarding saved .DOCX files.  It sounds like they're just
closing without being saved anywhere!  I just don't understand why I'm not
getting a save dialogue when invoking the save keystrokes!
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working


Hi Mike,

Not sure what's happening, but mine is showing that files are saved in two
places ; My Documents, and Public Documents

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 8:26 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Office 2010 Home & Student, & Jaws 16.  When I create a
word .docx, & press either, Control + S, Alt + F, then A, or F12 to save the
document I do not get a save dialogue to name the file as whatever I want to
name it.  The document just flat out disappears, & I can't find it anywhere!
I know where it's suppose to save to if it gets closed without being saved,
but like I said, I can't find where it's supposed to go or anywhere else!
I'm all out of ideas, would y'all please come to my rescue, & tell me what the
hell is happening?!  LOL  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
w
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

[John Fitzgerald]

Hi Mike,

Not sure what's happening, but mine is showing that files are saved in two
places ; My Documents, and Public Documents 

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 8:26 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2010 Save Document Keystroke Not Working

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, Office 2010 Home & Student, & Jaws 16.  When I create a
word .docx, & press either, Control + S, Alt + F, then A, or F12 to save the
document I do not get a save dialogue to name the file as whatever I want to
name it.  The document just flat out disappears, & I can't find it anywhere! 
I know where it's suppose to save to if it gets closed without being saved,
but like I said, I can't find where it's supposed to go or anywhere else! 
I'm all out of ideas, would y'all please come to my rescue, & tell me what the
hell is happening?!  LOL  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
w
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
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[JAWS-Users] OUTLOOK 2010

[John Vernaleken`]

Hello All,

Until today when I went to OUTLOOK I could use the arrow keys to read the
Headers )Subject, From, Date, Etc.,) and open or Delete the Email. As I
arrow through the Headers Jaws is not reading them, if I press the Space Bar
the Header is read.

Running Jaws 18 and Fall 1709.. I think I changed a setting by mistake.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

John

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

[John Skyner]

Hi Mike

Try fn key and cursor up or down.

Cheers

John

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 23 October 2017 21:23
To: Jaws-Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for, Page Up & Page Down, for a
laptop that doesn't have these keys?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New blind users group.

[John Fitzgerald]

Randy,

I had to go to the below address to subscribe.

blind-users+subscr...@groups.io

Then, I got a confirmation email that I had to respond to.

See you on down the inbox.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New blind users group.

Hi, I started a group that is for discussion anything blind related. 
Life issues, Computer issues, Tech in general. Basically if it has to do with 
blindness in any way it is allowed.


blind-us...@groups.io


I have seen other posts  like this but if it is not allowed I apoligize.


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[JAWS-Users] opening a pdf

[John Skyner]

Hi

When opening a pdf attachment I get the following message: alert empty
document: I know the document is not empty because I can print and scan it.
I am running outlook 2016, Jaws 18 on a windows 10 Asus laptop.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043 latest build- Re: Updated JAWS 18

[John R Vaughn]

Ed, yes and I am using two different toshiba notebook computers with same
success.
John

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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043
latest build- Re: Updated JAWS 18

Hi John,
Are you using Jaws 18.0.4321? This is the last Jaws update.
Mr. Ed

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043
latest build- Re: Updated JAWS 18

all is working for me with names being announced as I type in the "to" field
of a new or forwarded message in outlook 10 with latest build of jaws
v.18.043
John

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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:56 PM
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Subject: addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043 latest build- Re:
[JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hi,
So is this happening to anyone using Outlook 2010? Can someone who is using
Outlook 2010 let us know if this is happening?
Mr. Ed

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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Outlook 2016. It worked before. Now after updating, as explained below, it
doesn't. 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hi,
First of all which version of Outlook are you using? Second did this work to
announce names before you updated to the newest Jaws 18?
I am using Outlook 2010 and have not updated to the latest Jaws 18.  My
Outlook read the names in a new email. 
So are you saying you updated and now it does not announce the names in a
new email?
Just wanting to know this before I update to the latest Jaws update.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

I don’t' get that beep and am able to down-arrow. For me at least, Jaws
doesn’t announce the names of contacts, but they are being cycled through. I
email a lot of the same people for my business and have learned the pattern
of how they come up when typing out their names. The letter M and then arrow
down for Maria X, Y or Z for example. This still occurs. Again though, Jaws
just isn't announcing the changes. 
Either way though, it is annoying and frustrating as I often now have to use
the to or CC or BCC buttons to go into my address book when I want to insert
multiple emails or if there is a long list of names with the same starting
sequence of letters. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Cam

Re: [JAWS-Users] addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043 latest build- Re: Updated JAWS 18

[John R Vaughn]

all is working for me with names being announced as I type in the "to" field
of a new or forwarded message in outlook 10 with latest build of jaws
v.18.043
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: addressing message in outlook 10 with J18.043 latest build- Re:
[JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hi,
So is this happening to anyone using Outlook 2010? Can someone who is using
Outlook 2010 let us know if this is happening?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Outlook 2016. It worked before. Now after updating, as explained below, it
doesn't. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hi,
First of all which version of Outlook are you using? Second did this work to
announce names before you updated to the newest Jaws 18?
I am using Outlook 2010 and have not updated to the latest Jaws 18.  My
Outlook read the names in a new email. 
So are you saying you updated and now it does not announce the names in a
new email?
Just wanting to know this before I update to the latest Jaws update.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

I don’t' get that beep and am able to down-arrow. For me at least, Jaws
doesn’t announce the names of contacts, but they are being cycled through. I
email a lot of the same people for my business and have learned the pattern
of how they come up when typing out their names. The letter M and then arrow
down for Maria X, Y or Z for example. This still occurs. Again though, Jaws
just isn't announcing the changes. 
Either way though, it is annoying and frustrating as I often now have to use
the to or CC or BCC buttons to go into my address book when I want to insert
multiple emails or if there is a long list of names with the same starting
sequence of letters. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
 -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

[John Fitzgerald]

Ok, I'll give that a try.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

you have to press tab to get out of the search box.

-Original Message-
From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

I have no clue,  I just tried it again on mine and it won't move out of the
search box.  I can see the drop down below and can't find a key stroke to get
me to the drop down, which has book mark tools, then book mark menu.

Time for me to go, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if someone can
resolve this issue.

TTFN

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

ok I got it, but when I do it I get none of my bookmarks, I get preview, if I
arrow down I get bookmark toolbar whatever I do I can't get my bookmmarks

-Original Message-
From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

I was confused when I did control I and heard chrome search, but when I
arrowed down to bookmark tree, it was smooth sailing from there.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

ctrl+I still doesn't work
ctrl+b gives me chrome search
I want to delete bookmarks from Firefox!

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

control i once to turn it on, delete your bookmarks then control i to turn it
off again.
i have always used this shortcut because i don't have to reach across the
keyboard.
control b should give the same results.



-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

nope doesn't work!
ctrl + I doesn't do anything
I open the bookmarks with alt+b then I arrow up then press application key but
it doesn't do anything also I arrow up to the bookmark I want to delete press
the delete key it doesn't do anything either.

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

first turn off the virtual pc cursor or else firefox will hang when you open
the bookmark list.
then press control i to open and close the list.
once its open on the screen you can go through the list and delete them and
the list will stay opened until you press control i again.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

how do I delete bookmarks in Firefox
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

[John Fitzgerald]

I have no clue,  I just tried it again on mine and it won't move out of the
search box.  I can see the drop down below and can't find a key stroke to get
me to the drop down, which has book mark tools, then book mark menu.

Time for me to go, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if someone can
resolve this issue.

TTFN

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

ok I got it, but when I do it I get none of my bookmarks, I get preview, if I
arrow down I get bookmark toolbar whatever I do I can't get my bookmmarks

-Original Message-
From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

I was confused when I did control I and heard chrome search, but when I
arrowed down to bookmark tree, it was smooth sailing from there.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

ctrl+I still doesn't work
ctrl+b gives me chrome search
I want to delete bookmarks from Firefox!

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

control i once to turn it on, delete your bookmarks then control i to turn it
off again.
i have always used this shortcut because i don't have to reach across the
keyboard.
control b should give the same results.



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

nope doesn't work!
ctrl + I doesn't do anything
I open the bookmarks with alt+b then I arrow up then press application key
but it doesn't do anything also
I arrow up to the bookmark I want to delete press the delete key it doesn't
do anything either.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

first turn off the virtual pc cursor or else firefox will hang when you open
the bookmark list.
then press control i to open and close the list.
once its open on the screen you can go through the list and delete them and
the
list will stay opened until you press control i again.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

how do I delete bookmarks in Firefox
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

[John Fitzgerald]

I'll have to remember that.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

all you have to do is press control i again to close the bookmark list.;

-Original Message-
From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

I just tried the control I , arrowed down to bookmark tree, right arrowed to
open the tree, down arrowed to the bookmark that I wanted to delete, hit the
applications key to open the drop down menu, then hit the letter D to delete.
Then I left arrowed to close the tree, and hit escape to exit.

Worked great.

Thanks

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

nope doesn't work!
ctrl + I doesn't do anything
I open the bookmarks with alt+b then I arrow up then press application key but
it doesn't do anything also I arrow up to the bookmark I want to delete press
the delete key it doesn't do anything either.

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

first turn off the virtual pc cursor or else firefox will hang when you open
the bookmark list.
then press control i to open and close the list.
once its open on the screen you can go through the list and delete them and
the list will stay opened until you press control i again.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

how do I delete bookmarks in Firefox
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

[John Fitzgerald]

I was confused when I did control I and heard chrome search, but when I
arrowed down to bookmark tree, it was smooth sailing from there.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

ctrl+I still doesn't work
ctrl+b gives me chrome search
I want to delete bookmarks from Firefox!

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

control i once to turn it on, delete your bookmarks then control i to turn it
off again.
i have always used this shortcut because i don't have to reach across the
keyboard.
control b should give the same results.



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

nope doesn't work!
ctrl + I doesn't do anything
I open the bookmarks with alt+b then I arrow up then press application key
but it doesn't do anything also
I arrow up to the bookmark I want to delete press the delete key it doesn't
do anything either.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

first turn off the virtual pc cursor or else firefox will hang when you open
the bookmark list.
then press control i to open and close the list.
once its open on the screen you can go through the list and delete them and
the
list will stay opened until you press control i again.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

how do I delete bookmarks in Firefox
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

[John Fitzgerald]

I just tried the control I , arrowed down to bookmark tree, right arrowed to
open the tree, down arrowed to the bookmark that I wanted to delete, hit the
applications key to open the drop down menu, then hit the letter D to delete.
Then I left arrowed to close the tree, and hit escape to exit.

Worked great.

Thanks

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

nope doesn't work!
ctrl + I doesn't do anything
I open the bookmarks with alt+b then I arrow up then press application key but
it doesn't do anything also I arrow up to the bookmark I want to delete press
the delete key it doesn't do anything either.

-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

first turn off the virtual pc cursor or else firefox will hang when you open
the bookmark list.
then press control i to open and close the list.
once its open on the screen you can go through the list and delete them and
the list will stay opened until you press control i again.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] bookmarks

how do I delete bookmarks in Firefox
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] updates

[John R. Vaughn]

Jaws 2018 is a beta, not a regular version of jaws.
John

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Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] updates

Hi, all
JAWS 2018 does not let me know if there are no updates. In NVDA when I went
to do update for windows it told me that there were no updates or if there
were it told me. How come jaws does not do the same? If so, how to I check?
Using W0 and beta jaws. PS is the same with jaws 18. Help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Tutorial

[John Vernaleken`]

In the past I pressed the letter J and I got more Newsfeed items, Now JAWS
says Jump.

John



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Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Tutorial

What exactly is the issue? Facebook has always been flaky with a
screenreader.

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[JAWS-Users] Facebook Tutorial

[John Vernaleken`]

Hello All,

I may be going Crazy,  I do not think Facebook using JAWS 18 is acting the
same as it was a few weeks ago. Two questions:

Is Facebook working the same as it was a few weeks ago (Problems with
getting Newsfeed items)?

Is there a Tutorial for using Facebook with JAWS?

 

Thanks

John

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[JAWS-Users] updates to jaws 2018 beta

[John R. Vaughn]

I have been having no problems using the jaws 2018 beta on a windows 10
notebook.  However, I am surprised that we have not yet had an update? Seems
like there were some folks having problems.

John  

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[JAWS-Users] Facebook

[John Vernaleken`]

Hello  All,

 

Has anyone noticed changes when using Facebook? In the past I was able to go
to Newsfeed and press J to keep getting new items, not working (Now says
Jump).

Using JAWS 18 and Windows 10.

 

John

  

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[JAWS-Users] getting JAWS to read number of items in mailbox

[JOHN RIEHL]

Can anyone tell me how to get JAWS 18 to  read the number of e-mails I have
in my Outlook inbox?

Thanks. 

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[JAWS-Users] downloading and installing languages

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi. I tried to get Russian and Hebrew voices for JAWS-18 last evening by
going to "get new voices" in the Help Menu. When I pressed enter on the
Hegrew file nothing happened; when I pressed download on a  couple of the
Russian voices one voice downloaded but when I tried to click on the
installer package I got an error message saying this asn't a valid installer
package. 

What am I doing wrong and how can I get these language voices?

Thanks! John 

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[JAWS-Users] Getting JAWS to say number of e-mails in my inbox

[JOHN RIEHL]

How do I get JAWS to say the number of e-mails in my inbox and other
mailboxes?

Also, how do I get JaWS to beep at the top of a list (such as my e-mail
list)?

Thanks. John 

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[JAWS-Users] questin about Amazon

[JOHN RIEHL]

I'm having a weird experience wit Amazon. Every time I go into my shopping
cart using the non-accessibility (the regular) site, I can't see anything on
the screen. If I'm using Windoweyes, all I see is a link for the shopping
cart; I don't see any info re my shopping cart. If I'm using JAWS, the
screen appears blank. I'm using Firefox; IE doesn't seem to load for me. Is
anyone else having this problem"

 

Thanks. John 

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[JAWS-Users] another way to turn on virtual ribbon using quick settings-RE: Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

[John R. Vaughn]

Laura, another way to turn off or on, virtual ribbons is to use "quick
settings".
To do this:
1. hold the insert key(jaws key) down and press the letter V as in victor.
2. type in virtual or ribbons and press enter.
3. down arrow to the quick setting control for virtual ribbons and jaws will
announced checked or not.  Use the space bar to check or uncheck.
4. press enter or escape to clear control 
Note while on the item, virtual ribbon, if you tab once, use the arrow keys
to read help on this subject and how it works and if the item is checked or
unchecked by default.
Note 2 You can use this quick setting to find other settings you might want
to change.
John

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Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?

Laura


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Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent
on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't
use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to
buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..


Hello,



When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.



Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off?  I want and need to
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Laura









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trying to get firefox to download a form and feeling bemused

[John Fitzgerald]

Have you tried looking under tools/downloads to see if it is a true download?

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trying to get firefox to download a form and feeling
bemused

Hello folks.

 

I'm usually pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped for the moment and
maybe someone here could offer a suggestion. I'm trying to download a direct
deposit form from my bank. This is a pdf file. I mostly just need some of the
info from the form and may not actually be filling it out online. At any rate,
I am using Firefox, JAWS 18 and Windows 10. When I click on the link to the
form, it is supposed to open a pDF in the Adobe viewer, perhaps in its own
window. JAWS reads a message that Firefox has blocked the website from opening
a popup window, and I hear it say "alt-o for options", and also "click to
close this message". Obviously, I want the file to open. I've come across
dialogues like this before, such as the standard file download one, and don't
generally have a problem with them. However, here, pressing alt-o doesn't seem
to do a damn thing. I can't re-click the link at all; if I try doing it again,
I don't think that initial alert even pops up . not until I re-log-in to the
bank site. I've tried saving the link to my drive, but it's just an html file
that probably generates a part of the pdf content, and I can't access it this
way. Any ideas? Why am I not able to interact properly
with this dialogue box?   

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pronunciation dictionary

[John R. Vaughn]

Try putting in the way to say Duluth the following:
Dul uth
Note I broke the word into two syllables as dul and uth
Play with the way the word is spoken.  Probably other options such as
Da luth
John
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Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pronunciation dictionary

When trying to define the proper pronunciation for a word in the JAWS 18
dictionary, how does one indicate the syllable that should receive the
accent?

I'm trying to get JAWS to pronounce Duluth properly. The accent should be on
the second syllable. JAWS wants to put it on the first syllable. 
Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

[John Fitzgerald]

IC.  I just used the wizard to setup my second Gmail account.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

I'm pretty sure it is what I want, just not confident about setting it up.
Setting up my new Verizon/AOL account was not a smooth process and I ended up
calling the Microsoft Disability support line. 

Annette


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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hi Annette,

If it's not what you want you can delete the account in outlook without losing
any email from that Gmail account.

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hi John,

You make it sound so easy, but my gut says differently.  Thanks for the info.
I will give this a try.

Annette



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Behalf Of John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hi,

I have two Gmail accounts in outlook  2010.  Both accounts are separate, after
I open outlook I shift tab once arrow down once hit enter to open my second
account , then I can use the backspace key to toggle between the two accounts.

Just use the wizard to setup the second account.

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hello All,

 

I need to manage a G-mail account that is not my primary personal account.
Does anyone have any tips on how to navigate and use the web version of
G-mail?  I need to either have a draft message that I can use to send out to
new contacts, or be able to forward the original message and edit out the FWD
from the subject line and the old header info in the body of the message.  I
will be sending out over 150 of these messages as I receive contact info.
If
I have multiple to send out at once, I plan to put all of the addresses in the
BCC line.  I do use Outlook 2010 for my personal e-mail, so is there a way to
access this other account with Outlook and not have the messages get mixed
together?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

[John Fitzgerald]

Hi Annette,

If it's not what you want you can delete the account in outlook without losing
any email from that Gmail account.

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hi John,

You make it sound so easy, but my gut says differently.  Thanks for the info.
I will give this a try.

Annette



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Behalf Of John Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hi,

I have two Gmail accounts in outlook  2010.  Both accounts are separate, after
I open outlook I shift tab once arrow down once hit enter to open my second
account , then I can use the backspace key to toggle between the two accounts.

Just use the wizard to setup the second account.

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hello All,

 

I need to manage a G-mail account that is not my primary personal account.
Does anyone have any tips on how to navigate and use the web version of
G-mail?  I need to either have a draft message that I can use to send out to
new contacts, or be able to forward the original message and edit out the FWD
from the subject line and the old header info in the body of the message.  I
will be sending out over 150 of these messages as I receive contact info.
If
I have multiple to send out at once, I plan to put all of the addresses in the
BCC line.  I do use Outlook 2010 for my personal e-mail, so is there a way to
access this other account with Outlook and not have the messages get mixed
together?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

[John Fitzgerald]

If you do setup the second account do not check the box to save the messages
on the server, just leave it blank and all of the messages should stay on the
server until you delete them by going to the webpage for that account.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


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Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hello All,

 

I need to manage a G-mail account that is not my primary personal account.
Does anyone have any tips on how to navigate and use the web version of
G-mail?  I need to either have a draft message that I can use to send out to
new contacts, or be able to forward the original message and edit out the FWD
from the subject line and the old header info in the body of the message.  I
will be sending out over 150 of these messages as I receive contact info.  If
I have multiple to send out at once, I plan to put all of the addresses in the
BCC line.  I do use Outlook 2010 for my personal e-mail, so is there a way to
access this other account with Outlook and not have the messages get mixed
together?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

[John Fitzgerald]

Hi,

I have two Gmail accounts in outlook  2010.  Both accounts are separate, after
I open outlook I shift tab once arrow down once hit enter to open my second
account , then I can use the backspace key to toggle between the two accounts.

Just use the wizard to setup the second account.

HTH

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account

Hello All,

 

I need to manage a G-mail account that is not my primary personal account.
Does anyone have any tips on how to navigate and use the web version of
G-mail?  I need to either have a draft message that I can use to send out to
new contacts, or be able to forward the original message and edit out the FWD
from the subject line and the old header info in the body of the message.  I
will be sending out over 150 of these messages as I receive contact info.  If
I have multiple to send out at once, I plan to put all of the addresses in the
BCC line.  I do use Outlook 2010 for my personal e-mail, so is there a way to
access this other account with Outlook and not have the messages get mixed
together?

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] touch cursor help

[John R. Vaughn]

Command to activate touch cursor is shift key plus  number pad plus.  To get
out of touch mode and return key to PC cursor mode, press number pad plus
twice
Number pad plus is also PC cursor on my laptop.
John

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 8:25 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] touch cursor help

Hello all. I'm a recent Window-eyes migrant and am having conceptual trouble
understanding and using the touch cursor. When I invoke it in the Media
Human application, I can use tab and shift-tab to navigate among screen
elements that are unspoken with both the Jaws and PC cursors. But once I
locate the desired element, I can't activate it. 
Must I route the Jaws cursor to the touch cursor position and press the left
mouse button in order to activate the element, or can the activation be
performed exclusively with the touch cursor?
More profoundly, is the touch cursor only useful to access elements that are
inaccessible with the other cursors, but not to activate elements? I realize
that the touch cursor was primarily intended for tablet use, but I'm
attempting to use it on my desktop and laptop. If there are any useful touch
cursor tutorials, I'm happy to digest them.
Thanks,


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and
Pedagogue
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[JAWS-Users] Two options and set up adobe guidelines-RE: PDF files won't read at all

[John R. Vaughn]

Joanne, I have discovered that some difficult Adobe documents can be opened
with Googgle Chrom, the internet browser.
How I access the adobe document is save the document to my documents.  Then
when I want to read it, I press the application key and down arrow to "open
with" and press enter.  I then have Adobe DC, google chrome and Edge listed
to use.  On the google chrome item, I press enter and patiently wait while
Google opens and prepares the document for reading. When Edge begins to work
with Jaws, that may be another option for us to read Adobe documents.
If you have the K1000 product, this program can open many adobe documents or
convert the document into a text document.  In this instance, I would save
the adobe document as noted above, and when I get to the document in my list
of documents I want to open, I press the applications key and down arrow to
a choice called ""recognize  with Kurzweil  automatically" and press enter.
The document is then converted into a rich text format which can be read by
Word. In this instance, the document is converted and saved in the same
folder the original adobe document was accessed.  In this case, MS word
opens the document  in rich text format.
I have also included below, some tips on setting up Adobe I have gathered
from various lists.
John
Tip 1
Setting up adobe to open in a separate window
You can set up Adobe to open PDF files in a separate window from IE, which
fellow lister Gerald explained more or less as follows:

In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu (alt-e) and arrow up to the
Accessibility submenu. 
Select Set-up Assistant. 
Control-tab several times. On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up
Assistant is a check box labeled "Display PDF documents in the web browser."
It should be unchecked so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe
Reader.
Tip 2
Below is information received from Freedom Scientific to help you get Adobe
Reader working.
A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant
When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:
1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.
2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.
3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.
4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it
is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.
5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is
OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.
6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of
headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change
the radio button from
"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"
to 
"Read the entire document at once."
If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links
and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the
current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire
document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large
documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in
the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.
7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set Up Assistant.
8. If the check box for Reopen documents to the last viewed page is checked,
you may want to uncheck this. It is a personal preference. TAB through until
you reach the check box for "Display PDF documents in the web browser," and
uncheck it.
9. Press ENTER to activate the Done button.
 
B. Additional changes in Adobe Reader XI preferences.
1. Press CTRL+K to open the Adobe Reader XI preferences.
2. In the Categories list on the left side of the dialog box, choose
Accessibility.
3. Press TAB to move to the item, Show Portfolios in Files mode (not checked
by default) - check this.
4. Press TAB to move back to the Categories list and choose Security
(Enhanced).
5. Press TAB to move to Enable Protected Mode at startup (checked by
default) - uncheck this.
6. Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it with the SPACEBAR.
 
NOTE: The option to view PDF documents in the browser is no longer found in
the Preferences. You must use the Set Up Assistant to find this.  See Tip 1
above.

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Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF files won't read at all

I don't know if Adobe Reader is not installed properly, and unfortunately I
can't find a good converter except Docuscan which is way costly.  Is another
Adobe version more accessible, or is there something I should check or
uncheck as far as accessibility is concerned?  Or should I set more graphics
or some ot

Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I lock the JAWS key?

[John O'Regan]

Hello Again,

Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Remapping the date function to
the Pause key is the best solution I've heard so far, imho.

But I'm afraid I've unintentionally misled you.  My question was meant
to be more generic.  Holding down the Ins key while pressing F12 twice
quickly was just an example.

How would my hypothetical one-handed typist who can only press one key
at a time press the Ins key and press T twice quickly in help mode
(Ins+1) to hear extended help for the Say Title keystroke, for
instance?

Icymi, in the latest release of NVDA it is now possible to lock the
NVDA key by pressing it twice, if Sticky Keys are enabled.

BFN!

John

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[JAWS-Users] How can I lock the JAWS key?

[John O'Regan]

Dear List,

Imagine you had one hand and you could only press one key at a time.
In NVDA, you could turn on Sticky Keys by pressing Shift 5 times and
then lock the NVDA key by pressing it twice.  This would enable you to
press F12 twice quickly to hear the date (and not the time).

Is it possible to do the same in JAWS?  And yes, I know all about
Settings Centre > Default > User > Insert Key Mode.  It doesn't work.
And don't tell me to use my thumb and forefinger.  I want to know if
it's possible to make JAWS speak the date by pressing only one key at
a time.

TIA!

John

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[JAWS-Users] command to change desktop in windows 10

[John R. Vaughn]

List, on one of my windows 10 laptops running latest Jaws V18, my desktop
says desktop 1.  Is there a jaws command to close this desktop and return to
regular desktop?  This is all new to me.

Thanks for top.

John

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar

[John Fitzgerald]

I found it easier to type in the email addresses for my invitees on the
computer.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 1:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar

Another thought that just occurred.  I use Google Calendar onmy phone, but
havenot used it on the computer yet.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar

Either my Thunderbird email calendar doesn't have alarms, or I don't know how
to set them.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 6/7/2017 2:34 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Just a beginning question.  I use Outlook for my e-mail client and like
its
> calendar well enough.  It has alarms.  Where I started having trouble was
> when using it at work as a shared calendar.  I had the best luck with week
> view, and only had tried it with Jaws 17,notJudy
>   18.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:37 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible appointment calendar
>
> I'm looking for an accessible appointment calendar that has an alarm
system
> as well.  I had a talking clock program and something called anytime
deluxe
> that worked beautifully with Windows 7 but won't work with Windows 10.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] How do I turn of "selected" message

[JOHN RIEHL]

I somehow turned on a feature of JAWS whereby everytime I alt-tab to a new
Window JAWS says "selected." plus whatever application I'm in. I find this
annoying. I went into Configure verbosity levels and Advanced settings and
unchecked "say select" and "selected item" but JAWS still says Select.
Anybody got a clue what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Woops, hit the Send button too fast.FW: Attempting to open an Adobe document.

[John R. Vaughn]

Judy, I did not see your attachment, but I think this list does not allow
attachments.
John 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Woops, hit the Send button too fast.FW: Attempting to
open an Adobe document.

Here is the attachment.

 

 

 

Judy

 

From: Judy Jones [mailto:sonshine...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Attempting to open an Adobe document.

 

Hello, Folks,

 

I am going to attach the document to see what you all experience.  I was
hoping to open the document, but I am presented with a toolbar with no text.
Even though the toolbar has a download button it, when opening the download,
am still presented with the same toolbar.

 

Thanks for any advice you can give me on this.

 

Judy

 

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[JAWS-Users] Having Jaws not say "blank" on a blank line

[JOHN RIEHL]

Currently my JAWS says "blank" whenever I cursor down to a blank line. This
drives me crazy. How do I fix this? I think I have JAWS  configured not to
say Blank, but it still says "blank" whenever I arrow to or past a blank
line. Help! Thanks. John 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

[JOHN RIEHL]

No; what was happening was that I'd see "message" but didn't realize the
secret. Jerry Ellis's post described the issue and gave me the solution; it
was perfect. If you shift-tab then arrow right, you're in the list of
attachments. Just press enter to open.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

I'm confused by some of these responses. John has clarified his original
post by saying he's not finding any attachments when he shift-tabs. Instead,
he seems to land on the subject line. So, assuming he's right that the
message contains attachments, they must be the embedded kind. Gerry posted
instructions on the overall attachments question that I'll be using myself.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 11:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

Did you right arrow when you shift tab?

But I'm not seeing a list of attachments; all I see is "message" when I
shift-tab back. . 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

When you shift-tab back once, you'll be in a list of attachments. To open
one, press enter. In my experience, if there are two, it's the second that
you want. If there are more than two, after opening the second, you'll need
to return to the attachments field to open the others, one by one.

If this doesn't work, please post again. It may be you have embedded
attachments, which is another process.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

Hi. I'm using the latest version of JAWS and am unable to open attachments
in Outlook 2010. How do I do it?

When I'm in the message body and shift-tab back, I hear "message", then if I
do it again I get to the subject, etc. What's the secret to opening
attachments when in Outlook 2010?

Thanks. (I've checked the manual and experimented but have no luck.) Thanks.
John 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] some Gmail function questions

[John M.]

I am guessing that you are using Gmail in the HTML view. Many of the Gmail 
instructions assume that you are using Standard view, which does not work as 
well for screen reader users. I have done what you are trying to do using 
standard view. It's sometimes not easy, but with determination, it can be 
done.

When you are done deleting the messages, just switch back to HTML view.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <cblackw...@cityofmadison.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] some Gmail function questions


I'm using a Windows 7 computer with the latest version of JAWS 16 and IE 
11.  I want to delete large groups of emails from my In Box and found 
instructions for doing so on Google.  However, I'm having difficulty 
finding the options that the article says I should find.


First, there seems to be an option to turn on keyboard short cuts in the 
Settings menu, but when I open the Settings menu, I don't find that 
option.  Where is it?  Can I not find it because I'm using IE instead of 
Chrome?


When trying to delete a batch of message, it says to type in the name of 
the messages in the upper Search field.  I can do that, It then says to 
check a select box.  I can find a select button but no check box.  Once 
that is checked, there's supposed to be a way to select all the messages. 
I can't find that option.


Once that is selected, there is supposed to be a delete button at the top 
of the page.  Again, I can't seem to find that.


It has only just occurred to me that this might go better in Chrome, but 
failing that, any suggestions on how I can better navigate Gmail with 
JAWS?


Thanks for your help.

Clifford
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

[JOHN RIEHL]

But I'm not seeing a list of attachments; all I see is "message" when I
shift-tab back. . 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

When you shift-tab back once, you'll be in a list of attachments. To open
one, press enter. In my experience, if there are two, it's the second that
you want. If there are more than two, after opening the second, you'll need
to return to the attachments field to open the others, one by one.

If this doesn't work, please post again. It may be you have embedded
attachments, which is another process.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

Hi. I'm using the latest version of JAWS and am unable to open attachments
in Outlook 2010. How do I do it?

When I'm in the message body and shift-tab back, I hear "message", then if I
do it again I get to the subject, etc. What's the secret to opening
attachments when in Outlook 2010?

Thanks. (I've checked the manual and experimented but have no luck.) Thanks.
John 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Best virus checker program with JaWS

[JOHN RIEHL]

As a long-time Windoweyes user I've used the previous version of Eset Nod-32
as my virus checker. Some programs didn't work well with WE. As a new JAWS
user, I'm asking what virus checkers work best with JaWS?

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[JAWS-Users] Opening attachments in Outlook-2010

[JOHN RIEHL]

Hi. I'm using the latest version of JAWS and am unable to open attachments
in Outlook 2010. How do I do it?

When I'm in the message body and shift-tab back, I hear "message", then if I
do it again I get to the subject, etc. What's the secret to opening
attachments when in Outlook 2010?

Thanks. (I've checked the manual and experimented but have no luck.) Thanks.
John 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Move to next unopened message after deleting-RE: opening up an email

[John R. Vaughn]

Here is the setting in outlook options you need to have changed to enable
you to delete a message and open the next one.
1. Alt plus letter F to open menus.
2. up arrow to options and press enter.
3. you are in a multipage dialogue box and down arrow to "mail options" and
either tab to the very end or simply shift tab to go back through the
controls until you get to  
Make the change to this item
4. After moving or deleting an open item: open the next item
5. tab over to apply or okay.
Now when you delete a message with control key plus letter D as in David,
the next message will open and be read if you have this jaws item checked as
per earlier messages on this subject.
John in night time Florida
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 9:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Yes, you have to go into setting for OE 2010 and check a check box to do
this key combination.  If I see where that setting is, I will write back.
But just checking mail before bed time.
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hi John
I am also using Outlook 2010 and I tried the ctrl + Delete key on two open
emails and nothing happened. Are you sure these are the keys you are using?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.  
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[John R. Vaughn]

Yes, you have to go into setting for OE 2010 and check a check box to do
this key combination.  If I see where that setting is, I will write back.
But just checking mail before bed time.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hi John
I am also using Outlook 2010 and I tried the ctrl + Delete key on two open
emails and nothing happened. Are you sure these are the keys you are using?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.  
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[John R. Vaughn]

Adrian, amen.  Nice that windows and jaws give us a number of options to
navigate the computer.  Issue for my 73 year old brain is remembering the
options. That is the joy of this list to help reinforce commands.
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is one of those situations where describing the process is more arduous
than just doing it. Control-home is no big deal, any more than alt-numpad2,
escape or control-d are. Soon enough habits are ingrained, and the process
takes no time or even thought. Now, as for other workarounds, they can be
annoying and time-consuming.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Dave, good point.  I usually only use the control d command when reading my
various groups like this jaws list where I read and want to delete. As
noted, you can always press escape to get back to the list of messages as
noted earlier.

John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

John, which is nice if you delete each one.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "John R. Vaughn" <jrvaugh...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 07:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC, Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[John R. Vaughn]

Dave, good point.  I usually only use the control d command when reading my
various groups like this jaws list where I read and want to delete. As
noted, you can always press escape to get back to the list of messages as
noted earlier.

John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

John, which is nice if you delete each one.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "John R. Vaughn" <jrvaugh...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 07:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[John Fitzgerald]

I do the same here in outlook 2010, and if I wish to keep a message, a simple
press of the escape key puts me back where I need to be to go through the rest
of my inbox.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

John, which is nice if you delete each one.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "John R. Vaughn" <jrvaugh...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 07:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[John R. Vaughn]

When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.  
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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