Re: smart navigation?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

From what I can tell smart navigation is not really meant for normal
websites (despite the fact that it was enabled by default). It is
instead meant for certain types of web applications and the like where
controls of various types dominate over text.

On 11/28/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw  wrote:
> I saw no point to smart navigation, except maybe ease in approaching tables.
> But this wrinkle puts an end to that idea. Thanks for posting.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal via
> Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:56 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Cristóbal
> Subject: RE: smart navigation?
>
> The one thing about it that bugs me is that when you're at the end of a
> table and arrow down, instead of being placed at the end of that table on
> the webpage, you're placed at the bottom of the webpage entirely. This is
> especially annoying as you don't' know you're out of the table until you
> arrow out of it. Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong on my end and simple
> lack of familiarity  with the feature, but it has been a frustrating
> experience on sites like Amazon.com product pages or banking account
> activity pages. All in all though, I do find Smart Navigation to be a plus
> but for this issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:42 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Dave Carlson
> Subject: Re: smart navigation?
>
> Ann,
>
> Based on the Podcast from FS, it helps us more readily "see" the actual
> layout of a web page by revealing it's layout. Also gives additional tools
> to navigate these areas. I've not explored it much yet, but in time I'll
> likely give it a shot.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Byrne via Jfw" 
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
> Cc: "Ann Byrne" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 08:21 AM
> Subject: smart navigation?
>
>
> Cool script.  What is so great about smart navigation???
>
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Re: Languages

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

To create a profile go to the jaws menu then Options -> voices ->
Voice adjustment.

To change profiles I use the jaws+ctrl+s combination.

Note that if your normal profile is based on the same synthesizer that
the new voices use and you use the windows language profile method
then jaws will automatically switch voices in programs like Word that
have support for multiple input languages. Meaning that if you switch
the windows language and start typing and the current jaws synthesizer
supports that language then jaws will simply switch to that language.

To switch the windows language (after using the region and languages
control panel to add one), use alt+left shift to toggle through the
available languages.

On 11/18/15, Keight Best via Jfw  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> Thank you for your help. I appreciate it. I listened to both of those
> voices and like both of them a lot, so I downloaded both of them for
> when I feel like changing it up.
> How do I create a language profile for them and what's the shortcut
> kys to switch between profiles?
> Thank you,
> Caitlin
>
> On 11/18/15, Cristóbal via Jfw  wrote:
>> Wouldn't you know, I was curious and went to the Jaws synth page and
>> Japanese was an option for Vocalizer Expressive. VE voices are really
>> quite
>> good. I use American English, Spanish Mexico (Juan high premium) and play
>> with German as I am trying to learn that language. I'm sure Japanese is of
>> similar good quality. They apparently offer two options; Kyoko and Otoya.
>> To
>> my ear, they sound fine, but that's a subjective thing.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:06 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Nermin
>> Subject: Re: Languages
>>
>> Hi Kate,
>>
>> I believe Nuance has a voice named Kioko that you can download and use
>> with
>>
>> JAWS.
>> Just go to help and more voices from within the JAWS menu.
>> This will open up a website where you can navigate to Japanese by heading.
>> You can listen to a voice sample and download the voice from there.
>> As far as Braille in Japanese is concerned, I don't really know much, let
>> alone how to enter Kanji or other symbols.
>> I think a Japanese version of JAWS is available, but no idea how recent it
>> is.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nermin
>>
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Re: Jaws 17.0.1214 Update Download Links & What's New / Fixed

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I would not count on it.

On 11/20/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> Good Day:
>
> First, thanks Mike.  This  helps me understand what's to come.
>
> Second, looking at 1 segment of the below list of changes, I am forced to
> ask if this segment...
>
> "
> . To address potential issues, changes have been made to the process of
> compiling scripts so they are compatible with versions of JAWS prior to 17.
> The Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the
> -c command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile
> scripts that will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the
> following line without the quotes into your JSS file: ";#pragma usePoFile
> 0"
> "
>
> ...  suggests that the Merge Utility may yet/soon be reintroduced into
> JAWS.
>
> You, Mike, may not know this; but, I hope that someone may.
>
> So, does it?
>
> Like I say, I'm not a techie; but, I do see connections that may get me to
> where I want to be!
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69ma...@charter.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:10 PM
> To: JFW List 
> Subject: Jaws 17.0.1214 Update Download Links & What's New / Fixed
>
> Howdy All,
>
> Below are the download links for the latest J17 update: & what's new /
> fixed
>
> in this release
>
> 32 Bit:
>
> http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J17.0.1214enu-x86.exe
>
> 64 Bit:
>
> http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J17.0.1214enu-x64.exe
>
> What's New:
>
> Enhancements in JAWS 17.0.1214 (November 2015)
>
> The following is a list of improvements made between the initial JAWS 17
> release and the November 2015 update.
>
> Smart Navigation
> list of 6 items
> . When INSERT+X is used to toggle Smart Navigation, the JAWS focus now
> remains at the location on the web page where you performed the toggle.
> . The command to temporarily toggle Smart Navigation (INSERT+X) can now be
> found using the JAWS Command Search feature (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J).
> . Resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading list items on certain web
> pages when using Smart Navigation.
> . Addressed a reported issue with the commands to read from the beginning
> of
>
> the line to the cursor (INSERT+HOME) and from the cursor to the end of the
> line (INSERT+PAGE UP) not working in a table cell when using Smart
> Navigation.
> . When using the V and SHIFT+V Navigation Quick Keys to move to the next or
> previous visited link, resolved an issue where all links on the current
> line
> were being read instead of the specific visited link if Smart Navigation
> was
>
> active.
> . Addressed an issue where many blank lines were appearing on some web
> pages
>
> with Smart Navigation active.
> list end
>
> JAWS
> list of 12 items
> . Addressed an issue with the Amazon Product Search Research It lookup
> source not returning results as expected.
> . Addressed an issue with symbols not being read as expected when inserted
> into a document using the Select a Symbol to Print dialog box (INSERT+4).
> . In response to customer feedback, the folder path for the Explore Scripts
> shortcut has been changed from C:\ProgramData\Freedom
> Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Scripts\enu
> to point to C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\17.0\Scripts.
> . This update contains new drivers from HumanWare for the Brailiant BI
> braille display in order to support Windows 10.
> . If Active Follows Braille is not enabled, addressed issues where the
> braille display would not move away from the structured line when panning,
> or using
> the commands to move the braille cursor to the next or prior line (RIGHT
> ROCKER BAR on Focus Blue braille displays).
> . When entering text from the Perkins-style keyboard on a braille display
> using Unified English Braille (UEB) or another form of Contracted English
> Braille,
> resolved an issue where contracted words beginning with dots 4-5-6, such as
> spirit, many, world, etc., were not appearing correctly in documents. The
> dots
> 4-5-6 portion of the word was being dropped when the word was
> back-translated.
> . When verbosity for Braille Flash messages is set to Advanced, resolved
> customer reported issues where "sts" messages were being shown on the
> braille
> display even when the option to display status information was turned off.
> In addition, the flash messages for the INSERT+T and INSERT+Q commands now
> display
> the short message as expected instead of the long message.
> . If the JAWS cursor is configured to follow the PC Cursor using the
> CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD Minus command, an issue was resolved where JAWS was not
> reading
> as expected when moving between applications with ALT+TAB.
> . Addressed an issue with JAWS not correctly identifying the factorial
> symbol in MathML content.
> . If you perform a two-finger double tap to open a context menu while text
> selection is active, the flick gestures will now work as expected to
> navigate

Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Changes to the insert symbol dialog are accomplished by editing the
lists in vkeyboard.jsm (and then re-compiling vkeyboard.jss)

On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw  wrote:
> It's more complicated than that. I keep encountering new problems whose
> solutions I'd figured out in the past but had to analyze all over again.
> Fixes can also be time-consuming. I'm now having to re-enter all my old
> placemarkers. Last night I discovered that JAWS isn't verbalizing symbols I
> enter via the JAWS insert-4 symbols list. I think I encountered this problem
> before, but can't remember which setting fixed it. (In my case, it's the
> result of using a combination of JAWS and the Dectalk Express synthesizer.)
> I've also had to remove the check for inline frames, change my forms fields
> sounds again, and so on. At least I could copy over my dictionary.jdf file,
> which would have been a nightmare to restore. JAWS 17 changed the pitch of
> my synthesizer to a level that irritated my ears and spoiled my
> comprehension. It took at least an hour to figure out that in voice
> profiles, you can't change pitch when the synth is set to "all," but a pitch
> dialog does appear when you try to change the PC cursor, JAWS cursor, etc.,
> default. A whole lot of reconstruction that shouldn't be necessary.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> Technical whizzes?  We're not talking programming, or scripting, or anything
> very difficult!  For instance, I don't use typing echo, except in
> spreadsheets, where errors can be hard to find and fix.  Accordingly, I just
> tweak Excel to speak characters, while allowing other programs to run with
> Typing Echo off.  Maybe I run more out of the box than many folks here do,
> but that really isn't rocket science, requiring only a  few seconds to set
> and save.  I like the merge feature, but, as I said earlier, I deliberately
> did not merge 15's settings to 16, in order to avoid some minor file
> corruption that occurred in 15--no big deal.
>
> Having said that, I don't know when I'll switch to 17, simply because 16 is
> one of the coolest versions I've ever run,  and I am reluctant to give it
> up.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
> via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:55 PM
> To: 'Bissett, Tom'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> Tom:
>
> For you, it may not be a "show stopper".  However, for some of us, it would
> appear to be.  We can not all be technical wizzes!  And, such screen-reading
> programmes should work for "everyone", technically inclined or not!
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bissett, Tom [mailto:tom.biss...@bmo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> If you recall we had the same situation going from jaws 12 to jaws 13.
> Because of the number and type of changes a merge was not possible.  We are
> seeing the same situation again.  I am sure FS will have a merge moving
> from
> 17 to 18.
> I realize it is an inconvenience but really!  Itss not a show stopper.
> Tom Bisset
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of judith bron
> via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:37 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: judith bron
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> When Freedom scientific first began way back when their mission statement
> was to provide a program to the blind and visually impaired world that would
> allow them to work the computer using keystrokes rather than a mouse.  We've
> come a long way since then but it seems that part of the mission statement
> has been lost in the mire.  Business has to keep progressing but losing
> sight of your mission eventually reduces all the economic progress.  There
> are other screen readers.  I hope FS doesn't wake up one day to hear that
> their popularity and standing in the blind community has been replaced by
> another company.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
> via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:50 PM
> To: 'Pablo Morales'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> Pablo :
>
> Sorry, I had replied to this in the incorrect manner; so, I am resending my
> reply to your message below.
>
> 
>
> Anyone wishing to complain about "no Merge Utility in JAWS 17" 

Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Oh, those are the .spl files

On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Soronel, and I'll make a note of this. However, I haven't changed
> that file. I just can't get JAWS 17 to verbalize the existing standard
> symbols. I vaguely recall making some adjustment somewhere to correct the
> problem, but can't remember where. I assume the problem lies in my using a
> wonderful but senile Dectalk Express as my synthesizer.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:02 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Soronel Haetir
> Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> Changes to the insert symbol dialog are accomplished by editing the
> lists in vkeyboard.jsm (and then re-compiling vkeyboard.jss)
>
> On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> It's more complicated than that. I keep encountering new problems whose
>> solutions I'd figured out in the past but had to analyze all over again.
>> Fixes can also be time-consuming. I'm now having to re-enter all my old
>> placemarkers. Last night I discovered that JAWS isn't verbalizing symbols
>> I
>> enter via the JAWS insert-4 symbols list. I think I encountered this
>> problem
>> before, but can't remember which setting fixed it. (In my case, it's the
>> result of using a combination of JAWS and the Dectalk Express
>> synthesizer.)
>> I've also had to remove the check for inline frames, change my forms
>> fields
>> sounds again, and so on. At least I could copy over my dictionary.jdf
>> file,
>> which would have been a nightmare to restore. JAWS 17 changed the pitch
>> of
>> my synthesizer to a level that irritated my ears and spoiled my
>> comprehension. It took at least an hour to figure out that in voice
>> profiles, you can't change pitch when the synth is set to "all," but a
>> pitch
>> dialog does appear when you try to change the PC cursor, JAWS cursor,
>> etc.,
>> default. A whole lot of reconstruction that shouldn't be necessary.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
>> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>> Technical whizzes?  We're not talking programming, or scripting, or
>> anything
>> very difficult!  For instance, I don't use typing echo, except in
>> spreadsheets, where errors can be hard to find and fix.  Accordingly, I
>> just
>> tweak Excel to speak characters, while allowing other programs to run
>> with
>> Typing Echo off.  Maybe I run more out of the box than many folks here
>> do,
>> but that really isn't rocket science, requiring only a  few seconds to
>> set
>> and save.  I like the merge feature, but, as I said earlier, I
>> deliberately
>> did not merge 15's settings to 16, in order to avoid some minor file
>> corruption that occurred in 15--no big deal.
>>
>> Having said that, I don't know when I'll switch to 17, simply because 16
>> is
>> one of the coolest versions I've ever run,  and I am reluctant to give it
>> up.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>> Hamilton
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:55 PM
>> To: 'Bissett, Tom'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
>> Cc: Jim Hamilton
>> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>> Tom:
>>
>> For you, it may not be a "show stopper".  However, for some of us, it
>> would
>> appear to be.  We can not all be technical wizzes!  And, such
>> screen-reading
>> programmes should work for "everyone", technically inclined or not!
>>
>> Jim H
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bissett, Tom [mailto:tom.biss...@bmo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:55 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>> If you recall we had the same situation going from jaws 12 to jaws 13.
>> Because of the number and type of changes a merge was not possible.  We
>> are
>> seeing the same situation again.  I am sure FS will have a merge moving
>> from
>> 17 to 18.
>> I realize

Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I took a look at eloq.sbl and the default list with jfw17 is in fact
quite a bit shorter than for earlier versions. I did not examine the
files closely enough to determine which characters were removed.

jfw16 had about 190 characters for English in the default eloq.sbl
file, but jfw17 has only130.

On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You know the symbols list that you bring up with JAWS key+4 (on the number
> row above the letters)? I can select a symbol from that list and press enter
> to paste it into a document. However, JAWS is not verbalizing those symbols
> once they're pasted.
>
> Again, the problem may be specific to my combination of JAWS and the
> synthesizer Dectalk Express.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via
> Jfw
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 2:25 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Mike B
> Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> What do you mean by your standard symbols aren't being spoken?  Is it
> possible that your punctuation level setting has been changed?  Try setting
>
> the punctuation level to, Some, to see if this helps.  Or, am I way off
> track?
> Take care.
> Mike
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Soronel Haetir
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>
>
> Oh, those are the .spl files
>
> On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Soronel, and I'll make a note of this. However, I haven't changed
>> that file. I just can't get JAWS 17 to verbalize the existing standard
>> symbols. I vaguely recall making some adjustment somewhere to correct the
>> problem, but can't remember where. I assume the problem lies in my using
>> a
>> wonderful but senile Dectalk Express as my synthesizer.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
>> Haetir
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:02 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Soronel Haetir
>> Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>
>> Changes to the insert symbol dialog are accomplished by editing the
>> lists in vkeyboard.jsm (and then re-compiling vkeyboard.jss)
>>
>> On 11/16/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>>> It's more complicated than that. I keep encountering new problems whose
>>> solutions I'd figured out in the past but had to analyze all over again.
>>> Fixes can also be time-consuming. I'm now having to re-enter all my old
>>> placemarkers. Last night I discovered that JAWS isn't verbalizing
>>> symbols
>>> I
>>> enter via the JAWS insert-4 symbols list. I think I encountered this
>>> problem
>>> before, but can't remember which setting fixed it. (In my case, it's the
>>> result of using a combination of JAWS and the Dectalk Express
>>> synthesizer.)
>>> I've also had to remove the check for inline frames, change my forms
>>> fields
>>> sounds again, and so on. At least I could copy over my dictionary.jdf
>>> file,
>>> which would have been a nightmare to restore. JAWS 17 changed the pitch
>>> of
>>> my synthesizer to a level that irritated my ears and spoiled my
>>> comprehension. It took at least an hour to figure out that in voice
>>> profiles, you can't change pitch when the synth is set to "all," but a
>>> pitch
>>> dialog does appear when you try to change the PC cursor, JAWS cursor,
>>> etc.,
>>> default. A whole lot of reconstruction that shouldn't be necessary.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
>>> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM
>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>>> Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained
>>>
>>> Technical whizzes?  We're not talking programming, or scripting, or
>>> anything
>>> very difficult!  For instance, I don't use typing echo, except in
>>> spreadsheets, where errors can be hard to find and fix.  Accordingly, I
>>> just
>>> tweak Excel to speak characters, while allowing other programs to run
>>> with
>>> Typing Echo off.  Maybe I run more out of

Re: Languages

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I don't know for sure but there is at least one Japanese voice
available for the various non-Eloquence synthesizers that jaws
supports.

On 11/15/15, Ron Worley Home via Jfw  wrote:
> First of all, Do you know if JAWS can support Japanese languages?  When I
> go
> into the language list, I do not see Japanese as one of the supported
> languages for the eloquence synthesizer.  I believe you would have to
> create
> a voice profile with a synthesizer that supports Japanese.  Then you can
> switch voice profiles with the command JAWSKey+control+s.  Arrow up or down
> to your desired profile and press enter.  It will begin immediately.  I
> will
> be glad to give you the steps for creating a profile; but, I don't have a
> synthesizer that supports Japanese.  It isn't too hard otherwise.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Keight Best
> via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:13 PM
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Cc: Keight Best
> Subject: Languages
>
> Hello again!!
> This is the most I have posted here in quite a long time. My next question
> is...well, let me give you some background first.
> I will be applying to a school in Japan and learning Japanese as well.
> So, this is going to be something important to me.
> I know you can change language settings in JAWS, but I'm unsure how and
> unsure how I would go about applying something like a hotkey to switch
> between ENglish and Japanese languages with JAWS.
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thank you again!
> Sincerely,
> CAitlin
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Re: Languages

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I'm not sure that it can be done with a single hotkey but you can
change voice profiles with jaws+scrl+s, and you can create a voice
profile that uses a different language synthesizer by default.

But I would say that is generally the wrong approach, instead I would
add Japanese to the region and language settings control panel, and if
you then switch between the system regions programs that can deal with
that will automatically pick up on it.

If you add an additional language profile like that you can then
switch between them with alt+left shift.

On 11/14/15, Keight Best via Jfw  wrote:
> Hello again!!
> This is the most I have posted here in quite a long time. My next
> question is...well, let me give you some background first.
> I will be applying to a school in Japan and learning Japanese as well.
> So, this is going to be something important to me.
> I know you can change language settings in JAWS, but I'm unsure how
> and unsure how I would go about applying something like a hotkey to
> switch between ENglish and Japanese languages with JAWS.
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thank you again!
> Sincerely,
> CAitlin
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Re: Vocalizer direct voices

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You have to enable Vocalizer Direct separate from Expressive in
Synthesizer and Braille manager. That is found under Utilities on the
jaws menu.

On 11/13/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw  wrote:
> I'm trying to create a profile using a vocalizer direct voice. I've
> downloaded two of them. However, I can't get either one to show up either in
> "Voice adjustment" or the synthesizer choices in "voice profiles" under
> Language.
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Re: Key mapping question.

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I use a tool called SharpKeys for that, it is available at
https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/

On 11/12/15, Michael Mote via Jfw  wrote:
> Good afternoon folks!  I pose this question to the list because I know
> they're a lot of smart folks on here who may be able to give me some
> advice.
> I have a new keyboard that does not have an applications key on it.  I
> would
> like to map one of my keys on the spacebar row to serve as the apps key.
> Does anyone know how I can do this?  For now, I'm using shift plus F10 to
> do
> this, but it would be a lot easier to just have an apps key.  Many thanks
> for any help!
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Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Given that whatever they are talking about is a year away I would say
wait and see what they are actually talking about before getting
worked up about it.

On 11/12/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> Ted:
>
> In my view, "acceptable" is not good enough.  There really SHOULD be an
> alternative for those who do not want to/cannot use the cloud!
>
> If users would pressure FS on this point, I believe that it will happen;
> but, they will have to do so ASAP.  FS does have a history of responding to
> users' concerns.  So, let's see if FS still takes their customers, and
> their
> customer service seriously!
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.li...@ky.gov]
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:53 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility - GONE!!
>
> If it comes to requiring, I'd agree, Jim.  Having it as an alternative for
> those who desire it would be acceptable though.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
> via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 12:29 PM
> To: 'Aidan'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: RE: Merge Utility - GONE!!
>
> To be honest, I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in storing ANYTHING in "any
> cloud".  The security risks outway any other factor in my decision!  So, if
> JAWS 17 will "require" the use of "cloud storage", I will NOT use JAWS 17!
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aidan [mailto:aidan.smartt...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 4:14 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!
>
> Jim I agree. Really, unless if they will at least allow the cloud of your
> choice? Then I can safe to dropbox or google drive, that will make more
> sense, but even then, really their priorities stinks.
>
> On 05/11/2015, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) via Jfw 
> wrote:
>> Give me a break; that's why The Good Lord invented hard drives.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:35 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Aidan
>> Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!
>>
>> I heard that yes, the only thing is that it should've been ready by
>> now. But sound intresting.
>>
>> On 05/11/2015, David Moore via Jfw  wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> When I was listening to the latest webinar about JAWS 17, Dan Clark
>>> said something about that that they were replacing the merge utility
>>> with something that would allow people to save all settings in the
>>> cloud. So, I am not sure what they are thinking about, but it will be
>>> totally different than the merge utility.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Aidan via Jfw
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:25 AM
>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>> Cc: Aidan
>>> Subject: Re: Merge Utility - GONE!!
>>>
>>> Jim. Know one noes when they will bring an replacement tool back. I
>>> suspect probibly in version 18. Because they only say they working on
>>> something more improved for customers. I don't know what that means,
>>> but they of the rode.
>>>
>>> On 05/11/2015, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
 There seems to be a storm brewing regarding the fact that the Merge
 Utility is not part of JAWS V: 17.  Why was this problem not worked
 out before JAWS
 17 was released?  Clearly, FS knew that previous version settings
 could not be "merged" as in previous versions; so, FS should have
 fixed it before it became a problem!

 Can you tell us in which very early-on JAWS Version: 17 update will
 this fix appear?  At this time, I am planning to wait until the "fix
 is in" before upgrading to Version: 17.  Of course, this will mean
 waiting to install Windows 10; but, it cannot be helped!

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Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The only possible benefit I could see of allowing jaws to save
settings to the cloud is if they loosen the licensing system so that
it is easier for a single user to use many devices.

On 11/6/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> For one, I will continue to ignore requests to store "anything" in the
> cloud!  There is already far too much information out there, online, about
> myself, and don't want any additional windows into my life.  If FS has this
> in mind for saving/changing our JAWS settings, I will strongly protest.  Of
> course, before protesting, I will wait to see what happens.
>
> Jim H
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Re: merge utility

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

That would be okay but I have thousands of dictionary entries (enough
so that I run into the hard limits of 2000 entries for each of the
default and program dictionaries). And also enough that I have
problems each year as FS expands the default dictionary (and
unfortunately most of those additions are for languages other than
English and so I end up deleting them).

On 11/5/15, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> All this time, I have reconstructed my dictionary from version to
> version, as well as speak dollar last, speed, etc.It is surprising how
> fast I have gotten since JAWS 4.5 up to 17.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
> Haetir via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:42 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Soronel Haetir <soronel.hae...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: merge utility
>
> Note that at least in the case of dictionary and script files you don't
> actually have to start over, you just have to copy the files yourself.  I
> don't know if there are enough differences to actually make that not work
> for .jcf files or not, I didn't try with those.
>
> On 11/4/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to
>> be fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important
> this is.
>> Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to
>> start all over again with the settings they've created over the course
>> of years? Note that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which
> I've corrected.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
>> Campbell via Jfw
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Maria Campbell
>> Subject: Re: murge utility
>>
>> I agree completely.  Enough said.
>>
>> On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
>>> They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer
>>> being important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that
>>> it would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
>>> replacement tool wich could be in 17?
>>> Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
>>> use the settings packager to acomplish that?
>>> I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart
>>> navigation, wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this
>>> was going to be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not
>>> ready it will affect everyone negatively.
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Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Is there actually a disk in the drive? Many systems are set to hide
empty drives.

On 11/1/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw  wrote:
> Try typing into the search box:
> d:
>
> See if windows can find it.
>
> Or go to run, which is still windows-r and type in the letter of the
> DVD drive--presumably but not certainly d:.
>
> Good luck!
> At 05:53 PM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>I now have Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17 installedon 2 computers.
>>
>>On the desktop, "This PC" displays the local drives. On 1 computer,
>>the DVD drive is displayed while on the other it is not.
>>
>>I cannot access a DVD if it is not displayed in "This PC".
>>
>>The other problem is that, since upgrading to Windows 10,  the auto
>>play no longer works on both computers.
>>
>>The:
>>   use auto play for all media ...
>>is checked.
>>
>>Any ideas? Thanks.
>>
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Re: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

No, I was describing a setup where I do not experience the problem
being talked about. The speakers built into my HP laptop are of too
low quality to even attempt using for long periods.

On 10/31/15, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> So, are you saying that the problem occurs when you are using your USB
> headset instead of the on-board soundcard.
>
> Debbie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 2:12 PM
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> Cc: Soronel Haetir <soronel.hae...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17
>
> I should mention that I don't use the onboard sound, I instead use a
> USB headset.
>
> On 10/31/15, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I experienced this problem with JAWS 16 on my Dell Latitude. Maybe it's
>> something to do with Dell laptop's soundcards. Please let me know if you
>> resolve it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Debbie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
>> via
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 12:52 PM
>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> Cc: Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17
>>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I don’t know if others are experiencing this with the new Jaws or if it
>> was
>> something that was present during the beta.
>>
>> I downloaded and installed Jaws 17 yesterday on my Dell Vostro laptop
>> Windows 7 after wrapping up business for the week and one thing I’m
>> immediately noticing is that the sound (when Eloquence speaks) dips every
>> now and then.
>>
>> This was not an issue with JFW 16 and I’m pretty sure I didn’t deal with
>> it
>> in JFW 15, but I do recall encountering this problem a while back. I
>> remember it was a pain and it took me forever to resolve it. Also, it
>> doesn’t seem to be preset when using my headset.
>>
>> The only thing different on my machine since dealing with this sound issue
>> is the new Jaws 17. I’m almost hopeful that others will say that they too
>> are having the same problem because I’d really hate to have to go back and
>> figure out how I got rid of this problem last time since again, it was so
>> long ago and wasn’t exactly easy if memory serves.
>>
>> I usually participate in the beta cycle, but this year, I passed so this
>> is
>> why I’m not entirely sure if it’s Jaws.
>>
>> I’m still running JFW 16 on my desktop and don’t have this sound
>> fluctuation
>> with it.
>>
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Re: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I should mention that I don't use the onboard sound, I instead use a
USB headset.

On 10/31/15, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I experienced this problem with JAWS 16 on my Dell Latitude. Maybe it's
> something to do with Dell laptop's soundcards. Please let me know if you
> resolve it.
>
> Thanks
> Debbie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal via
> Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 12:52 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Cristóbal 
> Subject: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17
>
> Hello list,
>
> I don’t know if others are experiencing this with the new Jaws or if it was
> something that was present during the beta.
>
> I downloaded and installed Jaws 17 yesterday on my Dell Vostro laptop
> Windows 7 after wrapping up business for the week and one thing I’m
> immediately noticing is that the sound (when Eloquence speaks) dips every
> now and then.
>
> This was not an issue with JFW 16 and I’m pretty sure I didn’t deal with it
> in JFW 15, but I do recall encountering this problem a while back. I
> remember it was a pain and it took me forever to resolve it. Also, it
> doesn’t seem to be preset when using my headset.
>
> The only thing different on my machine since dealing with this sound issue
> is the new Jaws 17. I’m almost hopeful that others will say that they too
> are having the same problem because I’d really hate to have to go back and
> figure out how I got rid of this problem last time since again, it was so
> long ago and wasn’t exactly easy if memory serves.
>
> I usually participate in the beta cycle, but this year, I passed so this is
> why I’m not entirely sure if it’s Jaws.
>
> I’m still running JFW 16 on my desktop and don’t have this sound
> fluctuation
> with it.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: Computer sound dipping with Jaws 17

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I don't normally use eloquence for say all operations (I use eloquence
mainly in programming environments while using a natural sounding
synth for things where I expect large amounts of normal text) but just
did one and did not notice any volume inconsistency.  The only thing
that did seem different was that the speech rate did not increase as
the text was read, which was a nice improvement from prior jaws
versions.

On 10/31/15, Cristóbal via Jfw  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I don’t know if others are experiencing this with the new Jaws or if it was
> something that was present during the beta.
>
> I downloaded and installed Jaws 17 yesterday on my Dell Vostro laptop
> Windows 7 after wrapping up business for the week and one thing I’m
> immediately noticing is that the sound (when Eloquence speaks) dips every
> now and then.
>
> This was not an issue with JFW 16 and I’m pretty sure I didn’t deal with it
> in JFW 15, but I do recall encountering this problem a while back. I
> remember it was a pain and it took me forever to resolve it. Also, it
> doesn’t seem to be preset when using my headset.
>
> The only thing different on my machine since dealing with this sound issue
> is the new Jaws 17. I’m almost hopeful that others will say that they too
> are having the same problem because I’d really hate to have to go back and
> figure out how I got rid of this problem last time since again, it was so
> long ago and wasn’t exactly easy if memory serves.
>
> I usually participate in the beta cycle, but this year, I passed so this is
> why I’m not entirely sure if it’s Jaws.
>
> I’m still running JFW 16 on my desktop and don’t have this sound
> fluctuation
> with it.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Windows 10 and JAWS 15?

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And even then not the original jfw16, you have to use one of the later builds.

On 10/28/15, Joseph Lee via Jfw  wrote:
> Hi,
> None, as JFW 16 is the earliest version that'll work with Windows 10 (17 is
> the one that'll work better with Windows 10).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
> via
> Jfw
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 5:08 PM
> To: jfw stuff 
> Cc: Dan Beaver 
> Subject: Windows 10 and JAWS 15?
>
> Hi,
>
> How much of Windows 10 does Jaws 15 work with?  I am trying to determine if
> I really need to purchase a upgrade or not since I don't use Jaws for much
> anymore.  Mainly just for certain problem issues.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Using Jaws with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro for Arduino

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VS (especially VS2013) works very well with jaws, it is only the
plug-in (which I have not used so can't help with) that seems to be
the problem.

Even VS2015 works reasonably well now that I have written some basic
scripts to get rid of the line numbers and to handle debugging events.
Not anything like the packaged 2013 scripts that can also deal with
the form designer, most of what I do is native c++ so the designer
isn't much of a concern to me.

On 10/9/15, John Pocs via Jfw  wrote:
> Sorry the previous link is not the right one.
> Here is the right one:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/12/11/making-visual-studio
> -accessible.aspx
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Pocs via
> Jfw
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:24 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: John Pocs
> Subject: RE: Using Jaws with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro for
> Arduino
>
> Hello E. Sakthivel,
>
> I don't know of any tutorial about Jaws with Visual Studio, but there is an
> Accessability teanm at  Microsoft that is commited to make Visual Studio
> compatible with Jaws.
> Please check out the link below
> You can find some good information here.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2013/12/11/making-visual-studio
> -accessible.aspx
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sakthi e via
> Jfw
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 7:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Sakthi e
> Subject: Re: Using Jaws with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro for
> Arduino
>
> you have tutorial for visual studio with jaws note.
> Please send me.
> I am search for this subject. Because I want work visual basic, visual c,
> visual C++ and visual c# net software using JAWS software.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/8/15, John Pocs via Jfw  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm using Jaws 16 with Visual Studio 2013 and Visual Micro Arduino
>> plug in extension.
>>
>> Some of the combo boxes do not open the lists when pressing ALT+Down
> arrow.
>>
>> This might be application related or perhaps script related.
>>
>> By the way, Visual Studio 2013 uses the script file for the 2010
>> version and there is no newer one in Jaws 16.
>>
>> Is there anyone using this development environment and perhaps can
>> provide some feedback?
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
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Re: JAWS scripting

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I've never had need of them myself but for the first problem, if the
information is always in the same spot on screen you might want to
look at the jaws' frames facility. As I understand it a frame is sort
of like a virtual window jaws lays on top of the real window and you
can then get the text within the frame or be informed when the text
changes.

And for the dialer, again I've never had need of it myself but there
is a package called hot spot clicker maintained by a list member that
may be of assistance, again especially if the window always appears at
the same screen coordinates (or possibly at the same offset from its
parent).

As far as the list box goes have you tried assigning the listbox class
to the control? (Admittedly a long shot for apps written using modern
methods but still worth a try).



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> direct me where to send this inquiry.  I just got a new job at a
> Teleperformance organization called Alliance One.  They use a software
> package called Facs Work station, and while it works reasonably well, there
> are some issues.  The first, I’m trying to write a script that tells me the
> client’s name and balance before I call them.  The information is at the top
> of the window, in read only edit boxes that are not tabable.  I use the find
> string function in my script, but it doesn’t always retrieve an accurate
> result.  Secondly, there is a manual dialer window that pops up when you hit
> shift+f-12, and I’m wondering if I can automate finding this box and moving
> focus to the edit box where I can enter the phone number.  Last but not
> least, is there a way to make a list box read that JAWS does not read with
> the PC cursor?  Any help would be greatly appreciated, as it would help me
> speed up doing my job tremendously.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Guy
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Re: vocalizer frustration

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I suspect it is a money issue, that FS simply doesn't want to pay the
licensing fees for the highest quality voices.

The one I am disappointed about is how Emily did not survive the move
from RealSpeak Solo Direct. I like Emily enough that I still use RSD
rather than either of the vocalizer offerings.

On 9/18/15, Aidan via Jfw  wrote:
> Hello.
> I wunder why freedom is so ignorant. The vocalizer eexpressive Cate
> and Vicky are on the mac, on text allowed and dolphin guide, but only
> jaws lacks behind in this. Really unexceptible.
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Re: G force experience update Nvidia

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I had a recent update notification from nVidia, what I found what a
list where some items had no text and there was a line that read
something like "g Force driver download" (not sure about the leading
part, but do know it ended with "download") hitting space on that line
didn't do anything but using the jaws cursor to click on "download"
started a browser session for the download page.

On 9/14/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I wonder if you can run the convenient OCR while in that dialog to learn
> more about those buttons?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim L via Jfw" 
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
> Cc: "Jim L" 
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:33 AM
> Subject: G force experience update Nvidia
>
>
> Heya folks,
>
> Am running Jaws 16 and for awhile now have had issues updating my nvidia
> video drivers using G force experience
> When I am in the G force experience program I can get to the update area
> and
> what to check and uncheck etc but under all that there's 4 to 5 unlabeled
> buttons jaws just reads as button, button etc
> Does anyone know the order of what these buttons do?
> Any help will be appreciated
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
>
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Re: How to paste into the Windows Command Line

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An easier way is to just right click in the command window.

On 9/17/15, Bill White via Jfw  wrote:
> A little while ago I wrote to ask how to perform a paste operation in the
> Windows command line. I found the answer, and am posting it here, in case
> anyone else might want to use it later.
>
> How To Paste Into The Windows Command Line
>
>
>
>
> 1. Copy to the clipboard what you want to paste into the command line.
>
>  2. Open the command line.
>
>  3. Use ALT plus SPACE to bring up a menu.
>
>  4. Press the letter E to bring up the Edit submenu.
>
>  5. Press the letter P to perform the Paste operation.
>
> Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Re: jaws scripts for vmware player

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

My experience is that extra scripts are not needed, that those
included with jaws do more than well enough.

On 9/9/15, paul faucheux via Jfw  wrote:
> Where can I find vmware player 5 scripts for jaws. This is paul faucheux. I
> will be using vmware player for school online.
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Re: alphabetical list view

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

If you are talking about a windows explorer window, tab to the header
bar, select the 'Name' item and hit space.


On 9/4/15, Daniel McBride via Jfw  wrote:
> Group:
>
> In my documents folders, in which I have many items, it is listing the
> documents in reverse alphabetical order. I have forgotten where to go to
> reverse the order.
>
> Daniel
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Re: language question

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Also, if you are using MS word or word pad as the editor, you can
produce accented characters by hitting ctrl+ followed by a
letter key, for instance to get "a with accent" using word you would
type ctrl+', a. At least this works when using a standard us keyboard
layout. It unfortunately does not work in the regular windows edit
control, or the custom edit used by Firefox.

On 9/3/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw  wrote:
> Hi, Sandra.
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. Remember Dave Carlson's point that different synthesizers lead to
> different results in the JAWS dictionary. You might want to specify which
> synthesizer you're using. Eloquence? I have the Dectalk Plus, which means
> anything I get might not work with Eloquence.
>
> 2. You can obtain a list of symbols, including accented letters, by pressing
> JAWS key+4 (on the number row above the letters). Arrow down the list. It
> isn't complete, I'm afraid, but there are some French-accented  letters.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra
> Streeter via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 6:09 PM
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Cc: Sandra Streeter
> Subject: language question
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> Continuing to solve this mystery—someone suggested a variant spelling to
> use, but it already didn’t work in the post, so that’s out. However, someone
> else suggested experimenting with the grave-accent. I am betraying my age
> here, but when I was taking high school French, I had the dubious and
> tedious task of hand-typing the accents half a space above the letters—yes,
> on a Smith Corona! I have never yet learned how to produce the various
> accents using a computer—so, if anyone would like to send me a list, I would
> be so-o-o grateful! If this verges on off-topic, feel free to email me. I
> will have more ammo for getting JAWS to reproduce the French
> pronunciations—thanks in advance for new suggestions!
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sandra
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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

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I am not aware of any way to change the punctuation level without
changing profiles. I usually have punctuation turned off but do have a
profile with punctuation enabled that I can switch to with
jaws+ctrl+s, unfortunately I also don't know an easy way to select a
profile that is not saved as the default (either jaws-wide or just for
the current application).

On 8/29/15, patatips via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
 punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
 Blessings and All the Very Best,
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Re: Question about updating jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Whether you would be able to run a non-demo jaws 17 depends on your
SMA status with jaws 16. You can examine this in the jaws about
window, where it says  Software Maintenance Agreement upgrades
remaining

On 8/28/15, Michael Chopra via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hey guys.  I have a question about updating jays.  I'm currently
 running jaws 16, if freedom scientific were to release jaws 17,
 would I be able to update it?
 Thanks.
 From Michael.

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Re: How to get location from File Save dialog

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

It's not super easy but still fairly easy, if you tab through the
dialog controls, just after Cancel in the default dialog there is a
Desktop split button, from there each time you hit right arrow jaws
will read a single path component.

I'm pretty sure the save as dialog has been like that since at least Vista.

Also, you can right click on that desktop button and there is an Edit
address choice, that allows you to hear the entire path at one go.

On 8/27/15, Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi all.

 Is there a quick way to get JAWS to read the location (i.e., library name
 or
 filesystem path) while in a File Save dialog?

 Some apps use the Documents library as the default. Other apps have their
 own location as the default. If you change the location when you save a
 file, this is sticky for some apps, and for other apps it is not sticky.
 Even if it is sticky, if it's been a while since I saved a file in the app,
 I may have forgotten where I last saved the file. So the bottom line is:
 Just about any time I save a file, I'd like to quickly find out where the
 File Save dialog is set to save the file, before I click the save button.

 It'd be nice if I could just hit JAWSKEY + T, but unfortunately, the
 current
 location path is not displayed in the title bar of the File Save dialog,
 so this doesn't work.

 The File Save dialog typically opens with focus in the file name field.
 The only way I know to obtain the location is to SHIFT + TAB about a half
 dozen times until I get to the confusingly titles toolbar desktop split
 button, press spacebar, then hit JAWSKEY + UP ARROW to read the current
 line. Note that the number of times I have to hit SHIFT + TAB to get to the
 toolbar desktop split button is variable, as the number of controls
 varies
 depending on the currently set location. So this method is time consuming
 and rather a PITA.

 Making matters worse, many applications use custom versions of the File
 Save dialog. Each new version of MS Office, for example, has a completely
 different File Save dialog. Other older apps, such as FS OpenBook, have
 an
 old Windows 98 style of File Save. Just as an example. How I get JAWS to
 read the current location varies depending on the style of File Save
 dialog the application is using.

 This is really a problem that is screaming for a built-in JAWS solution
 that
 would be universal across all applications and styles of File Save
 dialogs.

 Any ideas?

 As a final note, I train blind and visually impaired people on using the
 computer with JAWS, and one of the most frequent problems people encounter
 is that they don't know where they are saving their documents and
 subsequently are unable to locate them.
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Re: list box

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

As for list boxes, you use the up and down arrow keys.

On 8/22/15, Mark via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello Mark,

 You select your desired running application, in Windows 10, the same way
 you
 do/did in Windows 7 and/or Windows 8.  That is to say, you use key-combo
 Alt+Tab to bring up the running applications switch-to dialog box then,
 without releasing the Alt key, tap the Tab key to change application focus.
 When you hear the name of your desired application, simply release all of
 the keys.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
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 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:14 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Mark Furness
 Subject: list box

 How do you go through a list box?
 When I alt tab I hear running applications, how many are in the list, the
 name of the focus application, but I do not know how to go through the list
 so I can open up the desired program.

 Thank you for your help.

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Re: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Even when I could see I had no use for print screen.

On 8/21/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 This depends on which Lenovo model you are using.  You can
 sometimes swap the insert key and the applications key.  Since
 insert is the typical insert key, that may not be entirely
 desirable; however, with the laptop keyboard, the capslock key
 becomes the JAWS key.  Depending upon personal preference, this
 may be a good way to get both a JAWS key, which you absolutely
 need, and an applications key, which is pretty handy.
 The insert key, when it is not the JAWS key, is pretty useless.
 Though, I would love to replace the print screen key with
 something useful.  I don't think I've ever found a use for the
 print screen key.


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 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:32 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

 Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
 application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

 You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the
 right click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

 On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Often the right click and applications menus are the same.  Not
 always, but often.
 eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no Applications Key as is found on a

standard keyboard.  The Applications Key functions like a right
 mouse
click.  So,  how does someone do this without an Applications
 Key?
Or, perhaps better, how can someone make a key on the Lenovo act
 like
the Applications Key?



Thanks,

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Re: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the right
click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Often the right click and applications menus are the same.  Not
 always, but often.
 eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no Applications Key as is found on a standard
keyboard.  The Applications Key functions like a right mouse click.  So,
 how
does someone do this without an Applications Key?  Or, perhaps better, how
can someone make a key on the Lenovo act like the Applications Key?



Thanks,

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Re: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Also, if the keyboard has some key you aren't going to use, you can
employ SharpKeys (https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/) to remap that other
key.

I have done that with my laptop's print screen key, print screen is
simply something I don't need. It's a little annoying having it in
such a different spot than the normal applications key but I find it
less annoying than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
 application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

 You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the right
 click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

 On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Often the right click and applications menus are the same.  Not
 always, but often.
 eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no Applications Key as is found on a standard
keyboard.  The Applications Key functions like a right mouse click.  So,
 how
does someone do this without an Applications Key?  Or, perhaps better,
 how
can someone make a key on the Lenovo act like the Applications Key?



Thanks,

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Re: Visual studio with jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

If you are using the free edition I am pretty sure it's not going to
work all that well, just a limitation of the product.

I believe 2012 and 2013 are much better in that regard but can't speak
from personal experience as I use Pro (which works very well in my
experience).

On 8/19/15, Aqil Sajjad via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I just installed visual studio 2010 and am using it with Jaws. When I run
 the program, I get some lines telling me that the program has successfully
 run, but I don't see the text I designed the program to print on the screen.
 I am not sure if this is an issue of properly accessing the output window
 with jaws or if it is an issue with how I am using the cout and iostream
 commands. Should the text come out in the same wwindow as the output that
 gives the errors and other such stuff about how the program ran? Is there
 anyone here who is familiar with the use of visual studio with jaws and can
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Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

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I have managed a few successful drag-and-drops with jaws but it is
always a pain to get right. If the keyboard offers the same
capabilities I will always choose that route, even if it means more
work than a successful mouse drag would have been.

On 8/19/15, Bissett, Tom via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I have tried it on several ocasions with no success.  However I did
 inadvertently do it one time.  I managed to rearrange my desktop and could
 never get it back the way it was again.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
 via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:05 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

 I have experienced at least one instance where a program simply did not
 offer the copy/paste via keyboard. Other than that the jaws'
 drag-and-drop operation is so cumbersome that I see no advantage in using
 it/.

 On 8/18/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Excellent question!  I have always opted for the copy and paste method.
 I
 will be anxious to see what advantages there may be to the other.

 Jim H

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: John J. Fioravanti, Jr. fiore...@gmail.com
 Subject: Drag and drop with Jaws

 Hi:
 Can someone explain when you would use the drag and drop command
 rather than simply copying an item and pasting it somewhere else?
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Re: question on creating folders with windows live mail

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

To create a folder in windows explorer first place focus in the left
hand tree view. Highlight the folder that you wish to be the parent of
the new folder and right click. Go down to New' then select Folder
from the sub-menu. Type the name for the new folder and hit enter.

I am not sure what you mean when you say that you want the contents to
be created automatically.

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 Hello it is Tom. I am checking to see how to create folders and put specific

 contents into it automatically. Thanks, Tom

 -Original Message-
 From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:19 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Subject: RE: Drag and drop with Jaws

 What are the steps to perform JAWS drag-and-drop?

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 Haetir
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:52 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

 I have managed a few successful drag-and-drops with jaws but it is always a
 pain to get right. If the keyboard offers the same capabilities I will
 always choose that route, even if it means more work than a successful
 mouse
 drag would have been.

 On 8/19/15, Bissett, Tom via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I have tried it on several ocasions with no success.  However I did
 inadvertently do it one time.  I managed to rearrange my desktop and
 could never get it back the way it was again.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
 Haetir via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:05 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

 I have experienced at least one instance where a program simply did
 not offer the copy/paste via keyboard. Other than that the jaws'
 drag-and-drop operation is so cumbersome that I see no advantage in
 using it/.

 On 8/18/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Excellent question!  I have always opted for the copy and paste
 method.
 I
 will be anxious to see what advantages there may be to the other.

 Jim H

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: John J. Fioravanti, Jr. fiore...@gmail.com
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 Can someone explain when you would use the drag and drop command
 rather than simply copying an item and pasting it somewhere else?
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Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I have experienced at least one instance where a program simply did
not offer the copy/paste via keyboard. Other than that the jaws'
drag-and-drop operation is so cumbersome that I see no advantage in
using it/.

On 8/18/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Excellent question!  I have always opted for the copy and paste method.
 I
 will be anxious to see what advantages there may be to the other.

 Jim H

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 Fioravanti, Jr. via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: John J. Fioravanti, Jr. fiore...@gmail.com
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 Can someone explain when you would use the drag and drop command rather
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Re: Vocalizer with JAWS?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

You need to enable the synthesizer first, go to the jaws menu
(jaws+j), then under utilities choose Synthesizer and Braille
Manager.


In the manager hit the Add remove or change button.
Make sure Synthesizer is selected in the list and hit next.
From the check box list that follows make sure any synthesizer you
want to be able to use is checked then hit the Finish button.
Finally hit the 'Close button to exit the synthesizer and braille manager.

You may need to restart jaws in order to have this change take effect,
I am not sure.

After doing this the synthesizer should appear in the profiles list,
also in the voice adjustment dialog.

On 8/16/15, Steve Boodram via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi all, I recently installed some of the vocalizer voices from the FS site
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Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

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What I would really like would be a voice modem that allows routing
the voice call through the computer's audio hardware (rather than
through a dedicated port on the modem itself or with cheap models not
at all). And then use a program on the computer for dialing, for
answering etc, Get rid of the external telephone handset entirely.

Unfortunately the only devices I have found that actually do all of
the needed tasks for this are professional level equipment geared
toward computer based call centers and the like. Regular modems have
become such commodity equipment that in order to meet the price demand
the manufacturers  have stripped out every feature that is only rarely
used (which leaves the typical model pretty much a data/fax modem
regardless of any voice features advertised). Perhaps an answering
machine as well, but certainly not the full duplex voice capability
that phone conversations require.

On 8/17/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Here's where I purchased my dual Plantronics headset, and the actual model
 number. Teresa knows all about this special model.

 call one, inc.
 Teresa O'Daniel
 800 843-5432
 Plantronics Headset
 model smh-1783-11

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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 From: Brent Harding via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 09:56 AM
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


 I found a guy on Thumbtack that claims to be able to whip up a cable that
 would let me use any headset mic with those combination jacks Apple and
 other phones like to use now. I'm surprised even Plantronics didn't know
 there was such a thing, claiming the stuff they knew of was like an a/b
 switch. I remember one time when I did some transcription during school
 where I tried two headphones, and one busted right in half. What I tried to
 do was using two pairs of earphones, with the one behind's left earpiece
 pushed out of the way to get the front one to sit there.

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 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:38 PM
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


 Plantronics does this. I have a set. One side specific for the computer
 voice, the other has both the earpiece and the boom mike for telephone
 work.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:23 AM
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


 I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this
 one
 did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said
 that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she
 said
 she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a
 thing.
 So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed.

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 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them
 about that.  They may be able to steer you in the right direction.


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 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

 Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band
 3.5mm
 jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work
 where
 some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a
 cable
 from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to
 the
 other side, sort of like answering machines did.


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 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 The Amplifier is for the phone itself.  The Amp plugs into where the
 handset
 would be, and you run the headset that way.  I've used it before, and
 they
 work Ok.


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Re: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

More to the point, given that fast shutdown still results in a system
that is drawing no power (unlike a sleeping system which is still
maintaining ram coherence) what exactly do you see as the downside to
using it?

On 8/12/15, Mark Furness via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I followed your steps and I could not find “fast user switching.

 Mark
 On Aug 12, 2015, at 3:23 AM, Mark via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order
 to
 disable the Fast-User switching option.  Doing this will allow your
 computer
 to truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.

 To disable Fast-User Switching, do the following:

 1.
 Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
 methods:
 a.
 Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously
 press
 the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
 Power Options from that menu.
 b.
 From within the Desktop; navigate to Control PanelPower Options.
 Or c.
 From within the Start Screen; type power, click on Settings, and select
 Power Options from the list of results:

 2.
 In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do
 (from the left hand panel):

 3.
 In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently
 unavailable:

 4.
 Uncheck Fast user switching.

 That's all there is to it.

 Enjoy,

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Re: Showing items in the system tray

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Regardless, jaws+f11 should show all tray items, irrespective of
whether they are currently visible or not.

On 8/5/15, Bill White via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi, Jim. Assuming you are using Windows7, since you didn't specify:

 To always show all icons in the system tray


 1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key

  2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.

  3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.

  4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.

  5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Portillo via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Jim Portillo portillo@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:41 PM
 Subject: Showing items in the system tray


 Hi there,

 I'm using a Dell Venue tablet and need to know how to allow the items in
 my system tray to be displayed.
 I do the Insert-f11 command, and it only shows two things, when I think
 there could be more.  I simply don't remember how to enable all of the
 things to be displayed in Windows 8.

 While I'm at it, how can I find out if my tablet is eligible to upgrade to

 Windows 10?

 Thanks.
 Jim

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Re: Another Windows LogOn question

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

There is a blank screen screen save you could use.

Or in the power options there should be a box for When plugged in
turn off the screen after  setting.

On 8/2/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 That one was easy! Thanks.

 Stilll hoping to get the post log on log off fixed. Keith

 -Original Message-
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 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:46 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: Another Windows LogOn question

 Go to the screen saver settings and disable it.

 On 8/2/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:
 Hi,

 I have the Windows 7 LogOn message enabled, and I need it on as 2 of
 us share this computer and we each want our separate documents and
 music folders.

 I would like, however, that the Windows screen doesn't lock periodically.
 How can I set this up? Right now, every 30 minutes or so I need to log
 back on with my password.

 The second question is how can I change the settings so the screen
 goes dark after a certain period of time? My sighted wife says the
 blue screen that comes on when Windows logs off so I need to enter a
 password again for access is the most annoying night lite she's ever
 run up against. Sometimes, I need to let the computer run some lengthy
 backups at night.

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Re: function keys not working properly

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And with HP laptops it can be changed in the BIOS but that requires
the assistance of someone who can see.

On 8/2/15, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello Barbra,
 Below are the only notes I have on the subject, but I do not know if they
 are relevant.
 Cheers Kevin.
 Multi-media Functions
 1. If the function keys on your laptop are assigned to multi-media first
 hold down the Function Key (The left-most key on the spacebar row) in
 order for the function key to work correctly.
 2. Every time I boot the Lenovo, I press fn+escape.  That enables the
 regular function keys till I shut it down.  note that it can beturned 
 off
 completely in the comes
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara
 Hansen
 via Jfw
 Sent: August-02-15 1:20 PM
 To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: function keys not working properly

 Hi JFW friends,



 I believe this topic has been discussed before, but, I can't seem to locate
 my notes about this.

 Now, when I press the jaws/insert key, and F12 for getting time, for
 example, JAWS is not speaking this. I thought that I had corrected this
 problem before, by going in to the settings menu, but can't seem to
 determine where to find these instructions.

 I have a Dell computer which does not have the applications key, but has
 the FN key.

 Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: Calling All Script Writers

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Also, if all you want to do is pass a key through you can simply
assign the PassKeyThrough script to the key in the .jkm for the
application. I'm not aware of a way to use the key manager to
accomplish that but it's not a hard thing to do.

I use the script editor, open the .jkm in question then add a line like:

Alt+DownArrow=PassKeyThrough

On 7/28/15, john.falter via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 HelloEd:
 Try this line:
 TypeKey (DownArrow)
 This compiled for me.
 You were missing the quotes around downarrow.

 On 7/27/2015 10:51 PM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:
 About half the time, when I need a script, what I really need is a
 macro.

 I am stumped with the simplest problem.

 I have an application which will work fine if only I pass the down
 arrow through to the application, not permitting JAWS to process
 it.  I know this works because I've done it manually.

 So, I want a simple script, which I've assigned to Windows down
 arrow.

 The first script command is the ByPass command, and I think that
 works.

 I'm then thinking I should send the TypeKey command followed with
 the parameter (DownArrow).

 So the line reads:

 TypeKey (DownArrow)

 Well, I get a compile error on the TypeKey command.

 I think I am overlooking something pretty simple.

 as the parameter.





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Re: How do I do a screen capture on a laptop?

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On a desktop PrintScreen is not invoked via a key combo, though.

On 7/23/15, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Actually, it probably would.  It works on a desktop.

 Ted

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:20 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Jason White
 Subject: Re: How do I do a screen capture on a laptop?

 Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 If you don't have a physical print screen key it is likely that you
 have one that can be activated by a Fn-key combo. Unfortunately which
 key you will need to hit in combination with Fn is model specific and
 you will probably need someone who can actually see the keyboard to
 tell you which one.

 Would key describe mode identify it? I suspect not, but it's worth
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Re: How do I do a screen capture on a laptop?

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If you don't have a physical print screen key it is likely that you
have one that can be activated by a Fn-key combo. Unfortunately which
key you will need to hit in combination with Fn is model specific and
you will probably need someone who can actually see the keyboard to
tell you which one.

You could try random keys and hope you find it but you might
accidentally mute your sound or disable the network or something else
undesirable if you go that route. And also unfortunately the
manufacturer is unlikely to have a text list available that would
simply tell you. Far easier to just to get some sighted assistance for
this one.

On 7/22/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I need to capture a webpage screenshot to send to a company about a problem
 I am having on their site. How do I do a screenshot on a laptop?

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Re: How do I do a screen capture on a laptop?

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As far as I know key describe mode is completely unaware of Fn modification.

On 7/22/15, Jason White via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 If you don't have a physical print screen key it is likely that you
 have one that can be activated by a Fn-key combo. Unfortunately which
 key you will need to hit in combination with Fn is model specific and
 you will probably need someone who can actually see the keyboard to
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 Would key describe mode identify it? I suspect not, but it's worth
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Re: just got a surface pro and I don't know how to remap the capsock key to insert

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Why would you perform such a remapping? Why not just use the jaws
laptop layout if that's what you are after.

On 7/20/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi List, Subject says it really. The surface pro keyboard doesn't have an
 insert key so I need to know how to remap insert to capslock I think? If
 this is not the case, please set me straight otherwise some instructions and
 guidance would be appreciated.
 Thanks,
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Re: How many characters can be in a folder or file name in Win 7?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

If talking about an NTFS file system each level is limited to 256
characters and the total is limited to 32768, including  drive
specifier and directory separators.

On 7/19/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm planning some hard drive folder / file management.

 How long can folder names and file names be in Windows 7? Are spaces
 permitted?

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Re: Soronel, Re: How many characters can be in a folder or file name in Win 7?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The 32768 is the total character limit.  As I said, if using NTFS
(which is the default for hard drives) each level of the file system
is limited to 256 characters but there is also a total limit of 32768
characters, that total limit includes any leading drive specifier and
all path separators (the c:\and the '\' characters).

That 32768 character limit also applies if you are doing something on
the network and there it includes machine and share names.

IEFoexample you might have a network path like:
\\my_computer\c_drive\users\myself\documents\some_file.doc

Such a path cannot exceed 32768 characters in total length. Honestly,
I would be very scared if you ever got anywhere close to that length.

On 7/19/15, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Soronel, please explain this 32768, what does it pertain to?


 On 7/19/2015 7:21 PM, Soronel Haetir via Jfw wrote:
 If talking about an NTFS file system each level is limited to 256
 characters and the total is limited to 32768, including  drive
 specifier and directory separators.

 On 7/19/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm planning some hard drive folder / file management.

 How long can folder names and file names be in Windows 7? Are spaces
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Re: Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

In my vkeyboard.jsm (latest jfw 16) file the tab is consistently used
to separate items in the lists. There are some items that show up
blank because characters are used that the font can't represent, but
those items are still separated by tabs.

On 7/19/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Soronel,

 Yes, but the script formatting in the description headers is bizarre. There
 are tabs in some places, but not in others. I've not yet figured out the
 purpose of the various tabs in the Acute Capitals section to correctly
 insert more characters. If I can't figure it out, then I'll need to just
 substitute my 6 special characters in place of 6 others already in the list.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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 From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 09:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm


 I'm pretty sure all that is needed is changing both the appropriate
 symbol and description lists in vkeyboard.jsm and then re-compiling
 vkeyboard.jss.

 I certainly don't see anything in vkeyboard.jss that looks like a static
 count.

 On 7/19/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello Soronel,

 I recall that you need to edit not only the list, but change some
 parameters
 to define a new list length? Do you perhaps still have the process?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 09:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws


 And if you are a masochist you can even expand the list.

 You have to edit VKeyboard.jsm and then recompile VKeyboard.jss but it
 is possible. I forget what symbol I added to an earlier jaws version
 but I don't do that any more.

 On 7/18/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Like Soronel and you, I find typing ANSI/ASCII equivalents frustrating.
 Northstar tells listers what to do when symbols aren't readily available
 from other sources. But the JAWS key+4 partial symbols list is a nice
 contribution from FS. There you can find, for example, em-dash and
 en-dash,
 ellipses, and numerous accented letters. Oh, and the pounds sterling
 sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B.
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:03 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi Adrian  Northstar,

 I'm not saying this to argue the ansi or ascii value of the sterling
 pounds

 number, but when I press the, NumPad 5 key, 3 times quickly on the
 sterling

 pounds symbol, it gives me a unicode number of 163.  But yet, if I turn
 the

 numpad on, hold down the Alt key, press 1, 6, 3, turn the numpad off, I
 get,

 ú.  doing what Norstar suggests  typing, 1, 5, 6 does give me the, £,
 symbol.  Whoops, I just tried typing, 0,1,6,3,  did get the, £, symbol.
 Damn, this ansi / ascii stuff can get confusing!  LOL  LOL
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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 From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Pound Sign in Jaws


 Actually, you can make JAWS verbalize pound sterling on an American
 keyboard. I copied the symbol into my JAWS dictionary and spelled out
 pound

 for my replacement word.

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 northstar1950--- via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:55 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 hmmm, turn numlock and hold your alt key down and
 on the numpad while holding the alt key down
 enter 156 and you when you release the alt key
 you should have the sterling pound sign like this: £

 of course, jaws will not say anything but the symbol is there.


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Hi
  Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to
 type a British Pound sign? Thanks for any help.

Marsha

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Re: Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I'm pretty sure all that is needed is changing both the appropriate
symbol and description lists in vkeyboard.jsm and then re-compiling
vkeyboard.jss.

I certainly don't see anything in vkeyboard.jss that looks like a static count.

On 7/19/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello Soronel,

 I recall that you need to edit not only the list, but change some parameters
 to define a new list length? Do you perhaps still have the process?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 09:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws


 And if you are a masochist you can even expand the list.

 You have to edit VKeyboard.jsm and then recompile VKeyboard.jss but it
 is possible. I forget what symbol I added to an earlier jaws version
 but I don't do that any more.

 On 7/18/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Like Soronel and you, I find typing ANSI/ASCII equivalents frustrating.
 Northstar tells listers what to do when symbols aren't readily available
 from other sources. But the JAWS key+4 partial symbols list is a nice
 contribution from FS. There you can find, for example, em-dash and
 en-dash,
 ellipses, and numerous accented letters. Oh, and the pounds sterling sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B.
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:03 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi Adrian  Northstar,

 I'm not saying this to argue the ansi or ascii value of the sterling
 pounds

 number, but when I press the, NumPad 5 key, 3 times quickly on the
 sterling

 pounds symbol, it gives me a unicode number of 163.  But yet, if I turn
 the

 numpad on, hold down the Alt key, press 1, 6, 3, turn the numpad off, I
 get,

 ú.  doing what Norstar suggests  typing, 1, 5, 6 does give me the, £,
 symbol.  Whoops, I just tried typing, 0,1,6,3,  did get the, £, symbol.
 Damn, this ansi / ascii stuff can get confusing!  LOL  LOL
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 - Original Message -
 From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Pound Sign in Jaws


 Actually, you can make JAWS verbalize pound sterling on an American
 keyboard. I copied the symbol into my JAWS dictionary and spelled out
 pound

 for my replacement word.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
 northstar1950--- via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:55 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 hmmm, turn numlock and hold your alt key down and
 on the numpad while holding the alt key down
 enter 156 and you when you release the alt key
 you should have the sterling pound sign like this: £

 of course, jaws will not say anything but the symbol is there.


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Hi
  Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to
 type a British Pound sign? Thanks for any help.

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Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

And if you are a masochist you can even expand the list.

You have to edit VKeyboard.jsm and then recompile VKeyboard.jss but it
is possible. I forget what symbol I added to an earlier jaws version
but I don't do that any more.

On 7/18/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Like Soronel and you, I find typing ANSI/ASCII equivalents frustrating.
 Northstar tells listers what to do when symbols aren't readily available
 from other sources. But the JAWS key+4 partial symbols list is a nice
 contribution from FS. There you can find, for example, em-dash and en-dash,
 ellipses, and numerous accented letters. Oh, and the pounds sterling sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via
 Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:03 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi Adrian  Northstar,

 I'm not saying this to argue the ansi or ascii value of the sterling pounds

 number, but when I press the, NumPad 5 key, 3 times quickly on the sterling

 pounds symbol, it gives me a unicode number of 163.  But yet, if I turn the

 numpad on, hold down the Alt key, press 1, 6, 3, turn the numpad off, I get,

 ú.  doing what Norstar suggests  typing, 1, 5, 6 does give me the, £,
 symbol.  Whoops, I just tried typing, 0,1,6,3,  did get the, £, symbol.
 Damn, this ansi / ascii stuff can get confusing!  LOL  LOL
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 - Original Message -
 From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Pound Sign in Jaws


 Actually, you can make JAWS verbalize pound sterling on an American
 keyboard. I copied the symbol into my JAWS dictionary and spelled out pound

 for my replacement word.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
 northstar1950--- via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:55 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 hmmm, turn numlock and hold your alt key down and
 on the numpad while holding the alt key down
 enter 156 and you when you release the alt key
 you should have the sterling pound sign like this: £

 of course, jaws will not say anything but the symbol is there.


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Hi
  Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to
 type a British Pound sign? Thanks for any help.

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Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I was assuming she was talking about the currency symbol, which is
different than the hash mark produced by shift+3 on a US keyboard.

On 7/18/15, Gennie Eachus via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Shift-3. It is called the number sign in the u. S., but I understand that
 it
 also works for the pound sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marsha via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:01 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Marsha
 Subject: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi
   Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to type a British Pound sign?
 Thanks for any help.

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Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The easy way using jaws is to use the jaws+4 dialog, the pound symbol
is on that list.

There is a way using the numpad but it's a pain because you have to
know the character number for the symbol you want.

On 7/18/15, Marsha via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi
   Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to type a British Pound sign?
 Thanks for any help.

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Re: deleting all emails in gmail

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

If you are willing to use the standard layout rather than the basic
html I know there is a way to select all messages. Whether that is a
button or another checkbox I don't recall, but I do know the way is
there.

On 7/15/15, Bill White via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:


 How to create a filter in your gmail account which will delete large groups

 of messages in your inbox.





 1.  Sign into your gmail account using

 your Internet browser.



 2.  Press Insert+F7 to open the links list.



 3.  Press the letter S until you hear Settings, then press Enter.



 4.  Press Insert+F7 to open the links list again.



 5.  Press the letter C until you hear Create a filter, and then press
 Enter.



 6.  Press the letter F until you hear From: Edit.



 7.  In this field, type *@*



 8.  Press Tab until you hear: Next Step Button and press the space bar.



 9.  When the next page loads, press the letter X until you hear: Delete it
 Check Box Not Checked. Press the space bar to check this item.



 10. Press the letter X until you hear: Also apply filter to 20 conversations

 below Check Box Not Checked, and press the space bar to check this item.



 11. Press Tab until you hear: Create Filter Button, and press the space bar.

 Your filter should now be created.



 12. After your filter is created, press Insert+F7, then the letter I to be
 taken back to your inbox where you will see all of your messages still there

 in your inbox.



 13. Close Internet Explorer to exit out of the gmail web page.



 14. Sign into your gmail account using Internet Explorer again.



 15. Go to your inbox, where you should see that it is empty.



 16. Press Insert+F7 to open the links list.



 17. Press the letter S until you hear Settings, then press Enter.



 18. Press F7 for the links list, then press the letter F until you hear
 Filters, and press Enter.



 19. Press the letter B until you hear: Delete It Button. Press the space
 bar.



 20. When the page loads, you will hear JAWS say:   Your filter has been
 deleted.



 21. Be sure to do steps 14 through 18, or all of your e-mail will continue
 to be deleted and sent to the trash.



 22. You may also give a date for deleting mail as in the folloing example:

 In the Has the words field, type before:2010/01/01. This will delete all
 mail received before this date.



 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: dennis via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:39 PM
 Subject: deleting all emails in gmail


 can somebody help me with this. i did this several months ago but i cant
 for the life of me remember how to do it. i go to gmail and my all mail
 page. there is no way to select all the messages at once. btw i have tried

 this in original html and standered as well. any help is appriciated.

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Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Neither the regular or accessible kindle app REALLY works with jaws,
what THE accessible  version does is detect that an accessibility
program is running (at least jaws, NVDA and window eyes are detected,
don't know about others) and then enables self-voicing. My chief
complaint is that the choice of voices is very limited and of even
lower quality than my book port.

If I have the choice between kindle, PDF and text kindle is always my
last choice of formats.

On 7/7/15, Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 No.  I just went straight to the regular Amazon page and to the book I
 wanted to download.  Then I just downloaded the regular ap.  If there is a
 thing with a disability plug-in, then I will just remove what I downloaded
 this morning.

 Rick Miller


 -Original Message-
From: Gary King via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Jul 7, 2015 7:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

Rick,
Did you get the Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin?  If you didn't
download that version, go to

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280

and read the information on that page.  There is also a download link.

With this version of the program, JAWS reads the menus, while the built-in

speech that comes with the program reads the text of the book.

If you are reading a novel or other book that you can read straight
 through,
the program works fairly well.  However, if you need to go to different
parts of a book or search for specific content, forget it.  Navigation is
limited, and JAWS can't read the text in the book directly.  The JAWS OCR
feature can give you access to the text of each page, but multiple columns

cause reading difficulties.

If you have an iPhone or iPad, the iOS app works much better for reading
EBooks.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message -
From: Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Rick Miller m...@earthlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:38 AM
Subject: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?


 Dear Listers:



 I am considering trying to purchase an e-book in Kindle edition from
 Amazon.
 I have downloaded the Kindle ap, but first I need to sign in and
 register
 it.  But first, I need to know from somebody if it has ever worked well
 with
 JAWS.  I am using JAWS 16.  Have any of you out there been able to use
 the
 Kindle ap and read an e-book using JAWS?  If so, how well has JAWS
 worked
 for you.  Would any of you recommend using Kindle with JAWS?



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Re: Copying from SD card to PC.

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

As long as you have an SD slot available copying to or from an SD card
is just like any other file copy, the card shows up as a drive (just
like USB drives do).


I suggest that you use the application menu in explorer to perform the
copy/cut and the paste operations rather than trying to use jaws' drag
and drop capability.

On 7/7/15, Shane Clark via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Its been so long since I've done this, could someone please explain the
 steps in doing this? I'm sure its as simple as I remember, I just need a
 refresher as to where to go for what, if that makes sense. I'll be using an
 HP computer with Vista and Jaws 11.
 Thanks in advance, Shane.Hi listers,
 So I need to copy some music and other stuff from my SD card to my PC, and
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Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

My experience with the accessible kindle app isn't quite that bad but
still kindle is far from my first choice of format.

But then I have not tried it for anything reference or learning type,
only fiction so finding an exact spot hasn't been relevant to me.

Honestly my first choice is plain text, then RTF, followed by doc and
PDF. I have not tried epub, mostly because I have been unable to find
an epub reader that sounds at all accessible (my book port is supposed
to be able to deal with epub but I have not tried it).

Plain text does have the disadvantage of not being able to deal with
math type stuff very well, for that sort of thing both RTF and doc are
excellent. But I also understand why publishers don't make material
available in those formats, as they provide no real DRM protection.

On 7/7/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Rick,

 I  tried it several months ago with a book I needed to read on short notice.
 I remember finding it extremely frustrating. As I recall, I couldn't stop
 and have it start at the same point, but perhaps there's a bookmark function
 that I somehow missed. As I recall, I also couldn't conveniently go back to
 re-read a sentence or paragraph. As Soronel indicates, the voice was
 horrible to listen to and hard to comprehend. In the end, I bought the
 paperback and performed OCR on it so that I could read it with JAWS.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:51 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Rick Miller
 Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

 Have you ever tried to read an actual e-book from Amazon using the Kindle
 ap?  If so, were you able to do it?

 Rick Miller




 -Original Message-
From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Jul 7, 2015 9:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

Neither the regular or accessible kindle app REALLY works with jaws,
what THE accessible  version does is detect that an accessibility
program is running (at least jaws, NVDA and window eyes are detected,
don't know about others) and then enables self-voicing. My chief
complaint is that the choice of voices is very limited and of even
lower quality than my book port.

If I have the choice between kindle, PDF and text kindle is always my
last choice of formats.

On 7/7/15, Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 No.  I just went straight to the regular Amazon page and to the book I
 wanted to download.  Then I just downloaded the regular ap.  If there is
 a
 thing with a disability plug-in, then I will just remove what I
 downloaded
 this morning.

 Rick Miller


 -Original Message-
From: Gary King via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Jul 7, 2015 7:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

Rick,
Did you get the Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin?  If you didn't
download that version, go to

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280

and read the information on that page.  There is also a download link.

With this version of the program, JAWS reads the menus, while the
 built-in

speech that comes with the program reads the text of the book.

If you are reading a novel or other book that you can read straight
 through,
the program works fairly well.  However, if you need to go to different
parts of a book or search for specific content, forget it.  Navigation
 is
limited, and JAWS can't read the text in the book directly.  The JAWS
 OCR
feature can give you access to the text of each page, but multiple
 columns

cause reading difficulties.

If you have an iPhone or iPad, the iOS app works much better for reading
EBooks.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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From: Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Rick Miller m...@earthlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:38 AM
Subject: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?


 Dear Listers:



 I am considering trying to purchase an e-book in Kindle edition from
 Amazon.
 I have downloaded the Kindle ap, but first I need to sign in and
 register
 it.  But first, I need to know from somebody if it has ever worked
 well
 with
 JAWS.  I am using JAWS 16.  Have any of you out there been able to use
 the
 Kindle ap and read an e-book using JAWS?  If so, how well has JAWS
 worked
 for you.  Would any of you recommend using Kindle with JAWS?



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Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

As long as I can choose the voice and speed I would say I generally
prefer synthesized narration over a human as it is. There are a few
exceptionally good human narrators for which this is not true but they
are a definite minority. And recorded audio is harder to manipulate to
the fast rate I like than synthesizers (I have been told by several
people listening to stuff at the rate I use that it simply sounds like
a buzz to them).


On 7/7/15, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 You know, I wonder if the time is going to come that our talking books are
 mostly done in synthesized formatting. I hope not, but could get used to it

 if I had to do so.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry
 Ford.

 Carolyn

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 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?


 My experience was quite the opposite actually. Now, let me say that for me

 the male voice was better than the female voice in the Kindle for PC with

 Accessibility plugin software, and as much as I hate slow speech, I found

 the slower speed less jarring than the faster rate. The male voice is Tom

 from the Realspeak set of voices, so it's like reading a novel being read

 by the guy who reads bulletins on your weather radio. Certainly it's not
 as good as a human narrator. Having said that, I have read entire books
 that way, and particularly with nonfiction, I didn't find it too bad.
 There are keystrokes (I can't name them right now because Kindle for PC is

 on my laptop and I am not) to allow you to go back to the previous page,
 and I think paragraph by paragraph. Also, when I close the book and reopen

 it, I'm at least at the top of the page where I left off. It wouldn't be
 my first choice for reading a book, but I haven't given up on it either,
 and I do love that I can buy a book like my sighted friends and start
 reading it in two seconds. I like it well enough to use it, but it's not
 my favorite way to read.

 Brad
 On 7/7/2015 5:13 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
 Rick,

 I  tried it several months ago with a book I needed to read on short
 notice. I remember finding it extremely frustrating. As I recall, I
 couldn't stop and have it start at the same point, but perhaps there's a

 bookmark function that I somehow missed. As I recall, I also couldn't
 conveniently go back to re-read a sentence or paragraph. As Soronel
 indicates, the voice was horrible to listen to and hard to comprehend. In

 the end, I bought the paperback and performed OCR on it so that I could
 read it with JAWS.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rick Miller

 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:51 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; The Jaws for Windows support
 list.
 Cc: Rick Miller
 Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

 Have you ever tried to read an actual e-book from Amazon using the Kindle

 ap?  If so, were you able to do it?

 Rick Miller




 -Original Message-
 From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Sent: Jul 7, 2015 9:56 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

 Neither the regular or accessible kindle app REALLY works with jaws,
 what THE accessible  version does is detect that an accessibility
 program is running (at least jaws, NVDA and window eyes are detected,
 don't know about others) and then enables self-voicing. My chief
 complaint is that the choice of voices is very limited and of even
 lower quality than my book port.

 If I have the choice between kindle, PDF and text kindle is always my
 last choice of formats.

 On 7/7/15, Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 No.  I just went straight to the regular Amazon page and to the book I
 wanted to download.  Then I just downloaded the regular ap.  If there
 is a
 thing with a disability plug-in, then I will just remove what I
 downloaded
 this morning.

 Rick Miller


 -Original Message-
 From: Gary King via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Sent: Jul 7, 2015 7:29 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?

 Rick,
 Did you get the Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin?  If you
 didn't
 download that version, go to

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280

 and read the information on that page.  There is also a download
 link.

 With this version of the program, JAWS reads the menus, while the
 built-in

 speech that comes with the program reads the text of the book.

 If you are reading a novel or other book that you can read straight
 through,
 the program works fairly

Re: using 2 sound cardss

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

No, drivers should not get uninstalled without specific user action.
All that might happen is that the operating system will be set to use
the new sound card as the default audio output but the old one should
still be there.

For example, when I was heavily into using virtual machines I
sometimes had two or even three USB headsets to the box, with one
dedicated to main system sound and the others each carrying audio for
a specific virtual machine. This in addition to speakers plugged in to
the on-board audio that I used for music. and the like.

On 7/6/15, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 oh so it's the onboard sound card that needs to be reenabled after
 an internal sound card is installed, right? but doesn't the driver for
 the onboard sound card get automatically uninstalled when the driver for
 an internal sound card gets installed?


 On 7/5/2015 5:46 PM, Soronel Haetir via Jfw wrote:
 Umm, the bios shouldn't have anything to do with an expansion card
 being enabled or not. It may well be that the on-board audio can be
 disabled in the bios and for what you want yes it would need to be
 enabled. I have done the sort of setup you are talking about (using
 on-board audio and a USB headset rather than on-board and expansion
 card) and it works fine. Jaws is limited to using just one output for
 all purposes but that shouldn't matter for what you are talking about.

 If both were enabled before the re-install I don't see why the repair
 shop would have changed that at all.

 On 7/5/15, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I recently had Windows 7 reinstalled because of some issues. and I want
 to have JAWS talk thru the motherboard sound card while playing
 music/podcasts thru the sound blaster that's set as the default sound
 card. I realize the drivers need to be installed, but doesn't both sound
 cards have to be enabled in the BIOS?

 how do I convince the repair shop tech that it is possible to have both
 sound cards enabled in the BIOS, what do I tell them?

 I know how to switch JAWS to use the onboard sound card.

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Re: JAWS Developer Tools or Developer Resources for C# WFP XAML

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I know that http://msdn.microsoft.com/library has a great deal of
information on this unfortunately I am so tired today that I can't
really think of where on the site you need to look and it is simply
huge.

I do know there is
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc165614%28v=vs.100%29.aspx

Also, if you are willing to install or already have the windows SDK it
includes a tool called Visual UIA Verifier that does an excellent job
of letting you know what information your program actually exposes to
accessibility programs like jaws. In most cases simply making the
information is enough and jaws will do the rest from there.

On 7/6/15, Micciolo, Matthew via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am in search of more resources for application developers.

 I am currently helping with accessibility for an application my team is
 using.

 The application is an excel plugin using C# and WFP XAML for the UI.

 I haven't been able to find many resources on making applications JAWS
 compliant.

 Under the WFP XAML API I have been mostly interfacing with the
 AutomationProperties class to make different objects readable, etc.

 For the most part it has been working well.

 Does anyone have any documentation or links to any good information?

 Thanks,

 Matt

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Re: headset and microphone

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I'm somewhat surprised the adapter wouldn't have a pass-through USB
port so you wouldn't even lose that.

On 7/5/15, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Good to know about that one.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry
 Ford.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -
 From: David Moore via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: David Moore jesusloves1...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 4:18 PM
 Subject: RE: headset and microphone


 Hello.  I have a laptop that did not have Bluetooth capability built
 into it.  All I did was to buy an USB blue tooth adapter that plugs
 into the USB port.  From then on, I easily could pair my blue tooth
 headphones to the computer and it works great!  You end up losing that
 USB port, because the adapter must stay there in order for the
 computer to have that blue tooth capability.  The adapter only costs
 $20.00 at Best Buy.

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Re: Change F Keys

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

You've actually received two answers to this query. One, you may need
sighted assistance to change a bios setting, the second is that there
may be a utility available from your laptop manufacturer that will
change this behavior.

On 7/5/15, John Sherrer via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Twice I was not able to change the subject, but I think it is okay now.
 Sorry about not changing the subject.

 Hi Folks
 My laptop came with different uses for the F keys.  How can I get them to
 use the JAWS Commands?
 John Sherrer


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Re: What is the JAWS way to jump over the junk at the top of a websites pages?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Or headings, I find many sites where knowing some sequence of heading
levels will get me to the actual content with just a couple jumps.

On 7/4/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I'm afraid there is no single method that works for all websites, but
 consider trying one or more of the following:
 1.  When you locate the main content, create a JAWS placemarker to mark the
 spot.  Be sure to apply it to the entire domain and to uncheck the anchor
 to text checkbox if it is checked.
 2.  Use Flexible Web to create a rule telling JAWS where to start reading.
 Make sure it applies to the entire website.
 3.  See if you can quickly skip past all the navigation links by repeatedly
 pressing the letter n, which takes you to the next block of non-link text.
 4.  If none of these options prove practical for you, perhaps you can use
 other HTML elements to find the main content, such as ARIA regions, lists,
 form controls, frames, or buttons.

 I hope this helps.

 Michal

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
 Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 5:09 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Subject: What is the JAWS way to jump over the junk at the top of a
 websites
 pages?

 Hi,

 I'm using a site that has about 25 lines of the same gobbeldy gook at the
 top of each of the pages throughout it's site.

 What is the way to set it up so JAWS skips all that stuff when I go to any
 page on their site? They have several headings and search fields  within
 those first 25 lines.

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Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's New In This Build

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

It switches voices on me when it does the windows user confirmation
bit, but I expect that.  Once I hit 'yes' it goes back to my regular
profile.

On 7/2/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I never encountered this issue.  I haven't heard about anyone else having
 it
 either, so I have no clue what might be causing it.  The only possible
 solutions I can think of at this time are running a JAWS repair or, better
 yet, uninstalling JAWS (along with all shared components) and reinstalling
 from scratch.  Good luck!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of cecropia64---
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 2:58 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: cecropi...@att.net
 Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's New
 In This Build

 No, I'm talking about when I install a new Jaws update.  It switches over
 to
 the voice I have on my computer instead of using the eloquence voice I use
 for Jaws.  It''s real weird considering it didn't happen when I first
 started getting updates for Jaws.

 On 7/2/2015 3:19 PM, Kimsan via Jfw wrote:
 I should try out skype and see if I can duplicate your experience.  As
 far as stew is concerned, is he talking aboot when he downloads stuff
 in genteral when the windows voice comes on?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ward
 Dudley via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 8:52 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ward Dudley
 Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links +
 What's New In This Build

 Skype is sluggy and you cannot read what someone wrote you using the
 JAWS Cursor.  JAWS 15 is faster using my Windows 7 machine.  Other
 than that it seems to be working good.

 Ward

 On 7/2/2015 9:18 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw wrote:
 Jaws continues on mine, Windows 7  64 bit Cheers Kevin.

 -Original Message- From: cecropia64--- via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:31 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: cecropi...@att.net
 Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links +
 What's New InThis Build

 Just installed it and no problems here.  But I don't seem to have any
 problems with any of the new updates.  The only thing I don't really
 like is that when the download starts, JAWS eloquence stops and the
 Windows voice kicks in.  It never was like this before. Anyone have
 an idea as to why this happens?

 stew

 On 7/2/2015 5:44 AM, Melissa Stott via Jfw wrote:
 No problems so far.

 -Original Message- From: Kimsan via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:08 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Kimsan
 Subject: RE: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released,Download Links +
 What's New In This Build

 Has anyone experience jaws pausing with this latest update?

 I have not thank god.

 Also, so it works with windows 10?

 I'm going to take things slow this time and not jump the gun, and
 will only upgrade if/when I have too.

 And yes, I am aware the upgrade is free for the first year, so I
 guess I have to upgrae after a year lol.
 Take care jaws users!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
 Michael B. via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:40 PM
 To: JFW List
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's
 New In This Build

 Hi All,

 Below are the download links  what's new:

 32 Bit:

 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350enu-x86.e
 x
 e

 64 Bit:

 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350enu-x64.e
 x
 e

 What's New:

 Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4350 (July 2015)

 The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16
 June
 2015
 release and the July 2015 update.

 list of 4 items
 . Fixed an issue in Windows Live Mail that was introduced in the
 June update where JAWS was speaking information unrelated to the
 email you were composing or reading.
 . JAWS will install and run correctly with Windows 10 releases. JAWS
 16.0.4350 is the first build targeted for use in Windows 10. Anyone
 planning on updating must first update to this build or higher.
 . Resolved an issue where Research It was not yielding any results
 in the Wikipedia lookup source.
 . Resolved a reported  issue related to the JAWS Function:
 GetAccessibleSelectionFromContext.
 list end

 HTH
 Take care.
 Mike
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Re: headset and microphone

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

For the OP bring up the jaws menu (jaws+j) then look under the
Utilites menu and then sound cards.  then shit enter on the headset
entry.

On 7/1/15, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Would the Blue Tooth headset that I have for my iPhone work with my
 computer - maybe not this older one, but a new one early next year?

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry
 Ford.

 Carolyn

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 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: David Hardingham jarhea...@roadrunner.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:37 PM
 Subject: headset and microphone


 Hi all,

 I recently bought a bose blue tooth speaker that I could not make work.

 Since then I removed the program and now cannot use my shedset and
 microphone.

 I hear a sound when I plug in the usb connection and the first time I
 tried to use the headset I heard jaws say something about software being
 installed sucessfully.

 However neither my headset nor microphone will work.

 I use jfw 14and have windows media along with winamp.

 Thanks,

 DavidHOW
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Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release

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Hi,

I've noticed lately that most reboots after installation take
significantly longer than I would expect (even taking into account
that reboot after install won't have the normal decreased boot time
associated with win8.1). Given how simply turning off a booting system
is one of the few remaining ways to mess up an operating system
install I would suggest waiting much longer than five minutes before
assuming that the reboot is hung. My jaws upgrade took close to that
today and I've had a few MS updates take more than 20 minutes after
reboot, but the point is that the system did eventually come around.

On 6/22/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
 my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
 required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
 something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
 the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
 life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought
 back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to
 have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
 case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Re: getting Skype off of task bar

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The thing about doing it by changing the compatibility is that skype
can still be running, it will be in the system tray but not on the
task bar. I find the task bar icon annoying.

On 6/22/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 As I noted previously, Skype can also be closed from the Task Bar (without
 worrying about System Tray icons at all).  On a Windows 8 machine, the task
 bar can be accessed by pressing Windows T.  You can then navigate to the
 Skype icon using the left or right arrow keys.  When you land on Skype,
 press the application key or right mouse button, and choose quit Skype
 from the context menu.  You will be presented with a dialogue box asking
 you
 if you are sure you wish to close the program.  Activate the quit button,
 and Skype should be properly closed.  I hope this helps.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:22 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: getting Skype off of task bar

 Daniel,

 It sounds as though your system tray is set to hide some icons. Below are
 instructions for how to reveal them in Windows 7. I believe they originated
 with David Bailes, and I added notes from my own experience when I went
 through the process some years ago.

 Open start menu properties with Win key, escape, alt-enter.

 In the first dialog, tab to and press the Notification Area Customize
 button. I found that the list of options appears when I shit-tabbed once.

 The first item there is always turn on all icons. I pressed the spacebar on
 it, then tabbed to Okay.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride
 via Jfw
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:10 PM
 To: Jaws User Group
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: getting Skype off of task bar

 Earlier today someone posted instructions for getting Skype off of your
 task
 bar completely.

 The first instruction was to access Select A System Tray Icon and arrow
 down
 to Skype.

 I tried this. After entering Insert F11, I have only 4 choices to arrow to.
 They are Get Windows 10, Solve PC Issues, Network 5 Internet Access and
 Speakers.

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Re: jaws and rdp questions

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I think there is some way to alt-tab in the remote session with the
client in windowed mode but I am not certain of that.  If you do a
search for RDP hotkeys you should find a page that lists what is
available.

On 6/9/15, Mike and Jenna via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 So If I understand this right once it is in window mode there are cirtain
 commands that will not work in the rdp session right?

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 Haetir
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:30 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: jaws and rdp questions

 IIRC you use ctrl+alt+pause (the rightmost key in the group of three above
 the group of six on a standard PC keyboard).  That will put the RDP into
 windowed mode and at that point alt+tab will switch between programs
 running
 on the local system.



 On 6/8/15, Mike and Jenna via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My wife is using rdp at work and needs to switch back and forth from
 the rdp session to her desktop to see her outlook as part of her job.
 She is using remote desktop to connect to their remote computer as
 there a way for her to switch between her desktop and the remote
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Re: jaws and rdp questions

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Dave,

Yes, it operates as a toggle.


On 6/9/15, Dave Durber via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Do you use ctrl+alt+pause to switch back to Remote Desktop, thus making the

 command a toggle command.
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: jaws and rdp questions


 IIRC you use ctrl+alt+pause (the rightmost key in the group of three
 above the group of six on a standard PC keyboard).  That will put the
 RDP into windowed mode and at that point alt+tab will switch between
 programs running on the local system.



 On 6/8/15, Mike and Jenna via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My wife is using rdp at work and needs to switch back and forth from the
 rdp
 session to her desktop to see her outlook as part of her job. She is
 using
 remote desktop to connect to their remote computer as there a way for
 her
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Re: jaws and rdp questions

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IIRC you use ctrl+alt+pause (the rightmost key in the group of three
above the group of six on a standard PC keyboard).  That will put the
RDP into windowed mode and at that point alt+tab will switch between
programs running on the local system.



On 6/8/15, Mike and Jenna via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My wife is using rdp at work and needs to switch back and forth from the
 rdp
 session to her desktop to see her outlook as part of her job. She is using
 remote desktop to connect to their remote computer as there a way for her
 to
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Re: new laptop user with jaws 16

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Actually I was not aware of that one. Chagrin.

Still not as nice as a real context menu key. Probably not even as
nice as my remapped print screen since it requires hitting two keys.
Prior to this laptop I had not even encountered a laptop with an
actual print screen key, it has always been an Fn key combo before
(the print screen key takes the place of a second ins key next to the
del in the row that makes up the normal six-pack).

What is even more frustrating is that this laptop is slightly wider
than my prior one so the space is there, but the keyboard is smashed
into a narrower area. It simply has pretty large margins to the left
and right of the keyboard.

On 6/4/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Soronel, I'm sure you know this, but shift-F10 does the same thing, just for
 the record.

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 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:35 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Soronel Haetir
 Subject: Re: new laptop user with jaws 16

 The one thing I find annoying with my HP laptop is that it does not
 have the context menu key. I have used a utility to remap the print
 screen key to perform that function but it is certainly not as
 convenient as a proper context menu key.  My guess, however, is that a
 windows 7 laptop is probably old enough that it would have this key,
 so long as you are talking about a full size laptop and not a compact
 model.

 On 6/4/15, Dennis via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 hi list. i just ordered a hp laptop. its a windows 7 64 professional. as
 i said in the subject i'm also using jaws 16. i would just like to know
 the best way of learning the laptop after only using a desktop up until
 now. thanks for any sugestions.

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Re: new laptop user with jaws 16

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The one thing I find annoying with my HP laptop is that it does not
have the context menu key. I have used a utility to remap the print
screen key to perform that function but it is certainly not as
convenient as a proper context menu key.  My guess, however, is that a
windows 7 laptop is probably old enough that it would have this key,
so long as you are talking about a full size laptop and not a compact
model.

On 6/4/15, Dennis via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 hi list. i just ordered a hp laptop. its a windows 7 64 professional. as
 i said in the subject i'm also using jaws 16. i would just like to know
 the best way of learning the laptop after only using a desktop up until
 now. thanks for any sugestions.

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Re: JAWS and browser pdf plug-ins

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I don't even bother trying to view PDF in the browser, even when I
could see (prior to 2007 or so) it simply created so many problems
that I just used acrobat reader instead.

On 6/1/15, Strange, Lainie via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello - I posted this question on the WebAIM listserv but just want to get
 confirmation from the JAWS user community. I have been researching an issue
 over the last week reported by a regular JAWS users that when they access
 pdf files on a site I maintain, that the pdf file 'hangs' or gives a
 'document loading' message and never reads the document. We have discovered
 that either hitting the back button and forward button or hitting insert +
 escape to refresh the virtual buffer clears the problem and reads the pdf
 file normally.  I had another fellow JAWS user test various pdf files on
 different sites I maintain, resulting in the same problem. I even had both
 users set IE preferences to retrieve new copies of files every time they
 visit the page, but still same results.

 Both users were using IE 11 to open the pdf documents, using varied version
 of JAWS (14 and 16). I did some research and did discover that enabling fast
 web view on a pdf file can create problems for JAWS but even after disabling
 this, the problem persisted. The document was properly tagged, not protected
 and these were not large files (most under 50kb)

 Our conclusion was that the source of the problem was somewhere between the
 pdf plug-in and JAWS. What are others' experiences? I do know from
 experience that I have had other problems with pdf plug-ins across many
 browsers even outside of screen readers. Any thoughts or advice greatly
 appreciated.

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Re: Multiple Instances of JAWS

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Hi,

Windows simply does not remove the tray icon when a program dies, it
is up to the program itself to remove the icon.

If you click on the icon for a program that is no longer running then
windows will remove it, but not otherwise.

On 5/26/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 It may very well be senility creeping in, but I thought, but
 cannot now find, the explanation for why, on some occasions,
 multiple instances of JAWS will appear in the System Tray or on
 the Task Bar.

 I cannot identify any specific pernicious effects, and when I
 close JAWS, all instances of JAWS disappear.

 Still, having the computer confused into thinking there are
 multiple instances of JAWS cannot be a good thing.

 Does anyone know what this is all about, or can you point me in
 the right direction in the archives for this list, assuming I
 didn't just dream up prior discussion of this issue?



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Re: hypervisor

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

My experience is that the change must be made in the BIOS and that
requires someone who can see.

On 5/23/15, Marvin Hunkin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi.

 Tried to start my hyper v  machine and have the virtual switch enabled.

 Is there any way to enable to the hyper visor without sighted help.

 How to do this.

 Thanks.

 For my Toshiba satellite pro c-50-a.

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Re: JAWS cursor inconsistancy between PC and Jaws whithin MS word.

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

You are likely running into an inconsistency based on the zoom level.
The PC cursor mode is going to report the font size that is selected
for the passage (what would be used if the document were printed)
while the jaws cursor mode is going to report the font size that was
actually used for the screen font. On top of the zoom level the screen
font is also subject to adjustment based on your system's DPI scaling.

On 5/19/15, john.falter via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 While trying to proofread a book for BookShare.com, the number of lines
 per page looks wrong.
 So I used the PC cursor to find font size 12. The Jaws cursor reports
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Re: thoughts on latest jaws update

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The login screen bit is not a jaws problem in any manner, it is simply
the way recent versions of windows behave. Even when a system only has
one user account you still have to activate the password field for
that one user before entering it.


On 5/17/15, Peter op t Hof via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Ok!

 To add some problems i notice that:

 *Status of change in country-settings is read partially
 *Loginscreen sometimes is not read, you have to press Enter
 intuitivly to open the passwordbox
 *Slightly better support in reading text in Thunderbird but less
 betterr then 2 updates ago


 I am working on Windows 8 with enough memory so that is not the problem.

 Dutch greetings,

 Peeter.


 Melissa STOTT via Jfw schreef op 18-5-2015 om 03:25:
 So far, I have had no issues with the latest update. I am using windows 7.
 When Jaws 16 was first released, it would freeze up on me, but it hasn't
 done that in a while. The only problem I can see right now, is that the
 MLB scores in research it is still broken.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 17, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I have not had that happen as of yet. However, I have been required
 quite
 often to hit insert escape in order to refresh the screen on web sites
 such
 as Amazon because buttons or other options are not showing themselves.
 In
 fact last night I spent more than fifteen minutes in my checkout
 procedure
 trying to switch from my default credit card to a different debit card
 on
 amazon. The Change option would not show itself no way no how. Finally
 after
 a great deal of frustration the insert escape made the change option
 available and I was able to choose another card and finish checking out.
 What should have taken two minutes took almost twenty. This is nothing
 new
 with Jaws and amazon. And I don't know if it is a Jaws thing, an amazon
 thing, a coding thing, or what.

 Because it occurs even if Magic is running.

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Re: How can I find Add/Remove Programs in the Windows 7 Control Panel?

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I just type add re in the search box and it pops up after a couple seconds

On 5/17/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,

 How do I find the Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel in Windows 7?

 I get to the Control Panel OK, but then I'm stumped.

 There's a  Programs and Features link, but JAWS stops reading in the
 following Window after announcing the first program.

 I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question, but I'm stumped.

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Re: Inquiry about the use of Jaws with Oracle database

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Given that everything oracle related is java based I would suspect
that it is fairly spotty, but it has been far longer than since I have
gone blind that I have done anything with Oracle products so can't
really say  from personal experience. Even when I could see I was not
nearly as impressed with the Oracle management tools as the equivalent
from MS.

I do know that oracle has a command line tool similar to MS' sqlcmd
and I would expect that to work fine with jaws.

On 5/15/15, Carlos Fischer via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Dear list members,
 Can anybody assist me with the inquiry I received about the compatibility
 of
 Jaws with Oracle ?
 Probably I should be more specific, as I suppose that just by mentioning
 Oracle is too ambiguous. With your input, I can then better approach the
 user´s question.
 Thanks very much in advance for your help.
 Kind regards
 Carlos Fischer
 Buenos Aires
 Argentina

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Re: usb soundcard/installing software

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I would suggest you just buy a set of usb headphones, I have yet to
encounter such a set that requires any drivers that windows does not
already have.

On 5/12/15, Kristoffer Gustafsson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I'm thinking about buying an usb soundcard some day.
 What is the best one to use with jaws?
 I want to be able to install the drivers with jaws.
 It wouldn't be fun if I buy a card, and then I can't get it to work.
 I've looked at creative and asus.
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Re: Changing languages on the fly

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The jaws language auto-detect works fine if the document is formatted
to say what language any given section is in, although I would
hesitate to call that auto detect, instead I would call it language
auto-manage or some other term.  As far as I know this really only
works in formats like MS word, html or pdf.

I would be very surprised if any program could do a good job actually
auto detecting the language of an arbitrary piece of text (that is the
bare text without any metadata).  Even in Unicode there are simply too
many ranges that are shared by multiple scripts and of course many
scripts are not at all language specific.

On 5/8/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Gerardo,

 If you don't get a response, try posting your inquiry to the JAWS scripts
 listserv; you will obviously need to join the list first if you are not on
 it already.

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 Corripio via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 10:47 AM
 To: Email Jaws for Windows support List
 Cc: Gerardo Corripio
 Subject: Changing languages on the fly

   HI guys
 Aside from Windows+Control+l and as in my case, doing an I or E twice, for
 changing between English and Spanish when needed (the autodetect language
 isn't reliable thus I don't use it, but rather change it by hand), any
 other
 way? maybe a script that you guys have designed to maybe use
 Insert+Control+1 for Spanish, and Insert+control+2 for English? Using
 Jaws16. Thanks for info.

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Re: Reading long documents - Two questions on voices

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

With material I really need to understand and that I might need to
take notes for I simply don't use say all.  I will instead use line by
navigation for that sort of reading.  It is way slower than say all
but I find that with say all the programs idea of cursor position gets
separated from where jaws has read to so that if I interrupt speech I
then have to work to find the spot that I was just listening to.  With
line by line navigation that simply isn't a problem.

On 5/7/15, Rahul Bajaj via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi Ali:

 Being a law student, I can totally identify with your concerns. While
 I don't have any satisfactory responses, I guess one good remedy in
 this case could be altering the 'say all' settings in such a way as to
 ensure that JAWS pauses after whatever interval you deem fit. Also,
 can you let me know what voice you are using to make it sound more
 human? One problem which I sometimes face is that I am unable to
 recollect what I have read after reading long chunks of text at one
 go.



 On 07/05/2015, Ali Abdolrahmani via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I am a PhD student. I have to read many long papers and text books.
 When I read technical papers, I have the following concerns and I
 would like to know if any of members have suggestions or solutions:
 1. I use sentence by sentence reading command of Jaws to be able to
 capture as much as I read while reading. I pause between sentences and
 sometimes take notes. My problem is when the cursor goes to the next
 paragraph, I don't have any idea that the paragraph has changed.
 Understanding the change in paragraph helps when you like to organize
 your mind about the flow of concepts. Is there any solutions or
 workarounds that we can receive an audio feedback when the cursor goes
 to next paragraph?

 2. Second, for long and complex technical papers, I use expressive
 voices to sound to me more naturally and not make me tired. My problem
 is that I need to slow down the speed of the voice to be able to
 follow the complex structure of my papers. I wish I could change the
 pause length between words and after punctuations instead of slowing
 down the entire reading. Slowing down the entire reading makes me
 tired after some while. Is there any high quality synthesizer
 alternative voices that we can do this? I hope I could express what I
 mean well enough for folks.

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Re: my function keys (insert f1 through 12), have stopped working on my keyboard

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

And if talking about HP laptops the fn key is to the right of the left
control key (but it has to be hit in combination with the f key to be
invoked, it's not an on-off toggle), hp laptops also default to action
key mode where the f keys perform other actions (things like mute and
network airplane mode).  To reset the f keys from that mode requires
someone who can see because it can only be changed in the BIOS.

On 4/30/15, Harry Spencer via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 On my Microsoft brand keyboard the key to the right of F12 toggles the
 function keys on and off.

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 Coverdell
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 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:00 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ryan Coverdell; Ameen Ahmed
 Subject: my function keys (insert f1 through 12), have stopped working on
 my
 keyboard

 Windows 7,, jaws version 14. Somehow my function keys, (insert f1 through
 whatever), quit working. I can't exit web-pages (altogether f4), unload
 Jaws
 (insert plus f4), or even restart my computer using windows m and then
 altogether f 4 to get to the shut-down options. I have a neighbor who can
 see, that could try some things. But before I go to the trouble of finding
 out if he can do something I'd like to try to do some things myself. Could
 one of you please e-mail what to try and be as specific as possible. I
 don't
 want to completely mess up
 anything.  Kindest regards,   Ryan Coverdell  P.S. I hope
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Re: Remote desktop

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When I get that error it has been due to not having the client
components required as part of my jaws install.  It also takes having
purchased the jaws remote option (an additional $200 iirc).

On 4/27/15, Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Is anyone able to use JAWS on the remote computer in a remote desktop
 connection?

 I've done this once with no problem, but on a subsequent connection, I got
 a
 JAWS error: This application is not authorized to run in a terminal
 connection or something like that, and then JAWS promptly exited.

 Anyone else tried this? Thanks.
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Re: a problem I'm having

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I've tried WE a couple times and found pretty much the same thing.
Part of it is, I believe, simply being used to jaws and the way it
does things but even with a jaws keymap active it was still enough
different that I kept stumbling.  Plus there are certainly things
where WE simply is not as capable, things that matter a great deal to
me, the dictionary being the major item.  WE dictionary entries simply
could not deal with numerous punctuation sequences I use all the time.
I will admit that the WE scripting system is vastly better than jaws'
home built language but writing scripts is something I only rarely
need to do and now that jaws supports UIA even that difference isn't
all that important.

As for jaws and crashing I find the current situation with auto
restart far preferable to what it did up until a few years ago where
jaws crashing would very often freeze my entire system and a reboot
was the only way to recover. Waiting thirty seconds to a minute is way
better than wasting five plus minutes going through a reboot (plus
losing all unsaved work).

On 4/27/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 There is probably no screen reader that never crashes.  However, I've heard
 rumors that WindowEyes crashes much less frequently than JAWS.  As far as I
 know, though, there is no solid evidence to back this up.

 At any rate, if you are considering switching to WindowEyes, keep in mind
 that WindowEyes behaves very differently than JAWS.  That is true of
 keystrokes, as well as verbosity.  I myself can't stand WindowEyes!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:19 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: a problem I'm having

 How can we know that Window Eyes wouldn't crash? Whichever I get, I'm going
 to have to out and out get the newest version.

 GIFT (God is forever true),

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom macha via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Tom macha toml...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 4:33 PM
 Subject: Re: a problem I'm having


 Yes Carrylin, I agree witht the crashing issue on the issue with Jaws. I
 am thinking of switching to window-eyes.






 Sent from Windows Mail





 From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
 Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎April‎ ‎24‎, ‎2015 ‎4‎:‎34‎ ‎PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold





 I've been having more and more problem with the crashing in the last year,
 but thought it was because my windows and JAWS are pretty old. This is a
 little discouraging to think I'll still have to put up with it even after
 spending probably a thousand plus.

 GIFT (God is forever true),

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: a problem I'm having


 Yes, JAWS is becoming a crashing bore.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 08:45 AM
 Subject: RE: a problem I'm having


 If you're using the latest version of JAWS, that's probably due to the
 fact
 that JAWS stops working, and then restarts itself.  It happens to me all
 the
 time.  I understand the reasoning behind it, but you still don't have
 speech
 during that minute or so.  You're wondering if your computer has frozen
 or
 what's going on.  FS built that into JAWS 15 and 16.  In 15, you can
 control
 when JAWS restarts.  In version 16, it restarts for you.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt
 Taubert
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:07 AM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Curt Taubert
 Subject: a problem I'm having

 When I play a game that requires jaws, I notice that every once in a
 while
 jaws will stop talking for sometimes a minute.  Then it'll start back up
 again.
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Re: limit to dictionary

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

That seems unlikely that I would then always have problems at exactly
2000 entries shared between the user and shared file.

Even when I deleted some of the non-English default entries and added
new English entries it has always been right at 2000 entries that the
dictionary manager crashes.

On 4/18/15, Hozefa Tambawala via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 The size of the dictionary depends upon the number of characters
 entered in the dictionary including spaces.

 On 4/18/15, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Soronel, when you reached the limit, did Jaws start to lag a bit in
 responding to typing, and did either jdf become corrupted?
 do you know if the limit also includes entries concerning other
 languages in either the default and application dictionaries?
 do you know how much space a full jdf takes up on the HD?
 On 4/18/2015 11:23 AM, Soronel Haetir via Jfw wrote:
 Jaws is limited to 2000 entries per dictionary, shared between the
 user and shared configuration files.

 Jaws has two dictionaries active at any given time (the default and
 program specific dictionary, each of which loads user and shared
 files), each of the default and program dictionaries can have up to
 2000 entries so there is a limit of 4000 entries total.

 And I know this because it is a limit I have actually reached.

 On 4/18/15, Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I don't know for certain but I'd be surprised to find out that there is
 any
 limit at all, other than the limits of the resources of your own
 computer
 system.

 -Paul

 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:

 hi, does anyone know what is the limit to how many entries the
 dictionary
 can have? I heard the limit maybe 2000, but is that inclusive or
 exclusive
 of the default.jdf?


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Re: Highlighting in Adobe Reader

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I just tried the normal keyboard method, moving with the arrow keys
while holding shift, and the text was selected and ctrl+c copied it.

On 4/18/15, Barbara Corner via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Does anyone know if there are keyboard commands to use the Adobe Reader
 function that highlights text?
 Thanks!

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Re: limit to dictionary

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Jaws is limited to 2000 entries per dictionary, shared between the
user and shared configuration files.

Jaws has two dictionaries active at any given time (the default and
program specific dictionary, each of which loads user and shared
files), each of the default and program dictionaries can have up to
2000 entries so there is a limit of 4000 entries total.

And I know this because it is a limit I have actually reached.

On 4/18/15, Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I don't know for certain but I'd be surprised to find out that there is any
 limit at all, other than the limits of the resources of your own computer
 system.

-Paul

 On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 hi, does anyone know what is the limit to how many entries the dictionary
 can have? I heard the limit maybe 2000, but is that inclusive or exclusive
 of the default.jdf?


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Re: EBOOKS AND JAWS?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Some do, some don't.

For instance, even when marked as being accessible kindle books
require that jaws or some other recognized screen reader be running in
order for the accessible kindle app to operate in accessible mode
(although since one of the recognized readers is free this isn't much
of a limitation) but even then the app does not actually use the
recognized screen reader for voice output (instead the app has a
couple voices embedded and uses those).

With PDF again it is up to the publisher but at least there it is the
user's screen reader that will be used to read the content.

I can't speak for other e-book formats.

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 Do they work with Jaws? Thanks for info.

 Donna



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Re: Subject: Vocalizer Expressive Voices work, but Vocalizer Direct Voices

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

That is not actually true.

You do have to enable expressive and direct separately in the
synthesizer and braille manager but both will work in jfw16.  You
can't use both at the same time though, you are stuck having a profile
use either direct or expressive voices.

On 4/10/15, David Moore via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi, the direct voices do not work in JAWS 15 or 16.  If you have JAWS
 15 or 16, you can only use the express voices.

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Re: Video Intercept Manager

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

What OS is the system running?  I doubt VIM will work on any recent
version of windows - possibly to include vista and win7 but certainly
including 8 and 8.1)

On 3/3/15, Annabelle Susan Morison via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi, it's Annabelle.
 I have JAWS 10.0.1178U 64Bit version on my music machine, and I didn't see
 Video Intercept Manager in the folder of files. I tried to open it from the
 Utilities menu, but it gives me an error saying that it's not installed.
 How
 would I install Video Intercept Manager?
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Re: Questions about JAWS Scripts

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

In answer to your first question, no, not all software can be made
accessible through scripting.  It is very possible for programs to be
written in such a way that they simply do not expose enough
information for jaws to grab on to to be made usable.

The questions about how long and how much would it cost really don't
have anything like reasonable answers, it simply depends on how big
the program is and how little accessibility support it provides.

On 2/9/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Dear JAWS Users,



 At some point, each and everyone of you has probably faced frustration over
 having to deal with inaccessible software.  When more accessible
 alternatives exist, or when use of such software is not necessary, this
 isn't normally a major issue.  However, if a person's job depends on one's
 ability to work with such software efficiently, and it is not possible to
 bypass it, then there is a problem.



 Fortunately, as many of you know, JAWS offers the ability to improve user
 experience through scripts.  On that note, I have a few questions about
 JAWS
 scripts.  First off, how much can they do?  Can they make any software that
 is completely inaccessible fully compatible with JAWS, or are there some
 limitations that make it impossible to successfully script some
 poorly-designed programs.  Second, how long does it take to develop and
 test
 scripts for an application.  Finally, suppose that I am offered a job for a
 law firm and discover that its firm management software is inaccessible.
 If
 this happens and I must hire someone to write scripts for the software
 (assuming that all other screen readers fail as well, and that I cannot
 bypass the software), how much may this cost me or my potential employer?
 Is it likely to be a worthwhile investment, or is it better to seek
 employment elsewhere?



 Thank you in advance for your responses.



 Warm Regards,



 Michal

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Re: is visual studio accessible?

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

The non express editions are accessible, but while I know that until
recently express wasn't accessible at all I don't know if that is
still the case.

On 2/5/15, Kristoffer Gustafsson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I'm thinking about trying to use Visual studio.
 Is it accessible at all?
 Long ago I want Courses in programming, and had bad luck because it
 wasn't accessible at all with jaws. Editing, using and moving Controls
 etc.
 /Kristoffer

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Re: Trouble with say all

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Say all normally starts from the current cursor position, possibly the
beginning of the current line instead of the current position proper,
but it does not start from the beginning of the document as a general
matter.

On 2/4/15, Paul Lynch via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I was testing out the say all command, and I am confused by the
 behavior.  Sometimes say all only seems to say the current line or
 section, when I would expect it to always start from the top of the page.

 Test case:

 1) start JAWS
 2) Start IE 11, and go to
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Table_Reading_Commands.htm
 3) Let JAWS read a little bit, and then hit Esc.
 4) Hit insert + down arrow (say all).  JAWS starts reading from the first
 paragraph, skipping the heading.
 5) Hold down right arrow long enough to fast forward to the end of the
 page.
 6) Hit insert + down arrow (say all) again.  JAWS only reads the last line
 of the page.

 What does say all mean if it all doesn't mean the whole page?

 Thanks,
 --Paul

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Re: Random gibberish in the middle of articles

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

I thought FS said they fixed this with the last build of jaws 16.

On 1/26/15, Maria Campbell via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Really JAWS has many ways of navigation and getting away from junk.
 Insert 7 for links, you can move by buttons, frames, edit fields, etc.
 If you're smart, unlike me, you can create rules to skip all sorts of
 unwanted stuff.
 Despite all our complaints, there is truly nothing out there better than
 JAWS, in my humble opinion.


 Sunny Day
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 luc...@ct.metrocast.net

 Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
 Blaise Pascal

 On 1/26/2015 9:20 AM, Bissett, Tom via Jfw wrote:
 I find the easiest way to skip past these is to do a find on frame end
 with out the quotes.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
 via Jfw
 Sent: January 26, 2015 9:44 AM
 To: Rahul Bajaj; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Random gibberish in the middle of articles

 Hi, Rahul. I believe this is caused by scripts which are supposed to
 render the web page in a particular style or code. If the code or the
 script on the page fails to work correctly, you are left seeing the code
 instead of having the code display as the text or image which it is
 supposed to display.

 This also happens to me, and I just have to skip over the jibberish.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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 From: Rahul Bajaj via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 2:19 AM
 Subject: Random gibberish in the middle of articles


 Hi All,

 While reading articles on a large array of websites on Firefox, I
 often have to encounter random gibberish which considerably undermines
 the joy of reading. I am pasting below the text that I encountered the
 last time in the middle of an article:
 1-0-1;62190;!doctype htmlhtmlheadstyle!--
 a:link { color: #00 }a:visited { color: #00 }a:hover { color:
 #00 }a:active { color: #00 }  --/stylescript!--
 (function(){var d=this,f=function(a){var b=typeof
 a;if(object==b)if(a){if(a instanceof Array)returnarray;if(a
 instanceof Object)return b;var
 c=Object.prototype.toString.call(a);if([object
 Window]==c)returnobject;if([object Array]==c||number==typeof
 a.lengthundefined!=typeof a.spliceundefined!=typeof
 a.propertyIsEnumerable!a.propertyIsEnumerable(splice))returnarray;if([object
 Function]==c||undefined!=typeof a.callundefined!=typeof
 a.propertyIsEnumerable!a.propertyIsEnumerable(call))returnfunction}else
 returnnull;else
 if(function==bundefined==typeof a.call)returnobject;return
 b};var g;e:{var h=d.navigator;if(h){var k=h.userAgent;if(k){g=k;break
 e}}g=};var
 l=-1!=g.indexOf(Opera)||-1!=g.indexOf(OPR),n=-1!=g.indexOf(Trident)||-1!=g.indexOf(MSIE),p=-1!=g.indexOf(Gecko)-1==g.toLowerCase().indexOf(webkit)!(-1!=g.indexOf(Trident)||-1!=g.indexOf(MSIE)),q=-1!=g.toLowerCase().indexOf(webkit);(function(){var
 a=,b;if(ld.opera)return
 a=d.opera.version,function==f(a)?a():a;p?b=/rv\:([^\);]+)(\)|;)/:n?b=/\b(?:MSIE|rv)[:
 ]([^\);]+)(\)|;)/:q(b=/WebKit\/(\S+)/);b(a=(a=b.exec(g))?a[1]:);return
 n(b=(b=d.document)?b.documentMode:void
 0,bparseFloat(a))?String(b):a})();var r={};window.ss=function(a){void
 0!==r[a]?r[a]++:r[a]=1;var
 b=document.getElementById(a),c=r[a];if(window.css)css(a,nm,c,void
 0,void 0);else if(b){a=b.href;var
 e=a.indexOf(nm=);if(0e)c=a+nm=+c;else var
 e=e+4,m=a.indexOf(,e),c=0=m?a.substring(0,e)+c+a.substring(m):a.substring(0,e)+c;b.href=2E3c.length?a:c}};})();function
 su(id) {var a = document.getElementById(id);var b = (new
 Date()).getTime();if (a  a.myt  b) {var t = b - a.myt;if
 (window.css) {css(id,'clkt',t);return;}var
 bi = a.href.indexOf(clkt=);if (bi  0) {var c = a.href.substring(0,
 bi+6); var d = a.href.substring(bi+6, a.href.length);var ei =
 d.indexOf();var
 r = '';if (ei = 0)r = d.substring(ei, d.length);a.href = c + t + r; }
 else {a.href += clkt= + t;}}}(function(){var
 d=this,g=function(a){var b=typeof
 a;if(object==b)if(a){if(a instanceof Array)returnarray;if(a
 instanceof Object)return b;var
 c=Object.prototype.toString.call(a);if([object
 Window]==c)returnobject;if([object
 Array]==c||number==typeof a.lengthundefined!=typeof
 a.spliceundefined!=typeof
 a.propertyIsEnumerable!a.propertyIsEnumerable(splice))returnarray;if([object
 Function]==c||undefined!=typeof a.callundefined!=typeof
 a.propertyIsEnumerable!a.propertyIsEnumerable(call))returnfunction}else
 returnnull;else
 if(function==bundefined==typeof a.call)returnobject;return
 b};var h;e:{var k=d.navigator;if(k){var l=k.userAgent;if(l){h=l;break
 e}}h=};var
 m=-1!=h.indexOf(Opera)||-1!=h.indexOf(OPR),n=-1!=h.indexOf(Trident)||-1!=h.indexOf(MSIE),p=-1!=h.indexOf(Gecko)-1==h.toLowerCase().indexOf(webkit)!(-1!=h.indexOf(Trident)||-1!=h.indexOf(MSIE)),q=-1!=h.toLowerCase().indexOf(webkit);(function(){var
 a=,b;if(md.opera)return
 

Re: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

It would be fairly difficult for narrator to be implemented in such a
way that a complete install would be possible for us.  For instance
with the HP computers I have now in order to do a install or reset to
factory I have to use a boot screen menu that is present well before
windows runs at all.

On 1/21/15, Michael Malver via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I wonder if the issue isn't the screen reader, but how it is implemented.
 Put another way, could narrator allow us to install windows, if it were
 implemented slightly differently. This would allow us to have the
 installation ability that you get with Apple, but at the same time,
 Microsoft wouldn't have to commit to a full screen reader.


 On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 You may not want to start a discussion, but posting a link to this
 petition inevitably does just that. I worry that if MS came up with
 anything close to Apple's VoiceOver, employers would assume basic
 accessibility requirements have been met without the added cost of buying
 and updating JAWS. As good as VoiceOver may be, and despite our periodic
 frustrations with FS, JAWS is exclusively tailored to the needs of
 visually impaired computer users. I dread the day MS takes on this job and
 elbows FS out.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via
 Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:53 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

 Hi all,

 I consider this a very important petition, however, I do not wish to start
 a discussion on whether or not this will do away with blindness products,
 the attempt as such will fail, or any other messages of a similar nature.

 Someone started a petition calling on Microsoft to incorporate a real
 screen reader into Windows 10.
 This should include maintenance and installing capabilities.
 The link is here:
 https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-suggestions/suggestions/6942363-add-a-native-fully-functional-screen-reader-to-wi

 Share this with friends and family, on Facebook or Twitter. Anywhere you
 feel might give the necessary votes.

 Voting is easy, and you do not even need to provide an e-mail address.

 Regards,

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Re: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

And I've tried WE a couple times, having purchased the 60 day trial
option, and came away extremely unimpressed each time.

On 1/20/15, Barbara Corner via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I'm concerned if Microsoft incorporated a fully functional screen reader or
 Window-Eyes as the solution, it would not be flexible enough to be scripted
 or individualized for non Microsoft products.  This could affect employment
 options.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via
 Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:53 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

 Hi all,

 I consider this a very important petition, however, I do not wish to start
 a
 discussion on whether or not this will do away with blindness products, the
 attempt as such will fail, or any other messages of a similar nature.

 Someone started a petition calling on Microsoft to incorporate a real
 screen
 reader into Windows 10.
 This should include maintenance and installing capabilities.
 The link is here:
 https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-suggestions/sugg
 estions/6942363-add-a-native-fully-functional-screen-reader-to-wi

 Share this with friends and family, on Facebook or Twitter. Anywhere you
 feel might give the necessary votes.

 Voting is easy, and you do not even need to provide an e-mail address.

 Regards,

 Nermin
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Re: a windows 8.1 question

[Soronel Haetir via Jfw]

Have you looked on the view menu at the zoom level and text size
settings within IE itself?

On 1/12/15, Barbara Hansen via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,



 I am a JAWS 16 user and having a problem in internet explorer 11. For some
 reason, the web pages are displaying very small images. My sighted husband
 finds difficult to see whata is on the page. He is not computer savy, and I
 can see just enough to know that things just do not look right. I have gone
 through several things, like-display, brightness, etc. and now have gotten
 the icons on the desktop very large, which is not necessary. I do not know
 where or what to do to change settings to display normally. If anyone can
 advise, I would greatly appreciate this.



 Thanks,



 Barbara H.



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