Re: KR> Elevator travel
Netters Check page 59 in the manual. Aileron is +20 and -10 deg, Elevator is +30 and -20 deg, and the Rudder is +30 deg left and right. Pete Klapp, building N729PK, Canton, Ohio From: KRnet <krnet-boun...@list.krnet.org> on behalf of Paul Visk via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 8:52 AM To: KRnet Cc: Paul Visk Subject: Re: KR> Elevator travel I not totally sure. I think it's 20 up and 10 down. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> www.krnet.org Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. Unfortunately, this can ... see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> list.krnet.org KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to the list ... To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> www.krnet.org Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. Unfortunately, this can ... see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> list.krnet.org KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to the list ... To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
KR> wing tank building material - vinyl ester
Joe Try PBS boat store for vinyl ester. I remember that it was less than $100 Pete Klapp Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID bjoenunley via KRnet wrote: ?Vinyl Ester resin is also used in marine ?applications. With a little looking around ?you may find a supplier in Florida close to? you with no shipping needed. You are correct. I called boat supply stores down around the water. The smallest quantity that I have found was 1 gallon (more than I could use) for $150. But I will keep looking, thank you. Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> HELP FOR KR BUILDING
Bill The KR2 that you saw was probably the Porkopolis Pig and your description is pretty accurate. Pete Klapp Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID ol' weirdo via KRnet wrote: I have been thinking about Phil Hill's unsuccessful search for help for his KR project and a few points come to mind. Cal Parker in his plans and instruction booklet tells those who would build a Teenie to go out to the airport and look at airplanes. Go into the shops where airplanes are apart. Look at everything because every designer has the same fundamental problems. Besides Cessna and Piper look at the Citations and Lears too. Look at other stuff like boats and race cars. Their problems are not unlike airplane problems. A couple stories. It's a few years ago when crossing the border wasn't the hassle it is now, Peter, who is building a KR, and I flew to Toledo to what was billed as a KR flyin. As it worked out, there was one KR and to sum up, it was no thing of beauty. KR builders have a sanding song. This plane looked as though the builder had laid the fiberglass on the foam and patted it on with the heal of his hand. But he got into the plane and flew away. I listened to Chris Heintz of Zenith tell about standing with some members of the French equivalent to Transport Canada or whoever and one them said, "Look at this." One could see just by looking at it that the plane was crooked. And the owner got in and flew away. So don't be frightened. Remember, it's only an airplane. As they say, "it's not a piano." And don't be led astray by pictures of KRs or anything else. Those pretty girls in TV soap ads are barely real. They probably use pictures of different girls to make the ad, a face from one, an arm from another, and so on.. So when one looks at a picture of part of a KR or other, one is seeing only that part. The part you see might be beautiful but for the rest, it might be a good thing to keep it hidden. Finally, there is the "three times rule" Don't be ashamed to make something three times, once to sort out how to make it, once to make it right, and once to make it to the standard you want to maintain. No one ever admits that. And even though spruce has become expensive, working with it is more productive than nearly anything else you might do which means it isn?t expensive after all. Bill Weir ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> First flight, Finally
Outstanding!! I think I can see your smile all the way up here in Ohio. LOL Pete Klapp From: KRnet on behalf of Mike Sylvester via KRnet I finally flew N236MS today ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. KRnet Mail Archive - Message Detail<http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search> tugantek.com Earliest Date: Latest Date: Sender: Subject: Mail Body: Sort By: Page Rows Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. KRNet "Basic" Instructions<http://www.krnet.org/info.html> www.krnet.org Special Instructions for AOL Users. AOL and some other ISPs attempt to control spam through user actions, as well as some automatic controls. Unfortunately, this can ... see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options KRnet Info Page<http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org> list.krnet.org KRnet is a mailinglist devoted to construction and flying the KR series of homebuilt experimental aircraft. To see the collection of prior postings to the list ... To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
KR> Micro over "Smooth Prime"?
Netters I have been priming my plane with "Smooth Prime" and unfortunately I have found a few minor areas that will require a little touch-up micro. Too big to fix with future priming and blocking prior to final paint. Is there a problem to apply micro over "Smooth Prime"? Any special prep to insure bonding? Pete Klapp
KR> KR Poll............A, N
Paul here's my status Pete Klapp From: KRnet on behalf of Paul Visk via KRnet Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:21 PM To: KR EMAIL BOARD Cc: Paul Visk Subject: KR> KR Poll I think it would be fun to find out how many active KR builders there currently are. I'll let you determine for yourself if you consider yourself active. Next , if you had your first flight this year or you are planning to have it next year. Just email me at ppaulvsk at aol.com.In the subject line put" A" for active builder" T" for first flight this year " N" for first flight next yearI will give out the results at the gathering. Paul Visk Belleville IL 618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4 ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. KRnet Mail Archive - Message Detail<http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search> tugantek.com Earliest Date: Latest Date: Sender: Subject: Mail Body: Sort By: Page Rows To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> KR Project for sale/trade
I have a KR 2 Project that I started in the early 80's That I need to get out of my shop. It has a been widened 4" lengthened one Bay (I think 11"), has spar location altered for AS504x (6 as I recall) and a dragonfly Canopy These mods were made before the KR2S eas released (not the airfoil mod of course). There are thing I'd like to change but am moving on to other projects. I also have a relatively stock KR2 Canopy and frame that I removed from my other KR 2 when I replaced the canopy with an RV12 canopy (long story). These items are in Woodburn, OR and the price will be very right to someone that would like a headstart on a project. Contact me off line if you are interested or you know someone that be. Pete Gauthier
KR> Microsoft#$%*
Larry I added Windows 10 to my pc after having problems with my Windows 7 which had become corrupted. I was tired of trying to find ways to work around the problems (freezing up, changing pages on its own, slowed than dial up, etc). Only issue was finding a driver for my old ass printer. Luckily, my son cured that problem and all has been great since. Sorry that you had such problems. Pete Klapp > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:10:50 -0600 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Microsoft#$%* > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: gliders at spinn.net > > Happened to a friend of mine exactly the same way. Any idea how to avoid > it happening again when Windows installs updates? Custom install? > Chris K > > On 6/25/2016 10:05 AM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > > > Microsoft users BEWARE !!! > > > > I purchased a refurbished laptop last September so I could get one > > with the Windows7 OS. During updates last week in stuck in the > > Windows10 upgrade. > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > > change options > > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> VW Engines
Chris Check out Roy Szarafinski's Fifth Bearing at roysgarage.com in Osseo, Michigan.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, Ohio > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:44:43 + > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> VW Engines > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: billjacobs386 at yahoo.com > > There are a couple of versions of an additional front mounted bearing. > It's called a 5th bearing, BTA, (better than air), etc. Go to flycorvair.net > or Dan Wesemans Fly with SPA. Or google Corvallis 5th bearing. Bill Jacobs > Daytona Beach, Fl. > > On Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:44 PM, Kayak Chris via KRnet list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > Well this set of comments would have me steer well clear of GPASC > engine. Even if they are reliable when properly mated and assembled, > it sounds like their crankshaft/hub solution is not very serviceable > down the line. > > After all these years how can this not been resolved? Presumably the > revmaster solution is more certain in service and serviceability. > > > Having built one of these several times, I'm not > > a fan of the keyway setup. The slots are in hub and crank are shallow, and > > the key is provided as a square key that you need to grind (or mill) down to > > something way thinner to fit between hub and crank. Getting a good fit with > > maximum material is trial and error. The key is only there to ensure the > > timing mark stays constant if the hub is removed. The taper is where the > > power is transferred. > > > > Crank and hub are also matched sets due to tolerances on the angle. The hub > > still needs to be lapped onto the crank, which is a two-hour chore by hand. > > > > The hub/bearing clearance is not consistent. The crank and bearing are sold > > as a set, and getting a new bearing for an existing crank is iffy. I've > > torqued the case to 8 ft-lbs and the crank still spun, then when I torqued > > it to 14 the crank seized. No amount of refitting cured that one. I'm not > > a great fan of the prop bolt...1/2" RH threads. Revmaster's is .75" LH > > threads, which can be torqued higher for a better connection. Otherwise, a > > simple engine backfire can unscrew the prop, despite proper torque and > > Loctite 620 on the bolt threads. > > > > If the crankshaft's oil seal leaks, the hub isn't going to come off without > > a 20 ton press, so tear the engine down to replace the seals, and hope the > > next seals work better. My luck with those seals has not been good either. > > That's the only place my engine has lost oil. > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Ethanol
Ron Ethanol free fuel is also available at many marinas, at least here in Ohio. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, Ohio > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:19:39 + > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Ethanol > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ronwright5 at yahoo.com > > It is a simple matter to separate the ethanol out of the gas. They recommend > using Premium fuel due to a drop in octane when taking the ethanol out. Get > a clear tank, add ethanol fuel, dump in water and watch it separate out the > ethanol/water solution. Drain out the ethanol/water and you only have > unleaded auto fuel left over. If you want the specific amount of water to > use per gallon, Google the question and you will easily find several methods > for doing this. Simple and easy to use. Doesn't take very long to do it > either.. > > Another solution was to add a long length of clear tubing to the gas can with > a shut off valve at the bottom. Dump in the water to the fuel, turn the can > upside down and shake. Watch the water/ethanol separate in the clean tubing; > open the valve and let the ethanol/water drain out; what you have left is > pure gasoline. > > Works great. Your choice as to whether or not you want to try it. > > Ron > > > > On Mon, 6/6/16, Mike Stirewalt via KRnet wrote: > > Subject: KR> Ethanol > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Cc: laser147 at juno.com > Date: Monday, June 6, 2016, 1:52 PM > > I had an old Cadillac with a computer > display that would read out my > real-time fuel consumption. I imagine most cars have > such things these > days, althoiugh the Oldsmobile that I replaced my beloved > Cadillac with > doesn't. Whenever I would drive cross country and got > into the mid-west > where ethanol is sold, my fuel mileage would always go > down. > > I'm impressed by the statement "The fastest cars in the > country use it." > so obviously I'm suffering form a misconception. I > inherently disliked > it because it decreased my fuel mileage and because > government welfare to > all the farmers who grow corn for ethanol annoyes me > too. Plus, I've > never trusted it in my KR. If I do ever use auto fuel > in the KR > (GP-2180) I always use Chevron Supreme, which is what I > always use in my > other vehicles. Calling Chevron headquarters in San > Francisco several > years ago, they told me Supreme has 7% ethanol in it. > It may be more > now, or less, but thinking I could avoid ethanol by buying > top grade > gasoline was not correct. I think it's all got ethanol > in it, except for > boutique racing shops that sell ethanol-free gas for > racing. Why would > racing shops sell ethanol-free gas for racing if "the > fastest cars in the > country use it." I'm not arguing here since I'm not > very smart, but just > relating my experiences. > > Steve Bennett said he always ran my engine on ethanol-free > gas - which he > could get in Omaha. Here in San Diego it's only > available from > specialized racing shops. From Steve's comments on > operation of my > engine, I've tried to keep ethanol out of the tanks but I > have > occasionally put some Chevron Supreme in. It's always > mixed with > whatever 100LL is already in the tank. In my aux tank > in the wing, made > from vinyl ester, I've been religious about never putting > anything but > 100LL in it. I've heard too many stories about car gas > wreaking havoc to > tanks and fuel components for me to use it more than very > occasionally. > Just my experience. I'm still learning new things . . > .hope we all are. > > > > Nextiva vFAX > Why Do You Still Have An Old Fax Machine? > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5755c69e982ad469e6d0cst04vuc > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > to change options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
Thanks Mark. > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 12:58:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings? > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ml at n56ml.com > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > >>What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are vertical as > mine are, is a small fillets okay?<< > > I'd probably do it much like before, except (as I mentioned on the > website) I'd run the wing skins all the way to the fuselage and use a > small micro fillet on the front part, and where (if) the fuselage starts > diverging before the trailing edge I'd transition to a larger fillet > like the one I did. > > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
MarkSO!!! What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are vertical as mine are, is a small fillets okay? My fuselage starts to taper into prior to trailing edge of the wing so maybe a larger, broader fillet there would be a good thing?!Any thoughts?Pete > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:56:52 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings? > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ml at n56ml.com > > HA! After reading my own stub wing website, I did say that about an > airplane...Nemesis, and then recommended exactly what Pete mentioned...a > simple micro fillet between the joints. It's a good thing I did this > website...so I'd know how to build my next one the fast and "good enough > for KR work" way... > > http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
MarkSorry I got you wrong as the author. Maybe your name was somewhere in the post and I thought you had said it. Strega is a highly modified P-51 pylon racer, Reno air race type.So based on what you and Larry have done, it looks like I'm doing wing root fillets.Thanks, Pete > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:39:38 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings? > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ml at n56ml.com > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > >> I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have > >> large radius fillets. You'd think they would have them as they are > >> trying tosqueeze every mph that they can from that airframe > > I don't remember saying that about any airplane, and am not sure what a > Strega is (Google says "italian for witch" and an Italian liquor). > > I put a fairly large fillet radius between wing and fuselage, using a 3" > diameter cardboard tube with some 36 grit floor sander adhesive belt > wrapped around it. 4" PVC pipe works fine too. It knocked that job out > rather quickly, although glassing any inside radius is a bit of a pain > in the butt. See http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html for excruciating > details on how I did my wing root fillets. Despite fretting over it for > years, the actual job went pretty quickly once I set my mind to it... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
Larry Mine fuselage does not flare out at the top. My fuselage sides are vertical and the angle between the inboard stub wings is 90 degrees, same as the RV's.Pete > Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:08:44 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings? > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: flesner at frontier.com > > At 10:44 AM 5/26/2016, you wrote: > >Netters > >I'm confused as to the necessity of large radius' at the wing root. > ++ > > Most KR's, when built to plans, have the fuselage "flare" out at the > top making less than a 90 degree angle at the win root, thus a drag > creator. I think the RV has pretty much a 90 degree angle at that point. > > Easiest way to make a fillet is to glass the top of the wing and let > cure. Place a piece of foam at the wing to fuselage junction and use > a cylinder of some type, soda can, pvc pipe, or other of the desired > radius wrapped with sand paper and sand to shape. Having the wing > top glassed will keep from sanding the wing foam at that point. Cut > kerfs in the foam block so it conforms easily to the wing shape when > gluing in place. Should take less than an hour to shape and > glass. It doesn't need any flox/resin, just micro if needed for > finishing. The fillet also makes it look more "finished". Looks > follow function. If it looks fast it probably is. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
Netters I'm confused as to the necessity of large radius' at the wing root. I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have large radius fillets. You'd think they would have them as they are trying to squeeze every mph that they can from that airframe. Neither do the RV series of planes, only a "U" shaped gasket over the edge of the wing skin were it meets the fuselage side. I'm tempted to put a "finger fillet" of flox along the juncture, dressed with a light layer of micro for easy finishing. Thoughts? All info gladly accepted. Pete Klapp
KR> Facet fuel pump flare?
Mark Your fuel system page shows your Facet fuel pumps connected to fuel lines using AN fittings. I spoke with a "tech?" at Facet and he "thought they were a 45 deg SAE flare" as they only made fuel pumps for automotive use. Had you had any leaks or problems using the 37 deg AN fittings? Did you alter the AN fittings to 45 deg?Pete
KR> Canopy Choices
Matt Contact Todd's Canopies @954-579-0874, they make Dragonfly canopies. I used one on my KR-2S as I made my fuselage 5" wider than stock. There service is great and their canopies are well made. Pete Klapp, building N729PK, Canton,OH > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:23:48 -0400 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Canopy Choices > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: crazymonkey16 at ptd.net > > Hey all, I?m about ready to purchase a canopy and get the top half of this > boat shaped. I really like the way those Dragonfly canopies look, but they > don?t seem to be available anymore. Three questions: > 1. Has anyone used the Aircraft Spruce KR2 canopy, and do you have pictures? > What about other options? > 2. The original canopy looks like it would cause excess drag due to the > abrupt angle change where it meets the forward deck. Is this a valid reason > to choose a different canopy, or is the performance difference probably too > small to notice? > 3. Does anyone have a canopy they want to get rid of? I know a guy who?s > looking for one? :) > > Matt Quimby > kr2pilot.blogspot.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> engine run videos
ok. It showed up on Facebook. Pete > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 23:33:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> engine run videos > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: pkengr at hotmail.com > > Still nothing?!?! > > > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:32:32 -0400 > > To: krnet at list.krnet.org; corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org > > Subject: KR> engine run videos > > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > CC: PPaulVsk at aol.com > > > > > > > > I figured out a why to get the video up on the list of my engine run. > > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286086 > > 3677/?type=3 > > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286114 > > 3684/?type=3 > > > > Paul Visk > > Belleville Il. > > 618 406 4705 > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > > options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> engine run videos
Still nothing?!?! > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:32:32 -0400 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org; corvaircraft at list.corvaircraft.org > Subject: KR> engine run videos > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: PPaulVsk at aol.com > > > > I figured out a why to get the video up on the list of my engine run. > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286086 > 3677/?type=3 > https://www.facebook.com/ppaulvsk/videos/pcb.10207942867583845/1020794286114 > 3684/?type=3 > > Paul Visk > Belleville Il. > 618 406 4705 > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> KR Engine Cowling
Mark / Netters I have run the CG numbers many times using four different datum reference points and have determined that I need to move the engine three inches fwd of the WW location for a standard KR-2S. As Joe Horton noted, my plane is 1'-3" longer than any of the other planes that responded to his request for dimensions. My flying CG with me and partial fuel to max gross wt at 1320 goes from 1.25" aft of the fwd limit to 3.5" aft of the fwd limit, well within the "preferred 6" CG range. All the calculations came within a 1/16" no matter where I set the datum. My next step is to build the cowling. Ron Willet is making a female mold off a cowling plug that I have as we speak. I will do the same after I make some slight changes to the plug, to clear the alternator. My question for Mark and fellow netters is where to purchase carbon fiber cloth other than Aircraft Spruce as they are pretty pricey. Also need to know which weave is best to use. Thanks in advance for any info, Pete Klapp
KR> weight and balance
Gary My plans manual, ss# 1216, list 15% to 35% MAC for RAF 48 airfoil. I used Diehl skins on my project. Pete To: krnet at list.krnet.org List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:59:48 -0500 Subject: Re: KR> weight and balance From: krnet at list.krnet.org CC: gary769rv at verizon.net >From my plans, the CG is 15% to 40% of the wing chord. That was the old wing. Is it the same with to AS5048 wing? Gary ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> weight and balance
Larry Thanks for the link for the weight and balance handbook. I've been using the formulas from AC 91-23 DOT manual. I ran more numbers using several datums: aft of the main gear, several inches out in front of the spinner, and the prop flange. All the numbers come out good. Empty CG's fall fwd of the RR CG range. When I put in values for me, a passenger, various fuel quantities, baggage in various configurations, all the "flying CG's" fell within an 1.75 to 3.5" aft of the RR CG range, resulting in a total of about 1.75" change from me and 1/2 fuel to max gross wt. Everything fell very close to the middle or better of the "preferred 6" CG range". Looks like I can move the engine between 2 to 3" fwd of where a WW engine mount would locate a Corvair engine. Thanks for your help and insight. Pete > Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:42:15 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> weight and balance > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: flesner at frontier.com > > > > > > Here is everything you need to know about weight and balance: > > https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/media/FAA-H-8083-1A.pdf > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> C.G location,
Thanks Jeff, Larry, Mark, Dan for all the good advise. Since I don't yet know where the engine will be mounted, my best choices for the datum are the firewall and a point some distance out in front of the prop independent of the spinner. Calculations I have run using the later have yielded acceptable results. I am going to re-run the calculations using the firewall datum and see if they match. As a bit of info on the temporary motor mount that I build, the "tray" that supports the engine is six (6) inches longer than WW version. With the tray being 3" closer to 3" farther away from the firewall, I should be able to find a suitable location resulting in a fwd CG. I'll run the numbers and publish the results.Pete > Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 07:37:43 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> C.G location, > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: flesner at frontier.com > > > > Mark and Jeff are both correct in saying the spinner is not the ideal > place to choose as a datum to calculate W as that point could > change in the future and cause self induced errors. I was addressing > Pete's concern that using the spinner was giving him errors in his > calculations. I was simply saying that the spinner is as valid a > datum point as any other point he chooses for his calculations as > long as his measurements and math are correct. It does add a small > factor of complication to the process as the arm increases with each > movement of the engine but with minds like ours that should not be a > major hurdle. I would also suggest that Pete pick a more appropriate > datum for the future aircraft records. I used the forward face of > the 5 inch prop extension on the 0-200 and that is noted in the > aircraft log as well as the W sheet in the aircraft. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
Guys I have done calculations on several different engine locations. The temporary engine mount I made allows me to move the engine about five inches fwd and aft. I'm using the tip of the spinner as my ref datum so each time I move the engine fwd so moves the datum and I'm not sure if that is correct. My calculations as I move the engine fwd are moving closer to the fwd RR CG limit, but only in very small increments. I would have thought moving the engine five (5) fwd would have had a large change in CG location. Should I be using the firewall as a datum as it remains constant with respect to the RR CG range? All the calculations have placed the flying CG within the RR CG range and the "plane" goes over gross before getting to the safe aft CG limit.Looking for advise from the smart ones!!!Pete Klapp > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:40:41 -0400 > From: n357cj at ptd.net > To: pkengr at hotmail.com > CC: ml at n56ml.com > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline > > Hi Pete, > Just information for you... no advice.. Your Airframe is one of the longest > if not thee longest constructed from the information that I have been > collecting. by something like 1'-3". The next closest air frame is a flying > plane and the dimensions that you sent me are proportional from in front of > the main spar to the rear of it. 'having said that and a moment to digest it > I would think that the engine mount would be very similar to length as what > Mark and I had made. My gut reaction is that Maybe an extra inch might be > appropriate. As far as the thought process of where to shoot for would be > half fuel plus some fluff for all the stuff that you end up hauling around > like flight bag, some tools, O2, headsets and the like. I have found that I > most often fly with just barely under a half to full tank header and 3/4 to > nothing in the wing tanks. Taking a trip being the exception when I start at > full gross and fly until I have just the one hour reserve left. The end > result that has been very satisfying to me is that I only trim for take off, > landing and on a trip going from full gross to empty tanks. Even then the > trimming is pretty minimal. >As a side note my plane really does not like the rear CG even with out the > 2" that we all agree is not safe. I really avoid that area completely and try > to manage fuel movement from wings to header when I am at fully loaded > condition. > Joe Horton > > > - Original Message - > From: "Pete Klapp via KRnet" > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Cc: "Pete Klapp" > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:04:24 PM > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline > > Mark > I think I going to move the engine a little further fwd such that it > calculates out that full fuel and pilot puts the cg right at the fwd end of > the cg range. What about changing the location of the cg range, or should I > stay with RR location? > And you don't see a problem with lowering the centerline to 3 to 3.25" below > the longerons? I will still have about 9.5" ground clearance. > Pete > > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:42:07 -0500 > > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline > > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > CC: ML at N56ML.com > > > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > > > > I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into > > > the RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within > > > 6" preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the > > > preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that > > > with me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.< > > > > N891JF is right at the forward limit with pilot and full fuel, and I can > > tell you that I need a lot of UP trim to keep the nose up, but it's a small > > trim tab and I still have plenty of travel left, so it does work. Forward > > is certainly better than too far aft, and even though yours has a > > nosewheel, > > I wouldn't expect any problems being able to rotate the nose up on takeoff. > > It's easy enough to move some things aft if needed later, and it's better > > to > > start with max stability, rather than min. > > > > > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine > > > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the > > > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine > > > cowling and cooling plenum. Anyone see a problem with that.
KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
Mark I think I going to move the engine a little further fwd such that it calculates out that full fuel and pilot puts the cg right at the fwd end of the cg range. What about changing the location of the cg range, or should I stay with RR location? And you don't see a problem with lowering the centerline to 3 to 3.25" below the longerons? I will still have about 9.5" ground clearance. Pete > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:42:07 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ML at N56ML.com > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > > I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into > > the RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within > > 6" preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the > > preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that > > with me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.< > > N891JF is right at the forward limit with pilot and full fuel, and I can > tell you that I need a lot of UP trim to keep the nose up, but it's a small > trim tab and I still have plenty of travel left, so it does work. Forward > is certainly better than too far aft, and even though yours has a nosewheel, > I wouldn't expect any problems being able to rotate the nose up on takeoff. > It's easy enough to move some things aft if needed later, and it's better to > start with max stability, rather than min. > > > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine > > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the > > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine > > cowling and cooling plenum. Anyone see a problem with that.< > > My CG is 2.375" below the longerons on N56ML, and it's not a problem at all > in any respect with my plane. > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
Not a problem as I would still have approx. 9.5" ground clearance. > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:17:21 +1000 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> C.G location, Engine centerline > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: tking58 at gmail.com > > Does dropping the engine centreline create any issues with prop ground > clearance? > > Cheers, > > Tony > > On 31 March 2016 at 11:13, Pete Klapp via KRnet > wrote: > > > KRNetters > > > > Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine > > mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the > > centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine > > > > Pete Klapp > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > > options > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> C.G location, Engine centerline
KRNetters I am in the process of determining the cg on my project. In comparing cg location, RR plans show the 8" cg range with the fwd edge of the range starting 8" aft of the leading edge of the wing. Based on the profile of the 48" rib, the leading edge of the cg range is 2" fwd of the front face of the main spar. I have Diehl RAF - 48 skins along with inboard skins that Jeannette Rand also produced. With those, the leading edge of the wing is 11.5" fwd of the front spar face, an 1.5" fwd of RR plans. Should I move the cg envelope fwd by that 1.5" or use the cg range set by RR. Next question: Preliminary calculations show my empty cg is approx. an 1" fwd of the RR cg location. Knowing that any weight added, passengers, fuel, baggage, etc will fall push the flying cg aft, should I fabricate my engine mount using this calculated engine position? I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into the RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within 6" preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that with me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit. Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine cowling and cooling plenum. Anyone see a problem with that. All advise cheerfully accepted, Thanks in advance for any and all assistance. Pete Klapp
KR> 2016 KR Gathering at Mt Vernon
Netters Has a date been determined for this year's Gathering? I have an obligation slated for mid- September that I can schedule around if I know when the Gathering will be. Has a website been set up for registration? Pete Klapp
KR> Angle of Attack sys
Thanks Larry. I have been reading up on the Skyview sys which I have for my panel. I wasn't aware of all the capabilities of the system. You mentioned that you had helped install a Skyview sys w/ AoA in a friend's RV-10. I haven't completely digested all the features of the Skyview sys. Does the AoA require an additional component or is it a built-in feature of the system? If it is part of the system, I may just purchase the static/AoA probe and sell the Advanced Flight AoA package. Decisions, decisions. Pete > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:29:00 -0600 > To: pkengr at hotmail.com > From: flesner at frontier.com > Subject: RE: KR> Angle of Attack sys > > At 08:35 PM 2/24/2016, you wrote: > >I misspoke. The unit I have is the Sport not the Pro version where > >you have to install pressure ports in the bottom and top of the wing > >somewhere between 15 to 40% of the wing chord. > > > Pete, > > Looking at the 125 page document ( > http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Support/AOAsupport/aoasupport.html > ), they seem to imply that it is not that critical as long as you > follow the "don't place near tip, propeller arc, etc., as long as > the top and bottom are located at the same % of chord and offset by 2 > to 4 inches ( I think that's what I read). > > A mid wing location would have a chord of approx 42 inches. 25% > would be 10.5 inches and I think that would be just behind the > spar. I'm guessing at these measurements but that's where I think > I'd locate them. A small access panel for installation could be cut > BEHIND each port. Check the site in blue below. May be more info there. > > Larry > > > === > page 40 > > There are some places where pressure ports should > not be located on the wing such as in line with the > propeller wash, too close to the wing tip, and in areas > difficult to access. Generally 15% to 40% chord and > forward of the ailerons will work well. The upper and > lower ports should be located at the same % chord but > offset by 2" to 4" spanwise. > A. Pick the pressure port locations. For the best wing > port locations, check the Appendix I or better yet, > our web site at > www.angle-of-attack.com > for the > most recent information. >
KR> Angle of Attack sys
Larry I misspoke. The unit I have is the Sport not the Pro version where you have to install pressure ports in the bottom and top of the wing somewhere between 15 to 40% of the wing chord. My question was where along the wing, outside the prop wash area, is the best place. Is there a problem with being to close to the wingtip or a fuel cap, does surface with rivets pose an issue? Those are the questions I have. Pete > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:21:40 -0600 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Angle of Attack sys > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: flesner at frontier.com > > At 11:53 AM 2/24/2016, you wrote: > >Has anyone installed an AOA warning system in their KR-2S? I'm > >looking for suggestions as to pressure port locations that anyone > >has used for their installation. > ++++++ > > Pete, > > I looked at the unit you have on line. Both pressure ports on > located on the single pitot assembly. You simply have to get the > pitot assembly located on the wing to be properly aligned for cruise > or as directed in the mounting instructions. As the angle of attack > increases at slower speeds, the difference in pressure between the > two fixed ports gives you a read on the panel. The pitot assembly > looks exactly like the one installed on a friends RV10. Once > installed, it was calibrated in flight with a simple procedure of > doing a 5 degree nose up and down from level flight and then doing a > stall. Yours will have its own specific instructions. If you don't > have the procedure for your assembly, contact the manufacturer. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> KR's and Angle of Attack sys
Netters Has anyone installed an AOA warning system in their KR-2S? I'm looking for suggestions as to pressure port locations that anyone has used for their installation. I have a Advanced Flight Systems Pro series AOA that I want to use in my plane. All suggestions and ideas cheerfully accepted for evaluation. Pete Klapp, building N729PK, Canton, OH
KR> FW: Fuselage dimensions for N729PK, rev 1
Joe I forgot to mention that that I used the NACA 63009 airfoil and added six inches per side to the elevator for a total width of seven (7) feet. The vertical stab is an additional 4" taller and I used the NACA 63005 airfoil. The wings are RAF 48 as I had the Diehl wing skins and the wing incidence is at 2 degrees instead of 3-1/2. > To: n357cj at ptd.net; krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:09:52 -0500 > Subject: KR> Fuselage dimensions for N729PK > From: krnet at list.krnet.org48 > CC: pkengr at hotmail.com > > Joe > I used all 14' of the longeron material from Wicks as suggested by Mark > Langford. Mine measures 28" (2'4") to the front face of the firewall from the > front face of the fwd spar. From the front face of the fwd spar to the aft > face of the bottom of the stern post, I measured 141" (11'-9"). I added an > addition bay to the fuselage. My fuselage is 4" wider than a std KR-2S. Of > the additional length, 3" of it was added forward of the front spar, the rest > is aft. > Pete Klapp > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: hello from Cincinnati (aera)
From: pkengr at hotmail.com To: minskeep at gmail.co Subject: FW: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera) List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:09:34 -0500 From: pkengr at hotmail.com To: minskeep1 at gmail.com Subject: RE: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera) List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:07:12 -0500 Mike Sorry to hear you are no longer able to fly. Yeah I'm still working on my plane. Life gets in the way. Down to finishing the ailerons which are almost done. That leaves the engine mount, cowling, prop and paint. Have been able to spent more time on it since I retired. Hopefully out of the basement this year. Pete . > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:42:44 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> hello from Cincinnati (aera) > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: minskeep1 at gmail.com > > hey, we meant about 2-3 years ago at the airfield, (can't remember > the name ) it is a grass strip . there was a kr gathering so to speak > of . roy ,s. was there if that helps > > we came to your home to see your project in the basement , I thought > it was near donr then 90% DONE 90%TO GO . thought you would be flying > now > > me ? I have had bad health and had to give it up . sold the swift and > now I just get rides with the local guys . we still live at the > airport kgeo . we might sell soon as I don't fly anymore . > > just wanted to say hi and tell ya to drop in if you fly down this way > sometime. > > -- > Michael > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Fuselage dimensions for N729PK
Joe I used all 14' of the longeron material from Wicks as suggested by Mark Langford. Mine measures 28" (2'4") to the front face of the firewall from the front face of the fwd spar. From the front face of the fwd spar to the aft face of the bottom of the stern post, I measured 141" (11'-9"). I added an addition bay to the fuselage. My fuselage is 4" wider than a std KR-2S. Of the additional length, 3" of it was added forward of the front spar, the rest is aft. Pete Klapp
KR> Supplier of aircraft wood
I went to Wicks. They have a complete kit, all the spruce, in the needed lengths, width and thickness to complete a KR-2S. The longeron material comes in 14' length which allows you to lengthen a KR to it's best configuration. See Mark Langford's site as to best lengthening layout. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, OH > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:19:04 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> Supplier of aircraft wood > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: wdelislesr at carolina.rr.com > > S s_sbal, > > A quick internet search found this; > > http://www.wood-source.com/lumber-and-wood-products/rough-and-dressed-lumber/douglas-fir/douglas-fir-select/ > > Hours of Operation: > Weekdays 7:30am - 5pm > Saturday 8am - 12 Noon > 6178 Mitch Owens Rd, > Manotick, Ontario, Canada > K4M 1B2 > > Tel: 613.822.6800 > Toll Free: 855.822.6800 > Fax: 613.822.6803 > Email: info at wood-source.com > > Wayne DeLisle Sr. > > > > KR> Supplier of aircraft wood > > > > S s_sbal at hotmail.com > > Fri Jan 15 20:24:47 EST 2016 > > Previous message (by thread): KR> Supplier of aircraft wood > > > I understand well now the situation with the aircraft wood suppliers. I may > > try first to get decent Douglas Fir select lumber that I will test myself. > > If I fail to get what I expect, I will order from Wicks or Aircraft Spruce > > Canada. > > Thanks to all ! > > > >> There really isn't any other aircraft quality wood sources here in Canada > >> these days as wood is less popular than it once was. > >> I used Aircraft Spruce who has a CDN store at Brantford airport. > > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Glassing Tiger Gear legs
Phil, Structurally the added layer is not necessary but it will protect the real fine uni on the surface. I added a styrofoam leading and trailing edge then wrapped with one layer of 7533 (KR cloth) including all the flat surfaces with bolt holes. I then filled the flat between the leading and trailing edge with micro to smooth the contour. Pete
KR> KR Gathering
Paul I arrive at 12:23 local at Portland on American AA47. I have a car reservation at Alamo if anyone needs a ride. Pete Klapp Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Paul VISK via KRnet wrote: Me to. Eta 12:05 Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705 Original message From: David Mullins via KRnet Date: 9/2/2015 2:13 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: David Mullins Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Off to the Airport, See y'all there! Dave Mullins Nashua NH ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> KR Gathering
Paul I arrive at 12:23 local at Portland on American AA47. I have a car reservation at Alamo if anyone needs a ride. Pete Klapp Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Paul VISK via KRnet wrote: Me to. Eta 12:05 Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705 Original message From: David Mullins via KRnet Date: 9/2/2015 2:13 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Cc: David Mullins Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Off to the Airport, See y'all there! Dave Mullins Nashua NH ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> KR Forum at Airventure
Paul I'll be there all week with my son and grandsons. My cell is 330-388-2074. Pete Klapp > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:26:09 +1000 > Subject: Re: KR> KR Forum at Airventure > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: pk.smith at bigpond.net.au > > Hi from Australia, I may be late for the forum but would love to catch up > with any KR guys attending. Please PM a phone number so I can go d you. > Paul from Brisbane, Australia. > > Sent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network > > - Reply message - > From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" > To: "KRnet" > Cc: "Mark Langford" > Subject: KR> KR Forum at Airventure > Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2015 9:15 AM > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> rudder stops
"Hey Guys, Looks like I'll be doing Rudder stops as an afterthought. What's the best place and method for this ?" I don't often contribute but I think this time it is important. My take on this is; I am installing stops at both ends. The reason: I hear it is accepted good practice to stop the control surface, and the force in the control cable is exactally the same at any point in the system. does the force originate from your foot or the airodynamic force on the rudder? Which is the applied force and which is the reaction makes no difference to the components. For the usual KR style rudder peddle assembly, if the horn is stopped and the peddle still has travel there will be a high amount of torque applied to the peddle assembly. That is how mine failed. The pilot applied more right rudder force that was effectivly needed (not hard to imagine in a stressful situation). The horn stopped but the peddle continued for another half inch or so and the miter joint on the peddle assembly snapped. The resulting ground loop provided an opportunity to redesign the landing gear, I never did like that design. nothing was bent on the peddle assembly so I simply welded it back together and added a wrap around gusset with the welds in shear increasing the torsion stength many time over but now the added torsional strength is mostly redundent because the peddle assembly will not be loaded in torsion any more than would be applied by normal aerodynamic rudder load (or is that foot force?). That's my story and I'm stickin to it. Pete Gauthier KR Builder Woodburn, OR
KR> Fwd: KR2 World tour.
Will Colin be at Oshkosh again this year? Pete Klapp > Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 09:29:02 +0100 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Fwd: KR2 World tour. > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: mac.xm657 at gmail.com > > Sorry -should have mentioned -the mag failure is on day 2-if you don't want > to wade through the whole thing.. > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Mac McConnell-Wood > Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:22 AM > Subject: KR2 World tour. > To: KRnet > > > Did anyone on the list meet Colin Hales -who flew from UK to Oshkosh? > He previously flew from UK to Australia-in the same KR2 > I met him briefly in '85 when I was building my standard KR2.G-BVZJ > He has an online diary at"kr2worldtour"which is well worth a > read.-Especially his encounter with a fake rotor arm which came from a > "reliable"source but failed after 5 hours.There was an official warning > about them , but not seen by Colin until after the event! > Just thinking about Mark's experience.. > > Mac > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: April 6, 2015 - Minn. DNR adds 6 new Fire Boss airplanes to aerial firefighting fleet
Check out the first item under "Aviation Update"!!! He's BACK List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:36:17 -0500 From: aopa at smartbrief.com To: pkengr at hotmail.com Subject: April 6, 2015 - Minn. DNR adds 6 new Fire Boss airplanes to aerial firefighting fleet Aviation eBrief Minn. DNR adds 6 new Fire Boss airplanes to aerial firefighting fleet | Aviation business teaches customers to convert Corvair automobile engines for aviation use | High school aviation program enters final stretch to complete airplane build project Created for pkengr at hotmail.com | Web Version April 6, 2015 ? News for and about the general aviation community SIGN UP|FORWARD|ARCHIVE|JOIN AOPA News of the dayAdvertisement Minn. DNR adds 6 new Fire Boss airplanes to aerial firefighting fleet The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has added six new single-seat Fire Boss airplanes to its aerial firefighting fleet. The agency formerly had two 1950s Bombardier CL-215 airplanes but it was becoming increasingly difficult to find parts to maintain them. Dry, windy conditions across the state have resulted in an increase in wildfires; DNR Wildfire Suppression Supervisor Ron Stoffel said crews had responded to 50 or 60 different fires last Thursday alone. The Forum (Fargo, N.D.-Moorhead, Minn.) (free registration) (4/5) Share: Aviation Friendly Life Insurance at Better Rates. Pilots are paying too much in premiums for less life insurance coverage just because of aviation. Are you paying too much for the wrong life policy? The Pilot Insurance Center knows aviation life underwriting and which policy is best for your aviation ratings and activities. Let us get you a fast and easy quote for better coverage. Visit ? piclife.com Aviation UpdateAdvertisement Aviation business teaches customers to convert Corvair automobile engines for aviation use For most of his career, Bill Clapp has worked in car restoration while designing and building airplanes was a hobby. Two and a half years ago, he opened Azalea Aviation, offering engines taken from Chevrolet Corvairs and converting them to be used in airplanes. The company will also teach customers how to convert a Corvair engine themselves. The Valdosta Daily Times (Ga.) (4/5) Share: High school aviation program enters final stretch to complete airplane build project Students in the aviation program at Denbigh High School in Newport News, Va., are entering the final stretch of a two-year project to build an RV-12 aircraft. Academy Director Aaron Smith said the airplane won't be completed by the end of this school year as they'd hoped, but it will be completed in the fall. The Washington Post (tiered subscription model)/The Associated Press (4/4) Share: Other News Video: Students across the country prep for Red Bull Paper Wings competition KSBW-TV (Salinas, Calif.) (4/3) Share: Download your free copy of NBAA's Federal Excise Taxes Guide. This free guide has everything you need to know about FET, including in the areas of domestic segment fees, possession, command and control, IRS legal interpretations, and much more! ReadbackAdvertisement What?s your favorite part of airshows and fly-ins? Check out poll results in Wednesday's eBrief. The results from the poll questions in Aviation eBrief do not necessarily represent the views of pilots, aircraft owners or AOPA members and therefore should not be used for research purposes. Looking at airplanes Educational seminars Hanging out with other pilots Other $100 Cash Rewards Bonus Offer with the AOPA BankAmericard Cash Rewards? Card.Earn cash back on everyday purchases, including Aviation Fuel with the AOPA BankAmericard Cash Rewards? credit card. Get a $100 cash rewards bonus after qualifying purchases. For details, click on the link above. Airport FocusAdvertisement Private-public partnership spurs growth at Fort Worth Alliance Airport Since Fort Worth Alliance Airport in Texas opened in 1989, thanks to a partnership among the city, the Federal Aviation Administration and Ross Perot Jr.'s Hillwood real estate investment firm, the airport has been growing. It has added a rail terminal, an aviation learning center and buildings that house call centers and retail offices. The 18,000-acre airport also has had a $55 billion economic impact on the region, said Tom Harris, president of Alliance Air/Aviation Services. AOPA Online (3/10) Share: BRG Premium ANR Aviation Headset ? $299.00 ? Auto-power on/off (no need to remind passengers to turn their headset On or Off), great noise reduction, gold plated frame, cloth covered foam and gel ear pads, phone interface, fully
KR> Subject: center spar analysis
I checked my work in the morning!! The real answere is...I=66.7 in4 (2774.3cm4) so Z= 25.7 in3 (421.1cm3) does this sound more resonable? Pete Original Message - From: Pete and Karen Gauthier<mailto:gauthier0421 at msn.com> To: krnet at list.krnet.org<mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:10 PM Subject: Subject: KR> center spar analysis Has anyone tried computing the section modulus of the front center spar? I should probably wait until tomorrow to check my work but I get I=36.7 in4 (152.7cm4). Z = I/c so Z= 10.2in3 (41.5cm3). I used dimensions from my CAD drawings and they are before any trimming for the airfoil but I think the difference is insignificant. Are these numbers close to what you got? Do I need to go back and do it over? Pete
KR> Subject: center spar analysis
Has anyone tried computing the section modulus of the front center spar? I should probably wait until tomorrow to check my work but I get I=36.7 in4 (152.7cm4). Z = I/c so Z= 10.2in3 (41.5cm3). I used dimensions from my CAD drawings and they are before any trimming for the airfoil but I think the difference is insignificant. Are these numbers close to what you got? Do I need to go back and do it over? Pete
KR> FW: KRnet archive donation request
From: pkengr at hotmail.com To: ml at n56ml.com Subject: RE: KR> KRnet archive donation request List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:32:36 -0500 Sent @25.00. Well worth it for the info this site has provided for me. Pete Klapp > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:31:50 -0600 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> KRnet archive donation request > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > KRnetHeads, > > Tom Tugan, the guy who saved the KRnet Search Engine from extinction > when Rick Maddy was no longer able to support it without a major rework, > is working to restore it back to service. He's run out of space on > whatever service he's using, and and is cleaning house trying to make > enough room to get it back up again. I asked if it was time for a round > of donations, and his reply was something like "that would help > determine how and if I can manage enough disk space to continue". I > sent him $100 through PayPal (he's at tugantek at yahoo.com), and encourage > others to send something as well. The built-in MailMan archive is > almost useless by comparison. The Search Engine allows you to filter > several ways, including the sender, date, subject, keywords...all that > kind of stuff. > > If everybody on the list could send Tom $5 or so (although I know that's > not going to happen), it would help incentivize a solution to the lack > of a search engine. If you don't have a Paypal account, you can send a > check to me at 296 Taylor Denton Lane, Harvest, AL 35749 and I'll pass > on the $. > > Thanks for helping to support a very useful KRnet resource > -- > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> project update
Bob I also I'm using capacitance probes from Centroid. I have 40" long probes that bend 85 deg just after the sensor head. They were built to be able to bend there. I had to make a bending tool to make a tight radius. They mount thru the top of the tank and slip into a piece of I/2" slotted pvc pipe supported by bracket mounted inside my alum 12 gallon wing tanks. The pvc pipe prevents the probe from touching any part of the tank. Some of the fuel monitor gages, such as the "glass panels" ie. Dynon, MGL, etc have the ability to preset capacitance values to certain tank levels setting up a curve to approximate actual tank levels. I had my probes built with low level alarms that hopefully will prevent the possibility of running out of fuel. Pete Klapp, Canton, OH > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:48:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> project update > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > or just buy a precise fuel totalizer! a far better system, which even shows > GPM, etc. > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:14:37 -0600 > > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Subject: Re: KR> project update > > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > > > > > how to use capacitance probes for my wing tanks without placing > > > them in the tanks. > > > > ++ > > > > Robert, > > > > The only possibility I can envision is to have a stand pipe inside > > the cockpit , connected to the tank , where the level of fuel in the > > standpipe follows the level in the wing. In that case, why not just > > use a site gauge. I have 7 foot long probes in my wing tanks running > > from root to tip of the outer wing panel. Because the tank thickness > > changes from root to tip, they are not linear. For wing tanks where > > the wing has dihedral there is no perfect system, floats or > > otherwise. Know what fuel you start with, know your fuel burn, and > > watch the clock. > > > > Larry Flesner > > P.S. for Robert. I'll be in Nashville on occasion as my daughter is > > moving there next month. I'd like to visit your project and promise > > not to track dirt into your sterile workshop. :-) > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > > options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> nV | Aero back online
Welcome back, Steve > To: alexptx at gmail.com; krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:30:06 +0100 > Subject: Re: KR> nV | Aero back online > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Great news! Steve welcom back. > > -- > Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see > http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 > > > > > >Origineel Bericht > >Van : krnet at list.krnet.org > >Datum : 12/01/2015 20:23 > >Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org > >Onderwerp : KR> nV | Aero back online > > > >i am happy to point out that nV|Aero is back online. Please read under the > >section Recent Updates about Parts and Plans Availability. > > > >Thank you Steve for your continued support of the community! > > > >Alex Pearson > >San Antonio, TX > >___ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > >To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > >options > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Gear Legs
This thread started as a request for the dimensions for the Diehl legs. The Rand Robinson Engineering legs being replaced are 7075 aluminum, very similar to the one Steve just described and the mount/bracket is cast aluminum (very stout cast aluminum). The legs angle out at 22 deg. (not much angle) and the asssembly is very stiff. The test pilot commented on the stiffnes during taxi testying and after the first flight. I like the Diehl design and since they are not available and I have the Grummen legs, I thought I could mix and match to come up with something that will work. I am a "that's close enough" Engineer but when I can, I like to do some analysis as a guessing gage. I am comfortable with the assumption that the Diehl and grummen legs are very similar material. What I don't know, and accept that I will probably cannot know, is the orientation and stack pattern of each. If there is a 25% difference in the thickness , that is substancial and needs to be considered. BUT I have no idea because I don't know the dimensions of the Diehl gear. Does anyone have a set they can measure? I will really appreciate knowing shape and size of the Diehl leg. Legless in Oregon. AKA Pete Gauthier
KR> fletchair gear legs
Thanks Peter, I have a set of these legs and I heard that someone has done just as you suggested, cut them in half, but I don't know how that worked out. They are 1" thick. I don't think it would be good practice to reduce the thikness not having any information on the stacking and I'm afraid without reducing the thickness the section will not be stable in torsion if the width is reduced enough to make the leg flex accepable for my plane. That is why I'm looking into the Diehl leg which has been shown to work well on KRs. That said, the Cheetah legs may work just fine, I haven't given up on them. Pete Gauthier - Original Message - From: peter<mailto:jordanruthseto at aol.com> To: krnet at list.krnet.org<mailto:krnet at list.krnet.org> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: KR> fletchair gear legs The legs ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/261255232240?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649<http://www.ebay.com/itm/261255232240?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649> ) are designed for an aircraft with a gross weight of 2400lbs. Cutting them in half would give a design gross weight of 1200lbs, but reduce twisting resistance. They are 261/2 long. Peter
KR> KR2S supplement
Steve Don't let the Beavis and Buttheads of the world diminish what the rest of us know about your worth to the KR community. So do the Marine thing "adapt and overcome", we REALLY need to have you amongst us. Best to you, Pete Klapp > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:56:27 -0500 > To: n925sg at gmail.com; krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> KR2S supplement > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Steve, > > I am so very sorry to hear that you have had another customer that has > pushed you over the edge. I sent you a private email asking you to > hang in there a few weeks back. Honestly it is pretty self serving on > my part to ask you to do so. My Wife's Cancer and treatments are taking > up all spare time and honestly cash, so even the relatively small amount > for plans is not in my budget right now. Priorities are what they are > and next year in the summer may be a go, not now. > > There will always be jerks, impatient children who have never been told no, > and honestly those looking for a free handout.So for those of us > who appreciate your very hard work, contributions, and sacrifice to make > this little plane a realityThank You. > > So please hang in there and this summer I plan on sending you a check for > the full amount of plans, supplement, shipping etc. for some KR2S plans. > > Secondly if you have appreciated Steve and his work in the KR community > give him a shout out! > > Thanks again, > > Michael > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Steve G. via KRnet > wrote: > > > I told him the refund was no problem. Interestingly, he said he had kr2 > > plans so I recently told him he probably just needed the supplement. Now he > > asks if someone would be so kind as to scan and provide the 2S drawings for > > "review" he will be all set. > > > > It is in fact my goal to sell nothing so I can freely support all KR > > builders and provide them with all our technical info. Then you all can > > build all our components. I'm done with it. I quit. Current orders will > > be filled then doors are closed. Good luck! > > > > Steve Glover > > > > Sent from my iPhone 6 > > > > > On Oct 11, 2014, at 19:48, Mark Langford via KRnet > > list.krnet.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > Gary Wold wrote: > > > > > > After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes > > from Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion that > > Nvaero is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with me. I > > requested they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess I'll find > > something else to build.Please go back to the archive (URL is listed at the > > bottom of every KRnet email) and search for nvAero, and you'll find this > > same thread from about two months ago. KR plans delivery is not something > > Steve has control over. I assure you if he could get them to you, he > > would have done it long ago... > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Mark Langford > > > ML at N56ML.com > > > http://www.n56ml.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to > > change options > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > > options > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: belly board installation in N891JF
Netters If you pull the hinge pin, reverse the leaf and re-install the pin, it lines up with the underside of the speed brake panel and doesn't require a shim on the other hinge leaf. I used 0.125 6061T6 aluminum for speed brake, 9x30", powered by a 6" linear actuator. Will deploy to appox. 80 degrees. Pete Klapp, building N729PK, Canton, Ohio > To: flesner at frontier.com; krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:42:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> belly board installation in N891JF > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Well, since we are doing belly boards ( speed brake ) here is another one. > I modeled this after Mark Jones' installation. > > http://krbuilder.org/BellyBoard/index.html > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN > > Best Interior and Panel at 2008 ? KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> THANKS STEVE
Steve Just a quick note the thank You, Kiku, Eric, Marc and Richard for all your hard work putting together this year's Gathering. You really set the bar pretty high for the folks at McMinnville next year The workshops were a great addition and really provided those just entering the KR world some good tips. Once again, thanks for all you did to make this Gathering a success. Pete Klapp
KR> KR2 plans required
Hennie Each set of plans whether sold by Jeanette Rand or Steve Glover have a serial number specific to that builder. When I acquired my partial project, I called Jeanette and had that serial number transferred to me. If you make up a serial number, it might have already been assigned to someone else's project. Check with Steve, he may be able to transfer it to you. Pete Klapp, building N729PK, Canton, Ohio > To: Hennie.vanRooyen at exxaro.com; krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:38:01 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> KR2 plans required > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > make up your own > > > -Original Message- > From: Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream] via KRnet > To: KRnet > Sent: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 2:38 am > Subject: KR> KR2 plans required > > > Hi everyone, > > I purchased a semi completed KR2S without any plans. In order to register it, > I > need a new set of plans with a serial number. Can anyone give me a direct > link > to the best place I should purchase plans for it. I am from South Africa. > > Kind regards, > > Hennie van Rooyen > > > This e-mail is confidential and is for the addressee only. > Please refer to http://www.exxaro.com/content/main/disclaimer.asp for > important > disclaimers. > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: Elevator trim hinge
Paul I should have also mentioned that I used the brass tube inside another brass tube as my hinge. Not sure if the larger was 1/4" ID or OD, but I found two that slipped together perfectly with only a couple of thousands clearance like Ken's plans call for. I' they can find the correct pieces for you. If not, call me at 330-388-2074, I'll get them for you and mail them to you. Pete Klapp > To: ppaulvsk at aol.com; krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:36:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator trim hinge > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > > > > > > PaulContact AeroTech hobby shop, 902 N. Main, North Canton, OH 44720. > 330-499-1300.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, OH > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:57 -0500 > > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge > > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > > > > Does anyone have a source for some 1/4" tubing and the rod that goes into > > it for the hinge on the elivator trim tab. I"ve looked in some hobby > > stores. But all I can find is 5/32" with a rod that would fit into it. The > > plans call for 1/4". > > > > Paul Visk > > Belleville Il > > 618 406 4705 > > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > > options > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Elevator trim hinge
PaulContact AeroTech hobby shop, 902 N. Main, North Canton, OH 44720. 330-499-1300.Pete Klapp, building N729PK,Canton, OH > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:57 -0500 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> Elevator trim hinge > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > > Does anyone have a source for some 1/4" tubing and the rod that goes into it > for the hinge on the elivator trim tab. I"ve looked in some hobby stores. But > all I can find is 5/32" with a rod that would fit into it. The plans call > for 1/4". > > Paul Visk > Belleville Il > 618 406 4705 > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: Skyview Installation
Dan / Mark After some thought, I could mount it on a small platform (3/32 ply) glued to the upper aft fuselage horizontal braces behind the left seat. I'll have to relocate the transponder antenna which is presently located there. But that can be mounted most anywhere. Possibly further aft. Is there a required distance between my comm antenna which is in the leading edge of the vert stab and the transponder antenna? I am also installing a backup airspeed indicator. Should I use a separate pitot system for the ASI and the ADAHRS? Pete > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:25:06 -040ere > Subject: Re: KR> FW: Skyview Installation > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > I installed my Dynon ADAHRS behind the seat under the shelf. I made a > bracket that I can slide it into, and bolt it down. If you like, I will get > some pics for you on that installation. I know that some of the RV guys > install it in the wing. > > > > See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > the pics > > > > Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > Dan / Mark > > Having install a Skyview / MGL Explorer in your KR's, I'm hoping you can > answer some questions for me: > > where did you mount the ADAHRS? > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> FW: Skyview Installation
From: pkengr at hotmail.com To: danrh at alltel.net; ml at n56ml.com Subject: Skyview Installation List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:12:43 -0400 Dan / Mark Having install a Skyview / MGL Explorer in your KR's, I'm hoping you can answer some questions for me: where did you mount the ADAHRS? I was thinking of fwd of the panel, but Dynon tech says it will be problematic. He suggested in the aft fuselage, but that's where my ELT, transponder and comm antennas are. I could move the transponder antenna to one of the wings. Any help would be appreciated Pete Klapp
KR> FW: Hotel Information for the KR Gathering September 5 - September 7, 2014
Lee Here's info that Marc Baca posted this week as to the hotel reservations at Chino. I guess more info will follow as it is finalized. Pete Klapp > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:44:17 -0700 > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Hotel Information for the KR Gathering September 5 - > September 7, 2014 > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > I forgot to mention that we must reserve rooms by August 22, 2014 or the > rooms will be released. > > Marc Baca > > > > On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:28 PM, Marc Baca via KRnet list.krnet.org> wrote: > > > > Hello KR Netters; > > Below is hotel information which has offered a group rate discount for > participants of the 2014 KR Gathering. > > Chino Hills Hotel > 1. 433 Fairfield Ranch Rd, Chino Hills, CA 91709 > Phone:(909) 606-5995 > > Block rate is $58 per night. This is a clean, newer property and only about > 8 minutes from Chino airport. There are plenty of restaurants close by > just one exit up the 71 Freeway. Be sure to mention the KR Gathering for the > group rate. Standard rates are $80 ? $90 per night otherwise. > > > Marc Baca > Chino, CA > N31SB > N13UG > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> identify this brake cylinder?
To: krnet at list.krnet.org List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 05:40:30 -0500 Subject: KR> identify this brake cylinder? From: krnet at list.krnet.org Mark These brake cylinders look very similar to the lower portion of the Rosenhan cylinders I have except that mine have the reservoir cast with the piston. The castings are very similar, ie. the port, the mount pivot and overall shape. Yours must have a remote reservoir higher on the firewall to feed both brakes.I agree that the piston needs to be really extended to get them to bleed out any air, to the point where the upper O-ring is almost exposed. Tricky procedure to do by yourself.Hope this helpsPete Klapp Can anybody identify the brake cylinder shown in the enclosed photo? It's a half-inch diameter (unfortunately), and I'm not so sure it's at the top of its game, despite my "rebuild job", cleaning it out, blowing out the passages, and putting in new o-rings. In my first taxi test, I quickly discovered no brakes on the right side. It's not developing pressure at all, and I'm pretty sure there's no air in the line. I'm trying to figure out the internal workings, check valve wise. I'd rather take a serious beating that have to remove this thing, especially with the panel in place. Come to think of it, that's what it'll be...a serious beating, but that may have to happen before I can fly it. Condition inspection is done, so now it's the brakes... Thanks, Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Midwest kr2 owners
John I'll be at Sun-n-Fun from Tues @noon till Thursday evening. Call my cell 330-388-2074 and I'll take a look at it. I'm building a wider, longer version of a KR-2S, about 80% done. Are there any others KR Netters headed to S-n-F this year? Call and we can get together for a beer or dinner.Pete Klapp, Canton, OH > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:00:37 -0400 > From: sickafoose33 at gmx.com > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Midwest kr2 owners > > Hello KR netters. > I'm a volunteer with Sun-n-Fun and we're preparing for our big show next week. > I recently became aware that a KR-2 that had been in the museum here has > been removed from there and it is planned to be sold thru the 'parts mart' > here. > > I believe this plane to be Bob Muses old KR. There is no N number on it, so > tracing it may be difficult. > > The KR has a VW engine and rests on Deihl gear with a tail wheel. > It apprears to be in undamaged condition and may make someone an excellent > starter plane. > > Perhaps some one from the KR-net may be come and see it and offer more input > than I have here. > > John Sickafoose > > - Original Message - > From: Larry Flesner > Sent: 03/27/14 06:08 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Midwest kr2 owners > > At 05:19 AM 3/27/2014, you wrote: >I am located just west of indianapolis > indiana. + Dan, You have one KR builder in > Indy ___ Search the KRnet > Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from > KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet > info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> WING SKIN
Bonding aluminium is a black art. Gary Morgan has already pretty well built an aluminium KR. He now sells them here in Au. Peter Bancks On 04/03/14 23:03, ol' weirdo wrote: > >From a fringer. > > Has anyone skinned the wing of his KR with aluminum sheet glued to the foam > the way titan build their wings? > > Bill Weir > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> FW: Epoxy Toxicity
From: pkengr at hotmail.com To: minskeep1 at gmail.com; corvaircraft at mylist.net Subject: Epoxy Toxicity List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:58:43 -0400 Mike I saw your email that you are selling your KR project. You mentioned that you had inboard and tail skins as part of what your are selling. If those skins are the ones that are made using a honeycomb core instead of a foam core like the outboard Diehl skins, please tell the buyer to protect himself from the dust as well as the wet resin. I had a reaction when I got the dust on the back of my hands while I was drilling holes thru a rib made with the honeycomb / prepreg resin fiberglass. l had a terrible rash from head to toe. When I talked to Dan Diehl about it, thinking that I had a reaction to the vinylester resin, he told me that it WAS the epoxy prepreg that the inboard skins had been made with, NOT the vinylester, that caused it. Jeanette Rand had them made in California by a local company. No idea what brand of resin was used.Dan Diehl recommended that any future on my project that I wear a Tyvek suit, nitrile gloves, and full face respirator. I'm also going to use "Invisible Glove #5215", available at Aircraft Spruce, on my hands, arms and face as added protection. I plan on finishing my project and flying it next year.Sorry to hear that you are selling your project. Thought I should pass that on to you and your buyer. Pete Klapp, building n729PK,Canton, Ohio
KR> West Coast KR Gathering 2014 ??
Marc I don't need much of an excuse to go anywhere concerning aircraft or KR's. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S n729PK, Canton, Ohio > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:43:15 -0700 > From: mbflys at yahoo.com > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> West Coast KR Gathering 2014 ?? > > I live in Los Angeles. > > Suppose we endeavored to host a gathering out here. How many of you would > consider coming to Los Angeles for a KR convention? > > Just wondering .. (for now). > > Marc Baca > Chino, CA > > > > > > From: Oscar Zuniga > To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" > Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:01 AM > Subject: KR> KR Gathering 2014 > > > So... I thought at one point Steve Glover from NVAero had talked about > hosting the Gathering, but over here on the West coast? It is the home of > the KR, after all. > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> No support group
Gary I'll take care of hot dogs, kraut, etc. Take care of your family. We'll keep a good thought for you. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S n729PK, Canton, OH > From: djgarylynn at verizon.net > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:09:47 -0400 > Subject: KR> No support group > > To All, > > My mother in-law is failing so we must return to the homestead. > There is no support group for this, sorry Mark. > > Luv you people, have a great time. learn lots, and make > new life time friends. > > I have questions on questions that need answers but > life calls. I will be thinking about you everyone.. > > My friend Ivan, who is a X2 cancer survivor was going to > fly me out in his new Glasair was understanding. > This was going to be "OUR great adventure." > > No Mustard butter, dogs, kraut > > Gary > > Have a root beer for me > There is always next year > > Larry remove Gary and Ivan from PA > Thank you > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> N424DG first flight YouTube link
Following is a link to the YouTube video of Peterbuilt1, N424DG's first flight 1st Flight of the PeterBuilt1 - KR2<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn97mad7138> Notice no float on the landing. Ed reports the flaps are very effective, he expected to float way down the runway as fast as he was. I think the combination of flaps and the extended gear legs work together to reduce float (it's my story and I'll tell it any way I want). Taxi visibility is bad but it sure looks cool. Thanks KRnet for all the great discussions and ideas! I'm going to try to make the gathering but it doesn't look like it'll be this year. Pete Gauthier KR Builder Woodburn OR
KR> First Flight
N424DG is no longer a hanger Queen! I want to thank Ed Stepec, a fellow EAAer and former KR Owner. He did the taxi testing and flew the first flight of N424DG this evening. from the ground it was a perfect take off and a perfect landing. It was a short flight, only 10 minutes but he reported all gages in the green and never touched the trim. There is a problem, I think in the static system, because the VSI showed 2000 ft. per min climb in level flight and airspeed was 130 mph on final so he flew the plane not the gages. He was impressed and I am relieved (and a proud parent). Great job Ed and thank you. Pete Gauthier KR builder Woodburn, OR.
KR> carb temp sensor
Gary / Charlie Thanks for your assistance. That's the post I was looking for. Pete Klapp
KR> (no subject)
Netters Does anyone remember a recent post on making a carb throat temp sensor from a digital thermometer. I believe the user had it installed on a Marvel carb. One sensor was installed / epoxied into a hollow bolt and screwed into the carb venturi in an existing threaded hole. The other sensor for OAT was made from modified sensor inside the digital readout. The post included instructions for the modifictions. I have searched the achives, but have not had ant luck finding the post. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance help. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, OH
KR> Re: antenna length
Mark / Netters My antenna is a twin to what you bulit. The top half of the dipole is under the glass in the vert stabalizer. The lower half is inside the section of plastic wire mold and mounted in a straight line with the other half of the dipole in as vertical a line as possible. I have three toroid baluns on the coax at the point of connection like yours and held with heat shrink. I did cut the coax at a multiple of 20.3" when terminating it at the comm radio. I also added an additional grounding sheath over the coax as suggested by Joe Horton and grounded it only at one end at the panel. I can clearly hear Akron-Canton tower and approach / departure frequencies, but an unable to contact them for a radio check. That may be due to the fact that they have a much more powerful transmitter and I'm trying to reach them with only 4 to 5 watts and located in my basement workshop. I going to leave things as they are for now and work on other things. I'll wait till the plane is out of my work shop to continue testing. Thanks to all that provided help and some good laughs. Maybe I have the flux transducer thingy in backwards. Pete Klapp > From: m...@n56ml.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:43:45 -0500 > Subject: KR> Re: antenna length > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > >>I've read Glenn Martin's explanation for the 20.3" antenna length that you > >>used. I have no knowledge on this subject, so I'll just follow these > >>recommendations. I do have another question. Did you cut the coax to a > >>multiple of the wavelength?<< > > I did cut mine to a multiple of 20.3, and I also used the toroidal baluns > that Jim Weir recommends. I also have a friend that's an electrical engineer > and HAM radio buff drop by and check the SWR, and he said it was > perfect..."don't change a thing". > > The range of my radio is nothing short of awesome. I routinely hear > communications from 200 miles out, and have talked several times with Joe > Horton at ranges in the 175 mile range. That aint bad for a homemade antenna > made of copper foil... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> antenna length
Mark / Netters I'm just getting back to this antenna thing. I was out west in Montana for several weeks. I've read Glenn Martin's explanation for the 20.3" antenna length that you used. I have no knowledge on this subject, so I'll just follow these recommendations. I do have another question. Did you cut the coax to a multiple of the wavelength? 20.3" times "X" prior to terminating the coax with a BNC connector at the comm radio? Any assistance greatly appreciated. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, OH
KR> comm antenna 1/4 wave length
Mark /Netters On your web site, you list the length of each leg of your dipole at 20.3". I went to an online site that will calculate the needed length , www.onlineconversion.com/frequency_wavelength.htm. Their conversion formula gives a length range of 25.0" at 118 MHz to 22.0" at 134 MHz. The range of frequencies in the Cleveland-Akron-Canton area run from 118 to 135 MHz. An average / mid range would be about 126 MHz which would be a 1/4 wavelength antenna of 23.4inches. How did you arrive at 20.3"? Did I make a mistake somewhere? Has anyone else used another method or published table to get the antenna length? Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK' Canton, OH
KR> Re:6
Mark Can we UNSCRIBE the individual that keeps posting links for Canadian med sales? Pete Klapp, Canton,Ohio > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:50:10 -0700 > From: earlbe...@att.net > Subject: Re: KR> Re:6 > To: lt1corve...@earthlink.net; kr...@mylist.net > CC: > > > > > > > > From: Neal <lt1corve...@earthlink.net> > To: jeffjones...@yahoo.com; jnorri...@yahoo.com; lnico...@aol.com; > joe2387...@gmail.com; hmst...@yahoo.com; jhorn...@suddenlink.net; > jwise...@whiteallen.dealercrm.com; kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com; kr...@mylist.net > Sent: Fri, September 30, 2011 3:28:23 PM > Subject: KR> Re:6 > > Aloha State, > http://teste.colegiovascodagama.net/index101ww--.php?jhotmailID=51py > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Manifold Pressure
I'm getting close, I might be able to make the next gathering. right now I have another question. I am installing a manifold pressure gage and would like some suggestions for locating the source. I have the HAPI intake ducts with an aerocarb. I am considering welding (or brazing) a half couple to the intake tubing but where? Thanks, Pete Gauthier Woodburn OR
KR> VW dip stick
I have a HAPI 1835 with a Rand Cowl. The dip stick is easily accessible through the air intake but it cannot be removed without removing the top of the cowl. How do those that are flying VW access the dip stick. do you Modify the dipstick, cut a door in the cowl, remove the cowl? Any adverse affects from cutting the dip stick tube? Thanks, Pete Gauthier Woodburn OR
KR> Gathering
Netters Thanks again to Larry Flesner and the airport gang for yet another GREAT GATHERING. I'm renewed with energy to push even harder to complete my plane ASAP. Gary, Ron, Frank and self arrived home about 8:00 PM. No problems on the way home. Thanks again to all, Pete Klapp, Canton, OH > From: m...@n56ml.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> Gathering > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:49:32 -0500 > > Yep, another great Gathering.
KR> Wick's at KR Gathering
KR Gathering attendees I just spoke with Eric at Wicks. They will have someone delivering orders to us at Mt Vernon on Friday morning about 9:30 AM. If you need something and want to save the shipping,place your order now and specify that you would like it delivered to the Gathering. I'll be arriving tomorrow afternoon. Looking forward to seeing everyone. ONLY HOURS NOW!!! Pete Klapp, Canton, OH > From: djgaryl...@verizon.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> Wick's at KR Gathering > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:35:42 -0400 > > I will be picking up my wood for my KR > on the 19th after the Gathering been waiting for this > for 8 years finally "A TIME TO BUILD" > > perhaps he could bring it along I'll email him > > Gary Robison > > > - Original Message - > From: <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com> > To: <fles...@frontier.com>; <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:39 PM > Subject: KR> Wick's at KR Gathering > > > > Hey Guys,This got thought about a little to late but I spoke with Scott > > Wick today about them coming to the KR Gathering this weekend and to be > > able to bring along any orders folks may have. He was going to call me > > back when He found someone to drive in for us and as of 4:30 pm Eastern I > > have not heard back. Maybe if you have an order you were going to place > > with Wick's anyway you could place the order and in special instructions > > mark to be delivered to the KR Gathering in care of Mount Veron Il. This > > Saturday. If he gets more than my order it may help get them to > > attend.Thanks,Joe Horton,Coopersburg, PA. > > > > 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 > > Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e6fbf7b286494est02duc > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > - > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11 > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Judges
Bob I can out judge you any day. (hiccup !!) Driver, take me drunk, I think I'm Home !!! > From: glid...@ccrtc.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> Judges > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:11:21 -0400 > > You see Larry that is what I was talking about all Pete thinks about is root > beer and I'm not sure he can think clearly.. > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of Pete Klapp > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:06 PM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> Judges > > > Better double the rootbeer order just in case > > > > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:42:24 -0400 > > From: car...@ptd.net > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Subject: Re: KR> Judges > > CC: > > > > I can see that this years gathering is going to get totally out of > > hand. Just sayin > > > > > > On 8/14/2011 3:06 PM, Bob Glidden wrote: > > > Now wait Larry you said the next judge was up to me. I would really like > to > > > be a little more selective then Pete Klapp. Just sayin... > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On > Behalf > > > Of Larry Flesner > > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:56 PM > > > To: KRnet > > > Subject: RE: KR> Judges > > > > > > At 09:00 PM 8/13/2011, you wrote: > > >> I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes. > > >> Pete Klapp > > > > > > > > > THANKS, PETE. YOU'RE IN... > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Judges
Better double the rootbeer order just in case > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:42:24 -0400 > From: car...@ptd.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> Judges > CC: > > I can see that this years gathering is going to get totally out of > hand. Just sayin > > > On 8/14/2011 3:06 PM, Bob Glidden wrote: > > Now wait Larry you said the next judge was up to me. I would really like to > > be a little more selective then Pete Klapp. Just sayin... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > > Of Larry Flesner > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:56 PM > > To: KRnet > > Subject: RE: KR> Judges > > > > At 09:00 PM 8/13/2011, you wrote: > >> I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes. > >> Pete Klapp > > > > > > THANKS, PETE. YOU'RE IN... > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Judges
I'll gouge out one eye, but that's all!!! Pete > From: m...@n56ml.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> Judges > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:06:52 -0500 > > Pete Klapp wrote: > > >>I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes. > > We need at least one blind guy on the panel of judges...who can't see jack, > and has very little sense of feel, and can't smell the difference in 6-old > primer and fresh paint. I'm thinking total vegetable here. Then the > playing field would be "even", and I might have a chance at winning > something! > > Oh, wait...I've got it...we need a "BEST SUNSET PHOTO FROM A KR" category. > I might have a prayer on that one! Got a nice one tonight, by complete > coincidence. See the top photo at http://www.n56ml.com/sunsets/ . Just > another typical 21 minute KR flight around the patch... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Judges
Larry I'll volunteer to help Bob and Mike judge airplanes. Pete Klapp > From: glid...@ccrtc.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:03:33 -0400 > Subject: KR> Judges > > Larry I will be there on Thursday and would be interested in judging the > airplanes for you.. > > > > Bob Glidden > > CX4 #328 > > Eminence, Indiana > > glid...@ccrtc.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Fuel tank probes
Tried sending this to Larry Flesner privately, but it bounced back as undeliverable. So here goes via the KRnet --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: pke...@hotmail.com To: fles...@verizon.net Subject: Fuel tank probes List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:59:54 -0400 Larry I think I remember that you posted an email about fuel tank probes that were 3 to 4 foot in length that could be fastened diagonally along the tank from highest point at the outboard tip to the low point at the inboard end. I also remember this probe mounted within a perforated tube support. Does this ring any bells? I tried searching the archives, but no luck. I'm trying to locate a source for this type of probe and then hopefully, find a fuel gauge that will be compatible with the signal output of the probe. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Pete Klapp P.S. Are you going to Oshkosh?
KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story
Netters When I was building the boat for my KR-2S, I first fabricated the side truss sections as detailed in the plans, although mine are longer since I used all 14' of the longeron material rather than cutting them to 12'-2" per plan. When it came to installing the mahogany ply, I first set up a series of temporary vertical 1/2" bulkheads centered along a centerline on the work table. They were the width that the fuselage would be at that specific point. They were positioned to meet the trusses at station points along the trusses. I then prepared the skins, scarfing the joints as needed, marked the truss outline on the ply skins, applied the epoxy and stapled them in place as detailed in the instructions. I then clamped the truss / ply skin assemblies to the temporary bulkheads while the epoxy was still wet and allowed to cure. They were easily pulled into position using Pony pipe clamps along the curve edge of the truss and blocks and wedges along the straight edge (top of the truss) which is down against the flat surface of the work table. When done, they had the curve already in them. By doing it this way, you don't have the stress of the 5/8" longeron fighting the skin when you try to shape the fuselage. I must also point out that I built my fuselage with vertical sides, but I'm pretty sure you could use this method when building the "banana" style fuselage as well. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, OH If you have any questions, contact me off list at pke...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: KR> Progress Report & Another Cracked Longeron Story > From: gun...@online.no > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:57:47 +0200 > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Sorry, but I don't have a good solution for replacing the longerons, but I > can show you why you have the cracks in the place you have them. > > >
KR> camping at Oshkosh
Bob Most of the KR builders will be at the KR forum at 1:00PM on Monday. Stop by. We still like you even though you've gone over to the darker aluminum side!! Pete > From: glid...@ccrtc.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> camping at Oshkosh > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:32:42 -0400 > > Sweet I would like to get whoever wants to come over for a cook out Monday > evening..let me know we can burn some burgers and brats and have a couple > root beers, I will be there starting Saturday the 23rd. > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of Pete Klapp > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:50 PM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> camping at Oshkosh > > > Bob > I will be camping in Scholler from Monday, July 25th thru Sunday, July 31st > Pete Klapp > > > > From: glid...@ccrtc.com > > To: lah...@yahoo.com; kr...@mylist.net > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:19:48 -0400 > > CC: > > Subject: KR> camping at Oshkosh > > > > Are you camping in or out of Oshkosh...we will be at fondulac again this > > year... > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> camping at Oshkosh
Bob I will be camping in Scholler from Monday, July 25th thru Sunday, July 31st Pete Klapp > From: glid...@ccrtc.com > To: lah...@yahoo.com; kr...@mylist.net > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:19:48 -0400 > CC: > Subject: KR> camping at Oshkosh > > Are you camping in or out of Oshkosh...we will be at fondulac again this > year... > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> EAA Chapter 82 Annual Grass Roots Fly-in
KRnet and Corvaircraft Members This email is to outline our upcoming "EAA 82 Annual Grass Roots Fly-in" on July 9th and 10th. We will be displaying antique aircraft such as Aeroncas, Funks and Taylorcrafts as well as the Corvair powered KR-2S's of Mark Langford and Joe Horton. We also have a Fleet, a Pietenpol and a magnificent scratch built Waco 9 on the field. Roy Szarafinski will be there and can assist builders in checking components for the Corvair flight engines. He will also have one of his CNC machined "Fifth Bearings" on display. I will have my completed and test run my 2700 Corvair engine for my KR-2S on display. During our fly-in, there will be a recap of John Glenn's solo flight on May 1, 1941 at New Philadelphia (Clever Field), Ohio. We will have the first Taylorcraft Model "A" from July 7, 1936 on display as a tribute to Taylorcrafts built here in Alliance, Ohio. Some of preliminary activities for the early participants will be a pizza party and hangar stories on Thursday evening and a fish fry on Friday. There will be a pancake breakfast hosted by EAA 82 on Saturday and Sunday from 7 to 11 AM and lunch on Saturday from noon to 2 PM. The local Corvair club will have numerous restored Corvairs on display. They have proved to be a great source for Corvair engines to rebuild. My second core came from one of their members with only 45,000 miles on it for $60 ! Members from the local PRA #19 rotorcraft club will also have some of their projects on display. The fly-in will be at Barber Airport (2D1), Alliance, Ohio. The field is located about 3 miles north of Alliance on route #225. If you need any additional info or have any questions, you can contact me @ 330-388-2074 or Ron Willet @ 330-314-0075. Come join us for some "plane" fun. For those who missed Corvair College #20, it's a chance to see from Corvair powered aircraft, bounce some questions off high time Corvair pilots Mark and Joe, and meet the master mechanic, Roy Szarafinski. Sounds like a great time to me ! Come have some fun ! Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, Ohio
KR> Corvair Head
Paul Go online to www.corvair.org to find the local Corvair club. They are a great source for parts. That's where I found a complete engine with only 45,000 miles on it for $60 !!! Good luck Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, OH > From: kr1pi...@aol.com > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:24:01 -0400 > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Corvair Head > > This is just a brief note to the net. > > My name is Paul and am working on a life long dream of a KR-2 here in Polk > City, close to Lakeland, Fl. > > I have recently located a corvair engine but find one of the heads to be > defective. Head number 3856743. > > Haven't had any luck on finding a replacement. So I turn to the folks on > the net, to help in my search. > > I appreciate any leads someone may have. The net has been very informative, > and I thank all who have shared ideas. > > Again Thanks, > > Paul > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Corvair College #20
Roy A BIG THANKS to you, Mark, William, the airport staff and everyone that helped make Corvair College #20 such a great success !!! Great weekend, good food, wonderful friends It just doesn't get any better There isn't another group that can that can boast the kind of helpful members that the Corvair motorheads have. I'm another step closer to getting my project in the air. Thanks to everyone that helped me reach this goal. Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, Ohio
KR> Landing gear
Don Rand Robinson used to sell an alum gear with brackets for conventional setup. I'm not sure if she still has any for sale, but you could check. nVaero ( Steve Glover) is also now selling KR components including Diehl main gear systems for either conventional or trigear applications. He may have one since he bought out her parts inventory. Hope that helps, Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK, Canton, Ohio > From: don_s_gr...@symetuoo.ca > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:51:00 -0500 > Subject: KR> Landing gear > > A question for the field. > > Aside from Grove, who else makes an aluminum one-piece main gear for > the KR2? > > Don Greer > Belleville, Ontario > (future) KR2SS builder > don_s_gr...@sympatico.ca > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> alternator
Netters I have been working on sizing my alternator, but have been stymied by several things. My full load toals about 24 amps if I use halogen landing lights (about 8 amps) and keep them on all the time as a safety measure. I tried several LED light setswhich draw less than one amp, but they did not throw sufficient amounts of light; more of a flood pattern instead of a beam that would reach 50 to 75 feet. Mark, you mentioned LED landing lights that you purchased for RV's. You don't by chance know who the manufacturer is or a source where I could also buy a set? Failing that I have tried repeatedly to identify the Denso 30 amp alternator that you showed on your alternator install page. I can't read the last two digits on each line of the part id label: #119620-772?? & 12v 100211-45?? I have tried JD website for parts listing for a 1145 industrial mover with every possible permutation of the Denso id numbers, even Denso's website and ebay, but NOTHING. If can anyone shed any light or provide any info, I'd really appreciate it. On another note, Ron Willett and I are going to Roy's shop on Thursday to have him finish some minor details to the engine cases for the fifth bearings and then hopefully assemble our engines. That's if the snow storm bearing down on us from the Midwest doesn't crap too heavily on us. Pete Klapp
KR> HAPI spark plug wires
I am reinstalling the 1835 HAPI engine and two of the Auxiliary (automotive) plug wires are to short for my comfort level. Making a new set of wires is not a problem but... Does anyone know how HAPI formed, or recommends replacement of, the seal on the plug boot? Thank, Pete Gauthier Woodburn, OR
KR> Flight suites
I'd be interested in one. Do you have a phone number, or website for them. Pete Klapp, Canton, OH 330-388-2074 > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Steve Bray <rsb...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > used military nomex flight suites for $25 each > > > > Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > -- > Todd Price > Chandler, AZ > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> spruce vs other woods
Quite a few aircraft over here are being built using Hoop Pine. Cheers. Pete. Ballina. Oz, Mate. On 4/01/2011 09:08, David Stowers wrote: > I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation > projects instead of spruce. Spruce is getting hard to obtain at reasonable > prices and there are other woods that are stronger, but a little heavier. I > am looking at a larger engine so I think the weight issue could be balanced > off. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > David Stowers > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >
KR> Canopy latch
Glenn You're right. I have been struggling with how to latch my canopy for several months, discarding three attempts so far. Have you spotted one in particular that you see as a possible candidate? My canopy will open forward like Mark Langford's and Joe Horton's. I'm thinking a latch from a small import as they tend to use a lockable handle or push button style of lock. Maybe a Mazda Miata? Any suggestions gladly welcomed. Thanks for the great idea!!! Pete Klapp, building KR-2S, N729PK, Canton, Ohio > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:25:03 -0600 > From: rep...@martekmississippi.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Canopy latch > > I just had one of those "AHA!" moments. I want a canopy latch which I > can open from the inside or outside, is solid and can be locked. Simple > solution: Junkyard trip for a suitable automobile trunk latch mechanism. > > -- > Glenn Martin > KR2 N1333A "Guardian Sngel" > N1333A.Webs.Com > Biloxi, MS, 39532 > rep...@martekmississippi.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> upside down glassing
Try laying the section you need up on some plastic, in reverse. Plastic, peel ply, glass, epoxy, glass. Brush it out so it's wetted and then pick the whole lot up and stick it directly to the area you want it applied to. squeegee it well and tape the edges. I've not done this on a plane yet, but I have done it on a boat. I don't think the applications should be too different. Cheers. Pete. On 24/12/2010 00:09, airgu...@comcast.net wrote: > I have some repairs to the belly that need two layers of fiberglas. Can't > flip the finished bird. Any clever tips of how to glass upside down. Folks > from down under must have to do this all the time ;). > >
KR> aeropoxy
Netters Can Aeropoxy, part A resin be rejuvenated if it has gelled? I know that T-88 can be brought back to use if it crystalizes by warming. Is the same true for Aeropoxy resin or should it be discarded. About a third of the volume has stiffened into a gel. Resin and hardener were purchased May 2010. Thanks in advance for an help Pete Klapp, building KR-2S, N729PK, Canton, Ohio
KR> KR Hinges?
Steve, If you're wanting to get an Australian CoA for the aircraft then you might have to refit to the Aus. standard of 5 hinge points along the Horizontal. Cheers. Pete. On 2/11/2010 12:50, Steven Bedford wrote: > Sorry Dan I did not mean to say that the original hinges were not airworthy.. > I had read somewhere > that the Australian government required 5 instead of 3 elevator hinges and > I wasn't sure > if I would be able to receive an airworthiness certificate when I was > finished with the plane. Now > that I know that other people are flying with just 3 I may just leave it > alone. And yes, I do know that > the Aus. Feds and the Faa have different policies but wasn't sure on the kr2 > hinges so I thought I > would ask. Good job on your wing tanks I have been following your progress. > > Thanks > Steven Bedford > s1bedf...@msn.com >
KR> Digital Inboard Wing Template (RAF)?
Hey Jon, I sent you a copy of the airfoil. If anyone else is interested, here is the airfoil coordinate set. RAF-48 AIRFOIL 1.0 0.0 0.95000 0.01005 0.9 0.01950 0.8 0.04020 0.7 0.06050 0.6 0.07940 0.5 0.09380 0.4 0.10200 0.3 0.10400 0.2 0.09530 0.15000 0.08630 0.1 0.07300 0.07500 0.06390 0.05000 0.05200 0.02500 0.03650 0.01250 0.02600 0.0 0.0 0.01250 -0.01650 0.02500 -0.02340 0.05000 -0.03160 0.07500 -0.03690 0.1 -0.04030 0.15000 -0.04410 0.2 -0.04580 0.3 -0.04560 0.4 -0.04330 0.5 -0.03900 0.6 -0.03360 0.7 -0.02650 0.8 -0.01830 0.9 -0.01000 0.95000 -0.00640 1.0 0.0 Cheers. Peter Bancks Ballina, Oz. On 24/10/2010 02:27, Jon Finley wrote: > Does anyone have a digital version of the Inboard Wing Template (or a link) > for the original airfoil? > > > > Yes, I do have the paper version and I do know how to do the copy, cut, > align, paste thing. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon Finley > > N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 > > http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx
KR> comments for Craig and his Seafury replica
Craig, With the general consensus leaning toward increasing the size of the horizontal stabiliser and in turn the control surface area I'd advise you get the concept of reducing the elevator size checked thoroughly before you decide to run with it. for 2 reasons. 1. Because the KR is so closely coupled the wings can blanket part of the horizontal at high angles of attack, the width of the elevator allows part of the control surface to protrude outside of this effect and allow controllability in these attitudes. 2. The elevator is effectively altering the airfoil and angle of attack of the horizontal stabiliser to perform it's task, too great a deflection could result in a stalling of the stabiliser with unwanted results. Please be sure to have your ideas thoroughly vetted before implementing them. Cheers. Pete Bancks. Ballina. Oz. On 18/10/2010 10:26, Craig Williams wrote: > My Bad. I opened my big mouth without running the numbers first. Here are > the > #'s > > The tail as bought from the previous owner. H/S is 827 sq in and the elev is > 827 sq in. If I use this tail I will add 100 sq in to the HS to round the > ends. The previous builder added lead shot in the elev to add a > counterweight. > Mine will be internal so this will be removed at the ends. This would remove > 84 > sq in of the elevator. The difference between the added area to the H/S and > the > removal of the weight from the elev will effectively be a 20% change in the > ratio of the area of the H/S to the elevator area. Also my elev controls are > going to be adjustable so I can increase the throw of the elevator if I need > to. This is a small change in area and I believe the effects on controlling > the > plane will be positive. Most landing will be two wheelers with the speed > brake > deployed. Hope this helps > > Craig > www.kr2seafury.com
KR> WAF spacers
Thank you Mark. I was actually in the process of drawing up the WAF's in SolidWorks to illustrate the difference, but you nailed it right there. Cheers. Pete. On 3/10/2010 13:30, Mark Langford wrote: > Replacing the two bolts with one longer one and a spacer replaces two bolts > in single shear (not the best) with one bolt in double shear, which is far > better. Although I knew it already, I relearned that lesson when I checked > my flaps after 930 hours and found the oilite bushings elongated and some > slop in the flap...because I'd used two short pins in each hinge rather than > one longer one (due to clearance reasons). Simply replacing the two with > one longer one eliminated the slop. All the spacer does in between two WAF > fittings is enable you to tighten the bolt up without pinching the WAF > fittings together and breaking some wooden stuff. I did the single bolt and > spacer thing when I revamped my wing tips, added the gas tank, and put my > WAFs in double shear. I guess I should conjure up a picture to show the > point... > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com
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It's the addition of the tube spacer that adds the strength not the length of the bolt. What it effectively does is take an area that has two potential failure modes and replaces it with one. Cheers. Peter Bancks. Ballina, Oz. On 3/10/2010 12:49, Glenn Martin wrote: > I can see how a thicker bolt could improve shear strength, or a bolt of > a greater rating, but unless I am missing something, I see no way that a > longer bolt of the same type and size could improve its shear strength > at the wing attach fitting junction through an increase in its length. > Did I miss somthing in physics class?
