[lace] being there at the right time?

2004-06-07 Thread Helene Gannac
Haddad wrote:
The Little things
After September 11, one company invited the remaining members of  other 
companies, who had been decimated by the attack on the Twin Towers,  to 
share their available office space. At a morning meeting, the head of
security told stories of why these people were alive ..  all the
stories were just about 'L I T T LE' things.

Nice stories, Haddad, and I'm sure there is a moral somewhere there, but
do we know how many people died in that building when they should have
been somewhere else, and got delayed because:

-the person they came to see was late,
-the doctor they came to consult (if there were any) hadn't finished their
previous consultation at the time they should have,
-they were coming for an interview and the boss had forgotten all about
it.
-they were working on their day off because the boss asked them to work
overtime,
-they were delivering lunch to someone in the building,
-they were there repairing a photocopier which someone had sabotaged to
annoy the boss,
-they were there taking pictures of a big wig because he/she couldn't
possibly make time to visit the photo shop,
-they were late leaving because the boss asked them to take a letter down
just as they were getting ready to go,
-they were on the phone trying to get their kid out of trouble because of
drug abuse,
-they were there cleaning the office out after staff had left it in a mess
the night before,
-they were repainting the office because the new boss's wife didn't like
the colours the previous boss's wife had chosen,




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[lace] why?

2004-06-07 Thread Helene Gannac
How about the seven maids with seven mops from The Walrus and the
Carpenter?

- -Gabrielle, still bobbinless in sunny Puyallup

Hi, Gabrielle, why bobbinless?? Are you on holidays, or were tehy all
stolen

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, who is trying to sort out all her pins
by size again!

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[lace] Sevens - logistics more ideas

2004-06-07 Thread Jane Partridge
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sue Babbs
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Inside the back cover we could list all contributors to the project, from
design ideas, to drawings, to lace, to construction etc

This could cause problems at judging stage - where work normally has no
reference on it whatsoever as to who the maker was!

My only reservation so far is that the winners in the recent past have
kept their work fairly simple and uncomplicated - and this seems to be
neither, there is a lot going on in it, and that may be a negative
rather than a positive.

Going for maximum size may be the way to fit all of the ideas in, but if
the same happened again as this time with gallery space being at a
premium, it may work against it.

When initially reading through Tamara's logistics, I was thinking seven
separate panels, taking up wall space; what about joining them together
at both sides to make a heptagonal carousel - then I read the book bit.
I am right that 70cm is very approximately 30 inches? (My brain isn't
too good at this time on a Monday morning and I cannot envisage
centimetre measurements easily at any time of day!) That would give a
widest spread of about 5 feet plus an allowance for the centre rod -
rather gallery space hogging, maybe?
-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Prague

2004-06-07 Thread Jean Barrett
Hi Margot,
I can make lunch Sunday for an Arachne 'meet'. Can't do breakfasts as 
I'm not staying on campus and like you have Council lunch on Saturday.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 6 Jun 2004, at 21:58, Margot Walker wrote:

What's happened to the idea of an Arachne get-together in Prague.  I 
think Elaine was gathering the names.  I suggest breakfast or lunch on 
Sun.  (That's a purely selfish suggestion, since I'm trying to get 
Canadians together for breakfast on Sat., and there's a working lunch 
for Council members on Sat.)

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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[lace] Prague

2004-06-07 Thread Dora Northern
Please All, forgive me for sending the Prague article 3 times. It was not to
make you read it 3x only my stupidity with a new PC.

forgive please

Dora the Knotter

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Re: [lace] Re: Sevens, more logistics

2004-06-07 Thread Alice Howell
At 07:05 PM 6/6/2004, you wrote:
My calculations came from Jacquie Tinch's original message:
From this time, at least, the size restrictions were maximum 100cm (or 40 -
so if you've got size problems, work in inches VBG) in any one 
direction but with a total of height + width + length not more than 190 
cm (75).
I'm not sure about looking for pre-existing patterns and making a 
collage... I thought this is supposed to be an original project?

OK -- I misunderstood the size notation.The above limits would allow 
for eight panels of 8x8 or 8x10, hinged accordion style, and displayed with 
the two ends 40 apart.  This would give 10 per double panel which is a 
wide enough angle to display.  For packing, it would fold up quite 
compactly.  For overall size, 40 plus 10 plus 8 would be 58, well under the 
maximum size allowed.  If displayed in a square, it would be 20 on a side 
for a measurement of 20 + 20 +8 or 48.

As to using an existing map pattern, I didn't intend to suggest it be done 
as printed, but used as a reference.  After all, the shape of the 
continents hasn't changed and it would show what a panel might look 
like.  To fit our size and space, it would have to be redrawn anyway, and 
our road sign added.

Seven panels would also work, with the first panel displayed parallel to 
the wall the other six panels zigzagging.  It would fill the same space but 
conform to the Seven theme.  (Panel 1 -- continents and sign.  Panels 2-6 
showing man etc-- six panels to show 8 people/sacks/cats.  Panel 8 showing 
St Ives.)

Keep the ideas flowing.  We shoudl be able to come up with something 
interesting.

Alice in Oregon -- projected damp until next Saturday, Rose Parade day.
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Re: [lace] Prague

2004-06-07 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Margot, hello Jeri and all others,
As I understood Elaine she wants to gether the members of the list, but 
perhaps I am wrong. I send her my name and she accepted it. Unhappily I 
didn't manage to met her in Tönder. But if you want to be only the 
US-members or only this or that nation  I will accept this.
My report from Tönder needs some time because I found so much mail this 
morning.
Greetings
Ilske

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Re: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-07 Thread David Collyer
G'day Jo,.
The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, however, Antarctica?
A Japanese Kimono, an Indian from North America (the mens costumes are more
impressive), a colourfull South Amercian, from Europe many period or
fokloristic costumes could be picked.
That's a great idea, except that down here they didn't wear anything 
Guess it could save some time on lace making.
David in Ballarat


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[lace] Poems about lace

2004-06-07 Thread Ruth Budge
I've been extremely priviledged to receive a draft copy of Noelene's little
book of lace-related verses.   There are poems about tatting and about bobbin
lace - some humorous, some with quite a message.   I think my favourite is
called Why I like to make lace.

I think you'll enjoy seeing this when the final versions roll off the printer's
presses!   Well done Noelene!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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[lace] Sevens again

2004-06-07 Thread The Browns
I haven't seen mention of these as yet:-7 Labours of Hercules;  7 
Lamps of Architecture ; 7 Sages of Greece/Rome; The 7 Sisters - 
Pleiades; The 7 Sisters (rocks off  The Isle of Wight, GB); Sevenoaks (6 
replaced after the Great Blow 1987 ); Sept Iles  -Canada.  My 7 Labours  
of love  !!! 
Re; get -togethers.  Surely the lovely thing about OIFDA is the  mixing 
of  lacemakers.   I know it is easier for us in GB, but even here 
sometimes it's only once a year we see each other at the Guild AGM again 
because of distance.
Please can anyone tell me where I can get an arachne badge.  Roseground 
Supplies who used to stock them has run out.
Sheila in E.Herts.,  GB in beautiful sunshine.
www.lace-helpandhistory.info

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[lace] 7 Wives

2004-06-07 Thread Pamela Thompson
Tamara  Arachne Members
Quoted from Tamara
In the meantime, I've been keeping track of various ideas and the 
degree of enthusiasm they seem to generate. Also, thinking how best to 
marry as many of them as possible ---
 
Your thought processes are wonderful. So imaginative and to be able to include 
everyone's idea. This is turning into a nice project. I can't contribute much -maybe 
easy lacemaking but it would be fun to try.
 
Pam in Ohio


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RE: [lace] underground/arachne name

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
How about calling the secondary list Arachne-project?

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

-Original Message-
The word itself wouldn't be copyright or otherwise owned, and it does
identify our project. 

Someone earlier started the subject 'underground' which now seems to be
confusing, I think this subgroup, sister-group, whatever, is definitely
above ground! 

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RE: [lace] Arachne-7; more logistics (long)

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Susan Lambiris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I thought of having the seven panels linked to each other so that 
they could be unfolded to form a sort of seven-sided cylinder-like 
globe, 

Just remember, it's not only the packing requirements, but the *nature* of
the display that you need to account for.  3-d doesn't necessarily mean it
can be seen from all sides.  A 7-sided cylinder would require the piece be
alone in a free-standing case out on the floor, so people can walk all
around it and see it from all sides.

Similarly, a book-shape with pivoting pages requires it not be behind glass,
so people can turn the pages.  That brings up the need for a place to hang
or stand it, and also a security issue--how they can turn the pages without
getting their grubby hands all over the lace.

Therefore, before determining format, someone needs to talk at great length
with the people who are responsible for setting up the display; people who
know the facilities and equipment they have, and who know how far they'll be
willing to go to fit such a complex piece into their scheme.  Otherwise you
may find yourself with a project that, however lovely and imaginative, just
can't be accommodated.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
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RE: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
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Isn't this something that can be moved to lace chat??  No as it is a 
planning discussion for a large lace project.  

Don't worry, it should soon be moving to its own list, neither lace nor
chat.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
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[lace] Re: Kniplings-Festival in Tönder

2004-06-07 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Dear Lacefriends.
After done the most important household-requests i will start my Tönder 
reports, yes I am afraid I need several hoping it will not bore you.
Friday morning, it was raining cats and dogs, we started to the north. 
The first stop was in Flensburg the Museum of the City. In the same 
room as the loom are the laces. A big pattern-book which ones belonged 
to Hans Hansen who was a lace-dealer in 19th cent. took my attention 
first. There is a piece of paper with a foto of him selling laces at 
the island Sylt about summer 1890 with the danske Elle/ yardstick in 
his hands, but this information I got later. And another such 
patternbook from 1841which one belonged Fedder Matthiesen both danish 
people. And around them and in another display-case laces, hankerchiefs 
and collars from that time. Most with Tönder-lace but some other 
techniques too. I had the impression that most of the laces in the 
second display-case were made later but after the old patterns. The 
things weren't well marked, that's a pity. I studied everything very 
carefully. It's not much there but if you are nearby it is worth to see 
it. Ask at the cashier after the laces and they describe you how to 
come there very quick.
For those of you who are interested in art the museum posses a few 
paintings and aquarells from Emil Nolde, aquarells from Erich Heckel 
and others who lived at the same time. But this things are in the other 
building.
After that we travelled farther north. When we arrived in Tönder the 
sun came out and said nice to meet you and it was wonderful without 
umbrella  and in a bit of warmth.
Puting our things in the hotelroom and up I went to the salesroom, I 
had to bring some things to my Verband. I looked round if I need 
something and I met lots of familiar faces and it was a big hello here 
and there. But unhappily I couldn't find the three person from the list 
we wanted to meet each other.
The next morning I started my walk for the exhibitions they arranged 
for us, but this comes tomorrow.
I'll do some pictures in my webshot-album so you could have a look if 
you want.
Ilske

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[lace] To Barbara J Gordon

2004-06-07 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
I am sorry to have to send this mail to the list but Barbaras server says my
message is spam and won´t accept it, I have tried three times and I am not
sure if she is on arachne or bobbinlace list. I am not sure why it is
spammed, I have tried different subject line three time but still no luck.
Ann-Marie


Hello Barbara
Thank you so much for liking my bobbinlace, it is so fun to do.
At this page http://www.knipling-i-danmark.dk/k-i-d.htm you can see the
magazine, it is the issue with the scarf pattern, it is called  Doris. I
don´t think there are any information in english but there is an mailaddress
so you can contact them
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Here are two other links, Kniplerier, one of the owners, Aage, has made the
pattern to the scarf, and another link just to enjoy.
http://www.kniplerier.dk/galleri.htm
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/mejdal/index.htm

I hope this will help you, otherwise please contact me again
Yours
Ann-Marie
 http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1
http://www.ettklickforskogen.se/
Your designs are very pretty and nicely done.  I am interested in seeing one
of the Danish magazine, but don't really know where or how to see or order
one.  Do you have an address for it or a web site.  Website preferably.
Thanks,
Barbara

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[lace] D-Day commemorative bobbin

2004-06-07 Thread Jean Nathan
Does anyone know if any supplier is selling a 60th anniversary D-Day
commemorative bobbin? None of the sellers at Poole Bobbin Lace Day was.
Fountains used to do a lot of commemmoratives (I got a Battle of Britain one
from them), but their web page is still showing commemmoratives for Mother's
Day (March here in the UK) and Easter. If it wasn't for the troops who took
part in the landings, most of us in the UK at least and possibly a lot of
Europe, probably wouldn't be here. I know that huge numbers of American and
British troops (not sure about other countries involvement in th invasion)
lost their lives, and the French people played an enormous part to make it a
success.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-07 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Hello David

I never heard of the rhyme or story before, so please excuse my ignorance.

Jo Falkink

 The seven wifes could come from the seven continents, 
 [...]
 That's a great idea, except that down here they didn't wear anything 
 David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] D-Day commemorative bobbin

2004-06-07 Thread Scotlace
Can any reply be sent to the list, please, as I would also be very 
interested.

Jean, Canadian troops were also very much involved - British and Canadian 
together outnumbered American.

Patricia in Wales
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Re: [lace] D-Day commemorative bobbin

2004-06-07 Thread roseground
Jean wrote :

 Does anyone know if any supplier is selling a 60th anniversary D-Day
 commemorative bobbin? None of the sellers at Poole Bobbin Lace Day was.
 Fountains used to do a lot of commemmoratives (I got a Battle of Britain
one
 from them), but their web page is still showing commemmoratives for
Mother's
 Day (March here in the UK) and Easter.

This gives me the opportunity to announce that Roseground has (as of
yesterday - the anniversary of D-Day) taken over the bobbin and lacemaking
tool business previously operated as Fountains Lace Supplies. Please give us
a week or so to get our catalogue and web-site adjusted but please be aware
that we continue to accept orders based on Fountains catalogue and Web-site
in the meantime. Our daughter Pam Sharples is joining us in the business to
specialise in all aspects of bobbin orders and the Bobbin a Month Club which
we will be continuing.

Roseground would certainly be happy to commission a commemorative for the
actual D-Day 50th Anniversary. Those who might be interested should contact
us off-line.

Pat Hallam
Nottingham, UK
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Re: [lace] Sevens - logistics more ideas

2004-06-07 Thread Sue Babbs
I'd forgotten about the Cambs one. I remember the Cornish one from childhood
visits, with much affection. As that was the time I learnt of the rhyme, I
always assumed it was that one. It doesn't really matter unless we represent
the village somewhere in the overall item. Perhaps it's safest not to
Sue
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 I have always been under the impression that the St. Ives was the one in
 Cambridgeshire - another lovely little town!   But perhaps we are both
 incorrect,

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[lace] oops

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
I think I just accidentally deleted an email from lace or lace-chat.
So, if anyone just sent something they think I really should read, can
you please resend it to me?

Weronika

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[lace] Re: Noelene's booklet

2004-06-07 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 7, 2004, at 22:08, Clay Blackwell wrote:
So tell, tell!!  Did Mark (TatMan) do the drawings?  He had 
volunteered to
do them at one time!
And then didn't deliver (s like a man g)...
I got my contributor's copy (wrote a couple of doggerel bits to add 
to the tatting in my pocket running rhyme, *and* provided the 
inspiration for it g) a while back, and the illustrations in it are 
all cobbled up by Noelene from, I think, clip art provided by the 
puter. But they fit extremely well with the subjects of the poems, even 
so...

---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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Re: [lace] Re: Noelene's booklet

2004-06-07 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
I just got back on [EMAIL PROTECTED] tonight after an absence of 6 weeks (I'm not back 
on Chat yet), and want to know what about Nolene's booklet.  Is it ready for sale, am 
I to preorder, how do I get one?  Anxious to find out the details...I have sheets of 
her poems that she posted, but *I want the whole thing!*

Happy Lacemaking,
Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA where it is cooler than London, England

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[lace-chat] n animals

2004-06-07 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Hi Jean,

As all the Australian contingent will know, there is also an Australian mammal 
(endangered unfortunately) called a
numbat. Cute and furry, a little like an overgrown mouse  with a long nose.

Jen in Melbourne

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[lace-chat] Re the Car

2004-06-07 Thread Peter Goldsmith
Firstly my apologies on closer examination the book is dated 1992 - only 10
years out.

It is just as well we didn't try to get to the meeting. The rear oil seal had
gone - any oil added just poured straight out. The mechanic advised we were
lucky that it did not catch fire. The car won't be ready until Wednesday or
Thursday. Really great as I have 3 weeks of casual work starting tonight at
11-45. First time I've ever done night shift.
We had all the stuff ready to take up. Will have to  bring the remaining cake
from the luncheon to the August meeting.

Peter

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[lace-chat] swivel windows

2004-06-07 Thread Helene Gannac
Weronika wrote:
I'm not sure how Tamara's swivel windows work, but the ones we have at
home in Poland can open normally (i.e. like doors), and if you twist the
handle up they'll open at the top and stay attached at the bottom, but
only open a little, so you can leave them like that to get some air but
not be cold.  Since all of the opening happens in one direction,
mosquito screens should work with those. 

Yes, that's how my mother's work too, but then, you can't put Venetian
blinds inside to keep the sun out, and in Australia, we certainly need
them!
For some reason, outside shutters have never really taken off in
Australia, although quite a few of the early buildings had them. I cannot
understand why, they would be so useful! They are coming back now, with
those aluminium wind down ones, but wooden ones like in Mediterranean
countries hardly exist. With so many immigrants from those countries, I
can't believe no-one ever made shutters popular!!

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne

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[lace-chat] Europe in a wheelchair

2004-06-07 Thread Helene Gannac
Weronika wrote:

So what cities do you think she should see, what sort of cheap
transportation is there, is it safe to sleep in parks, how hard is it to
find people who speak English?
Also, she's on a wheelchair - what's the situation with curbcuts (I
think that's the word - the way sidewalks ramp down to level with the
street on corners in the US), accessible buses and trains, etc.?  

You've got a friend who's in a wheelchair and wants to sleep in parks in
Europe I suggests she read a few European newspapers articles before
she goes!! The incidence of thefts, rape, accidents in Europe for ordinary
travellers is bad enough without planning to sleep in parks! Good grief! I
thought I was a seasoned traveller, but I wouldn't have been game even
when I was in my twenties!! 
My instinct would be to say Stay home until you have enough money to
sleep in hostels at least!
Good luck to her if she goes. She must be game, but I think there is game
and there is foolhardy...

Helene, the stunned froggy from Melbourne

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[lace-chat] Re: Europe in a wheelchair

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
Well, she'll have a brother with her most of the time.  And I'm not sure
how dangerous sleeping in random places really is - I've done quite a lot in
Warsaw, which is not supposed to be a very safe city, and I've never had
any trouble.  Plus, the stories are so much better g

Weronika

On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 06:08:41PM +1000, Helene Gannac wrote:
 You've got a friend who's in a wheelchair and wants to sleep in parks in
 Europe I suggests she read a few European newspapers articles before
 she goes!! The incidence of thefts, rape, accidents in Europe for ordinary
 travellers is bad enough without planning to sleep in parks! Good grief! I
 thought I was a seasoned traveller, but I wouldn't have been game even
 when I was in my twenties!! 
 My instinct would be to say Stay home until you have enough money to
 sleep in hostels at least!
 Good luck to her if she goes. She must be game, but I think there is game
 and there is foolhardy...

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[lace-chat] Re: Estonia

2004-06-07 Thread Pene Piip
Hi Devon,
The house will be our private residence,  is called the prettiest house 
in Tartu
by the local residents. My husband, Erik, speaks Estonian  I learnt it for 
18 months
when Sam was a baby. We will have an income from the rent of the 3 apartments
that are in the same building as the guest apartment,  as there will be no 
mortgage
to pay off, Erik won't need to work full time. I don't know yet if he has 
any political
aspirations, but you never know, he might follow in his grandfather's 
footsteps 
decide to get involved in the local political arena to see if he likes it 
or not.

Pene
At 12:48 PM 6/6/2004 -0400, you wrote:
I visited the website of the place in Estonia that Pene directed us to. It 
is a house originally belonging to the Piip family, returned to them after 
the last half century of communist rule during which time it was state 
owned. What an interesting story.

Pene, do you and your husband speak Estonian? What work is he planning to 
do there? Will he enter politics? Will you run the house as a guest house 
or use it only as a private residence?

Devon
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[lace-chat] Re: Mosquitoes

2004-06-07 Thread Lynn Carpenter
Louise Hume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 only the male mosquitoes sing, to attract the females.
So... if you hear a mosquito singing, it is a male and will not bite.

I have read this, too, but apparently the mosquitoes in Michigan haven't.
I don't know if male and female mosquitoes have a different pitch, but I
can definitely hear the ones that bite me.  Then again, perhaps this is a
species thing, with some mosquiteo species quiet and other ones buzzy.

Louise in Central Virginia,  where we have had so much rain in the past
month that the mozzies rise up in clouds when one walks across the lawn.

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com
Where we had so much rain in May that we hopefully raised the possibility
that all the mosquito wigglers (larvae) would be washed out into Lake
Michigan!

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[lace-chat] Random thoughts on Reagan and thankfulness

2004-06-07 Thread the Mouzons
I have been thinking a lot this weekend about the life of Ronald Reagan.
He was a wonderful human being and a great President.  His positive
outlook on life was contagious; you never heard him or Mrs. Reagan
complaining, even when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
In my day to day routine, it's easy to get caught up in negative
feelings about things, but I have found that doing so is a waste of
energy and health.  There is so much in life to be thankful for!  If you
just spend some time thinking about that each day you will be surprised
at the difference it can make!  I know it sounds too simplistic, but
complaining takes way too much effort and comes at a very high cost to
your own wellbeing and morale.
There are so many countries represented here on this list; and I'm sure
each person is proud of the country they are from.  I would like to hear
from people just one thing about your homeland that you are especially
thankful for.  I know it may be hard to limit it to just one thing, but
what do you like best about being a(an)_?
As for me, at this point in my life, it is that we have had so many
wonderful leaders like Ronald Reagan.  He was a great example...not only
as a President but as a husband in the loving relationship he has shared
with his wife.
He left us a wealth of great speeches to remind Americans of the all
that we have to be thankful for. I have copied a few words from one of
his last...

And whatever else history may say about me when I'm gone, I hope it
will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears, to
your confidence rather than your doubts. My dream is that you will
travel the road ahead with liberty's lamp guiding your steps and
opportunity's arm steadying your way.
My fondest hope for each one of you – and especially for the young
people here – is that you will love your country, not for her power or
wealth, but for her selflessness and her idealism. May each of you have
the heart to conceive, the understanding to direct, and the hand to
execute works that will make the world a little better for your having
been here.

You can read more of his speeches at
http://www.reaganlibrary.com/reagan/speeches/

Debbie in Florida  ...  where the state bird is the mosquito :)
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[lace-chat] recipe help

2004-06-07 Thread rick sharon
Oh my, so many different measuring sizes :(  Perhaps you should check the
country of origin of the recipe, and maybe the age.  Years ago, when we were
in England, I solved the problem by buying all the measuring devices :)
Anyway, my old British measuring spoons say that a dessertspoon is 12ml.  A
tablespoon is 18ml. and a teaspoon is 6ml.  So, a Dessertspoon is two
teaspoons...just to add to the confusion :)  Sharon on dull Vancouver Island

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Re: [lace-chat] recipe help

2004-06-07 Thread NOWPRESHUS
here is a good www site that addresses many conversions etc...


All Recipes | Conversions 



http://allrecipes.com/advice/ref/conv/conversions.asp

Christine
in hot Katy, TX  USA

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[lace-chat] Re: swivel windows

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:59:02PM +1000, Helene Gannac wrote:
 Weronika wrote:
 I'm not sure how Tamara's swivel windows work, but the ones we have at
 home in Poland can open normally (i.e. like doors), and if you twist the
 handle up they'll open at the top and stay attached at the bottom, but
 only open a little, so you can leave them like that to get some air but
 not be cold.  Since all of the opening happens in one direction,
 mosquito screens should work with those. 
 
 Yes, that's how my mother's work too, but then, you can't put Venetian
 blinds inside to keep the sun out, and in Australia, we certainly need
 them!

Hmm.  I'm again not sure what Venetian blinds are, but in our house
there were things called zaluzje (Tamara?), which kept the sun out.
I looked at some venetian blind images, and it looks like they're the
same thing, but maybe normally they're mounted on the wall above the
window?  Ours were mounted directly on the window, so they just moved
with it when it opened (unfortunately no longer kept the sun out then).  

Weronika

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mosquitoes

2004-06-07 Thread Weronika Patena
 Louise Hume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  only the male mosquitoes sing, to attract the females.
 So... if you hear a mosquito singing, it is a male and will not bite.
 
 I have read this, too, but apparently the mosquitoes in Michigan haven't.
 I don't know if male and female mosquitoes have a different pitch, but I
 can definitely hear the ones that bite me.  Then again, perhaps this is a
 species thing, with some mosquiteo species quiet and other ones buzzy.

I've also heard the female-biting thing, but I've definitely had some
buzzing ones bite me.  I think maybe only females bite in the large
mosquito species and all of them bite in the small one?  That is
assuming those are different species at all.  

 Louise in Central Virginia,  where we have had so much rain in the past
 month that the mozzies rise up in clouds when one walks across the lawn.

Ouch.  Living in the desert has advantages.

Weronika

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[lace-chat] Fw: Real Life, Real Women, Real Tips! (fwd)

2004-06-07 Thread Linda
 HERE AT LAST ARE CLEANING TIPS THAT MAKE TOTAL SENSE!!!
 
 DIRT: Layers of dirty film on windows and screens provide a helpful
 filter against harmful and aging rays from the sun. Call it an SPF
 factor of 15 and leave it alone.
 
 COBWEBS: Cobwebs artfully draped over lampshades reduce the glare from
 the bulb, thereby creating a romantic atmosphere. If your husband points
 out that the light fixtures need dusting, simply look
 confused and exclaim What? And spoil the mood? (Or just throw glitter
 on them and call them holiday decorations)
 
 PET HAIR: Explain the mound of pet hair brushed up against the doorways
 by claiming you are collecting it there to use for stuffing hand-sewn
 play animals for underprivileged children. (Also keeps out
 cold drafts in winter)
 
 DUSTING: If dusting is really out of control, simply place a showy urn
 on the coffee table and insist that This is where Grandma wanted us to
 scatter her ashes.
 
 GENERAL CLEANING: Mix one-quarter cup pine-scented household cleaner
 with four cups of water in a spray bottle. Mist the air lightly. Leave
 dampened rags in conspicuous locations. Develop an
 exhausted look, throw yourself on the couch and sigh, I clean and I
 clean and I still don't get anywhere. If unexpected company is coming,
 pile everything unsightly into one room and close the door. As
 you show your guests through your tidy home, rattle the door knob
 vigorously, fake a growl and say, I'd love you to see our den, but
 Fluffy hates to be disturbed and the shots are SO expensive.
 
 KITCHEN:  Light the oven, throw a teaspoon of cinnamon in a pie pan,
 turn off oven and explain that you have been baking cookies for a bake
 sale for a favorite charity and haven't had time to
 clean.
 
 Always keep several get well cards on the mantle so if unexpected guests
 arrive, you can say you've been sick and unable to clean.
 

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[lace-chat] Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

2004-06-07 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  DH and I just got home from seeing the third Harry
Potter movie.  It was great  Many wonderful parts and
new characters.  The new Dumbledore is excellent and
it's fun to see Harry, Hermoine and Ron a year older.  

Now I have to head towards bed so I'll leave it at that.
Highly recommended!

Jane in Vermont, USA where it's feeling like summer!
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[lace-chat] Blinds

2004-06-07 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 7, 2004, at 20:06, Weronika Patena wrote:
Hmm.  I'm again not sure what Venetian blinds are, but in our house
there were things called zaluzje (Tamara?), which kept the sun out.
I looked at some venetian blind images, and it looks like they're the
same thing,
They are, though there are so many different varieties of blinds and 
window shades, that it's hard to say sometimes... :)

but maybe normally they're mounted on the wall above the
window?
Ours are mounted on the inside of the window frame, at the top, and 
hang free, all the way down to the bottom of the window.  It's a single 
piece job covering the entire window.  When the window is closed (or 
partly open, as it only ever opens *partly*, being sash), you can 
regulate the amount of light coming in via a little rod at the side. 
Depending on how you twist it, the slats will either overlap slightly 
(minimum light, and maximum protection from Peeping Toms) or hang 
parallel to one another allowing maximum light, while still making it 
difficult to see inside, unless you're really close to the window.

Which latter function (ie making it difficult for people from the 
outside to see inside, while permitting those inside to spy on the 
street scene) is, essentially, what the word zaluzja implies. It 
comes from the French jalousie (spelling?) and, originally, was used 
to describe the see-through layer of the curtains (usually lacy g). 
It was later than the two got separated, with zaluzja kept for the 
blind, and zazdrostka (*literally* small jealousy) applied to the 
see-through, fabric one (and now, only used on the bottom half of the 
window, a bit like the American cafe curtains)

To open the window, you first pull on a string, which gathers all the 
slats together (or rolls them up, on older models), and, once the 
window's open, you let them down again. But you couldn't use those with 
casement windows, at least not those which open to the inside. I have 
seen them, however, on French doors leading to patios and such, 
especially the sliding kind (in California as well, as a matter of 
fact, though in the Bay Area, not where you're at).

Ours were mounted directly on the window, so they just moved
with it when it opened (unfortunately no longer kept the sun out then).
Very strong/hot sun is hardly a *problem* in Poland (half the time, we 
don't get enough of it) :) When it is, you close the window *and* the 
curtains, and hope the double glazing (with a layer of dead air between 
the panes) will keep the heat out.

I do remember, from Poland of my childhood, the outside shutters 
(okiennice) that Helene has mentioned - though I've seen them only in 
the village, not in the city - and very nice they were too, for the 
middle of the day nap in summertime  :) Here, we used to have some on 
our house, but they were for decorative/aesthetic purposes only; they 
were *screwed to the walls*, each side of the window; you couldn't 
*use* them... g Not only because they were screwed to the walls but 
also because you couldn't lean out of the window far enough to grab and 
close them :)

So... Since Severn dislikes fake as much as I do, we got rid of them 
at one point when the house was painted from the outside. It sure makes 
the windows look disproportionately *small* from the outside... piggy 
eyes I call them... :)

---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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[lace-chat] Re: thankfulness

2004-06-07 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Jun 7, 2004, at 9:41, the Mouzons (Debbie in Florida) wrote:
I'm sure
each person is proud of the country they are from.  I would like to 
hear
from people just one thing about your homeland that you are especially
thankful for.  I know it may be hard to limit it to just one thing, but
what do you like best about being a(an)_?
Being 3 shades of gray myself (half Polish, half Jewish, transplanted 
to US for the past 31 yrs)...  :)

When I was a child and pre-teen in Poland, I was thankful for the 
security of everyday living... Nobody had to worry about basic survival 
needs; if you were sick, a doctor came (for free) and most of your 
medicine was free too. And nobody was ever *hungry*, though we often 
went short of this or that.

When I was in my late teens and early twenties (also in Poland) I was 
thankful for having enough brain power to be able to learn how to go - 
safely - through life in a zig-zag line: when to duck, and when to be 
defiant, and how to play the system to the best advantage.

Now that I'm here... I guess I'm thankful for being able to bitch, *in 
the open*, about the bad parts of *both* systems (while, in Poland of 
pre-'89, only US was open to critique)... g

I'm also *still* grateful for the lessons I learnt, in Poland, in the 
stage 2 period... They may come in handy soon, even in US.

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: She's Soooooooo Blonde . . .

2004-06-07 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
For all word-play lovers :)
From: R.P.
She's S Blonde . . .
* She thought a quarterback was a refund.
* She thought General Motors was in the army.
* She thought Meow Mix was a CD for cats.
* She thought Boyz II Men was a day care center.
* At the bottom of an application where it says Sign here: she wrote 
Sagittarius.
* She took the ruler to bed to see how long she slept.
* She sent a fax with a stamp on it.
* Under education on her job application, she put Hooked On Phonics.
* She tripped over a cordless phone.
* She spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice can because it said 
Concentrate.
* She told me to meet her at the corner of WALK and DON'T WALK.
* She tried to put MM's in alphabetical order.
* She studied for a blood test.
* She sold the car for gas money.
* When she missed bus #44 she took bus #22 twice instead.
* When she went to the airport and saw a sign that said, Airport 
Left, she turnedaround and went home.
* When she heard that 90% of all crimes occur around the home, she 
moved.
* If she spoke her mind, she'd be speechless.
* She thought that she could not use her AM radio in the evening.
* She had a shirt that said TGIF, which she thought stood for This 
Goes In Front.
* She thinks Taco Bell is the Mexican phone company.

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