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2014-08-14 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
Thank you Aldele and others for your convention report. I have enjoyed the few
that have responded. Just the same I hope I will get to read other reports.
    I am looking towards tomorrow when I will hear if I am going to get in the
class I wanted for Ithaca, New York Lace Days. I am hoping to get in the wire
lace class but I understand that this is a real popular class so that may not
happened. Holly's class would be good too.
 Tomorrow is suppose to be the day
when names will be drawn to place lacers in classes by lottery so we will see
what will happen.
   Who on the list is going and what classes are you hoping
for.


Wind To Thy Wings, 
Sherry 
New York, US of America
celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com 
http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ 
Nata 616

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Re: [lace] Eye of the Needle

2014-08-14 Thread Jill Hawkins
Many thanks for your report, Jane.  I am visiting the Ashmolean on 23 August and
have tickets for this exhibition.  I hope I enjoy it as much as you.

Jill
Milton Keynes, UK

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Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern

2014-08-14 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lyn,
 
Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions 
 and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace?  If so, our 
 newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of 
 Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56.  
 
Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in  Sweden?  
Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide.  The thread sizes are  different: 10 
pairs 
with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind  11 pairs with 
140, 1 bobbin with 35/3.  (The 35/2 passive gimp in  the footing may be 
replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace  makers to remember, 
since 
shopping for threads can be difficult.)
 
When it comes to English speakers knowing about Danish Tonder  (pronounced 
Turner) lace, we stand on the shoulders of the late Inge  Skovgaard, who did 
so much for OIDFA in the early years, and arranged  for the 
English-language version of this book.  It is a classic,  and sells for an 
inflated price.  
However, if you are a member of a large  lace guild with a library, you can 
borrow it (IOLI, The Lace Guild, for  example). The name is appealing.  So 
is the lace.  Historic  pieces are usually added to attire of Danish royal 
babies and  brides. 
 
Ironically, I was researching Danish laces last night, and re-reading  
Pomp and Poetry - Lace Through 400 Years, published by the Danske  
Kunstindustrimuseum in 1991, to serve as catalog for a lace exhibition, ISBN  
87-87075-741.  It is partially in English; enough to enjoy.  Her  Majesty Queen 
Ingrid (1910-2000) served as Protector for the  exhibition.  
 
On page 79, there is a 1941 photograph of Queen Alexandrine  (1879-1952) at 
her lace pillow at Amalienborg Palace.  On the  following page is a dainty 
collar made from 5 curved rows of the little heart  pattern.  This reminded 
me of my visit to this Copenhagen museum before  traveling on to the 2000 
OIDFA Congress in Lund Sweden.  There is  a lace room way at the back of the 
museum, and in a drawer I found lace  made by the Queen.  Perhaps it was the 
Little Heart of Denmark  pattern.  Our Danish members will know.
 
It was at this museum, in the lace room, that I first met the late Elaine  
Merritt, an Arachne member who served OIDFA as a Vice President from the  
U.S.!!  Recommendation:  If you meet someone in a lace gallery in a  mostly 
empty museum who is intensely interested in the laces, speak to them --  you 
may find you know them via Arachne!
 
Lyn, maybe a U.S. thread supplier has a suitable thread?  I've been  
working with lace in a concentrated way since about 1980, and remember there 
was  
a supplier who was sending lace threads to a Scandinavian Palace!
 
There!  Lots of things to G**gle and search for in Arachne  archives.
 
I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on  
Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a subject 
for dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just 
writing for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or, 
maybe 
our archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did), and 
all will have been for  naught.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
--
In a message dated 8/13/2014, lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes:
 
I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from  the 
Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start.  It  
appears 
that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of  25.  
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,  USA

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Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern

2014-08-14 Thread Jacquie Tinch
Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure there are 
enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue. 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Aug 2014, at 16:44, jeria...@aol.com wrote:

 Dear Lyn,
 
 Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions 
 and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace?  If so, our 
 newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of 
 Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56.  
 
 Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in  Sweden?  
 Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide.  The thread sizes are  different: 10 
 pairs 
 with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind  11 pairs with 
 140, 1 bobbin with 35/3.  (The 35/2 passive gimp in  the footing may be 
 replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace  makers to remember, 
 since 
 shopping for threads can be difficult.)
 
 When it comes to English speakers knowing about Danish Tonder  (pronounced 
 Turner) lace, we stand on the shoulders of the late Inge  Skovgaard, who did 
 so much for OIDFA in the early years, and arranged  for the 
 English-language version of this book.  It is a classic,  and sells for an 
 inflated price.  
 However, if you are a member of a large  lace guild with a library, you can 
 borrow it (IOLI, The Lace Guild, for  example). The name is appealing.  So 
 is the lace.  Historic  pieces are usually added to attire of Danish royal 
 babies and  brides. 
 
 Ironically, I was researching Danish laces last night, and re-reading  
 Pomp and Poetry - Lace Through 400 Years, published by the Danske  
 Kunstindustrimuseum in 1991, to serve as catalog for a lace exhibition, ISBN  
 87-87075-741.  It is partially in English; enough to enjoy.  Her  Majesty 
 Queen 
 Ingrid (1910-2000) served as Protector for the  exhibition.  
 
 On page 79, there is a 1941 photograph of Queen Alexandrine  (1879-1952) at 
 her lace pillow at Amalienborg Palace.  On the  following page is a dainty 
 collar made from 5 curved rows of the little heart  pattern.  This reminded 
 me of my visit to this Copenhagen museum before  traveling on to the 2000 
 OIDFA Congress in Lund Sweden.  There is  a lace room way at the back of the 
 museum, and in a drawer I found lace  made by the Queen.  Perhaps it was the 
 Little Heart of Denmark  pattern.  Our Danish members will know.
 
 It was at this museum, in the lace room, that I first met the late Elaine  
 Merritt, an Arachne member who served OIDFA as a Vice President from the  
 U.S.!!  Recommendation:  If you meet someone in a lace gallery in a  mostly 
 empty museum who is intensely interested in the laces, speak to them --  you 
 may find you know them via Arachne!
 
 Lyn, maybe a U.S. thread supplier has a suitable thread?  I've been  
 working with lace in a concentrated way since about 1980, and remember there 
 was  
 a supplier who was sending lace threads to a Scandinavian Palace!
 
 There!  Lots of things to G**gle and search for in Arachne  archives.
 
 I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on  
 Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a 
 subject 
 for dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just 
 writing for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or, 
 maybe 
 our archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did), and 
 all will have been for  naught.
 
 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
 --
 In a message dated 8/13/2014, lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes:
 
 I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from  the 
 Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start.  It  
 appears 
 that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of  25.  
 Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,  USA
 
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Re: [lace] Michigan license plate

2014-08-14 Thread Avital
Good heavens--I came up with that? I'm not usually that clever! :-)

I think that the license plate discussion should move to Lace-Chat
soon. Lace-related license plates are a bit off-topic for lace.

Thanks,

Avital
Arachne moderator


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:00 PM, David C COLLYER
dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 Here in Australia it cost me about $500 about 4 years ago and we can choose
 what we want but no more than 6 characters; providing it hasn't been taken
 and also that it's not suggestive.
 For tears I'd been hoping theyd extent it to 7 characters so I could have
 LACEMAN, but alas no. So I put it to Arachne to come up with 6 characters
 that inferred male lace maker and lo and behold it was our own Avital who
 did it.

 So now my car registration is LACEXY and I can keep it for life. That has 4
 double entendres. See if you can work them out.
 David in Ballarat, AUS


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[lace] Eye of the needle

2014-08-14 Thread Christine Lardner
Yes its an amazing collection of needlework. I'm glad magnifiers were 
available, the stitches are unbelievably tiny. I went to the lecture by the 
curator before visiting the exhibition. She told us the the Fellers were the 
family that own the butchers in the Covered Market! I never would have guessed, 
as a vegetarian I always look away when passing their shop as there is always 
something I don't want to see!
Christine (Oxford UK)

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Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern

2014-08-14 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Jeri,
While I have looked at Inge Skovgaard's book in the past, I do not have it, so 
I cannot tell if it is the same pattern.  In any event, the pattern I have 
definitely is not Tonder, as the ground is Dieppe ground, and not point ground. 
 It measures, per the pricking notes, 1.5 cm, which would be about the same.  
Not only has Brenda Paternoster told me that the equivalent thread is Egyptian 
70, the Svenska Spetsar answered my email to them and said the same.  I will 
thus be putting aside that excellent advice and trying Aurifil 50, which is 
actually an equivalent of Egyptian 60, because Aurifil 50 feels so much more 
like linen that it is worth winding 11 pair to see if it works.  But I have 
Egyptian 70, so I am good to go in any event.  Sadly Aurifil does not come any 
finer than 50.  I had googled the 160 thread, and it does not appear anywhere, 
which is consistent with what I know of linen thread.  We use Egyptian cotton.  

As for your other concern, losing emails, and others not reading out emails, I 
look at it this way.  Not everyone will want to read what I write, and that is 
fine with me.  I cannot please everyone, and I do not try to, although I do try 
to please as many as I can without strain.  However, if what I write interests 
even one person, my effort will not have been in vain, even if the email then 
disappears immediately.  

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the weather continues gorgeous.  We 
did have rain, but at night, and no flooding as they did on Long Island, east 
of New York City.  We are not accustomed to so much beautiful weather.  Usually 
at this time of year the air conditioning is on, and any walking or outdoor 
activity is done in the early morning before it heats up.  Not this year.  

 Jeri wrote:
Is this the same as Little Heart of Denmark, with prickings, instructions 
 and photos of straight edging, corner turning and curved lace?  If so, our 
 newer lace makers will find it in the 1991 Batsford book The Technique of 
 Tonder Lace by Inge Skovgaard, ISBN 0-7134-6255-8, pattern 9, page 56.  
 
Perhaps it has been re-scaled in the pattern you bought in  Sweden?  
Finished lace is about 1/2 inch wide.  The thread sizes are  different: 10 
pairs 
with 140, 1 bobbin with 35/2, 1 bobbin with 35/3 -- or wind  11 pairs with 
140, 1 bobbin with 35/3.  (The 35/2 passive gimp in  the footing may be 
replaced by a pair of threads -- something for all lace  makers to remember, 
since 
shopping for threads can be difficult.)


 Lyn wrote,
I bought the pricking for Little Danish Heart, (Danska Hjartan) from  the 
Svenska Spetstar a couple years ago, and am now ready to start.  It  
appears 
that the thread required is linen 160/2 or 180/2 with gimp of  25.  

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[lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Sue
I have just finished drooling over the most beautiful piece of Russian lace,
it was a bolero/waistcoat/shrug type garment.  Fairly simple but so elegant I
want to try to draw a pattern in a similar way as I have no idea where I could
buy a pattern like that.  All the russian lace patterns I have are picture
type things, or collars.   I almost made one of those but got involved in
another longer project for my Mum in the time I could have used for it so
didn’t actually get it done.I think I would get much more mileage out of
a waistcoat than a collar.
BUT by question is how on earth do I calculate the amount of thread I might
need to purchase at the same time to make sure I had enough for the whole
thing.  I have tried in the past to estimate for a set of napkins and have
lots of spools in my box waiting for me to maybe make some lace for a
tablecloth to match maybe, but I dont want to be short of thread either.
I have chosen my thread of choice (Gutterman silk) and also the colour of
choice as I have one in my box.
Most of the pattern will be trails of tape/braid so just passives and joining
links and then little bits of pattern, but not much between areas once I work
out what I like and how to draw it onto my pattern.   I am hoping to make this
my big project for after the christmas pieces are done, so to be worked over
december, january and february maybe so it gives me chance to attempt the
pattern and get that right before I begin, but I would like to get the thread
before that is done and I can begin.
Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern

2014-08-14 Thread Carol
 Dear Jeri,
While I rarely comment I am compelled to remark on your statement  I was told
again this week, that people do not read what I write on  Arachne. I want you
to know I read your your writings and appreciate you sharing your knowledge
with all of us.  I don't believe I am the only one.  The person who told you
this should have confined her comments to an I statement. She doesn't speak
for me.
Best Regards,
Carol Melton
Valley of the Sun

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Re: [lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Sue and everyone

For a pattern for a garment, using a minimal number of bobbins, the broad
answer is 'lots' of thread.
Passive pairs use a measured amount, the length of the trail. Weavers, lots
more, at a guess 3 to 6 times the length of the passives depending on the
pattern, and the amount of filling. If using a sewing edge/pin after 4 the
weavers trade places so less thread is needed per weaver pair than when
using one weaver pair all the way through, but the weavers will still need
'lots.'
One can get a good idea of the amounts per passive by placing a single
thread all along the curving trail, then measuring that thread. I do this
for the entire length if it is a small Russian tape pattern, could get away
with measuring a quarter of the design if it is large, multiply by 4 for
the length per passive bobbin.
Allow more thread on the passive edge pairs for the extra twist, if using
CTCT at the edges, and especially for the passive pair that will depart
with the weaver to do any fillings, and though it seems a small amount
allow for the tethers on all bobbins as well!
Hope this helps.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Sue su...@talktalk.net wrote:


 BUT by question is how on earth do I calculate the amount of thread I might
 need to purchase at the same time to make sure I had enough for the whole
 thing.  I have tried in the past to estimate for a set of napkins and
 have...


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Sue
Thank you for the voice of sanity,  My mind couldn't consider where to begin 
but having read this it is so obvious and I bet several of you are laughing 
at the screen right now.   So first to find a paper pattern shape and start 
playing with a pencil.   I knew it would be lots of thread especially the 
worker pair but thank you for reminding me about the next one too it as well 
which obviously does go off wandering a bit more than just the straight 
passing way.Yes your answer helps a great deal so I will save it to file 
for later on.

Many thanks
Sue T

Hello Sue and everyone

For a pattern for a garment, using a minimal number of bobbins, the broad
answer is 'lots' of thread.

One can get a good idea of the amounts per passive by placing a single
thread all along the curving trail, then measuring that thread. I do this
for the entire length if it is a small Russian tape pattern, could get away
with measuring a quarter of the design if it is large, multiply by 4 for
the length per passive bobbin.
Allow more thread on the passive edge pairs for the extra twist, if using
CTCT at the edges, and especially for the passive pair that will depart
with the weaver to do any fillings, and though it seems a small amount
allow for the tethers on all bobbins as well!
Hope this helps.
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Little Danish Heart pattern

2014-08-14 Thread anneke

Carol wrote to Jeri:
I want you to know I read your your writings and appreciate you sharing your 
knowledge with all of us.


Dear Jeri,

Carol is right!
I also read your writings and have learned a lot from it.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Anneke Reijs, in Baexem, The Netherlands
ann...@reijs.nl
www.reijs.eu

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Re: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread Beth Marshall
I'm sure Jacquie is right here...

Jeri, I can't claim to read _*all*_ your posts in detail - some of the 
topics are of more interest to me than others, and with limited time for 
emails I have to skim-read many posts - but I've learnt a lot from the 
ones that have caught my interest and I know other people appreciate 
your articles on subjects I'm not as interested in. Even if the archives 
disappear a considerable amount of information will already have been 
absorbed by other lacemakers or saved in their files, so your articles 
will not have been a waste of effort.

Regards

Beth


  Jacquie Tinch wrote:
 Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure there 
 are enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue.

 Jacquie in Lincolnshire.

   jeria...@aol.com wrote:



 I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on
 Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a 
 subject
 for dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just
 writing for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or, 
 maybe
 our archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did), and
 all will have been for  naught.

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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[lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Lorelei Halley
Sue
The only way I can think of is by ratio and proportion.  Design a small square
for a design similar to what you plan for the bolero and work it in the same
thread you plan to use. Measure the square cm. When you get the finished shape
of the bolero, measure its square cm. Go by ratio.  Or go by weight. You will
know, or can measure the weight of 1 spool of the thread you will use. (Most
manufacturers give you the weight rather than length in meters or yards.) You
then measure the weight of the finished little square. Then do a ratio
equation.

Y = sq cm of little square
W = weight of finished square of y sq cm
bolero = S sq cm
S/Y = H  how many little squares make up the size of the bolero
H x W =  T  TOTAL WEIGHT of thread needed for bolero
Z = weight of thread on spool
T/Z =  number of spools  of thread you will need

Lorelei

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Re: [lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread Jacquie Tinch
But don't forget that even the middle, straight cloth stitch passives use more 
than the length of the braid, as they are going up and down through the weave. 

The edge passives are used along with the workers for any plaited/leaf fillings 
so they can need a lot more thread. 

The cable or chain gimp(s) (which is/are what give Russian lace a lot of their 
texture and impact) are constantly twisting so also need more than a direct 
measurement. 

As far as I can see the colours on Gutterman's silks are constant enough that 
you could work the first section and then buy as many spools as that indicates 
you'll need. 

Do some samples to be sure you want to work it in silk, how many pairs (worker, 
2 twisted edge passives, 2 or 4 plain passives, 1 or 2 gimp pairs) and to 
choose what thread you are going to use for your much thicker gimp. Russian 
lace normally is made with a matt finish thread with the thick gimp sometimes 
having a sheen. 

More important is to think what pillow you're going to use to work a large 
project like this, where there will be times you are working towards yourself, 
at the far side of the lace. If you don't get it right you'll have nagging back 
and shoulder ache and not be able to work the long hours needed to finish it in 
three months. 

The bolero (assuming it was the pale blue one that's been on Facebook today 
that you saw) was probably worked on a large bolster pillow which allows you to 
twist and turn with the lace, and stay relatively close to where you're 
working, but you'd need to work palms up with open stitches. Not easy to start 
off with. 

If you are doing your own design may I suggest that you do it such a way as you 
be able to work just the fronts, or the whole thing. Start with a front and 
then if you can see part way through that either time or dedication constraints 
make the whole thing unachievable, you could make just the fronts with a fabric 
back. Unless you work fairly fast, it can get tedious to do. 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire 

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Re: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread M Lynn Scott
I am coming out of lurking as well to say that I too read your posts Jeri, 
there is always something new and very informative and helpful in what you 
freely offer and I, like so many, appreciate your knowledgeable and helpful 
contributions.  It must take quite a bit of your time so thank you for what you 
contribute.

Lynn S in Australia

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RE: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread Annette Meldrum
Jeri how can any of us presume to know what others do? I for one file your
information for future reference after reading and have used it in talks at
my local Lace Guild meetings and other groups.
I too have posted on Arachne with no response from the masses but that
doesn't mean that no one read my posting.
We all wait for someone else to respond or read it too long after the event
to think that a reply is polite.
My email files are huge as I am always behind in my reading but file and
keep anything of interest once read. Thus my folders on conservation, book
reviews, history of lace and lace identification are huge! In all I have
around 60 folders but can usually find anything that comes to mind. It is
just the librarian in me I guess! And there are so many librarians on this
list! Since Arachne started I have never just trusted the archive but have
made my own. At times I have sent files of emails on a topic to friends when
asked.

Thanks again for using your resource centre and your knowledge to educate
lacemakers worldwide. Don't' stop. Many do read and appreciate!
Best regards
Annette in Wollongong, Australia

Beth Marshall wrote;I'm sure Jacquie is right here...

a considerable amount of information will already have been absorbed by
other lacemakers or saved in their files, so your articles will not have
been a waste of effort.

Regards Beth


  Jacquie Tinch wrote:
 Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure
there are enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue.

 Jacquie in Lincolnshire.

   jeria...@aol.com wrote:
 I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on 
 Arachne.   
  Maybe I am just writing for future researchers who will delve  into 
 Arachne archives?  

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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Re: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread Karen Bovard
I LOVE reading what you write!  Please continue to contribute.  
 
Of course
not every post will pertain/be of interest to every person.   
 
There are so
few posts anyway.  I remember when this forum was THE place to go for
information.  Now I don't know how to connect with other tatters/lacemakers. 
I don't have the time to go to a site and then sift through the discussions
such as InTattersI wish I did have the time.  I also don't have the time
to sift through FB or other venues.  I liked the fact that articles would come
to me and I could quickly skim through them to find the ones of interest to
me.
 
Karen Bovard
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:27 PM, Beth Marshall
b...@capuchin.co.uk wrote:
  


I'm sure Jacquie is right here...

Jeri, I
can't claim to read _*all*_ your posts in detail - some of the 
topics are of
more interest to me than others, and with limited time for 
emails I have to
skim-read many posts - but I've learnt a lot from the 
ones that have caught
my interest and I know other people appreciate 
your articles on subjects I'm
not as interested in. Even if the archives 
disappear a considerable amount of
information will already have been 
absorbed by other lacemakers or saved in
their files, so your articles 
will not have been a waste of effort.

Regards
Beth


  Jacquie Tinch wrote:
 Maybe *some people* don't read what you write
on Arachne but I'm sure there are enough of us who do to justify asking you to
continue.

 Jacquie in Lincolnshire.

  jeria...@aol.com wrote:



 I
was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on
 Arachne. 
So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a subject
 for
dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just
 writing
for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or, maybe
 our
archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did), and
 all
will have been for  naught.

 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery
Resource Center
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RE: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread malvaryj
This has been interesting because I didn't receive Jeri's post, nor Jacquie's.
I did go back to check because someone else (Sue?) replied to Jeri about
thread, and I thought -'that's weird, I don't remember seeing that' and now I
hadn't seen these messages either.  Interesting that both of these are aol
messages.  Perhaps when I think Jacquie hasn't replied to me, she has, but I
just haven't received the message
Malvary in Ottawa where it is only 14c and showery.



   Jacquie Tinch wrote:
  Maybe *some people* don't read what you write on Arachne but I'm sure
there are enough of us who do to justify asking you to continue.
 
  Jacquie in Lincolnshire.


jeria...@aol.com wrote:

  I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on
  Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a
subject
  for dinner conversation or a local lace group  meeting.  Maybe I am just
  writing for future researchers who will delve  into Arachne archives?  Or,
maybe
  our archives will die and evaporate (as  our early correspondence did),
and
  all will have been for  naught.
 
  Jeri Ames in Maine USA
  Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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Re: [lace] How can you estimate thread

2014-08-14 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Sue,
I would add to this.  I have two cloth stitch tapes on the side of my altar 
cloth pattern.  I actually measured the distance the worker pair went per pass, 
multiplied it by the number of passes per motif, so I had an idea of the amount 
needed for the worker pair.  I then multiplied that figure by 1.5 so I could go 
without adding a pair and allow for twists and inaccuracies.  This is not a 
foolproof method, and I suggest doubling the figure you get for the actual use 
to allow for the way lace eats up thread, but it is a start.  I keep notes on 
how much thread I wind on, and how much is left over so I know if my method 
works.  Usually I wind too much thread, but that is better than the alternative 
in my opinion.  I'm using linen, and that's relatively cheap.  If I were using 
an expensive thread, I might think differently.  Thread is the cheapest thing 
we use to make lace.

When I know how much to put on a bobbin, and it's a number of yards, but could 
be meters, I wind the amount on a yardstick first, and put the right amount on 
the bobbin.  When I'm done, I measure how much is left, roughly on the bobbins 
if it's significant, so I can be more accurate the next time.  I don't do this 
for everything, certainly, but when I'm doing the same pattern over and over, 
this record keeping can help winding a more accurate amount of thread the next 
time around for the same patterns, and I'm making 3 strips of each size.  

Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA


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Bev wrote:
For a pattern for a garment, using a minimal number of bobbins, the broad
answer is 'lots' of thread.

One can get a good idea of the amounts per passive by placing a single
thread all along the curving trail, then measuring that thread. I do this
for the entire length if it is a small Russian tape pattern, could get away
with measuring a quarter of the design if it is large, multiply by 4 for
the length per passive bobbin.
Allow more thread on the passive edge pairs for the extra twist, if using
CTCT at the edges, and especially for the passive pair that will depart
with the weaver to do any fillings, and though it seems a small amount
allow for the tethers on all bobbins as well!
Hope this helps.
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada


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Re: [lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread Tammy
I too, although usually a lurker, read and save Jeri's posts.  Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:44 PM, M Lynn Scott bunnyrosena...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am coming out of lurking as well to say that I too read your posts Jeri, 
 there is always something new and very informative and helpful in what you 
 freely offer and I, like so many, appreciate your knowledgeable and helpful 
 contributions.  It must take quite a bit of your time so thank you for what 
 you contribute.
 
 Lynn S in Australia
 
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[lace] To Jeri.

2014-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Dear Jeri,

I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on  
Arachne.  ...

 What Nonsense!!. (that is the polite version of what I said on reading the
digest just now!!  I really used a good Aussie expression! :) )

 I am sure most people on the list, are like me, - and read every word.
Your knowledge, and generosity in sharing it with us all, is amazing, and we
Love to hear from you. . Whoever said that is talking Utter Nonsense.

What an offensive remark to make.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Jeri's posts

2014-08-14 Thread Avital
Jeri,

I think I can speak for others when I say that your contributions are
valuable and well-written. Sometimes the value of your postings isn't
apparent until much later, when someone searches the archives.

The only problem that I can see is that sometimes it's very hard to
receive your posts because of your AOL address, but that's not
something the recipients can control. We had a recent discussion about
spam filters trashing AOL messages (I had to create a filter so that I
could receive your postings).

I hope that you will continue to post and share your considerable
store of knowledge with us! As for the AOL problem, at some point you
might want to consider setting up a Gmail account, while continuing to
use AOL as your ISP.

Avital
in hot, sunny, relatively rocket-free Maale Adumim, Israel


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 I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on
 Arachne.  So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions  might suggest a 
 subject


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