Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page
Yahoo had 2 or 3 serious security breaches, and if your account is likely one of those whose information was stolen, they are insisting that you change the password for your own protection. One of mine was among them, and since then I've had a true plague of spam purporting to come from my own account - not the yahoo one, but the contact I had provided for yahoo. On 12/30/16 4:36 PM, Beth Marshall wrote: Hi Sue and everyone Has anyone but me had difficulty logging into the arachne flickr page to upload photos recently? I've just tried to add a picture of the lace I took off the pillow last Christmas and finally finished mounting today, but although yahoo still recognises the password below it then insists this needs to be changed and won't let me in unless I invent a new password... I've tried reconfirming the existing one but yahoo just complains that's too similar to the existing password, so I've given up for the moment... Beth On 26/09/14 22:15, Sue Babbs wrote: For future reference to upload photos to Flickr: The REALLY important first part is to make sure you are logged in to Yahoo (and thus Flickr) as arachne2003 - not yourself.SO logout as yourself first, then log in to http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/ as arachne2003 , password LaceMaker1 Note that the upper and lower cases must be as shown above. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Martha Krieg Michigan, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Australian Christmas Treat
My mother used to make a boiled salad dressing for spring greens with egg yolk and vinegar - very zingy. It was served cold. But lemon butter is totally yummy! Now I want to know what to do with the 4 egg yolks!!!?? More Lemon Butter I suppose. David in Ballarat, AUS To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Retirement
It definitely takes planning, rather than waiting until all else is done! On 11/8/14 4:11 AM, scotl...@aol.com wrote: How very, very true! Patricia in Wales On 2014/11/08 05:22 AM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Retirement. They all promised me when retirement was due, I'd be doing so much with my lace. I'd have oodles of time To plan and create, And have projects all over the place. But then the day came, And I planned to sit down With all of that thread that I'd bought. With pins and my pillows And bobbins galore And great piles of books just to sort. But where does the time go? I really can't say The days seem to disappear fast. As the days now fly by I seem to do LESS Just where did I find time in the past! -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Pennsic Wars
http://citypaper.net/article.php?Reports-from-a-medieval-war-20974 -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Old Testament computing
Has there really been nothing posted to lace-chat since 6/22? On 6/22/14, 3:32 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: Old Testament computing -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Old Testament computing
Oh, I've done that! Both at lace vendor stalls and at the Medieval Congress in Kalamazoo! When I get my act together, I put a download of our Bibliofile database (just a FileMaker database with a funny name, not a special program) on my iPad where I can readily search it as a spreadsheet. But sometimes I forget to take the latest version, or find I left it in the dorm, or just the booth is so crowded I don't want to bother checking.. Janice, someone on this list might like to take it off your hands. Sorry for my own low participation lately - the last couple of years at work were much, much busier than usual (requiring about a 30% increment in time spent there), so I decided to retire - which of course has meant that I dumped a batch of stuff from the cube in my house that now needs to be integrated sanely. Also was sent to a conference in France, and my colleague enticed me to visit her at her family home in Bruges (poor me!); we also went to Ghent together. Yes, I got a few minutes in at the Kantcentrum, and the store across from it, and wandered around Brussels for half a day on my own. That was two weeks out of the country, and I came back to work just two days before retiring. Just last Friday, returned from 10 days in the Middle Ages at the Pennsic Wars with my daughter and her family and about 10,350 other people... On 8/15/14, 4:52 PM, Janice Blair wrote: I haven't seen anything on Chat for ages. Maybe we should start a discussion on something. I was patting myself on the back for not buying a duplicate book during the week at convention, only to purchase a book on the last morning, knowing I would be unlikely to buy such an expensive book before. I had some spending cash left that morning so decided to splurge. Darn, when I went to enter it in My Library on my phone at home, I had a copy on the shelf. Ulrike Voelcker's Mitt Rippe Und Rolle, $65 down the tube. I had checked my phone library list when I looked for other books but didn't think to check this one. Don't you hate it when you make an expensive mistake. What is your worst mistake with lace making supplies, or even anything that you regret purchasing. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org On Friday, August 15, 2014 8:00 AM, Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk wrote: Has there really been nothing posted to lace-chat since 6/22? According to the archive there has only been one post since 6/22 and that was Removing stains on 5 July Jill in Milton Keynes To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com mailto:majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. mailto:y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. mailto:arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] flour sacks vs flour sacks -- moved from Lace
When I was a teenager in the 1960s, there were still three or four printed flour sacks from the farm my father grew up on - a lovely rich blue with white flowers I used to make a skirt, and another one or two white with little floral bouquets on them. The fabric got nice and soft after a few washings, and I loved that skirt! On 1/13/14 9:11 PM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote: The Belgian flour sacks I saw were white, with the embroidery on them. The pre and post war USA flour sacks that the common people bought their flour in were pretty printed cotton fabrics. People made their own bread and used lots of flour. With careful buying, a family could acquire several sacks with the same print. As a child, some of my favorite dresses were made from flour sack materials. My grandmother's kitchen curtains were also from flour sacks. The printed fabric looked just like fabric from the store. The underwear that was embarrassing was made from white flour sacks with Smith Premium Flour or such words on it that would not wash out. A child did not want Premium across his rear. It told anyone who saw it that the family didn't have money to buy new fabric for underwear. The flour sack clothes would have been nicer if they had had lace on them. Alice in Oregon -- getting ready for lace meeting tonight -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Arachne Christmas Card Exchange
Have there really been no messages since 22 September? It doesn't seem likely but there are none in my inbox and none in the postini spam filter either! -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] S'mores
Indeed, they are so popular that some stores like Bed, Bath, 'n Beyond have an appliance to toast the marshmallows on - I suppose for those who live in climates where most of the year, you can't be outside toasting marshmallows and who do not have fireplaces in their houses. Though they are in the wild toasted almost exclusively on outdoor bonfires, not in fireplaces or over gas burners in the kitchen. (Personally, I go for general purpose appliances like saucepans and non-electric skillets, and for s'mores or hot-dogs, a wire toasting fork that extends to take less storage space, but keep your hand safe!) It's so popular in the USA that companies have taken the three flavors and made S'mores Ice Cream, and the local pie shop has S'mores Pie. There's probably more products out there. Alice in Oregon ... -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified!!
No, I'd be very interested, too. On 2/4/13 12:39 PM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: OK, so am I the only person who wants to see an analysis of the DNA of the bodies found in the Tower a few years ago, thought to be the Little Princes? Devon To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Good old days
We did not have a TV until I was 6. I remember going with my mother and brother to a neighbor's to watch the coronation of Elizabeth II. -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] A tale of two camels
At the Fiber Fest last Fall, there were many booths with various fibers - including live angora rabbits in their owners' laps with the fur being spun right off them. The fair was held at a county fairgrounds which has stalls for livestock exhibits - and in one of them were a couple of camels - the largest, a male, named. you guessed it! And he was a prima donna. Loved attention! On 5/13/12 2:57 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: Once upon a time there was a very handsome male camel with two huge camel humps. He fell in love and married a beautiful female camel who had one perfect camel hump. As time progressed, they became the proud parents of a wonderful baby camel who had no humps. They contemplated long and hard on what to call their beautiful little boy. They finally decided on . . . Humphrey . Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Borrowing film and card
Maybe a new shower-curtain, or perhaps film to screen a window for privacy? The card could be a room divider, or Arietty could color it for lineoleum... On 4/9/12 10:21 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: Afternoon all Now does anyone have any idea what the Borrowers were using my pricking card and blue film for?? Off on a Lace Weekend in a few weeks and I need to get the pattern pricked and the bobbins wound. Yesterday I went looking for my blue film and card in the cupboard where I knew it was... It was NOT!!! Searched for an hour last night before giving up this morning I decided to get the bobbin winder out of the cupboard (yes, the same one) and there was the card and film!!! Oh, and the winder was there exactly where I knew it would be My DH says that it 'just popped out of existence' yesterday think he's been watching too much sci-fi I much prefer the puzzle of what the borrowers were using it for Any ideas?? Sue in a damp, drizzly East Yorkshire To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Green thing
And even the craft shopping is not as much fun as it should be, because invariably if one is looking for a particular object, one will find everything BUT that object! On 1/31/12 6:12 PM, Agnes Boddington wrote: What do you mean: Shopping is becoming a real chore ..? I loathe shopping, shopping for food, shopping for clothes or shoes etc. The only shopping I like is craft stuff shopping! Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Brain Study
It depends partly on the visual similarity between the characters - a straight top and a (mostly vertical) line pair the T and 7, 3 and E are only a flip away, 4 is missing only a bit of the A, etc. It's harder if you mix the numerals in with lower-case letters where your eye expects to see something more different.a and 4 are not nearly so similar... On 10/3/11 2:52 PM, Janice Blair wrote: 1 D1N7 H4V 3NY PR0BL3M 2 Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org From: Jean Nathanj...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: Chatlace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 12:16:36 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Brain Study Good example of a Brain Study: If you can read this you have a strong mind: 7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Under the sea-ice
Or be very, very hungry... On 8/22/11 12:20 PM, Janice Blair wrote: Incredible. They must really like mussels. :-) Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org You would not catch me doing this! Very interesting what natives have done for ages, you won't regret watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z0qGvC3vqaAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z0qGvC3vqaA David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Got long hair?
I'm not on Lace, so have missed the rest of this thread - but I can almost sit on my hair now. It used to stop growing when it hit my bra-band, but the grey hair seems to be less fragile... I'd had it fairly long as a teenager, but cut it after my first child was born because the new hair coming in wouldn't stay neatly in place. On 8/17/11 2:18 PM, Agnes Boddington wrote: Hi Linda I went to the hairdresser at one point (I think I was about 10-11) and had my plaits - which hung down to the back of my knees - cut off, and came out with the shortest hair I have ever had in my life. I did it on a whim, using my piggy bank money to pay the hairdresser. S/he did ask whether my parents agreed this was ok, and of course I said yes. Needless to say, my parents were horrified, and I immediately grew my hair again, but never quite as long as it was then. I later sold my plaits to a doll maker and got what was for me a nice sum of money for them . Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA God expects spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: Re: [lace-chat] Boogie Woogie
My husband received one of those transfer decks for Christmas a couple of years ago - but that particular one doesn't do 78s, alas. From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Date: 2011/03/30 Wed AM 07:09:25 EST To: Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net CC: lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Boogie Woogie A few years ago, I found a turn-table which was made expressly for digitizing music from vinyl to CDs! It has a USB connection to the computer, and plays 78, 45, and 33 speeds. I gave it to my DH for Christmas, and he loves it. He is an avid collector of music, and has been transferring his favorite albums to CDs for months now. I have a collection of my Dad's old 78s from the 30's and 40's, but haven't even tried to work with them. I suspect the condition is pretty bad, and don't want to gum up the works on this machine until DH has done all the transferring he wants! Clay On 3/29/2011 11:03 PM, Martha Krieg wrote: This and the big bands was what my parents primarily played, and I've missed it. The 78s we have no equipment that will play them, and they are so worn that my father didn't bother to transcribe them to reel-to-reel. It's been a relief to find some of my favorites on re-issues on CD! To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Boogie Woogie
This and the big bands was what my parents primarily played, and I've missed it. The 78s we have no equipment that will play them, and they are so worn that my father didn't bother to transcribe them to reel-to-reel. It's been a relief to find some of my favorites on re-issues on CD! On 3/23/11 3:47 PM, Lesley Blackshaw wrote: On 23/03/2011 19:19, jeanette wrote: For the young at heart and good long memories, go and watch this boobie Woogie. Thanks to Clay we have a tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/2ahy96h Fantastic video. I was brought up on this music (dad was a piano and trumpet player) so this definitely brought back some memories. Those dancers - wow - they are amazing. Lesley To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 -- Martha Krieg Michigan USA To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] 16th century gift of the sable
Leonardo DaVinci has a painting of a lady with a sable; it was the animal. Like a fur-piece. From: Tatman tat...@tat-man.net Date: 2010/11/16 Tue AM 08:32:18 EST To: lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: [lace-chat] 16th century gift of the sable Hello fellow historians/lacemakers, Since this doesn't have to do with lace, but more of historical measures, I guess I post this on lace chat. I have a friend who is reading a book that takes place in the 16th century. As she explains in her email to me below, the man character is giving a sable as a gift to his lady which she adorns on her gown. Is this sable the animal or some other accessory/item? From what I have found so far on the net is that it was a treasure to receive a sable and to display it on your gown as a status symbol. My friend's email is below for you to read. Your thoughts and explanation of the significance of this ritual would be appreciated. Thanks, -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats -- Forwarded Message Brittany wrote: I have a question for you, and I'm hoping you'll know the answer to it because it's driving me insane. I'm reading a book that takes place in 16th century England, and the man character keeps speaking of getting sables as gifts which she puts on her gowns. I tried looking it up, and the only thing I can find is fur. Is that what it means or is it something else? -- End of Forwarded Message To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] 16th century gift of a sable
Flea-fur, truly. EVERYONE had fleas (and lice, and bedbugs), there was no need to be delicate about it. They didn't necessarily know that fleas required warm bodies, and they probably did lurk in the furs as good hiding places that were close enough to the bar for comfort. I've heard that lapdogs in the 18th century were intended to fulfill the same purpose -- come to think of it, I believe both these tidbits came from a presentation at an SCA Known World Costuming Symposium a few years ago specifically on the zibellini. My grandmother had a two-or-three-whole-mink thingie that she used to wear around her neck. I have it now (and when you think about it, any mink alive in 1954 would have been long dead by now, so it's not as though I had anything to do with their demise), but in a university town, I've hesitated to appear in public with it! Martha To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Amnerican meat: was lamb
I've had grass-fed beef (which costs more and is only available in a few places around here), and it is MUCH more flavorful while being leaner. It doesn't have to be tough, though it's likely to be firmer than what we are used to. At 6:30 AM -0400 10/22/10, Linda Kukolich wrote: Unless the reason that the meat in the US is flavorless is that it is grain fed, and flavorless industrial grain at that. I know it makes a difference to the taste of milk based on what cows eat. I'm sure it also makes a difference in the taste of the meat. We might need the fat in the meat to make a boring cut taste like anything at all... Linda, a lurker for over a decade Helen wrote: I remember having an argument with a butcher in my grocery store one time in Denver over the quality of the steaks. I complained that they were all too marbled and fatty, and he said they were the best because the more marbled they were the more flavourful they were. Jean replied: He's right. I was told that nearly 50 years ago, and am still being told it today. I buy rib-eye steaks and look for light marbling and a good area of fat near the middle. The fat and marbled fat seeps into the red flesh and gives the flavour and tenderness. Without it, there'd be nothing like the flavour there is and it could be tough as old boots. And beef has to be hung for at least three weeks to bring out the flavour (rotting if you like). I lightly beat them, sprinkle with freshly ground black pepper and give them about 90 seconds each side in a very hot non-stick pan without oil or fat added. Block with kitchen towel so they're not running with blood, and they're delicious and fall apart. I can say this with confidence as someone who has just been able to start eating red meat again after nearly 10 years of it making me ill. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Re: Cell phones
Well, 25 years ago I was teaching computer science, and would find that my students were in the computer lab sitting close to each other sending email (which was pretty new to the average student then). I think it's the lure of the cool. Clay, I have seen teens and 20 year olds (who I know personally) standing beside each other.texting each other! I know this because curiousity caught me and I will go up to them and ask if they are texting each other. Yeah. I give them a blank stare of wonderment and shake my head. A WHOLE other social world out there Mark, aka Tatman who can claim old fart status too!! :-D To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Cell phones
I thought having a camera in a phone was ridiculous - until we had a particular edition of a Christmas Carol book that everyone in the medieval choir wanted to have, and one fellow whipped out his phone and took a picture of the cover. Since there were several by the same publisher with different covers, it made PERFECT sense. Texting is lovely when you are someplace with poor cell phone reception, but the texts can get through. My DIL and DD started texting each other when granddaughter Lucy was in the hospital for over a month starting August 31 (she was getting a new liver and turning a year old at the same time) - typical message: Call when you are awake. A single beep, less annoying than a repeated ring, and they weren't constantly alarmed by phone calls - it was clear a text meant nothing was seriously wrong, just contact desired. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Unexpected occurrence
Our 26-year-old son Ian was found dead of natural causes in his apartment in Washington state last month. Life has been totally chaotic since then, and looks like staying so for a while. He didn't yet know that he'd been promoted at work... Obituary is at www.annarbor.com; scroll down to the bottom of the page and look in the obituaries if you are interested. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Aussie lifestyle
Tomato relish and chutney to me are chopped up bits of tomato/mango/whatever with spices and (in the case of chutney) ginger, etc. That's not ketchup - at least not American ketchup (known to some as catsup). That is a smooth, thickish tomato sauce the consistency of thick yoghurt. I make all my chutney for my curries, and would make tomato relish if we ate it, but nobody I ever heard of makes their own ketchup (though one could) - everybody buys it, and it used to come only in tall, slender glass jars that were impossible to pour it out of. Now it often comes in a squeeze bottle which is much more convenient. http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Homemade-Ketchup-109037 If you try making this, be aware that the combination of tomato and sugar is going to want to go dark brown on the bottom of the pan quite easily. My husband has always preferred to add ketchup to his mother's (and our) home-made spaghetti sauce on his plate...but sometimes cheats when he cooks the spaghetti and instead adds some vinegar, clove, and sugar to the sauce (NOT the way I like it, though!). Ketchup is a tomato based condiment with vinegar in it, often kept on the table to be put on hamburgers, hot dogs, French fries along with mustard. Hm - I wonder then if it might be the same as what we call Tomato Relish - much nicer than Tomato Sauce - perhaps a cross between that and Tomato Chutney !!! David To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Love and marriage
We were visiting his parents in Maryland and had been to the Lutheran Christmas Eve service. My hair was all done up (by a hairdresser for once!) because we'd been to a diplomatic party the night before - his father was in the foreign service - and I was wearing a red velvet dress I'd made that had white lace sleeves with velvet wristbands. (No, I didn't make the lace. This was long before I learned to do that!) It seemed to take forever for his sisters and parents to go to bed as we watched the lights on the Christmas tree. Finally, they did, and by the Christmas tree he asked me if I'd be willing to be his wife, and gave me the emerald-cut diamond I still wear. That was in 1967; we married in June of 1968 two days before his college graduation. I turned 20 the day before the ceremony. In the Fall, I went back to college for my junior year, and he was drafted into the Army for Vietnam. So it's been 41 years now, three kids and a slew of foreign exchange students. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace] Food in odd places
I suppose the person who arranges it thinks of it as food for people with special requirements, and the only sign available is Vegetarian? -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace-chat] Food in odd places
I suppose the person who arranges it thinks of it as food for people with special requirements, and the only sign available is Vegetarian? -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Need a Name Please
Rhythm 'n Muse ? Allegro con moto? (assuming there's going to be motion as well as notes) Rock a bye is suitable for the youngest, but will probably alienate the 5-7 year olds, especially males, who want desperately NOT to be considered babies. Calypso is just one style... Hey presto sounds like a magic course... -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Are you new to lace or was it passed on?
Totally new to it; I have a piece from my grandmother (something I now know to be a 20th century piece from China, because there's a matching one in some of her linens with the label still on), but which I found entrancing as a child teenager. I put learn to make lace on my list of things to do (together with learning Basque, which hasn't happened yet!). I did see Mary McPeek demonstrating in 1973 or 1974, but was a totally impoverished graduate student with no time (if it was 1974, I was also pregnant). Later, I discovered the Great Lakes Lace Group when they advertised Spring Fling in Threads (I think it was) the year of the stamps. I took Carrickmacross that Spring Fling, but went to a meeting the following month and asked about bobbin lace teachers. I'm still taking classes from Kathleen Campbell... -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] sky blue pink
And my mother in central Ohio used sky blue pink with a heavenly border - usually to answer one of those unanswerable childhood questions about what color the curtains were going to be... It kept me puzzling for years! And from Cheshire, it was sky blue pink with a finny haddy border. I never asked but assumed that finny haddy stood for Finnan haddock, but maybe not! (At least it would still be a yellow border!) Mom always used sky-blue pink as it was, but also ginger-pink with black spots - like me, she was born in Birmingham - though her family came from Herefordshire and Wiltshire. I'm not sure I ever heard my father use either - he and his forebears were born in Stamford, Lincs. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Poodle skirts
And because felt has no grain line, and needs no hem. So you can cut a full circle, sew on a poodle (look at lots of 50's stuff: white poodles with rhinestone collars were IN, at least in graphic art!), put on a waistband, and you're good to go. -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Lace-makers' figures
I suspect that a good many of us live quite sedentary lives to begin with, and when we add in a sedentary hobby, voila. At the least, every hour we spend lacing (or chatting about lacing) is an hour we AREN'T exercising - unless you've managed to prop a pillow or a laptop on a treadmill! -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Providence?
Oh, Carol! Better than having someone DIE in your potential house, but still pretty bad. This sort of thing can affect more than the walls immediately damaged.Be sure to have someone very knowledgeable check the entire structural integrity of the place. A 200-year-old oak fell on my in-laws' house in Maryland, and knocked it 6 inches back on its foundation! (Fortunately MIL was NOT taking her usual nap on the lounge chair in the room the tree primarily hit that day!). -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] FW: New Exercise Program
Ah well, then there's the other exercise program: Up, down, Up, down. Pant, Pant Alright, now the other eyelid! -- -- Martha Krieg mkr...@rc.net in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Invading hordes...
Another thought is that the old cat might enjoy teaching the youngster to hunt (a skill usually passed from queen to kitten, but often lacking in a cat if its parents were brought up indoors, or if it was taken from the queen too early), while at the same time being able to sit back and watch the youngster do the energetic bit! This cat's first reaction to a mouse (many, many years ago) was to pursue it when it came up the basement stairs, corner it at the foot of the stairs to the second floor --- and back off in terror when it began to squeak in alarm! She was born in a townhouse across the street from me, and to my knowledge has only killed one mouse in all her 20 years. Since she's not noticing the mice now, and spends her entire day asleep on either the recliner, my husband's lap, or mine, she's beyond teaching anyone something she was never much interested in or talented at, alas. When we moved here in 1987, our original cat zoomed out the door, not to be seen again for two months (the humane society called me the day before she was scheduled to be put down - they didn't pair her picture up with her quickly). A month into her absence, my friends for my birthday gave me this 9-week-old kitten (whom I'd first met at age 3 hours, when she went to sleep in my hand for 20 minutes!). When the old cat came back, never again would she sleep on our bed - she abandoned that to the new cat. On the other hand, only ONE lap in the living room could be occupied, and only by the old cat (10 at the time). That older cat lived another 9 years, but the two of them never did care for each other. We had what we called cat wars - mad chases around the house from time to time, nasty swipes at the passing cat on the floor from the one on the piano bench, etc. I really don't want to do that to this one at this stage. I'm actually allergic to cats, but they do great things for my blood pressure and general attitude; I would like to get from the humane society what they call a Purrfect Pair - that is, a pair of cats that has been living together and would like to be adopted together, but that's a lot to ask poor Snuggles (sorry - I didn't name her!) to endure. I've been giving her special kidney-function kibbles, and cat vitamins+nutritional supplement - but she's still gone from being over 11 pounds down to about six and a half, and now even after I wipe her down with the cat shampoo and tease out the kitty dreadlocks (never had to do that when she could groom herself!), her coat is dulling. When she jumps down from a lap, her hindquarters give out. It's just a matter of time before she's history - but she still knows when it's food time, and when I should be in my prayer chair! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Invading hordes...
A slight exaggeration I hope. For the past six weeks or so, I've been aware of mouse-in-the-house syndrome (and it hadn't even started to get cold yet). I first found them in the 5-gallon plastic bin in the basement with the cat food; a yard sale provided a stainless steel breadbox, which laid on its back with the shelf scooted down made an effective place to keep that. In the past couple of weeks we've now caught six of them - four quite small, two much larger. I don't know whether we have two varieties, just natural sex differences in size, or grown-ups and children. The open cereal is now in Boy Scout popcorn tins (no sign they'd found it, but it was only a matter of time)... they seem to like the cozy dark spaces under the refrigerator and the stove, but obviously roam the counters and stove top as well... Clearly, the 21.5-year-old cat is no deterrent at all, as I've seen them flit from one place to another while she was in the same room and neither of them seemed aware of the other. Can't get another cat until this one dies - it would be just too traumatic for the old one -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Messages going to the wrong file
At 9:15 PM +0100 9/1/08, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Those emails are not from legitimate banks - they are spam. No real bank would ever send you an unsolicited email asking you to verify your details. Just hit the delete button, and DONT reply. Worse than just spam - they are phishing, hoping to entice you into entering your information, so they can rip you off. Even if it is your very own bank where you have accounts, NEVER fill in that sort of detail when requested by an e-mail. The other thing is spoofing, filling in a fake From address - that's how you get spam ostensibly from yourself, and why you should not blame your friends for sending you spam of the male enhancement sort (can't answer for the chain-letter sort; that might really be from your friend!). The spam-generating program can take your address book and send to everyone in it, and spoof the return address as being from anyone in it as well. All is not what it seems on the surface. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] tapioca pudding and other desserts
Maybe the difference in description comes from the size of the tapioca. We can get two kinds, regular and pearl. Pearl tapioca cooks up almost a full 1/4 across; the regular size is like bubbles. I just follow the recipe on the box, but I put a stick of cinnamon in while I'm heating the milk (I do that while boiling the rice with water in the first part of making rice pudding, too - and just leave it in). The tapioca needs to soak - the pearl kind for several hours, maybe even overnight, so it softens up all the way through. Sorry- no box in view in the cabinet right now, or I'd write it in. The rice pudding recipe I use came from the Farm Journal Best Home Cooking in America cookbook. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Eudora
And I'm still happily using Eudora on Leopard, in spite of its not being supported... -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
I think you mean cartridge pleating. What you need is four or five rows of parallel hand stitching, each stitch about 1/4 or 3/16 long, and the rows of stitching no more than 1/4 to 3/8 apart, with the under stitch on each row at the same mark. You have to mark the lines, and preferably also mark the stitch positions. I've done it on the Folkwear dirndl, and it came out really well. Use button-and-carpet thread, and leave a long tail on each end. Then pull them up, and tie pairs of the gathering threads together. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
The sizes I gave are appropriate for a broadcloth skirt; if you want them finer than that, then you need to make the stitches shorter. On the other hand, if you mean long vertical lines, you are talking pin tucks, and there are feet to do that -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pleated gathering?
The other thing about regular gathering: the instructions all say to run one line of gathering thread ON the seam line and another 1/4 into the seam allowance. If instead you run one 1/8 inside the seam allowance and the other 1/8 into the garment, then pull up the gathers and sew ON the seam allowance halfway between the two, you can then remove the line of stitching in the garment (this assumes you have fabric that doesn't show the needle holes!), and the gathers are ever so much less likely to flip that little corner up into the seam. If it's a skirt and you are concerned about leaving only one line of gathering threads, in case the seam comes out, run three to begin with. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Distances in the UK
but others have spoken eloquently about congestion, road works, minor roads etc. In Michigan, we have two seasons: winter and road-work, also known as orange-barrel season from the large orange drums set up to form a psychological barrier between drivers and workers (or non-existent/deeply milled pavement). -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Born wrong way around
We're born the wrong way round! When we're fit enough to do things, we haven't got the money. When we have the money, the body's disintegrating. - That's what I used to think myself about owning houses, rather than living in rented or low-income co-op housing: After being married for 18 years and having 3 children, we FINALLY got a house, which we have now paid off. I was convinced for about 15 of those years that I would never be able to have a house until the children were gone and we didn't really need it as much! And the body does begin to do one in earlier than one hoped, doesn't it? (Though one can manage to damage oneself even earlier, temporarily: I had plantar fasciitis so badly when I was last in France that every time there was no one else in the Louvre gallery I was in, I sat down on the floor and cried!) -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] instant yeast
Only with care. Too much and it tastes funny. At 5:09 PM -0600 12/5/07, Dora Smith wrote: One can use more yeast? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] instant yeast On 12/3/07 3:41 PM, Sharon wrote: Instant yeast or fast yeast works just fine :) You use the same amount as you do with regular yeast but you don't have to dissolve it first..just mix it in with the flour etc. That's the way I've *always* used granulated yeast. Cake yeast, which is no longer available in supermarkets, must be dissolved in water first. Using more yeast will make the bread rise faster -- it rises faster the second time because there is more yeast in it. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: 12/4/2007 7:31 PM To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] How well does fast rising yeast work?
It's smaller bits of the yeast, so they dampen through much more quickly and start multiplying. It does shorten the time just as advertised. Adapt your recipe following whatever is on the side of the packet as far as adding it to the dry ingredients, and using quite warm water (measure the temperature) to speed it up. I've used it frequently in the last few years - and it does work more quickly than the old style. Hi Dora and everyone I use the fast rising yeast exclusively - add it with the dry ingredients. No waiting for it to proof, and one less dish to wash - although I never really minded that, it's not a big deal. I got better results with the fast yeast. The Christmas bread recipe should work just fine. I use an electric mixer and dough hook for mixing bread dough and after punching the loaves or whatever down after rising, work the dough by hand a bit before putting it into the pan. HTH -- bye for now Bev near Sooke, BC (on snowy beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Dora Smith wrote: My store gives a choice between regular yeast and fast rising yeast; what are the differences, and how well will fast rising yeast work on Christmas bread (Stollen or yeast fruit cake)? Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Q, doing a cookie exchange
As someone with allergies in the family, an ingredients list helps a LOT in knowing whether my kids can eat the item. Nuts, milk products, whey in the margarine, etc., are our problems; others have problems with eggs or wish to avoid all meat. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Useful health-history website
My kids had been after me to make a written family health history, now that they are adults and their new doctors are wanting all that information. I kept intending to... but this Sunday the Parade magazine that comes in the Sunday newspaper had an article on it- and gave the URL for a My Family Health Portrait by the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services. Go to hhs.gov/familyhistory and you can type everything in back to your grandparents, and then spread out from there. It will create either a family tree with certain major things flagged, or a spread-sheet-like chart with everyone's data listed under the diseases you asked it to track. Pretty nifty. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] The word UP
In all the starred cases below except wets up (which I've never heard), I'd hear/use the version with up informally, but never write it in a formal document. At 8:40 AM +0100 6/23/07, Jean Nathan wrote: Language evolves and I would no longer use the word 'up' in Tamara's post where I've marked them with asterisks. Have only included the paragraphs I'd change. At a meeting, why does a topic come UP ? Why do we speak UP, and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write *UP* a report? We call *UP* our friends and we use it to brighten UP a room, polish *UP* the silver, we warm *UP* the leftovers and clean *UP* the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix *UP* the old car. When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP . When the sun comesout we say it is clearing UP . When it rains, it wets *UP* the earth. When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP. (Would say 'clouding over' rather than 'clouding up') If you are UP to it, you might try building *UP* a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take *UP* a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: BBQ
That's not the script for my house (where we rarely grill, and I'm more likely to than he is) nor yet for my daughter's - whose DH does the shopping, starts the grill, grills the food (always some gourmet concoction - rack of lamb, portabella mushrooms, etc.) ... but does leave the dishes to others! But every part of the meal has been a gourmet offering. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] mushy peas
So is my split pea (or lentil) soup. Coming out of the refrigerator, the leftovers can be picked up in blocks in the fingers to eat --- though they feel weird. At 9:10 AM +0100 5/21/07, Jean Nathan wrote: Ricki wrote: This sounds kind of like split pea soup - is it? Don't think so because it's fairly thick, nearer the consistency of baked beans in tomato sauce. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mushy Peas/poem
If it had been simmering for 9 days, it might not have been spoiled. We make it by taking green split peas and either a ham hock or some stew beef, an onion, a bay leaf, and some salt and just cooking it until the peas are soft enough to eat. The bag of split peas usually has directions - only I don't use nearly the amount of water they say, as I'm after an oatmeal-consistency porridge, not a broth-soup. Hi - this side-dish discussion brings another peas poem and child's handgame to mind. Peas porridge hot Peas porridge cold Peas porridge in the pot Nine days old Some like it hot Some like it cold Some like it in the pot Nine days old! My opinion is - it would have spoiled by nine days! (hence the need for mint sauce? And how do you make it?? :)) Ricki in Utah where it's taken a bit of cold turn the past couple of days ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Italian/Pompe
Whether it happened to be spelled che or chi, in this case it means than - medieval spelling isn't always exact. At 6:03 PM -0400 4/8/07, Thurlow Weed wrote: Spiders, I forwarded this business to my mother, whose Italian is meno moso (more or less still there -- she and my late father used to speak a lot of Italian; it was the only other language they shared that I couldn't understand. Very useful for adult speak not for children). She informs me this is 16th century Italian, and that a few hundred years have somewhat changed the language a bit. She had to cheat with her dictionary a little it to refresh her memory here and there, and attempt to account for changes in the language, but here is her synopsis; I hope this helps. It's actually starting to make some sense now (I think!): Opera = work; non = not,no; men = (it could mean an abbreviation for meno = less); bella = nice, beautiful; chi = who, he who; utile = (a) useful, practical, or (n.m.) profit, gain; neccesaria = and necessary; et non piu veduta in luce = no longer seen in the light luce = light, brightness, aperture, splendour. the chi utile has me puzzled, since utile is an adjective or noun, not a verb. Thurlow in Lancaster OH Heavy snow yesterday, flurries today. Why am I collecting Easter eggs in the snow? To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Conversion
You can also use Google - I just typed in what is 171 cm in inches and it came right back with an answer: 67.32etc. inches, so 5' 7 and a bit. Just like my oldest daughter, and what I wanted to be. But I was only 5 3 3/4 in my prime height days. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Pox on Puters: was Re: Patterns' sending -- help?
My husband and I also mourned PC-Write's demise - but it was due to the fact that it was a shareware program basically written by one person, and he died far too young of melanoma, from ignoring a spot between his toes. (Don't ignore weird patches on your skin - the worst that will happen if you ask a doctor to check is that they'll think you are a little paranoid!) You need a writing program that lets you see the ASCII while you are writing. If it weren't extinct, I'd recommend PC-Write -- on the other hand, it did take several weeks of twiddling to get it to do everything my way. Probably why it's extinct: when the fashion is to change word processors every week, you have no *time* to tune one to your personal preferences. Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's almost freezing out. and we've just been buzzed by a Warthog. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Medic Alert Products
I have the actual Medic Alert brand service and a nice silver bracelet for my diabetes - you can get a rhodium-plated version if your skin tarnishes the silver quickly, or if you are rich (or hit one of their sales), you can get rather nice gold ones. They have a couple of sizes of medallion for both the necklaces and the bracelets, and several styles of chain. Or you can get nice necklaces, or sport ones suitable for your marathon days. I've been quite satisfied - though I haven't actually had to use it yet. My son wears a stainless steel bracelet because of his asthma, allergies, and rods up his spine. I haven't bothered to get the USB key with my info, but have got the extra service where they will notify my family if something happens to me (just in case my cell phone with the ICE numbers doesn't get found). You can see their current specials at www.medicalert.org (or www.medicalert.ca or www.medicalert.org.uk, depending on where you are). At 8:11 PM -0800 12/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am needing to look at getting a medic alert bracelet. Does anyone on the list have experience of these products and the associated services? Are there alternatives? I would like to get something that alerts the medical authorities if/when required but would be an attractive piece of jewelry to everybody else - not much to ask, surely?! Any views, opinions, personal experiences, etc would be appreciated ... Best wishes for the new year (it is still 2006 here even if most of you have reached 2007 already :-) ) Helen (a smidge south of Vancouver, BC on the west coast of mainland Canada) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Medic Alert Products
And I thoroughly second Betty Rice's advice to get the real MedicAlert - because they will have your physician's name, any specialists you care to give them the info on, as much of your medical history as you want to give them, as well as your family contacts, allergies, etc. It's MUCH more than just having a few words engraved on it. The medical responders know to call them to find out. And I see they've just come out with a Citizen brand watch, with the logo on the face, and the info on the back of the watch - so you really don't have to wear anything more than you normally would (assuming you wear a wristwatch). At 10:10 PM -0500 1/1/07, Martha Krieg wrote: I have the actual Medic Alert brand service and a nice silver bracelet for my diabetes - you can get a rhodium-plated version if your skin tarnishes the silver quickly, or if you are rich (or hit one of their sales), you can get rather nice gold ones. They have a couple of sizes of medallion for both the necklaces and the bracelets, and several styles of chain. Or you can get nice necklaces, or sport ones suitable for your marathon days. I've been quite satisfied - though I haven't actually had to use it yet. My son wears a stainless steel bracelet because of his asthma, allergies, and rods up his spine. I haven't bothered to get the USB key with my info, but have got the extra service where they will notify my family if something happens to me (just in case my cell phone with the ICE numbers doesn't get found). You can see their current specials at www.medicalert.org (or www.medicalert.ca or www.medicalert.org.uk, depending on where you are). -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Christmas too early
I heartily agree with Tamara about the problematic early disappearance of the Christmas trees. Though this year I was fortunate enough to find one on December 23rd that is STILL drinking (mostly if we get them that late, they've been cut for so long that even a fresh cut doesn't make them thirsty). I'm still debating whether the name of the outfit (Flatsnoots) is their real name. Ours typically go up on December 24th and come down on January 6th I just try to stay out of stores from Thanksgiving on - so I see a lot less of the commercialization. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Scorching
David, I recall seeing a notice concerning airplane travel suggesting traveling in all-natural fibers, in case of a fire during an accident. The reason they gave was that when synthetics get very hot, they act something like hot sugar syrup or pitch, clinging to the body at very high temperatures, and/or holding the flame on the person, where a thin cotton shirt for example would burn quickly and be done with it, and loose pieces might just fall off. You might check Snopes and see if they have any further information. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Washington
If she's into ecclesiastical architecture, the National Cathedral (Gothic) and the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception (white, glorious + mosaics) are good. They used to have organ concerts in the National Cathedral, but that was 36 years ago - can't say for sure if they still do. Nearby in Virginia, Colonial Williamsburg, Mount Vernon, Jefferson's home Monticello. Figure more than one day can be spent at the Smithsonian and related galleries, including the National Museum of the American Indian, the Freer Gallery, and the various sub-museums of the Smithsonian. The National Geographic Society public spaces. The various monuments - Lincoln, Washington (though personally I find the Washington monument somewhat boring!), Vietnam Veterans - and in the Spring, the cherry trees. Is G Streets Fabrics still there? At 2:42 AM -0400 10/26/06, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Oct 25, 2006, at 15:43, Edith Holmes wrote: I wonder if some US spiders can offer any advice? My daughter will move to Washington DC in January, and hopes to have time to look round some interesting places. Can any of you suggest 'not to be missed' places, well known or not, that she can put on her list? Lace-wise (and otherwise, too g) Smithsonian is, probably, it, if one has a few days only; I expect it can be googled for general info and I'll be happy to provide the lace-specific data should she want them. What are her interests? How long will she be in the DC? What will she be doing there? There are several Arachneans in that area and I'm sure they'd happily show your daughter around and otherwise befriend her, but most of them are not on chat -- only on lace. You might want to repost your question there. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Laptop uses
Not natively. But there are USB ports on laptops, and USB divided/angled keyboards (I've got one both at work and at home). Not quite as nice as the original Mac split keyboard that could be actually opened up to your preferred angle, but that one had, as they say, issues, and wasn't very durable. At 9:13 AM -0400 10/5/06, Malvary J Cole wrote: I've thought about getting a modern laptop (I have a very old one with virtually no memory, it just about runs windows and Wordperfect 5.1 and no colour screen). I use it to take minutes at meetings and for that service it is fine. I haven't been looking recently for a laptop, but would need one with a divided keyboard and have never seen one. Don't know if they even exist. Struggling at the moment to type using both hands (with a broken left arm which is improving a bit) I did a big number on my right wrist 5 years ago and now can't rotate my right wrist much to the outside so need the angled keyboard to be able to type for any length of time. Does anyone know if a laptop exists with a divided keyboard? Malvary in Ottawa (the National Capital), Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] laptop uses, expanded
I don't have a bobbin inventory, but I do have a book inventory, in a Mac database built in HyperCard. You could use Access, or Excel. The database makes it a bit easier to select by the contents of various fields, and you can do pretty entry screens. My address book for Christmas cards is in a Mac database called FileMaker. We've got over 3,500 books, so the odds of buying the same one twice are pretty high if we don't check. When I'm going to an academic or lace conference, I print off a list of relevant books I already own. From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/05 Thu AM 04:43:44 EDT To: lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: [lace-chat] laptop uses, expanded Hi again. I'm getting some interesting ideas. Thanks, everyone. However, no one has mentioned inventories. Does anyone keep their bobbin or book inventory on their computer? I've been using a notebook that is easy to carry to lace days and conferences. I need to make bobbin and thread inventories. I'm guessing that the spreadsheet would be a good place for that. It would be a good chore to get me used to using the spreadsheet. I'm still open to ideas. Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message sent via RCNet webmail To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] recyling, and holiday
At 1:07 AM -0700 9/5/06, Alice Howell wrote: Here they also collect waste every week and recycling only every other week. That's the schedule for us this year, also. However, at the start of the year, they gave every house a large rolling bin for recycling -- one that's big enough to hold two weeks worth. When we had tubs to put things in, they picked it up every week. I put mine out only when I had enough to be worth the effort. Sometimes even now I skip a pickup when I don't have much in my big bin. snip Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've got the tubs - which in fact are quite heavy if filled with office paper. So we use one of the children's old plastic boat sleds to drag them to the curb. They used to say we could put out recycling in a regular trash can (the kind you can get with wheels) with a special label ... but they stopped picking it up as recycling even WITH the label. And now (a few years and a couple of companies later) they say you can use a trash can with a label - but papers MUST be in a bin. I think the larger containers just get too heavy with paper in them. We've given up on the idea of using the label, since their employees often don't bother to read it. After all the trouble of sorting, it's really annoying when it just goes into the trash anyway. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] how government works and recycling
Actually, the freezer wasn't such a stupid idea. My father used to keep an empty coffee can in the refrigerator with a plastic bag in it and the lid on it, for things like fruit peels, bones, and fat trimmed off meat that otherwise would have smelled in the trash. He'd pull it out and put it in the bin just as he took the trash out. At 7:37 PM +0100 9/5/06, Rosemary Naish wrote: Further to the mysteries of how the thought processes of government officials work was a story reported in the UK papers this week. Someone who only had their recycling collected fortnightly, but had also been the recipient of an edict forbidding food waste in the ordinary bin, asked her local council what to do with the remains of her sunday roast chicken until the recycling bin was collected. The official, and absolutely serious, answer was either not have roast meals until just before the bin was due to be collected or to put the remains in her freezer until collection day! they just don't live in the same world as the rest of us! Rosemary - rapidly becoming one grumpy old woman! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] How government really works
Here they also collect waste every week and recycling only every other week. But I think the reason is that they used to collect both every week, but did not find enough recycling put out to make it worth the cost of the truck and people - many people don't recycle at all, and even those of us who do don't always have a large amount. We only take the paper on Sundays, which cuts out an enormous amount. If I could cut the charity mailings in half, it would help even more! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: names
Oddly enough, although the external address by convention is Mr. and Mrs., I was taught on the inside greeting line to put the woman first, as in Mr. and Mrs. John Doe 123 First St. Anywhere, MI but Dear Sarah and John, From: Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/31 Thu AM 12:27:23 EDT To: chat Arachne lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: [lace-chat] Re: names On Aug 30, 2006, at 13:28, Janice Blair wrote: When I write to married female friends I never use a title and much prefer just the plain name and I don't care if it upsets anyone, Send them on; won't upset me at all :) [...] but my Christmas cards always are addressed to Mr. Mrs followed by their last name. That's the Polish custom also, except... *Ladies first*... :) It's, always, Mrs and Mr X; never Mr and Mrs X... I didn't even realise how equal women were in Poland until I came here :) Of course, the equality was surface-deep. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message sent via RCNet webmail To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] names
In one family I know, the children all got the same initials so they could inherit the monogrammed items and they'd be still applicable! Though I never saw that they had all that much - maybe it just came out for family feasts, and I'm not family! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] names
Every place I've lived, even when Christianity could mainly be assumed, we just called it first name. We do understand given name to mean first name - but logically if a person has a first and one or more middle names, those are all given rather than inherited. Never heard Christian name - except in books. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Women's married names
The etiquette book I used to pore over in the 1960s specified that a married woman's letter should always be addressed to Mrs. John Doe. Only a divorced woman would become Mrs. Jane Doe; a widow would continue to use her husband's name. And that's how I still address letters to widows of my parents' generation. But one of my friends in 1968 insisted on addressing letters to me as Mrs. Martha Krieg. She said, To me, there's a whole lot more difference between you and Laurence than one s! It was the tip of the wedge, as obviously other people felt as she did. But the real revolution in how women were seen legally was still to come. I know a tenured full professor at the University of Michigan who in the 1960s or 1970s had trouble buying a house for herself. She was a single woman, and the bankers did not lend to unmarried women! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Surnames
At weddings I've been to, the introduction after the ceremony is different from any pronouncement as man and wife - it's a formal introduction to the congregation, usually with the couple facing the assembly. When I married in Ohio in 1968, I had no choice. Legally, I had to be Martha Lenore Krieg. I'd never liked my middle name (probably devastating my grandmother - as Caroline Lenore, she was known as Lenore) and was thoroughly disgusted with having to keep it. A year or so later, the law was changed and as soon as possible I got a new driver's license as Martha Fessler Krieg, which I have remained ever since, except when I go to Latin America, where it's easy to switch to Martha Fessler de Krieg. The children are just plain Kriegs. The use of just Christian names is church custom - also held at baptisms (at least in Catholic/Episcopal/Lutheran baptisms I have been to) and confirmations. I think the idea is that the unique part of the name, the part that truly belongs to the individual rather than the family, is the non-family part. And if you are lucky enough to be Catholic at least in the US, you get to pick a saint's name for yourself (not assigned by parents or priest) as a confirmation name. Most American children are given a first and a middle name at birth (though knowing that I was unlikely to have a fourth child, we gave both grandfathers' names as middle names to Ian William Herbert Krieg), so Catholics may easily end up with three names. But I haven't seen many of them actually using the confirmation name as a middle name. It's just something they know they have, as American Jews will have an Anglo name that they use at their public school, and a Hebrew name that only their family and maybe their close friends know. Another interesting difference in customs - in England it's just I pronounce you man and wife One thing that does usually vary between civil marriage ceremonies and church ceremonies is that when the vows are exchanged in a civil ceremony all the names (given/Christian and surnames) are used, in a church it's only the Christian names. I used to think it was something to do with the Church of England being established and having a different status, but last year at my nephew's wedding in a Roman Catholic church, with registrar in attendance, it was just Christian names - and only the first ones, the priest couldn't cope with a whole string of names for Andrew and he struggled with Sarah, pronouncing it as Sara. Having said that he actually did brilliantly. He was from Rome in Italy, and on holiday in England when he was called on to deputise for the regular priest who had been rushed into hospital a few days previously. It was the first marriage he'd conducted in English and he managed a short, but appropriate sermon as well as the legal bits. Brenda On 24 Aug 2006, at 16:21, Spud Islander wrote: When our daughter married (in Canada) she elected to keep her surname (Pate) and her husband kept his (Murphy). She said the priest was a bit flummoxed as to how to make the introduction after the ceremony as his usual words were *I present to you, Mr. and Mrs. X* g He changed the wording somehow to *our newly wedded couple using first names only* :) Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] a question about surname
Probably not *exactly* advertise - but maybe hang a bit on the coat-tails of the father? At 7:39 AM +0200 8/23/06, Avital wrote: I asked my husband, who's English, and he said, Why would anyone want to advertise the fact? ;-) Avital That's true, but historically, a double barrelled name is more likely to have come about through an illegitimate child using both parents names. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] another strange 'lace' tool
Or maybe a board to some sort of tablet weaving or braid-making with? I've never seen other than a sort of long piece of wood with a few different pieces to warp the threads in a loop for tablet weaving, but I could see perhaps running threads through this thing, securing them at the other end to some stationary object. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Warning - Lace supplier site hacked
And another warning to those heading to Canada: My daughter and I went to Montreal this February, expecting to be able to withdraw money at the ATMs at the roadside rests. However, our credit union stopped using the CIRRUS network, and that was the only network that those machines worked with! Had we realized what a problem this was going to be, we would have checked earlier which banks we could use. Fortunately I had some cash, and most people would take either American dollars or a credit card At 11:40 AM -0400 7/20/06, chh wrote: Dear Spiders - I just got a call from The Lacemaker (Courtland, Ohio) and was told that their site had been hacked (actually their host) and that financial information had been stolen. Evidently, several customers had activity on their credit card accounts and to be safe, they were calling everyone who had ordered through the web site. I immediately called my bank and thankfully, there was no illegal activity on my account but because I had used a debit VISA, the thieves would have had access to my main checking account. My banker canceled my card number and has reissued it with a new number. I was lucky because the only thing I have to do is put up with the minor hassle of waiting for a new card but I thought I should spread the word as fast as possible to all lacemakers who might have ordered from them on line. I don't want to besmirch the reputation of the Lacemaker because, in truth, it could happen to any site that sells on line. I will, however, only shop from now on at sites that use a nationally recognized Safe Sales check-out. Be warned and check your accounts, especially those of you headed to Canada! May your threads never tangle, Cindy Cindy Hutton Norfolk, Virginia USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Warning - Lace supplier site hacked
And another warning to those heading to Canada: My daughter and I went to Montreal this February, expecting to be able to withdraw money at the ATMs at the roadside rests. However, our credit union stopped using the CIRRUS network, and that was the only network that those machines worked with! Had we realized what a problem this was going to be, we would have checked earlier which banks we could use. Fortunately I had some cash, and most people would take either American dollars or a credit card At 11:40 AM -0400 7/20/06, chh wrote: Dear Spiders - I just got a call from The Lacemaker (Courtland, Ohio) and was told that their site had been hacked (actually their host) and that financial information had been stolen. Evidently, several customers had activity on their credit card accounts and to be safe, they were calling everyone who had ordered through the web site. I immediately called my bank and thankfully, there was no illegal activity on my account but because I had used a debit VISA, the thieves would have had access to my main checking account. My banker canceled my card number and has reissued it with a new number. I was lucky because the only thing I have to do is put up with the minor hassle of waiting for a new card but I thought I should spread the word as fast as possible to all lacemakers who might have ordered from them on line. I don't want to besmirch the reputation of the Lacemaker because, in truth, it could happen to any site that sells on line. I will, however, only shop from now on at sites that use a nationally recognized Safe Sales check-out. Be warned and check your accounts, especially those of you headed to Canada! May your threads never tangle, Cindy Cindy Hutton Norfolk, Virginia USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Potluck suppers
Oh, it does indeed! I used to play in a Javanese gamelan (gong orchestra) at the University of Michigan. All the players were students. We had a potluck and every single student brought the cheapest, quickest thing possible: white rice. At 8:44 PM -0400 6/1/06, Jane Viking Swanson wrote: Hi All, I love the stories of having all the same thing brought to potluck suppers G. I'm most thrilled with Alice's note about the one where everyone brought chocolate cake! When I was a girl I had a book about Little Bear who always spoke in rhyme. The illustrations were fabulous and I loved to read and reread the book. One of my favorite stories was about a school picnic where everyone brought chocolate cake! I didn't think that would happen in real life G. Jane in Vermont, USA looking forward to the New England Lace Group Retreat in a week! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] For those of you who wonder about Krieg reading habits...
My husband's web page http://home.comcast.net/~krieg5208/reading.htm -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] What's the term?
Yes, that's good old Car Talk, whose attorneys are Dewey, Cheetham, and Howe in fact most of their credits are made up... but one of my favorites is the Head of the Working Mothers' Support Group: Erasmus B. Dragon. At 11:09 AM -0400 5/6/06, Lynn Carpenter wrote: I remember going on vacation with my parents and driving through a little town where the dentist's name was Dr. Paine. And I don't know if this one counts -- I always think it sounds like a tattoo-and-piercing place -- there is a law firm that advertises on one of the public radio stations I listen to called Harness, Dickey Pierce. It's true, really, try Googling them! Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com http://lost-arts.blogspot.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat]And two more names
University of Michigan had two professors 20 -30 years ago, Dr. Paper and Dr. Penzl, if I recall correctly. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] What's the term?
I don't know ... but I have two more candidates: My childhood pediatrician, Dr. Hendershot, and a chiropractor's office in Canton, Ohio, with the placard Tarzan and Treat - I always wondered if it was swinging on the vines that made the Treat-ment necessary. At 10:06 PM -0400 5/1/06, Tamara P Duvall wrote: ...for when a person's surname fits his work? Say, an accountant whose name is Balance? Or a doctor whose name is Bonesetter, a nurse whose name is Caring, a lawyer whose name is Spinner and a poet whose name is Wordsworth? I am not asking because of our Persident's new press secretary (Snow. But his first name is Tony, not Job g); the matter came up elsewhere... Replies -- on list or off -- gratefully received. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bugs and Bags
Thank you, David! I always love picking up a new term I've never heard of. Bags I'd never heard in Ohio or Michigan - Dibs for sure; or sometimes (especially for a piece of food) I spit on this - especially if accompanied by actually spitting on the piece of food, it's pretty effective in preventing anyone else from wanting it. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: stain help
In the buffet line at a friend's wedding about 6 years ago, I set the salad plate down while I ladled something onto the entree plate. The salad plate dumped itself all down the front of my new skirt (fortunately, it had enough of a pattern that it didn't scream across the room...). I used Spray 'n' Wash, I think, and it all came out of the polyester. That or the stain stick, or K2R spot remover, generally works on my cotton turtlenecks which act as magnets for salad dressing and Chinese sauces. Spray'n'Wash now has a liquid form you can dump in with the laundry, but for something this major, I'd go for something directly applied. Don't know what's similar in the UK to K2R or Spray 'n Wash. At 8:51 PM -0400 4/12/06, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Apr 12, 2006, at 17:33, Lynne Cumming wrote: Please oh please can someone help me! Having bought a new pair of jeans at a price I wouldn't normally pay (from Marks Spencer's no less!) but did because they fitted and were comfy - I went and knocked a bottle of garlic oil (olive oil base) over and it went down both legs. I washed them with Ariel and once dry saw the stains were still there, Eek. Hope the wash had not *set* the stains; my general policy is treat first, wash second, panic last. Can't find my Household Hints book to check (I'm old enough to go to books before I go to Internet g), but getting rid of oil stains brought a whole slew of oil stains removal responses on Google, so that might be a route to take. This said... :) Years and years ago, I accidentally dribbled some salad oil (home made: olive oil and cider vinegar, garlic, mustard powder, salt, pepper) on a (pure cotton) skirt I rather liked, and *nothing* worked to remove that stainless glass look from the spots -- not treatment, not washing. The skirt ended up in a I'll think about it one day pile for a couple of years. Then I went to UK (Oxford) in '88 and discovered a miracle soap -- a *cake* of something called Vanish. It was not the same thing as our (US) Vanish. And the cake is not the same as the foam and liquid forms of UK Vanish which appeared later (got those in '98 and am not at all happy with them). But it seemed to be coping with stains better than anything else I'd ever encountered, without leaving a big pale blob in place of the stain. So, as the last resort, I dampened the oily spot with cool water (as recommended; the cake version of Vanish was originally formulated as a laundry aid for campers who had little access to hot water) and rubbed the soap into the stain. Left the soap-lather in for about 45 minutes (*not* as recommended g) before tossing the skirt (*not* rinsed out) into the washing machine with other laundry. The skirt came out pristine -- neither the oily spot nor a spot after spot was to be seen. It's just *too bad* that I only got to enjoy the skirt for another couple of years, after which my waist-line began its middle-age-creep-up (*extremely* annoying, especially since my *weight* has remained the same. Nobody likes to look like a hot dog g)... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Fabric stash
Possible - but I washed a dress I'd made out of dry-clean-only polyester and lurex-type brocade, and it lost most of its substance and drape, even though I only dipped it in and spun in out, didn't agitate at all. Too bad, as it's my favorite Italian Renaissance garb... Depends on how much you are willing to risk damaging the whole thing versus having it definitely OK but smaller. t 3:38 PM -0400 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know an easy way of removing the labels from the back WD40?!?!? Seriously though, I think you may need a solvent of some sort to remove the glue as it's likely to be the sort that can be put on by machine - and not water soluble if the material is really dry clean only or the wetness of the glue might have affected the fabric. Having got the glue off, I would go with Avital on this one to then remove the solvent. An awful lot of clothes, for example, say dry clean only and you read the label and it's 100% polyester or whatever. I then usually give them a wool wash first, and then revert to the 'normal' wash for that fabric. I think it's the manufacturers covering themselves against the 'boil it and hot tumble dry' fanatics. If they shrink a tid you'll still probably have bigger bits than if you have to cut the label off. Jacquie To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] WD-40: was Moderator ruling
Joy, you are NOT the only woman who still knows what a hairpin is. I still own, and even occasionally use, them. With hair as long as mine, they are essential in some cases. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Why?
I'm not at all shy about expressing political opinions myself - BUT I feel that when they involve such sensitive issues, it is more courteous not to put them on lists dedicated to other purposes. I know I can simply hit delete, but I'd prefer to keep everyone on the list as a friend, and when opinions about sensitive topics cause people to leave the list or become offended, that becomes difficult. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] WD-40
Protects silver from tarnishing BUT I sure wouldn't want to *eat* out of, off, or with anything that hadn't been thoroughly washed afterwards! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] British expressions
We pronounce and spelling it kafuffle, but it's clearly the same word -- probably came from reading too many British authors. It's the sort of thing that happens the night before you leave for a trip. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Sudoku
If you have a Windows computer, you can download a program at www.sudoku.com that will help you solve them. Otherwise, you can use a pencil and put the potential numbers lightly in the corners of the blank spots until you figure out which one really goes. I have a Mac, so wasn't able to test the program. I've not finished one yet - there are so many other (lace, knitting, embroidery, etc.) productive puzzles in my life --- and as a support programmer, my work life is full of solve it now puzzles where I've never seen that part of the application or the code behind it until the problem comes in. I really don't find a need for adding more puzzles --- but more power to those who like them! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Editing (was: favourite authors)
T, you always leave me rolling on the floor with your descriptions of language issues! I didn't see a problem with the victim example - youngest/smallest children are often vulnerable. However, I do frequently run into a problem where two current grammatical shibboleths occur at the same time: 1) The passive voice must be avoided at all times. 2) I must not overuse the first-person pronoun I, lest I appear to be centered on myself. Now, when I'm trying to write a bulleted narrative describing all the steps that I took to resolve a problem, each of which is several sentences in length, it's a real challenge. Should I write (as artificially short examples): * I examined the data to ensure that the table was empty before I initialized it with the good data. (bad - uses I) or The table was examined to ensure it was empty before being initialized with the good data. (bad - has a passive) It's not overwhelming in a single sentence, but when you get a long series of them, either choice begins to stick out like a sore thumb. And alternating between them sounds really stupid, almost as bad as switching to non-parallel verb forms in the same sentence... When the individual items are really short, the conundrum can be resolved by saying, I performed the following steps 1. examined the data. That isolates the I in one spot, and allows all the verbs to be active. But it truly doesn't work if each item is a paragraph or two long! -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Editing
I would respectfully disagree with you - people lost interest in teaching diagramming because they didn't think grammar was important - and they could get away with thinking that because the English language lets people be totally unconcerned about case and gender for all nouns and adjectives. They were sadly mistaken (in my opinion) - and I also loved diagramming sentences. At 10:31 PM -0500 2/12/06, Ruth wrote: I don't think it's so much a lack of declensions. In my college Latin classes when the professor started talking about parts of speech like direct and indirect objects, you could see eyes glazing over. Lots of the kids in the class had never even heard of them, let alone know what they were or how/when to use them. The problem is that grammar isn't taught in the public schools any longer. Back when dinosaurs still roamed the planet and I was in grade school grin I remember diagramming sentences over and over. I asked my kids once if they understood how to do this in their English classes and they looked at me like I had sprouted another head. Kids today think that grammar is married to grandpa. It would be nice if things like grammar, spelling and punctuation were actually encouraged in school. I remember asking one of my daughter's teachers at a conference why, with Traci's terrible spelling, her paper was scored as high as it was. I was told that these days the emphasis is put on making the student feel good about him/herself rather than correcting and possibly embarrassing them. I nearly fainted!! Isn't that what education is for?? Teaching them the correct way to do things?? I'm convinced that the only reason my children knew any of this stuff when they graduated from high school was that I forced them to do it at home. But at least they can read and write an intelligible sentence and do enough math to ensure they're not getting shortchanged on their paychecks. Okay, I'm off my soap box now :D I don't mean to offend any teachers on the list. Just remember that opinions are free and worth what you pay for them grin Martha Krieg wrote: Ah, but when you put your text into Word, the spell-checker squiggles under the colour words, and unless you have the grammar-checker turned on, it ignores the hypercorrection he was nice to my mother and I --- an overreaction to My mother and me went to the store together. The teachers drilled so much on My mother and *I* went to the store that people started using it everywhere. The downside to a language with almost nothing left of its declensions is that a majority of people have no clue what the different between a subject and an object (direct, indirect, or of a preposition) is! -- Ruth You don't have to wear a red hat to have an attitude. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Favorite Authors
Not to mention Ursula K. LeGuin and Christopher Stasheff -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Please be patient for a bit till everyone gets the message.
Not everyone reads every message in the order they receive them, either. If someone hasn't read Avital's message banning the thread, they aren't being purposely rude if they reply. In fact, I had replied to someone off the list BEFORE reading it, even though it did come in the same day. With that in mind, I have been exercising my delete key on several unread posts in the last few days to save my blood pressure! Tamara wrote: [The thread has] been banned, but it takes a while for things to settle down, while people in different time zones, with different access to the list (digest vs reflected) and different tempers (length of fuse) stop reacting to a message. Think of it as an _unscheduled_ (and un-lacy) relay... :) Don't unsubscribe; we've survived worse than the recent flare up. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Favorite Authors
Oh yes - Tony Hillerman's Navajo mysteries Patrick O'Brian's sea stories Horatio Hornblower series Anne McCaffrey dragon books Ellis Peters Brother Cadfael books The Wind in the Willows George MacDonald The Princess and Curdie and the other one about them... At 11:45 PM -0500 2/1/06, Martha Krieg wrote: Lillian Jackson Braun - The Cat Who mystery series Both Faye and her husband Kellerman's mystery stories William X. Kienzle mysteries about a Detroit Catholic priest Sarah Zettel - the Isavalta series (rich fantasy), plus Fool's War (a very, very different science fiction) Arthur Ransome - Swallows and Amazons series (children's books from the 30's or 40's) Lloyd Alexander - Taran series (children's - but fun) the Green Knowe books Anne of Green Gables books Anything by C.S.Lewis Anything by Tolkien Jan Karon Madeleine L'Engle -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] :)?
T, It's quite possible that the person who sent the joke wasn't even thinking about political paranoia. Maybe the joke just didn't fit their general comfort level for public exposure? I've been politically concerned about writing certain things to people abroad, if I planned to visit those countries (assuming that the mail might be read over there), but I doubt I'd be concerned that the electro-snoops are looking for risqué jokes... At 11:56 PM -0500 1/3/06, Tamara P Duvall wrote: Ever since we (US) bombed the s... out of Baghdad deleting all my childhood fancy romances (1001 of them), I had a gut feeling that the World I Used to Know (commie) and the World I Transplanted to (US, supposedly democratic) lost their demarcation lines and became one... The last six months -- spying scandal piled on spying scandal -- had me sneering; high time Americans faced reality, and realised they were as minutely scrutinised by the powers that be, as anyone else, anyplace else... :) But I never had a firm confirmation of my gut feelling... Today, I got a joke; it's funny... Also, it comes from a US source... Also, it comes with the same caveat that jokes in commie Poland used to have: I don't want even my initials tied to this one, which makes it heart-breaking, rather than funny... In my 33 yrs in US, I have *never before*, *not once* heard anyone worried about having an off-colour (politically or otherwise) joke attributed to them... I was told --when I debated my citizenship -- that one could express oneself freely in US, without repercussions, unlike in Poland of the same period. Never believe what you're told... :) Fear had been commonplace in Poland of my childhood and teens, but my US environment always pooh-poohed such fears as being baseless; US has much higher ethical standards than your commie terrorist monolithical rulers I was told... You are free to express yourself I was told... My French is non-existant, but I know there's a timeless phrase: the more things change, the more they stay the same; the commie Poland and the democratic US have reached a common ground. *So* common in fact, there's no dividing line anymore... From: Source Zero First, some of the items on this link are not polite, but if you can skip those, then take a look at some of the captions added to these airline safety signs. Some are pretty funny. http://www.airtoons.com/ -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] 20 Uses for Useless CDs
There is another possibility, which I've used at work. Sometimes when we cut a revision of the software onto CD, it doesn't work correctly and the CD is useless - but it still has the blank white side that we would normally print with our logo. You could achieve the same effect with a blank circular label: 1. Drill a small hole about 3/16 from the edge. 2. Use rubber stamps or lace to decorate the non-shiny side of the CD. 3. Insert a wire hanger in the hole and hang it on the Christmas tree or the philodendron draped over the wall of your cubicle. Still another use: Drill a small hole and hang on strings over your strawberry patch to keep off the birds. At 12:44 AM -0500 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Arachnes -- Possibly some Christmas present ideas from the Web here, easier than making lace! :) Ricci Utah Twenty uses for useless CDs. 1) Buy clock guts from a craft shop and make CD-clocks. 2) shuk shuk PULL!!! BOOM! (plastic pigeons) 3) Deadly missiles, especially when sharpened first with a knife blade and honed with the diamond-file thingy from your Leatherman. 4) Put fake new labels on them and give them away as cool games to make the losers leave you alone. 5) Put fake new labels on them to make them seem really important. Leave them around as decoys to prevent damage to your REALLY important CDs. 6) Cut in half and sharpened as in item #3, they make curiously-shaped knives. 7) Enlarge the holes and mount them on your glasses. Use as confusion devices or as prizes to bribe people to leave you alone. 8) Using scotch tape, you can make a Jacob's Ladder thingy that flips and flops all the way down. 9) Cut in half and connect to a neon-sign transformer to make a Jacob's Ladder. 10) Place them in strategic locations to bounce a laser beam from your desk to desks of various people who need to be tortured with lasers being played all over them. 11) Use one or several to wedge a door shut. 12) When nobody's looking, thread them on various cables and replace the cables. 13) Cut into bow-ties. Then with your pocket blowtorch, soften them and twist. Caltrops! 14) Place them in light fixtures to cause irritating glares in strategic locations. 15) Photocopy them. 16) Sharpen as in item #3 (serrate if desired) and mount on a Dremel for use as a saw. 17) Cut four notches from outer edge to almost the inner circle. Heat with pocket blowtorch until soft and mold into a rough cone of about 30 degrees. Keep the notches clear and hole intact. Stick this gadget into something where a lot of air comes out really fast (like a car exhause). Listen to the whistling noise. 18) There is no use #18. 19) Use your pocket blowtorch again to soften a CD and wrap it around a doorknob, mouse, drawer handle, or other small object. 20) Use your pocket blowtorch yet again to form one into a saddle or taco shape. Fasten to ceiling and pretend it's a spy camera. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Happy New Year!!!
Although it rained on Christmas, it didn't succeed in removing all the snow - and it snowed again last night, so we have pretty white lawns for the New Year. Happy New Year, gentle spiders! May it be better than last year in every respect. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] License plates
And then there's LACEMAKR... LACEY In Michigan, you can make it up, but it can't be already in use, or come out to one of a set of banned words. I don't know where to find that list...they may just reject your submission. I keep a small list of cool plates, but alas much of the time when I see one, I'm driving and can't write it down! Things like DRK JDI ... MOMSTAXI, INOCUL8 (on the car of a pediatrician), REDBUG, O DADDY on an ethnic one whose driver was wearing a very sharp broad-brimmed fedora hat, etc. OK, you've seen a direct response from one of the people I'd BCCd the message to. Which, BTW, is something worth of note: it confirms the old rule, which goes back to the original split of Arachne into Arachne-lace and Arachne-lace-chat: you have to be subscribed to both lists in order to _read_ the messages posted on both, but subscrition to only one list gets you _posting_ priviledges on both. From: R.P. I always wanted the plate 1 2 PLAY but in California you pay extra every year for vanity plates, like $35/year. For lacemakers? BBNLACE MAK LACE BOBNTAT CTC SHTLBUG -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message sent via RCNet webmail To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: [GCFL.net] RaPUNzel
Please note, this comes from a donation-subscription joke mailing list. If you wish to forward it, that's fine, but they require that the ending info on Good Clean Funnies stay with the forwarded item! Fair Ladies and Noble Gentlemen: I, RaPUNzel, have a HAIR-raising tale to SHEAR with you written by the Brothers TRIMM. When I was a young CURL, a jealous queen LOCKed me in a tower. I was STRANDed and was at my SPLITS END -- truly a damsel in THESE TRESSES! The queen thought it was a PERMANENT SOLUTION but, day after day, knight after knight would try to climb the tower, which was so tall the FOLLICLE you! They would climb my BRAID, and if they weren't so handsome, I would give them the BRUSH off. Gee, I wonder if that's where I got my reputation for being such a big TEASE. One day, a handsome knight named Prince LATHERRINSE tried to rescue me. He was HEAD SHOULDERS above the rest. I said, COMB and SHAVE me! The queen found out about it and cut off my hair. And let me tell you, Hell hath no fury as a woman SHORNED! She'll have Hell TOUPEE because I am not someone to TANGLE with. Prince Latherrinse WISPed me away and we got married and had twins. But, we didn't live happily ever after because he placed too many CONDITIONERS on our marriage, which were really CRIMPING my STYLE. So, we PARTED ways and a custody battle ensued. It came down to SPLITTING HAIRS (heirs) so he took one twin and I took the other. So, now I don't date princes anymore because I don't want a LATHER RINSE REPEAT... (read the shampoo label). And I've gotten back to my ROOTS by changing my hair from BLONDE to brown and this new color is to DYE for. After all, BRUNETTES have more pun. Well, that's the LONG AND SHORT of my HAIRY tale. I bid you all ADO! (By Tiff Wimberly) Received from Stan Kegel. -- Rate this funny at http://www.gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20051102 Brought to you by GCFL.net: The Good, Clean Funnies List A cheerful heart is good medicine... (Prov 17:22a) Mail address: GCFL, Box 100, Harvest, AL 35749, USA Go to http://www.gcfl.net/mlfrontend.php to change your subscription options or unsubscribe. To print or email this funny to others, go to http://www.gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20051102 The latest GCFL funny can always be found on the web at http://www.gcfl.net/latest.php -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace-chat] shortbread recipe
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