Re: [lace] Bobbin winder
Hello Ann and all sleepy Sunday here, while I can't provide you with a diagram or even a link to one - and there is probably one somewhere on the 'net - I can tell you the string winder is similar to the capstan winch. For the bobbin winder, the endless loop of string goes around a stationery peg, perhaps a pin on the lacemaker's pillow, the loop goes around and about the bobbin enabling the bobbin to move, to roll around, whilst the loop is pulled. IIRC the loop is held taut in one hand while the other hand tensions the bobbin - the *third hand* guides the thread around the bobbin. I know there is an easy way to use this (someone told me she has the loop going around her chair) and I once saw a lacemaker stop lacing and wind a bobbin in this way right on her pillow. Hope this helps until someone else can provide a better description! (who/what is Heath Robinson?) On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM, ann.humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I seem to remember some time ago someone describing how to make a bobbin winder using string. I remember thinking it was a good idea and intended to remember the details but my rememberer forgot to remember so if anyone knows what I am talking about or has a good idea for a Heath Robinson winder I would be very grateful. Ann Yorkshire UK - -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island in an August rain, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin winder
ah - like a 'Rube Goldberg apparatus' The string winder however is delightfully efficient ;) On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Sue Duckles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Heath Robinson (1872 - 1944) Robinson was an English cartoonist and illustrator, best-known for the complicated and outlandish inventions he portrayed. (who/what is Heath Robinson?) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island in August rain, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] hitches on bobbins
If you like, without waiting for the next project, you can unwind and rewind one of your bobbins on the current project to test a hitch system. I laced for some time before I realized it was quite possible to undo a bobbin of its thread and rewind again, for whatever reason;) On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yesterday I started a new project that I should finish later on today and when I came to the hitches I put one on the neck and the final one in the top that way I found that I only have the one thread on the top and when I go and lengthen then I am not picking at two threads with my pin. I am still working on how to get the bobbins to stay wound with one hitch. So on the next project I will try and get my head around which way my hitches are going in the hope that I can manage with one and then easy pesy. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pop goes the weasel
Oh my - I have never heard *those* words to the rhyme - but these: Round and round the mulberry bush The monkey chased the weasel. That's the way the money goes Pop goes the weasel... It was the tune on a windup jack-in-the-box I had when I was a kid. And later thought the rhyme was something to do with the silk industry. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Malvary J Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The meaning I had heard was that the weasel was a hat - made out of weasel rather than more expensive pelts, and to pop something is to pawn it. So, when you think of the rhyme: Up and down the city road (i.e. strutting around in your finery with your posh hat on you head) In and out of the Eagle (going into the pub for a drink or two) That's the way the money goes (when you buy the drink or two) Pop goes the weasel (you pawn the hat so you have more money) But I like the other explanation too, especially if the spoked wheel came around and 'popped' you on the head if you weren't paying attention I like this explanation too. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] .. terminology/rose ground in 's Gravenmoer Lace
A question: in this case does one make the half-stitch as TC or CT ? On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rose Ground: A 's Gravensmoer Lace rose ground is what is known as honey comb in Torchon. Half stitch, twist both PRS one time and pin. Close with a half stitch and twist both PRS one time. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: What are you doing instead of IOLI Convention
Hello everyone I'm among those who don't go to many lace conventions - too far or too difficult or too something that I can't go - so can't miss what we don't have ;) What I'm working on is a Flanders piece, taking some letters from Ulrike's ABC in Flanders and turning them upright (so that they read up to down, instead of left to right)- which means free-wheeling without a diagram vbg and now I'm teaching myself how to do such a diagram. When finished - it is a Christmassy item - I can publish the pattern somewhere. (David, that was bad...) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was sent to me but was obviously intended for the whole list. ... To all those of you who are not at IOLI Convention -- the list sure is quiet. S, I thought I'd ask what you are doing this week lace-wise. ... Now it's your turn, tell us what you are up to. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] roller or block
Yes, to the predicament of the pattern fitting the roller, or larger than, or just laying a great long length of pattern in a U around the roller - which I've tried, but my favourite advice to myself is, don't fight your materials...If whatever it is isn't working for you, try something else (so, I like to have the pattern fit around the roller, or use a roller for this but a block pillow for that..). Do I hear the echo - 'you can't have too many lace pillows' :D On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Malvary makes a good point about how to fit the pricking on the foam roller... But when you make your pricking just a little bit bigger, you have to be careful as you work that it stays centered on the roller. Things have a tendency to drift off to one side, which can be annoying, to say the least. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] roller or block
You might one day like to try a bolster pillow. They are great for edgings and even small motifs, they take up less space than pillows on the flat, but they require a different application of the lacemaker than working with a flat arrangement. I have a narrow edging on a bolster right now and the unit packs up quickly and is quite portable compared to dealing with a pillow-and-roller setup. On the bolster I work with the bobbins in my palms, rather than placing my hands over the bobbins as on the flat, and I have to have a system of large pins to hang the bobbins out of the way as I work. I don't worry about a continuous (round and round) pattern, I just have a few lengths of the pattern to pin end to end as each shorter bit is finished. As others have mentioned, there is no real 'best' except best for the particular lacemaker to use at the time. I think you are making a good decision on getting the roller bit for the block pillow ;) On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Nancy Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I the site says that almost everyone uses block pillows instead. Which is best? Roller or block? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What are they?
Brenda and everyone They look like embroidery 'stilettos' where you poke a hole in the fabric and stitch around. There were some of bone, in a great-aunt's sewing box. The rings, maybe to cover with stitching as for buttons? or for another closure system? On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I have been sent a photo of some lace bobbins and lace rings which came from two elderly Dutch ladies who said they are ivory. I personally don't think they are ivory or lace bobbin but would be interested to know what anyone else thinks they are/were used for. Please have a look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/query.htm -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [lace] roller or block
This arrived in my inbox, I think meant for the whole list: -- Forwarded message -- From: Angel Skubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:02 PM Subject: RE: [lace] roller or block I have a small bolster and I am madly in love with it. My next pillow will be a full sized bolster that will be traditionally stuffed (I think I can get an English made one thru the Lace Fairy) Then I may get a honiton pillow which would be the next lace I would like to learn. Cearbhael You might one day like to try a bolster pillow. They are great for edgings and even small motifs, they take up less space than pillows on the flat, - Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thank you Alice and Angela
Hello to Alice, Angela and lace list The travel stories have been a real hit on the lace list. Thank you both, for relating your unique lace adventures. I, for one, have been alert and reading. It has been a real pleasure to travel along with you, without getting in the way (vbg). -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace bobbins
I think the bone vs. wood (or wood vs. bone to be diplomatic g) informal opinion poll is interesting vbg and yes isn't it wonderful we can have a choice. Clay wrote: I would love to be able to work with each of those very distinct styles of apparatus, just for the experience. I have a sort of collection like this - I have enough Spanish bobbins and a large bolster to work a decent (usually Torchon) pattern with them. I even use the 'continental' method (e.g. TC for half-stitch) when I work with them. When I wanted to teach myself Rosaline from a book I invested in the cat's tail bobbins, only 12 bobbins are needed then I got a lot more when I realized how nice they are to work with for other laces. Honiton bobbins and pillow for honiton lace of course when I was dabbling in that. I have lots and lots of spangled midlands, almost all wood or plastic, brought out for Beds or Buckspoint projects. The midlands are shelved for now while I concentrate on Flanders lace and using Flemish-style bobbins for it. I'm not into using bone, to handle it gives me the creeps. Ditto when I decided to try an old Buckspoint pricking, still with its eaches (sp), the linen tabs to pin it to the pillow; I rigged a midlands bolster stuffed with straw and hung on antique spangled midlands I'd bought on ebay - the dust of the ages was bothersome! The poor little bobbins had dried out considerably since they were first used, so the authentic experience was not to be had - but it had been fun assembling the components :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace Bobbins
Hello Daphne and everyone There are some excellent Q and As at Kenn van Dieren's site: http://www.bobbinmaker.com/faqbob.html My quick answer is if bone was nicer to work with than wood, for the bobbin maker, maybe we'd all be using more bone bobbins than wood bobbins. I prefer wood though, any time. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Representation of lace (loooong post)
Have not heard the term proddie or clippie rug, in North America we have hooked rugs from colonial times (though how far back, I don't know), sometimes made of wool yarn hooked in to the canvas (and yes, it is from sacking or what we call burlap bags), sometimes of rags torn in strips (this rug-hooking is seeing a hobby revival). The tool in question does resemble a lace bobbin but as others have pointed out , there should be many more of it to confirm this fact. I think it is a one-of and with the hole in the end, looks to me more like a purpose-made device, perhap as a large sewing needle to sew long leather cords where needed. We were resourceful back then - if we needed a tool to do a job we would make one. If the museum has done its research, there will be documentation to back up the claim that it is a bobbin for making lace, or the placard should state 'bobbin-questionmark'. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sue Duckles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it's a bradawl for a proddie or clippie rug... It would need to be strong enough to poke holes in sacking and poke either long or short lengths of fabric through the hole. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Representation of lace -oops
Sorry sent my last message to the whole list, probably no harm done but not lace related. Deleted it all to save a repeat herewith ~ Lace content: I'm doing a small mobile of a CTC tropical fish in yellow, bouncing over some sparkly blue waves in half-stitch. It is for a grand-baby shower. Bev near Sooke BC Canada etc. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Winding a skein of lace yarn without tools?
Hi Debora and everyone If you think you'll be buying more skeins of yarn/thread, do invest in an umbrella swift. I have several skeins of fine silk that I use for bobbin lace (equivalent to sewing machine thread size) and I would be lost and entangled if I tried to wind thread of these skeins without the support of the swift (a swift shouldn't be expensive, check handspinning suppliers online, Rovings comes to mind). With your 2-ply alpaca you can probably get away with placing a skein on a table with weights placed around the inside of the skein to keep it reasonably taut, but you will still have to wind it by hand. Probably just as well, because if you are going to use this alpaca for bobbin lace, you won't want the twist of the yarn disturbed; you can keep that under control as you wind. Ditto about the twist if you are using it for knitting,for that matter. Maybe the circumference of the skeins will adapt to going around a roll of blanket material, as a core, then you can unwind what you need from that. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Debora Lustgarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went on a shopping spree and came back with 14 skeins of lovely lace-weight 2-ply alpaca (700 grams of wool). Problem is, I have no winders or swifts to wind it... Have any of you come up with a solution that does not involve stretching the skein over the back of a chair and winding it by hand? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spare thread
Hello Wendy and everyone If in doubt, replace your 'old' thread with that newly unwound from the main spool. If thread has been wrapped around a bobbin for awhile it will 'remember' which you will see as curls when you take the thread off. Now, having said that: if wound correctly*, I haven't found that this curling interferes with the finished lace particularly, so if you want to be frugal with the thread, go ahead and mix. *Free advice about winding lace bobbins from the main spool of thread: make sure you aren't changing the twist in the thread - have the spool of thread [] and the lace bobbin || parallel to each other as you wind. []---|| On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have finished the lace for the hood and about to start a piece to go around the cloak. I still have a lot of thread left on some of the bobbins. Can I mix new thread with thread already on the bobbins or should I use new all the way through -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread assistance please
If the pattern is all in half-stitch, you could try any equivalent you have on hand to 'a' linen 60/3 (take your pick of wraps from the 3 choices); half-stitch is accommodating. It can squinch tight or open broadly, as long as there are at least three pairs to traverse the space. On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pricking calls for Kleines Motiv in Halbschlag 6 Paare, Leinen 60/3 (Beine: je 3 Paare) ... Again a guess it is in linen 60/3 but which one!! -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Another OIDFA clip - with ME
Comparing scars g I got no go in Win-Vista with Media Player, but everything promising in Internet Explorer - only drawback, I am on dialup and the connection was too slow for the streaming buffer. My loss :(( Nice that it is there to be seen, as possible! On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Windows, but could only get the initial box to open... no voice, no video!! -- Bev (near summer-y Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fan edging
So...it is an edging with fans at the headside, yes?! On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the fans are along the headside edge... but the design isn't one big fan - suitable for mounting on fansticks. Clay Karen wrote: No...still confused...What do you mean with a straight lace with fans in the design? Is it that the fans are not on the outer edge? Karen -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] vivienne lace fairs
In light of the recent discussion on lace-chat about travel complications within the UK, perhaps many who could attend a lace event are choosing not to, if the travel to it is difficult. As a sometime vendor myself, I notice that there tends to be a shopping trend in groups, if the consensus is 'go for it' they will all buy something; if a key person announces that they have all the lace supplies they need, others won't buy anything either (even if the group invites the vendor!). On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much of the reason for the decline in lace days is due to there being more old lacemakers dropping off the end than there are new ones coming along. Also I think that a lot of people tend to want shopping only - that's where the bigger fairs come in but even they are finding it harder to attract enough traders and customers. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Cheap bags for your TableMate
Hi Rhiannon and everyone Yes, definitely water resistant - I haven't had an occasion to test if it is completely waterproof, e.g. forgetting it outside in a downpour! - it is made of a woven plastic, v. strong. Your bag inside would be well protected and visible, definitely. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Rhiannon Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone tell me if these are waterproof _ish? I'm certain it must be better than my open topped homemade fabric bag but if the plastic is clear enough I could still show off the bag inside. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TableMate sizes
I think the large table would still fit in the Ikea bag, on the vertical diagonal, because of the depth of the bag - On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Jo Ann Eurell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure you all know that TableMates come in different sizes. Stacks and Stacks has three sizes including the large one: http://www.stacksandstacks.com/html/725_folding-table-table-mate.htm Since the large tables measure 25 1/2 would they fit in the IKEA bag or is it better for the smaller TableMates? wow, this gizmo is really cool! I want one! The laptop stand from Ikea is also excellent as a pillow stand (I have one - you can't have too many pillow..stands??) , though not portable like the Tablemate or this clever table tote. http://www.improvementscatalog.com/home/improvements/65748-table-toteTM-workt able.htmlhttp://www.improvementscatalog.com/home/improvements/65748-table-toteTM-worktable.html ...someone loaned me the table and I found it to be very stable. Just another option... -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese advice
For me, this is the best way to learn - the sampling is ok, too, but to have a real project to deal with, then you are discovering in real lace time how to do the lace! On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least I have at last done a piece of the lace instead of just promising myself I would learn the braids when I could and then try one:-) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Cheap bags for your TableMate
Welcome out of lurkdom Debora ;) (post again, post often!) The nice thing about Dimpa is you can see what is inside. VERY sturdy and roomy - they are intended for storing a car tire, and presumably the handles are strong enough to hoik the car tire somewhere - our lace stuff is safe within. I carried two tablemates to lace day in mine ;) and without table, excellent for toting a large pillow; or use one to store several smaller pillows, hang the unit out of the way. An excellent find. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Debora Lustgarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: delurking Dear Arachnes, I've just come back from my local IKEA and wanted to share the good tip. Their DIMPA plastic bag (their size 25 1/2 x 8 3/4 x 25 1/2) is perfect to fit the folded Table-Mate, with space to spare for a good size pillow and tools! -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Cheap bags for your TableMate
It is ideal for bulky lightweight awkward items - such as the tablemate, or an assortment of ethafoam pillows. I had the bag containing the two tablemates slung over my shoulder (I looked as if I might have been wearing a placard?!), hands free - now I'm not sure what would have happened if the wind had come up ~ there might have been liftoff :p On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does sound like a great deal on a nice sturdy bag!! My problem is that every time I tried to lift it I would aggravate my tennis elbow!!! It would take a strong arm to carry that bag, loaded to the max!! Old age is not for sissies... Clay bevw wrote: Welcome out of lurkdom Debora ;) (post again, post often!) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] leaves and tallies - with wire
Hello Wendy Well done on your first post :) (post again, post often!) Good question. It might be that making a leaf with wire is 'easier' than with thread (and they do look nice), but the two substances are quite different to handle. If you want to try the wire to see how the weaving process works, it might help. Too fine of wire can break when you don't want it to. My free advice is to practice with thick pearl cotton to figure out a method that works best for you, then graduate to a finer thread and a small pattern that features leaves for real practice. If you do try the wire, and then thread, let us know how it goes! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Wendy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using wire. Can you maybe use very thin wire to pracitise doing them so you can get the feel for the weaving. I have Christine's booklet Fun With Leaves but haven't had to time to try them yet too many other wonderful projects keep catching my eye. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [lace] leaves and tallies - with wire
I think this was meant for the entire list - a good tip about using wire: Subject: Re: [lace] leaves and tallies - with wire To: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wire also breaks if you have to redo a section. If you're careful, you can generally get away with re weaving it once. Twice if you're REALLY lucky. This applies regardless of how fine the wire is, or what it's made from, although I found silver slightly more forgiving than brass. Cherry Knobloch -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Gimps - either way
I am so far bound to 'lift the left' - it is a habit that stuck and stayed, maybe because most always I lift the left thread with the left hand? and the next habit (good or bad) is a visual check to add a twist if needed. Sometimes I don't want one there :p I will try the 'lift the right' method in a small project, and see how my mind copes (it is prone to wandering, especially while in the lace zone :S) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It actually makes no difference to the appearance whether the gimp goes under the right or left hand thread. What is altered is the twists before and after. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] de-lurking - gimp thread
Hello Elise and everyone On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Scott Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am wondering if it matters at all, or if the over-right-under-left is just for point ground and it is done another way in Torchon. I have long ago forgotten any rule that applies, specifically, except to be consistent. So, out of habit for any lace I lift the left bobbin, pass the gimp through the pair (it has gone over the right bobbin, and under the left). I do that for any lace, putting a twist or two to the pair as required (or not - it depends on the pattern) before or after the gimp. In some laces, e.g. Flanders, there are no twists; in others at least one on one side, if not both. Then again it depends on the effect I'm after. Does this help? Welcome out of lurkdom. Post again, post often :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] leaves and tallies
I almost always end a leaf tally with a half-stitch (CT, occasionally TC if 'C' is required to start the next bit). The hs acts as a lock. I'm not bad at leaf tallies now, on the cookie pillow, and I can even 'leave' the pillow with the 'leaf' half-finished, and resume some other time without the leaf looking ragged (good, eh?) If it is a square tally, I put an extra twist on each pair, having decided at which side the weaver bobbin should end, and support one or both pairs if the tally looks tentative on its own, until anchored by the next stitches. I have not masterd the making of tallies on the bolster pillow with the holding of the bobbins palms up to make a leaf. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... here's the next explosive subject for debate:WHAT TO DO WITH THE WORKER AND MATE at the end of the tally??? Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subject: RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Jewelry in sterling silver??
I agree with you here: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Francis Busschaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is unpleasant in touching it extremly smelly in a very jakkieway and it did almost never dowhat i wanted it to do I think there are better ways to make silver wire lace! I'm sure that was the original question, wanting more information about wire lace, particularly regarding the Estonian wire lace artist. I have seen nice examples made in porcelain clay, that resemble lace. The topic is about wire lace and went off on a tangent with the silver clay ;) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subject: RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Jewelry in sterling silver??
I think we're all on the same wavelength with wire - it is the silver clay 'cord' that gives us a headache, if we try to make 'lace' with it! Of course it was never intended for lacemaking ;) Somebody, somewhere, might be able to create lace in silver clay cords. I like the silver clay pendants I made, with a lace-like impression on the surface. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Kim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis, Working with wire is quite fun. You use the same patterns and can use the same bobbins to work in wire. , I would not be inclined to work with the clay for this purpose.. I do hear, however, that it is great for some applications such as findings. Kim -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Admiration/list support
Hello Rhiannon and everyone At one time, this lace list was my sole support in lacemaking - the contributors brought me out of a muddle of half-learned lace lessons and uninspired work. I had taken the lessons with a group in the village nearby but time and work interfered with progress. When that group started a lace club, it was too difficult for me to attend the meetings. The internet wasn't as 'everywhere' as it is now, but it was on the move, and at least I had an internet connection. So - when I found arachne, hardly a year after this lace e-mail list had been started by Liz Reynolds, I realized I had joined a huge lace group! I still work a lot on my own; now I'm able to lend support to others. Very satisfying ;) On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Rhiannon Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: confidence. I thank Dot, Daphne and Sue for their nice comments on my work especially as I have no group or class to confirm what I'm doing. I'm sure others out there use this list as their only support too- I would be interested to know how many others are doing this? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada where the Swiftsure sailing race is still underway) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Arachne meeting at OIDFA - with camera!
Hi everyone and especially those meeting at OIDFA - don't forget to take a picture or two to smile back at us left behind :)) Please! :D I'm sure you would anyway, just thought I'd pipe up. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Faye Owers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good to me, I am leaving Australia Tuesday for the start of my 7.5 week journey to Europe and OIDFA. SoWe meet at 11:30 on Friday. I propose we meet at the entrance to the Oosterpoort, then walk together across the canal and find a restaurant. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Silver Wire Lace/clay cord
Hello Cherry and everyone I have done a bit of work with 'silver clay' - you can buy prepared cord, too, (or is that what you already have?). I think it must be made by extrusion. When I had the small packet to play with, I made some tiny rolls to make a short BL plait. The trick is to keep it moist without it melting; management technique is important if doing an ambitious woven piece using the cord. My clay management doesn't extend to bobbin lace though - I ended up making a broad silver-clay fitting to which a textile lace could be attached. Yes silver clay requires specific tools, especially the kiln. A blow-torch can be used on small projects (with a fireproof surface). On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Cherry Knobloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know more about how precious metal clay is turned into a cord. I know that the 'clay' itself is actually an organic binder. It's been around for about 15 years and was developed in Japan. It's come a long way since then. A few ceramic artists have tried incorporating it into pottery but the firing temperatures are too different and the silver often ends up burning away. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
Hello Ilske and everyone On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Ilske Thomsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know but it si interesting to look at words from every side Yes! a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould if 'sponge' -like in appearance, perhaps an English equivalent is 'mottled' (spotty, streaked - like on some animal's skins) or 'crazed' - the mesh of uneven cracks in pottery, and from 'crazed' to 'crazy' to... wild?... and what Jo mentioned for mushroom reminds me also on something like this. Bevv found perhaps the nearest explanation: sham imitatio, conterfeit, pretence But than I am wondering why U. V. used an English expression. Words are fun :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RXP user group?
Hello Ruth and everyone There are various ways to set up an e-mail group or online forum for special interests, it sounds like the Lace R-XP users would benefit! This is not to say I mind the topic on arachne, rather a suggestion for an efficient way to discuss and archive useful topics, could be linked from the software seller's website. Might be worth looking into. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just answered a query privately, and thought this might be a good warning for those of you trying the Lace RXP programme...if you've been used -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] More on copyright
Yes, good question. If there is a publisher and place stated, I would consult the appropriate government or library agency in the country of origin, that would advise on copyright. If you do a google search for, for example 'copyright in name of country' you should get some useful links. Chances are, without a date, it is an early publication (earlier than the time frame of copyright that has been mentioned). But consider fair use, one can make a copy of a particular page for research purposes (lacemaker's research, yes?). However selling it is not right, and passing it off as one's own is not right, either. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question: If there is no date printed in the book, how can I exercise due diligence to determine if it is still in copyright? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wilder ground
I have worked this ground - it was on the wings of a moth pattern in Ulrike Löhr's small book Schmetterlinge. Yes, as Martina points out, it gives the impression of irregularity, but it is regular to work, which is fun! For interesting effects, try it in colours, with thick and thin threads (try it in variegated thread :p ) On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has a worker running from edge to edge. The 2 stitches alternate in each row horizontally and vertically. It gives the impression of irregularity. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] personal thread catalogue
One idea I got from a lace pal is a working database - all threads are sorted and stored according to the wrap sizes given in Brenda Paternoster's book Threads for Lace (T4L). e.g. the Special Dentelles 80 and equivalent sizes of other brands are together. If a pattern is to be enlarged, or reduced, one would check the ratio of wraps per Brenda's book, and locate the respective size of thread if it is in one's stash. I haven't done this myself. I have wanted but not yet got, a handheld device for storing data (can't recall the acronym, Palm makes one) thinking I would use it for threads, useful on shopping trips (maybe?) - for now I just truffle into the stash, clumped in clear boxes labelled 'cotton' 'linen' 'metallic and other' - and I keep my copy of T4L within reach! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Rhiannon Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I apologise if this has been discussed previously but I was wondering if anyone has created a database or catalogue of threads they own so that when they come to do a project with different thread they can check what they have and then use it otherwise place and order or change the pattern size acordingly. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Gravenmoerse - translation please
Hello Viv and everyone On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gesloten speldslag; closed pin stitch (CTT, pin, CTT - or TTC, pin, TTC depending on whether you use the closed or open method of lacemaking) and knipschaar (I don't know this one) I assume that linnenslag means whole stitch or linen stich, cloth stitch - CTC The instructions describe Brussels Ground - Is this the most usual ground for this type of lace? yes, if Brussels ground is TTC, pin, TTC or CTT, pin, CTT Is rechte rand a torchon type straight edge? right side? rechte is right (as opposed to left). What is the Gravenmoerse way of doing picots? (knotted like Bayeux lace or several twists like Bucks?) twisted picot: twist the pair 7 times, do the pin thing and set it, tension with the left thread and twist the pair once. from the LOKK book -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Gravenmoerse - translation - rechte rand
'rechte rand' is 'right edge' On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is rechte rand a torchon type straight edge? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Gravenmoerse - translation - 'rechte'
oops yes, 'rechte' is 'straight' On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM, J. Falkink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right side? rechte is right (as opposed to left). -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] variegated thread pictures
Hello everyone My internet connection has been uneven this weekend but today I finally uploaded several photos to my blog, of some experiments with variegated threads. My scanner was puzzled by the fabric backgrounds I used, and I should re-do them with paper background. But - another day, when the line speed is better. Warning, the three pictures could appear bright and busy! http://www.looonglace.blogspot.com/ --- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Variegated thread
This is a hot tip for using variegated thread (first some preamble) It depends on the effect the lacemaker likes, doesn't it? but so long as you avoid half stitch, Or meet it head on ;) After some thought, what Brenda does with thread and lace inspired me about the core of the matter - via thread wraps: So, hot tip for using variegated thread - wrap the thread around various widths of card to test the limits of the colour sequence. That will give an idea of the colour behaviour in a cloth stitch area, if using the variegated as weavers, and will also show whether or not the sequence is a repeat or at random. Get to know the thread and it will work for you :D As to colour choice in the variegateds - entirely up to the lacemaker ;) On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Steff has hit the nail on the head here. I don't often use variegated thread but if I do I choose subtle changes of colour. On the whole though, I prefer using solid colours. Often lots of them in the same piece, there is so much more control over which colours to choose and how it will work out. All the pieces that people are pleased with use a variegated thread with a small range of colour variation - shades of one colour, or two adjacent colours on the colour wheel. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dictionary
Hello Alex (and everyone) well now, this is delightful to see you on Arachne, and that a revision is underway to your excellent lace dictionary. I for one have used definitions from it in messages to the lace list ;) I would definitely buy the revised copy too. Is it very cheeky/permissable to ask Aracne members if there are any refrences they would like explained, added or corrected. I would, of course, post these entries on Aracne as I research them. Excellent suggestion! -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Torchon - vocabulary needed
Hello Martina and everyone The first fan that you describe is what I know as a 'fir-tree fan' - another name is a Spanish fan, also palm or feather fan. The other could be a shell fan , or French fan, and in French, they say 'coquille' (scallop, I think. A scallop in English describes a scooping line, like the curved fan, and the scallop is also the name of an edible shellfish, the shell of which is 'scallop-shaped'). On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, I enjoy your discussion about Torchon. I started learing bobbin lace mainly doing tape lace. I am working on a roller pillow and I have done some Torchon by now. Now I am looking for some vocabulary: Is there an own expression for a fan if you go all the way down through the center to a pin picking up each thread on the way down and leaving them back to the headside. (in German we call it Mittelrippe central rib). How do you call the ornament which is a fan which winds its way further out of the footside. If you need an illustration I can send you them. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Tamara's Rosalibre
Doesn't Schneeberg lace have that distinction also? How about Sluis --- Withof Duchesse? Lutac? On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . It is, afterall, the only lace (so far, anyway) which had been invented, from scratch, in the 21st century. It is still fluid as to the rules and traditions; it's not yet reached the point where anyone is going to scold you for doing something wrong... I used to have Cathy's book. The page of copyright provisos put me off. More's the pity, I gave the book away without even trying any of the patterns. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] what did you do ...to learn bobbin lace
oh my - I don't think there is a basis to learning Torchon 'first' - it is a methodical, geometric lace full of surprises. I'm still learning it after a decade or so. The first BL lessons I took were in the Cluny style. I then embarked on a brief learning session with Honiton. I didn't know about the Torchon grid or point ground until much later. The only 'basis' of all the laces is cross and twist! On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You learnt Torchon AFTER Bucks and Beds? I was firmly told I had to learn Torchon before I could attempt any other lace type as the rest are based on Torchon! Perhaps my 'lace teacher' should have said 'I do Torchon, so can show you that' rather than the bald statement above :-( Yes ;) Not to worry, I am still learning Torchon after 3 years - yes, I have been making lace for 3 years now gasp And still going from strength to strength :D -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] what did you ...Torchon
I hope that this concept is one day put to rest. True, a 'torchon' in French, is a rag, but it is a rag that you twist (to get the water out) = torsion. Twist/torsion/Torchon. I don't see anything raggedy about Torchon lace :p Torchon can be made in fine, fine thread, or coarse thread, and still maintains its qualities. Oh and I've been guilty of saying that Torchon is a place in France, to a non-lacemaker, because it was the simplest explanation at the time :S As Robin points out, it is not mundane or boring - at least, let's say it doesn't have to be, and not necessarily easy. Yes, Torchon lace is music to the eyes! On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . It's one of the few laces that's not named for a place of origin--I've heard it said the name refers to rags and it is therefore a mundane lace for household goods, not a fine lace for gowns, etc. Unfortunately, all of this gives torchon a bad name. Many people believe one must start with torchon because beginning is all it's good for anyway. Many people look down their noses at the beginner's/mundane/easy/boring lace. Personally, I like torchon. While I love learning new lace styles, I also love the geometric designs of torchon. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Identification
Hello Beverly and everyone In a recent perusal of the how-to book of Schneeberger lace by Lia Baumeister, I notice she specifies Special Dentelles 80 or Venus tatting cotton for the patterns. The 2 little balls Venus could be tatting cotton? Does this help? On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Beverly Bronner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to set me straight. The thread is 2 little balls Venus If Venus is not available maybe there is a substitute you could suggest. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thank you.../half-stitch edge
The extra twist enhances the edge, too. For the firmest edge, although a bit bulky, work CTCT, pin, CTCTT (the extra T, to keep the same weaver bobbin). Where you want to vary the weaver bobbin, e.g. if thread is running out, omit the extra T. On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you do put an extra twist at the end of a row of half stitch; that makes the same worker thread go back across the half stitch whilst its partner will go off wherever. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pivot Pin
Hello Jane and everyone I looked up 'pivot pin' in the Illustrated Dictionary of Lacemaking (Alexandra Stillwell, ISBN 0-304-34145-2), and checked what Bridget Cook offers in Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace (ISBN 0-486-25561-1) both books have been out of print, the latter might be available again. Both books offer helpful suggestions. If you are thinking of investing in either or both - the first covers a range of lacemaking terms, the second is concerned with bobbin lace only, per the title. so, the pivot pin: Yes, that is a lot of thread around one pin, however, it can be done. Work across the first pass, twist the weaver pair once or twice, then pass the weaver pair under the inside passive before the pin (let's call it X) - don't weave (e.g. CTC) through it. That reduces bulk already. On the next row, heading towards the pivot pin again, take weaver pair over the inside passive X, around the pivot pin, twist, take weaver pair under passive X, and continue in usual weaving to the outside edge; repeat. So, at the pivot pin always you are lifting weaver pair over or under passive X, not weaving through it as with the other passives. When do you remove the pin: Every few passes, take the pivot pin out and tension the pairs, allowing the loops to settle in close to each other. On the last pass, after lifting weaver pair over passive pair X, go around the pin and twist, now weave through passive X to end the turn. That first and last weaving through X bookends the loops. Take the pin out for the last time, if you wish, when you have worked several more pins after that. I hope that helps. I am needing some information about a pivot pin. ...Do I understand correctly that both ends have about 14 times that the worker pair goes around the same pin - pivot pin? If that is so, there is a lot of thread that builds up on that pin. So, at what point do I pull the pin? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] to tat, or (k)not
Hi everyone I taught myself tatting years ago, from a library book and a piece of string. Seeing the knot transfer in a large 'format' gave me the confidence to work with shuttle and thread. Maybe the string idea will work for someone else, too. I then made quite a few pieces by following a photograph of the item, rather than written instructions. But that was then. Tatting is something I cannot do any more. There is something between brain and fingers that simply makes me dislike doing it, akin to being forced to write with the non-dominant hand. Now 'all' I can do is bobbin lace. And appreciate the tatting that others do so well ;) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lurker update
She's away to the races ;) Brilliant! On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Angela Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I did it!! The sun was shining, all your mails behind me, so I .. at the book for the second repeat, then I was away. I have prepared a second pricking of a handkerchief edging which also features the fir tree fan -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Spiral (self-threading) Needles The Gift of Time
Interesting concept. I wonder if the open bit of eye would tend to catch? Another aid to needle-threading is a little device made in Italy, called an automatic needle threader. I haven't tried it - am tempted. *http://tinyurl.com/598klh *usual disclaimers. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Lacemakers, Though some dislike sewing, there are times when a needle is necessary to attach lace or attend to urgent repairs. Lacefairy sent me this connection a _http://tinyurl.com/398y37_ -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] needle threader link
Hi everyone Sorry if the picture link didn't work. The Lee Valley article no. (gadget number?!) is 45K27.05 and its entry should be here *http://tinyurl.com/599c3a* -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lurker - project to resume lace
Hello Angela and everyone Makes complete sense. After an illness, I enjoyed making the Christine Springett snake, with colours and metallics. I made it all in CTC the first time, then another go, gaining confidence, made a half-stitch bit down the centre. Soothing, and rewarding. My free advice is to choose a pattern that has step by step instructions and/or a clear working diagram. If you need a purpose for your lace, and you have chosen an edging, make a length just long enough to tie around a small vase. A Christmas ornament might be a good re-entry project, too. Have fun, and let us know how it goes. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Angela Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: class in a nearby town - don't know if it's still there. The class not the town :) My problem is, what to start with? I need something fairly simple, 'cause I have to relearn all over again, but not mind-numbing so I have a sense of achievement. Does that make sense? I would be glad to hear your suggestions. I'm having to work to get my concentration back, but I still have all my books and equipment, and I reckon if I did it once I can do it again. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pillow help needed - polystyrene...ethafoam
In self-defense: The correspondent needed a source for the blocks, and SMP is a lace supplier of some - yes the SMP blocks are polystyrene, but they are ready to go, as it were. And the shipping to Malta from the UK might not be too costly (just doing some second-guessing). Dow has its product everywhere LOL. The ethafoam I use for lace pillows is blue (I have some white, from computer packing, some pink, from sound system packing); there is a new black product for flotation that the plastics guy showed me, for it being of higher density. It has a 'skin' on it, for its industrial purposes. I didn't think it was suitable for lace-block-pillow making. You are right, the product varies throughout the world. 'closed-cell foam' is the generic term for ethafoam. It is the closed-cell property that makes it ideal for lacemaking, where the self-plastic heals from pinning. But, Dow doesn't cater to lacemakers, that I know of ~ so we use what we can. The cheap pool noodle product is the least stable (for pinning into) of the ethafoams; for a while there was a jumbo noodle, in purple, that was quite good. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bev wrote: SMP lace in the UK sell block pillows and extra blocks. For info, the website is www.smplace.co.uk I think we've had this discussion before. SMP pillows are made from polystyrene (the while stuff), not ethafoam. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace Before Bobbinlace
Definitely, you can say that again! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Daphne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its funny how Bobbinlace takes over your life is`nt it??? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pillow help needed
I do not like to push the big divider pins into my ethafoam pillows either. (it seems barbaric!) The corsage pins are ok. I only use the big divider pins on the pillows stuffed firmly with wool or straw. Jenny, your directions and advice are brilliant, as always. Thank you for sharing them. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Jenny De Angelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I never use on my block pillows are the usual divider pins as they are quite thick and make a large hole in the pillow. I buy some long glass headed pins which tend to be pretty fine and use those as dividers instead. Some haberdashers sell pins that are long and fine with pearly tops to them, here they sell them individually but they come on a card. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Lurkers and questions
Yes, totally! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same question as asked 3 years ago, may elicit different answers today -- profiting *all of us*. Only the unasked question is the dumb uestion. For instance, something as seemingly obscure as 'how do you hold the bobbin when you wind it...?' is not at all a useless question. I recall 'way back someone did ask that - and the replies were thoughtful helpful. Having said it, it is up for grabs again, too ;) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Happy Birthday to us
So that makes this April 12 the 13th anniversary of lace-at-arachne-dot-com. How appropriate, from the 'anniversary gift list' we can choose from Honey, *lace*, hollyhock, and citrine as presents to ourselves! -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]...and Arachne notes
That's a coincidence. I took an evening workshop in 'how to use the internet' for work. We were to search for a subject of choice. I had been struggling with bobbin lace, and typed in 'bobbin lace' in the search engine (was it altavista?!) and there was Arachne. That was April 1996 when the messages were about the first anniversary! Another useless tidbit, the instructor had suggested we type in 'Indy 500' because that was his interest, and I wondered why I would want to check out the Indy when bobbin lace was 'my' interest...and (the factoid continues) when I posted to the lace list about the divergent topics, someone wrote to me that yes indeed there were lacemakers at the Indy races and they would sit together with their lace pillows while the cars were warming up. Yeah, right... but I went along with it, if lacemaking could be encouraged at the Indy...so if anyone reading happens to combine car racing and lacemaking, I'll be glad to hear of it :p On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three years later, May 1996, my husband set up a computer for me and made me sit down and 'type something' in the search. I typed 'bobbin lace' and found Arachne -- just after its first anniversary. There were 300 members at that time. A year later someone suggested that Arachne needed to have a conference and t -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] what did you do before bobbin lace
Clay wrote: I'll be curious to hear what others do in addition to their lacemaking! I had a considerable stash of weaving and spinning supplies before bobbin lace engulfed my time. I still do a bit of both, couldn't part with all the spinning wheels, so kept one (of 6) and one loom (of 6), one large box of weaving yarns (of X number...my what a lot of space left for bobbin lace stuff!), and exotic fibre to spin on a rainy day. I did keep the drop spindles which don't take up much space. However, as soothing as handspinning can be, it doesn't have the puzzle-solving appeal of making lace. And weaving was just too hard on my shoulders. I have made handspun just for lace, but the commercial threads do a much better job LOL and I'd rather knit with my handspun. So my secondary past-time is knitting. While I appreciate embroidery and other stitchery, needlework isn't for me to do, unless I'm attaching lace to a piece of fabric with a simple running stitch (for some reason I like doing that). And I'm curious to know if many others are allergic to needle and thread, like myself :S -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [!! SPAM] [lace] Pillow help needed - and ethafoam
Hello Karen and eveyone Ethafoam is a closed-cell foam used by 'industry' such as for flotation, or insulation, and sometimes as packing - if there is a plastics fabricator where you are, they should know about it and probably have some (I notice at the one in my area, they just call this stuff 'Dow' - ethafoam itself is a Dow chemical product). Perhaps at a building supply place there is something else like it that you could use. You only want an endcut, they might sell cheaply. If your computer packing is really ethafoam, and not styrofoam, all you need is a 5 x 5 piece for each block. It doesn't even have to be deep; the block can be built of a layer of styrofoam packing, and a layer of ethafoam on top. Styrofoam is made of compressed beads of plastic that eventually crumble if pinned into repeatedly. The closed-cell foams 'heal' when a pin is pushed in and taken out. I suppose eventually it will break down, too, from long use. In that case I would just replace the particular block. SMP lace in the UK sell block pillows and extra blocks. For info, the website is www.smplace.co.uk Hope this helps. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruth - can you tell me where you bought the ethafoam from and if they sell overseas by mail order. I have been unsuccessfully trying to purchase ethafoam in Malta but few, if any, know about it yet and it doesn't seem to -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pillow help needed - block pillow
Yes, wood can be heavy. But you can find lightweight wood. I have two block pillows. One is 3 x 3 blocks. My DH and I made the base for it from half-inch plywood and the base trim that goes around a room (what is that called, wainscotting? baseboard trim?). The wood trim is rather pretty, but yes the thing is REALLY heavy; I'm going to make a better, lighter base for it eventually. Block pillow #2 is 8-sided; comprised of 5 squares and 4 triangles. I love it - the corners don't gouge me when I'm turning the pillow. The base is quarter-inch plywood with cedar lathe for the sides. It is really sturdy, very light especially for its size, and holds the blocks snugly. I can carry it on its side (i.e. vertically) and the blocks don't fall out. A tip for the DIY pillow maker, make the base after you have made the pillow blocks for a better fit. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wood bases can make the thing very heavy. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] silk thread - Malta
I do not know where the thread came from for the Maltese lace... but mulling it over - I have a piece of Beds Maltese, and a silk machine-lace tablecloth from England, maybe from the 1920's - the handmade lace is of much finer thread, but both are shiny, slippery, and that particular 'custard' colour. Perhaps the silk for both came from the same source. Silk thread was produced in England, could have come from France (similar to Aur Ver a Soie?)? - or the Orient? Apart from that, another resource to mend the Maltese lace would be a same-vintage silk textile that could be unravelled of a length of the thread. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't claim any expertise in Maltese lace, or silk threads either. But recently, I used Au Ver a Soie to make a small piece, and it was delightful to work with. My hunch is that this silk is not glossy enough for Maltese. The weight of the thread is probably right, and the color is the wonderful natural (unprocessed) silk color. So, for anyone knowledgeable about the silk once used for Maltese, could you please tell us how Au Ver a Soie measures up for this? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Easy Lace and vista
Hello everyone The recent postings about Lace 2000 and vista, prompted me to check out the Easy Lace site vs. vista, which I now have (vista, that is). I am a staunch supporter of the E-L program, no connections, just a satisfied customer etc. etc., and yes from the home page there is some useful information. Then, I saw under new software, a demo version for Easy Knit - so will be playing with that to decide if it is a worthwhile investment. At this time it doesn't seem to be set up for coded instructions as for lace knitting, more for sweaters and intarsia-type pictures. -- Bev (where winter/spring is here, near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Replica Christening Gown
There is a photo of the tot in his gown, and with his mum and dad here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7354474.stm The lace - hard to tell what it is :( and in a older article about his big sis' christening, this mention: For the occasion, Louise wore the 163 year old honiton lace and white satin christening gown which was made for Queen Victoria's eldest daughter, Victoria, and is traditionally worn by all members of the royal family. So, if a replica, there could be handmade lace on it, but it would be new handmade lace, I would think. Perhaps a query directed to the Honiton Museum in Devon? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James wore a replica of the satin and lace royal christening gown, which was made in 1841 and had been used for every royal christening until this one. The new robe was commissioned by the Queen to preserve the original. Does anyone know if the replica has machine or handmade lace on it? Any details? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace publicity
You are right about getting publicity, especially if the budget is zero dollars - an ad or two might be well spent if that would open the door for a newsworthy article in the newspaper, a tradeoff (if published in time?!). On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Sally Schoenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some years ago I contacted the local newspaper about a lace event, hoping for publicity. A reporter came round to interview and take photos. The paper published a very nice article with photos AFTER the event, when it was too late for newcomers to attend. Publicity is difficult to manage, with pitfalls hidden around every corner! -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Janice is now Famous!
Hi Janice and everyone At last, I was able to see the tv clip while at a highspeed pc connection - there was background noise (in the room) and I didn't hear it well; the production itself is excellent, and yes it takes that long to get a short bit of good viewing, with all the camera work. I was impressed that in the brief time 'lace' got such good coverage with several frames of historical lace, then a variety of views of lacemaking - closeup, hands-on, shots of the lacemaker entering the room to start work at the pillow, and views of the lacemaker at work, and in conversation with Porterfield (who was, except for one frame, off-camera).I saw the missed pin! but only because you mentioned it - and it didn't matter. The lacemaking part segued directly to the talking head reading the convention announcement (which I didn't hear at all, tsk). In the brief time you had, whatever you said as you made the lace was fine, to the non-lacer - if you had said 'close the pin with a stitch' - I wonder what the average viewer would have imagined :p So 2 times some millions of viewers (was Oprah watching?) divided by 60 - that should cover your demonstration hours for a long time ;) On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue, I was nervous but the first hour was spent with me making lace while the cameraman filmed from all angles, including looking down over the upstairs balcony. At one time he had the heavy camera resting on my pillow. That must have been when he took the shots up close so it looked like a forest of pins. I made almost -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] silk thread
To add to the information provided by Jane and Brenda, I used reeled silk in several point ground projects (with what seemed like an oversize silk floss for the gimp thread, but which showed the motif outlines nicely), and the Gutermann silks in some colour Milanese pieces, good results with each. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Barbara Saltern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently been able to pick up some silk thread at my local fabric shops. One type was Gutermann's and the other is a Clover product. One is a matte finish (Gutermann's) and the other is shiny. According to Brenda's book the Gutermann's is spun and the Clover is reeled. What does does this last bit of information mean and how does it affect its use in bobbin lace? Does one work better than the other or just differently. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dyed Lace-wrapped Easter Eggs...now doilie bowls
I, too, cringe at the thought of applying goop to heirloom 'doilies' or even to fabric. My idea:- find a nice glass bowl, line that with the doily or the lace fabric, and nestle the Easter eggs, or such in that. So, it isn't crafty, but it looks nice. The colours will peek through the lacey holes through the glass. The doily can be laundered, goopless, as desired. bye for now Bev (not feeling very crafty! in Shirley, west of Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver IslandCanada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace on Irish dance costumes?
Hi Patsy and everyone Go here: http://www.annmargaretkeller.com/ Click on Sna Si (fairy threads). On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Patsy A. Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, A few years ago, I remember seeing some pictures of Irish dance costumes that were decorated with hand made lace. I'm not sure, but think it may -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fwd: Laura Morellis The Genuine Article aka Brazilian lace
Nice to have this link again (it was posted earlier, too). As in the previous posting, my browser chopped the url, deactivating part of it, so could not see the article from the link you gave - here it is tinied *http://tinyurl.com/3dmmwr* On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've trained my family and friends well; whenever they come accross anything to do with textiles, especially lace, they send clippings of forwards. Today, I got two such :) bobbin lace in Brasil... http://www.nationalgeographic.com/traveler/extras/shoppingguide/ morelli0802.html -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] gimp loops
Hi Micki and everyone A gimp loop: used in point ground where the gimp takes an irregular path (irregular to tradition :p ) e.g. runs uphill from a point that cannot be made until the upper part of the lace is made (what to do?!). At a convenient point, the gimp thread is unwound a fair amount in a large loop that is pinned somewhere out of the way on the pillow, but convenient to the bobbins so that as the area is worked, the bobbins pass around the gimp thread as usual while lacing within the loop. Eventually the gimp thread will be pulled through the weavings already in place. If one doesn't tension the lace too tightly, the gimp passage is smooth, and as you pull on the loop thread, the gimp outline settles neatly in place. I have tried it, and it works :) On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:28 AM, micki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone care to explain what a gimp loop is? Or even point to a website where it is explained? A search of google has taken me down interesting paths, but they were definitely not lacey paths g -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaker pin - picture source - thanks
Aha, then I wasn't imagining things. Thank you for sharing about this particular article. This is the one I recall seeing. The further articles are a bonus. Thanks everyone who gave information about them. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just by chance I came across an article by Catherine on ages 36 and 37 of issue 80 (October 1995) of 'Lace'. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaker - picture source - Lacemaker story
Hello everyone again, and Jean N. oops and here I thought Jean had found another article from the one first pointed out to me (I'll go hide for awhile, shall I?). In any case, my thanks are still the same ;) For anyone who cares to know the full saga of 'this' Lacemaker, I 'inherited' a framed copy of the Colin Carr illustration published in 'This England' in 1970 (can be viewed at the Lace Fairy website, in the gallery, at 'lace art' - picture 8 I think, or thereabouts). I don't know if the previous owner had framed it, or someone else - the page has tack marks in the corners, so must have been displayed on a wall, before it was put into a simple frame. Tucked in behind the backing-cardboard is an article about bobbin lace in England. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the subject, in one way or another, I now have further reference information for the next owner. The 'inheritance' was by chance - a lace acquaintance mentioned my name in passing to someone helping her move. When she passed away, the helper remembered. I stored it for some years, have found a new owner for it. Both re-rendered 'portraits' of this lacemaker are fun. A shame we don't know who was in the original photo? On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just by chance I came across an article by Catherine on ages 36 and 37 of issue 80 (October 1995) of 'Lace'. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemaker pin - copyright
I was looking into this for another matter, and yes, the 70 years applies to the US; the sovereign nations signed in 1988 at the Berne Convention. Interesting, for anonymous or pseudonymous works, the copyright protection is even longer, 95 years from publication, or 120 years from creation, whichever is shorter. And that applies to lace patterns too ;) The annoying part is for the owner of the original piece to have to prove ownership if copyright is violated. What a time waster :( On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think copyright laws are different in the US than here. You have automatic copyright here and it lasts until 70 years after the author's/artist's death. In the USA I believe it doesn't last that long and don't you have to register copyright there? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brazilian lace
The url code didn't wrap. I did a Tiny: *http://tinyurl.com/2s2y5h *Should work ;) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Margot Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's an interesting article on Brazilian lace in National Geographic Traveller on-line: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/traveler/extras/shoppingguide/ morelli0802.html -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Brazilian lace - wrong tiny, arrgh
Ooops no, that won't work at all blush Try this one: *http://tinyurl.com/3dmmwr* On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:52 PM, bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The url code didn't wrap. I did a Tiny: *http://tinyurl.com/ *Should work ;) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Margot Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's an interesting article on Brazilian lace in National Geographic Traveller on-line: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/traveler/extras/shoppingguide/ morelli0802.html -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] looking for source in Lace
Hi everyone, and anyone with an index to Lace, or access to back-issues (time on hands an asset?!...) I am looking for the issue number of the magazine containing an article about the illustrative 'Lacemaker' - a painted picture that had been published in This England in the early 1970's - and I think later described in Lace, comparing the illustration to an original photograph, itself less fanciful than the illustration, also I think there were several illustrators of the same subject. She wears a hat, there is a bird in a cage in the cluttered little room where she sits at her lace pillow. Any help would be appreciated. I have the illustration, torn from the magazine by a previous owner, would like to put some source information with it (not the article itself, although that would be nice, but simply a reference would be great). IIRC there was this informative article in Lace. TIA -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] looking for source in Lace - thanks
I wrote: Hi everyone, and anyone with an index to Lace, or access to back-issues (time on hands an asset?!...) I am looking for the issue number of the magazine containing an article about the illustrative 'Lacemaker' - a painted picture that had been published in This England in the early 1970's The very same is number 8 in the gallery of Lori the Lacefairy, compare with photos 5 through 9 here: *http://tinyurl.com/2wyb45* - and ... IIRC there was this informative article in Lace. Well, now - Thanks everyone who has responded to my plea for help. I think I have made things difficult with incorrect recall...the article comparing several renderings of this Lacemaker (and the original photograph) was probably not in 'Lace' so please don't stay up all night looking through back issues for me ~ -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] book for designing without a pattern
Hi everyone Designing free-lace is about deciding what a lace element will look like when applied in a particular way, then experimenting with it. Lace at the Windows of Heaven. A Fresh Look at Bobbin Lace by Jean Mary Eke. ISBN 978-0-9554694-8-0. This little booklet is a nice read about one lacemaker's journey in making original lace, inspired by specific religious themes. Several pictoral pieces are described, made using 'part' lace methods, such as Milanese and Honiton, and basic bobbin lace technique. The interpretations are artistic, and thoughtful. Worth investigating. -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] how do I
What kind of lace do you want to make, from the line drawing? Torchon itself, or a tape lace? or something else again... One of my own early designs was a daffodil, made flat - I made a line drawing from a painting I liked. I looked at a logical starting 'point' - it was a line, of the trumpet - and drew CTC lines back and forth across the shape, deciding where I might end that bit, and/or finagling the bobbins as a group over to another bit, to complete lower petals. I made edge decisions (sewing edge, turns around the pin or perhaps picot) for appearance; you know you can put extra twists to the weaver and/or passives to create spaces, the spaces can suggest shape or shadow anyway. I played with it for quite awhile. Then I made another one with CT instead of the CTC areas and liked that better. Even earlier than this, I made a llama, a tiny weaving starting at the ears, with two leaf tallies. I zigzagged back and forth over the line drawing I had made, using it as a pricking and judging by eye where the weaving should go. I was quite pleased that it actually looked like a llama when finished. I made two, one to keep, one to give away. Oddly enough, 'my copy' of the llama showed up in My Stuff just recently. lace list history time If anyone reading this remembers the wedding veil project for the list owner - the tiny llama was my contribution. The arachne subscribers were sending little motifs on themes that Liz liked, for her to use on her wedding veil. Further to that, she didn't make the veil as planned, and the motifs were going to be used on another project.I don't know if that happened. Jenny, maybe someone knows of such a book, and there might be a magazine article or two on the subject. I'm thinking you are going to try this anyway ;) On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my background of a whole 3 years learning basic Torchon lace can you advise me on a book that would teach me to convert a line drawing to a piece of lace. Should I be looking at traditional Milanese or Honiton or should I just have a go and learn from my mistakes? -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [lace] Russian Lace Bobbins
oops meant to include the lace list in my reply. -- Forwarded message -- Hi Karen Do you mean bobbins for Russian tape lace, lace bobbins from Russia or lace bobbins painted with a Russian theme? The last is what came to mind when you mentioned A-M Keller, but if not, let us know, then we can help refine the search, as it were. On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please let me know where I can purchase Russian Lace Bobbins. I am waiting for a response back from Ann Margaret Keller to see whether see still makes them. -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace makers census
Neither do we in Canada have a national organisation. A national magazine in English is privately run. Canada is a huge country geographically but not heavily populated and especially not with lacemakers :p I believe there about the same number of French-Canadian lacemakers in the province of Quebec as there are in all of English Canada. Canada is the home of the longest living lace group, since 1919, the Denman District Lace Club has been meeting regularly, begun by an English woman who was visiting the area on Vancouver Island. At one time the group was quite large. I think there are about 20 active lacemakers in that group now (perhaps one of them if she is reading this will confirm). My conservative guess is 500 lacemakers, call it 1000 for Miriam's census ;) On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Jeanette Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In South Africa there is probably no more than 500 lacemakers and that is aiming very high! So I find it difficult to believe Canada has only 500. We do not even have a national organisation. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape,South Africa. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lacemakers helper - table mate
Hi everyone, highlight to those in Canada I have a lacemaker's table, put away - I prefer the TableMate II and the knockoff I bought at Field's for half the price. There is one in each room where I like to make lace :) One of them plus my pillow can be carried in my Ikea tote bag to a lace meeting, and I can adjust the table to suit whatever chair is available. The bag itself is a great helper, too - it is a sturdy, plain reinforced woven plastic bag meant to store car tires - inexpensive, model name Dimpa. Canadian Tire has a 'Tilt-a-Table' for $16.99 in their latest flyer, which looks a lot like the Table Mate. On until the 28th if anyone wants to investigate. -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemakers helper - another budget pillow tote
Hi again Speaking of pillow storage - yes about the wreath boxes, they were advertised at Canadian Tire, too, just around Christmas then I missed the sale - I like fabric totes with handles too, to hang on a sturdy coat-hanger in a closet. The plastic wreath box, ideal for a complicated work in progress that needs to be put away and kept flat. Fields sells their store shopping bag for 99 cents. It opens wide and is roomy for 18-inch cookie pillows, a real bargain if one doesn't mind that the only colour choice is black and the store name in bold red (I look at it and think somehow it could be tweeked to read 'Laces' ). The handles are a generous length. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 5:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, yes, and a number of US lacemakers took an interest in the plastic Christmas wreath storage boxes sold at JoAnne's. They were a good size for cookie pillows. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace makers census
Hi Miriam and everyone I think you can safely say 'thousands' of lacemakers throughout the world - not 'tens' of thousands, but 'thousands' should cover it. There are about 500 in Canada, by my guesstimate, but let's say a thousand counting anyone who could possibly have tried bobbin lace. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Miriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi spiders, I'm giving a talk about lace next week. It is women's club (no males admitted). I'd like to know approximately how many lacemakers there are in the world. Like how many came up at the Lace magazine census? How many -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What do you do ....
I don't have any that I 'store' any more. I kept everything over ten years, but never went into the bulging files, drawers, boxes and binders. It was freedom to toss the lot. I found I don't reuse a pricking if I've put it away. I'd just as soon make another photocopy of the original, from my library. I work exclusively from a newly done photocopy glued to card and I work the pattern as I go, that is the pins do the pricking. If I'm going to reuse the pricking, it will be right away, sometimes as many times as the pattern can stand until it is in shreds. Like Kate, I will go ahead and prepare a design to work, for the meditative exercise: I won't prick the pattern, but I'll make a photocopy (scan and print with home computer that is), glue it to card, find a matte covering if it will need it, trim it and stare at it for a long time to appreciate the lacemaking, such as one might read sheet music and play the tune silently :) On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Jenny Brandis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you do with your prickings? I have been making lace since 1 April 2005 and have held on to all the prickings since then, including the ones I have prepared but not used. The pile is getting rather unwieldy now. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace makers census
Including the lacemakers in all the Americas and Spain, I stand corrected :D On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Carolina de la Guardia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly the number raises up to 10.000 lacemakers, all the country (Spain) (I have not evidence of this, this is only a supposition) bevw escribió: Hi Miriam and everyone I think you can safely say 'thousands' of lacemakers throughout the world - not 'tens' of thousands, but 'thousands' should cover it. There are about 500 in Canada, by my guesstimate, but let's say a thousand counting anyone who could possibly have tried bobbin lace. -- Bev (in Shirley near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mail List Archives
Is it your browser? I think Margot has a Mac - perhaps it is one software not talking to the other at this time. I went to the link that Lenore posted http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/ and tried a few searches, 'knot' 'wax' and 'thirsty' - lots of matches containing the former two, none for the latter (as I expected and hoped). On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Margot Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying for the last 2 days and I get 'No Match' for subjects that I know were discussed. On 21 Feb 2008, at 11:03, Lenore English wrote: I have been trying to use the search engine for the Arachne Mail List for several days, but it isn't working. I either get No Matches or a match that doesn't contain the search word at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Mail List Archives
All's well again :D On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Margot Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not my Mac, Bev. I just tried it again and the search function worked like a dream. Maybe it was just out of commission for a couple of days. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] separating embroidery thread
I use this method but only for the length of strand that I'm going to use - because I only do bobbin lace with embroidery floss, linen and/or cotton (never embroidery, I don't like it), I cut off a generous 2-armslength 6-ply strand, isolate one ply and gentle tug it from the mass, allowing the other 5 strands to bunch in a loose rosette, and yes, like Janice mentioned, within the closed hand. I stop from time to time to straighten the rosette or else I'll get knots. Repeat for the remaining strands. I learned the hard way that pulling two strands together almost always results in knots and a frayed temper (mine), so best when wanting two plies to recombine them afterwards. I store the separated strands in small ziplock bags if they aren't going onto bobbins right away. The DMC mouliné metallise skeins separate almost willingly into strands. I tie a small firm overhand knot at the ends of the strands asap, to prevent the single strand from coming apart. On Feb 19, 2008 11:55 AM, Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was taught to separate six stranded embroidery thread the following way: Unwind the skein along the floor, or down a staircase, or in my case, hang it over the second floor balcony in my family room. Hold one end of the skein loosely in the palm of your hand with the ends between your thumb and first finger. Take one single thread end and pull on it. You can wind this onto a card. The other threads tend to bunch up under your closed hand and occasionally you will need to straighten it out. Once you have done one thread you can continue to do as many as you need for your purposes. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Holding short threads
Thank you for the research in the field. Adapters as shown here? http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062221cp On Feb 19, 2008 1:10 PM, Clive Betty Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentle Spiders, I have just returned from Radio Shack. The name of the small clips we have discussed to hold short ends of thread is: (Drum roll, Please) Mini Test Clip Adapters For testing miniature components. Fits over standard test clips. Item no. 270-334B Pkg. of 2 $3.49 -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lacemakers Helpers - foam layer
Hi everyone and Jenny Now this is an excellent idea, for those working long edgings on a cookie pillow - what a savings in 'moving-up' time! If all my pillows have projects on them and I need another to make a quick sample, I put a couple of layers of craft foam on a thick towel and pin foam, towel and all, over a cookie pillow with work in progress, with the pins of the lace in progress pushed in. I have made cookie pillows from foam bedroll for camping, with a round of plywood for the base, cut decreasing circles of the foam, starting with the largest that would be about an inch over the perimeter of the plywood (to allow for the eventual dome shape). Pile them smallest to largest, and take a square of sturdy cotton fabric for the pillow cover, staple it firmly to the plywood on the bottom. Adjust and embellish as desired :) On Feb 18, 2008 8:05 AM, Jenny De Angelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something else that the lacemakers here use. Is that they put a piece of plastic foam, the type that is used from camping mattresses under a sleeping bag on the ground, cut into suitable sizes and placed under the pricking on the pillow to facilitate moving the pattern up the pillow without the need to remove pins. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lacemaking helpers
What will we call this handy device? Clay's Diagram-Dock maybe ;) over!! The holder even protects the diagrams when I pack up to go to class or to a guild meeting. I love this thing!! To see this, go to... http://tinyurl.com/2vocwm I use 4-page transparent folders with a turn-out sleeve on each 'page' so that groups of papers can be kept together according to whatever project I'm working on. Then I have the reference material - diagrams, my notes, samples of the thread or the lace itself contained, and more accessible for me than if in a single stack. I have a staple-less 'stapler' which is a dandy toy for clipping papers together - it is of no help particularly with lacemaking but it is clever, and I prefer the neat small hole it makes, to the metal staples. -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
