[lace] re: Postcard of a Lace Maker's Cottage at Palgrave, Norfolk
A good few years ago I communicated with Diana Smith about a postcard of a lace makerâs cottage in Palgrave, Norfolk. Diana if you read this please would you contact me direct. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Honiton Lace research query
Hi Brian Honiton lace comprised of motifs that were either connected together by âbridesâ or mounted onto a net ground for making up into the finished article, so perhaps the term lace sewer is referring to the women whose job this was? The term lace worker may have been used interchangeably for either the lace maker or the lace sewer? During my own research of villages within a 10 mile radius and across the range of the different census years I found that the terms lace maker, lace weaver and lace worker were used, but that which one depended very much upon the individual enumerator. I found that each was consistent in their use of term throughout their recording. I also found that a woman described as a lace worker in one census might well be described by one of the alternatives in a subsequent census again depending on who the enumerator was. There is usually a page for each district that states who the enumerator was, some enumerators covered more than one district and some did the job for more than one census year. Nicky H-T in Suffolk UK > > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:01:24 +1000 > From: > Subject: [lace] census records and definitions > > May of you will know that we have nothing more than two names that were > recorded by Gertude Whiting as being maker of Honiton lace bobbins. They > are Mr Miller and Mr Goode. They appear both to be Beer residents, though > it is possible that Mr Millers mother married again (??) I am guessing the > Gertrude Whiting visited in the 1920s. > > I have read most of the books about Devon lace/ families etc, but not a > mention of bobbin decorators. Am I fated to never know who made them and > who decorated them? (leave aside seamen, perhaps shepherds or possibly > children (Naé£e bobbins) > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bobbin Lace and Native Americans
Hello Brian & Carol Interesting question and reply, clearly there is evidence of Native Americans making lace, but perhaps more relevantly, would the Native Americans have been using what are quite clearly English East Midlands bobbins? One of which looks to have been made by one of the Compton's. By the way, I do think the asking price of £242 is utterly ridiculous. Nicky in Suffolk Uk Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 01:31:35 -0700 From: Carol <ca...@azsnaps.com <mailto:ca...@azsnaps.com>> Subject: [lace] Bobbin lace and Native Americans Hello Brian, Sorry, you will have to eat your words. Sybil Carter, an Episcopal missionary, is the name of the woman who began teaching bobbin lace to women of the Ojibwe tribe in Minnesota. The women were taught how to make other laces as well. According to what I've read they made a very high quality lace. Minnesota is considered a Great Plains state. There was an Indian School in Phoenix AZ and according to a display at the Heard Museum in Phoenix they did teach bobbin lace to the girls at this school so bobbin lace was not confined to the Great Plains. Some of the tribes in the Arizona area would have been the Hopi, Papago, Tohono O'odham, Apache, and Chiricahua. According to some Indian Affairs reports in 1901, in New York (state) there were Native American women making bobbin lace. Best regards, Carol Melton West of Phoenix, AZ USA http://tinyurl.com/jvaccul <http://tinyurl.com/jvaccul> http://www.mnopedia.org/group/sybil-carter-indian-lace-association <http://www.mnopedia.org/group/sybil-carter-indian-lace-association> - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] New Year Greetings
Have not been able to participate this past year, but have enjoyed reading the postings. David sorry to hear that youâre poorly, keep positive and my very best wishes to you for a speedy recovery. Wishing everyone on Arachne a very Happy New Year too. Nicky To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Great Tapestry of Scotland
Just to add to Jeris posting about the Great Tapestry of Scotland, it is beautifully illustrated with a wealth of information about the story behind each panel, planning on seeing it when its at the Scottish parliament later this year. But there is also a wonderful book about the Tapestry of Prestonpans [which lies a few miles from Edinburgh] it too is also beautifully illustrated and tells the story of Bonnie Prince Charlies journey from France to victory at Prestonpans in 1745. It was also designed by Andrew Crummy who designed the GTofS tapestry. There is a very informative web site about itwww.prestonpanstapestry.org and fingers crossed we will get to see this one also. And for final tapestry overload I believe that the Scottish Diaspora Tapestry is also nearing completion and panels will be on display in Edinburgh at St Marys Episcopal Cathedral in August. Its another community project based on the dispersal of Scotlands people around the world, more information atwww.scottishdiasporatapestry.org, believe Andrew Crummy is involved with this project too. Trusting the message goes as Im using a new system so a sharp learning curve - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Richard Ives his bobbins
Sadly Richard Ives stopped making lace bobbins a few years ago now, he gave the last few of his remaining stock to me a couple of years ago when he and Jenny had a tidy up at home. He was the first bobbin maker that I got to know when I first took up lacemaking in the 80's and I have always loved his bobbins, so beautifully slim, elegant and a fabulous finish to them. Richard was also President of Suffolk Lacemakers for many years - Suffolk Lacemakers are celebrating their 30th Anniversary this year. Nicky in Suffolk From: The Lacebee thelace...@btinternet.com Subject: [lace] Richard Ives Bobbin Maker Does anyone know if Richard Ives is still making bobbins and if so what his current contact details are? I tried the email address I had from 2004 and it bounced. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] teaching children
Hi all, Just been catching up on the thread of recent digests and came across Joke Lyn's messages regarding teaching children. Lyn wrote: I apologize, but your posting struck me the wrong way. I'm sitting here with tears of laughter running down my face, thinking, Rats, my extensive criminal convictions will not let me teach lace to children... I know it's serious, and probably expensive, but really, lacemakers going to schools to prey on young children? The thought is such an absurdity. I suppose there could be a predator out there, lurking amongst us Lacemakers Joke wrote: It would be lovely if children could have an afternoon to get to know lacemaking.. For 12-14 years I voluntarily ran a lace club in the lunch hour at what was then the local middle school [children aged 9-13] where I taught both girls and boys to make lace. Living in a relatively rural area it had to be during lunch because after school clubs were difficult for the majority of children who had to be bussed to and from school each day. The class was always full [14 max] with a lengthy waiting list of youngsters wanting to have a go at making lace, often inspired by the annual exhibition the group put on to coincide with parents days. Some lasted for a few weeks before deciding it wasn't for them others stayed on until they changed school, one is now my groups membership sec. All went well until the school had a new headmaster who thought it a waste of time and spent a year making life very difficult... so that class moved to my home along with the class I'd already set up for the older children going to high school. But gradually numbers dwindled and life was made even more difficult because of all the scandals of child abuse that were coming to the fore and CRB checking was introduced and became compulsory . this was when I bowed out of teaching children, not because I wouldn't pass through the CRB checks I hasten to add, but because the cost of it was prohibitive. And yes Lyn I do see the funny side of what you wrote. Another problem that we now face in my area at least, is the lack of lacemakers who are able and willing to teach. Over the past couple of years when I've been out giving a talk/exhibiting within the county I've been asked where folk can go to learn, but classes are non-existent in many parts of the county, so cutting a long story short this has resulted in a new class of adult beginners [not all retired] and a bit of a trek for me, so far it's going well, though I do have to watch out for herds of deer suddenly leaping out from the hedgerows across the road when I drive back home in the dark, it's happened each week so far. Clearly this particular narrow lane crosses their regular route, but it's the only way home for me, but I have to say that one particular stag is quite an impressive animal and I do so enjoy seeing them, fingers crossed they won't one day actually land on my car. Never imagined that lacemaking could be so fraught with danger!!! Nicky in a gloriously sunny Suffolk so wonderful to see some sunshine at long long last. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Intellectual Property etc
Hello All I've been catching up reading the numerous comments regarding publishing and the trials of getting a book into print, both Catherine Barley and Alex Stillwell have said much that I agree with. One of the reasons I self-published was to avoid many of the pitfalls of going with a publisher and possibly finding myself tied into something that I didn't want to be at a later date - yes I know you need to read the small print but when you've not been there before the small print doesn't necessarily mean what you may think it does. I certainly didn't write my book for the money - but because I felt it was important that at least some record be made about my county's little known lacemaking past before what was left vanished into total obscurity. When I embarked on the project I never expected it to take nine years of my life, working full time on it and the rest. It was extremely daunting, never dreamt I'd ever do anything like it, but on the whole I enjoyed pretty much every minute of it, with a few exceptions, but I couldn't have done it in the time but for the unfailing support of my DH. The major issue with self-publishing is the financial implication of it all and it is a big risk to take on so when a 'book seller' approached me about stocking my book to do me a big favour and then in the next breath said they expected a 70% discount on the purchase price for doing so you may just be able to imagine my response - the shop closed last year - so I got the last laugh after all! One thing that has irked me in recent months has been the number of 'sellers' who purport to stock my book and then state on their site that my book is 'out of print' which it isn't nor is it yet out of stock, though the pile has greatly diminished - I can only assume that some of these sellers claim this simply because they don't actually have any copies in stock themselves. Oh and I'm not referring to the lace suppliers who do stock it, they have been brilliant in their support. Like Catherine, I'm also pretty disgusted by those who are selling the books at highly inflated prices. A second hand dealer living just a few miles from me had my book listed on his web site at an inflated price, he justified it because to his knowledge it was 'out of print' and therefore it could command a higher price. I told him that it wasn't out of print, but readily available, his response was that he only had my word for it!!! Nicky H-T in Suffolk UK where it is once again rather dull and overcast - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] lurkers and posting
Well said Jane, Lyn, Jeri et al, we come from an incredibly wide and varied background and all have very different personalities and temperaments and this shines through in the various responses that this topic has elicited. There are all kinds of reasons why some lurk more than others, I tend to be a lurker, not because I don't wish to contribute but more because I get the digest versions which often means that answers to queries have been sent before I have even received the posting with the original question, so invariably what I might say has already been written several times over. Over the years I've been with Arachne I've had many questions and queries answered by so many of you knowledgeable folk out there, for which I have been extremely grateful and I have greatly enjoyed participating in some of the exchanges that have been organised by various members and I'm so very glad that they have been willing to take the time to organise them. It's always great to hear from those who contribute less frequently, but thank you to all those who are regular contributors, you are not taken for granted long may Arachne continue, a commemorative bobbin would be lovely, I recall purchasing a bobbin some years ago and my arachne cover cloth is in regular use. Thank you Jane re: proxy voting - all done. Jeri I do so hope you get your apprentice, we so need to encourage the next generation to fall in love with lacemaking and its history. Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace and Postage Stamps
Happy New year to you all. I only get the digests which have on the whole been pretty quiet, so thought it time I made a contribution anyway. I know that a few of you, like myself collect lace themed stamps so... Having been alerted, by a friend, to the fact that the February 2013 issue of 'Stamp' magazine might be of interest to me, I acquired a copy yesterday from 'off the shelf' at a well-known UK High Street newsagents in Norwich. Stamp Magazine has a regualr My Collection category in which readers basically submit an article about their personal collection of stamps, why they collect what they do etc etc. The My Collection article for this month's issue features the stamp collection of Margareta von Bahr from Sweden - her theme is LACE. The article covers four pages and features quite a few of the beautiful lace stamps that have been issued over the years, along with a few other interesting artifacts - Margareta explains that her theme of stamps deals with the history of bobbin-lacemaking, which has been of interest to her since a child, when she watched the bobbin's dancing on my aunt's lace-pillow, and was sometimes allowed to have a go herself. She returned to the hobby after retiring and also began collecting stamps in 2007 after attending one or two philatelic exhibitions. It's an interesting article and full marks to her for highlighting this niche thematics topic to a wider audience - the magazine has a pretty extensive readership. Happy lacemaking collecting Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Lace and Postage Stamps
Happy New year to you all. I only get the digests which have on the whole been pretty quiet, so thought it time I made a contribution anyway. I know that a few of you, like myself collect lace themed stamps so... Having been alerted, by a friend, to the fact that the February 2013 issue of 'Stamp' magazine might be of interest to me, I acquired a copy yesterday from 'off the shelf' at a well-known UK High Street newsagents in Norwich. Stamp Magazine has a regualr My Collection category in which readers basically submit an article about their personal collection of stamps, why they collect what they do etc etc. The My Collection article for this month's issue features the stamp collection of Margareta von Bahr from Sweden - her theme is LACE. The article covers four pages and features quite a few of the beautiful lace stamps that have been issued over the years, along with a few other interesting artifacts - Margareta explains that her theme of stamps deals with the history of bobbin-lacemaking, which has been of interest to her since a child, when she watched the bobbin's dancing on my aunt's lace-pillow, and was sometimes allowed to have a go herself. She returned to the hobby after retiring and also began collecting stamps in 2007 after attending one or two philatelic exhibitions. It's an interesting article and full marks to her for highlighting this niche thematics topic to a wider audience - the magazine has a pretty extensive readership. Happy lacemaking collecting Nicky in Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Christmas Card Exchange
Hello Today I received a delightful card from my exchange partner Marji Sakievich, a lovely lace angel watching over a nativitiy scene - and next year the angel which will be adorning my Christmas Tree, along with my other past exchange decorations - they are all much treasured and look so very pretty on the tree. I'm hoping that Marji either has or will shortly receive my own card. May I wish you all a very happy and peaceful Christmas/Festive season and may you all continue to enjoy your lacemaking in 2013 Greetings to you all Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Christmas Card Exchange
Hello Today I received a delightful card from my exchange partner Marji Sakievich, a lovely lace angel watching over a nativitiy scene - and next year the angel which will be adorning my Christmas Tree, along with my other past exchange decorations - they are all much treasured and look so very pretty on the tree. I'm hoping that Marji either has or will shortly receive my own card. May I wish you all a very happy and peaceful Christmas/Festive season and may you all continue to enjoy your lacemaking in 2013 Greetings to you all Nicky in Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Christmas Card exchange
Hello all I'm having to try and re-send this message because I don't think it got through the first time, but at least I'm finally receiving both Arachne digests again. --- This morning I received a lovely Christmas card from my exchange pal Joepie Hammett in Sussex - thank you Joepie it is absolutely delightful and what a lovely thought to include the coaster for mounting it in - after Christmas it will be in my den so I can admire it everyday - it is a beautiful little owl that Joepie has designed, he has just so much character he really is wonderful thank you very much. Thank you also to both Amber and Avital for getting me back on to Arachne after weeks of absence even from lurkdom - having had a major computer breakdown, a new computer and new to us windows 7 operating system [all courtesy of my husband's son for husbands significant birthday]. But it has been a bit of a nightmare, firstly getting to grips with the new system (still can't find 'undo' button), and secondly finding that all the files from the old computer had been transferred but it was just as if the filing cabinet had been emptied and everything stuffed back in anywhere!!! So a lot of re-organising. Then to upset the apple cart we changed our ISP provider so for those who may wish to know I have a new e.mail address bob.b...@btinternet.com which leads to another question - does anyone know how I go about boosting the signal for wifi usage elsewhere in the house - before the change of ISP provider we had good wifi coverage and I could use my lap top anywhere in the house - since the change we can't use the tablet, kindle or laptop unless in the same room as the BT hub yet they are connected for wifi usage, the signal is just too low. Any suggestions. Many thanks Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Christmas Card exchange
Hello all I'm having to try and re-send this message because I don't think it got through the first time, but at least I'm finally receiving both Arachne digests again. --- This morning I received a lovely Christmas card from my exchange pal Joepie Hammett in Sussex - thank you Joepie it is absolutely delightful and what a lovely thought to include the coaster for mounting it in - after Christmas it will be in my den so I can admire it everyday - it is a beautiful little owl that Joepie has designed, he has just so much character he really is wonderful thank you very much. Thank you also to both Amber and Avital for getting me back on to Arachne after weeks of absence even from lurkdom - having had a major computer breakdown, a new computer and new to us windows 7 operating system [all courtesy of my husband's son for husbands significant birthday]. But it has been a bit of a nightmare, firstly getting to grips with the new system (still can't find 'undo' button), and secondly finding that all the files from the old computer had been transferred but it was just as if the filing cabinet had been emptied and everything stuffed back in anywhere!!! So a lot of re-organising. Then to upset the apple cart we changed our ISP provider so for those who may wish to know I have a new e.mail address bob.b...@btinternet.com which leads to another question - does anyone know how I go about boosting the signal for wifi usage elsewhere in the house - before the change of ISP provider we had good wifi coverage and I could use my lap top anywhere in the house - since the change we can't use the tablet, kindle or laptop unless in the same room as the BT hub yet they are connected for wifi usage, the signal is just too low. Any suggestions. Many thanks Nicky in Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] unsubscribing shortly
Hi Spiders I've not really been able to keep up with all that has been going on for sometime now, and just hadn't had time to unsubscribe so have just had to shelve masses of messages, life has been very stressful of late. But I just wanted to share some fabulous news before I unsubscribe before we go away on holiday to Scotland. My lovely daughter-in-law of just one year has an identical twin sister, who was in the most horrendous road accident a few months ago - she is now out of a coma, conscious and now on the road to recovery, she has been able to say a few words this past day or two with the aid of a voice box and although she has a very long way to go the future is looking so much brighter and we understand that she will be transferred from Addenbrooks to the more local Norfolk Norwich Hospital in the next few weeks, where she will probably remain for many months yet. As you can imagine it has been a dreadful time for all the family especially those closest to her. best wishes to all for a great summer, Nicky in Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] finishing a garter
Hi Jenny Both my husband and I have now made several wedding garters. The method I use for finishing them off is this. I use shirring elastic and run ribbon only through the middle section. The shirring elastic is carefully sewn along both edges of lace next to the middle, once stitched I then carefully pull up the shirring elastic so that the garter is gathered and then knot the ends of shirring elastic and cut off the excess (which I use for other things such as bobble ties for holding two bobbins together). I make sure that there is enough play for the bride to slip the garter on comfortably and if necessary the shirring elastic can always be tightened a little more on the day (I show her how to do it). The ribbon is purely for decoration. Reports back from the various brides (one of which was me) is that the garter has been comfortable to wear as the shirring elastic is much finer than ordinary knicker elastic and it doesn't leave a mark. The garters have stayed up and felt quite secure for the entire day. Disadvantage, it takes a bit more time and effort to oversew the shirring elastic into place, but the effort is worth it and the garter looks good too, no bulky elastic to hide. A picture of one of our garters (and horseshoe) was in a fairly recent edition of The Lacemaker newsletter of the Lace Cirle, the one giving a write up about their 2005 AGM held in Norfolk. Hope that this is of help to you. best wishes Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
