RE: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making as per Oxford Dictionary
Whenever I'm not sure if a word exists, I check the Oxford Dictionary of Spelling. There it is - quite clearly - lacemaker, lacemaking. Other 'lace' entries are; Lace, laces, laced, lacing, lace-glass, lace-glasses, lace-pillow, lace-up, lacewing, lacewood, lacework, lacey (use lacy) There's no sign of lacer, although American spellings are included if different to English spelling. Now, what are lace-glasses? Liz Pass In Poole,Dorset with another fine day in view. PS The spell checker queried some of the 'lace' words! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
For our website, I put both lace making and lacemaking as search terms. On ebay I use both too, as for us it widens the web. As a linguist, I think it should be lace making, just like cake baking or basket weaving. Agnes Boddington - chilly Elloughton UK Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: I always use the one word - Lacemaking. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
Thank you Robin. It does make sense. I first encountered this problem when I read the Antique Laces of the American Collectors. Then I devised my slide show which I called The Laces of the Robber Barons. But the more I said the title, the worse it sounded. Now I refer to it as The Lace of the Robber Barons, on the theory that E.B.White, author of the classic American style book, said, that if it doesn't sound right, don't say it. What would you say the correct title of my slide show should be? Devon In a message dated 3/19/2009 1:43:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robinl...@socal.rr.com writes: dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Another English language style issue which needs resolution in an official lace style manual is whether the plural of lace is lace or laces. Lace can be like fish (the words, not the objects!). Several of the same species are fish. Several different species are fishes. When talking about the laces of several regions, it's pluralized. When talking about the category of textiles, we say lace is made in many lands. Note that the verb is singlular (is, not are), so lace is singlular. I would say I have five pieces of lace, but again this is using lace as a category, not a bunch of objects. It's late, I'm tired, and I suspect this doesn't make much sense, but I've tried Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com **Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212974460%3B34272906%3Bh) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
I have no problem with The Laces of the Robber Barons, as you are speaking of many pieces types of lace and several collectors/people who collected them. To me the singular 'Lace of the Robber Barons' doesn't sound 'quite' correct. Just my 2 cents worth. But seeing the program was worth much more than that!!! Lorri Thank you Robin. It does make sense. I first encountered this problem when I read the Antique Laces of the American Collectors. Then I devised my slide show which I called The Laces of the Robber Barons. But the more I said the title, the worse it sounded. Now I refer to it as The Lace of the Robber Barons, on the theory that E.B.White, author of the classic American style book, said, that if it doesn't sound right, don't say it. What would you say the correct title of my slide show should be? Devon arachnemodera...@yahoo.commailto:arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
Devon, in my opinion this title The Laces of the Robber Barons. sounds ok. I am sure you speak from more then one piece so it is clearer to say laces. Only my idea Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
I prefer one word - lacemaking. That's how I usually write it. No one questions 'shoemaker' and it's usually written as one word, why not lacemaker Go with whatever you like. We all know what you mean and we're the ones who will be using your book. Alice in Oregon -- where I'll be giving a talk on my OIDFA trip today to a group of ladies On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com wrote: I have just received the proofs for Edition 5, and the graphics people have queried Lacemaking in the title and suggest Lace making. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
Ditto for me. Lacemaker...not lace maker. Cearbhael I prefer one word - lacemaking. That's how I usually write it. No one questions 'shoemaker' and it's usually written as one word, why not lacemaker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
This may be the UK/US divide, or it may just be my personal opinion G: I think the plural of fish is fish, however many different species you may have. And similarly with sheep: lots of them are still sheep. And lace too: however many pieces of however many styles you have, the word is still just lace. The word laces makes me think of shoes; and Laces of the Robber Barons, to me, implies the strings which hold the fronts of their jackets together G. Very Errol Flynn! Also I'm a lacemaker, and what I do is lacemaking. As I say, this may not be correct, but it's how my mind works here in the UK, with a Scottish upbringing ... Margery. margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Thursday 19 March 2009 14:03 To: robinl...@socal.rr.com; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed Thank you Robin. It does make sense. I first encountered this problem when I read the Antique Laces of the American Collectors. Then I devised my slide show which I called The Laces of the Robber Barons. But the more I said the title, the worse it sounded. Now I refer to it as The Lace of the Robber Barons, on the theory that E.B.White, author of the classic American style book, said, that if it doesn't sound right, don't say it. What would you say the correct title of my slide show should be? Devon In a message dated 3/19/2009 1:43:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robinl...@socal.rr.com writes: dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Another English language style issue which needs resolution in an official lace style manual is whether the plural of lace is lace or laces. Lace can be like fish (the words, not the objects!). Several of the same species are fish. Several different species are fishes. When talking about the laces of several regions, it's pluralized. When talking about the category of textiles, we say lace is made in many lands. Note that the verb is singlular (is, not are), so lace is singlular. I would say I have five pieces of lace, but again this is using lace as a category, not a bunch of objects. It's late, I'm tired, and I suspect this doesn't make much sense, but I've tried Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
I prefer Lacemaking as one word. When ever you are asked what you are doing, the reply is usually lacemaking is`nt it??? Daphne Norfolk England From: j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:41:58 + I prefer lacemaker rather than two separate words. I googled both lacemaker and lace maker. Lacemaker - no problem. Lace maker I got Did you mean to search for: lacemaker Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place Learn more! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
The IOLI has encountered this style question as well and has gone with lacemaker and lacemaking. Another English language style issue which needs resolution in an official lace style manual is whether the plural of lace is lace or laces. Also, at issue, is the word reticello or reticella. I could go on and on. I figure that since we write about it all the time, we are the ones to set the style, not other entities. Devon In a message dated 3/18/2009 4:45:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk writes: I prefer lacemaker rather than two separate words. I googled both lacemaker and lace maker. Lacemaker - no problem. Lace maker I got Did you mean to search for: lacemaker Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com **Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
You know, I have yet to encounter the computer program or internet provider which recognizes the word internet as a word. I don't think we can take their opinion on lace related material too seriously until they repair this flaw. Devon In a message dated 3/18/2009 5:01:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thelacema...@optusnet.com.au writes: I always type it as one word, Brenda - and always become irritated when spellcheck objects! The same with lacemaker! I wonder if this is another of those English/American differences? I note that our American friends often refer to I've been lacing today, whereas I say I've been lacemaking Ruth (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Paternoster Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 7:17 AM To: Arachne Arachne Subject: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making I have just received the proofs for Edition 5, and the graphics people have queried Lacemaking in the title and suggest Lace making. I know this is one of those personal preference situations, but what does anyone else prefer? My own choice is one word - and that is Lace Guild choice too. 'Mail' and 'Pages' (both Mac software) underline lacemaking as a spelling error, also lacemaker. 'Word', on the other hand accepts lacemaking but queries lacemaker! Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com **Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making
It is more than personal preference, it is the trade name vbg I have set my dictionary of spellcheck to recognize 'lacemaker' and 'lacemaking' as correct. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com wrote: I have just received the proofs for Edition 5, and the graphics people have queried Lacemaking in the title and suggest Lace making. Our resident lace bard (note, two words g) wrote: Brenda, thank you for your effort In compiling this great book I'd be a wealthy woman At a penny every look! Totally! -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lacemaking or Lace making-style manual needed
dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Another English language style issue which needs resolution in an official lace style manual is whether the plural of lace is lace or laces. Lace can be like fish (the words, not the objects!). Several of the same species are fish. Several different species are fishes. When talking about the laces of several regions, it's pluralized. When talking about the category of textiles, we say lace is made in many lands. Note that the verb is singlular (is, not are), so lace is singlular. I would say I have five pieces of lace, but again this is using lace as a category, not a bunch of objects. It's late, I'm tired, and I suspect this doesn't make much sense, but I've tried Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
