[lace-chat] Texas Gentleman

2003-12-02 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Certainly no offense to the Queen; I am a Royalist of the first order...
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA, formerly of Chesham, Bucks, UK


They rode toward Buckingham Palace, each looking sideways and waving to
the thousands of cheering Britons.  So far everything is going well.
Suddenly the right rear horse lets fly with the most horrendous, earth
shaking, eye stinging, acrid blast of flatulence ever heard in the
British Empire and so powerful, that it shakes the coach.

Uncomfortable, but under control, the two Dignitaries of State do their
best to ignore the incident.  But, embarrassed, the Queen decides it's
impossible to ignore it. Mr. President, please accept my regrets.  I'm
sure you understand that there are some things not even a Queen can
control.

Ever the Texas gentleman, the President replies, Your Majesty, please
don't give the matter another thought.  You know, if you hadn't said
something, I would have thought it was one of the horses.

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[lace-chat] RE: mobile phone laws

2003-12-02 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday all,

In Australia it is definitely illegal to use a mobile in the car unless
you have a hands free installation, and it is enforced.   A friend

In South Africa - same law, but as someone else pointed out it is the
enforcement, and here that is not done (through lack of Police resources
mainly), so people just do what they like.  The road death toll here in one
week is the same as Australia's for a whole year apparently, and if you
drove around where I live you'd see why.  Of course some people observe the
rules, but in my experience there is generally not a lot of use of seat
belts (and cramming up to 12 people in one van or shoved in the back of a
utility), using mobile phones, speeding, a lot of unroadworthy vehicles,
very dangerous overtaking on roads in poor condition with a lot of locals
walking along the edges.  The drink-driving alcohol limit is 0.05, same as
in Australia, but when we at a restaurant or party say oh its my turn to
drive so I'll only have light beer/soft drink thanks, we are laughed at,
because no one ever expects to get caught. In Australia we DO get caught, so
we don't dare do anything wrong.  They are very strict about everything
there and it pays off because a lot less people are killed on the roads than
say 20 years ago.

As for totally stopping at a Stop sign, if you DO the person behind you bips
his horn at you!

Michelle
an Aussie living in Richards Bay, South Africa

Ian  Chelle Long
+27 35 788 0777

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Re: [lace-chat] Meeting up at the NEC

2003-12-02 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 12/2/2003 3:33:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Might go to Havant again as that's only a bit over an hour 
 away and mostly
 the same suppliers as NEC are there.

Then let's meet up at Havant - infact, when ever we have a big fair lets offer to meet 
if we are able to go.

Liz

Regards

Liz Beecher
I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see 
what it's all about

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Re: [lace-chat] Using mobile phones in the car

2003-12-02 Thread David Collyer
Dear Jean,
I have been listening to our local radio station, the
discussion is about the new law where from 1st December
we are not in the UK allowed to use our mobile phones
unless we have a hands free, the question was asked,
what about other countries around the world.  what
laws do they have about using a mobile phone.
That law has been strictly applied here in Victoria, Australia for some 
time now. Many continue to disobey it but cop a stiff penalty when caught.
David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] lace booklet on ebay

2003-12-02 Thread Barron
there is an interesting booklet published by the V  A on ebay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3569731168category=125
70

might be of interest

jenny barron

Elgin, Scotland

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread H. Muth
Hello all,

I never had a pair of red shoes.  I did have a pair with very high cork 
platforms which had white sandal straps on them.  (I'm trying very hard to 
remember.)  And I also had a pair of very high black boots which my parents 
hated.  My daughter is working on her own style (she's 13) but I don't 
think there'll be any such shoes in her fashion future.

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
Almost finished this semester's classes.  Just 2 major essays to go.
At 11:55 AM 02/12/2003 +, Lynne Cumming wrote:
My 16 year old daughter received her 'first' pay packet last week (has done
a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent
most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3 stiletto jobs in bright
red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles
tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says,  I
had a pair of red shoes. Now my query is this, how many are there of
you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at 14
(plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike to
school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in
the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too
small!
I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera  - cheap from
Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
I wish I had legs like hers tho.
Lynne.

Lynne Cumming
Baldock, North Herts, UK
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[lace-chat] red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Janice Blair
I was sitting here thinking No, I never had red shoes then it came to me that when I 
was about 14 I persuaded my mother to buy me some flat red shoes even though I knew we 
were probably strapped for cash at most times.  What became of them?  Well I visited a 
friend who had a duck pond and a kayak.  My friend talked me into going into the kayak 
to paddle around the pond.  In the middle she started rocking it and over we went.  I 
came out of the pond covered in black mud and other duck unmentionables and only one 
shoe. There was no way I would go back in to rescue the other shoe and I went home on 
the bus in her plimsoles which were about 3 sizes too big for me.  Don't think I ever 
got red shoes again. :(
Janice
Where I am off to lunch in a red hat and wearing purple for my Red Hat Society lunch.
Maybe I should get some red shoes.

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread cearbhael
I never owned a pair of red shoes until my mother bought me a pair of red
shoes when I was in my early 40's. She was the girl who liked color in her
shoes. My flashiest pair of footwear was a pair of knee high lace up purple
suede granny boots with 2 inch heels that I bought in 1965. My favorite
shoes were a pair of real (leather not vinyl) patent leather mary jane's
with a 2  1/2 inch chunky heel They were gorgeous and fit like a dream (and
made in Italy) I fell in love with them in a newspaper add (full page
spread) and my mother ordered them over the phone and they FIT. I got them
for Christmas. What a wonderful present that was. I wore them till they
literally disintergrated. That was a sad day sniff.

Cearbhael

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 Hello all,

 I never had a pair of red shoes.  I did have a pair with very high cork
 platforms which had white sandal straps on them.  (I'm trying very hard to
 remember.)  And I also had a pair of very high black boots which my
parents
 hated.  My daughter is working on her own style (she's 13) but I don't
 think there'll be any such shoes in her fashion future.

 Heather
 Abbotsford, BC
 Almost finished this semester's classes.  Just 2 major essays to go.


 At 11:55 AM 02/12/2003 +, Lynne Cumming wrote:
 My 16 year old daughter received her 'first' pay packet last week (has
done
 a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent
 most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3 stiletto jobs in
bright
 red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles
 tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says, 
I
 had a pair of red shoes. Now my query is this, how many are there of
 you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at
14
 (plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike
to
 school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in
 the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too
 small!
 I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera  - cheap
from
 Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
 I wish I had legs like hers tho.
 
 Lynne.
 
 Lynne Cumming
 Baldock, North Herts, UK
 
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Re: Fwd: [lace-chat] NEC pix

2003-12-02 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone

Thank you to Vivienne and Pat for posting the pix - one longs to have
been there and with a bottomless pocket book, spacious carry bag(s). I'd
have wanted to buy something from each stall! Then, go home and spend
the rest of the year using it all, non-stop lacing...I do hope it was
worthwhile for all the vendors and that there was less to pack home than
to carry in?

Vivienne's pix are at
http://www.bigginslace.co.uk/nec2003.htm
Pat's are at a link at
http://www.roseground.com/

bye for now
Bev in on a warm November day (when it should be cold) in Sooke BC (west
coast of Canada)

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re: [lace-chat] red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Alice Howell
Ahhh -- Red shoes!

You just had me on my knees checking the back corner of my
closet, looking to see if I still had that pair of red velvet flats.  I
had them for at least 40 years but, as my feet expanded with old
age, I could no longer wear them.  They were delightful to wear to
Christmas parties.  Sadno longer there!  I must have given them
to the theatre or something.  I think I remember that they had little
diamond jewels on them.
Alice in Oregon -- Where we have a brief pause between rains, and
I'm still coping with a new computer, email, etc etc.  Still haven't
found the place to set up my signature.  Sigh.  A new computer may
not have been my best decision lately. 

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[lace-chat] NEC

2003-12-02 Thread Jane Partridge
In a message dated 01/12/2003 21:41:38 GMT Standard Time, 
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 So where were Annette and Liz at 3 pm on Sunday 

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 because we thought 
they were annoucing the winners of the draw.

I think at 3pm they were announcing the draw - we all met up at 2pm,
Jean :-).

-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Ruth Budge
I've had a couple of pairs of red shoes in my life - I *like* red shoes!

But the winkle picker, 3 stiletto description reminded memy DH and self
were walking past ladies shoes in a shop late last week, and he commented on
the absurd pointy toes on display there.   And the ridiculous height of the
heels.  I gently pointed out that the toes were not as pointy, nor the heels as
high, as on the shoes I wore to our wedding 38 years ago!

What amuses me is that each time the fashions return, the generation wearing
them this time think they are the *height* of fashion and smartness, and that
they've invented something new!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
Lynne Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 16 year old daughter
received her 'first' pay packet last week (has done
a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent
most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3 stiletto jobs in bright
red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles
tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says,  I
had a pair of red shoes. Now my query is this, how many are there of
you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at 14
(plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike to
school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in
the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too
small!
I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera - cheap from
Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
I wish I had legs like hers tho.

Lynne.

Lynne Cumming
Baldock, North Herts, UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Pam and David
 I never had a pair of red shoes.  I did have a pair with very high cork
 platforms which had white sandal straps on them.

I had a pair like that!  They had two inch platform with six inch heels, and
I wore them on my first date with my husband, who is a foot taller than I
am.  I wore them until they crumbled, years ago.  I have in my closet right
now a pair of red cfm pumps with stiletto heels.  I only bought them about 3
years ago, but I'd been waiting 30 years to find the right pair that fit me.
When I did, they were mine!

Pam Dotson

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Re: [lace-chat] Using mobile phones in the car

2003-12-02 Thread Steph Peters
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:50:45 +1100 (EST), Ruth wrote:
Jean, here in Australia we must use a hands free when driving.   In practice,
many drivers do not use a hands free, but they face a hefty fine if caught. 
Many times I've wished I was a policewoman!!!

Now we're trying to face the problem of how to police text-messaging, after a
young girl, driving at speed and illegally holding her phone to write a text
message at the same time, hit and killed someone.Out here  you can go to
gaol for causing a death in a traffic accident, so at the age of 22, she was
facing a long time in gaol.  After pleas from the victim's family, she was not
sent to gaol - a very lucky young lady!

The UK law is more general - it covers text messages as well as phone calls,
also faxes, documents and use of the internet on anything hand held.  There
has been a similar case in England where a driver texting killed a cyclist,
but the UK driver was only given a disqualification.

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[lace-chat] Green with envy!

2003-12-02 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thank you for the pictures of the Fair.   I am positively Green with Envy!!!
:)
What a wonderful time you must have had, with all those suppliers,  -  and
goodies just waiting for a new home!
Thank you for showing the rest of us just a glimpse of it.  (says she -
weeping!!!)
You don't realize how lucky you are, to have access to such a day.

Thanks to Jean, who mentioned about right clicking on the red x when a
picture fails to materialize.  I did not know about that.  I will try it
next time.
The first time I went to the Biggins site, I missed out on a few pictures,
but have just gone there again, and they all downloaded.

I also managed to get the pattern from the Roseground site, the second time
I visited it.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,  Where the suburbs are mopping up after an
horrendus storm and flash floods last night.
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[lace-chat] Re: ethnic mysteries

2003-12-02 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Monday, Dec 1, 2003, at 18:53 US/Eastern, Sylvie Nguyen wrote:

Being that I enjoy reading both types of books that you mentioned, 
suggestions of ethnic mysteries would be wonderful.
Sigh... When I was a child, my father used to beat me if I forgot the 
title, the author and the detailed plot of any book I'd read, so I 
tried to remember. But...

a) at an early age, my memory was *much better* than it is now.
b) at 10, I had a shorter list of books read to remember than I do at 
54.
c) at 12, I was able to convince my father that any future beatings -- 
for whatever reason -- would be detrimental to *his* health, and he 
stopped. Whereupon I reverted to my preferential method of 
remembering -- a general impression (was I spell-bound and for how 
long, and why. Or why not).

So, now, it's all one big soup-pot, with an occasional chunk of 
something recognisable floating up to the surface g When I read 
something super, I report it here before I forget it, with the book at 
the keyboard to give all the details.  But 1 week later it joins the 
pot, where it keeps cooking till it's all one mush. After 2-3 
weeks, all my memory of books read is passive -- I can still 
*recognise* the name of the author (more readily if I enjoyed a 
previous one); sometimes the title will ring a bell (faintly). Reading 
a few pages at random helps; some names I almost-remember not because I 
enjoyed the book, but because it was awful, and badly written can be 
detected in such spot-checking.

Most of the books I read come from the library and go back there -- I 
don't buy all that many -- so I have nothing to help me jog the memory.

Bangkok 8 (Thailand, Buddhist world) was really an excellent mystery. 
Stuart Kaminsky's series on Porfiry Rostnikov (USSR, both before and 
after its decomposition) is very good -- though somewhat uneven. I 
read (last month, that's why it's still chunks and not soup g) as 
many of those as were in the library, and the only one I remember 
better (also as being better) is the Cold Red Sunrise (Or, 
possibly, Red Cold Sunrise. Or something like that g). There's a 
*wonderful* series of *historical* mysteries (Japan, 16th? c), written 
by a Korean-American with an Anglosaxon surname (starts with an R; 
could be Rawlins, maybe?). The only *title* in the series I remember is 
Black Moth -- somewhere in the middle of the series (I think). Though 
the series is uniformly good, the first two (three?) books have 
Japanese words for titles, and that was more than I could remember for 
5 minutes. There's one, I think, with concubine somewhere in the 
title :) If I come accross any of those books, I know immediately that 
they belong together and whether I've read that particular one or not, 
but I cannot dredge the details from my memory.

Actually, soup memory isn't all that bad; it allows me to read the 
same book more than once and still enjoy it :) I remember having read 
it but almost never who'd done it...

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] Re: Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Tuesday, Dec 2, 2003, at 06:55 US/Eastern, Lynne Cumming wrote:

Now my query is this, how many are there of
you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes?
Sorry, not me :)

My first pair of heels (modest 1.5 or so, and not tapered to a point) 
were beige; took a lot of begging (I was 14) to get them and they had 
to go with everything. The first (and only; I learnt quickly g) 
pair of pointy-toed, stilletto-heeled shoes, acquired (again, by 
whining) at 16, was white. But, that same year, I got (my first money) 
a pair of bright-red, flat-heel, round-nose, strap-through-the-instep 
(Mary Janes?) ones and adored them for years, until they could be fixed 
no longer.

Red and black felt (with black leather toes and heels) Cossac boots 
were next and those, too, were loved through several winters. Had a 
pair of red sandals my first year in the US -- sadly gone now.

And I have a pair of summer weight red moccasins -- the most 
comfortable shoes ever (almost like slippers), which I treasure and 
wear as little as possible because, once they go, I won't be able to 
either get them fixed or to replace them...

I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera  - 
cheap from
Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
Please?

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] red shoes and mysteries

2003-12-02 Thread Sylvie Nguyen
Tamara and gentle spiders,

Thank you for the suggestion of mystery books to read.
 Like you, I have trouble remembering titles and
authors not long after having read the books.  I have
even been known to have checked a book out of the
library, start reading it, then remember that I had
read it a few years previously.

After several people urged me to read The DaVinci
Code, I did and found it to be interesting.  On my
next trip to the library, I might look for another
book by the same author.

On the subject of red shoes, I have had a few pairs
through the years.  For the most part, I wear black
footwear, but there is something fun about having one
flashy pair of shoes.  Last year I parted with my
favorite dark red modestly heeled boots.  They were
replaced with dark red Naot clogs.  Still they aren't
quite as much fun as red shoes which I keep my eyes
open for.  

When my sister was married some years ago, I had to
wear a horrible red bridesmaid dress.  Though I was
asked to purchase matching red satin shoes, I was
rebellious and bought some lovely red leather pumps. 
Figured I should get some satisfaction from the
situation.

Sylvie
in cold Cherry Valley, Illinois, USA

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[lace-chat] Re: NEC pics

2003-12-02 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Thanks to everyone who's sent me the URLs for Biggins and Roseground. I 
did end up seeing the Biggins ones -- thanks, Vivienne -- but still no 
luck on the Roseground ones; I think it's another instance of the 
Mac/Win problem; when I click on early photos etc, nothing happens; 
the right-hand side of the website (yes, it's the new, updated one) 
reponds as it ought to, the left-hand side sez java script open 
BigWin (or something like that), but remains locked... Thanks, 
Margery, for converting the lot to a yahoo album -- could see those, 
though they weren't anywhere near as clear as the Biggins ones; a bit 
like a woollen sweater that's gone through a washing machine g

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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] Earthquake

2003-12-02 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I see, in today's newspaper, that there was an earthquake up around Cooma
during the night.
I do hope you are alright, Noelene, and that your wonderful Round House has
come to no harm.
It registered - according to the paper, 3 on the Richter scale, and sounded
like a train passing by.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-02 Thread Jeanette Fischer
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and which were described by a
male colleague as tart's shoes.

You will not catch me dead in a pair of red shoes.  As a medical student in
the 1960's there were very few women around so we were surrounded by men all
day.  If a woman with red shoes would go past, one of the men invariably
said There goes a woman without a pantie on!!!  That has stuck in my mind.

Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

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