Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
 Today I don't think Wednesday pressed as much at all and especially not our 
goalie when we had the ball. They were letting us play out. It really was that 
first goal we crumbled and they started playing like Barcelona.
Disagree a bit with Rich, Bannon has always looked a player to me.
Nick
On Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:20:16 AM EDT, Ed Morrish 
<edmorr...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 That's an over-reaction. 
It's hard to disagree with Pontus's remarks in the Guardian - we were 
out-muscled in midfield. Can't see how Vieira didn't get a chance ahead of 
Phillips - yes, Phillips started the season better than expected, but he wasn't 
the player to anchor a midfield away to a local rival. 
Also, teams seem to have caught on to the fact that we will always try to play 
the ball square for someone else to take it on, like we're a sodding rugby 
league team or something, so if they press us we're screwed. But I'm going to 
lay most of the blame on Weidwald, whose awful 'keeping allowed the first goal 
and then unnerved the defence. 
ed.
On 1 October 2017 at 14:15, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:

We were bloody awful.
I was wondering how many points do we need for safety 

Something has gone really wrong-- they are not playing fir each other. If we 
lose at home -- I'd guess we have a problem in the dressing room.

-Original Message-
From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 01 October 2017 16:06
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken. gn.apc.org>; 
Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is- broken.gn.apc.org>; leedslist@gn.apc.org; 
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Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is that 
a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
>
> We are rubbish again
> Another wasted year.
>
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>
> __ __
> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is- broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>
> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>    On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
>wrote:
>
> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave
> them a goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn. apc.org> wrote:
>
>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>> position
>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>>
>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken. gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is
>>>> turning
>> out
>>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address}
Clearly Christiansen needs to make some changes to the starting eleven. I'd say 
Lonergan in for Wiedwald and Vieira in for Phillips, O'Kane or Alioski are 
obvious ones. But I think he should also think about whether we should go 4-4-2 
with Roofe, Grot or Cibicki playing number 10 to Lasogga's number 9 up front. 
In that case we could have a central midfield pairing of O'Kane and Vieira with 
two from Saiz/Hernandez/Dallas/Alioski on the wings. Perhaps we could even go 
3-5-2, with Ayling, Jansson and Pennington or Cooper at the back, then a 
central midfield trio of Vieira, O'Lane and Phillips, plus two wingers and two 
of the above-mentioned forwards.


Another thought: we clearly lack height in central midfield. Shaughnessy is a 
converted midfielder who has an eye for a pass. Is it time to experiment with 
him playing alongside Vieira there?


Cheers!


Sean



-Original Message-
From: Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} 
<seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 9:35 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

Ha, mine's alcohol.Sent from my iPhone> On 1 Oct 2017, at 14:34, Michael 
Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:> > I am not pessimistic -- I am an exhausted 
optimist with a coping mechanism  > > -Original Message-> From: Simon 
McNally [mailto:simon_mcna...@sky.com] > Sent: 01 October 2017 16:33> To: 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>> Cc: 
Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 
Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} 
<seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 
0 (Hooper 25)> > Whilst I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to the doc's 
pessimism, that's another game where we have been truly awful. Sky had a stat 
up first half that basically says if we concede first we rarely win and nearly 
always lose. > I thought we looked better side at 0-0 but as soon as they 
scored we were done. I've tried to look for positives in Wiedwald's keeping but 
there aren't any. He doesn't claim crosses, his positioning is awful and he 
keeps punching instead of catching. I'd rather have Silvestri.> It's hard to be 
too harsh on Phillips and O'Kane after some excellent performances in the early 
games but the season lasts 46 games, not 6. Viera has to play and maybe Anita 
in central midfield too.> Roofe gets a lot of stick for being lightweight but 
had very little chance again but Dallas must be worth a start instead?> Alioski 
looked the business a few weeks ago but seems to have lost something, I think 
he needs a spell out of the team.> Do we need a change of style or formation? I 
know he wants to play out from the back but we keep getting caught overplaying 
in the wrong areas. Do we really need all those attacking players in an away 
game? Where is the bite in midfield? Could we play 2 up front and play more 
direct?> Early season optimism all but gone - I think we'll do well to make top 
six unless he sorts us out quickly.> > Simon> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On 1 
Oct 2017, at 14:06, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:>> >> Jesus Mike how about more 
overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is that a wasted year so far? I 
would have taken that in August.>> Nick>> >> Sent from my iPhone>> >>> On Oct 
1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:>>> >>> We are 
rubbish again>>> Another wasted year.>>> >>> Dr. Michael Benjamin>>> >>> 
>>> From: Leedslist 
<leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of >>> {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 
2017 3:32:23 PM>>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath>>> Cc: 
leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 
(Hooper 25)>>> >>> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !>>>  On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 
13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:>>> >>> We were comfortably 
on top until the defence went to sleep and gave >>> them a 
goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!>>> >>> 
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit < >>> 
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Simon McNally
Ha, mine's alcohol.


Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 14:34, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> I am not pessimistic -- I am an exhausted optimist with a coping mechanism  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon McNally [mailto:simon_mcna...@sky.com] 
> Sent: 01 October 2017 16:33
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 
> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
> {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
> Whilst I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to the doc's pessimism, that's 
> another game where we have been truly awful. Sky had a stat up first half 
> that basically says if we concede first we rarely win and nearly always lose. 
> I thought we looked better side at 0-0 but as soon as they scored we were 
> done. I've tried to look for positives in Wiedwald's keeping but there aren't 
> any. He doesn't claim crosses, his positioning is awful and he keeps punching 
> instead of catching. I'd rather have Silvestri.
> It's hard to be too harsh on Phillips and O'Kane after some excellent 
> performances in the early games but the season lasts 46 games, not 6. Viera 
> has to play and maybe Anita in central midfield too.
> Roofe gets a lot of stick for being lightweight but had very little chance 
> again but Dallas must be worth a start instead?
> Alioski looked the business a few weeks ago but seems to have lost something, 
> I think he needs a spell out of the team.
> Do we need a change of style or formation? I know he wants to play out from 
> the back but we keep getting caught overplaying in the wrong areas. Do we 
> really need all those attacking players in an away game? Where is the bite in 
> midfield? Could we play 2 up front and play more direct?
> Early season optimism all but gone - I think we'll do well to make top six 
> unless he sorts us out quickly.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 14:06, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
>> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is 
>> that a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
>> Nick
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We are rubbish again
>>> Another wasted year.
>>> 
>>> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of 
>>> {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
>>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
>>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>> 
>>> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>>>  On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave 
>>> them a goal..since then it's been like playing bloody 
>>> Brazil!
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit < 
>>> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>>>> position
>>>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>>

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Michael Benjamin
I am not pessimistic -- I am an exhausted optimist with a coping mechanism  

-Original Message-
From: Simon McNally [mailto:simon_mcna...@sky.com] 
Sent: 01 October 2017 16:33
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} 
Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; {broken-address} 
<seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

Whilst I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to the doc's pessimism, that's another 
game where we have been truly awful. Sky had a stat up first half that 
basically says if we concede first we rarely win and nearly always lose. 
I thought we looked better side at 0-0 but as soon as they scored we were done. 
I've tried to look for positives in Wiedwald's keeping but there aren't any. He 
doesn't claim crosses, his positioning is awful and he keeps punching instead 
of catching. I'd rather have Silvestri.
It's hard to be too harsh on Phillips and O'Kane after some excellent 
performances in the early games but the season lasts 46 games, not 6. Viera has 
to play and maybe Anita in central midfield too.
Roofe gets a lot of stick for being lightweight but had very little chance 
again but Dallas must be worth a start instead?
Alioski looked the business a few weeks ago but seems to have lost something, I 
think he needs a spell out of the team.
Do we need a change of style or formation? I know he wants to play out from the 
back but we keep getting caught overplaying in the wrong areas. Do we really 
need all those attacking players in an away game? Where is the bite in 
midfield? Could we play 2 up front and play more direct?
Early season optimism all but gone - I think we'll do well to make top six 
unless he sorts us out quickly.

Simon

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 14:06, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is 
> that a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We are rubbish again
>> Another wasted year.
>> 
>> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>> 
>> 
>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of 
>> {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>> 
>> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>>   On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave 
>> them a goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit < 
>> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>>> position
>>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is 
>>>>> turning
>>> out
>>>>> to be a massive weak link in our def

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Simon McNally
Whilst I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to the doc's pessimism, that's another 
game where we have been truly awful. Sky had a stat up first half that 
basically says if we concede first we rarely win and nearly always lose. 
I thought we looked better side at 0-0 but as soon as they scored we were done. 
I've tried to look for positives in Wiedwald's keeping but there aren't any. He 
doesn't claim crosses, his positioning is awful and he keeps punching instead 
of catching. I'd rather have Silvestri.
It's hard to be too harsh on Phillips and O'Kane after some excellent 
performances in the early games but the season lasts 46 games, not 6. Viera has 
to play and maybe Anita in central midfield too.
Roofe gets a lot of stick for being lightweight but had very little chance 
again but Dallas must be worth a start instead?
Alioski looked the business a few weeks ago but seems to have lost something, I 
think he needs a spell out of the team.
Do we need a change of style or formation? I know he wants to play out from the 
back but we keep getting caught overplaying in the wrong areas. Do we really 
need all those attacking players in an away game? Where is the bite in 
midfield? Could we play 2 up front and play more direct?
Early season optimism all but gone - I think we'll do well to make top six 
unless he sorts us out quickly.

Simon

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 14:06, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is 
> that a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We are rubbish again
>> Another wasted year.
>> 
>> Dr. Michael Benjamin
>> 
>> 
>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
>> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
>> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>> 
>> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>>   On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
>> goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
>> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>>> position
>>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
>>> out
>>>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>>>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>>>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
 agreed, however I do think that the honeymoon period is over and I think there 
are a few fundamentals that we need to look at. 
I thought we were rubbish today and when we're making Barry Bannan look like 
Messi due to giving him all the space in the world I think it's worrying. 
The tactics are suspect, with Lasogga just isolated on his own and in midfield 
our 2 battlers Philips and O'Kane showed what they are - very basic , 
pedestrian footballers. The worst thing that Phillips could have done this 
season is score some goals because I actually think his performances haven't 
been good. As for O'Kane, I've never rated him and at best I think he's an 
average , no frills , 10 yard ball man. Together they are not going to take us 
where we want to be. 
I think the keeper, who actually saved us from a real spanking is not a 
championship keeper i.e. someone who can control his box. 
We are not good enough to play tippy tappy football at the back. Look at their 
3rd, and O'Kane trying to play a little chip from inside his box. Madness and I 
think this is direction from the management in that we should be looking to 
play football with every pass but we need players who can pass - some of our 
players find that difficult. 
Very frustating and totally ruined my weekend but I think the worst thing is I 
think the bubble has burst and the optimism gone. All our wins have come 
against the shite teams. 
On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 14:06:38 BST, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:  
 
 Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is 
that a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> We are rubbish again
> Another wasted year.
> 
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>    On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
>wrote:
> 
> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
> goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
> 
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>> position
>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>> 
>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
>> out
>>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> According to my spies we should be three down
>>>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Ed Morrish
That's an over-reaction.

It's hard to disagree with Pontus's remarks in the Guardian - we were
out-muscled in midfield. Can't see how Vieira didn't get a chance ahead of
Phillips - yes, Phillips started the season better than expected, but he
wasn't the player to anchor a midfield away to a local rival.

Also, teams seem to have caught on to the fact that we will *always* try to
play the ball square for someone else to take it on, like we're a sodding
rugby league team or something, so if they press us we're screwed. But I'm
going to lay most of the blame on Weidwald, whose awful 'keeping allowed
the first goal and then unnerved the defence.

ed.

On 1 October 2017 at 14:15, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> We were bloody awful.
> I was wondering how many points do we need for safety 
>
> Something has gone really wrong-- they are not playing fir each other. If
> we lose at home -- I'd guess we have a problem in the dressing room.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 01 October 2017 16:06
> To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> Cc: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>;
> Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; leedslist@gn.apc.org;
> {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>
> Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is
> that a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> >
> > We are rubbish again
> > Another wasted year.
> >
> > Dr. Michael Benjamin
> >
> > 
> > From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of
> > {broken-address} Richard Walker
> > <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
> > To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >
> > O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
> >On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <
> rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave
> > them a goal..since then it's been like playing bloody
> Brazil!
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> > arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
> >> position
> >>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
> >>>>
> >>>> Defence is a complete shambles
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should've smashed him.
> >>>>> Put lonergan on second half
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> >>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that
> goal?
> >>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is
> >>>> turning
> >> out
> >>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> >>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> >>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Michael Benjamin
We were bloody awful. 
I was wondering how many points do we need for safety  

Something has gone really wrong-- they are not playing fir each other. If we 
lose at home -- I'd guess we have a problem in the dressing room. 

-Original Message-
From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 01 October 2017 16:06
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; {broken-address} Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>; leedslist@gn.apc.org; 
{broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is that 
a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> We are rubbish again
> Another wasted year.
> 
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of 
> {broken-address} Richard Walker 
> <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
> wrote:
> 
> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave 
> them a goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
> 
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit < 
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>> position
>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>> 
>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is 
>>>> turning
>> out
>>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> According to my spies we should be three down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ___
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>> mailman/listinfo/leedslist
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> Le

Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Jesus Mike how about more overreactions. We are 4th after 11 games. How is that 
a wasted year so far? I would have taken that in August.
Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> We are rubbish again
> Another wasted year.
> 
> Dr. Michael Benjamin
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
> Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
> To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
> O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
>On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
> wrote:
> 
> We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
> goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!
> 
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
>> position
>>> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>>>> 
>>>> Defence is a complete shambles
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should've smashed him.
>>>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>>>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>>>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
>> out
>>>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>>>>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> According to my spies we should be three down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ___
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>> mailman/listinfo/leedslist
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>> mailman/listinfo/leedslist
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FLAME WARS 'R US
>>>>> 
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Michael Benjamin
We are rubbish again
Another wasted year.

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:32:23 PM
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Rob Heath
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address}
Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
wrote:

 We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
> position
> > or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
> >>
> >> Defence is a complete shambles
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Should've smashed him.
> >>> Put lonergan on second half
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> >> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
> >> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
> out
> >> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> >>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> >>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> According to my spies we should be three down
> >>>>
> >>>> ___
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
 O'Kane is proper rubbish  !
On Sunday, 1 October 2017, 13:13:22 BST, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
wrote:  
 
 We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
> position
> > or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
> >>
> >> Defence is a complete shambles
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Should've smashed him.
> >>> Put lonergan on second half
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> >> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
> >> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
> out
> >> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> >>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> >>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> According to my spies we should be three down
> >>>>
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Rob Heath
We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
> position
> > or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
> >>
> >> Defence is a complete shambles
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Should've smashed him.
> >>> Put lonergan on second half
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> >> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
> >> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
> out
> >> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> >>>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> >>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> >>>>
> >>>> According to my spies we should be three down
> >>>>
> >>>> ___
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.

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> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of position
> or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> 
>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:
>> 
>> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>> 
>> Defence is a complete shambles
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Should've smashed him.
>>> Put lonergan on second half
>>> 
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>>>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
>> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
>> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out
>> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
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>>>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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>>>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Jim Moran
Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of position
or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.

On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:

> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
>
> Defence is a complete shambles
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> > Should've smashed him.
> > Put lonergan on second half
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out
> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
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> >> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> >> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Roy Blackwell
Definetly need to change the keeper

On 1 Oct 2017 1:00 pm, "Matt Anderson" <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:

We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.

Defence is a complete shambles

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>
> Should've smashed him.
> Put lonergan on second half
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.
gn..apc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal? He
hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out to
be a massive weak link in our defence.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>>
>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Matt Anderson
We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down. 

Defence is a complete shambles 

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> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> 
> Should've smashed him.
> Put lonergan on second half
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} 
>> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal? He 
>> hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out to 
>> be a massive weak link in our defence.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
>> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>> 
>> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>> 
>> According to my spies we should be three down
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Ted
Yes, goalie is definitely our weak link.



On 1 Oct 2017 12:55 pm, "{broken-address}" <
seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal? He
> hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out to
> be a massive weak link in our defence.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
>
> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread Simon McNally
Should've smashed him.
Put lonergan on second half

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> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} 
> <seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal? He 
> hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out to 
> be a massive weak link in our defence.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
> To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
> Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
> Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
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> According to my spies we should be three down
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread {broken-address}
Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal? He 
hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning out to be 
a massive weak link in our defence.



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To: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

According to my spies we should be three down

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[LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

2017-10-01 Thread John Boocock

Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

According to my spies we should be three down

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