Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

thats fine.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 2:15 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

> Sorry, the plans are private.
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Tim do you have scaled drawings of your wave attachment too?
>> Based on all the info you guys are sharing we should be able
>> to figure this out.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:28 AM Tim < artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m finding all sorts of things.  The attatched file shows some
>>> roulettes that can be made using the rotory table and the lead screw.  The
>>> cool trick is patterns B and C can be made going up a post.  It just takes
>>> a slightly different approach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m going to let you noodle on the idea for a while.
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

Richard try posting to the group by email use 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 

That’s how I do it and all the reply’s should come to you by email..and you 
wont need to go to the site unless you want to search the archives for 
something.

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2019 6:31 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Tim

What a muddle this google site is

I was typing my message re DIAMOND and all of a sudden a little note came up in 
the right corner of the screen that another message had come in .

My page disappeared!!

Anyway the amount of non-syncro just depends on the turn of the crank handle 
i:e one turn 1/4 inch or in my case how much offset one wants I just measured 
the distance peak to peak and divided in half for my pattern.

That box has just appeared again and if I click on it to see the latest message 
all i get is the screen saying the page is loading and that is all . As I said 
before What a muddle this site is.

Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:53:31 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a push 
and a pull to complete a single wave.  Am I thinking correctly on this?

 

 Original message 

From: Richard Ellis  > 

Date: 8/30/19 4:05 AM (GMT-08:00) 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  > 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 

Hi Tim & Timothy

All interesting stuff.

When I did my latest as shown in the pic

 I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.

After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the start by 
( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the crank handle. 
---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the carriage back to the 
start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the remaing three cuts.

All good practice and fun

Richard

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:

Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. 

And of course build the attachment.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim mailto:artma...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

 

Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how much?  
I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° travel of the 
spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.

 

If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some time 😊

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[artmarbles]

You think this site is a muddle, imagine trying to own it! Hahaha There is 
hardly anything left that we as owners can customize or fix any more. I'm truly 
suprised that it's still around at this point. Google said it would always be 
available, but it's been long enough that I've seen plenty of Google products 
disappear that had the life time of service that was unlimited. Oh well, it's 
still working. Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/31/19  1:30 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves TimWhat a muddle this google site isI was typing my message re DIAMOND 
and all of a sudden a little note came up in the right corner of the screen 
that another message had come in .My page disappeared!!Anyway the 
amount of non-syncro just depends on the turn of the crank handle i:e one turn 
1/4 inch or in my case how much offset one wants I just measured the distance 
peak to peak and divided in half for my pattern.That box has just appeared 
again and if I click on it to see the latest message all i get is the screen 
saying the page is loading and that is all . As I said before What a muddle 
this site is.RichardOn Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:53:31 AM UTC+1, Tim 
wrote:The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a 
push and a pull to complete a single wave.  Am I thinking correctly on 
this? Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/30/19  4:05 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves Hi 
Tim & TimothyAll interesting stuff.When I did my latest as shown in the pic I 
measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.After doing 
the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the start by ( crank 
handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the crank handle. ---Next 
I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the carriage back to the start 
position,,, re-connected the nut and did the remaing three cuts.All good 
practice and funRichardOn Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim 
Ziegler wrote:Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to 
do that. And of course build the attachment.Kind Regards,Timothy J. 
ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 
56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim 
 wrote:  Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the 
amplitude, but by how much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would 
give you 90° travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer 
pitches. If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
time 😊



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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Tim
What a muddle this google site is
I was typing my message re DIAMOND and all of a sudden a little note came 
up in the right corner of the screen that another message had come in .
My page disappeared!!
Anyway the amount of non-syncro just depends on the turn of the crank 
handle i:e one turn 1/4 inch or in my case how much offset one wants I just 
measured the distance peak to peak and divided in half for my pattern.
That box has just appeared again and if I click on it to see the latest 
message all i get is the screen saying the page is loading and that is all 
. As I said before What a muddle this site is.
Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:53:31 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a 
> push and a pull to complete a single wave.  Am I thinking correctly on this?
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 8/30/19 4:05 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Hi Tim & Timothy
> All interesting stuff.
> When I did my latest as shown in the pic
>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.
> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the 
> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the 
> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the 
> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the 
> remaing three cuts.
> All good practice and fun
> Richard
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. 
>> And of course build the attachment.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim  wrote:
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
>>> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° 
>>> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
>>> time 😊
>>>
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[artmarbles]

This is really awesome to me. Congratulations on the 60th. If diamonds is all 
you needed, you just needed to spiral one direction and then the other. I bet 
you knew that through.  Thanks for the food for thought!Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/31/19  12:58 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves TimI think I have done all I want to at the present timeI started on 
this WAVE caper to see if I could make DIAMOND shapes on the coat stand I was 
making WHY it was our 60th wedding anniversary, Now I will have to 
think of what to do for the 70th one ??!!RichardOn Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 
8:35:43 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:I'm sitting in my lazyboy recliner right now and 
thinking about adding more amplitude. It would be possible to increase the 
travel of the twist by relocating the location of the connection on the index 
plate. So instead of mounting the connecting arm on the 4" diameter, make a arm 
that extends the location to say a 8" or 12" location.  That way the spindle 
will twist more for the amount of offset.  It was something I did not include 
in the original design nor did I try it out, but I've seen a couple of 
Reciprocators that use this technique.  
Good luck and I hope you try this out Richard.
On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:18 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 Hey thanks for that and good to see someone up at the same time as me. lol
 
  I have a bunch of spindles to get done today on my lathe but if time permits 
this evening I'm going 
 
 
  to start studying this more. Thanks for sharing. 
  
  
   

 Kind Regards,
 
  
 
 
  Timothy J. Ziegler
 
 
  Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 
 
  14171 160th Ave.
 
 
  Foreston MN 56330
 
 
  
 
 
  320-294-5798 shop
 
 
  320-630-2243 cell
 

   
  
  
 



 
  On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:05 AM Richard Ellis <
  rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
 
 
  
   Hi Tim & Timothy
   
All interesting stuff.
   
   
When I did my latest as shown in the pic
   
   
 I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.
   
   
After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the start 
by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the crank 
handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the carriage back 
to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the remaing three cuts.
   
   
All good practice and fun
   
   
Richard

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:

 
  Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. 
  
   And of course build the attachment.
   
   

 
  Kind Regards,
  
   
  
  
   Timothy J. Ziegler
  
  
   Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
  
  
   14171 160th Ave.
  
  
   Foreston MN 56330
  
  
   
  
  
   320-294-5798 shop
  
  
   320-630-2243 cell
  
 

   
   
  
 
 
 
  
   On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim <
   artma...@comcast.net> wrote:
   
  
  
   

  
  
 Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° travel of 
the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
  
 If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
time 😊


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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

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Tim
I think I have done all I want to at the present time
I started on this WAVE caper to see if I could make DIAMOND shapes on the 
coat stand I was making WHY it was our 60th wedding 
anniversary, Now I will have to think of what to do for the 70th one ??!!
Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:35:43 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> I'm sitting in my lazyboy recliner right now and thinking about adding 
> more amplitude. It would be possible to increase the travel of the twist by 
> relocating the location of the connection on the index plate. So instead of 
> mounting the connecting arm on the 4" diameter, make a arm that extends the 
> location to say a 8" or 12" location.  That way the spindle will twist more 
> for the amount of offset.  It was something I did not include in the 
> original design nor did I try it out, but I've seen a couple of 
> Reciprocators that use this technique.  
>
> Good luck and I hope you try this out Richard.
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:18 AM, Tim Ziegler > 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey thanks for that and good to see someone up at the same time as me. 
>> lol 
>> I have a bunch of spindles to get done today on my lathe but if time 
>> permits this evening I'm going  
>> to start studying this more. Thanks for sharing.  
>> Kind Regards, 
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 
>> 14171 160th Ave. 
>> Foreston MN 56330 
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop 
>> 320-630-2243 cell 
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:05 AM Richard Ellis < rchrd...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote: 
>>
>>> Hi Tim & Timothy 
>>> All interesting stuff. 
>>> When I did my latest as shown in the pic 
>>>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches. 
>>> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the 
>>> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the 
>>> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the 
>>> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the 
>>> remaing three cuts. 
>>> All good practice and fun 
>>> Richard 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote: 

 Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do 
 that.  
 And of course build the attachment. 
 Kind Regards, 

 Timothy J. Ziegler 
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 
 14171 160th Ave. 
 Foreston MN 56330 

 320-294-5798 shop 
 320-630-2243 cell 


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>  
>
>  
>
> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° 
> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer 
> pitches.
>
>  
>
> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
> time 😊
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

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The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a push 
and a pull to complete a single wave.  Am I thinking correctly on this?
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/30/19  4:05 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves Hi Tim & TimothyAll interesting stuff.When I did my latest as shown in 
the pic I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 
inches.After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the 
start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the 
crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the carriage 
back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the remaing three 
cuts.All good practice and funRichardOn Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM 
UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure 
out how to do that. And of course build the attachment.Kind Regards,Timothy J. 
ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 
56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim 
 wrote:  Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the 
amplitude, but by how much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would 
give you 90° travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer 
pitches. If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
time 😊



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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Krause]

I'm sitting in my lazyboy recliner right now and thinking about adding more 
amplitude. It would be possible to increase the travel of the twist by 
relocating the location of the connection on the index plate. So instead of 
mounting the connecting arm on the 4" diameter, make a arm that extends the 
location to say a 8" or 12" location.  That way the spindle will twist more for 
the amount of offset.  It was something I did not include in the original 
design nor did I try it out, but I've seen a couple of Reciprocators that use 
this technique.  

Good luck and I hope you try this out Richard.

On Aug 30, 2019, 4:18 AM, at 4:18 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>Hey thanks for that and good to see someone up at the same time as me.
>lol
>I have a bunch of spindles to get done today on my lathe but if time
>permits this evening I'm going
>to start studying this more. Thanks for sharing.
>Kind Regards,
>
>Timothy J. Ziegler
>Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>14171 160th Ave.
>Foreston MN 56330
>
>320-294-5798 shop
>320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:05 AM Richard Ellis 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim & Timothy
>> All interesting stuff.
>> When I did my latest as shown in the pic
>>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5
>inches.
>> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the
>> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns
>of the
>> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the
>> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did
>the
>> remaing three cuts.
>> All good practice and fun
>> Richard
>>
>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do
>that.
>>> And of course build the attachment.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim  wrote:
>>>




 Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by
>how
 much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you
>90°
 travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer
>pitches.



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>some
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Krause]

Sorry, the plans are private.  

On Aug 30, 2019, 4:25 AM, at 4:25 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>Tim do you have scaled drawings of your wave attachment too?
>Based on all the info you guys are sharing we should be able
>to figure this out.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Timothy J. Ziegler
>Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>14171 160th Ave.
>Foreston MN 56330
>
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>320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:28 AM Tim  wrote:
>
>> I’m finding all sorts of things.  The attatched file shows some
>roulettes
>> that can be made using the rotory table and the lead screw.  The cool
>trick
>> is patterns B and C can be made going up a post.  It just takes a
>slightly
>> different approach.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m going to let you noodle on the idea for a while.
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

Tim do you have scaled drawings of your wave attachment too?
Based on all the info you guys are sharing we should be able
to figure this out.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:28 AM Tim  wrote:

> I’m finding all sorts of things.  The attatched file shows some roulettes
> that can be made using the rotory table and the lead screw.  The cool trick
> is patterns B and C can be made going up a post.  It just takes a slightly
> different approach.
>
>
>
> I’m going to let you noodle on the idea for a while.
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey thanks for that and good to see someone up at the same time as me. lol
I have a bunch of spindles to get done today on my lathe but if time
permits this evening I'm going
to start studying this more. Thanks for sharing.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:05 AM Richard Ellis 
wrote:

> Hi Tim & Timothy
> All interesting stuff.
> When I did my latest as shown in the pic
>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.
> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the
> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the
> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the
> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the
> remaing three cuts.
> All good practice and fun
> Richard
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that.
>> And of course build the attachment.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how
>>> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90°
>>> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some
>>> time 😊
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Tim & Timothy
All interesting stuff.
When I did my latest as shown in the pic
 I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.
After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the start 
by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the crank 
handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the carriage 
back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the remaing 
three cuts.
All good practice and fun
Richard

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. 
> And of course build the attachment.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim > 
> wrote:
>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
>> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° 
>> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
>>
>>  
>>
>> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
>> time 😊
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that.
And of course build the attachment.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how
> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90°
> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
>
>
>
> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some time
> 😊
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

Very cool. that should motivate people to use their LOM

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:16 AM Richard Ellis 
wrote:

> Hi Tim
> Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
> How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is
> on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and
> then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little
> deeper   (Me thinks )
> You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the
> piston rod.Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
> Richard
> - show quoted text -
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Hi all you LOM experts
>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present
>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve
>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point
>> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>> Richard
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim]

I’m finding all sorts of things.  The attatched file shows some roulettes that 
can be made using the rotory table and the lead screw.  The cool trick is 
patterns B and C can be made going up a post.  It just takes a slightly 
different approach.

I’m going to let you noodle on the idea for a while.  

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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

That one worked I see the pic nice Richard

 

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Hi Tim

Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !

How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is on a 
piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and then a 
reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little deeper   (Me 
thinks )

You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the piston 
rod.Don't know what you think and can I make it more fancy

Richard

- show quoted text -


On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hey that everyone.  (Just got home from work.)
Genius??? Not me !  Perhaps clever? or persistent could describe me better.( 
How about just LUCKY? I have some smart friends who help me out went they 
can... )  ;-)
Tim the slide and piston arm on the lead screw would be very easy to MAKE, but 
you would not be able to slow down the wave length, the only thing you would be 
able to do is effect the wave width.  The Only way, I have been able to 
lengthen the wave is with , One a larger duplex gear, and Two, slowing down the 
gears, by the use of the poor mans gear multiplier..     
Now the term Genius,would fit you better.  After all the Acme screw, which the 
Legacy uses, is not used very much in the OT world. this is why the Atkinson 
Reciprocator only has adjustment for the wave width in the design.It was you 
who saw how to pair the two up to make your sign wave patterns.NOW you have me 
thinking... I need more time to think about  your idea... There may  be some 
method , that I do not see at this time..?
Im going to have to sleep on it.  (It's late for me, I am going to hit the hay 
now.)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.




On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 07:19:07 PM EDT, artmarbles 
 wrote:  
 
 Too kind Bill.  I'm just trying to add to the conversation so others can run 
with it.  After all, it was my words that made Curt understand the process that 
he was able to build a version before seeing mine. Either he is a genius or I'm 
really good at describing things. Maybe a bit of both.
Thanks for the complement. 
Tim


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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[artmarbles]

Too kind Bill.  I'm just trying to add to the conversation so others can run 
with it.  After all, it was my words that made Curt understand the process that 
he was able to build a version before seeing mine. Either he is a genius or I'm 
really good at describing things. Maybe a bit of both.Thanks for the 
complement. Tim
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

As usual we have to hang our heads master yoda as you continue to display you 
are always the master legacy jedi  ha ha 😊

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 2:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi Curt, I hate to call you out on this, but the wave attachment / TK 
Reciprocator is not our exclusive item.  As you know, it was inspired by the 
Atkinson Reciprocator.  What makes it unique to our group is the ease of using 
a router to cut the pattern.  When can cut it deeper than the traditional 
equipment.  We can make the pattern on larger pieces, but I'll never claim that 
it is exclusive.

Now what has not been revealed by myself is that the reciprocator does not have 
to bemounted on the duplex gear. It can be mounted on the leadscrew as 
well. One iteration of my design used that method.  It's also possible to make 
changes to the pattern as rarely discussed by changing the number of teeth on 
the duplex gear.  I did also have a method of of creating a fool proof DNA 
pattern based on flipping the adjustment rail 180 degrees.  That way tooth 
count and marking of the gears would not be needed. Since it was such a limited 
use feature, I never got around to implementing it. 

Hey Richard, I'm still not seeing the picture.  Did you attach it? You want to 
know what I think regarding making it more fancy? You made a pattern that I 
have never dreamed possible and your asking me? I have not made anything with 
the reciprocator for over 5 years! MAYBE its time to revisit the device from a 
different set of parameters like you are thinking. I do think that Bill is 
correct in saying 90 degrees of twist is the maximum. It would depend on the 
pitch mostly, not the amplitude.  Again, it's something I would have to look at 
again, but it's very low on my list of things to do. Probably right next to the 
colonoscopy! Hahahaha.

Tim

On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim

Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !

How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is on a 
piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and then a 
reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little deeper   (Me 
thinks )

You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the piston 
rod.Don't know what you think and can I make it more fancy

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > 
wrote:

Tim 

I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,

 So this reply I thought wood have included the pic

I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 

 

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet

 

 Original message 

From: Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > 

Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 

Hi

 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more stormy---just 
want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , When I get one made .

Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Krause]

Hi Curt, I hate to call you out on this, but the wave attachment / TK 
Reciprocator is not our exclusive item.  As you know, it was inspired by the 
Atkinson Reciprocator.  What makes it unique to our group is the ease of using 
a router to cut the pattern.  When can cut it deeper than the traditional 
equipment.  We can make the pattern on larger pieces, but I'll never claim that 
it is exclusive.

Now what has not been revealed by myself is that the reciprocator does not have 
to be    mounted on the duplex gear. It can be mounted on the leadscrew as 
well. One iteration of my design used that method.  It's also possible to make 
changes to the pattern as rarely discussed by changing the number of teeth on 
the duplex gear.  I did also have a method of of creating a fool proof DNA 
pattern based on flipping the adjustment rail 180 degrees.  That way tooth 
count and marking of the gears would not be needed. Since it was such a limited 
use feature, I never got around to implementing it. 

Hey Richard, I'm still not seeing the picture.  Did you attach it? You want to 
know what I think regarding making it more fancy? You made a pattern that I 
have never dreamed possible and your asking me? I have not made anything with 
the reciprocator for over 5 years! MAYBE its time to revisit the device from a 
different set of parameters like you are thinking. I do think that Bill is 
correct in saying 90 degrees of twist is the maximum. It would depend on the 
pitch mostly, not the amplitude.  Again, it's something I would have to look at 
again, but it's very low on my list of things to do. Probably right next to the 
colonoscopy! Hahahaha.

Tim

On Aug 29, 2019, 8:24 AM, at 8:24 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Hi Tim
>Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
>How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It
>is 
>on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and
>
>then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little 
>deeper   (Me thinks )
>You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen
>the 
>piston rod.Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis > > wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim 
>>> I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
>>>  So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>>> I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>>
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Richard Ellis  
>>>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
>>>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go
>to the 
>>>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>>>> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston
>rod , 
>>>> When I get one made .
>>>> Richard 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was
>thinking of 
>>>>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks good so far 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat
>stand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller
>

RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

Richard none of your pictures are coming through on the emails copy and attach 
them to the emails before you end them

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2019 1:24 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi Tim

Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !

How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is on a 
piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and then a 
reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little deeper   (Me 
thinks )

You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the piston 
rod.Don't know what you think and can I make it more fancy

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > 
wrote:

Tim 

I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,

 So this reply I thought wood have included the pic

I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again

Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:

Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 

 

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet

 

 Original message 

From: Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > 

Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 

 

Hi

 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more stormy---just 
want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , When I get one made .

Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/e0b3e7c62df30/long%20wave.JPG?part=0.1&view=1&authuser=0>
 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > O

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Tim
Not the pic I meant to put on, but the finished article !
How right you are, ---so i stopped thinking and did my wave pattern. It is 
on a piece of wood about 1 3/4 inc dia. and is a three wave one way and 
then a reverse three. Looks o.k. but maybee should have been a little 
deeper   (Me thinks )
You can see that is the highest wave that I can get until I lengthen the 
piston rod.Don't know what you *think* and can I make it more fancy
Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:22:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!
> On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>>
>> Tim 
>> I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
>>  So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>> I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>
>>>  Original message ----
>>> From: Richard Ellis  
>>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
>>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
>>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>>> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
>>> When I get one made .
>>> Richard 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
>>>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks good so far 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It 
>>>>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>>>>
>>>>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
>>>>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>>>>
>>>>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>>>>
>>>>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change 
>>>>> the TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not 
>>>>> LOM )
>>>>>
>>>>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
>>>>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like 
>>>>> what you want to make?
>>>>>
>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>>>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you 
>>>>> make also makes the wave look dif

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Krause]

I was about to say that you all are thinking way too much anyway!

On Aug 29, 2019, 4:19 AM, at 4:19 AM, Richard Ellis  
wrote:
>Tim 
>I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
> So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
>I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
>Richard
>
>On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Richard Ellis > 
>> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>>
>> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>>
>> Hi
>>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to
>the 
>> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
>> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston
>rod , 
>> When I get one made .
>> Richard 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking
>of 
>>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looks good so far 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> 
>>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat
>stand.
>>>>
>>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!!
>It 
>>>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>>>
>>>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia.
>but 
>>>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>>>
>>>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>>>
>>>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change
>the 
>>>> TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer (
>Not LOM )
>>>>
>>>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's
>
>>>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>>>
>>>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this
>like 
>>>> what you want to make?
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via
>Legacy 
>>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Good morning.
>>>>
>>>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you
>make 
>>>> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of
>the work 
>>>> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will
>give you 
>>>> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for
>the top 
>>>> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>>>> different cutters.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G. 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, 
>
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can
>achieve 
>>>> 

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Tim 
I posted a reply to a previous answer and it included the pic,
 So this reply I* thought* wood have included the pic
I shall have to stop thinking !!! and put the pic up again
Richard

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 8/28/19 11:49 PM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Hi
>  Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
> extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
> stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
> When I get one made .
> Richard 
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
>> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good so far 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>>>
>>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It 
>>> of course only approx half of the stand height.
>>>
>>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
>>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>>
>>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>>
>>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the 
>>> TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>>>
>>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
>>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>>
>>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like 
>>> what you want to make?
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Good morning.
>>>
>>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
>>> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
>>> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
>>> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
>>> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>>> different cutters.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> C.A.G. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
>>> wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve 
>>> as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the 
>>> same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my 
>>> guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would 
>>> be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop 
>>> I would try a few and report back.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Ri

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[artmarbles]

Am I the only one that does not see a picture or an attachment? Sent from 
Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/28/19  11:49 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves Hi Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to 
the extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , When I 
get one made .Richard On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard 
Ellis wrote:Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was 
thinking of putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!On 
Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:Looks good so far 
 Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PMTo: Legacy 
Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater 
long curves Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat 
stand.It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.The four inch TK curve will be 
spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have a straight flute between each 
curve,Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 
at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:Hi Bill Tim & CurtI will have to 
settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to the 2X .Need a 
different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )I will update you when I 
take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose also the dimensions.Bit too 
busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.RichardOn Sunday, 
August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:Here is the longest 
pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you want to make?C.A.G.On 
Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote:   Good morning.Richard, What 
router bit are you using? What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the 
type of cut you make also makes the wave look different.  depending on the 
diameter of the work piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your 
cut will give you different looks. And also will the method of cutting. 
(Cutting for the top vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the 
look.) Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
different cutters. C.A.G.  On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, 
 wrote:   If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the 
biggest you can achieve as it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually 
no degrees to 90. But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch 
just the same as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so 
my guess would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would 
be greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I 
would try a few and report back. Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Sunday, 18 
August 2019 7:47 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves Hi all 
you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at 
present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve If I 
change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to point  
--- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi
 Here is the pic of my maximum height of wave. I don't need to go to the 
extreme but do need the waves to be more exaggerated i:e more 
stormy---just want to rock the boat! Hence a longer piston rod , 
When I get one made .
Richard 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 5:54:51 PM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Looks good so far 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>>
>>  
>>
>> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>>
>> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
>> course only approx half of the stand height.
>>
>> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but 
>> will have a straight flute between each curve,
>>
>> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>>
>> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the 
>> TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>>
>> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
>> purpose also the dimensions.
>>
>> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what 
>> you want to make?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Good morning.
>>
>> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>>
>>  
>>
>> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
>> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
>> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
>> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
>> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and 
>> different cutters.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as 
>> it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same 
>> as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess 
>> would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be 
>> greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I 
>> would try a few and report back.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi all you LOM experts
>>
>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>>
>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
>> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>>
>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Ron that is some Very nice work you have there!
The elliptical bowl is something that I have spend a lot of time on, over the 
years.(sadly with little success .) Perhaps when I get some more time, I will 
be able to get my Legacy oval jig working as I hoped for?
Please stay health Ron, I cant wait to see what you will come up with in the 
future. ;-)
C.A.G.




On Sunday, August 25, 2019, 11:54:53 AM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtThe topic I was working on with Burnie was oval or elliptical bowls.He 
was using his manual legacy with a template follower for a straight wall oval 
bowl.
I was looking at doing it using segments which would save a lot of wood. The 
problem is the segments are not the same as in a circular bowl at a givenring 
level. The angle to cut segment ends at are not equal and vary within the ring. 
With exception at the major and minor axes based on the segments bisecting the 
axes. Burnie was considering graphing the given ellipse and measuring the 
angles. I addressed calculating them using  developed equations. The 
determination would be for only one quadrant since the other quadrants would be 
the same. Burnie and I had a lot of discussions about the legacy and improving 
and increasing its capabilities. I miss his discussions as well.
I make all my bowls using segments. My bowls are about 14 inches at the largest 
diameter and about 9 inches in depth. I use my Shopsmith to turn them. The 
diameter and height prevents me from using the Legacy. I have considered making 
the rings on the Legacy and assemble them and then turn the bowl on the 
Shopsmith. However, I haven't tried it yet. Due to health issues I haven't been 
in the shop much I have attach some pictures of my bowl in construction and 
complete.
Ron K

-Original Message-
From: 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 7:48 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

Hi CurtYes  I would like to see about your wave attachment.Ron K
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:14 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Hello RonThank you.  Burnie and I had many conversions over the years, ( I do 
miss him.)  I have not had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Gold. (But I know Tim 
would very much like to see that VB script you were talking about. )   The CNC 
world is something right out of the Si-Fi  comic books. Amazing stuff. and way 
beyond my comprehension at this time.
Since you own a 1000 ex. I can explain how I made my Wave attachment, (with 
pictures)  If you want to make your own attachment for your Legacy. Its pretty 
easy to do. Plus as I already stated, the cutting method is unique.Have a good 
night.
C.A.G..
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 03:28:33 PM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hi CurSoftware has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall his 
first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller bearings on 
each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie in upgrading his 
Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a few years ago. Mr Gold 
sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was cut on a CNC machine using 
his software. I produced a report a few years ago that provides the equations 
and software code for the generation of sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, 
zig zag or triangle and square wave patterns on circular, multisided or tapered 
columns. I refer to wave forms along the column as strings of pearls. I also 
produced modifications to the equations and software to provide the same 
waveforms around either end or both ends of the column which I refer to as 
bracelets. I also provide equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also 
have an approach for curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are 
for CNC machines. The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My 
Legacy is the 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to 
produce the required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I 
haven't yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We 
work together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
Regards,    
Ron K

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys 

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hi CurtYes  I would like to see about your wave attachment.Ron K
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 12:14 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Hello RonThank you.  Burnie and I had many conversions over the years, ( I do 
miss him.)  I have not had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Gold. (But I know Tim 
would very much like to see that VB script you were talking about. )   The CNC 
world is something right out of the Si-Fi  comic books. Amazing stuff. and way 
beyond my comprehension at this time.
Since you own a 1000 ex. I can explain how I made my Wave attachment, (with 
pictures)  If you want to make your own attachment for your Legacy. Its pretty 
easy to do. Plus as I already stated, the cutting method is unique.Have a good 
night.
C.A.G..
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 03:28:33 PM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hi CurSoftware has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall his 
first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller bearings on 
each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie in upgrading his 
Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a few years ago. Mr Gold 
sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was cut on a CNC machine using 
his software. I produced a report a few years ago that provides the equations 
and software code for the generation of sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, 
zig zag or triangle and square wave patterns on circular, multisided or tapered 
columns. I refer to wave forms along the column as strings of pearls. I also 
produced modifications to the equations and software to provide the same 
waveforms around either end or both ends of the column which I refer to as 
bracelets. I also provide equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also 
have an approach for curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are 
for CNC machines. The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My 
Legacy is the 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to 
produce the required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I 
haven't yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We 
work together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
Regards,    
Ron K

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines can not 
do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to speak !)  ;-)
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtI am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will 
go into my folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do th

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello and Good morning to all.
Richard, I like and do use your idea, of sorts. I have done the sharpy marker 
in my router chuck idea, But what I like to do more is, I take a large spindle 
and turn it, using light cuts with the router bit, If the cut dose not look 
good when finished, I just turn the spindle round again and then try another 
pattern on the same spindle. In my scrap bins I have lots of spindles that 
started out as 3" and 4" and are now something close to 3/4" to 1" before I 
stop using them.
Your second message . on the piston rod being to short? If you can take some 
pictures of the part, perhaps we could figure out how to make a new one of you?
Have a Great day.
Talk to you more latter.
C.A.G.On Saturday, August 24, 2019, 06:00:06 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Curt My TK 'S piston rod is not long enough to make the waves more stormy 
when using the 2X gear. Another alteration to do.!!Richard

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 5:14:29 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 Hello RonThank you.  Burnie and I had many conversions over the years, ( I do 
miss him.)  I have not had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Gold. (But I know Tim 
would very much like to see that VB script you were talking about. )   The CNC 
world is something right out of the Si-Fi  comic books. Amazing stuff. and way 
beyond my comprehension at this time.
Since you own a 1000 ex. I can explain how I made my Wave attachment, (with 
pictures)  If you want to make your own attachment for your Legacy. Its pretty 
easy to do. Plus as I already stated, the cutting method is unique.Have a good 
night.
C.A.G..
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 03:28:33 PM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hi CurSoftware has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall his 
first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller bearings on 
each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie in upgrading his 
Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a few years ago. Mr Gold 
sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was cut on a CNC machine using 
his software. I produced a report a few years ago that provides the equations 
and software code for the generation of sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, 
zig zag or triangle and square wave patterns on circular, multisided or tapered 
columns. I refer to wave forms along the column as strings of pearls. I also 
produced modifications to the equations and software to provide the same 
waveforms around either end or both ends of the column which I refer to as 
bracelets. I also provide equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also 
have an approach for curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are 
for CNC machines. The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My 
Legacy is the 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to 
produce the required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I 
haven't yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We 
work together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
Regards,    
Ron K

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines can not 
do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to speak !)  ;-)
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtI am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Leg

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Curt
 My TK 'S piston rod is not long enough to make the waves more stormy when 
using the 2X gear. Another alteration to do.!!
Richard

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 5:14:29 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Ron
> Thank you.  
> Burnie and I had many conversions over the years, ( I do miss him.)  I 
> have not had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Gold. (But I know Tim would very 
> much like to see that VB script you were talking about. )   The CNC world 
> is something right out of the Si-Fi  comic books. Amazing stuff. and way 
> beyond my comprehension at this time.
>
> Since you own a 1000 ex. I can explain how I made my Wave attachment, 
> (with pictures)  If you want to make your own attachment for your Legacy. 
> Its pretty easy to do. 
> Plus as I already stated, the cutting method is unique.
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G..
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2019, 03:28:33 PM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Cur
> Software has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
> This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall 
> his first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller 
> bearings on each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie 
> in upgrading his Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a 
> few years ago. Mr Gold sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was 
> cut on a CNC machine using his software. I produced a report a few years 
> ago that provides the equations and software code for the generation of 
> sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, zig zag or triangle and square wave 
> patterns on circular, multisided or tapered columns. I refer to wave forms 
> along the column as strings of pearls. I also produced modifications to the 
> equations and software to provide the same waveforms around either end or 
> both ends of the column which I refer to as bracelets. I also provide 
> equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also have an approach for 
> curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are for CNC machines. 
> The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My Legacy is the 
> 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to produce the 
> required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I haven't 
> yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We work 
> together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
> Regards,
> Ron K
>
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
> >
> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
> Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
>
> The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
> group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
>
> Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines 
> can not do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to 
> speak !)  ;-)
>
> Have a GREAT DAY.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt 
> I am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
> certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Richard
> I like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
> neat cut!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Well Tim you are right 
> What I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of the TK   ( 
> pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the pin in 
> the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a mistake 
> like I did. All trial and error on my part. 
> The question is ---shall I be able to do it again ??
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return 
> spring to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis  
> Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Tim & others 
> Here are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Ron 
Interesting stuff CNC but way beyond me. Is it sensible for a one off item. 
??It must take quite a while to program it.
I think back on all my years and remember my Crystal set  ( Radio )
 and I am sure I did not have to use a battery to work it. You can't do 
that with CNC!?
I have a method of working out Wave patterns to save wood-A 
piece of plastic pipe with wood bungs at each end  in the LOM and a pen 
clamped to the carriage marking the pipe.
Richard

On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:28:32 PM UTC+1, kirch wrote:
>
> Hi Cur
> Software has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
> This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall 
> his first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller 
> bearings on each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie 
> in upgrading his Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a 
> few years ago. Mr Gold sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was 
> cut on a CNC machine using his software. I produced a report a few years 
> ago that provides the equations and software code for the generation of 
> sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, zig zag or triangle and square wave 
> patterns on circular, multisided or tapered columns. I refer to wave forms 
> along the column as strings of pearls. I also produced modifications to the 
> equations and software to provide the same waveforms around either end or 
> both ends of the column which I refer to as bracelets. I also provide 
> equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also have an approach for 
> curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are for CNC machines. 
> The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My Legacy is the 
> 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to produce the 
> required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I haven't 
> yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We work 
> together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
> Regards,
> Ron K
>
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
> >
> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
> Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
>
> The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
> group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
>
> Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines 
> can not do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to 
> speak !)  ;-)
>
> Have a GREAT DAY.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt 
> I am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
> certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Richard
> I like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
> neat cut!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Well Tim you are right 
> What I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of the TK   ( 
> pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the pin in 
> the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a mistake 
> like I did. All trial and error on my part. 
> The question is ---shall I be able to do it again ??
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return 
> spring to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis  
> Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Tim & others 
> Here are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Curt & Bill 
>  I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my folder for 
> other s who end up with my Revo
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point 

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello RonThank you.  Burnie and I had many conversions over the years, ( I do 
miss him.)  I have not had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Gold. (But I know Tim 
would very much like to see that VB script you were talking about. )   The CNC 
world is something right out of the Si-Fi  comic books. Amazing stuff. and way 
beyond my comprehension at this time.
Since you own a 1000 ex. I can explain how I made my Wave attachment, (with 
pictures)  If you want to make your own attachment for your Legacy. Its pretty 
easy to do. Plus as I already stated, the cutting method is unique.Have a good 
night.
C.A.G..
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 03:28:33 PM EDT, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
 Hi CurSoftware has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall his 
first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller bearings on 
each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie in upgrading his 
Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a few years ago. Mr Gold 
sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was cut on a CNC machine using 
his software. I produced a report a few years ago that provides the equations 
and software code for the generation of sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, 
zig zag or triangle and square wave patterns on circular, multisided or tapered 
columns. I refer to wave forms along the column as strings of pearls. I also 
produced modifications to the equations and software to provide the same 
waveforms around either end or both ends of the column which I refer to as 
bracelets. I also provide equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also 
have an approach for curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are 
for CNC machines. The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My 
Legacy is the 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to 
produce the required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I 
haven't yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We 
work together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
Regards,    
Ron K

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines can not 
do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to speak !)  ;-)
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtI am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will 
go into my folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hi CurSoftware has been developed to produce sign waves on a circular column. 
This software was developed by Mr. Gold in North Carolina. I don't recall his 
first name. He worked with Bernie modifying his Legacy with roller bearings on 
each axis to improve carriage movement. He also helped Bernie in upgrading his 
Legacy to CNC. Bernie was a member and he passed away a few years ago. Mr Gold 
sent me a picture of a column where sine wave was cut on a CNC machine using 
his software. I produced a report a few years ago that provides the equations 
and software code for the generation of sine waves, half circle, ellipticle, 
zig zag or triangle and square wave patterns on circular, multisided or tapered 
columns. I refer to wave forms along the column as strings of pearls. I also 
produced modifications to the equations and software to provide the same 
waveforms around either end or both ends of the column which I refer to as 
bracelets. I also provide equations and software for spirals wave forms. I also 
have an approach for curvilinear waveforms for the rotary table. All these are 
for CNC machines. The software is in VB script. I don't have CNC machine. My 
Legacy is the 1000ex. I don't have the capability to compile the VB script to 
produce the required G code. I put the report on the shelf about 6 years ago. I 
haven't yet but I will send a copy of the curvilinear wave report to Tim. We 
work together on wave form generations using the rotory table.
Regards,    
Ron K

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines can not 
do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to speak !)  ;-)
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtI am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will 
go into my folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard

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['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Keep on working with it Richard, you are doing a good job!  
The wave attachment, is something that is uniquely OURS, that is the LOM 
group's, No one else can easily make the same type of designs,  
Ive had wood turners ask me how I made that? even Guys with OT machines can not 
do a wave, THAT is Cool (in my book/ a feather in my cap, so to speak !)  ;-)
Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 23, 2019, 04:53:09 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtI am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will 
go into my folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard



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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Curt
I am nearly sure how I did it,, but will make sure later today. It 
certainly wasn't just by moving one hole on/in the 40 hole alloy plate.
Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:25:22 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Richard
> I like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
> neat cut!
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Well Tim you are right
> What I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of the TK   ( 
> pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the pin in 
> the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a mistake 
> like I did. All trial and error on my part. 
> The question is ---shall I be able to do it again ??
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return 
> spring to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis  
> Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Tim & others
> Here are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Curt & Bill
>  I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my folder for 
> other s who end up with my Revo
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
> Am I trying to do the impossible???
> Richard
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 RichardI like it,  I hope you are able to repeat the process again? that is a 
neat cut!
C.A.G.
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:15:38 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Well Tim you are rightWhat I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of 
the TK   ( pressing gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the 
pin in the next hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a 
mistake like I did. All trial and error on my part. The question is ---shall I 
be able to do it again ??Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 


Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will 
go into my folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard



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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

I really like that pattern Richard well done I haven’t seen that one either

 

Bill

 

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Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 8:16 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Tim & others

Here are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.

Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Thanks for the info Curt & Bill

 I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my folder for other s 
who end up with my Revo

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Well Tim you are right
What I did was to keep my finger in place on the pin of the TK   ( pressing 
gently in one direction )The cut was done, by putting the pin in the next 
hole to where it should have been.. I:E I made it make a mistake like I 
did. All trial and error on my part. 
The question is ---shall I be able to do it again ??
Richard

On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 11:44:06 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return 
> spring to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. 
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 8/22/19 3:16 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Tim & others
> Here are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the info Curt & Bill
>>  I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my folder for 
>> other s who end up with my Revo
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all you LOM experts
>>> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
>>> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>>> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch 
>>> point to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>>> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>>> Richard
>>>
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[artmarbles]

That's something I have not seen.  You might want to add a light return spring 
to prevent any loss of time issues in the extended sine wave. Sent from Samsung 
tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/22/19  3:16 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves Tim & othersHere are a couple of pics of the same bit of wood.RichardOn 
Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 8:33:28 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:Thanks for 
the info Curt & Bill I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my 
folder for other s who end up with my RevoRichardOn Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 
10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do 
a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the standard index 
gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve If I change to the 2X gear I think it 
will only give me a four inch point to point  --- I have not tried but it's my 
guess !!Am I trying to do the impossible???Richard



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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Thanks for the info Curt & Bill
 I have printed it of to study and then it will go into my folder for other 
s who end up with my Revo
Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
> Am I trying to do the impossible???
> Richard
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

Sorry everyone I know most of you don’t know what I’m saying but all will be 
clear with curts video

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 3:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Curt can you get all the lines to line up perfectly on the opposite line?  when 
you’re going to do the second wave of the DNA pattern. in your video It looks 
like the gear on the leadscrew is out a little on the second cut. I would be 
inclined to engauge the leadscrew nut and undo the duplex gear from the 
direction gears  and rotate it half a turn to the other line making sure the 
pitch gears don’t move then re-mesh and tighten again. I’m sure that’s what I 
did.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 2:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hello everyone.

 

I plan to re-do my attempt to show how I use the wave attachment, 

 

But for now this is what I do.  ((I would like to say one more thing, My way is 
how, I do it. by no means is my way the only way it can work. ))

 

 

First I set my pitch, and wave's width. (moving the pivot arm to make my 
off-set/ width of the wave.) Then I set my stops, and plan for the starting 
point.

 

Before I make my first cut I use a sharpy marker, and draw a line through the 
gears. (this line will ONLY line up when the gears are exactly where they were 
when I started my cut./ perfect alignment.)  

I make my cut. and then return the carriage to the start point. 

Now I re-align the gears/markings. once the gears are set, then I move the 
indexing plate to the next cut,  locking the pin into its hole on the indexing 
plate, and then repeating my cut...   this process goes on over and over until 
I have finished.  

 

Now if I plan to do the DnA cut for example.  I have to make two markings of 
the gears before I start.  this time the alignment of the gears has more to do 
with the indexing arm's placement,  Depending on what side of the center. "0" 
(Do-plex gears),The arc of the arm will effect the direction of the wave.  Its 
not hard to do.  And I plan to show step by step on the next attempt I make. 

My hope is that I can talk my son into filming this, perhaps this weekend? at 
this time it all depends on my, and my sons work. (The filming of this, will 
happen soon, I promise.) ;-)

 

Keep up the good work, and Please let us know how it turns out for you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:06:19 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes I agree with Bill more videos for us guys that are learning the LOM the 
better. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

You should do a video anyway curt so others watching can see how its done

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Richard

 

Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your 
placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing arm 
was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.

 

Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the position of 
the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start your cut will 
effect your cut.

 

As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will pull 
on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If you make 
your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will push.  

 

What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two colors 
of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut will be Green, 
and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything will be uniformed.

 

I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better video 
for you .  

 

Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make sure of 
the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are on.) will 
effect your wave direction.

 

I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you start . 
Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to know what 
is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday

RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

Curt can you get all the lines to line up perfectly on the opposite line?  when 
you’re going to do the second wave of the DNA pattern. in your video It looks 
like the gear on the leadscrew is out a little on the second cut. I would be 
inclined to engauge the leadscrew nut and undo the duplex gear from the 
direction gears  and rotate it half a turn to the other line making sure the 
pitch gears don’t move then re-mesh and tighten again. I’m sure that’s what I 
did.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 2:36 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hello everyone.

 

I plan to re-do my attempt to show how I use the wave attachment, 

 

But for now this is what I do.  ((I would like to say one more thing, My way is 
how, I do it. by no means is my way the only way it can work. ))

 

 

First I set my pitch, and wave's width. (moving the pivot arm to make my 
off-set/ width of the wave.) Then I set my stops, and plan for the starting 
point.

 

Before I make my first cut I use a sharpy marker, and draw a line through the 
gears. (this line will ONLY line up when the gears are exactly where they were 
when I started my cut./ perfect alignment.)  

I make my cut. and then return the carriage to the start point. 

Now I re-align the gears/markings. once the gears are set, then I move the 
indexing plate to the next cut,  locking the pin into its hole on the indexing 
plate, and then repeating my cut...   this process goes on over and over until 
I have finished.  

 

Now if I plan to do the DnA cut for example.  I have to make two markings of 
the gears before I start.  this time the alignment of the gears has more to do 
with the indexing arm's placement,  Depending on what side of the center. "0" 
(Do-plex gears),The arc of the arm will effect the direction of the wave.  Its 
not hard to do.  And I plan to show step by step on the next attempt I make. 

My hope is that I can talk my son into filming this, perhaps this weekend? at 
this time it all depends on my, and my sons work. (The filming of this, will 
happen soon, I promise.) ;-)

 

Keep up the good work, and Please let us know how it turns out for you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:06:19 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes I agree with Bill more videos for us guys that are learning the LOM the 
better. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

You should do a video anyway curt so others watching can see how its done

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Richard

 

Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your 
placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing arm 
was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.

 

Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the position of 
the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start your cut will 
effect your cut.

 

As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will pull 
on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If you make 
your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will push.  

 

What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two colors 
of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut will be Green, 
and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything will be uniformed.

 

I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better video 
for you .  

 

Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make sure of 
the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are on.) will 
effect your wave direction.

 

I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you start . 
Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to know what 
is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:25:53 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
mailto:rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Tim & Curt

The only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can see is 
because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!

I went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the handle  a 
turn out i:e 1/4 inch.

When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 cu

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello everyone.
I plan to re-do my attempt to show how I use the wave attachment, 
But for now this is what I do.  ((I would like to say one more thing, My way is 
how, I do it. by no means is my way the only way it can work. ))

First I set my pitch, and wave's width. (moving the pivot arm to make my 
off-set/ width of the wave.) Then I set my stops, and plan for the starting 
point.
Before I make my first cut I use a sharpy marker, and draw a line through the 
gears. (this line will ONLY line up when the gears are exactly where they were 
when I started my cut./ perfect alignment.)  I make my cut. and then return the 
carriage to the start point. Now I re-align the gears/markings. once the gears 
are set, then I move the indexing plate to the next cut,  locking the pin into 
its hole on the indexing plate, and then repeating my cut...   this process 
goes on over and over until I have finished.  
Now if I plan to do the DnA cut for example.  I have to make two markings of 
the gears before I start.  this time the alignment of the gears has more to do 
with the indexing arm's placement,  Depending on what side of the center. "0" 
(Do-plex gears),The arc of the arm will effect the direction of the wave.  Its 
not hard to do.  And I plan to show step by step on the next attempt I make. My 
hope is that I can talk my son into filming this, perhaps this weekend? at this 
time it all depends on my, and my sons work. (The filming of this, will happen 
soon, I promise.) ;-)
Keep up the good work, and Please let us know how it turns out for you.
C.A.G.




On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:06:19 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes I agree with Bill more videos for us guys that are learning the LOM the 
better.  
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM  wrote:


You should do a video anyway curt so others watching can see how its done

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Richard

 

Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your 
placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing arm 
was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.

 

Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the position of 
the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start your cut will 
effect your cut.

 

As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will pull 
on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If you make 
your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will push.  

 

What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two colors 
of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut will be Green, 
and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything will be uniformed.

 

I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better video 
for you .  

 

Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make sure of 
the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are on.) will 
effect your wave direction.

 

I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you start . 
Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to know what 
is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:25:53 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote: 

 

 

Tim & Curt

The only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can see is 
because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!

I went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the handle  a 
turn out i:e 1/4 inch.

When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 cuts that will be it 

Then it may go on the scrap pile again  I may even try  7 groove next time ??

Richard

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 5:19:56 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:


Hello Richard.

Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?

 

I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job ! 

if not, do you know what happened? And or Why? 

It took me a long time to figure out how to do that cut.

 

Good job. I cant wait to see more.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote: 

 

 

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:


Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 


Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long cu

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes I agree with Bill more videos for us guys that are learning the LOM the
better.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM  wrote:

> You should do a video anyway curt so others watching can see how its done
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:34 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your
> placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing
> arm was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.
>
>
>
> Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the
> position of the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start
> your cut will effect your cut.
>
>
>
> As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will
> pull on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If
> you make your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will
> push.
>
>
>
> What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two
> colors of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut
> will be Green, and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything
> will be uniformed.
>
>
>
> I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better
> video for you .
>
>
>
> Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make
> sure of the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are
> on.) will effect your wave direction.
>
>
>
> I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you
> start . Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to
> know what is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:25:53 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim & Curt
>
> The only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can see is
> because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!
>
> I went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the
> handle  a turn out i:e 1/4 inch.
>
> When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 cuts that will
> be it
>
> Then it may go on the scrap pile again  I may even try  7 groove next time
> ??
>
> Richard
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 5:19:56 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Richard.
>
> Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?
>
>
>
> I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job !
>
> if not, do you know what happened? And or Why?
>
> It took me a long time to figure out how to do that cut.
>
>
>
> Good job. I cant wait to see more.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of
> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Looks good so far
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com 
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>
>
> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>
> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of
> course only approx half of the stand height.
>
> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will
> have a straight flute between each curve,
>
> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>
> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK
> to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>
> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's
> purpose also the dimensions.
>
> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt Geo

RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

You should do a video anyway curt so others watching can see how its done

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2019 11:34 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Richard

 

Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your 
placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing arm 
was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.

 

Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the position of 
the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start your cut will 
effect your cut.

 

As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will pull 
on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If you make 
your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will push.  

 

What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two colors 
of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut will be Green, 
and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything will be uniformed.

 

I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better video 
for you .  

 

Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make sure of 
the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are on.) will 
effect your wave direction.

 

I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you start . 
Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to know what 
is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:25:53 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
mailto:rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Tim & Curt

The only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can see is 
because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!

I went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the handle  a 
turn out i:e 1/4 inch.

When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 cuts that will be it 

Then it may go on the scrap pile again  I may even try  7 groove next time ??

Richard

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 5:19:56 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Hello Richard.

Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?

 

I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job ! 

if not, do you know what happened? And or Why? 

It took me a long time to figure out how to do that cut.

 

Good job. I cant wait to see more.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis mailto:rchrd...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of putting 
a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 


Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.

  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/e0b3e7c62df30/long%20wave.JPG?part=0.1&view=1&authuser=0>
 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.%20com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmn

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Curt
Using the 40 plate index plate is quite small  I always rotate the spindle 
in the same direction . Now if I made a mistake of placing the pivot pin in 
the wrong hole How is it that one of the waves was wider and the other one 
narrower. On my wood it is on the opposite side. That is for me to find out 
. It should have been the next in line??
I only use wood from the scrap heap. No one wants anything made by me, !!! 
Rather buy stuff from China or other types of plain wood work.
The wood shown was an old 3x3 fence post put through the thicknesser
Tim I hope will put me straight I do hope no one is afraid to criticize  
that is how one learns
Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:46:40 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
> Am I trying to do the impossible???
> Richard
>

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Richard
Like I posted on the wave attachment video. Mark your gears to keep your 
placement.  Your mistake was caused when you started up due to the swing arm 
was not in syn with where you were on the other cut.
Now this is pretty neat.  depending on the gear placement and, the position of 
the pivot arm being in the same side of center when you start your cut will 
effect your cut.
As an example, On the left of center (the pivot arm, not the gears.) will pull 
on the start of your cut, and in the same placement of your gears,If you make 
your pivot arm set on the right side of center, the pivot arm will push.  
What I do when I want to make this design. is to mark the gears with two colors 
of sharpy marker. 90 deg. form each other. (as an example on cut will be Green, 
and the other will be RED.) that way when I start everything will be uniformed.
I hope this is clear to you?   If not I will see if I can make a better video 
for you .  
Mark your gear placement before you make your first cut. and then make sure of 
the placement of the pivot arm (on which side of center you are on.) will 
effect your wave direction.
I wish you luck.  Play as much as you can with your machine before you start . 
Dont waist good wood on practice parts, when it counts, you need to know what 
is happening and why. and knowing is half the battle. ;-)
C.A.G. 
On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 02:25:53 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Tim & CurtThe only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can 
see is because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!I 
went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the handle  a 
turn out i:e 1/4 inch.When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 
cuts that will be it Then it may go on the scrap pile again  I may even try  7 
groove next time ??Richard

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 5:19:56 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 Hello Richard.Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?
I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job ! if 
not, do you know what happened? And or Why? It took me a long time to figure 
out how to do that cut.
Good job. I cant wait to see more.
C.A.G. 
On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:


Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:


Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.





On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups. com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM

Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Tim & Curt
The only reason they do not start in the same place as far as I can see is 
because I disconnected the Router from the leadscrew to save my arm !!
I went up to the LOM stop each time but must have been a turn of the 
handle  a turn out i:e 1/4 inch.
When I do the rest of the straight grooves to make the 10 cuts that will be 
it 
Then it may go on the scrap pile again  I may even try  7 groove next time 
??
Richard

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 5:19:56 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Richard.
> Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?
>
> I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job ! 
> if not, do you know what happened? And or Why? 
> It took me a long time to figure out how to do that cut.
>
> Good job. I cant wait to see more.
>
> C.A.G. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
> putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Looks good so far 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>
> *Subject:* Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>  
>
> Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.
>
> It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
> course only approx half of the stand height.
>
> The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will 
> have a straight flute between each curve,
>
> Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??
>
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi Bill Tim & Curt
>
> I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK 
> to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
>
> I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's 
> purpose also the dimensions.
>
> Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what 
> you want to make?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Good morning.
>
> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>
>  
>
> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>
>  
>
> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
> cutters.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G. 
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  
> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as 
> it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>
>  
>
> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same 
> as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess 
> would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be 
> greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I 
> would try a few and report back.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups. com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>  
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
>
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>
> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>
> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>
> Richard
>
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Richard.Nice job.  Did the wave turn out as you had wanted ?
I mean, if you did planed the cuts to work that way, I say,  Awesome job ! if 
not, do you know what happened? And or Why? It took me a long time to figure 
out how to do that cut.
Good job. I cant wait to see more.
C.A.G. 
On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:54:57 PM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves
 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:


Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:


Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.





On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups. com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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[artmarbles]

You did a trick without even knowing about it.  The waves are not synchronized. 
In other words, they don't start in the same place.  TimSent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/20/19  9:54 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long 
curves Here is a pic of the curves There are five curves and I was thinking of 
putting a straight groove in between. All good practice !!On Tuesday, August 
20, 2019 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:Looks good so far  Bill From: 
legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard EllisSent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves Just 
taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.It is 38 inches 
long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of course only approx 
half of the stand height.The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance 
around the dia. but will have a straight flute between each curve,Will take 
more pics Later if time permits !!??On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM 
UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:Hi Bill Tim & CurtI will have to settle for a 4 inch 
curve When I have time to change the TK to the 2X .Need a different gear set up 
for anything longer ( Not LOM )I will update you when I take a pic of the wood 
I am using and it's purpose also the dimensions.Bit too busy at the present 
time to do much with the Revo or 900.RichardOn Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 
5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:Here is the longest pitch with a wave that 
I have done. Is this like what you want to make?C.A.G.On Sunday, August 18, 
2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:   Good morning.Richard, What router 
bit are you using? What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of 
cut you make also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of 
the work piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will 
give you different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the 
top vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.) Here are a 
few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different cutters. C.A.G. 
 On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  wrote:   
If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90. But the pitch 
how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as spirals are so 
do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be yes 2x would 
give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly interested to see, 
if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a few and report 
back. Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard EllisSent: Sunday, 18 
August 2019 7:47 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves Hi all 
you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at 
present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve If I 
change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to point  
--- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard-- You received this message because you are subscribed to 
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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

[bulkeley]

Looks good so far 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Just taken a quick pic of the basic (start ) of a coat and hat stand.

It is 38 inches long X2 inch dia. May decde to make dia smaller !!! It of 
course only approx half of the stand height.

The four inch TK curve will be spaced eqidistance around the dia. but will have 
a straight flute between each curve,

Will take more pics Later if time permits !!??

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 7:09:38 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi Bill Tim & Curt

I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK to 
the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )

I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.

Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.

Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:

Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?

C.A.G.

  
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On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
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Good morning.

Richard, What router bit are you using?

 

What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)

 

Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

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Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Bill Tim & Curt
I will have to settle for a 4 inch curve When I have time to change the TK 
to the 2X .Need a different gear set up for anything longer ( Not LOM )
I will update you when I take a pic of the wood I am using and it's purpose 
also the dimensions.
Bit too busy at the present time to do much with the Revo or 900.
Richard

On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what 
> you want to make?
> C.A.G.
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills > wrote: 
>
>
> Good morning.
> Richard, What router bit are you using?
>
> What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make 
> also makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work 
> piece and the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you 
> different looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top 
> vs cutting form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
>
> Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
> cutters.
>
> C.A.G. 
>
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 07:53:29 AM EDT,  > wrote: 
>
>
> If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as 
> it travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.
>
>  
>
> But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same 
> as spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess 
> would be yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be 
> greatly interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I 
> would try a few and report back.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
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> *Sent:* Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* TK Reciprocater long curves
>
>  
>
> Hi all you LOM experts
>
> I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present 
> with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
>
> If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point 
> to point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!
>
> Am I trying to do the impossible???
>
> Richard
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Here is the longest pitch with a wave that I have done. Is this like what you 
want to make?C.A.G.


On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 11:12:04 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Good morning.Richard, What router bit are you using?
What Tim and Bill already said are correct. but the type of cut you make also 
makes the wave look different.  depending on the diameter of the work piece and 
the cutter's size, as well as the depth of your cut will give you different 
looks. And also will the method of cutting. (Cutting for the top vs cutting 
form the side of the wood will also change the look.)
Here are a few different looks you can get with a long pitch and different 
cutters.
C.A.G. 
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If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

  

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves

  

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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RE: TK Reciprocater long curves

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If I remember correctly the wave or zigzag the biggest you can achieve as it 
travels along is around 90 degrees so virtually no degrees to 90.

 

But the pitch how long the waves are governed  by the pitch just the same as 
spirals are so do some waves at different pitches and see, so my guess would be 
yes 2x would give 4 inch  . please report how you go I would be greatly 
interested to see, if it wasn’t so dam cold here out in the shop I would try a 
few and report back.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 7:47 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves

 

Hi all you LOM experts

I am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the TK at present with the 
standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 

If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!

Am I trying to do the impossible???

Richard

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

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If you are getting 2" peaks, using the 2x would give four and the 4x gives you 
eight.  Getting to the 6 inch goal would take a 24" pitch.  Basically with the 
standard duplex gear you will get 4 peaks per pitch. If you change the duplex 
gear to 1/2 the diameter, you will get two peaks per pitch.That is what I 
recall, I'm not near a machine to prove it.Good luck.Sent from Samsung tablet
 Original message From: Richard Ellis  
Date: 8/18/19  2:46 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Subject: TK Reciprocater long curves 
Hi all you LOM expertsI am trying to do a long (approx ) 6 inch flute with the 
TK at present with the standard index gear I get a 2 inch point to point curve 
If I change to the 2X gear I think it will only give me a four inch point to 
point  --- I have not tried but it's my guess !!Am I trying to do the 
impossible???Richard



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