Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages
Rich, I am hanging on in suspense!! _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: What I do instead is a work around, I tag --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 6:04 PM Thought I might have been able to select a particular descendant line and then tag those marriages in one hit - just like you can select a descendant (or ancestor) line and tag all relevant individuals in one hit. There is no way I could go through nearly 3000 marriages one by one and identify those that belong to the line I am trying to tag. However, I have just noticed that by including a particular individual in the Scrapbook options you also have the option of including their marriage pictures as well - so I don't need to tag the marriages. However, I am having awful trouble getting the Scrapbook to display anything - it is taking an age to process, even though I have now reduced it to images for one person and his wife. May not bother with it at all unfortunately. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:43 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages How DO you tag marriages except going through the Marriage List one by one? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/18/2010 5:22 PM, Jan Roberts wrote: I understand HOW to Tag marriages � just wondering if there is a way to isolate the marriages I want to tag without going through over 2000 families one by one and deciding if they are a marriage I want tagged? Also, in the Marriage List how do you change the Tags that show � from 1, 2 3 to say, 1, 2 and 9? Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing RINs
JLB wrote Is there such a thing as empty RIN's? I thought they were entered in order as you add people. If you delete someone their RIN becomes unused until you add a new individual, and only then if you have opted to re-use abandoned RINs. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source View does not show ID of person
Dick Davis wrote In working with the Source Writer, I find that the ID of the individual is not the first part of the detail in the source view. Is this correct? If so, is this being changed at some point? By having multiple people with just a volume and number type from a birth and death certificate makes this confusing. What do you mean by the ID of the individual? The items that are included in the Source are those that are available on/in the Source material you are citing. There will be nothing on Joe Bloggs's Birth Certificate which distinguishes him from the other 3 Joe Bloggses in your Family File, except his date of birth, names of parents etc. If you wish to add the RIN or UserID you can tag it on to the name or put it in the Comment field, but you will not find a Template field for it, for the reason I have given above. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] color schemes
When Sherry suggested restarting my computer these problems also self resolved. Many things weren't working-- no .lcs files were displaying (though I have them); no other family files were available (though I have them) A new morning, a fresh start and things are back to normal. Thanks. Randy On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Tim/Support t...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Hi Randy, When you say Color schemes have disappeared. I'm going to assume you had a custom one you created ? Default Color Schemes are in the Legacy folder, called ColorSchemes. Load will bring up a dialog asking where and the name of the scheme is. If you have created one, you will need to load it from wherever you saved it to. The file names end in .lcs Tim Technical Support Millennia Corporation t...@legacyfamilytree.com Randy Clark wrote: Color schemes have disappeared. Load doesn't display them. The one I need is on my computer but Legacy won't access it. How do I make it? Thanks. Randy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export
This question can apply to labeling and/or to exporting. I am wondering if it is already possible or if it must be considered as a new requested feature for later versions of Legacy. Basic idea : Nesting levels of focus groups (just like in subroutines in scripts) that use the result of the previous focus groups as starting point. So you can make a 1st selection of persons, and then apply a 2nd selection with the persons of the 1st selection as starting point. The result of the 2nd selection must be able to include people that were not selected by the 1st selection. More in detail of what can be done in Legacy right now : a) When you want to export persons out of Legacy you can select them by name, RIN-number, descendants, ascendants, labels, and so on. b) You can also export people using several independent focus groups in one query. You could export in 1 move the family of person RIN 12345 plus all the ancestors of person 6789. If by chance someone is part of both selection criterion, then that person will only be taken once into account. c) You can export all descendant of person RIN333, and after opening this export in a new Legacy file select all people that are born before 1910. This will result in all people born before 1910 that are also descendants of person RIN333. What do I want to be able to do with the nesting feature. I want to add the family of all direct line ancestors of person 12345, and on this result i want to add a second time the family of all persons in the selection. This way I have a direct line ancestor list + 2 extra generations on the side-branches. Has anybody tried this or does anybody have ideas how to do this? Regards, Alain Derom Derval Services BVBA Belgiëlaan 29 B-2440 Geel T : +32 14 560805 F : +32 14 560815 GSM : +32 477 416542 e-mail : a...@derom.be Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export
I agree for the first level. You can indeed tag the direct ancestors in a first move. In a second move you can export all the tagged persons + spouses + children of tagged inidividuals + pranets of tagged individuals. But i haven't found a way to do further expansions. Unless there is a way to say TAG the spouses, children and parents of persons whose tag = 7 instead of EXPORT the spouses, children and parents of persons whose tag = 7 Citeren Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk: Dr. A.Derom wrote Basic idea : Nesting levels of focus groups (just like in subroutines in scripts) that use the result of the previous focus groups as starting point. So you can make a 1st selection of persons, and then apply a 2nd selection with the persons of the 1st selection as starting point. The result of the 2nd selection must be able to include people that were not selected by the 1st selection. I'm not sure that I see the need. If you have already selected a group of people by certain criteria they can be tagged. To add more people to that group, using different criteria, you need simply use Tag n = tagged as one of the criteria for making the second selection. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Regards, Alain Derom Derval Services BVBA Belgiëlaan 29 B-2440 Geel T : +32 14 560805 F : +32 14 560815 GSM : +32 477 416542 e-mail : a...@derom.be Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing RINs
Hi Robert, I cannot think of a report that you need. However, if you wish to have them with no gaps, you can export then import. Regards, Tim Rosenlof Robert Carneal USA wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Legacy to generate a report listing the RINs that are empty? Say I have: ... 4 5 6 8 9 10 ... Then the report tells me 7 is not used? Thanks. Robert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing RINs
On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:27:00 -0500, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get Legacy to generate a report listing the RINs that are empty? Say I have: ... 4 5 6 8 9 10 ... Then the report tells me 7 is not used? Robert (and others): If you have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, then tblXI contains a list of the missing RINs. You can run the following query in Access, LTools, OOBase, etc.: SELECT tblXI.DeletedID FROM tblXI ORDER BY tblXI.DeletedID If you do not have Reuse abandoned RINs turned on, you can turn it on temporarily. This will cause tblXI to be rebuilt. Then you can run the above SELECT query. When you are done you can turn off Reuse abandoned RINs. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Where to put records?
Hello,I am adding birth,marriage and death certificates and wondering where to enter the source and document.Should I enter them on the individual persons page by clicking the source icon and adding it to the preloaded birth,marriage and death source or should I create and event and add the source and document to the event ?What is the standard that others do?Thank you for the advise,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
wrote I am adding birth,marriage and death certificates and wondering where to enter the source and document.Should I enter them on the individual persons page by clicking the source icon and adding it to the preloaded birth,marriage and death source or should I create and event and add the source and document to the event ?What is the standard that others do? Exactly how people organize their Master Source and Source Details varies a lot, but I have separate Master Sources for each type of Certificate from each issuing authority. When citing one of these Certificates I will use the information as a Source for any of the fields Name, Birth, Baptised/Christened, Death, various Note fields and so on. I will then attach the scan of the document to the Source Details. I do not usually find it necessary to create a separate Event, except perhaps in the event of having an Alternate B/C/M/D date or maybe if I wanted to attach a photograph of the Event or the of the Location of the Event. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
Hi Brian, Everyone probably has their own way. I use an event for BMD and Source and cite each one. I do use SourceWriter for each. Regards, Tim Rosenlof blr...@optonline.net wrote: Hello,I am adding birth,marriage and death certificates and wondering where to enter the source and document.Should I enter them on the individual persons page by clicking the source icon and adding it to the preloaded birth,marriage and death source or should I create and event and add the source and document to the event ?What is the standard that others do?Thank you for the advise,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
blr...@optonline.net wrote: Hello,I am adding birth,marriage and death certificates and wondering where to enter the source and document.Should I enter them on the individual persons page by clicking the source icon and adding it to the preloaded birth,marriage and death source or should I create and event and add the source and document to the event ?What is the standard that others do?Thank you for the advise,Brian Lehman A source should always be added to the entry to which it refers. Since the Vital Events have their own entry points on the Individual Screen, they should be attached to those. I see no point in creating an Event other than to attach pictures, and I would not call them birth, marriage and death. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages
Oops. I thought I had cancelled the whole message. I alway test before sending and found my solution wasn't a fix. I try to walk throught any solution, so I can use the exact description for clarity. I had done something in the past, but could no re-create it, so my memory is fuzzy. Sorry. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 12:38 AM Rich, I am hanging on in suspense!! _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: What I do instead is a work around, I tag --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 6:04 PM Thought I might have been able to select a particular descendant line and then tag those marriages in one hit - just like you can select a descendant (or ancestor) line and tag all relevant individuals in one hit. There is no way I could go through nearly 3000 marriages one by one and identify those that belong to the line I am trying to tag. However, I have just noticed that by including a particular individual in the Scrapbook options you also have the option of including their marriage pictures as well - so I don't need to tag the marriages. However, I am having awful trouble getting the Scrapbook to display anything - it is taking an age to process, even though I have now reduced it to images for one person and his wife. May not bother with it at all unfortunately. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: JLB [mailto:j...@jgen.ws] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:43 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages How DO you tag marriages except going through the Marriage List one by one? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/18/2010 5:22 PM, Jan Roberts wrote: I understand HOW to Tag marriages � just wondering if there is a way to isolate the marriages I want to tag without going through over 2000 families one by one and deciding if they are a marriage I want tagged? Also, in the Marriage List how do you change the Tags that show � from 1, 2 3 to say, 1, 2 and 9? Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A simple search question
That did it! Thanks... On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:57:54 -0400, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: How do you search for anything within a field? For example, I want to search for any individual with any text in the General Notes field. The asterisk is for zero or more characters, the ? is only when a single character exists... I've experimented with all of the wildcards and can't get it to work. Try: ?* -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A simple search question
Scott, Click on Search: Click on: Detailed Search tab Look for: Individual Where to look: Notes-General How to look: Not Equal To What to look for: don't have ANYTHING showing in this box, it should visually appear blank/empty tick Clear List before this search Click on Create List This should provide a list of everyone who has something entered in their General Notes. Mary - From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com How do you search for anything within a field? For example, I want to search for any individual with any text in the General Notes field. The asterisk is for zero or more characters, the ? is only when a single character exists... I've experimented with all of the wildcards and can't get it to work. What am I misssing? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A simple search question
That works also. Now I have options! :) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Scott, Click on Search: Click on: Detailed Search tab Look for: Individual Where to look: Notes-General How to look: Not Equal To What to look for: don't have ANYTHING showing in this box, it should visually appear blank/empty tick Clear List before this search Click on Create List This should provide a list of everyone who has something entered in their General Notes. Mary - From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com How do you search for anything within a field? For example, I want to search for any individual with any text in the General Notes field. The asterisk is for zero or more characters, the ? is only when a single character exists... I've experimented with all of the wildcards and can't get it to work. What am I misssing? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export
Rich, IMO this may be of interest to some in the LUG, since the Legacy Detailed Search tab uses the AND / OR functions of Boolean logic. Perhaps others will have a different opinion. Charles -Original Message- From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export When creating a focus group that needs to be 'nested', I have occasionally created nested loops in my DB. Search the archives for Boolean logic. Might be in the old Archives. There was a discussion about this in the past. Or contact me offlist. Too technical to fill the LUG for those who don't need it. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source View does not show ID of person
Dick, You wrote: By having multiple people with just a volume and number type from a birth and death certificate makes this confusing. Perhaps I have not understood, the entire thread, but, if you are referring to the Detail Information, Item of Interest field, you can type, entry for name of individual, Death Certificate..,#. I like to type the name of the individual as it appears on the certificate. Pauline Dick Davis wrote: In working with the Source Writer, I find that the ID of the individual is not the first part of the detail in the source view. Is this correct? If so, is this being changed at some point? By having multiple people with just a volume and number type from a birth and death certificate makes this confusing. Has anyone else raised to the list? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export
I wrote a bunch on this a few years ago, and it is in the Archives, and it should still be there. I am willing to help off list for extra help. That is why I teach locally at the Suthern California Genealogical Society, and answer to anyone who asks me. Did not want to keep repeating stuff. I might write a blurb on it to store in Word file to send. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Charles Apple apple1...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Charles Apple apple1...@embarqmail.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 12:33 PM Rich, IMO this may be of interest to some in the LUG, since the Legacy Detailed Search tab uses the AND / OR functions of Boolean logic. Perhaps others will have a different opinion. Charles -Original Message- From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Nesting Focus Group to label or export When creating a focus group that needs to be 'nested', I have occasionally created nested loops in my DB. Search the archives for Boolean logic. Might be in the old Archives. There was a discussion about this in the past. Or contact me offlist. Too technical to fill the LUG for those who don't need it. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
I don’t know the answer to your question, but this couple are first cousins. Jennifer From: T Bredin [mailto:tbredinl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 5:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins.I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens?Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited - or so I thought - resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word's spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need - I'd prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous 'someone' is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Where to put records?
Thanks for the replies everyone,So I guess its more common that people add BMD sources and records by clicking the source icon to the right of the persons last name and not creating an event to add to?My problem with that is to access a birth record you have to go through and look for it in the source list instead of easy access in the event list.but then the birth date and place would be recorded twice.Thank you for further opinions,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to put records?
I wouldn't say necessarily next to the person's name. It depends what you're using the source document for. If a birth certificate is the source for the person's name then that's what the source is for. But it would also be the source document for their birth date, the parents' names, etc. You don't need to make name, birth, christening, death and burial events separately because they're already there by default. Accessing the birth record? Not sure what you mean by that. This is what I do. Step 1. Enter the information, in this instance, a birth date. Step 2. Cite the Master Source. Create a new one if it's not already there. Ohio Birth Records, 18xx-19xx, or whatever it is. Step 3. Add the Source Detail. In this case, a scanned or otherwise digitized copy of the birth certificate would go under Multimedia. i.e. it's not attached to Ohio Birth Records, it's attached to the Source Detail for that particular person. In order to view the Birth Certificate, just click on the Sources icon and then the Birth field and the Multimedia tab and there it should be. I'm talking split seconds here. Granted, clicking the S icon in an Events field might be one nano-second less. You would still have to double-click once and click again to bring that image up. And then click again if you want it larger. What's your point? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/19/2010 7:53 PM, blr...@optonline.net wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone,So I guess its more common that people add BMD sources and records by clicking the source icon to the right of the persons last name and not creating an event to add to?My problem with that is to access a birth record you have to go through and look for it in the source list instead of easy access in the event list.but then the birth date and place would be recorded twice.Thank you for further opinions,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
You are saying, if I am translating this correctly, that the children of the grandparents are full siblings to each other? In some cultures that is not illegal nor immoral, but most societies frown on it. In other societies, third cousins needed permission to marry from the 'leaders'. What do you want the computer to do? This is a possible judgement taboo, not a physically impossible one. On a documentary I saw last year it was of British couples doing this and they had formed a 'support' group. If I am reading the situation wrong, I am sorry. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 3:29 PM I don’t know the answer to your question, but this couple are first cousins. Jennifer From: T Bredin [mailto:tbredinl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 5:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins. I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens? Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
What you need to do is, edit the unknown person with a fake name, then merge fake to real. And your signature is sent in hmtl, against the rules. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: From: Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 4:17 PM I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Where to put records?
My point was,To find a source document,if I create an event for birth,in the event field,I just click on the event birth and it opens the edit event screen then I click the source icon an it opens the assigned sources,highlighting the birth entry and birth cert.If I don't create an event birth, to find the record,I need to hit the source icon and scroll/look for the birth record,in a list of many sources this can be bothersome.Don't think it really matters in nano-seconds,but I was wondering how others enter their BMD records,If there's a standard way to do this.Thank you,Brian Lehman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
Yes, Grandparents had children A and B. A is parent of the male/female of the couple you mention and B is the parent of the other. I think the main reason it is frowned on is the possibility of the couple having children with genetic problems because of the close relationship of the parents. If you Google relationship charts you will be offered several choices. Two people who are the same number of generations distant from a common ancestor are same level cousins. Consider the following rule of thumb: FIRST COUSINS share a grandparent in common. SECOND COUSINS share a great-grandparent in common. THIRD COUSINS share a great-great-grandparent in common. And so on. Jennifer From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 1:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? You are saying, if I am translating this correctly, that the children of the grandparents are full siblings to each other? In some cultures that is not illegal nor immoral, but most societies frown on it. In other societies, third cousins needed permission to marry from the 'leaders'. What do you want the computer to do? This is a possible judgement taboo, not a physically impossible one. On a documentary I saw last year it was of British couples doing this and they had formed a 'support' group. If I am reading the situation wrong, I am sorry. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 3:29 PM I don’t know the answer to your question, but this couple are first cousins. Jennifer From: T Bredin [mailto:tbredinl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 5:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins.I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens?Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
Whoa! Support group? This was a very common practice in past centuries because of the paucity of eligible marriage prospects. The royalty of Europe intermarried so often that they had to pay for dispensations. That Henry VIII couldn't buy one was so unusual that the course of history was changed. Egyptian siblings HAD to marry each other. In the USA, the high mortality rate of children together with small, isolated communities many times resulted in the children of siblings marrying each other. It was an unusual occurrence; not a practice, as it was in European and other aristocracies. CE From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? You are saying, if I am translating this correctly, that the children of the grandparents are full siblings to each other? In some cultures that is not illegal nor immoral, but most societies frown on it. In other societies, third cousins needed permission to marry from the 'leaders'. What do you want the computer to do? This is a possible judgement taboo, not a physically impossible one. On a documentary I saw last year it was of British couples doing this and they had formed a 'support' group. If I am reading the situation wrong, I am sorry. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/18/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
If A and B are siblings, then that is the relationship that is closest, and should be used. In my own family, I am my 3rd, 5th and 7th cousin to myself; but I would not call my brother my 3rd cousin, or my sister my 5th cousin. It is not inaccurate, but can be misleading. I agree the marriage of siblings can cause many medical and legal issues, but that is customs, morals, and medical. A and B chose this situation, aware of the taboo additude of society, computers and programs don't make judgement calls, people do. I do not think this is a good idea, but it is not mine to approve or disapprove. I sense you feel the same way, but ignoring and not pointing out the situation will essentialy hide the issue from all but the closest family members, who know already anyway. We can't fix anything after it happens, and rarely before. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:07 PM Yes, Grandparents had children A and B. A is parent of the male/female of the couple you mention and B is the parent of the other. I think the main reason it is frowned on is the possibility of the couple having children with genetic problems because of the close relationship of the parents. If you Google relationship charts you will be offered several choices. Two people who are the same number of generations distant from a common ancestor are same level cousins. Consider the following rule of thumb: FIRST COUSINS share a grandparent in common. SECOND COUSINS share a great-grandparent in common. THIRD COUSINS share a great-great-grandparent in common. And so on. Jennifer From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 1:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? You are saying, if I am translating this correctly, that the children of the grandparents are full siblings to each other? In some cultures that is not illegal nor immoral, but most societies frown on it. In other societies, third cousins needed permission to marry from the 'leaders'. What do you want the computer to do? This is a possible judgement taboo, not a physically impossible one. On a documentary I saw last year it was of British couples doing this and they had formed a 'support' group. If I am reading the situation wrong, I am sorry. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 3:29 PM I don’t know the answer to your question, but this couple are first cousins. Jennifer From: T Bredin [mailto:tbredinl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 5:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this? I have a married couple that share/have the same grandparents but different parents. I guess this makes them second cousins. I did not notice this when I input the data for this couple as each's data came from different sources. Later I connected them by deleting one copy of the grandparents and hooking the 'loose' children to the remaining duplicate grandparents. When doing the 'ancestor' display, the ancestor chart in V7, and the ancestor chart in Charting there is nothing to call these common grand parents to my attention as each 'ancestor' line from the married couple lead back to separate listings/boxes of the same grandparent people. (if shown, the person-id is the same for the same person at the different location in the ancestor chart. ) My question is, does anyone have a trick, or method to highlight this on reports/charts/screens? Would you expect Legacy to warn you when entering data that a 'duplicate' seems to exist? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Since my situations of changing unknowns to knowns, were solved back in L5, when I had to repair it myself. I didn't know L7 had fixed it. I in L5, removed all my unknowns, because the program installed the word unknown (in the screen only, not reports) which was what I had been wanting to have done. So, I did it the old way, and will never again put the name unknown for anyone. Let the program do field fills for the screen. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, CE Wood wood...@msn.com wrote: From: CE Wood wood...@msn.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:57 PM I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the someone when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/18/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
