Re: [LegacyUG] Question regarding finding undefined event roles

[Alan Thompson]

One way you could do this (perhaps it's the only way) is to use Microsoft 
Access to query your legacy family file database to find those records in the 
tblEX Events table that have a value in the IDRO field that does not match an 
existing IDRO value in the tblRO table (this is effectively the Master list of 
Event Roles).

It would seem that the relevant role records were somehow deleted from the 
tblRO table.

Alan Thompson
Canberra Australia

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Andrew Robbie
Sent: Friday, 27 May 2022 8:36 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** Re: Question regarding finding 
undefined event roles

OK, need to clarify, since this answer doesn't address my question (I provided 
too much context!):

Performing a File Clean/Repair reports this:
"There are Event record(s) that reference a Role that does not exist:"

Now, how do I find the Event Roles that do not exist?  This is my main question 
for the post here.

My mentioning of Shared Events is just a red herring, I can create, edit, 
delete event roles perfectly, and attach them to primary event's and shared 
events with equal gusto.

I just need some help to FIND Event Roles that are attached to Events that do 
not exist in the Event Role list (as reported by the Clean/Repair report) .

Help! and Thanks !

Andrew



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Re: [LegacyUG] List of ALL Sources for 1 individual

[Alan Thompson]

Possibly the Individual Chart Report will meet your needs. (Menu: Reports/Chart 
Reports/Individual… ) Make sure you include everything about the individual in 
the Report Options, including checking the Print Source citations under the 
Sources tab. The report is only available in pdf format but since you indicated 
that you wanted to print it out onto a sheet of paper, this should be enough.

 

Cheers

Alan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cynthia N. Russell
Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2022 4:04 AM
To: LEGACY Users Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] List of ALL Sources for 1 individual

 

Is there a way to List all of the Sources used in researching one individual? 
If so, please explain in baby steps. I just want a list of the sources for all 
of the information for my research of one individual on one sheet of paper.

 

Cynthia Russell

  fergusresearc...@gmail.com

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Re: [LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

[Alan Thompson]

Henry. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Given what you say, do you
know what is the relevant setting?

 

Cheers

Alan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
hpeterj...@cox.net
Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2021 12:42 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

 

Alan

I know that Cathy has replied already. Check your settings. I do NOT have
this problem with build .393.

Everything appears as it should when I print preview.

 

Kind Regards

Henry

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Alan
Thompson
Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>

Subject: [LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

 

Am I missing something or has there been a design change to the
format/layout of the Ancestor Book Report with the latest update (12 July
2021 - Version 9.0.0.393) of Legacy Family Tree?

 

Prior to the update, when I ran the report, by default, it would identify
the parents of each individual in the report as per the following example

 

1.  Doris Isabel Scrambler, daughter of Robert James Scrambler and
Isabella Jane Burton, was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek, Victoria,
Australia and died on 28 May 1975.

 

After the update, the report no longer includes the parents as follows:

 

1.  Doris Isabel Scrambler was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek,
Victoria, Australia and died on 28 May 1975.

 

I can find no check box option to switch between these two formats so it
seems to me this change has been hard-coded into the report design. However,
I can find nothing in the Revision History to indicate such a change as part
of the latest build.

 

My preference  would be to switch it back to the way it was, or at least
provide the user with option of which format they wish to use.

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

[Alan Thompson]

Thanks Cathy

Cheers
Alan

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2021 11:48 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

This is a known bug.

Cathy

> Alan Thompson <mailto:alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au>
> Sunday, 8 August 2021 09:42
>
> Am I missing something or has there been a design change to the 
> format/layout of the Ancestor Book Report with the latest update (12 
> July 2021 - Version 9.0.0.393) of Legacy Family Tree?
>
> Prior to the update, when I ran the report, by default, it would 
> identify the parents of each individual in the report as per the 
> following example
>
>  1. Doris Isabel Scrambler, *daughter of Robert James Scrambler and
> Isabella Jane Burton*, was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek,
> Victoria, Australia and died on 28 May 1975.
>
> After the update, the report no longer includes the parents as follows:
>
>  1. Doris Isabel Scrambler was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek,
> Victoria, Australia and died on 28 May 1975.
>
> I can find no check box option to switch between these two formats so 
> it seems to me this change has been hard-coded into the report design.
> However, I can find nothing in the Revision History to indicate such a 
> change as part of the latest build.
>
> My preference  would be to switch it back to the way it was, or at 
> least provide the user with option of which format they wish to use.
>
> Alan Thompson
>
> Canberra, Australia
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] Change to Ancestor Book Report

[Alan Thompson]

Am I missing something or has there been a design change to the
format/layout of the Ancestor Book Report with the latest update (12 July
2021 - Version 9.0.0.393) of Legacy Family Tree?

 

Prior to the update, when I ran the report, by default, it would identify
the parents of each individual in the report as per the following example

 

1.  Doris Isabel Scrambler, daughter of Robert James Scrambler and
Isabella Jane Burton, was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek, Victoria,
Australia and died on 28 May 1975.

 

After the update, the report no longer includes the parents as follows:

 

1.  Doris Isabel Scrambler was born in 1901 in Nine Mile Creek,
Victoria, Australia and died on 28 May 1975.

 

I can find no check box option to switch between these two formats so it
seems to me this change has been hard-coded into the report design. However,
I can find nothing in the Revision History to indicate such a change as part
of the latest build.

 

My preference  would be to switch it back to the way it was, or at least
provide the user with option of which format they wish to use.

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

 

 

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[LegacyUG] Managing Pictures and Photos in Legacy

[Alan Thompson]

Over the years I have linked many thousands of digitised photos to
individuals, events, and sources in Legacy and entered a separate Caption,
Date, Description and File ID for each photo, which is stored in the Legacy
database. This approach works well as long as the photos are linked to
Legacy but when the photos are separated from Legacy the information will be
lost. 

 

Accordingly, I now wish to transfer this Caption, Date, Description and File
ID information into the actual photo itself as part of each photo file´s
metadata and I was wondering if any legacy user or users know of a way to do
this without having to update the metadata of each file one by one (which
would be a very long and tedious process), for example, by using some
software that can perform this task as a batch process. It is no trouble for
me to extract the data from Legacy into a csv or txt file but so far I have
been unable to identify any photo or file management program that is able to
update file metadata by batch processing a csv or txt file or similar.

 

Hoping someone has a solution.

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Rebuild Source Citations

[Alan Thompson]

Thanks Cathy, I thought that would be the answer and I thought you would be the 
one to know  I’ll get onto it right away. However, as not one of my other 
suggestions has ever been implemented in the past, I don’t hold much hope for 
this one ☹

 

Alan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 5:02 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Rebuild Source Citations

 

Alan,

There isn't a way to turn it off. 
If you want a way, if you submit a feature request it may be considered. 
Include why it would be helpful to have the rebuild optionally delayed. See the 
icon on the Help menu in Legacy.

Cathy

Alan Thompson wrote:




Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the “Rebuild Source 
Citations” routine so that it doesn’t automatically run each time you 
import data from one Legacy family file into another. As I have over 
800,000 source citations, it takes about 15 minutes to process all 
these, even if the file I imported contains only one or two 
individuals. My preference is to import data in small batches rather 
than as one large import, so that I can verify that each batch is 
successfully imported and merged before I move on to the next one. 
Having to wait 15 minutes after every batch is very frustrating.

…or, if it can’t be done, has someone already submitted a request for 
this, eg a prompt to ask whether or not you wish to “Rebuild Source 
Citations now” once the import has completed?

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia



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[LegacyUG] Rebuild Source Citations

[Alan Thompson]

Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the "Rebuild Source
Citations" routine so that it doesn't automatically run each time you import
data from one Legacy family file into another. As I have over 800,000 source
citations, it takes about 15 minutes to process all these, even if the file
I imported contains only one or two individuals. My preference is to import
data in small batches rather than as one large import, so that I can verify
that each batch is successfully imported and merged before I move on to the
next one. Having to wait 15 minutes after every batch is very frustrating.

 

.or, if it can't be done, has someone already submitted a request for this,
eg a prompt to ask whether or not you wish to "Rebuild Source Citations now"
once the import has completed?

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not working after windows 10 updates

[Alan Thompson]

I have been having very similar problems (I reported on them to this group 8 
weeks ago)

My family file is just over 800MB and contains:

Number of Individuals: 144067
Number of Families: 44941
Master locations: 20761
Master Sources: 1245
Citations: 759965
Master events: 197212
used by individuals: 196591
used by marriages: 621
Master media items: 73894
times linked: 303918

With the latest upgrade of Windows 10 and Legacy 9, on my PC (8GB of RAM), 
Legacy runs much slower than it used to and I get a “ Run Time Error ‘3035 
System resource exceeded “ messages ALWAYS during Check-Repair and OFTEN when 
running multi-Condition search queries. While running Check Repair, Task 
manager indicates that my computers resources are being used at nowhere near 
full capacity, with or without all other non-essential programs closed and 
Security software disabled.

In Windows SAFE mode, Check Repair and the multi-Condition search queries 
always complete successfully, but Legacy still runs much slower than it used to.

With the latest upgrade of Windows 10 and Legacy 9, on my Laptop (with less 
resources, ie CPU and Memory), Check Repair and the multi-Condition search 
queries always complete successfully, but Legacy still runs much slower than it 
used to (eg check repair took 30 minutes, it used to take 3-4 minutes)

Tested going back to earlier versions of Legacy - made no difference.

Sent my full family file to Legacy support - Check Repair completed perfectly 
in about 3-4 minutes (They tested with the latest build of Windows 10). They 
said that other users had reported the same problem, but in no case had they 
been able to replicate the problem on their computers. Legacy Support stated 
that they believe that the problem is most likely a conflict with another 
program.

I also tried exporting my family file to a new Legacy database and running 
Check-Repair on that, again without success.

If I remove all source and media link records from my file (and compact my 
file), it reduces the file size to 200MB, but Check Repair still crashes at the 
same point. So, it looks like size of the family file alone, number of media 
links or number of sources, are not critical.

If I export a subset of about 50,000 persons from my tree to a new tree, then 
compact the new file, Check Repair and the multi-Condition search queries 
USUALLY complete successfully, but Legacy still runs much slower than it used 
to. This suggests to me that the number of persons in the tree may be a factor, 
but clearly not the only one.

It's hard to enjoy using Legacy under these conditions 

Alan Thompson

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From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of JV 
Leavitt
Sent: Friday, 6 December 2019 12:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not working after windows 10 updates

Thank you very much! My file is about 625 MB, so it's not over 1 GB.

I'm starting to catch on that this problem is maybe not so unexpected now, even 
for a file somewhat smaller than a gigabyte in size.

It would be nice to know if more can be found about this issue. The Legacy 
program was working fine before this latest Windows 10 version update.

Joseph Leavitt



On 12/5/2019 2:59 PM, Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
> Joyce:
>
> Is your file over 1GB in size?
>
> Peace, Loren Johns
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 05:52:57 PM EST, Joyce Herzog 
>  wrote:
>
>
> Try shutting your computer off/then on! I worked for me!
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:49 PM Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup 
>  <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>> wrote:
>
> Joe:
>
> I am not sure what qualifies as "a very large file," but mine is
> now over 1GB in size and I need to reboot in safe mode to do a
> check/repair. Running the program as administrator causes the
> program to crash.
>
> Peace, Loren Johns
> Guatemala City, Guatemala
> 
> "I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).
>
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 01:37:34 PM EST, JV Leavitt
> mailto:jleavi...@att.net>> wrote:
>
>
> After accepting the latest Windows 10 updates, my Legacy (vers 9 with
> latest update), hangs during check/repair on a very large file. I am
> able to get it to work, though, but only if I right-click on the
> Legacy
> program logo on the desktop, and select "Run as administrator."
>
> Note this, though, that I removed the latest Windows updates, just to
> get to this point, where I can get it to actually work okay, but
> only if
> I open Legacy by using the above work-around. I've already
> re-installed
> Legacy during the last few frustrating days, and used the other
> Legacy
> trouble s

[LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

[Alan Thompson]

Has anyone else had problems with the Check-Repair routine using the latest
release Legacy 9.0 Build 318.

 

I repeatedly get a " Run Time Error '3035 System resource exceeded "message
at Step 65 of 219 of Check-Repair and was wondering if anyone else was
experiencing similar.

 

I tried uninstalling Legacy and re-installing (as recommended for this error
message) and running check-repair on the same Family file but again received
the same error message.

 

I also tried exporting my family file to a new Legacy database and running
Check-Repair on that, again without success.

 

However, on a different computer (with less resources, ie CPU and Memory,
but with the same version of Windows 10 with latest updates), I ran
check-repair using Legacy Version 9.0.0.301 (ie the previous release) on the
same family files (as above) and check-repair completed successfully in both
cases.

 

Also restored a back-up of my family file taken immediately prior to
updating to Build 9.0.0.318. Running check repair on this file using Version
9.0.0.318 again failed at the same point, but successfully completed using
9.0.0.301.

 

My Family File details:

 

Number of Individuals: 143931

Number of Families: 44941

Master locations: 20761

Master Sources: 1245

Citations: 759965

Master events: 197212

used by individuals: 196591

used by marriages: 621

Master media items: 73894

times linked: 303918

 

I have reported this problem to support.

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

[Alan Thompson]

Cathy

 

Yes, I have followed all those steps. The only difference it makes is that 
initially the records processed counter gets a little bit further (ie another 
5-10,000 records) before the overflow occurs.

 

It’s no big deal since I can create my own MSAccess query whenever I need to 
generate the media records information I need. For the present, I’d rather 
Legacy’s programmer resources were allocated and dedicated to getting the big 
ticket items resolved, eg Mapping or (in the case of my submitted problem) 
Merging using Drag and Drop. But I’ll happily submit a problem report if 
someone can guarantee that this problem will be given the very lowest priority 

 

Cheers

Alan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:53 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

 

Alan,

Have you done the things in the Support article for Error 6?
<http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00206/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Error-6.html>

They might help.

Also note that Support doesn't control the order of the fixing of bugs and 
don't do the programming required. So to not contact support about an issue 
until other things are fixed makes no sense.

Cathy

Alan Thompson wrote:




No, I haven't reported it, yet. I have currently submitted higher priority (for 
me) problems that I want fixed first.

In Version 9.0.0.209, if I am interpreting the screen correctly,  there is no 
option (ie check box) to select "Source Citation Details" media for all 
individual or a selected individual. There is a "Source citation details" check 
box at the bottom of the screen but I thought that was for all source citation 
details in the family file.

If I have an individual selected and the four checkboxes within that section 
checked AND the "Source citation details" check box at the bottom of the screen 
UNCHECKED, AND all media types selected, then running the report shows the 
counter at the bottom of screen reach 221,000 (the number of media records in 
my file but then gives the message "No pictures were found for the options 
selected" even though there are media items attached to source citation details 
for that individual.

On the other hand, if I have an individual selected and the four checkboxes 
within that section checked AND the "Source citation details" check box at the 
bottom of the screen CHECKED, AND all media types selected, then running the 
report shows the counter at the bottom of screen reach about 19,000 and then 
hang until the Error 6: Overflow Message is eventually displayed.

Alan

-Original Message-< BR> From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Sherry H
Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2018 9:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

I'm not having any problems selecting "Source Citation Details" for an 
individual.

I don't have enough media files linked to test for your error - did you report 
it to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:supp...@legacyfamilytree.com> ?

Sherry



On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Alan Thompson<alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au 
<mailto:alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au> >  wrote:




Yes, "Print Media File List" would be easier - if it worked 

The two main problems I have with it are:

1. It does not allow you to select Media attached to source citation
details for a specific individual (As most of my media for an
individual is attached to the source citation detail record, this is
not very useful)

2 . For anything other than a small report, "Error 6: Overflow, error
collecting pictures occurs" (Accordingly I am not able to generate a
complete report of all my media files)

Alan Thompson
Canberra, Australia

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

[Alan Thompson]

No, I haven't reported it, yet. I have currently submitted higher priority (for 
me) problems that I want fixed first.

In Version 9.0.0.209, if I am interpreting the screen correctly,  there is no 
option (ie check box) to select "Source Citation Details" media for all 
individual or a selected individual. There is a "Source citation details" check 
box at the bottom of the screen but I thought that was for all source citation 
details in the family file.

If I have an individual selected and the four checkboxes within that section 
checked AND the "Source citation details" check box at the bottom of the screen 
UNCHECKED, AND all media types selected, then running the report shows the 
counter at the bottom of screen reach 221,000 (the number of media records in 
my file but then gives the message "No pictures were found for the options 
selected" even though there are media items attached to source citation details 
for that individual.

On the other hand, if I have an individual selected and the four checkboxes 
within that section checked AND the "Source citation details" check box at the 
bottom of the screen CHECKED, AND all media types selected, then running the 
report shows the counter at the bottom of screen reach about 19,000 and then 
hang until the Error 6: Overflow Message is eventually displayed.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry H
Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2018 9:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

I'm not having any problems selecting "Source Citation Details" for an 
individual.

I don't have enough media files linked to test for your error - did you report 
it to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com?

Sherry



On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Alan Thompson <alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au> 
wrote:
> Yes, "Print Media File List" would be easier - if it worked 
>
> The two main problems I have with it are:
>
> 1. It does not allow you to select Media attached to source citation 
> details for a specific individual (As most of my media for an 
> individual is attached to the source citation detail record, this is 
> not very useful)
>
> 2. For anything other than a small report, "Error 6: Overflow, error 
> collecting pictures occurs" (Accordingly I am not able to generate a 
> complete report of all my media files)
>
> Alan Thompson
> Canberra, Australia
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

[Alan Thompson]

Yes, "Print Media File List" would be easier - if it worked 

The two main problems I have with it are:

1. It does not allow you to select Media attached to source citation details 
for a specific individual (As most of my media for an individual is attached to 
the source citation detail record, this is not very useful)

2. For anything other than a small report, "Error 6: Overflow, error collecting 
pictures occurs" (Accordingly I am not able to generate a complete report of 
all my media files)

Alan Thompson
Canberra, Australia

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Sherry H
Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2018 7:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documents

Easier yet is to go to the VIew > Scrapbook and select the options of which 
files you want to include and click on the "Print Media File List" button.

That list is easily readable - gedcoms are gobeddly gook to most people!

Sherry


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[LegacyUG] Problems with Manual Merge in Legacy 9

[Alan Thompson]

I am encountering problems with Merging trees in Legacy 9.0.0.189 (Latest
Build) from one Legacy Tree into another using drag and drop in split screen
view and was wondering if it was a known problem or if anyone else is
experiencing the same problem.

 

The problem happens when I drag an individual (who has a wife and children
records linked) from the source file onto the matching individual in the
destination file (who does not yet have any wife and children records
linked). The wife and children are being successfully transferred to the
destination file but the children are not being displayed under the parents
in Family View because, it seems, the merge process has failed to create a
child link in the parents' marriage record for each child. This becomes
apparent when Check/Repair is run after completing the Merge routine, when a
the following message is displayed:

 

Check/Repair of Legacy Family File:
C:\Users\Acer\Documents\Family\LegacyData\Family.fdb

Date: 08-25-2017

Please check this file very carefully.

It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in
this file.

 

==

There are 1 Individual record(s) that point to parents but are missing a
Child Link:

==

 

Individual: RIN 107956, Parents' MRIN: 33962,  Fixed the
Child Link.

 

Note (1): (IMPORTANT) this only seems to be a problem when the parent's
marriage record is blank in the Source file.

Note (2): This problem occurs for all families included in the merge
criteria where the marriage record is blank. 

Note (2): this problem never occurred for me in earlier versions of Legacy.

 

I am also reporting this problem to support.

 

Thanks for your time

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

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[LegacyUG] Entering Irish Census data into Legacy 9

[Alan Thompson]

I am about to get serious about entering Irish Census data against
individuals into Legacy 9 and was seeking guidance and or alternate views
about the best way to structure the entry of this data. 

 

Up until now I have simply recorded a single "Residence" event for 1901 or
1911 as applicable for each individual and recorded the information about
them extracted from the "Household Return (Form A)" page into the Notes
field for the Event record. So far I have been undecided about what to Enter
in the Description field so currently I have been leaving that blank.

 

Now I wish to start adding in the information recorded in the "House and
Building Return (Form B1)"and "Out-Offices and Farm-Steadings Return (Form
B2)" and was wondering where others recorded this, and whether they only
recorded it for the head of the household or for all members of the
household.

 

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia 

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[LegacyUG] Check all Media Files - lf.jpg file constantly reported as Missing (Legacy 9)

[Alan Thompson]

When I run the Check All Media Locations routine to make a list of all
missing medial files, the resulting report always includes the default
lf.jpg file which Legacy automatically associates with any non-picture
document (eg pdfs etc) linked to one's tree 

 

Does anyone know if there is any way to exclude this file from the report?
The reason I ask is because, of the approximately 10,000 files that are
listed when I run the report for my legacy family tree, some 9,800 are for
this one file - and it is annoying to have to manually remove them from the
report before I investigate the files that are genuinely missing.

 

Thanks

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

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RE: [LegacyUG] Test All Media Folders

[Alan Thompson]

Have you tried doing a File Maintenance/Check/Repair?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 12:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Test All Media Folders

Dave - Have you check in the source and the source detail?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair Steps

[Alan Thompson]

Sherry

I expected as much but thought I'd give it a try anyway. Because I load and 
manipulate large amounts of data directly to the database using Microsoft 
Access rather than the Legacy front end program, I thought it would be useful 
to know all the things the check/repair routine already checks for so that I 
can make sure that my own data upload and manipulation routines are consistent 
with these. I already know some of the things it checks for as a result of 
mistakes I have made when uploading data in the past, and have needed to 
restore a backup as a result. I run check/repair at least once every day and 
after each data upload or data manipulation routine when doing these so it is a 
feature of the Legacy program that I very much rely on and appreciate.

Thanks
Alan Thompson

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From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 11:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair Steps

Patsy,

This is the American Legacy User Group and the programmers don't monitor it, 
but the staff does.

We don't have a clue what the steps are either. Just as with other programming 
code, I suppose the programmers don't consider this something that any of us 
really need to know beyond what's in the Help file under File: Maintenance  
Check and Repair Family File.

Alan, my steps go by so fast I don't even see all the numbers! Patsy's 
suggestion to regularly run Check/Repair is an excellent one, especially if you 
are doing a lot of work in the file.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Patsy Daly patsyspaddo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alan,

 All I know – having deemed that it is all I need to know – is that
 File Maintenance relates to maintaining the underlying actual files
 that comprise my family file as I see it. I don’t know what the actual
 steps are and it would be wrong of my to speculate. The best place to
 find out is to ask your question on the American Legacy Users Group
 mailing list which is monitored by the Millenia programmers. Join this
 group by going to www.legacyfamilytree.com and Help Centre and User Groups.

 I do know that if I run File Maintenance regularly as suggested by the
 programmers then it doesn’t take so long. Something like defragging my
 hard drive.



 Regards

 Patsy Daly



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 Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2015 4:35 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/Repair Steps

 Hello

 Does anyone know what each of the 172 Steps in the File Maintenance
 Check/Repair routine are or is that a secret?

 I am interested in knowing this because it might suggest why this
 routine generally takes a lot more time over Steps 88 and 89 than any other 
 steps.




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[LegacyUG] Check/Repair Steps

[Alan Thompson]

Hello



Does anyone know what each of the 172 Steps in the File Maintenance
Check/Repair routine are or is that a secret?



I am interested in knowing this because it might suggest why this routine
generally takes a lot more time over Steps 88 and 89 than any other steps.



Thank you

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[LegacyUG] Suggested Improvements to Chronology View in Legacy Version 8 Deluxe Edition

[Alan Thompson]

Greetings



I am currently reviewing the Chronology Tab in Legacy Version 8.0.0.439
Deluxe Edition and seek feedback on some suggested improvements I have,
prior to submitting them:



1.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the text displayed in
the Info column for son and daughters birth events, the text specifying the
parents of the child should include a space on either side of the and ie
it currently displays, for example,  son of Thomas NorrisandJane Lambert.
Rather than son of Thomas Norris and Jane Lambert. (both Report Style and
List Style and the Report itself)



2.   In the Event column, the event labels Son Born and Daughter born
should be changed to Birth of Son and Birth of Daughter to be consistent
with other Birth of. event labels (both Report Style and List Style and
the Report itself)



3.   In the Event column, the event label Death of Child should be
changed to Death of Son or Death of Daughter as appropriate to be
consistent with separate identification of Son and daughter birth event
labels (both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)



4.   I would like the option to include the Events Marriage of Son and
Marriage of Daughter in the Chronology view (both Report Style and List
Style and the Report itself)



5.   (this probably should be classed as a bug) In the Display
Options. dialogue screen, Include tab, Marriage Events Section, the
check box Death of Husband should be relabelled Death of Spouse



6.   The order of columns should, as a minimum, be made consistent
between Report Style and List Style Views (currently event and date columns
are swapped around between views). Ideally, the ability for the user to
select their own preferred Column order would be best, but short of that, I
think the following order the next best solution: Date Age Event
Info (both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)



7.   In the Age column, the displayed age should be Right Justified
(both Report Style and List Style and the Report itself)



8.   In the Date column, when the Display dates with year first
checkbox is Unchecked, the displayed date should be Right Justified so
that the years of all events align to maximum extent possible (both Report
Style and List Style and the Report itself)



9.   I would prefer the tilde ~ character to be removed from the
calculated ages in the Age Columns (both Report Style and List Style and the
Report itself). That the age may be an approximation based on a calculation
can be implied from the dates recorded and hence the ~ is somewhat
redundant.



10.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the
Chronology view and then open the Edit Event dialog box. After viewing
editing the event and closing the Edit Event dialog, the user would return
to an updated Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be
similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on
ancestry.com, which I like.)



11.   Include the ability to select a specific event displayed within the
Chronology view and then open the Assigned Sources dialog box to display
the assigned sources for the selected event. After viewing or editing the
assigned sources and closing the Assigned Sources dialog, the user would
return to the Chronology View (List Style only) (This functionality would be
similar to that available in the Timeline section of the Overview tab on
ancestry.com, which I like.)



For your consideration



Cheers

Alan Thompson






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[LegacyUG] Fonts for Labels in Family View: Possible Bug in Version 8.0.0.439

[Alan Thompson]

Greetings



Unless I am missing something I think there is a bug in Legacy Version 8.0
which I would like others to confirm before I log a problem report. I am
currently testing Version 8.0.0.439 Standard Edition.



I attempted to change the Font by which labels are displayed in the Family
View from the default Ariel font to Times New Roman, by following the
following path:



Options / Customise / 10. Fonts / 10.1 Screen Fonts (gbl) / Labels / Change:
(select: Times New Roman) / Save



I then returned to Family View where I find: Labels for Husband and Wife
have changed to Times New Roman (including their Born, Chr, Died,
Bur labels etc), but the Parents Marriage and Children Labels remain
unchanged (as the Ariel default)



I note that the labels that failed to change are those labels that were not
included in the Legacy Version 7.5 Family View, while those that do get
updated already existed in the 7.5 Version. Maybe this could indicate the
reason why there is a problem.



Cheers

Alan








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RE: [LegacyUG] Changing the Default Image for Documents attached to the Media Gallery (Legacy 7.5)

[Alan Thompson]

Sorry Jay (and anyone else I may have misled)



What I am seeking is a way to change the displayed image associated with an 
attached document, on a document by document basis, rather than a universal 
change to the single default image.



Alan



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Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2014 4:25 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Changing the Default Image for Documents attached to 
the Media Gallery (Legacy 7.5)



In Ver 7.5



In your main Legacy Folder  look for the jpg. called lv.jpg and rename that to 
something else.

Then add whatever image you want to use into that same folder and name it lv.jpg





On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Alan Thompson alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au 
wrote:

Does anyone know if it is possible to permanently change the (very unattactive) 
default image that is displayed in the Media Gallery dialog in Legacy 7.5 for 
any pdf or Microsoft Word files that have been attached using the “File“ button 
(as distinct from the “Picture“ button)?

I would like to be able to display various different images to this default 
image for different classes of attached document, or even a different image 
associated with each individual document in some cases. This would make the 
(type of) document attached more immediately recognisable.

I could find no way within the Legacy application itself to change the default 
image for selected documents

Using a document attached to a Source Detail record as a test, I found that it 
was possible using Microsoft Access to manually change the values stored in the 
PicName and and IDBPPic fields and for the new image to be displayed in the 
Assigned Sources screen and the Media tab of the Source Detail screen. However, 
the new image was not displayed in the Media Gallery screen accessed from the 
Source Detail screen. Also, as soon as I clicked on the Close button and 
returned back to the Source Detail Screen, the displayed image immediately 
reverted back to the default If.jpg image. On the other hand, if I clicked on 
the Cancel button the new new image was retained in the Source Detail and 
Assigned Sources Screens. I also noted that the action of clicking on the Close 
button in the Media Gallery screen actually deleted the existing record within 
the tblBR table and created a new replacement record with the PicName field 
updated to If.jpg and the IDBPPic field updated to 1, all other details 
unchanged.

I would really like it if there was a way to get this functionality into 
Legacy, even if it requires a programming change which I can‘t imagine would be 
very difficult.

What do others think and does anyone know if Legacy 8.0 behaves in the same way?




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[LegacyUG] Changing the Default Image for Documents attached to the Media Gallery (Legacy 7.5)

[Alan Thompson]

Does anyone know if it is possible to permanently change the (very
unattactive) default image that is displayed in the Media Gallery dialog in
Legacy 7.5 for any pdf or Microsoft Word files that have been attached using
the File button (as distinct from the Picture button)?



I would like to be able to display various different images to this default
image for different classes of attached document, or even a different image
associated with each individual document in some cases. This would make the
(type of) document attached more immediately recognisable.



I have noticed that in the tblBR table, all such document records have:



the default image filename If.jpg stored in the PicName field,

the path ID to the default image is stored inthe IDBPPic field,

a value of 3 is stored in the PicType field (not sure what this value
represents and would like to know),

the filename of the actual document is stored in the PicSoundName field, and

the path ID to the actual document is stored in the IDBPSound field



I could find no way within the Legacy application itself to change the
default image for selected documents



Using a document attached to a Source Detail record as a test, I found that
it was possible using Microsoft Access to manually change the values stored
in the PicName and and IDBPPic fields and for the new image to be displayed
in the Assigned Sources screen and the Media tab of the Source Detail
screen. However, the new image was not displayed in the Media Gallery screen
accessed from the Source Detail screen. Also, as soon as I clicked on the
Close button and returned back to the Source Detail Screen, the displayed
image immediately reverted back to the default If.jpg image. On the other
hand, if I clicked on the Cancel button the new new image was retained in
the Source Detail and Assigned Sources Screens. I also noted that the action
of clicking on the Close button in the Media Gallery screen actually deleted
the existing record within the tblBR table and created a new replacement
record with the PicName field updated to If.jpg and the IDBPPic field
updated to 1, all other details unchanged.



I would really like it if there was a way to get this functionality into
Legacy, even if it requires a programming change which I can't imagine would
be very difficult.



What do others think and does anyone know if Legacy 8.0 behaves in the same
way?



Thank you



Alan






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[LegacyUG] Recording Australian Land Selection Records in Legacy

[Alan Thompson]

Hi



I am interested in the views of Legacy Users researching Australian families
on possible ways to record within Legacy the information extracted from
Australian Land Selection Records, with particular focus on Victorian Land
Selections. For example do users create a separate new Land Selection
event/fact or use the existing Land event/fact. Also, do users have just a
single event/fact to cover the entire Land Selection process from original
application to final ownership of the land or do they create a separate
event/fact for each milestone along the way.



Finally, I would be interested in views on how best to record the Master
Source and Source Detail information for the documents within a Victorian
Land Selection File held by the Public Records Office of Victoria, in
particular those in Series VPRS 625 and VPRS 626 (Land Selection Files,
sections 19 and 20, Land Act 1869).



Thank you

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RE: [LegacyUG] File ID's

[Alan Thompson]

Kathy



For you information, the “1,7884::30370810” number, and its like, typically 
come from a gedcom file exported from an ancestry.com family tree. This number 
is ancestry’s way of linking an individual’s event in an ancestry family tree 
to the source record in ancestry.com’s databases. The “7884” represents the 
particular database (in this case the 1910 United States Federal Census) and 
the number after the :: represents the individual record within that database. 
When you export a gedcom from ancestry.com the record will look something like 
this:



1 RESI

2 DATE 1963

2 PLAC Mooroopna North, Victoria, Australia

2 SOUR @S-411220237@

3 _APID 1,1207::90856601



When you then import that record into Legacy, Legacy places the _APID number 
into the FilingRef field in the tblSX (Source Detail) table which is then 
displayed as theFile ID in the Source Detail Screen.



Interestingly, and usefully (at least for me), if you export a gedcom file from 
Legacy which contains these _APID numbers in the FilingRef field, and then 
import that gedcom (after some minimal and simple manual editing) into a family 
tree in ancestry.com, ancestry will automatically re-establish the links to the 
relevant source database and individual record.



I hope this helps.



Alan Thompson







From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 6:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File ID's



yes - every single File ID is along the lines of 1,7884::30370810 - with 
different numbers after the 1,
it makes no sense, I have no files with those or similar names




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RE: [LegacyUG] File ID's

[Alan Thompson]

Pres,

I'm still working with Legacy 7.5 (perhaps, I should have mentioned that in my 
original post), so I don't know if Legacy 8 processes gedcoms from ancestry.com 
any differently.

Whenever I do an Import from GEDCOM file (File Import from  GEDCOM file...) 
I always import the data into a NEW Legacy family file, and after choosing the 
file to import and clicking the Start the Import button, I always click on 
the Don't Assign a Source button on the AutoSource Reminder screen that is 
then displayed. Using this process I never get any message saying that all 
sources will be stripped out or anything similar. I'm not sure if selecting 
different options would result in such a message.

I hope this helps

Cheers
Alan

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Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 3:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File ID's


Alan,

When I tried to import an Ancestry gedcom into Legacy 7.5, it was 
indicated that all sources would be stripped out.  Is that still the case with 
L8?

Pres
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RE: [LegacyUG] Clear Imported Tags

[Alan Thompson]

Thanks Mike - that answers my first question.

Am I right in assuming from your silence on questions 2 and 3 that there is no 
way within the Legacy application itself to clear the imported tag for specific 
or selected individuals and that if I want to do this I will need to edit 
records directly within the .fdb database using Microsoft Access?

Regards
Alan Thompson



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Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 7:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clear Imported Tags

On 2014/01/04 00:09, Alan Thompson wrote:

 As I can find no explanation in Legacy Help or the LUG archives about
 “imported tags” can someone please tell me:

 1.how I can either view the imported tag for an individual or produce
 a list (either by report or search query) of those individuals tagged as 
 imported.

 2.Whether it is possible to clear the imported tag for specific or
 selected individuals rather than for all individuals, and

 3.how best to make use of the “Clear Imported Tags” tool, ie when it
 is appropriate to clear imported tags for all individuals

The Imported Tag is a marker on an Individual that identifies that the 
Individual was created by importing the details into the family file. This 
distinguishes those individuals from the rest who were no doubt created 
directly by you using Add New Individual (of one variety or other).

If you want to find them all, use the Search function.

Look for: Individual
Where to look: Imported
How to look: Equal to
What to look for: YES

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Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] When to use est and when to use abt

[Alan Thompson]

Without wishing to flog a dead horse, I humbly suggest that this whole brouhaha 
stems from a failure to distinguish between HOW a particular date for an event 
determined and the LEVEL OF PRECISION of the event date. For me:

CAL(culated) and EST(imated) and the like would seem to indicate HOW (the 
method by which) a date was determined and on their own indicate nothing about 
the LEVEL OF PRECISION of that date.
AB(ou)T, CIR(ca), and the like indicate the LEVEL OF PRECISION of a given date 
and on their own indicate nothing about HOW that date was determined.

Thus 15-Mar-1931, Mar-1931, 1931, ABT 15-Mar-1931, ABT Mar-1931, ABT 1931 
represent dates with different levels of precision, but each and all of those 
dates could have been determined by calculation, estimation, direct evidence 
based on one or more sources of information, etc.

Accordingly, I only enter dates into the date field that show the level of 
precision of the event date. I use ABT, BEF(ore), AFT(er), etc if my method of 
determining the date does not allow me to be more precise. I would never enter 
CAL or EST or anything that indicated how a date was determined into the date 
field itself. I record how that date and its level of precision was derived 
(calculated, estimated, guessed, directly sourced or otherwise) in the event 
notes and source detail comments and also indicate the surety level thereof, as 
appropriate.

Regards
Alan Thompson




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[LegacyUG] Clear Imported Tags

[Alan Thompson]

In Legacy 7.5.0.278, the Tools menu includes a Clear Imported Tags. item
which when selected asks: Would you like to remove the imported tag from
all imported individuals?



As I can find no explanation in Legacy Help or the LUG archives about
imported tags can someone please tell me:



1.   how I can either view the imported tag for an individual or produce
a list (either by report or search query) of those individuals tagged as
imported.

2.   Whether it is possible to clear the imported tag for specific or
selected individuals rather than for all individuals, and

3.   how best to make use of the Clear Imported Tags tool, ie when it
is appropriate to clear imported tags for all individuals



Thanks

Alan Thompson








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RE: [LegacyUG] PicNameURL field

[Alan Thompson]

Thanks Richard and Jay

Not the answer I was hoping for but sort of the answer I was expecting. For me, 
even if it was included as a simple editable text field without the actual 
hyperlink functionality, which you could then cut and paste into your web 
browser, it would still be an advance. At the moment I have resorted to storing 
the hyperlink in the Source Detail comments field and Picture Description 
fields.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 2:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PicNameURL field

I agree that they are likely there waiting for the dreamers to find a way to 
use them.
PicNameURL and PicSoundNameURL are totally vacant fields in over
14,000 records in my database. If and when they are used it will be a big 
advance.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova


On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree
1familytree@gmail.com wrote:
 Alan,

 Someone else may have a better answer for you on this one.
 It may be that the field is there but that it's not yet in use by the
 current version of Legacy.

 Jay


 On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Alan Thompson
 alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au wrote:

 Thanks Jay



 That does help but it raises the questions:  where in the Legacy front end
 application



 (1)does one input the url that is to be stored in thPicNameURL field?

 (2)does one access the url and so connect to the picture, video, or
 document referenced by the url?



 Thanks

 Alan Thompson



 From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, 8 March 2013 4:41 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] PicNameURL field



 Alan,

 From the notes I have that field was added in ver 7 for

 PicNameURLText255

 full url to a picture, video or document on the internet





 Hope that helps.

 Jay



 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Alan Thompson
 alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au wrote:

 I know I may be delving into places where it's not safe to go but can
 anyone tell me what the PicNameURL field in the tblBR table of the .fdb
 database is used for?

 Thank you
 Alan Thompson




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[LegacyUG] PicNameURL field

[Alan Thompson]

I know I may be delving into places where it's not safe to go but can anyone 
tell me what the PicNameURL field in the tblBR table of the .fdb database is 
used for?

Thank you
Alan Thompson




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RE: [LegacyUG] Tool to add missing period after an initial in a name

[Alan Thompson]

Thank you to Brian and the two Rons for your suggestions. I went with the 26 
search and replaces option from within Legacy and it actually turned out to be 
pretty quick and painless after all.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2013 2:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tool to add missing period after an initial in a name

There is no tool but search  Search and Replace should be able to do the job 
if you search for each of the 26 letters followed by a space, Use the option to 
find whole word only so you do not find names ending with the search letter. If 
all your initials follow a full name you can search for spaceletterspace as the 
word.

Replace the found letter with the letter and a period.

You can also edit the person from the potential problem list to fix their 
initials without periods. Not too useful for you with thousands to do but for 
those who only have a few that may be a quicker alternative than 26 search and 
replace operations.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 16-Feb-13 08:02, Alan Thompson wrote:
 Hi

 I note that the Potential Problem report can be run to identify a
 standardisation problem of no period after an initial in a name but
 is there a tool or simple method which allows one to correct this
 problem for all records in a Legacy family file.

 I have just imported a gedcom file which contains thousands of records
 with this problem and I would prefer not to have to correct them one
 by one. I searched Help but could not find an answer.

 Thank you

 Alan



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