Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox
Lavern Hall wrote: Thank you all for your comments. Sorry for the delay in responding. I have learned quite a bit about syncing and find that my concept of what syncing is was incorrect so what I was trying to do would never work. This was my first attempt at making two computers sync and I thought I could just make updates on my main computer (my case, my laptop) and those updates automatically take place on another computer; I didn't realize the steps needed to select the same file, unzip and restoring it were all part of the process. So, what I've been busy doing after reading your comments is going through the process a couple of times to see how it works. Here's what I did: My laptop (8.1) has my working file on it. I opened Legacy by clicking on the Legacy icon, then I put in some dummy changes, then saved/backed up the file to Dropbox. Next, I went to my computer (win XP). I clicked on the small Dropbox icon and it showed that the files were all Up to Date, so I clicked on the name of the zipped file (the one I had just made dummy updates on and backed up to Dropbox). That action took me to a screen that showed the file folders and to the left of the list under Folder Tasks - I clicked on Extract All Files. That done, the correct file was there with the green check mark next to it, so I clicked on the file and it opened in Legacy-- and there were all of the dummy updatesI had made! I closed the program and went back to my laptop where I opened Legacy and restored the working file. Now, I *believe* I understand the process, but I'd so appreciate having someone verify that fact. :-) Lavern Hall Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp I wish you would use a larger type. On my machine it comes out almost too small to read - I can with a magnifying glass. Elizabeth Cunningham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to legacyusergroup mailing list
MikeFry wrote: On 13 Oct 2014 23:38, lhbrig...@earthlink.net wrote: I apologize for this automatic reply to your email. To control spam, I now allow incoming messages only from senders I have approved beforehand. If you would like to be added to my list of approved senders, please fill out the short request form (see link below). Once I approve you, I will receive your original message in my inbox. You do not need to resend your message. I apologize for this one-time inconvenience. I hope that this idiot is removed from the list. What request form? I did not see one. Elizabeth Cunningham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar - Heritage Collector
A lot of pictures were taken by my father, who died in 1948, so I presume I can just use them. What do I do with pictures taken between 1910 and 1917, obviously by a professional, but on which there are no markings indicating who? Most in Phillipsburg, NJ. And what about a picture of my father on his 1923 high school football team? I have no idea who took it, and do not know how to get hold of the Yearbook it appeared in. Or am I worrying too much? Elizabeth C Ron Ferguson wrote: Syble, Copyright of photos always belongs to the photographer unless assigned by him/her. However, one must be very careful when adding photos to sites such as those which you mention. It is essential to read carefully the detailed terms and conditions to ensure that they are not being given a free license to do as they wish with any pics. The onus is on the copyright holder. To be clear I am making no adverse comments about the companies to which you refer, as I have not read their terms of trade. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, I don't have a problem with anyone using my photos in the own genealogy database as long as they or anyone they share it with does not put it online. I really don't know how to put a watermark on the photo, but I have gone back and added a copyright to them or Private Photo provided by whoever has given me the photo, this is very time consuming and I'm not finished. A perfect example happened last week, I rec'd a call from a fellow researcher about 2000 miles away, from my dad's mom's side that has provided me with a lot of information which I've sourced as his research. He'd come across an ancestry.com tree that had information about our family that he'd not found, nor had I, as he and I searched through this particular tree, it was a mess, too many errors to correct, the tree was started by someone related to my mother's side of the family, but had taken upon themselves to add my dad's side including his mom's side including many generations, and a lot of photos originally provided to me by this caller was on this ancestry.com tree.. Since I don't have an ancestry tree, I don't know exactly how it works, but upon contacting this lady she had no idea where the information came from, she'd gotten it from other trees she said, and she had a 1880 census record attached to this person whom she had as having died in 1874.My fellow researcher left some comments noting the tree had lots of errors, but looks like several others have already copied and added to their tree. I've contacted ancestry.com in the past and continually pursued until I got some things removed, but in my opinion, they actually encourage this to have bigger numbers. I am EXTREMELY disappointed that Legacy or Family Search maybe be doing this also. Syble *From:* Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:14 AM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar - Heritage Collector Syble, if like the rest of us who photograph sites for findagrave and other FREE online sites, you don't mind if people use the pics for their own (not charging) use. It seems to me that putting these photos in their trees is OK - a credit would be nice! I would use a watermark if I had a photoprogram I knew how to do that in G Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com wrote: I noticed that he demonstrated how you could take/steal a photo from a Family Tree on the Family Search website and drag it into this Heritage Collector software on your computer. I would think this is illegal, I've had numerous photos taken from my website and from where I've posted on findagrave.com http://findagrave.com/ then they are added the ancestry.com http://ancestry.com/ trees which is clearly against Findagrave and Ancestry's rules and I would certainly hope against the rules of Family Search. Those of us that spend hours either walking cemeteries taking tombstone photos, contacting relatives and requesting photos from them, restoring old photos or paying others to restore them are highly offended that others take this so lightly. People that take these, rarely source where the photo came from, then they are passed from tree to tree and some even attached to the wrong person with incorrect information. I hope this situation will be address properly from Legacy, Heritage Collector and from Family Search. Syble Legacy User Group
Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC
Not to mention street addresses. Almost all my relatives lived in Philadelphia, and street addresses are essential. I have one grandfather who moved his family at least 15 times in less than 20 years. Without street addresses I am lost. Elizabeth C John S. Adams wrote: Many locations in the U.S. don't fit into the 4 field convention, including: New York City, Kings County (Borough of Brooklyn), New York, USA New York City, New York County (Borough of Manhattan), New York, USA New York City, Queens County (Borough of Queens), New York, USA New York City, Bronx County (Borough of The Bronx), New York, USA New York City, Richmond County (Borough of Staten Island), New York, USA The City and County of San Francisco, California, USA Saint Louis, Missouri, USA (independent city, no county) and numerous independent cities in Virginia John S. Adams Ventura, CA Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 00:12:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC From: pph...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Great idea, Elizabeth, thank you!! JLB, How do you handle it when you've got something like London, which I think is in more than one county? I've got some London, Middlesex County locations. I think part of Middlesex is outside of London. Also, as in the US, I imagine some Middlesex County locations have a London address even though they're outside the corporate limits of London. Pat On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com mailto:elizhg...@gmail.com wrote: Richmond (Independent city) Virginia G Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Duplicate family
Trying to find out something, the other day I went from my husband to his father, then his grandfather. Coming back, I wound up with his father having only one son - my husband's brother. I added my husband, and was told he was included with another family. I have discovered that my father-in-law's family is entered twice, somehow. How do I get rid of the extra family? How do I make sure I am getting rid of the right extra family? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate family
My father-in-law was only married once. So I have to try Mike's solution if I can figure out how to do it. Elizabeth Brian/Support wrote: Mike, Your solution will only work where the father-in-law is entered twice and has two different RINs. In Elizabeth's case the father-in-law has only one RIN but two marriages. Elizabeth, Go to your father-in-laws family page Check to see if this is the one with only your husband, or the one with all the children Look at the spouse icon for him There should be a small 2 on the icon indicating he has two wives Click on the marriage information line to open the current marriage Note the MRIN number in the top of the screen beside the screen title Cancel to close the marriage screen Click on the icon to open the marriage list There are two possibilities a. one of the wives has no name while the other has the correct wife. In this case select the one with the nameless wife and use the unlink button to remove the marriage link b. both wives have the same name In this case you will have to select one of the marriages and ensure that it is the one where only your husband is the child. Right click on the marriage information line for this family and select remove the marriage link. A warning screen will appear showing the children and saying that they will be unlinked from any parents Ignore the warning since your husband will still be linked to the other marriage Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 03/07/2012 07:51, Mike Fry wrote: On 2012/07/03 11:37, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote: How do I get rid of the extra family? How do I make sure I am getting rid of the right extra family? What I'd do is use the Manual Merge facility to a) Merge the two father-in-laws and create a single family b) Merge the two resultant wives (if there are two) c) Merge any duplicates amongst the children Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate family
First off, how do I get the RIN or MRIN to show up on a family page? Second, Father-in-law and Mother-in-law are only listed once in the name list, with 1 RIN each. When I click on the list to show immediate family, two complete sets show up. Since RIN's do not show up in the immediate family list, I cannot tell if there are duplicates. Now what do I try? (Does it matter that I am using Legacy 6?) Elizabeth C Brian/Support wrote: He may only have been married once but does Legacy only have one spouse for him. I think when you look at Legacy you will see that you have accidentally created two marriages. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 03/07/2012 14:06, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote: My father-in-law was only married once. So I have to try Mike's solution if I can figure out how to do it. Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Facts
I have a great-grandmother reported to be 20 years older than her husband (and so the death certificate proved.) However, she seems to have lost 10 or more years every census. Elizabeth C Ron Ferguson wrote: Paula, The probable year of birth when calculated from a census is not necessarily that given in, say, Ancestry’s index. Consider the English Census which is usually taken around the end of March of the census year. If in 1911 the age of someone at the time of the census is 50, then Ancestry will give the year of birth as 1861 (1911-50). I would suggest that this is wrong because the actual dob lies between 1 Apr 1860 and 31 Mar 1861, so there is a 75% chance that the actual year of birth is 1860, which is the year I would use. However, having said that, the census ages of the English seem to be rather like Easter – a moveable feast – so at the end of the day I doubt if it makes much difference. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ *From:* Paula Ryburn mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 4:33 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Facts Thanks, Connie, for all this detail. I run into this calculating the best date based on multiple somewhat conflicting sources issue a lot and appreciate your insights. To the OP: Sometimes the age on census is a year different just because of the date the census was taken, at least I've found that to be the case with some of my ancestors. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams *From:* Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Wed, August 17, 2011 4:14:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Facts It is perfectly acceptable to use the best source for a fact. For example, if I have an original marriage record, I cite that for the date and location of a marriage, rather than a book of compiled marriage records. Or, if I've been to a cemetery and saw a tombstone with my own eyes, I cite that for the date of death and place of burial, rather than a book of cemetery inscriptions or FindAGrave. I cite the derivative sources (sometimes called secondary sources) only until I've found the original source (sometimes called primary source). The example you gave is a bit more complicated, however, because it involves conflicting evidence, not just original vs. derivative sources. For a date of arrival/immigration event, I would cite the steamship arrival records (assuming they are originals, or images of originals) and related immigration records, not the census. However, I would still have a census or residence event, and I would cite the census for that. In my transcription of the census, I would transcribe it exactly, and probably make a separate note or source detail comment that I know the date of immigration in the census record is wrong because of the passenger list. This assumes that you're certain there wasn't a second person of the same name who arrived on a different date. I am of the firm belief that no genealogy program is the only tool one can or should use in genealogy. For more complicated situations, I write a separate detailed research report, proof summary, or proof argument in a word processing program, with tables, charts, and proper source citations. Then, I cite that document in my database, with a brief summary and link to the document. For example, I have this summary in Legacy: John Doe could have been born as early as Jun 1807 or as late as 1 Jun 1815. Based upon currently available data, however, the most likely range for his birth is about 1811 to 1812. This seems to be the most frequently calculated date, and is consistent with the ages recorded in the earliest available documents. Only one record, the 1900 census, explicitly states a birth year (1809), but given his advanced age, his illiteracy, and the fact that he was an inmate of the county poor farm, it is probably not as credible as the ages recorded in earlier census records. I entered his birth as Abt 1811-1812, and my source citation for his birth date reads: Solomon Morgan Age Data, report prepared by Connie Sheets, (address), 10 Feb 2011; compiled from ages stated in obituary, state, and federal census records. Because the obituary, state, and federal census records are entered, transcribed and cited in Legacy as separate events, and because my Word document also contains detailed source citations, I don't see the need to cite them again for his birth
Re: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file
My ancestors were all very poor, and most lived below the radar. With my father's family, I feel lucky to have gotten to 1850 in one line. In my mother's it is easier. Her mother was from a group of Bucks County people who actually owned land. I can get my father's mother to a ship manifest, and that is it. Good for all those people who can go back farther, but a lot of us cannot. I feel very lucky to have 1200. Elizabeth C Jan Roberts wrote: I always wonder how people who claim links way way back have managed to actually make the link given that so many records have been lost. I consider myself lucky to have been able to go back to the mid 1550s on ONE line - most peter out in the late 1700s. Not questioning that you (and others) have done it, just wonder how you've done it. Cheers Jan From: Bob Vary [mailto:oldcro...@optonline.net] Sent: Monday, 4 July 2011 14:22 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file But not everyone has it well documented. I also feel that I have the good fortune to have several proven lines of descent from notable medieval figures. Whether it’s a mathematical certainty or not is irrelevant. From: John S. Adams [mailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 11:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file I don't think it has anything to do with good fortune. It's almost a mathematical certainty. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA From: wood...@msn.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:35:50 -0700 One reason is that some of us have the good fortune to be direct descendants historical people living in the 9th and 10th centuries.. CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] number of people in your file
These were all Germans. My father's mother was from Baden-Wuerttemberg, cannot find out where my father's father was from. My mother's father was from Hesse, (I have not yet started on my husband's Irish ancestors.) Elizabeth C Mike Fry wrote: On 2011/07/04 18:43, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote: My ancestors were all very poor, and most lived below the radar. With my father's family, I feel lucky to have gotten to 1850 in one line. In my mother's it is easier. Her mother was from a group of Bucks County people who actually owned land. I can get my father's mother to a ship manifest, and that is it. Good for all those people who can go back farther, but a lot of us cannot. I feel very lucky to have 1200. In England Wales, it should be relatively easy to go back to the beginning of the 19th century. Beyond that, it helps to have relatives with uncommon names living in small communities. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator Question
You are correct, but I also have a picture of him taken sometime in the early 1920's. He is buried in New Jersey. Elizabeth C Ron Ferguson wrote: Elizabeth, I don't know where you are from but a word of caution, either could be correct! UK Certificates are copies and it would be easy to mistranscribe a 0 as a 6. This would, of course, equally apply to the stone mason, but such an error is far more likely to be picked up. Without any further information I would enter both, one of them as an Alt Death, with details of the confliction. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Cunningham Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 2:40 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator Question A great-grandfather's headstone said he died in 1920, but the death certificate says 1926. I do not know who messed up, but I believe the death certificate as being done closer to the time of death. Elizabeth C John Carter wrote: I rarely trust ages or birth dates on tombstones unless the marker is for someone under age 25. Otherwise, the source of that information is often someone younger than the deceased. The death date is *usually* accurate because the person providing the information either was there or has it first-hand from someone who was there, but not many people know the date of birth of someone a couple of generations older than they are. Example: I know that my maternal grandmother lied about her age to get her first job because her age in two consecutive census reports is consistent with the date in the B-M-D pages of her family Bible but her age at marriage and at the next census is off by the couple of years she added in when she was a teenager. Had I not had the B-M-D pages, I would have assumed that the early census reports were wrong and the marriage license and later census reports were correct. Someone placing a marker 100 years ago may only have had word-of-mouth as a reference. In my wife's family, there are several markers that were placed by a wealthy relative long (20-50 years) after his ancestors died. I know from other research that some of the dates are wrong. Even well-intentioned people doing family research get confused. There's a history of my wife's family that has a father and son married to the same woman - the two women had similar but not identical names. The error may not have been obvious when (if?) someone proofread the narrative, but it is very obvious when you draw the tree. John Well at least I know I'm not crazy! I use the Cal feature a lot with tombstones that give age in years/months/days. michele -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator Question Ah ha! That's it! That's where I saw it before. Thanks Evert! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Evert van Dijkenevandij...@gmail.com wrote: If I fill the First Date with 30 Jun 2011 and then I put in 11 years, 5, months, 4 days it doesn't add Cal but if I fill the Second Date with 30 jun 2011 and then I put in 11 years, 5, months, 4 days Legacy adds Cal in the First Date field Evert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator Question
A great-grandfather's headstone said he died in 1920, but the death certificate says 1926. I do not know who messed up, but I believe the death certificate as being done closer to the time of death. Elizabeth C John Carter wrote: I rarely trust ages or birth dates on tombstones unless the marker is for someone under age 25. Otherwise, the source of that information is often someone younger than the deceased. The death date is *usually* accurate because the person providing the information either was there or has it first-hand from someone who was there, but not many people know the date of birth of someone a couple of generations older than they are. Example: I know that my maternal grandmother lied about her age to get her first job because her age in two consecutive census reports is consistent with the date in the B-M-D pages of her family Bible but her age at marriage and at the next census is off by the couple of years she added in when she was a teenager. Had I not had the B-M-D pages, I would have assumed that the early census reports were wrong and the marriage license and later census reports were correct. Someone placing a marker 100 years ago may only have had word-of-mouth as a reference. In my wife's family, there are several markers that were placed by a wealthy relative long (20-50 years) after his ancestors died. I know from other research that some of the dates are wrong. Even well-intentioned people doing family research get confused. There's a history of my wife's family that has a father and son married to the same woman - the two women had similar but not identical names. The error may not have been obvious when (if?) someone proofread the narrative, but it is very obvious when you draw the tree. John Well at least I know I'm not crazy! I use the Cal feature a lot with tombstones that give age in years/months/days. michele -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:05 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Date Calculator Question Ah ha! That's it! That's where I saw it before. Thanks Evert! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Evert van Dijkenevandij...@gmail.com wrote: If I fill the First Date with 30 Jun 2011 and then I put in 11 years, 5, months, 4 days it doesn't add Cal but if I fill the Second Date with 30 jun 2011 and then I put in 11 years, 5, months, 4 days Legacy adds Cal in the First Date field Evert Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] connecting a couple together?
The problem is that this is genealogy. I know at least 3 same-sex couples that have adopted children. Raised or are raising them very successfully too. Elizabeth C Gene Young wrote: On 5/15/2011 5:41 PM, CE Wood wrote: Geez! Bigotry in control. CE Nonsense. Its genealogy. Legacy is a genealogy program. If you want a family history program, get one. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Screen Moves Back and Forth
Make sure your Scroll Lock is not on. Elizabeth C Diane Szabo wrote: Good morning! I had computer problems last week which required me to download Legacy Deluxe again in order to use the program. I then imported my Gedcom file and everything has been working fine, EXCEPT – when I add a person then go into adding the source for each item, birth, death, etc., the screen literally moves back and forward during the process for each source I enter. Otherwise everything is stationary and there are no problems, but this is annoying and frustrating. I did send an email message to technical support, but that was almost 48 hours ago and I have received no response. Hoping someone can help me with this. Diane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] sources
I missed something. What is SW? Elizabeth C Ward Walker wrote: Tim, The quality of the conversion varies with the nature of the template. Some SW templates intersperse master and detail fields in the formatted output. Once the source is converted to Basic, you get all the master info followed by all the detail info. The result can look rather scrambled, for some templates. Also, certain punctuation and abbreviations (like p. for page) can appear out of place or be missing. It's easy to experiment and see the results by importing the GEDCOM back into a test family file. Other genealogy packages have the same issue. There are several threads on this in the mail list archive. Ward - Original Message - From: Tim Rosenlofspa...@xmission.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sources Brian, I understand you would loose the SW style and revert to a Basic source. Would that Basic source which was reverted from SW style meet/keep Evidence! style ? Tim Rosenlof On 12/27/2010 3:16 PM, Brian/Support wrote: If you imported the data from a GEDCOM all the sources were created as Basic style sources, even if the data was originally from Legacy as SW style sources. The GEDCOM format for sources does not support the detailed source fields needed by the SW system. If the data was originally from Legacy you would have to import from the Legacy File in order to preserve the SW sources. To see the Master Sources and edit them go to View Master Lists Sources. NOTE: You cannot convert a Basic Style source to SW style by the edit process. You will have to create a New SW Style source for each Basic Style Source in the Master Source List. There is an Add button on the Source List screen that will let you create those new sources in SW style. ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Want to change Individual Information,,Jan Roberts
You do not need christening records if you are Quaker, since Quakers do not baptize or christen. I can give you the theological reasons if you care. Elizabeth C Ron Ferguson wrote: Brian, I do not understand why you have no use for christening records. In all countries, prior to the introduction of national recording of births, the christening records are the only way of determining an approximate birth date. For the rest of your post I suggest that you read my answer to Chuck. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Brian Lehman Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Want to change Individual Information,,Jan Roberts In my case,I have no use for a christening record,so its just wasted space for me. But,I guess at any rate it can't be changed anyway. May be the people at Legacy can make it customizable as on the family view? Thanks, Brian Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!
And your two messages were in HTML Elizabeth C Jack Earnshaw wrote: And yet, despite the protestations, this email was in HTML. If you sent it as plain text then something strange is happening Jack *From:* Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] *Sent:* 26 October 2010 19:31 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER! On 26/10/2010 18:23, Larry McCumber wrote: It may not be that they are inconsiderate. I think it is very inconsiderate. Everyone using Legacy is not as computer literate as you. I am as computer literate as I am because I took the trouble to learn. Before I began to post to newsgroups and mailing lists I took the trouble to learn what their rules were and how to comply with them. I consider this to be no more than common courtesy. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1152 / Virus Database: 424/3220 - Release Date: 10/26/10 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
What do the British or others use for citations in scholarly papers? The Chicago Manual of Style is a lot used, but when I typed my husband's Master's thesis (in philosophy), he had to use the MLA (Modern Language Association) style guide. So what style guides are used in Europe or South Africa? Is the continental or South African set much different? Elizabeth C Connie Sheets wrote: Actually, Mike, over here the psychologists use the APA reference style, not the Chicago Manual of Style. There are so many style guides, it makes the head spin. But my point was that Legacy staff did not make up most of the terminology. The British Medical Association has a webpage that discusses citations, citing electronic resources, etc. And Monash University in Australia has a web page Citing and referencing: How to acknowledge your sources, although the style guides they list seem to be American. Now that I will admit to: Americans deciding there need to be standards/rules for how to cite sources, and then writing a dozen or more guides insisting the style in each book is the proper one. :-) Connie Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2010/10/17 05:15, Connie Sheets wrote: Cite Your Sources: A Manual for Documenting Family Histories and and Genealogical Records by Richard Lackey was published in 1986, so this is not Legacy terminology, nor particularly recent terminology. American author. American publisher. It is also not terminology specific to genealogy. Psychologists, historians, librarians, etc. all have formats and guidelines for citing sources. It uses the Chicago Manual of Style - a US-defined set of standards. I see a pattern developing here :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Places
I ignore the four field convention also. I live in the US, in a city, and I need to put street addresses in always. I have a grandfather with at least 15 street address in a half-mile radius in Philadelphia. I will just need to take my chances with the program. Elizabeth C Mary Young wrote: On 13 September 2010 18:02, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: In case you don't know, I am English, and in my long time experience the so called four field convention which encourages one to use doesn't work for us, so forget it. Secondly, using the Address Book means that including them in reports is restricted, and in my view is situated inappropriately. Having got that off my chest, I recommend that you use the British address format for the place and put iit in the Location Field, and I find it best to include the house/road in that field so that it looks like: 2 Park Road, Winton, Eccles, Salford, Lancashire, England. I wholeheartedly agree with Ron, forget the four field convention it doesn't work for us Scots either :-) My only small difference - I put a comma after the house number, so the right-to-left sorting works 100%. e.g. without the comma: 15 Park Road 18 Western Terrace 26 Dreadlocks Street 37 Park Road with the comma: Dreadlocks Street, 26 Park Road, 15 Park Road, 37 Western Terrace, 18 My extended family were in Glasgow Govan over 60 years, and this sorting by street and then number has been an eye-opener. I can spot where a man has married the girl next door or a family has moved across the street into a bigger flat. -- Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy problem
That would be nice if I could get to the Help files. That is not possible either, I guess I might have to go for a total reinstall. I will then not have the updates, but I might be able to use the program. Elizabeth C Gene Young wrote: On 8/23/2010 9:50 PM, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote: I did not knowingly configure my Legacy to look for updates. How can I correct it if I did so accidentally? Elizabeth C By checking the help files you will see that if you go to the Legacy Home tab, then click on the Options button, then select options, you will be given the option to tell Legacy to never connect to the Internet unless a link is clicked. This is the option you want for a computer not connected to the internet. The Allow Legacy to connect is selected by default. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy problem
I have 2 computers. One is connected to the internet, and one, on which I do all my work, is not. I have Legacy 5 and Legacy 6 on that one. I tried to open a family file in Legacy 5, and was told I needed a newer copy of Legacy, so I tried to open it in Legacy 6. I keep getting told that the Web page I requested is not available (of course not! the computer is not connected to the internet). When I try to click continue offline the whole program quits. Why does Legacy insist I use the internet when I don't want to? and how can I get to my data in Legacy 6? I haven't even considered going to Legacy 7 because of this problem. Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy problem
I did not knowingly configure my Legacy to look for updates. How can I correct it if I did so accidentally? Elizabeth C Ron Taylor wrote: Elizabeth, I have used Legacy since version 3 and I am now using version 7. I have always updated without any problem. I do have one computer that is not on the internet so I simply download the full install file of Legacy on one of my computers that has internet access, put the install file on a memory stick, and then install the newest version from the memory stick on the computer that has no internet access. You may have configured your Legacy to automatically check for updates which would complain if it does not have internet connectivity. Ron Taylor --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Elizabeth Cunninghamdrybo...@netreach.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Cunninghamdrybo...@netreach.net Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy problem To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 7:21 PM I have 2 computers. One is connected to the internet, and one, on which I do all my work, is not. I have Legacy 5 and Legacy 6 on that one. I tried to open a family file in Legacy 5, and was told I needed a newer copy of Legacy, so I tried to open it in Legacy 6. I keep getting told that the Web page I requested is not available (of course not! the computer is not connected to the internet). When I try to click continue offline the whole program quits. Why does Legacy insist I use the internet when I don't want to? and how can I get to my data in Legacy 6? I haven't even considered going to Legacy 7 because of this problem. Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Probate
You people with probate problems do not know how lucky you are. All the relatives I have found so far (except my mother and one uncle) had nothing, no real estate or anything else much, and left no wills. No real estate transfers either. AAAGH! Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Blank Census Forms
You might want to check with your e-mail provider. All my mail from nwphillyfreecycle all of a sudden went into their junk file, and I had to contact them to fix it. I fill in blank census forms as I find them and put them with the family involved. Elizabeth C Kathy McLeod wrote: I apologize - I just sent this same email in HTML - forgot to change to plain text. I joined this group as well as the Legacy FS group and have not seen any email from the LUG group in my inbox. There are several others in the Legacy FS group that have said the same. Question - I just found in Legacy the ability to print blank census forms. I'm interested to know how y'all use them and how you file them. Thank you, Kathleen McLeod Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] People in your tree
All of you are in another league from me. I have 1000 names, and was surprised to have so many. My ancestors all flew below the radar. Very few owned property, none left wills, and most moved all over the place. I have 15 Philadelphia addresses for one grandfather, plus 2 Trenton ones, and he had children born in Lafayette, Spring Hill, and at least one other place in Pennsylvania. He also seems to have avoided the census takers, and he was not the only one. My mother lived in Lebanon and Pittsburgh in PA, NJ, Denver, Wyoming and Pasadena (before she was 25). Fortunately she talked to me about where she lived.I was able to find one line (all of whom are engineers or accountants) but the rest are blank. And I cannot get them across the ocean/ Elizabeth C Graham wrote: Hello all, I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size of families comes into it, but am I missing something here? Regards, Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy 7
I am still using Legacy 5 because the colors in Legacy 6 are so bland I can hardly use the program. (I cannot distinguish the icons.) How is Legacy 7 in that respect? And if I go to 7, I can no longer use 5 or 6, right? If I want Legacy 7 on a machine not connected to the internet, can I do that? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7
Thank you for the link. The colors look like they would work for me, and the features certainly look nice. It is still true that if I transfer to Legacy 7, I can no longer see the info on 5 or 6, right? Thanks again, Elizabeth C Evert van Dijken wrote: See http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Tour.asp Evert van Dijken 2010/4/17 Elizabeth Cunninghamdrybo...@netreach.net: I am still using Legacy 5 because the colors in Legacy 6 are so bland I can hardly use the program. (I cannot distinguish the icons.) How is Legacy 7 in that respect? And if I go to 7, I can no longer use 5 or 6, right? If I want Legacy 7 on a machine not connected to the internet, can I do that? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events
And I need 5 locations, because I have to include street addresses. In a city of 2 million, just the city, county, state, country is not nearly accurate enough. Elizabeth C Ron Goodwin wrote: Hi Ron, I would prefer an option in Legacy that would allow users to use 3 or 4 place locations depending on the country they are entering information on. I understand that you prefer and only use 3 place locations, so how would you handle the United States locations? I have relatives in Canada, England, Australia as well as the United States and well 3 place locations fit most countries I have some locations within several States within the USA where the same town name appears more that once within the same State and the only way to identify the correct location is by using the County identifier. Any suggestions? Ron Ottawa, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: March 8, 2010 18:55 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations, addresses and events Carol, It is not a standard location format if you are British, or of many, many other nationalities. We abandoned standardisation before it was invented, on the basis that is does not work, will not work, and conflicts with our freedom of expression. My location at one time was Glossop, Derbyshire, England. The problem is, as you can see, there aint 4 fields, nor is there anywhere where I can stick a comma (not that I would, I hate them, except when used correctly in English). I could also go to the other extreme, should you so wish, where the very old (like before my time) location of the place where I lived was Winton, Barton upon Irwell, Eccles, Hundred of Salford, Lancashire, England, where Winton is a Hamlet, Barton upon Irwell: a Township, Eccles: a Parish, Hundred of Salford: the Hundred, Lancashire: the County and England: Country. Please bare in mind that some countries had locations nearly 2000 years ago, and most of ours were included in the Doomsday Book cir. 1086. You may care to visit my blog at http://bit.ly/8VDqTc, which was reprinted by World Vital Records btw. for more details. I also note that in the new transcriptions for their new database Family Search are now starting use use correct English locations (more or less). There's hope yet! Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy FamilySearch User Group
How many of us have two e-mail addresses to subscribe with? I have enough trouble managing one! Elizabeth C Ruth Nerud wrote: Then why don't they say that on the registration page? Another bug? (: Ruth Nerud - Original Message - From: Mike Frymike...@iafrica.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy FamilySearch User Group For those of you who have subscribed and, like me, not received any messages, I have an answer. Apparently, if you subscribe to the LegacyFS list using the exact same email address with which you subscribed to the usual list, then you won't receive anything. Unsubscribe from the LegacyFS list and subscribe with a different email address. I did this and now can receive messages! What a stupid restriction! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter an unnamed child
Obviously a child who died very young, maybe within a day or two of birth. Elizabeth C John S. Adams wrote: Huh? -- I found a newspaper clipping for an ancestor who didn't live long enough to be named Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy
I ignore the 4-field rule also, and I am in the US. Pretty much all my relatives are in cities, some of them quite close to each other (and one grandfather has at least 15 street addresses). So I include street addresses, and phooey with the 4-field bit. I consistently have 5. Doesn't seem to bother anything that I can see. Elizabeth C Jack Earnshaw wrote: Oh please don’t Bill!! Scotland is a country, as is England, France etc etc. The only thing that is wrong is a system that tells you that all locations obey the 4 field rule. Ie everywhere is the same as the USA. We in the UK have accepted for a long time that we just have to put our locations in correctly and accept that the software thinks we are wrong. We are not wrong and we should enter data in the most meaningful way possible – very similarly to the way you would put it on an envelope (where you would never write Great Britain, GB, UK etc). The Geo database is USA centric and that is a shame. The users don’t have to be Jack *From:* Bill Wood [mailto:steamingb...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 17 January 2010 04:42 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy Thankyou Elizabeth - I will try your suggestion and put Scotland in as a State with United Kingdom as the Country and see if the Towns are then recognised. I dont think my Grandad would be impressed with Scotland being demoted from Country to State - but that can be our secret . Regards Bill Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Verify your subscription to LegacyUserGroup mailing list
Since your address would not allow me, you will not get my messages. And why should I bother? Elizabeth C robertsmith2...@earthlink.net wrote: I apologize for this automatic reply to your email. To control spam, I now allow incoming messages only from senders I have approved beforehand. If you would like to be added to my list of approved senders, please fill out the short request form (see link below). Once I approve you, I will receive your original message in my inbox. You do not need to resend your message. I apologize for this one-time inconvenience. Click the link below to fill out the request: https://webmail.pas.earthlink.net/wam/addme?a=robertsmith2...@earthlink.netid=11de-fbf1-5fe18692-a408-002128142564 https://webmail.pas.earthlink.net/wam/addme?a=robertsmith2...@earthlink.netid=11de-fbf1-5fe18692-a408-002128142564 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?
It may be there, but I could not find it. That suggests newbies may not find it easily either. Elizabeth C Sherry/Support wrote: It's already there on the website in the section about the LUG list. Right underneath the link to the LUG guidelines. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible? This isdirected actually to the crew at Legacy. Since we don't have digest available anyway, could you put in the 'guidelines' a note that about that, which would tell future newbies the facts. I don't care about digest, but this might cut down on the (reasonably) continuous requests for this. Not to cause distress to the newbies, nor the oldtimers that know. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] digest option is one way . . .
I agree with Art totally. Elizabeth C Art Seddon wrote: Yep Mike. And I don't think anyone should be allowed to get behind the wheel of an automobile until he's driven at least 20,000 miles. The only way I was ever able to get experience doing anything from eating to making love was to do it the first time and then go on from there. And although 82 years old, my first personal computer was a 29 pound Compaq portable. That after working on an HP that the basic program was stored on a flexible piece of plastic about 2 x 8. You got to crawl before you can walk or run. Art Seddon - Original Message - From:mike...@iafrica.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] digest option is one way . . . gacyusers.com X-SpamScore: 1.5tests=SGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER Envelope-To: ased...@artseddon.com vrsschul...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to comment on this listserv, although I have not been subscribed for very long. Strictly speaking, this is a mailing-list not a listserv. Reason LISTSERV is a registered trademark with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and the Swedish Patent and Registration Office, PRV. As such, using the word listserv to describe a different product or as a generic term for any email-based mailing list of that kind is a trademark misuse. The standard generic terms are electronic mailing list, elist, or email list for the list itself, and email list manager or email list software for the software product that manages the list 1. I have read many messages that were not about verifying one's subscription, although that was the subject line. People just don't know what they're supposed to be doing :-) We have many elderly people on this list, and often, this is their first, tentative foray into the world of electronic communication. I still believe (like others) that computers should not be sold to the elderly without a Health Warning and a mandatory exhortation to try and learn about how things work on the Internet before they take the training wheels off. Failure to do so can cause ire on the part of the younger and more knowledgeable members of this group and the Internet in general. 2. I have read many messages that appear to be totally personal and not directed to my attention, with misleading subject lines. Tough! That's the nature of a mailing-list. You receive everything that gets sent to the list - whether you want it or not and regardless of whether you're interested in it or not. 3. My inbox was already filling up way too fast for me with all kinds of spam; now it's twice as full with individual messages from this user group. Learn to manage your Inbox. Filters are very useful despite the slightly un-intuitive way that they have been implemented by bothe Yahoo! and Google, Alternatively, find an ISP that will stop 98% of the spam from ever reaching your Inbox. Mine does. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
