RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-30 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:20:03 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

drive overlay program most likely will be needed for W98SE:
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/faq/137_win98.html

As for the other OSs, they support large HDs internally as long as their at the
latest service pack (W2K sp4, WXP sp2, linux okay), so there's no problems
there either.

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Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-30 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:28:37 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Windows 98SE has a default limitation of 137GB supporting ATA interface disc
drives. Therefore, your boot drive partition will have a maximum size of
137GB.!

Therefore, even with a drive overlay program, you'll only see 137GB of drives
larger than that under Windows 98SE on the Librettos.  You can't exceed this
limit at all due to the OS constraints. (ie. move up to W2K,WXP instead)

W2K would be the 'best' choice for a slow Libretto due to the limited RAM
available, and preferably, only on the Libretto 100/110 or newer systems  (the
older ones have too little RAM and CPU speed IMO).



On the flip side, the Libretto U100 is now selling for as low as $1500 new
(www.shopper.com), so in a few more months, it may well be a great upgrade for
older Libretto owners who want a little more power and features, but a small
notebook.

Those who don't care should look at the $850 Sony FS810 notebook on sale this
week at BestBuy.com stores!  An excellent DVD burning notebook cheap that'll do
quite a lot w/o spending too much.  (Yes, you can get faster models and spend
$$$, but that's always the case.)  Those wanting even cheaper can get the
HP/Compaq on sale for about $500, but I'd avoid it due to the lower reliability
of HP/Compaq laptops over the past several years in PC Mag and PC World
rankings.



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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-30 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:31:04 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

(Seeing as 
 Win9X aren't very reliable on any hard drive regardless of size, G)

  Tell that to my stable Win98SE L110 that has been running it for years.  Key
to a stable system it to set a) OS first b) drivers c) updates and patches d)
apps e) settings, then make a full drive backup.  At this point, everything's
running rock solid and will continue to do so for years.  

  Most people install/uninstall over the years, which leads to instabilities in
any OS.  Best way?  restore that drive image backup, install the new app, and
you'll be running a solid, stable system from the start w/o any problems from
numerous installations over time.

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Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-29 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:52:09 +0100
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Richard Mittendorfer wrote:

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Also sprach John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:35:11
-0800):


Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

I do not run linux, I run Windows 98SE as it is required for
compatibility  by my profession.
So, will a Libretto 100/110CT running Windows 98SE be able to see all
of a  hard drive larger than 128GB?


After some patching, that might well be the case (see below).


I don't know, but AFAIK it sees what it get's from BIOS. And the


Yes and no.
When booting, Win98 is initially in 16-bit (DOS) mode, and then it gets 
all the HD info it needs through the BIOS, incl. the disk layout info 
from the MBR.
But at the end of the boot process, Win98 takes disk I/O over from the 
BIOS (switch to 32-bit mode) and will be able to see all of the HD.
Pity that there's no 32-bit disk partitioner in Win98. Would have 
avoided a lot of problems (and posts on this subject...)


Libretto BIOS will not see the whole disk (INT13 limitations). 
So you will need some kind of bootmanager, which will pass the right 
table to the OS, I've heard about such a thing, but can't name one. 
Hope, google will help.


To be precise: as the int13 extensions for disk I/O have been 
implemented OK, one just needs to get a proper MBR in place. *That* is 
hard inside a Libretto.
But of course, clever software or clever procedures can help to get this 
together. Search the archives for more info.


I doubt that W98 can _handle_ disks greater 128GiB/137.4GB(SI norm). 
IIRC 48bit LBA(?) first came with ServicePack1 to XP.


Linux since 2.4.19 can handle them. It also doesn't read the BIOS, so
the INT13 limit doesn't show up.



I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be hardware,
not  software, so in that case the operating system, linux as well as


I think it's more like a hardware specification limit, not a real HW 
operational limit.


For Win98 etc there are patches to access drives  137 GB (not widely 
tested BTW AFAIK. Anyone care to try?, e.g.):

http://members.aol.com/rloew1/

Philip




Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-29 Thread john

Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:07:43 + (UTC)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

whoa..there is something about 98 I'd forgotten. It MAY handle larger than 
100GB drives ok. There was a rumor 98SE could NOT boot drives greater than 
32GB safetly however I remember there being a post of someone using a 60GB 
(me) drive without an overlay. I was mainly using the MSDOS that came with 
it for recovery and life was good, saw the whole drive, no data 
corruption, narey a probelm. I suspect the rumor AND following rumors of 
small (less than 1-2TB) drives not working MAY be caused by bad hardware 
in the Librettos NOT by the OSes themselves. You may want to get your 
hardware checked by a computer tech.


yours

john


On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Philip Nienhuis wrote:


Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:52:09 +0100
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Richard Mittendorfer wrote:

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Also sprach John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:35:11
-0800):


Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

I do not run linux, I run Windows 98SE as it is required for
compatibility  by my profession.
So, will a Libretto 100/110CT running Windows 98SE be able to see all
of a  hard drive larger than 128GB?


After some patching, that might well be the case (see below).


I don't know, but AFAIK it sees what it get's from BIOS. And the


Yes and no.
When booting, Win98 is initially in 16-bit (DOS) mode, and then it gets all 
the HD info it needs through the BIOS, incl. the disk layout info from the 
MBR.
But at the end of the boot process, Win98 takes disk I/O over from the BIOS 
(switch to 32-bit mode) and will be able to see all of the HD.
Pity that there's no 32-bit disk partitioner in Win98. Would have avoided a 
lot of problems (and posts on this subject...)


Libretto BIOS will not see the whole disk (INT13 limitations). So you will 
need some kind of bootmanager, which will pass the right table to the OS, 
I've heard about such a thing, but can't name one. Hope, google will help.


To be precise: as the int13 extensions for disk I/O have been implemented OK, 
one just needs to get a proper MBR in place. *That* is hard inside a 
Libretto.
But of course, clever software or clever procedures can help to get this 
together. Search the archives for more info.


I doubt that W98 can _handle_ disks greater 128GiB/137.4GB(SI norm). IIRC 
48bit LBA(?) first came with ServicePack1 to XP.


Linux since 2.4.19 can handle them. It also doesn't read the BIOS, so
the INT13 limit doesn't show up.



I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be hardware,
not  software, so in that case the operating system, linux as well as


I think it's more like a hardware specification limit, not a real HW 
operational limit.


For Win98 etc there are patches to access drives  137 GB (not widely tested 
BTW AFAIK. Anyone care to try?, e.g.):

http://members.aol.com/rloew1/

Philip







RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-29 Thread John Martin
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:53:27 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

As inexpensive as drives have become, I will test one in the Libretto... of 
course I don't have another computer that can seed a drive that large I 
don't think, but I will upgrade SOMETHING in here soon.  I use Novell for 
file sever at home and anyone here who uses it knows there have not been 
drive limitations for more than 10 years.  I guess Novell has spoiled me, 
as all this crap I have had to deal with for years relative to various 
drive issues seems ridiculous.   Novell is what I work with mostly.  It has 
been able to deal with terabyte drive arrays since version 4.1X in about 
1994.  Mirrored, Striped, Duplexed, spanning as many drives as hardware 
would support and I have never had it choke.  The file server at one 
location I maintain has 6 physical Data Drives with one volume.  They are 
striped across three (for speed) and duplexed to the other three (for 
active redundancy).  I realize the stability (of Novell) in this area of 
drives is because of File Server designs dealing with drive volumes 
spanning multiple drives of course... much different than what is expected 
of a PC, but Windows has always been behind real operating systems in my 
opinion.  Cutesy Sells though doesn't it...

When I get a larger than 137GB drive and the correct Windows Patches, I 
will see if I can get it working and report on how reliable it is in Win98. 
 I have a 486/50 running Windows 3.11FW that can browse the net (in 256 
colors), so this drive support should be easy!  : )

Thanks to everyone for so much usable information on this subject.  As soon 
as David posted that about the 160GB I started wondering.  Such extensive 
(exhaustive?) answers are really appreciated.

Thank you,
John Martin




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clipped a lot here


I think it's more like a hardware specification limit, not a real HW
operational limit.

For Win98 etc there are patches to access drives  137 GB (not widely
tested BTW AFAIK. Anyone care to try?, e.g.):
http://members.aol.com/rloew1/

Philip






RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-28 Thread john

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:38:35 + (UTC)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

what is windows 98? has dec sold its operating system to sun? I thought 
that was called solarias. what profession requires solarias?


On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, John Martin wrote:


Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

I do not run linux, I run Windows 98SE as it is required for compatibility
by my profession.
So, will a Libretto 100/110CT running Windows 98SE be able to see all of a
hard drive larger than 128GB?
I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be hardware, not
software, so in that case the operating system, linux as well as Windows,
would be secondary as far as translation.  I also realize that if the
hardware of the day didn't support such drive sizes, it is likely the
software addressing and interpretation would also not have been present in
the OS's of that time period.  I realize also that some people have Windows
2000 working on older Librettos and of course many Librettos shipped with
NT, but I don't believe these OS's look at drives the same as the older
Windows versions.
Anyone care to expand on this?

John Martin

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Subject:  RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:36:52 + (UTC)
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Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

yes, if linux is installed properly (without a drive translator) it will
see the drive directly. If it doesn't work because the drive is too
big you can modify the source for the operating system so it'll work.

On another note, I've found software for all the hardware of the U100
(including the software modem--still trying to get it to work as a dsl
modem by the way--no success yet--heh..just read what I wrote, software
for a software modem--talk about SLOW!!) EXCEPT the fingerprint sensor.
Has anyone had success in finding, or has anyone written anything for it
that will let it work in the shell, or is the software for it ALREADY in
the kerenl?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, John Martin wrote:


Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:30:46 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

So is there any way to make a drive larger than 128GB work in the older
Librettos?  Or do I need to start saving for a U model?

John Martin

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Subject:  RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:49:58 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Just keep you're eyes out for that new 160GB 2.5 coming soon from

Seagate!

Should be just about ready to hit the pipelines soon



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Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Mittendorfer
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Also sprach John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:35:11
-0800):
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
 From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review
 
 I do not run linux, I run Windows 98SE as it is required for
 compatibility  by my profession.
 So, will a Libretto 100/110CT running Windows 98SE be able to see all
 of a  hard drive larger than 128GB?

I don't know, but AFAIK it sees what it get's from BIOS. And the
Libretto BIOS will not see the whole disk (INT13 limitations). 
So you will need some kind of bootmanager, which will pass the right 
table to the OS, I've heard about such a thing, but can't name one. 
Hope, google will help.

I doubt that W98 can _handle_ disks greater 128GiB/137.4GB(SI norm). 
IIRC 48bit LBA(?) first came with ServicePack1 to XP.

Linux since 2.4.19 can handle them. It also doesn't read the BIOS, so
the INT13 limit doesn't show up.

 I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be hardware,
 not  software, so in that case the operating system, linux as well as

Both i think. 

 Windows,  would be secondary as far as translation.  I also realize
 that if the  hardware of the day didn't support such drive sizes, it
 is likely the  software addressing and interpretation would also not
 have been present in  the OS's of that time period.  I realize also
 that some people have Windows  2000 working on older Librettos and of
 course many Librettos shipped with  NT, but I don't believe these OS's
 look at drives the same as the older  Windows versions.
 Anyone care to expand on this?

The old ATA standard has a 137.4 GB limit. It's gone with ATA-6.

---8---
The old ATA standard describes how to address a sector on an IDE disk
using 28 bits (8 bits for the sector, 4 for the head, 16 for the
cylinder). This means that an IDE disk can have at most 2^28 addressable
sectors With 512-byte sectors this is 2^37 bytes, that is, 137.4 GB.

The ATA-6 standard includes a specification how to address past this
2^28 sector boundary. The new standard allows addressing of 2^48
sectors. There is support in recent Linux kernels that have incorporated
Andre Hedrick's IDE patch, for example 2.4.18-pre7-ac3 and 2.5.3. 
---8

So I doubt, the 1x0ct will work with this drives. AFAIK there were
interface changes which affect the whole IDE interface (hw).

 John Martin

sl ritch




RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-28 Thread John Martin
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:35:46 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Thank you for clarifying RM...

I think I read about what you described.  The bios of the Libretto can't 
see the disks larger than 128/137, but even if you get around that with 
some sort of translating software, Windows 98, which is what most older 
Librettos are running, doesn't support the larger drives anyway, or at 
least not without some modifications.  Seeing as Windows 98 is not really 
supported by Microsoft anymore anyway, it is unlikely adding such would 
have any positive effects of the stability of the OS anyway.  (Seeing as 
Win9X aren't very reliable on any hard drive regardless of size, G)

I just started wondering and decided to ask the question when David 
mentioned the 160GB Seagate 2.5...

Thanks,  : )
John Martin



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Sent:  Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To:  Libretto
Subject:  Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Also sprach John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:35:11
-0800):
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
 From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

 I do not run linux, I run Windows 98SE as it is required for
 compatibility  by my profession.
 So, will a Libretto 100/110CT running Windows 98SE be able to see all
 of a  hard drive larger than 128GB?

I don't know, but AFAIK it sees what it get's from BIOS. And the
Libretto BIOS will not see the whole disk (INT13 limitations).
So you will need some kind of bootmanager, which will pass the right
table to the OS, I've heard about such a thing, but can't name one.
Hope, google will help.

I doubt that W98 can _handle_ disks greater 128GiB/137.4GB(SI norm).
IIRC 48bit LBA(?) first came with ServicePack1 to XP.

Linux since 2.4.19 can handle them. It also doesn't read the BIOS, so
the INT13 limit doesn't show up.

 I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be hardware,
 not  software, so in that case the operating system, linux as well as

Both i think.

 Windows,  would be secondary as far as translation.  I also realize
 that if the  hardware of the day didn't support such drive sizes, it
 is likely the  software addressing and interpretation would also not
 have been present in  the OS's of that time period.  I realize also
 that some people have Windows  2000 working on older Librettos and of
 course many Librettos shipped with  NT, but I don't believe these OS's
 look at drives the same as the older  Windows versions.
 Anyone care to expand on this?

The old ATA standard has a 137.4 GB limit. It's gone with ATA-6.

---8---
The old ATA standard describes how to address a sector on an IDE disk
using 28 bits (8 bits for the sector, 4 for the head, 16 for the
cylinder). This means that an IDE disk can have at most 2^28 addressable
sectors With 512-byte sectors this is 2^37 bytes, that is, 137.4 GB.

The ATA-6 standard includes a specification how to address past this
2^28 sector boundary. The new standard allows addressing of 2^48
sectors. There is support in recent Linux kernels that have incorporated
Andre Hedrick's IDE patch, for example 2.4.18-pre7-ac3 and 2.5.3.
---8

So I doubt, the 1x0ct will work with this drives. AFAIK there were
interface changes which affect the whole IDE interface (hw).

 John Martin

sl ritch






Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Mittendorfer
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:22:55 +0100
From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Also sprach Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:35:10
-0800):
 At 10:39 AM 28/01/2006 -0800, you wrote:
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
 From: Richard Mittendorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review
 
 Also sprach John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:35:11
 -0800):
   Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:38 -0800
   From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review
[...]
   I am almost certain I understood the 128GB limitation to be
   hardware, not  software, so in that case the operating system,
   linux as well as
 
 Both i think.
 
 Well sorta ... it's a firmware and software limitation but not
 actually a  hardware limitation (such as a lack of bus lines) :-)

see. I wasn't sure, since ATA-6 looks more like a protcol change, but..

 Having said that AFAIK no-one has modded the firmware (in this case, 
 probably the BIOS and IDE controller) to handle the ATA limit so the 
 distinction is somewhat academic.

.. I wouldn't be surprised if 1x0ct's crappy ide controller (isa? it
can't even do DMA) will just say no thanks to these drives. However
I'd be happy to be proven wrong. :-)
   
 snip
 
 So I doubt, the 1x0ct will work with this drives. AFAIK there were
 interface changes which affect the whole IDE interface (hw).
 
 You could always do something silly like use a SATA PCMCIA card then
 run  wires back to the hard drive bay and somehow get a HDD and
 connector to fit  into the original HDD bay (should be possible with
 some creative  plasticwork) ... then figure out how to boot the
 Libretto off the SATA  PCMCIA card :-)

..and use a very very tiny cfcard(to-ide-adaptor) to boot from? Sounds
reasonable. Wouldn't a raid0 setup with 6 or even 10 of those 0,85 inch 
drives be fun? ;-)  

sl ritch




Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-28 Thread Raymond

Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:20:46 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review



snip
 Having said that AFAIK no-one has modded the firmware (in this case,
 probably the BIOS and IDE controller) to handle the ATA limit so the
 distinction is somewhat academic.

.. I wouldn't be surprised if 1x0ct's crappy ide controller (isa? it
can't even do DMA) will just say no thanks to these drives. However
I'd be happy to be proven wrong. :-)


The 1x0ct's IDE controller almost certainly won't understand ATA-6 but I'm 
almost certain the drive will recognise this and fall back into 
compatibility mode ...





snip
 You could always do something silly like use a SATA PCMCIA card then
 run  wires back to the hard drive bay and somehow get a HDD and
 connector to fit  into the original HDD bay (should be possible with
 some creative  plasticwork) ... then figure out how to boot the
 Libretto off the SATA  PCMCIA card :-)

..and use a very very tiny cfcard(to-ide-adaptor) to boot from? Sounds
reasonable. Wouldn't a raid0 setup with 6 or even 10 of those 0,85 inch
drives be fun? ;-)


Well, what with these Alienware bric^H^H^H^Hlaptops with their dual hard 
drive bays and dual optical drives I'm sure it's possible to fit 10 or even 
maybe 20 CF cards or microdrives with interfaces in a laptop ;-D


Somehow I'm not sure how many you'll manage to fit into the Libretto though 
... it DOES have the capability to manage 4 Cardbus slots though (with the 
docking station) so a RAID setup of some form isn't totally stupid 
(partially maybe!) ... I wonder how long it'll be before we can fit 1TB 
into a laptop the size of the Libretto ...



- Raymond


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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-27 Thread John Martin
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:30:46 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

A 160GB 2.5...  That is a big drive.  I remember when I had a Midwest Micro 
Elite Notebook with the HUGE 120MB Drive in... after all, it was a 486 
expandable to 8 MEG of ram you know.  Then I heard of a NEW 340MB drive to 
be coming out from Toshiba.  I got on the waiting list and paid about $700 
USD for that drive I think.  Then a year or so later a 540MB drive was 
announced.  I got on that list also and I think it was less than $600 USD. 
 That was probably 10 years ago or more and they keep getting cheaper. 
 Amazing to me.  BTW, both of those hard drives still work.  I adapted the 
340MB into an IBM 486 Blue Lightening 486-50MZ computer which is still in 
use on my network today.  (like right now acutally) and the 540MB drive 
still works in the Midwest Micro Elite notebook.  It also is used on the 
network with a parallel port Ethernet  adapter running DOS and Windows 
3.11.
Anyway, the point is that drives sure have changed fast.  I am very young, 
but have seen so much change in the area of electronic and computers.  I 
can't even imagine the change in computers my father has seen.

So is there any way to make a drive larger than 128GB work in the older 
Librettos?  Or do I need to start saving for a U model?

John Martin

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From:  David Chien [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Friday, January 27, 2006 4:51 PM
To:  Libretto
Subject:  RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:49:58 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Just keep you're eyes out for that new 160GB 2.5 coming soon from Seagate! 
Should be just about ready to hit the pipelines soon



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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

2006-01-26 Thread John Martin
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:36:04 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

I installed this same drive in my 110CT and use it constantly.  Thanks to 
this site and lots of helpful people here, I was able to format it 
correctly and once again use hibernation... always.  In the past I just 
didn't use hibernation but learned the hardware WOULD hibernate independent 
of the Operating System, and it wiped out data on my drive.  If you are 
like me and run Windows with a lot of setup and too much installed, booting 
is a lesson in patience and hibernation is a huge time saver.  I have seen 
complaints on this site about Libretto Hibernation issues, but I never have 
any problems with hibernation unless I change hardware around and try to 
wake it back up.  Hardware needs to stay the same for Windows sake.
Anyway, if anyone else is considering this drive or any large capacity 
drive, with the knowledge found on this site it can be done and done right! 
 : )

Again thanks to everyone here that offers a hand when so many people come 
here for Libretto assistance.  This is a really great site and I wish there 
were sites this dedicated for many other things besides these wonderful 
tiny computers.

Thanks!

John Martin

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Sent:  Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:35 PM
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Subject:  [LIB] Toshiba 100GB HD review

Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:34:52 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Toshiba 100GB HD review

http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=16142

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