eth0 vs. eth1 (was Re: Cabel modem installation)
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:03:15 +0200, Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you propose that I run
the home network ( being off almost all the time ) as eth0? I personally
prefer running it as eth1, so to avoid the case of eth0 down and eth1 up.
Can anyone explain to me why eth0 is better/before eth1 ?
I have several machines where I use eth1 instead of eth0. I just
added/changed the line ONBOOT=no in the ifcfg-eth0 files and thats
it. I did not see any side effects.
If my knowledge is correct, you can always any name you want just
by putting the right alias in /etc/modules.conf[1] and having the
corresponding ifcfg-name in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/.
[1] You don't have to use alias if you put the REAL device name
in ifcfg-name.
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Re: eth0 vs. eth1 (was Re: Cabel modem installation)
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 11:58:06AM +0200, Ehud Karni wrote: Can anyone explain to me why eth0 is better/before eth1 ? Broken programs assume that the first (usually, only) eth interface is eth0? If my knowledge is correct, you can always any name you want just by putting the right alias in /etc/modules.conf[1] and having the corresponding ifcfg-name in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/. To translate to vendor neutral speak, you can do it by using the approriate ioctl, which happens to be SIOCSIFNAME. You can also use the nameif(1) tool from the net-tools package. You can only change an interface's name to foo if a) the interface is down and b) no interface foo already exists. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using the culmus fonts with redhat 7.3
Hi I'm trying to use the culmus fonts with RH7.3 (The culmus fonts have only iso8859-8 and not iso10646-1, like a certain set of fonts I wish to avoid ATM). So far I managed to use them with a number of programs, but failed to use them with both AbiWord and OpenOffice . I suspect that the reason is the same: $ LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 AbiWord Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C With OpenOffice I have the fonts displayed in the fonts list (after I installed them with spaadmin) but the font name is not rendered in its own font. I get '!2CTev' instead. And the fonts don't display anything. I tried to add the locale he_IL.ISO-8859-8 using either (as root): localedef -f ISO-8859-8 -i en_US he_IL.ISO-8859-8 or: localedef -f ISO-8859-8 -i he_IL he_IL.ISO-8859-8 both finished successfully. I had no problems showing a 'date' of he created locale (it showed an English date in the first case, and a Hebrew-ISO-8859-8 date in the second case) Still, I get the warning. I looked at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir : iso8859-8/XLC_LOCALEhe_IL.ISO8859-8 (the file exists) and locale.alias of the same dir maps several locales to he_IL.ISO8859-8 but nothing more. glibc-2.2.5-39 XFree86-4.2.0-8 What's next? -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ot: adsl router recommendations
Hi Does any of you have experience with Cnet CNAD 804-NF Adsl router ? Anything good or bad to say about it ? Thanks, Ishai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved]Cabel modem installation.
Hello guys ! Finally, I can connect to the net !!! I first tried following these instructions : 1. route to your local Aruzei zahav network : route add -net 10.x.y.z netmask 255.255.240.0 gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 2.route to your Internet_Zahav pptp server:route add -host IP_of_inet_zahav_pptp gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 3.standart local route 127.0.0.0 through lo interface. 4.(optional) you can add a route to aruzey zahav dns server here : route add -host AZAHAV_DNS_SERVER gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 5. run route -n to check if you have a default gw, if you do - DELETE it. you don't need it anymore 'cause you have static routes to everywhere you need. 6 .now run pptp client with all of the parameters , if you chose not to apply paragraph 4 use IP address for IneternetZahav pptp server. use ifconfig to see when the ppp0 interface is brought up. use route -n to see if pptp client added the new DEFAULT gw. if you don't see it add it using: route add default gw 213.8.255.217 interface ppp0 # I took the address from your first mail. And then got stuck in stage 6. After a brief look at the cablestart script I noticed that the pptp binary file should be started before removing the local GW and before adding the new Gateway. I don't know how but after I bumped into this error I tried runing 'cablestart' and saw I was connected ! Here is the routing table: [root@localhost eg]# /sbin/route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 213.8.255.217 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 pns.inter.net.i 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 00 eth0 10.40.32.0 * 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 00 eth0 3 default ?! This is quite strange but as long as it works ... Thank you all ! Eliran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ot: adsl router recommendations
On Thursday 30 January 2003 13:55, Ishai Parasol wrote: Hi Does any of you have experience with Cnet CNAD 804-NF Adsl router ? Anything good or bad to say about it ? From my past expirience - it's piece of shit (specially when it comes to keep the connection up for few days).. I would suggest a cheap-o small PC (processor doesn't really matter - be it VIA, AMD K6/K7, Pentium I/II/III/Celeron) with 2 NICS should do the job perfectly.. Thanks, Hetz To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ot: adsl router recommendations
- Original Message - From: Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would suggest a cheap-o small PC (processor doesn't really matter - be it VIA, AMD K6/K7, Pentium I/II/III/Celeron) with 2 NICS should do the job perfectly.. And the modem ? anything good that can be bought around here ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ot: adsl router recommendations
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I would suggest a cheap-o small PC (processor doesn't really matter - be it VIA, AMD K6/K7, Pentium I/II/III/Celeron) with 2 NICS should do the job perfectly.. But the set up is non trivial. Prehaps you would like to package a cable/adsl router system? I have one at home and would dread having to duplicate it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd, R.M.P.E House, 10 Hartom St. Har Hotzvim Jerusalem, 91450 Israel Tel: +972-2-5417-356 Cell: +972-55-667-090 Do sysadmins count networked sheep? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rh 8.0 and python-gtk1
i have upgraded my redhat to 8.0 my old pygtk programs do not work anymore. it imports pygtk but does not recognize gtk.GtkWindow() how do i cause python to load the pygtk module drom the path i specify ? erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't send mail
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in the case of mutt it will pull pop3 but will not push via SMTP, it insists on local injection and therefore takes away the option to use a remote server Interesting, and rather odd, I'd say. Do they justify it in any way? Apart from being picky about their target audience, that is? From the mutt faq: You can't. Mutt is a MUA (Mail User Agent), not a MTA (Mail Transport Agent). Other email programs include MTA functionality but the Mutt way is to use the proper tool for each task, instead of making a giant program that does everything. In short, it's not Mutt's job to get the mail to a remote SMTP server. If your system does not have a properly configured MTA such as sendmail for Mutt to use, and you only need one to send all emails to a remote SMTP server for further delivery, then you can get sSMTP from ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/ and install that. sSMTP is easy to set up but very minimalistic, so you might want to check out nullmailer at http://www.em.ca/~bruceg/nullmailer/ instead. nullmailer can queue mails when the smarthost is down and then send them when it's up again. From my experince, pine's smtp handling is far from being perfect when the network is not available. Other mailers (kmail, mozilla, outlook) keep an outgoing queue, which is rather confusing to users, and indeed a replication of an MTA functionality. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
(this will be my last email to the mailing list on the subject, due to its off-topicness.) On 30 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 30 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Well, IIRC in September 2000 Intel lost $91 billion in one day... you surely realize these are not losses 'in one day'. the stock value of the company (or of its holdings) dropped over a period of time, and in their reports for a given quarter, they decided to adjust their 'reported money worth' to (part of) this drop in stock prices. thus, this is loss just 'on paper', much like it was a gain just 'on paper' when the stock prices shot to the skies. It was a loss in one trading day. If you were to buy (the whole of) Intel in the morning and sell it in the evening you would have lost 91 billion dollars (wrong, of course - you would be a market maker for Intel then). Think what you may of stock prices, they reflect what the markets think of how much a company is worth, which is just about the only half-reasonable notion of value there is. I did not quite understand the they decided in what you wrote - they do not decide what their stock is worth. obviously, we're talking about two different things. you're talking about 'market price' of a company. when this price drops, the company does not loose money - its share holders do. i was talking about the 'value assesment' of a company's holdings, as written in its books. this is something that is in control by the management of the company - not by the stock market. if company A holds part of company B, and company B's price in the stock market dropped - then company A does not have to change the value it attaches to its share of company B, if they think this change is 'temporary'. and when the price of a stock falls or jumps on any given day, this is usually deemed as temporary by most managements. furthermore, when a company is sold or merged, usually a 'value assesment' is being ordered from a financial consultant by the buyers and by the sellers - and it often does not match the stock price. Actually, IIRC, in that particular case (Intel again) there were no real losses in your definition. On that day (or maybe the day before) Intel reported that their European sales grew by a few per cent in the previous quarter. The problem was, the world was expecting higher growth. That expectation was of course reflected in INTC stock price (if you look at the graph, there was a sharp rise before that drop). This is identical to the situation with AOL/TW, in principle, but on a much shorter time scale. when i refer to losses - i refer to what the company writes in its quarterly and yearly reports to the stock market - the figures there got little to do with the stock price of the company. for example, when lucent lost almost 50$ billion in one quarter during 2000, it was mostly because they decided to 'write off' a lot of 'virtual incomes' (i.e. sales that were written on paper, for which they got no money, and which they financed with their own money). the loss happened a while before that already - its just then when they finally decided to 'write it off' in their formal report. its not that they shelled out money to someone else, and its also not that their stock price droped by that much - they only droped by that much _after_ they sent out these reports. so as you see - we're talking about different issues. btw, in israel, there is an attempt now to pass a decision that will force public copanies to value their holdings in other companies based on the stock price (its called Teken 15 by the people dealing with this) in order to avoid situations such as when Kur wrote E.C.I's value in its books, as being about 4 times their value in the stock market, after the change was not realy temporary. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rdesktop 1.2.0 released
Hi, rdesktop 1.2.0 has been released - feel free to download it at: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rdesktop/rdesktop-1.2.0.tar.gz The rdesktop web site (rdesktop.sf.net) should be updated soon with the release announcment and with the new features/fixed (finally you can switch to full screen with CTRL ALT ENTER). Note - it's still using RDP 4. Work has begun to add RDP 5 (and a bit later 5.1) support (which is used in Windows XP and in the upcoming .NOT/2003) Thanks, Hetz (posted here cause there seems to be lots of Linux users are using NT/2000 Terminal serivces) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
I am connected at barak, static ip. using mozilla On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 20:18, Meir Michanie wrote: while trying to access one of the projects hosted at your domain: http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I am accessing the site form Israel and it seems that the site is running some kind of script. I fund this very disturbing, Please do something on the matter. -- QOTD: I tried buying a goat instead of a lawn tractor; had to return it though. Couldn't figure out a way to connect the snow blower. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- QOTD: I tried buying a goat instead of a lawn tractor; had to return it though. Couldn't figure out a way to connect the snow blower. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003, Meir Michanie wrote about RE: politics at sourceforge hosters.: anybody using barak? I got to this site without a hitch. But it does seem strange. http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I can confirm the same redirection when connected via Netvision. The redirection happens after a few seconds, with a meta http-equiv=refresh tag. Does sourceforge let people run SSI or CGI as the content of their homepage?? The drip.sourceforge.net page (once you get rid of the automatic redirection) says that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is its webmaster - so you can try crying out to him, but you'll probably not manage to convince him. The people you should probably complain to (and I see that you already did) are Sourceforge, who might want to take that homepage down as they want to give home to software development, not political arguments. Also, if that software is GPLed, preventing Israelis from getting the source is a violation of the GPL. By the way, it appears that the boycott site (the one you got redirected into) itself is run by a German Muslim, and as much as you and I don't like it, there is apparently nothing illegal or even abusive about it, so I would recommend you don't try to complain about that site. Incidentally (and completely off-topic), if anybody can get me a can of ZamZam Cola (which is what that site recommends instead of Coca-Cola...), I'd be really happy :) Please Email me privately if you can get one. I found it really odd that Muslims would name a cola brand after a holy shrine... -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Jan 30 2003, 28 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |I am the world's greatest authority on my http://nadav.harel.org.il |own opinion. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
Nadav Har'El wrote: Also, if that software is GPLed, preventing Israelis from getting the source is a violation of the GPL. How exactly? The GPL does not require them to make the software available to you. If someone else made the software available to you, it is that someone's responsibility to make the sources available as well, not the original maintainer's. As such, if someone gave you the software, and then said you should download the sources from sourceforge, and then sourceforge is unavailable to you, it is the person who gave you the software that is in GPL violation, not sourceforge. In short, I don't see the GPL violation here. This may be a sourceforge policy violation (and I'm rather hoping it is), and that's something else. Shachar P.S. I find is most strange that it is ISRAELIES that are directed to a boycott Israel site. It's not as if wer'e likely to be convinced. P.P.S. I'm from actcom, and I can get to the site. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spam mail filter
Sorry to join this discussion so late. Since I have to use my machine mostly on w2000 I am looking for a free solution for mail filtering. Tried annoyance-filter using cygwin environment but there are times it gets stuck and takes 98% CPU. I liked the proxy stuff though. Any recommendation? shlomo solomon wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 21:39, Amit Margalit wrote: The debug info is printed to stderr, but KMail may be capturing this into /dev/null. See if you can configure KMail to do otherwise. Do you start KMail from an icon / menu? If yes, try starting from commandline and see if you get any debug messages on that xterm. I tried that and it didn't give any messages, so maybe they are being sent to /dev/null :-( But, I do have some news and a theory. I'd be interested to know if it makes sense. After removing the --local switch, performance again deteriorated, but it's not nearly as bad as it was before. Without SpamAssassin, I download 50 messages in about a minute or two. When I originally tried SpamAssassin, it took me about a minute per message!!! Now, I'm getting about 4 e-mails downloaded in a minute. On the other hand, my filtering results were fairly good, but not at all as good as what you wrote about. But, now, all of a sudden, with no change to the system, I'm getting results as good as yours. Before, NONE of the e-mails were rejected by Razor2 and I was missing about 25% of the spam. Now, Razor is rejecting 60% (like your statistics) and in the past week, I've had 147 spams, only 5 misses, and only 4 false positives. The false positives were all from HTML formatted mailing lists (including lots of advertising) so I can't blame SpamAssassin for the errors. Now, here's my theory. Is it possible that for some reason, during the week I tried SpamAssassin originally (beginning of January) the Razor2 server was down? If that's the case, it would explain why I had absolutely no spam rejected by Razor, and maybe there was a timeout of some sort causing the terrible performance of SpamAssassin. I'm still not happy with the 4 messages per minute, but at least I can live with that - not like one a minute on my previous attempt. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thanks. David Harel, == Home office +972 4 6921986 Fax:+972 4 6921986 Cellular: +972 54 534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
Meir Michanie wrote: while trying to access one of the projects hosted at your domain: http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I am accessing the site form Israel and it seems that the site is running some kind of script. I fund this very disturbing, Please do something on the matter. Same from Internet Zahav DAF = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
On Thursday 30 January 2003 20:18, Meir Michanie wrote: while trying to access one of the projects hosted at your domain: http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I am accessing the site form Israel and it seems that the site is running some kind of script. I fund this very disturbing, Please do something on the matter. Here's the IRC log from sourceforge people... hetz oh, hi ;) hetz well, there's a web site that if accessed here from Israel, it redirects you to a boycott Israel web site hetz is this allowed? kennyt oye burley hetz: We will be looking into that issue next week hetz ok - it's drip.sf.net moorman hetz: yep -- we've received a couple reports about this moorman hetz: we will be pursuing this early next week hetz oh, ok, thanks Hope it helps, Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
Same from Internet Zahav Dunno, works fine here (Internet Zahav as well). Alexander Maryanovsky. At 23:06 30.01.2003 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Meir Michanie wrote: while trying to access one of the projects hosted at your domain: http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I am accessing the site form Israel and it seems that the site is running some kind of script. I fund this very disturbing, Please do something on the matter. Same from Internet Zahav DAF = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003, Meir Michanie wrote about RE: politics at sourceforge hosters.: anybody using barak? I got to this site without a hitch. But it does seem strange. http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I can confirm the same redirection when connected via Netvision. The redirection happens after a few seconds, with a meta http-equiv=refresh tag. Does sourceforge let people run SSI or CGI as the content of their homepage?? I'm not gettingany redirection. Been looking at drip for a few minutes now -- Thanks, Uri http://translation.israel.net = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
OG It was a loss in one trading day. If you were to buy (the whole of) OG Intel in the morning and sell it in the evening you would have lost 91 OG billion dollars (wrong, of course - you would be a market maker for OG Intel then). Think what you may of stock prices, they reflect what OG the markets think of how much a company is worth, which is just about OG the only half-reasonable notion of value there is. I did not quite OG understand the they decided in what you wrote - they do not decide OG what their stock is worth. That is not what happened with AOL-TW. From my limited understanding of accounting what happened is that AOL-TW owns a number of other companies, like AOL per se, cable companies, etc., etc. Each of these companies has value (which in most cases to certains degree immaterial and given to various valuations and disagreement, as true value is only known when the thing is sold and that's only the value for that sale) that is represented in 'assets' in their balance sheets. Now let's suppose one of the companies lose its value, either because of stock fall or just because, for example, research that was considered as promising (and thus listed in 'assets') was declared as failed (and thus has zero value and has to be removed from 'assets'). The value of the 'assets' part of the balance sheet is decreased. Accordingly, the other part of balance sheet shoud decrease too, and the part where it decreases is 'revenue'. That's what happened to AOL-TW - it has to subtract from their assets about $45 last quarter and some serious sums on previous quarters, which even with positive operating revenues can lead to serious losses in the bottom line. That also means somewhere at the past some of these sums were probably listed as 'huge profits' of 'new economy dreadnought' and some managers once received fat bonuses for them :) Bottom line - these losses are not directly connected to AOL-TW stock prices, though in part may be consequences of price drops for various companies. P.S. IANAA(ccountant) ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-50-624945/\ JRRT LotR. whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
gk btw, in israel, there is an attempt now to pass a decision that gk will force public copanies to value their holdings in other gk companies based on the stock price (its called Teken 15 by the gk people dealing with this) in order to avoid situations such as gk when Kur wrote E.C.I's value in its books, as being about 4 gk times their value in the stock market, after the change was not gk realy temporary. As I understood from casually reading Maariv yesteday by chance, this effort has mostly failed for now, but people interested in it do not intend to give up. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-50-624945/\ JRRT LotR. whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
GPL is not the issue, sourceforge doesn't allow using their hosting for political purposes as this site does I guess the sourceforge people would make them drop it Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003, Meir Michanie wrote about RE: politics at sourceforge hosters.: anybody using barak? I got to this site without a hitch. But it does seem strange. http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I can confirm the same redirection when connected via Netvision. The redirection happens after a few seconds, with a meta http-equiv=refresh tag. Does sourceforge let people run SSI or CGI as the content of their homepage?? The drip.sourceforge.net page (once you get rid of the automatic redirection) says that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is its webmaster - so you can try crying out to him, but you'll probably not manage to convince him. The people you should probably complain to (and I see that you already did) are Sourceforge, who might want to take that homepage down as they want to give home to software development, not political arguments. Also, if that software is GPLed, preventing Israelis from getting the source is a violation of the GPL. By the way, it appears that the boycott site (the one you got redirected into) itself is run by a German Muslim, and as much as you and I don't like it, there is apparently nothing illegal or even abusive about it, so I would recommend you don't try to complain about that site. Incidentally (and completely off-topic), if anybody can get me a can of ZamZam Cola (which is what that site recommends instead of Coca-Cola...), I'd be really happy :) Please Email me privately if you can get one. I found it really odd that Muslims would name a cola brand after a holy shrine... -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Jan 30 2003, 28 Shevat 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |I am the world's greatest authority on my http://nadav.harel.org.il |own opinion. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
Meir Michanie wrote: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html Did you look at the site? Did you look at the list of companies? I say good luck to them with their boycott - they're gonna need it. Many of these companies are on the fortune 100 list. They'd never make a dent. It's a muslim religious anti-Israel site, I can get tens of these with a google search. Just like the anti-Arab sites and Neo-Nazi sites. Favorite quote: *Have you been the victim of SPAM e-mail's claiming to be from us?* This is the latest tactic of the zionists - to send 1000s of e-mails claiming to come from us. We have reported the incident to the police who have launched an investigation. We have never sent unsolicited e-mail's, in fact the only bulk mailing we have ever initiated has been our subscriber-only newsletter http://www.inminds.co.uk/newsletter.html - 10 messages in 4 years, the last two: 1 Sept 2002 17th May 2002. -- Arik = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.
Arik Baratz wrote: Favorite quote: *Have you been the victim of SPAM e-mail's claiming to be from us?* This is the latest tactic of the zionists - to send 1000s of e-mails claiming to come from us. We have reported the incident to the police who have launched an investigation. We have never sent unsolicited e-mail's, in fact the only bulk mailing we have ever initiated has been our subscriber-only newsletter http://www.inminds.co.uk/newsletter.html - 10 messages in 4 years, the last two: 1 Sept 2002 17th May 2002. I don't get what you are saying. Are you trying to say that it is impossible for these people to observe netiquette, merely because they hate us? Or are you saying that our camp does not have enough hotheads to find someone who would launch such a smearing campaign? If you think such things have not been done in the past, think again. The only thing that does not make sense with this regard is that launching a spoofed spam campaign gives them undue publicity. I would not, however, rule such a possibility off hand. You can claim that saying that this is a coordinated act of the zionists shows a paranoid search for organized actions with your enemies, but my answers to that are: 1. That is probably the reason that brought them to want to boycott Israel in the first place. 2. Your'e doing it too, on a daily basis. -- Arik = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
redirection question (was Re: politics at sourceforge hosters)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 23:06, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Meir Michanie wrote: while trying to access one of the projects hosted at your domain: http://drip.sourceforge.net/ I got redirected to a political site: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html Same from Internet Zahav Same from Israsrv - can someone explain why some ISPs are redirected and others not? How does this work? -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3.1 Mandrake binary?
I can't find a binary version of kde 3.1- am I missing something? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
