[JOB OFFER] MyHeritage is looking for a Senior Operations Engineer
MyHeritage is the largest family network worldwide, with more than 56 million registered users. We offer a friendly, informal and creative environment in an International start-up with many opportunities for growth. The company enjoys the strong backing of Accel and Index, the investors of Facebook and Skype. To date, it has raised 24 Million dollars and it is profitable. The MyHeritage data center has more than 150 servers running a variety of technology and systems such as Linux, MySQL, Apache, PHP, Memcached, HAProxy, Lucene and many more in-house developed systems. Senior Operations Engineer Responsibilities: * Participate in the design, implementation and ongoing management of major site applications and subsystems * Write scripts to monitor and automate processes * Align engineering development requirements with the capabilities of the site infrastructure * Participate in the design of architectures and automation that deliver against strict requirements for functionality, scalability, performance and reliability * Become proficient in understanding how each software component, system design, and configuration is linked together to form an end-to-end solution * Serve in an on-call rotation as an escalation contact for service trouble incidents. * Troubleshoot issues with hardware, software, applications and network * Document current and future configuration processes and policies Requirements: * BS or MS degree in Computer Science, Engineering, or related technical discipline * Minimum of 3 years administering Linux systems in a production environment * Proven ability to quickly learn and implement unfamiliar technologies * Configuration and maintenance of common applications such as Apache, Memcached, MySQL, NFS, DHCP, NTP, SSH, DNS, and SNMP * Strong knowledge of Linux kernel configuration, performance monitoring, and tuning * Advanced experience coding in one of the following languages: Shell, PHP, Python, Perl or Ruby * Experience working with load balancing technologies and large-scale web server farms * A strong background in Internet service deployment, provisioning, IP networking, service infrastructure, or software deployments * Excellent organization skills, project tracking abilities, communications skills * Detail oriented with excellent written and verbal communication skills You can send your CV directly to me or to j...@myheritage.com. Regards, Sagi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Satchmo project + Hebrew support
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Aviv Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, BTW: does anyone know what is required to interface with Zap? i tried contacting them but all i got was void. They ask you to build a very simple mirror site for them, which is basically an HTML page that displays the products in some clean tabular format (one for each category of the site). They recently started experimenting with XML input files (after refusing to deal with such files for years). They still won't touch my XML files though, because they are UTF-8 encoded and they say their system can only handle cp1255 encoded data (even though it delt with my UTF-8 encoded HTML pages just fine for years). Any way, whichever format they want, it should be trivial to build. Aviv Sagi
Re: Good corporate intranet site software?
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I had Twiki in the previous workplace and didn't like it so much but will give it a try if/when it comes to that. Alfresco also sounds interesting. For Drupal I suspect it might take more time to setup than the others but will look into it. My main focus about this is mostly about GUI interface (e.g. tables) - that's what the users care about. If all you want is a Wiki, then perhaps you should give MoinMoin ( http://moinmo.in/) a try. It has a full blown WYSIWYG editor (based on FCKEditor) that lets users format their documents just like they do in other programs (including tables, images, etc). It also has fairly good RTL support. Cheers, --Amos Sagi
Re: Open standards
Follow up - the OpenU recently published a pre-proposal for the project: See http://telem.openu.ac.il/resources/files/proposal.pdf Sagi On 8/29/07, Kfir Lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The Open University decided to open some of her books to the public. My friend want to give some arguments why they should publish the books in open standards. Please post some arguments that can persuade the head of this project to go Open. Thanks, Kfir
Re: Can a PHP script run in the background?
On 3/7/07, Uri Even-Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people, I wrote a PHP program that sends E-mail to 121 E-mail addresses at once [http://www.speedy.net/knesset/]. The problem is, it takes many seconds until the program completes sending all the E-mails. I want to give the user an instant feedback, and send E-mails later (after the HTML output is complete). How do I do it? Can I postpone the mail sending function? My program calls sendmail 121 times, and I think that's the only slow part of the program. The rest is quite fast. Can I call sendmail in such a way that PHP will regain control right away? Or alternatively, can I run another PHP script in the background? PHP can also run from command line, using the /usr/bin/php CLI. So instead of running the script from the browser you can make it run from a regular shell where the running time is not much of an issue. Once you do that you can also run it from cron. Here we have a mailing list manager in PHP that works this way: 1. The site administrator composes the email in a web interface. 2. The message is inserted into a database 3. Once an hour, a PHP script is ran through cron. It selects all the new messages from the database and mails them. Uri. Sagi
Limiting the number of simultaneous HTTP connection per IP
Hi List,We've recentely had trouble with some misbehaved web clients that opened dozens of HTTP connections to our web server, causing it to reach the total connection limit and just hang until they timeout or until the server is restarted. We're sure that this is not an intentional DoS attack and these clients will probably be fixed, but I would like to prevent the possibility of such attacks in the future, intentional or otherwise.I managed to replicate such attack against our server by running a trivial script on my workstation: for i in `seq 100`; do (nc HOST 80 ); doneOur servers are running Apache/2.0.54 on Debian Sarge.There are many Apache modules that aim to solve such problems. I've tested a few, and they all seem to not prevent it completely. These modules wait until the client sends a complete request and only then check if it should be blocked, serving Apache error page. They don't take any action if the client just opens a TCP connection and leaves it hanging, for example. I'm looking for a way to prevent such attack in a higher level, before it even reaches Apache. I found a iptables module named connlimit/iplimit, that is supposed to do just that, but it seems the official kernels do not support it and there's a serious lack of information about it. I guess I'm not the only one who experienced such problems and there must be a better known solutions.Please advice,Sagi
Re: Limiting the number of simultaneous HTTP connection per IP
(resending to list)On 10/10/06, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a way to prevent such attack in a higher level, before it even reaches Apache. I found a iptables module named connlimit/iplimit, that is supposed to do just that, but it seems the official kernels do not support it and there's a serious lack of information about it. connlimit seems to be indeed just the thing for you. Why do you think that official kernels don't support it? I have it on my system as part of the Debian Etch standard iptables package. What do you get when you try the examples in the manual page, for example?I have iptables v1.2.11 on my Debian Sarge setup. It seems like it supports connlimit, but there's nothing in the manpage about it. I do get the connlimit options when running 'iptables -m connlimit -h'. Problem is, when trying to add some actual iptables connlimit rule, I get an error:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m connlimit --connlimit-above 3 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-resetiptables: No chain/target/match by that name [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#From what I understood this is because the kernel itself lacks the connlimit module. According to the packages.debian.org file search, even -unstable kernels don't ship with this module. I'd rather not install a custom kernel on production servers.Sagi
Re: Limiting the number of simultaneous HTTP connection per IP
On 10/10/06, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a way to prevent such attack in a higher level, before it even reaches Apache. I found a iptables module named connlimit/iplimit, that is supposed to do just that, but it seems the official kernels do not support it and there's a serious lack of information about it. connlimit seems to be indeed just the thing for you. Why do you think that official kernels don't support it? I have it on my system as part of the Debian Etch standard iptables package. What do you get when you try the examples in the manual page, for example?I have iptables v1.2.11 on my Debian Sarge setup. It seems like it supports connlimit, but there's nothing in the manpage about it. I do get the connlimit options when running 'iptables -m connlimit -h'. Problem is, when trying to add some actual iptables connlimit rule, I get an error:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m connlimit --connlimit-above 3 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-resetiptables: No chain/target/match by that name [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#From what I understood this is because the kernel itself lacks the connlimit module. According to the packages.debian.org file search, even -unstable kernels don't ship with this module. You don't need the kernel's support - this module should be automatically loaded by iptables as required.Does dpkg -L iptables | grep connlimit give you? On my (unused) sarge partition I see /lib/iptables/libipt_connlimit.so which is just the file you need. The error message seems not to be about the iptables module but about something else.What does iptables -L give you? Have you tried to drop the --reject-with part just to see if it helps? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg -L iptables | grep connlimit /lib/iptables/libipt_connlimit.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -l /lib/iptables/libipt_connlimit.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3396 2004-12-02 02:38 /lib/iptables/libipt_connlimit.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 'iptables -L' initially shows an empty set of rules (test box) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m connlimit --connlimit-above 3 -j REJECT iptables: No chain/target/match by that name [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REJECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# so it does work without the connlimit option.. also, the iptables does have connlimit options, so it seems like it did load the module: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iptables -m connlimit -h|grep connlimit connlimit v1.2.11 options: [!] --connlimit-above n match if the number of existing tcp connections is (not) above n --connlimit-mask n group hosts using mask [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Sagi
Re: Backup advice
On 8/21/06, Ariel Biener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 11:54, Ami Chayun wrote: Hi all, I would like to get some advice for a backup utility with the following capabilities:Try rsnapshot ( http://www.rsnapshot.org)You may also want to try BackupPC, http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/, which is similar to rsnapshot but offers many other options and a web GUI for status information and easy recovery. Sagi
Re: granting Apache admin necessary rights
On 9/25/05, Michael Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to give a user rights to administer Apache2 webserver (SLES9).
As I see it, and given that there is no need to install aadditional
apache modules he only needs the ability to vi files in the
/etc/apache2 directory + /etc/sysconfig/apache2 and be able to
/etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|whatever} (or using rcapache2
- the SuSE'ish way)
What would be the most elegant to achieve this? Should I create a
separate user for this and then chown accordingly all/part apache2
files?
Create a new group named webadmin or similar, give the group write
access to these files and add the user to the group.
Let him run /etc/init.d/apache2 through sudo.
Sagi
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Re: granting Apache admin necessary rights
On 9/25/05, Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/25/05, Michael Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to give a user rights to administer Apache2 webserver (SLES9).
As I see it, and given that there is no need to install aadditional
apache modules he only needs the ability to vi files in the
/etc/apache2 directory + /etc/sysconfig/apache2 and be able to
/etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|whatever} (or using rcapache2
- the SuSE'ish way)
What would be the most elegant to achieve this? Should I create a
separate user for this and then chown accordingly all/part apache2
files?
Create a new group named webadmin or similar, give the group write
access to these files and add the user to the group.
Let him run /etc/init.d/apache2 through sudo.
One thing I forgot - there may be a security implication for this. The
apache config file contains the user which apache runs as. If you let
him edit this file, he can probably gain access to any other user on
the system, maybe even root.
Sagi
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Re: live backup / mirroring
On 8/4/05, Michael Ben-Nes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone I want to backup a file constantly as it change. Is it possible at all ? (re-posting to list) I think DRBD (http://www.drbd.org/) should able to do that at the block device level. I searched for such solution myself a few years ago (search for a thread named Live website mirroring or something similar in the archive) but meanwhile settled for hourly rsync job and never really tested DRBD. Another solution may be putting the data in a database with replication support, if possible in your environment, especially if it really constantly changes. You can probably find more related information in the Linux-HA website: http://www.linux-ha.org/ Sagi To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unstable SATA RAID5
Hi, I've recently installed a new server running Linux 2.6.8 with software RAID5 and 3 SATA HDD's. The relevant specs: Motherboard: Asus P4P800-E Deluxe CPU: P4 3GHZ SATA controllers: :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller (rev 02) :02:04.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 (FastTrak 78/SATA 378) (rev 02) The RAID5 contains 3 identical Maxtor 6Y160M0 hdd's. Each partititoned like: sdx1 raid1 / (1G) sdx2 raid5 lvm (rest) sdx3 swap (1G) The root partition is running RAID1 with 2 active disks and one spare. The rest is one big LVM volumne with /usr, /home and /var running on logical lvm voulmes. There is also a CDROM on hdc (normal ata controller). The server is running debian sarge (testing) / linux 2.6.8-686-smp. For server ran fine for about 3 weeks but been locked up once a week or so. Since it is colocated I was not able to see the exact error message, but reboot brought it back up. After the 3rd or 4th crash I've been able to get part of the error message from the colocation support and figure that one of the disks, sdb, was probably whats causing the problem. So we dropped this disk from the arrays and kept running with partial array for about 10 days. In this period there server ran without any crashes. Yesterday I went to replace the bad disk with a new one. While syncing the disks I got this error message: ata2: command 0x35 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x20 scsi1: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: Write (10) 00 00 10 05 0f 00 0 08 00 current sdb: sense key Medium Error Additional sense: Write error - auto reallocation failed end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 1049871 ATA: abnormal status 0xD0 on port 0XEFA7 Ofcourse, it also locked the machine. I tried to reboot few times and got the same error (more or less) every time. I tried to take out the new disk, but still couldn't bring the array back up - somehow, mdadm confused the array and marked two disks as dirty. At this stage we brought a backup server on and I took this server back with me. Today I managed to correct the original array (using knoppix and mdadm assemble) and bring the server on. Then, I managed to add the broken disk back to the array (reminding - a new disk that replaced another broken disk) and it synced cleanly. I tried marking the other disks as failed (one at a time) and resyncing each, which went cleanly. Then, I tried to run few benchmarks using bonnie++. It ran fine for few hours, but then crashed again, with the same error message (well, host_stat was 0x21 instead of 0x20, and another sector). Again, I rebooted few times, each time getting the same error message. I'm not sure what happend, but eventually I managed to bring it back on, and started resyncing - while I'm writing this, it already ran for 30 mins and resynced 60% of the array. I'm not sure what should I do next. It doesn't seem like a problem with the disks as I tried a different couple. I'm pretty sure all the errors so far were on sdb - the second SATA port of the ICH5 controller. Did anyone else experience with similar setup/problems? Any hints? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] php3 app on php4
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:19:18 +0300, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hoped the only thing necessary would be to add this to my Apache's conf: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php3 and the PHP4 engine would parse the pages, but apperently it's broken... I get a blank page with no errors. has anyone got a clue? Is it really a blank page? try doing a view source, my guess is that you will see the PHP code there, which means the PHP code isn't interpreted. Does it work with normal PHP files (*.php)? if yes, the AddType line is sufficient. If not - you probably forgot to load the module (using the LoadModule/AddModule directives). Oh and ofcourse, did you restart apache? much appreciated, Ira. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick MySQL howto, anyone?
Ben-Nes Michael wrote: PG support real transactions and for long time. So does MySQL (with InnoDB tables). PG support Forigen Keys which for my openion is reason number one becouse when you delete of a row you can tell the DB to delete all the otheres which connected to it automaticly and dont have to send a delete querry for each time. So does MySQL (again, with InnoDB). PG support stored procedure - in other word you can run your small internal program in the server written in plpgsql, python, perl and now even php. this is a major benefit as you can run lots of querry in one call + lots of calculation much faster then MySQL. I've been working with MySQL for few (4?) years now, partly powering few big israeli ecommerce websites. I only missed this feature once - when we needed to do on the fly currency conversion. However, we solved it by writing a small MySQL module in C. If I had to write a new application day, from scratch, I would probably consider postgresql again. However, your statement regarding mysql not being suitable for anything more than one table website is very untrue. MySQL still has its advantages over postgresql (such as better documentation and much larger userbase, but also technical features like built in replication and fulltext search). Moreover, MySQL will get real i18n support and subqueries support over the next few months (v4.1), and support for features like real stored procedures and cursors over the next year (v5) Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick MySQL howto, anyone?
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Sagi Bashari wrote: I've been working with MySQL for few (4?) years now, partly powering few big israeli ecommerce websites. I only missed this feature once - when we needed to do on the fly currency conversion. However, we solved it by writing a small MySQL module in C. Leaving the controversial license aside (more precisely, the controversial license's interpretation by MySQL AB), it was my understanding that MySQL was designed with speed, rather than data integrity, in mind. As such, the most lacking feature to me is a totally guarantee that no matter what abuse the database, database server, and database server machine go through, my data is in a consistent state. While I understand that this usually comes into play in the form of features such as transactions etc., I don't understand how such features can be retrofitted into a database. Maybe you can help shed some light on that point for me. I can only speak from my experience. I never lost any data because of MySQL. MySQL supports transactions for few years now so this is not an issue for me. One thing, though. Unlike some other DB's, MySQL data types are not totally strict - if you try to insert data of a wrong type it will usually try to convert it instead of throwing an error. This may lead to data loss if your application is poorly written. If I had to write a new application day, from scratch, I would probably consider postgresql again. However, your statement regarding mysql not being suitable for anything more than one table website is very untrue. Again, trying hard not to troll. Can you explain why you would consider PG for new applications if MySQL has what a db user would require? Because I may need some features that MySQL lacks, like i18n support and stored procedures. It depends on what the project's demands. MySQL still has its advantages over postgresql (such as better documentation and much larger userbase, but also technical features like built in replication and fulltext search). Moreover, MySQL will get real i18n support and subqueries support over the next few months (v4.1), When you say real i18n support, what do you mean? What does MySQL not support at the moment? Currently, there is no unicode support in the stable version. If you store such data right now, functions like LENGTH() or fulltext support will not function correctly. However this will be solved with the release of 4.1 (been in alpha/beta stages for ages now, will hopefully be released before the end of the year). and support for features like real stored procedures and cursors over the next year (v5) The thing is that I'm not comfortable referring to not-yet existing features. PostgreSQL is going to have some sort of native Windows support in the upcoming version. It's already committed into CVS. Still, this is not something you may necessarily want to run a production server on. They currently focus on reliability, rather than speed, which may result in it being faster and more efficient to run it in cygwin or in colinux. How much will MySQL stored procedures, or for that matter, transactions, suffer from the same symptoms? Those features already exists in the development versions. Once a stable version will be released, I believe it will be stable. They've been working on those features for few years now. To me (and please correct me if I'm wrong) it seems there is little doubt that PostgreSQL is FAR more feature complete than MySQL. It has had foreign keys, transactions and stored procedures for ages. Same goes for Unicode support and cursors (readonly, I'm afraid). State of the art (i.e. - still in development) in Postgresql currently talks about nested transactions, checkpoints, and PITR (Point In Time Recovery), which are likely to still be YEARS away in MySQL (ignorance disclaimer from above applied). It has a license that is suited, without any controversy, to both free and commercial projects. With such considerations, one has to ask (and I do here), what are the reasons for choosing MySQL? As far as I can see, new projects should mostly consider Postgresql vs. Firebird. I never said anything against PostgreSQL. I can't - My experience with is is very, very limited. My point is only that Michael's statement, that MySQL is not suitable for more than one table website, is totally untrue. The vast majority of small to medium websites will run with MySQL without any problem. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick MySQL howto, anyone?
On 17/06/2004 19:12, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Sagi Bashari wrote: I can only speak from my experience. I never lost any data because of MySQL. MySQL supports transactions for few years now so this is not an issue for me. I was mainly referring to data integrity in the face of power failure/server segmentation fault in the middle of a transaction. These are the type of problems that are extremely uncommon, but extremely dangerous for that very same reason. Pg's disk data structure is built like a journaled file system, in order to give an assurance against precisely these type of problems. As far as I understood, MySQL's speed comes precisely from the lack of this structure. To me, these are more important than logical transactions when everything is ok. That is also what I meant when I said I'm not sure how you can retrofit such features into an existing database. I believe InnoDB offers the same advantages. You may read about it here: http://www.innodb.com/howtouse.php Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IrDA
I have the STLabs one and it works. I didn't do much with it under linux, but I did manage to grab some basic info from my cell. I didn't use it long enough to know if there are any problems with it (the cell application wasn't mature enough, I'm pretty sure it was only some command line dump utility). Sagi Eran Tromer wrote: Hi, Any idea where I can get a Linux-supported IrDA USB adapter in Israel? Specifically, will the ST Lab USB-IrDA adapters (http://www.st-lab.com/USBIRDA.html, ~130NIS) work? Alternatively, any idea where I can find the thingy which connects to motherboard IrDA headers, and whether these tend to work with Linux? (I think they appear as a standard serial port.) Eran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secured uploads
Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hi all, I have a problem I think some people here will be able to help me with. I want some users to be able to upload files to some site.The solution used right now, is getting the private ssh keys from the users, and letting the users to use scp to copy files to the remote server. However, I discovered that I can use ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sh to get a basic shell on the box, and delete files on that dir (or others). I would like to know what other solutions can you recommend me. A simple html form over https? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Fw: /bin/bash problem
You forgot the 'grep': grep bwurzbur /etc/passwd | od -c Sagi Amir Spivak wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:# bwurzbur /etc/passwd | od -c bash: bwurzbur: command not found 000 - Original Message - From: Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Amir Spivak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linux mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Fw: /bin/bash problem On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 07:12:36PM +0200, Amir Spivak wrote: his line from /etc/passwd: bwurzbur:x:558:100:Benjamin Wurzburger:/home/bwurzbur:/bin/bash Are you sure it has no whitespace in the end? Please send this: grep bwurzbur /etc/passwd | od -c What makes it even more suspicious is that in Omer's Reply there is no space between '/bin/bash' and 'does not exist' while in your original email, in the html version (and this one time it was valuable, sending html mail), it's '/bin/bashnbsp; does not exist'. I don't know exactly how you copy/pasted it, but either you added a strong space somehow or it was there. -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portly port
As root: netstat -lnp The last parameter is the pid/name of the listening program. Sagi Aaron wrote: Hi, I am trying to run zope but it complains that a process is using port 8081 how do I determine what is using that port so I can disable it? Thanks Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Discountbank.net web site
On 27/01/2004 08:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention the fact that new features of Poalim's web site, such as mail messages, work ONLY WITH IE. Ah, is that so? That's worrying, as I currently use Mozilla to track an account there. Hope they don't deteriorate too much in that direction. I just tried it with mozilla (firebird 0.7, on windows) and the hebrew in all the menus is reversed. The content itself is visible. BTW, it looks like their main website is visible with mozilla now, I used to get an IE only page. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SATA support in linux debian
Hi We want to install SATA RAID on one of our servers. 1. Can anyone recommend a good controller that does hardware raid (not in driver/kernel level) and is fully supported under linux? 2. How am I supposed to install debian on such system? In the past when I had to install a software raid on debian I had to first install it on normal hdd and then install the raid tools, recompile the kernel myself and setup the raid manually. It was a real pain comparing to the nice GUI that redhat has for that during the standard installation process. From what I understand the current debian installer does not support SATA, let alone RAID. Does this mean that I will have to install the system on normal IDE hdd and then move it to SATA disks manually, after installing a new kernel? Any way to make this process easier? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA support in linux debian
On 22/01/2004 17:36, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:57:57PM +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote: 1. Can anyone recommend a good controller that does hardware raid (not in driver/kernel level) and is fully supported under linux? There was a recent discussion on linux-kernel on why software raid is better for you. To sum up: you aren't locked into a single vendor's metadata format, and most hardware raids just end up doing software raids anyway. See the archives or kernel traffic for the details. After seeing the prices of the real hardware raid controllers I might re-consider that. Which SATA controller (without raid) has the best support for linux, then? from what I heard many have binary drivers only. I'm going to use it in intel isp1100 servers that is pretty old now. Should I expect any problems with the BIOS? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] - some help in contacting a supplier
I believe it is Brain Box Computers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-6222990 On 22/12/2003 14:55, Assaf Flatto wrote: Hi In the instaparty last year in the Rennim Kanyoyn , there was s hardware vendor . can some one send me off list the name and phone number of that vendor ? Thanks Assaf = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail and Hebrew]
On 24/11/2003 03:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Life could be much easier if Mozilla supported RTL+LTR switching. At the moment, we must use IE for proper hebrew support of mail composing. Tell that to my mom that uses mozilla Is there any option to set the direction to RTL for hebrew text messages? Right now every hebrew email I get is aligned to the left. I have the same problem when composing an email, I have to send it as HTML to align it properly, and even then it only changes the alignment and not the real message direction. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail and Hebrew]
On 24/11/2003 13:35, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Is there any option to set the direction to RTL for hebrew text messages? Right now every hebrew email I get is aligned to the left. I have the same problem when composing an email, I have to send it as HTML to align it properly, and even then it only changes the alignment and not the real message direction. The reader's software just needs to figure out this is RTL. Right, but mozilla doesn't do that.. A text has no base direction attribute. But what's wrong with simply sending Hebrew text? The problem is that mozilla doesn't detect the base direction, so when I write everything is aligned to the left - and even if I change the alignment manually using the toolbar (for HTML emails) it only sets the alignment - no option for setting the base direction. Obviously, the wrong thing with that is that any punctuation/numbers/english within the hebrew text will not be aligned correctly. Currently using Mozilla Thunderbird 0.3, but I believe the problem also exists in the current stable Mozilla Mail. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live website mirroring
On 25/09/2003 10:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sollution which confronts the problem in a totally different way. Given the time and resources, what you can do is connect both servers to a NAS switch, mapping them the same storage. It's a possible solution, but: 1. The NAS is still a single point of failure. 2. They are talking about having a server at a different location, so they'll need to replicate the NAS as well. We would like to do this with our current hardware at this stage, we already have RAID1 on both servers so I would just like to keep the arrays identical. Right now we will stick to having both servers at the same location, my question was about changing the IP address dynamically if something happens if we ever decide to setup a backup server on another location. My suggestion for a general direction to investigate: 1. Check rsync more closely - as far as I remember from using it, it is actually a very efficient program in CPU, memory, and network usage. Yes, but I'm not sure that running it every 10 minutes is a good idea, especially if you have many files and some of them are being changed while rsync is running. I found out about a kernel module named enbd which is supposed to do RAID over network somehow, but I would like to hear about the experience of others before I start to play with it. 2. What about using a content-management (CM) solution which manages your site instead of handling files manualy? Keeping track of your files through a CM software will enable it to copy over every file when it's updated, and it can also sort-of track changes and versions. I can't recall a particular software for this, maybe you can start by looking for WebDAV implementations (e.g. Apache's WebDAV module). I'm not sure. Basically we're storing all the data in our database and only use the filesystem for files - image files, flash files, website root directories etc. All the files must be accessible by apache (it is serving the images directly, we don't read them in our application) . Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live website mirroring
On 25/09/2003 21:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But still, wouldn't that keep the NAS as a single point of failure? Or is the NAS implemented by some HA cluster of servers? Also, the original author said, as far as I understood it, that when the backup server moves to a separate location he won't be able to use the same IP (or maybe he can channel the same IP over IP?) For now both servers will be on the same location. I might have confused you when I asked that question, it wasn't directly connected to the original question (how to sync the data directories and database) - I just wanted to know if such thing as possible. You confirmed my original thoughts about the DNS in your previous message. what's not too good is that sessions are lost, so if youre application is stateful, your users will feel the crash that happened, while if it's stateless the damage will be much smaller. If your application is writen as a Java web-app then you can take advantage of clustered Servlet engines, which enable sharing of sessions in a cluster, just for this kind of situations (in addition to the scalability advantage). Does PHP have such stuff? Thats not a problem. PHP uses plain files to store sessions data, so all I need to do is to set the sessions directory to a location that is shared by both servers. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live website mirroring
On 25/09/2003 21:58, Lior Kaplan wrote: As far as I know, the cost of SAN is very high. It also gives your more GB then you need. And if you need less GB than what given - you just pay too much extra on each GB. Exactly. Those solutions are way out of our current budget - and right now the files that we store outside the database do not even reach 1GB so we won't invest in such expensive solution. 3. using another computer for db/files and two servers to serve the files (sure, has lower performance). We don't need this, our system runs perfectly on our server. My original idea was having 1 low end PC as a backup - not as an extra server (it won't be used when the main server is up). So going back to my original question: is there a simple way to synchronize a directory between two linux servers, like rsync does -- but in real time? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
live website mirroring
Hello We are running a website that is written in PHP and is using a MySQL database. It runs on Linux, of course. We're trying to find a method to setup a complete mirror of the server on a standby server that we can bring up easily if the main server goes down. The website is very dynamic and data changes all the time. I'm looking for a way to keep the standby server in identical state as the master server. After doing some research I found out that I could use the built-in MySQL replication for that, but we also have dynamic data directories on our server - I could setup an rsync script that runs every few minutes, but it'll probably take too many resources and won't be accurate. I would like to hear the experiences of others who had the same problem (and hopefully solved it). * Both servers are running at the same location right now, so I can takeover the main IP address easily. However, we considered having a backup server on another location (where we can't use the same ip address). Is there any way to do this? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postfix e-mail filter - looking for information
On 10/09/2003 17:49, Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles wrote: Does anyone know where one could find detailed information about writing a mail filter for Postfix ? See http://www.securitysage.com/guides/postfix_uce.html They have some great filters there, you can take a look and see how they wrote them. Someone posted it few weeks ago to this list (thanks!) and we've been using them since, I highly recommend anyone who's using postfix to try those filters - we've seen _huge_ decrease in spam and viruses/worms to our server (we've been only using blacklists before). NOTE: you might have to use postfix2 to get some of the filters to work, even though I didn't see it mentioned there. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
servers running the free version of redhat
Hi, RedHat recently issued a new policy regarding their free (or now community) versions of Red Hat. One of the main changes is that the lifetime of the free versions is now only 1 year - they say they will not release any errata for those versions, even not if you subscribe to RHN. You can get more information about this here: http://www.redhat.com/software/whichlinux.html I'm in charge of many servers running free redhat, some of them are still running RedHat 6.x. It's understandable that 6.x now becomes supported, but this policy means that even the 7.3 version (which many of us still install on new servers) will not be supported in few months! I decided to install debian on new servers, but the question is - what should I (and the rest of the users running those versions of redhat - and there are many, many of them) do? I also wonder if redhat really won't release security updates for those machines - it means that if a new hole is found it can leave hundreds of thousands of machines without an official software update. So, what the rest of you are doing? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gettext charsets
Hi, I'm trying to use gettext with php. I have a .po file that contains hebrew strings in UTF8 charset, and I'm using gettext to display them in ISO8 webpage. When I set the locale to he_IL gettext converts the encoding to ISO8 automatically. If I want to display UTF8 I use he_IL.UTF-8. It works as expected, but when I browse through the site - sometimes simply press reload a few times - the hebrew string appers as gibrish (which probably means that gettext didnt do the charset conversion for that request). I find it really weird, because it happens totally randomly: I even ran a script that wget specific page 50 times, and about 5 files were corrupted. I have no idea where to start looking for a solution, any help will be appreciated. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: currency in the hebrew locale
On 11/08/2003 23:02, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2003 12:35, Sagi Bashari wrote: Hello, I'm trying to use the money_format() function in PHP (same as strfmon() in C) to format a currency string. However it looks like it uses the ?? (shin chet) as the nis symbol (without gershayim) and not the real symbol (maybe because not all the fonts support it). Probably because whoever composed the Israeli locale wasn't familiar with it. Maybe we should send them a patch then? Edit /usr/share/i18n/locales/he_IL and change: 1. currency_symbol from U05E9U05D7 to 20AA. 2. p_cs_precedes from 1 to 0 2. n_cs_precedes from 1 to 0 Then, recompile your he_IL locale: $ localedef -f CP1255 -i he_IL he_IL (note I use CP1255 instead of ISO-8859-8 on purpose, since the ISO-8859-8 doesn't contain the New Sheqel sign) $ localedef -f UTF-8 -i he_IL UTF-8 Thanks, that did the trick! the currency_symbol is U20AA and not 20AA though. If anyone else is trying this - you must restart apache to make it work inside your PHP code. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
currency in the hebrew locale
Hello, I'm trying to use the money_format() function in PHP (same as strfmon() in C) to format a currency string. However it looks like it uses the ?? (shin chet) as the nis symbol (without gershayim) and not the real symbol (maybe because not all the fonts support it). It also displays the symbol before the number and not after it. 1. Is there anyway to fix it? 2. What other applications like KDE do? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache 2.0
On 30/07/2003 18:28, Tal Achituv wrote: Hi all! I have two major problems after installing RH9 over my RH7.3, The new apache had many problems with the configuration, Most of which I solved using the apache-online documentation. I am left with two problems unsolved: 1) Hebrew pages are sent as western encoding... the text is right but for some reason the browser sets itself to western instead of Hebrew. if I set it to Hebrew its fine (until I refresh or click a link). I can think of two options to solve this: a) bad solution: embed a encoding tag in every HTML file (did not work, I might had a mistake in the tag) b) fix the apache configuration (I have no idea what parameters are causing this) Just comment the default encoding in httpd.conf to make it use the meta tag in your files. HTML headers have higher priority than meta tags. 2) the 2nd problem is that my PHP script does not recognize parameters, like test.php?active=truebad=good the parameters $active $bad are both empty (WHY?!? OH WHY??) Thats because register_globals is turned off by default since php4.1 or so. If you can, you should use the super globals $_GET, $_POST, etc instead. Or you can enable it in php.ini. Thanks, As you can probably see - I am very frustrated. Tal Achituv. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache 2.0
On 30/07/2003 21:30, Oded Arbel wrote: Just comment the default encoding in httpd.conf to make it use the meta tag in your files. HTML headers have higher priority than meta tags. This is not correct - HTML meta tags override HTTP headers, as they are a higher level of abstraction and convey a knowledge the lower level cannot have, of the content of the transmission. I know there are some broken browsers (no names) which for some weird combination of settings disregard HTML meta tags in favor of headers, but this is hardly the norm, nor the standard. From the apache manual (http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset): This directive specifies the name of the character set that will be added to any response that does not have any parameter on the content type in the HTTP headers. This will override any character set specified in the body of the document via a |META| tag. A setting of |AddDefaultCharset Off| disables this functionality. |AddDefaultCharset On| enables Apache's internal default charset of |iso-8859-1| as required by the directive. You can also specify an alternate charset to be used. For example: | AddDefaultCharset utf-8 | |It seems wrong to me too, but thats what they say. | |Sagi | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fan or no Fan? (a bit off-topic)
On 08/01/2003 17:51, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I don't have much experience or knowledge of this issue, so I'm asking here... Those new IDE hard drives that are sold today (40GB and up) with 7200 RPMS are getting hot, as everyone knows (or felt).. So my question is - when a fan is needed, and what sort of fan? I've seen those 3-fans that takes a 5.25 tray (where you can stick a CDROM drive) but I don't know how much they're usefull (from my experience - they're not).. Same question about 2 100GB drives - how many fans and which ones? All drives are IDE, 7200 RPM speed.. On my PC I have a fan that screws on top of the HDD - it works well and not too loud. However, in normal midi-tower you can only have one HDD with it - because it's too large to get in the normal HDD box, so you need to install t it under all the other HDDs. You can also buy a good case with space for a fan for each HDD. I bought Chieftec DRAGON FULL TOWER case for one of my servers and there you have special space for a fan, for each of the HDDs. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl wrapper
On 31/12/2002 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i need to connect to an ssl-imap server. currently i use stunnel, but it's stripped binary is 700k in size which is too much. does anyone knows on a smaller ssl-wrapper (client only) ? I think that fetchmail can do that. Just checked, and the binary is 216k. However, you'll probably have to download the messages, something you probably won't want to do if you use IMAP. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postfix causing very high load average
Hi, I just setuped a new server. It is only running postfix at this time, relaying mail from another server. The distribution is RedHat 7.3 with all of the updates. There is a large amount of mail in the queue (about 17k mails). The load average goes upto 8.x. If I kill postfix, it goes back down to 0.x. The strange thing is that top shows that the cpu usage is pretty low: CPU0 states: 1.2% user, 3.2% system, 0.4% nice, 95.1% idle CPU1 states: 1.4% user, 2.3% system, 0.4% nice, 95.3% idle Hardware is not the problem. The machine is a dual Athlon MP 2000 with 1GB of DDRAM and 2 IDE hdds with 8MB cache in RAID1. It should be able to handle that kind of work without any problem. I'm using ext3. Any ideas/suggestions? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix causing very high load average
That's where I took the original command from. I can't change the partition settings or repartition the harddisk because /var is a very big partition that is also used for data (database,web). However i have empty 6GB partition on the harddisk. I don't need that much for spool directory, is it possible to repartition the harddisk while the RAID (linux MD raid) is working? the linux software raid howto says that you shouldn't. Is there any reason for this? (after you turn off the RAID on the partition that you want to delete, ofcourse). Is it possible to create virtual partition on a file (using another filesystem format)? Sagi On 14/11/2002 15:15, Henry Ficher wrote: Take a look here: http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/ext3.shtml Cheers, Henry Sagi Bashari wrote: On 14/11/2002 13:51, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Sagi Bashari wrote: Hi, I just setuped a new server. It is only running postfix at this time, relaying mail from another server. The distribution is RedHat 7.3 with all of the updates. There is a large amount of mail in the queue (about 17k mails). The load average goes upto 8.x. If I kill postfix, it goes back down to 0.x. The strange thing is that top shows that the cpu usage is pretty low: CPU0 states:1.2% user, 3.2% system, 0.4% nice, 95.1% idle CPU1 states:1.4% user, 2.3% system, 0.4% nice, 95.3% idle Looks like the machine is over-swapping. Actually, it's not swapping at all: [sagi@black sagi]$ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1006991 14 0151 547 -/+ buffers/cache:293712 Swap: 1992 0 1992 [sagi@black sagi]$ Hardware is not the problem. The machine is a dual Athlon MP 2000 with 1GB of DDRAM and 2 IDE hdds with 8MB cache in RAID1. It should be able to handle that kind of work without any problem. I'm using ext3. Any ideas/suggestions? Maybe limit the number of postfix processes (of some kind?) No, it's not that: [sagi@black sagi]$ ps auxww|grep -ic postfix 77 [sagi@black sagi]$ Use postfix's various concurrecy limitations. Have a look at http://postfix.openu.ac.il/rate.html After looking in the postfix users archive, I suspect that it is a filesystem issue. I ran 'chattr -R -S +A' on the queue spool dir like someone suggested there (to disable atime/sync updates). It did reduce the load a bit, but it is still too high. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix causing very high load average
On 14/11/2002 16:50, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Sagi Bashari, from the post of Thu, 14 Nov: I can't change the partition settings or repartition the harddisk because /var is a very big partition that is also used for data (database,web). time to split it up. worth a few minutes of downtime to improve relyability and performance. I only have remote access to the server (it is colocated). I asked here few weeks ago if there is a reason to put /var/www somewhere else (like /home) and the answer I received is that it is probably better to leave it where it is (because I also have dynamic data there). I can move /var to / and repartition /var. But I have software RAID running on this drive. Is it safe to do, remotely, when software RAID is activated on / and /home? However i have empty 6GB partition on the harddisk. I don't need that much for spool directory, is it possible to repartition the harddisk while the RAID (linux MD raid) is working? the linux software raid howto says that you shouldn't. Is there any reason for this? (after you turn off the RAID on the partition that you want to delete, ofcourse). look at EVMS, it will make many of those steps easier. Yes, you suggested that few weeks ago. But RedHat do not offer it as part of their official kernels, and I'd rather not compile it myself because I don't have physical access and kernel security updates are much easier with the official RPMs. Is it possible to create virtual partition on a file (using another filesystem format)? ugly, but possible. do it on the clean partition though, not in /var itself, since it's probably VERY fragmented. I might just allocate the free 6GB for the spool directory. Which filesystem should I use for it? reiserfs? it is full tiny files and directories: [root@black postfix]# find . -type d |wc -l 1323 [root@black postfix]# find . -type f |wc -l 25083 [root@black postfix]# du -sh 156M. [root@black postfix]# Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix causing very high load average
On 14/11/2002 17:30, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Sagi Bashari, from the post of Thu, 14 Nov: I can move /var to / and repartition /var. But I have software RAID running on this drive. Is it safe to do, remotely, when software RAID is activated on / and /home? probably OK, but you won't be able to see that directory till you reboot. mixing MD and non-MD on the same drive makes little sense to me though. I do not intend to mix MD and non-MD, I just need to delete existing MD partition and create several small partitions from it. look at EVMS, it will make many of those steps easier. Yes, you suggested that few weeks ago. But RedHat do not offer it as part of their official kernels, and I'd rather not compile it myself because I don't have physical access and kernel security updates are much easier with the official RPMs. humpf. no solutions without reboots then. try and find a clean hour at 3am when the server can be taken down for a while. I have no problem to reboot. It just has to be done remotely (and I have the knowledge and the resources to do it remotely). My question is just if it is safe to repartition free space on harddisk that is currently in use. Quoting http://iglu.org.il/LDP/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-4.html: Never NEVER *never* re-partition disks that are part of a running RAID. If you must alter the partition table on a disk which is a part of a RAID, stop the array first, then repartition. It just sounds strange, if linux treats the RAID members as normal drives. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: up2date server [was RH 8.0 - also as inDUHvidual files]
On 13/11/2002 10:29, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: Is it possible to install free up2date server on the server? Does RH have some info about building such server? Any links are welcome! http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=up2datesection=projectsx=0y=0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reducing the number of CDs required for an installation party?
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:20:01PM +0200, Michael Stolovitzsky wrote: On Saturday 09 November 2002 18:39, Shaul Karl wrote: On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 03:35:51PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Hi all, Guys, when we were in Ra'ananim, I brought 25 packs of cheap CDs from a sponsor. No one wanted to pay entire sheqel for a poor CD. What are you talking about? I can't remember anyone selling preburned CD sets, and we only had one working burne. Empty media wasn't the problem (if is what you are referring to), we had plenty, but no way to burn them. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reducing the number of CDs required for an installation party?
On 08/11/2002 23:21, Shaul Karl wrote: Yet I do believe that currently it will be best if every new installee will be given a CD set. In the party we had in Renanim many more people wanted a CD set for themselves than actually wanted us to install it. We didn't have any pre-burned CDs and only one functional burner, so only few actually got it. Maybe in the future we should sell CD sets (maybe ask someone who already does it, like guides.co.il like someone already offered), because giving away large quantities will be hard (actual burning time). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: increasing the keyboard's responsiveness
Arie Folger wrote: Hi, When typing in kde apps, I feel that typing has definitely become more sluggish lately (as opposed to earlier versions). Does this mean that it's time to upgrade (need a new job, first) or is this tweakable? Arie Folger I noticed that if you disconnect a PS/2 keyboard and then reconnect it while the computer is running the typing will be come much slower under Linux (until the next reboot). But it also happens on console, not only KDE. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redhat did it again - no howtos on iso images
On 27/10/2002 17:49, Arie Folger wrote: Did anybody else notice how HOWTOs have been effectively considered deprecated by RedHat? Any rpm anywhere available that sports a recent collection of HOWTOs? (yeah, yeah, I know, I can just download a tarball. I'll do that if the above is unavailable). Arie Folger I think that one of the 5 CDs is documentation CD, I guess they're somewhere in there. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: off topic: help with mail
On 24/10/2002 11:07, Tzahi Fadida wrote: an off topic, what does this error message mean? i get it when trying to get my pop3 mail from a sunOs. -ERR [SYS/TEMP] Unable to copy mail spool file to temp pop dropbox /tmp/.myusername pop: No space left on device (28) i have space in my account for sure: Filesystem usage quota limittimeleft files quota limit timeleft /u1 354 1 12000 17800900 You may have space for your account quota, but according to the error there's no space device, see `df`. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: off topic: help with mail
On 24/10/2002 12:14, Guy Cohen wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:52:29AM +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote: On 24/10/2002 11:45, Guy Cohen wrote: Sagi, On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:24:27AM +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote: On 24/10/2002 11:07, Tzahi Fadida wrote: an off topic, what does this error message mean? i get it when trying to get my pop3 mail from a sunOs. -ERR [SYS/TEMP] Unable to copy mail spool file to temp pop dropbox /tmp/.myusername pop: No space left on device (28) You may have space for your account quota, but according to the error there's no space device, see `df`. I hope you realise that you are wrong. No space left on device Am I? You said there's no space device which impliese there should be some device named space. when infact there is just a device with no space left on it. That was a typo, ofcourse. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel crashing while running HDD benchmark
Hi, I'm trying to run bonnie++ to stress test the HDD on a new server. I have 2 WD1200JB (120GB/ATA100/8MB cache) set in software RAID1. I'm using the onboard ATA controller, and I had the same problem while trying to use promise onboard raid as ATA controller. The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW+. According to lspci, the IDE controller is: 00:07.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] IDE (rev 04) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) The server is running RedHat 7.3 with all updates. Kernel is default redhat kernel 2.4.18-17.7.xsmp (SMP - 2 athlon MP cpus). I'm pretty lost here - the server is simply hanging after I start the benchmark - No ping, nothing on the screen (but strangely enough the cursor keeps blinking). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice 1.0.1, Xine and XMMS on Redhat 8.0
On 22/10/2002 18:15, Eliran wrote: Hello ! I just installed RH8 - There are few problems [of course]... 1) XMMS doesn't allow mp3's (who hear wavs ?!) - I know redhat took it off because of some reasons... Solved. (I'm downloading it again from the web) 2) Xine - no xine in all 3 CDs... same reason as xmms ? http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_80mm.html 3) Openoffice 1.0.1 -- I just found out there is ain't RTL/LTR option in my toolbar... Do I have to switch back to the bidi enabled one ? Then why did RH included openoffice-l18n ??? Ofcourse not. Only the latest developer build supports BiDi. It's not production quality yet, I'm not even sure that it is beta quality. And in any case, it wasn't even out when RedHat 8.0 was released. The i18n packages probably includes support for other languages, but not Hebrew - not yet. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hdd partitioning
On 17/10/2002 13:04, Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Sagi Bashari, from the post of Thu, 17 Oct:
Hi
I'm setting up a new server and I wondered about hdd partitioning - I
need big /var and also a big /home - I thought about creating one big
/home and symlinking the /var to /home/var .
Is there anything that should stop me from doing that? Any performance
issues?
fragmentation. VAR by definition is very active, lots of small additions
to multiple files (logs) and lots of creations and deletes (var/cache
and var/spool).
Now when I think of it RedHat puts both WWW and FTP data in /var as well
(/var/{www|ftp}).
I used to move it to /home/www until now. Is it better to keep
everything in /var? this data is mostly static, so I wonder why RedHat
decided to move it to there.
Sagi
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hdd partitioning
Hi I'm setting up a new server and I wondered about hdd partitioning - I need big /var and also a big /home - I thought about creating one big /home and symlinking the /var to /home/var . Is there anything that should stop me from doing that? Any performance issues? I'm using ext3. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RedHat 8.0 vs. 7.3, LVM (was: Re: hdd partitioning)
On 10/17/2002 1:04 PM, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Sagi Bashari, from the post of Thu, 17 Oct: Hi I'm setting up a new server and I wondered about hdd partitioning - I need big /var and also a big /home - I thought about creating one big /home and symlinking the /var to /home/var . Is there anything that should stop me from doing that? Any performance issues? fragmentation. VAR by definition is very active, lots of small additions to multiple files (logs) and lots of creations and deletes (var/cache and var/spool). if you use LVM/EVMS you can start with two medium-sized partitions on logical volumes and then grow either one or the other with LV extensions, depending on which one of the two needs it more. ext2, 3 and reiser are all growable and shrinkable, reiser can even do it on the fly on a mounted partition if I remember. I need a big /var for logs and databases (mysql currently). What if I create small /var(cache|spool) and symlink the logs/databases to /home/var? I tried to look into LVM. I can't see any option to use it in the RedHat 7.3 installation: 1. Is it possible to create / /usr and swap in the installation, leave the rest unpartitioned and setup LVM for /var and /home manuelly? 2. RedHat 8.0 has LVM support in the installation, and probably supports my RAID card better (onboard promise 20276). I know using .0 release on production servers is not recommended, but are there any real issues with 8.0 (except Apache2 - but I can downrage it manuelly using the 7.3 RPMS). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root password lost
On 10/16/2002 2:17 PM, Toros Yosi wrote: Hi, I have computer that has RH7.3 on it and I don't know the root and any other users password ,can someone please tell me waht is the best way to login :) Boot in single user mode (append 1 to the kernel parameters, 'linux 1' in lilo prompt for example). It should boot and give you root shell. If it doesn't, try to append init=/bin/sh to the kernel parameters. After you are in, use /usr/bin/passwd to change the root password. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System Backups
On 10/14/2002 12:37 PM, Erez Boym wrote: Hi, What would be the way to backup an entire system ? I have a server which I need too backup, a complete backup setups, *-conf, data, everything and then to easily rebuild the entire server back from scratch. Would it be enough to copy the entire file system on to DVDs, Tape etc. and then reinstall Linux and copy the entire file system back in or do I need a tool like Ghost ? If you really want to backup the whole setup and not only the data, you might want to consider using HDD as backup media. Simply add new HDD to the system and use 'dd' to make exact backup. Then if one HDD will fail, just replace it with the backup HDD. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System Backups
On 10/14/2002 1:10 PM, Eli Marmor wrote: Sagi Bashari wrote: On 10/14/2002 12:37 PM, Erez Boym wrote: Hi, What would be the way to backup an entire system ? I have a server which I need too backup, a complete backup setups, *-conf, data, everything and then to easily rebuild the entire server back from scratch. Would it be enough to copy the entire file system on to DVDs, Tape etc. and then reinstall Linux and copy the entire file system back in or do I need a tool like Ghost ? If you really want to backup the whole setup and not only the data, you might want to consider using HDD as backup media. Simply add new HDD to the system and use 'dd' to make exact backup. Then if one HDD will fail, just replace it with the backup HDD. Sagi Of course, any disk copy, block-by-block and not file-by-file, must be done when the disk is frozen, i.e. either unmounted or in Single mode when nobody writes to the disk. Unless you have LVM with Freeze options. What if you setup two disks in RAID1 and pull one of the disks for backup and insert new one instead? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: speed of RAID1 rebuild [was Re: System Backups]
On 10/14/2002 4:48 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: What if you setup two disks in RAID1 and pull one of the disks for backup and insert new one instead? 2. you will need to rebuild the mirror once it is reintegrated and thæt is a slow and painful process. how slow is it really ? Once I build a system with software RAID 1. I had two 36 Gig IDE disks and the rebuild time was IIRC between 12-18 hours. Did I misconfigure something or is this normal ? -- Gabor I have two old 15GB HDDs in RAID1 connected to ATA33 controller. The normal transfer rate is around 10MB/s. Newer HDDs with ATA100/133 controller should be much faster. You can see the transfer speed by reading /proc/mdstat when you rebuild the array. BTW - I noticed that when the machine shuts down uncleanly it's automatically starting to rebuild the whole array, even if no data was changed. Isn't there a faster way to sync them? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Slightly OT] Itanium CPU time for rent?
On 10/12/2002 7:23 PM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: I wonder - is there anywhere a machine running the already-not-so-new Itanium processor, where I can have (rent?) login access? I would like to do some benchmarking. Compaq/HP provides testing accounts on their servers, see http://www.testdrive.compaq.com/ Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS configuration problem
On 10/8/2002 5:09 PM, Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem we have with our DNS services. We have a primary DNS server here in the company, and Internet Zahav are secondaries for us. When I query either our server or one of the Internet Zahav servers about the MX record for our domain, they answer fine. When I query other name servers, it doesn't work -- either a timeout or SERVFAIL. You can try this yourself. The domain name is mangodsp.com. You can query 192.116.213.66 (our name server) or the Internet Zahav name servers and it works fine. If you query e.g. dns.netvision.net.il it doesn't work. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com ns1.bezeqint.net Using domain server: Name: ns1.bezeqint.net Address: 192.115.106.10#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com pdns.goldenlines.co.il Using domain server: Name: pdns.goldenlines.co.il Address: 212.117.129.3#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com ns1.actcom.co.il Using domain server: Name: ns1.actcom.co.il Address: 192.114.47.1#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com dns.netvision.net.il ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com dns2.netvision.net.il Using domain server: Name: dns2.netvision.net.il Address: 212.143.212.143#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ 4 out of 5. Only netvisionn's DNS can't see it, so it's probably a problem with their DNS. Which other servers did you have problem with? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The new build of openoffice
On 10/8/2002 11:35 PM, voguemaster wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/643/index.html BTW - It took me awhile to figure this - to change to full BiDi RTL mode you need to add the toolbar icons - right click on the toolbar - visible buttons - right-to-left/left-to-right. Sagi Which version/build is this again ?? At their site they claim 1.0.1 is merely a bug fix version, while 643 is a development build and therefore NOT so stable... 643. It's the first dev version with BiDi support. No one said it's stable. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Server for sale
On 9/29/2002 2:03 PM, Sagi Bashari wrote: Hi First, I'm not sure that posting such message to this list is acceptable, but since some people from here asked me about it I'll take the risk. Sorry if I bother anyone. I have 1U server for sale. I used it for a while as a server for my home LAN, but recently I decided that it's too noisy and I prefer to replace it with a regular PC (those servers have 5 fans!) I'm not sure how much exactly it's worth so I put it on a public auction on Walla bay: http://bay.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?path=379id=102954 Worth to mention that the server runs Linux without any problems. Again, Sorry if I bothered anyone with this message. Just a quick followup. This is even more offtopic than the original message but I have no other way to contact the people, sorry. After posting this to the list I got several bids on this auction. They looked very strange because they came 2-3 minutes after each other and the price went up to the sky. I suspect that someone has been faking bids and now after the auction is over the winner is not responding to my mails. For anyone who's considering using bay.walla.co.il I just wanted to warn you that as far as I see the service is just another public service and anyone can simply register multiple accounts and bid anything that he wants, even if he does not intend to pay. He doesn't even have to fill his phone number. Walla is not responding any of my emails , too. So please, if any of the bidders is from this list, or IF anyone is still interested in buying this (ignore the price on the auction, the price is negotiable) please contact me (privately, make sure you're not replying to the list - I generated enough offtopic noise already). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: [l10n-dev] build 643]
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Re: The new build of openoffice
On 10/7/2002 11:13 PM, Noam Meltzer wrote: Where is it avail. for download? http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/643/index.html BTW - It took me awhile to figure this - to change to full BiDi RTL mode you need to add the toolbar icons - right click on the toolbar - visible buttons - right-to-left/left-to-right. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ddclient question
On 10/8/2002 12:30 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi people, I know that many people here uses dyndns.org services for registering their dynamic IP - and I'm having a problem with Netvision's transparent proxy... The problem is very simple - the ddclient perl script checks every 3000 seconds (50 minutes) the IP using web address: http://checkip.dyndns.org - and there's the problem - sometimes it gets my real IP, and sometimes... netvision's cached IP. The problem doesn't occur if you're connected several days in a row, but unfortunately, due to stupid Bezeq movement - I had tons of problems when I moved to a new house - 1200 meters (yes, meters) from my old house (took them 10 days to move a single phone line + 48 hours to move the ADSL service, not mentioning another 48 hours for voice mail) - so I had a bunch of connect/disconnect scenarios.. Any suggestions? Why are you using the URL to probe IP in the first place? I just use the default setup which reads the ppp0 interface IP using the ifconfig command. It works very well for some time now, with any ISP. If that won't work for you, I guess you can simply run a daemon somewhere that throws your IP when you connect to port X. Embedding this into ddclient should be easy. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution]]
---BeginMessage--- Hi Sagi, AddDefaultCharset is enabled by default now to prevent some browser security issues. You can override the default using, for instance, AddDefaultCharset off in an .htaccess file. The docs are here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset Feel free to pass this message on to the mailing list. Regards, joe On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:19:01AM +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote: From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reuven M. Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Linux-IL mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:54:58 +0300 (IDT) Subject: Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Reuven M. Lerner wrote: Sagi == Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [After Sagi upgraded to RH8.0, which includes apache 2] Sagi Turns out that by default apache2 sends charset header Sagi itself, which is set to ISO-8859-1. The strange thing is Sagi that the meta tags didn't override it. Why is this strange?The HTML standard says pretty clearly that meta tags only work when the character set isn't explicitly named in the HTTP header.See section 5.2.2 in this document: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/charset.html Sagi Fixing it is pretty easy, simply comment the Sagi AddDefaultCharset line in your httpd.conf. Right -- if you remove the charset from the HTTP header, then the meta tag will work. Unfortunately, many Web designers in Israel think that meta tags are the right way to indicate that a document contains Hebrew, which has led to a lot of confusion over the years. There are a number of incompatible ways to encode Hebrew (e.g: ISO-8859-8/visual, cp1255/logical and UTF-8). So simply saying that the language is Hebrew is not enough for the browser. Normally it is easy for the web designer to control the html file, and less simple to control the actual http header. Setting a server-wide default to a certain charset is certainly not a wise default. I would consider it a misconfiguration of RH's side. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir ---End Message---
apache2 hebrew issue + solution
Hi I upgraded my home server today to RedHat 8.0. This version comes with Apache2, and for the first time I tried to get my sites to work with it. I got the basics up without many problems, but when trying to access it I just the Hebrew on the site as gibberish. Turns out that by default apache2 sends charset header itself, which is set to ISO-8859-1. The strange thing is that the meta tags didn't override it. Fixing it is pretty easy, simply comment the AddDefaultCharset line in your httpd.conf. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RH8.0 is out
On 9/30/2002 3:34 PM, Dvir Volk wrote: it looks like the Redhat ftp is not standing the pressure, though. when is the iglu mirror supposed to be synchronized? From what I know the IGLU mirror is lacking free space and even Mdk9 is not there yet. There is 8.0 directory on both Huji and netvision mirrors though, but on HUJI the dir is locked and netvision is empty.. guess it's still mirroring them. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]
On 9/23/2002 12:12 AM, Tal Achituv wrote: Tal Achituv: 2 monitors, 1x4 cpu-switch, ~10 net-cables, 1x6 electricity splitter, tables chairs. Roy Arad: ADSL modem+account (will be handy if there will be a line). Marc: Debian Mirror, 8 port hub, 4 port switch Yotam Rubin: 3 monitors CD-R*2 media Omer Zak: CDs, 8-port hub, 3 net-cables Boaz Rymland: 8 port hub Sagi Bashari: RedHat ISOs a server 5 monitors.. is that enough? what about keyboards/mices? a simple speakers set will also be useful to test sound. I'll try to bring my workstationthe mirrors server with a KVM and one set of monitor/keyboard/mouse. I also have my 19 but it's too heavy so I generally don't like the idea of carrying it with me. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: insta party - some updates
On 9/23/2002 3:34 PM, Amir Tal wrote: 3) as it looks now, we will not have internet connectivity at the party due to the lack of an ADSL line. tal achituv is trying to work something out with the administration of the renanim mall. if you have a connection at bezaq, or any other connection that can help us out, please use it. internet connectivity is not a must for the event, but can contribute a lot (online demonstrations, updates etc..) Is there atleast a normal phone line that we can connect to - normal 56k connection? It's better than nothing and can be very useful if we'll need to do some googling.. If not we must bring anything that we'll possibly need mirrored. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Insta-Party] Winmodems Drivers
On 9/23/2002 6:25 PM, Eliran wrote: Hello ! Sorry if you have already discussed it but does any of you bring winmodem drivers (most fit on a floppy or two)... And, how will the users choose which distro to choose while they don't know much about linux at all ? Tell me where are they located and I'll mirror them. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 9 in the install party?
On 9/22/2002 12:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote OK. Fine. Make the standard installation MDK8.2 or RH7.3 . BUT Install a stable (as much as possible) KDE3 package (and preferably: gnome2). It would also be nice of mozilla had the bidi selection bug fixed (Yes, all the above are in the betas) I don't like instaling a beta on other people's computers. But keep in mind that upgrading KDE is something that they'll have to do. This upgrade process is error-prone as well. Please tell me what do you want me to mirror. Right now I mirrored RedHat 7.3, RedHat null beta and now slackware 8.1. Later i'll also add RedHat 7.3 updates. Should I mirror Mandrake? Debian? I think Mark said he'll bring server with Debian ISO's and Oleg said something about Mandrake, please update me. If there is any special software that you want me to mirror, mail me. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]
On 9/23/2002 12:12 AM, Tal Achituv wrote: we'll need some electricity splitters power cables, that shouldn't be a big problem - bring if you got`em. What we need to worry about is Internet connection... I`n on the line with NetVision Bezeq... If you have *connections* somewhere - let me know, if you don't - pray to your god(s). What about the cables companies? It's probably too late, but it worth a try.. We can give information about their cables services (fliers or something) in exchange. Sagi Bashari: RedHat ISOs a server. I also have Slackware/Mandrake ISO's on the server. You can send any mirrors requests to me. I'll try to bring a burner, monitor, 8ports switch, network/power cables and some power splitters as well. We'll also need some packs of blank floppies for the installations. If atid will be able to sell cheap NICs it'll be nice too (for network install). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 9 in the install party?
On 9/21/2002 4:26 PM, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hi all anyone will bring mdk 9 to the install party? (betas final... what ever) I can download the ISOs to the server that I'll being with me. Some people said that they'll bring machines with a burner with them so we can make copies. If there's a need I might be able to bring my workstation as well which has a burner. BTW - what about empty medias? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installation party status
Hi, I would like to know what is the status of the installation party next week. We had some issues such as internet connections, CDs etc - what is left open ? Is there any estimation about the number of participants? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Party
From: Amir Tal [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 11 September 2002 22:31, Tal Achituv wrote: Will the party have internet connectivity ? Yes, either thru something Tal Amir will arrange with actcom, or I will bring my own modem and use my own account (in that case - there still is the ADSL-enabling of the phone line issue). 1) write both me and yehuda drori in for installation help. 2) the adsl issue is not a closed deal yet, and actcom will not be able to tell me if they can make this happen until next week. if you ask me, its up to us to make it happen, as actcom can be used only as our last option (a situation we dont want to get into) What you want actcom to sponser is the ADSL account for the event? really, I'm not even sure that it's needed, because we'll still need the ADSL line. In my opinion someone should try contacting Bezeq and ask them to sponsor the ADSL line for the event (just to ADSL-enable one of the phone lines, someone can bring his ADSL modem filter). If they do, I'm pretty sure that getting ADSL account will not be an issue. After that we can just setup linux server that will do IP masquerading and DHCP. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Party
Title: Message Hi One thing you did not mention (and someone asked about a while ago) is what about chairs, tables, electricity plugs etc? If the shop is empty than I guess we'll have to take care of that too.. Sagi From: Tal Achituv Hi all! Not a minute too soon - the date and place are closed for the installation party at the renanim mall... we got the entire 150sq meters of the *empty* shop next to "Sport Verthaymer" on the 1st floor. for the entire day of the 25th of September (Wednesday) in the mid of sukut. We need volunteers to: 1) help installing explaining (as many as possible 2) helping the security guard at the entrance to check that what people bring in is actually a computer, and nothing else. (entrance for computers will be *only* allowed from the roof gate) 3) helping people to find the store (entrance is from the back - because there is a vitrina in the front) please send me mail letting me know when you can come. Tal Amir is taking care of some sponsorship with actcom, Iddo Diamant is taking care of bringing Atid-Computersto sell Hard-Drives (and dvd-r burning services???). More details soon, and at http://www.achituv.com/instparty.php Thanks to everybody, Tal.
Re: Installation Party
Title: Message I already suggested my help in the installation + bringing a server with RedHat ISO's (and basiclly anything else that you'll want me to mirror, space is not an issue). Sagi From: Tal Achituv Hi all! Not a minute too soon - the date and place are closed for the installation party at the renanim mall... we got the entire 150sq meters of the *empty* shop next to "Sport Verthaymer" on the 1st floor. for the entire day of the 25th of September (Wednesday) in the mid of sukut. We need volunteers to: 1) help installing explaining (as many as possible 2) helping the security guard at the entrance to check that what people bring in is actually a computer, and nothing else. (entrance for computers will be *only* allowed from the roof gate) 3) helping people to find the store (entrance is from the back - because there is a vitrina in the front) please send me mail letting me know when you can come. Tal Amir is taking care of some sponsorship with actcom, Iddo Diamant is taking care of bringing Atid-Computersto sell Hard-Drives (and dvd-r burning services???). More details soon, and at http://www.achituv.com/instparty.php Thanks to everybody, Tal.
Re: Kvim
Last time I checked I had problem with compiling it and it didn't support hebrew well. Can you comment about the hebrew support? any conflicts between VIM's support and QT's? Sagi From: Amir Tal [EMAIL PROTECTED] i dont know if this is news for people here, it is for me. a port of vim to kde3. http://www.freehackers.org/kvim/download.html http://www.freehackers.org/kvim/ enjoy, tal. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Looking for old UNIXes
From: Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allow me to tell you this - this 3 years warranty note is a damn lie, and I'm being polite here. Why? I'll give you an example: Here, on my desk I have an Asus A7V board with Athlon 800Mhz chip. Lets say that the chip will burn as soon as I'll mount it on the board and turn on the machine. IF the shop that I bought from it will have a spare part - then I'll get a replace chip without any charge, but this is the PC business - where a chip shelf life is nothing more then 3-5 months at best - and thats including boards, processors, ram, hard drives - you know... Now - if he doesn't have, then I have to purchase a new processor (and they'll deduct the price of an old processor - so my guess they'll deduct $50 - a price of K7-800Mhz) and on top of that - I'll have to buy a new board (why? remember Intel's lie we need another way to stick a processor, a socket won't help when running at 1+ Ghz which was actually just trying to shake AMD out?), and if the board vendor decided that SDRAM is not good enough and I have to use RDRAM then I'll have to buy RAM too. What if you had an AGP X2 slot and you got now AGPX8 slot in your new board? ahh, buy a graphics card please... So a warrenty is helpful for few months only for free fixing. After a year or two - you'll need to pay through your nose. Fortunately you can get adapters whetever the workstation have - VGA and use a regular screen since a 5+ year old CRT is very hard on the eyes. That wasn't my experience. I had a 800mhz AMD cpu that burned after few months and I got a newer CPU instead (not big different, 900mhz, but thats not the point) for no charge. In another case, we had dual CPU intel server with only one 600mhz cpu plugged. After a year we decided to add another cpu, but we couldn't get our hands on another 600mhz CPU. The company replaced the 600mhz cpu for 800mhz for little or no charge, I can't remember. So my guess is that it really depends who you buy from. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RIP Update 4
From: Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoth Amir Tal: On Friday 16 August 2002 09:50, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: Needed: 1. More PREBURNED stuff - Mandrek, RedHate, SoSo, Knoppix this is the part i dont get... why do we want all those media's ? if its for giving away after the event, then fine. for the installation itself i suggest a server, with apache running, and do a network install for everyone. its faster and better for everyone. I agree. Yes - some giving away, some for boot media. But mostly - giving away. Note, however, that there _is_ one install server with a mirror of Debian. The more, the merrier. You want to bring a server? I can bring a server with RedHat/Mandrake ISO's and a 8ports switch. I have ADSL connection and enough HDD space so I can also mirror other ISO's/software before the event if it'll be needed. Right now it's all just talking though - there's no even date set for the event, but in any case I'll need help taking this equipment with me (I don't have a car). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SQL Question
From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have three tables: clubs, users and permissions. clubs contains a Club_ID (an integer). users contains a User_ID. Permissions contains both as well as a Subjects field (a boolean). Now, a user is allowed to edit the data associated with a club if he has a record in the permissions table (with the appropriate User_ID and Club_ID). He is allowed to edit the subjects if the Subjects field is set. Now, I want to make one query that given a User_ID will return a list of all the clubs in clubs with the following three fields: 1. Club_ID 2. Whether a record exist in Permissions. 3. If so, whether the Subjects flag is set (or if 2 is false - undetermined) I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you want to return all the clubs that the user have premission to change? If yes, than here's the code: SELECT clubs.Club_ID, premissions.subject FROM clubs,premissions WHERE premissions.User_ID=UID AND clubs.Club_ID=premissions.Club_ID; I am using MySQL 3.23.47, but can possibly switch to PostgreSQL. Regards, Shlomi Fish Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Raanaa Instalation Party
From: Amir Tal [EMAIL PROTECTED] good idea. the only problem is to get that machine (along with more hadware we don't have, like monitors etc...) i don't think that anyone here is willing to sacrifice his\her machine for other people (specially windows users) to play around with. getting sponsoring for this event is crucial, and some hardware donations \ loan's as well. You don't need to sacrifice your machine. Just replace the HDD with another one and do clean installation for the event. Some people already offered to loan HDD's. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Shindig (english translation)
From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Aug 02, 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: The Shindig (english translation): about the movie, it was really bad. But it did show us who are exactly those people: It wasn't the greatest movie I ever saw, but saying it was really bad is an exaggeration. It was a nice opportunity to see what these people (Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond, etc.) looked like and talked like. Parts of the movie seem to have been cut out, by the way (e.g., the part with Rob Malda a.k.a Commander Tako, of Slashdot fame). I really enjoyed today, but one thing that I didn't like about the movie broadcasting, and has nothing to do with the movie itself - is the picture quality. Am I the only one who could barely see the picture? it looks like it was broadcasted from a VHS, which doesn't look so good even on a 21 TV - and it was broadcast on a theater.. Isn't there a better quality version of the movie for public screening? I think that I read something about digital version for public screenings on their website. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
killing uninterruptible sleep process
Hi I logged in to one of my servers today and noticed that the load average is very high. After investigating the problem I found two processes in D stat (uninterruptible sleep): root 24344 0.0 0.2 1532 584 ?DN Jul21 0:01 /usr/bin/updatedb -f NFS,SMBFS,NCPFS,PROC,DEVPTS -e /tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net root 25899 0.0 0.2 1532 584 ?DN 06:26 0:01 /usr/bin/updatedb -f NFS,SMBFS,NCPFS,PROC,DEVPTS -e /tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net Their parent - pid 1532 is already dead. My guess is that SMB share that I had mounted on this box have died after the host rebooted. I cannot unmount that share because umount says that the device is busy. Is there any way to kill the dead updatedb processes and umount the dead shares without rebooting the system? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dedicated web hosting or colocation - providers, partners
I'm working with BezeqInt and they're pretty good for colocation. Their datacenter is in Petah Tikva. The equipment is fine and the connection to the IIX is very fast, but their prices are probably starting somewhere near $300 for colocation. Don't expect for linux support there though - they will not do anything more than rebooting the server in most of the cases. (not because their staff is not knowledgeable enough, but because they're not willing to take responsibility on colocation servers - even if it just choosing a different kernel in lilo or something like that). See http://hosting.bezeqint.net/Content/CoLocation.asp for more information. Sagi From: Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy, I'm looking for providers of Linux-based dedicated web hosting, or colocation services. Criteria, in this order: 1. Reliability 2. Price 3. Speed for Israeli clients (preferably inside Israel, or with a good link to all major Israeli ISPs) I'm talking about an unmanaged service -- just keep 'em packets moving and let me do a remote reboot. There are numerous US-based options around $100, but the speed for connections from Israel is suboptimal (if only because of latency). I'd appreciate any suggestions from this exceptionally experienced forum. Also, would anyone be interested in sharing such a server? Currently the planned residence is www.haayal.co.il, www.sf-f.org.il, www.fisheye.co.il and a bunch of static personal sites. With reasonable hardware, that leaves plenty of CPU power and disk space. Regards, Eran Tromer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Dedicated web hosting or colocation - providers, partners
While they did have some problems in the past (like power issues), in the last months they've been fine. We setuped a new server (checking..) 225 days ago and we had no single reboot since then, and I cannot remember any network outage too. I cannot comment about billing issues because it's not under my responsibility. Sagi From: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Worked with Bezeq Intl in the past. They were a MESS. When the mess results in them forgetting to bill you (would happen every other month or so), that is one thing. When the mess results in them losing your phone number (was written on the machine), having power failures, losing your account info, taking your computer off line (because they lost the phone number, and your account info, and are not billing you), losing faxes you send them, continuing to bill you after you have asked to disconnect (and, in fact, after you have removed the machine), and then again the month after that (after you have already complained), when they take your computer offline by pulling out the power cord, then you may regard it as something else. They have a very very impressive server farm, I'll grant that. I will also mention that they are free (as far as I have seen) of ill intent. When the mess was cleared, they acted very reasonably about it, and admitted that the mess was theirs. Their technical skills, and worst, their administrative skills, however, are very very very very very very very very very poor. Then again, they may have changed since I left them. There is also, as Sagi noted, the point of the price. Shachar Sagi Bashari wrote: I'm working with BezeqInt and they're pretty good for colocation. Their datacenter is in Petah Tikva. The equipment is fine and the connection to the IIX is very fast, but their prices are probably starting somewhere near $300 for colocation. Don't expect for linux support there though - they will not do anything more than rebooting the server in most of the cases. (not because their staff is not knowledgeable enough, but because they're not willing to take responsibility on colocation servers - even if it just choosing a different kernel in lilo or something like that). See http://hosting.bezeqint.net/Content/CoLocation.asp for more information. Sagi From: Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy, I'm looking for providers of Linux-based dedicated web hosting, or colocation services. Criteria, in this order: 1. Reliability 2. Price 3. Speed for Israeli clients (preferably inside Israel, or with a good link to all major Israeli ISPs) I'm talking about an unmanaged service -- just keep 'em packets moving and let me do a remote reboot. There are numerous US-based options around $100, but the speed for connections from Israel is suboptimal (if only because of latency). I'd appreciate any suggestions from this exceptionally experienced forum. Also, would anyone be interested in sharing such a server? Currently the planned residence is www.haayal.co.il, www.sf-f.org.il, www.fisheye.co.il and a bunch of static personal sites. With reasonable hardware, that leaves plenty of CPU power and disk space. Regards, Eran Tromer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is rapidsite?
Hi I belive that RapidSite is a webhosting provider. Their reseller in israel is interspace.co.il. So yes, it looks like RapidSite/Apa/1.3.26 is just Apache 1.3.26. They probably just change the server signature for some reason. Sagi From: Amir Hardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been asked to write some CGI programs for a company who will run it on another company's server. They have no idea what does the server runs on... The info the HTTP server gives me is this: Server: Rapidsite/Apa/1.3.26 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.6 Is this an apache server? if not what is this rapidsite and where can I find information about it? -Amir. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: at -m for users with outside mail account
From: Arie Folger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, When running at with the -m option, the user will get an email once the job is finished. However, this assumes the system knows what the user's email address is. My users have access to a large time yummy hp box (24 processors with oodles of ram and hd space) but no mail accounts there. How can I set at to send mail to their email address on our system after the job they were running on the remote system finished. (at is running on the remote system; no rsh and the like, as they are telnetting from windows machines). I have no administrative privileges on the remote box, so keep it simple. What do you mean by no mail account? What does the system do with mail that is sent locally? I guess you mean that you cannot fetch it remotly using POP3/IMAP. If that's the case, and the system actually does save the message you should be able to create a .forward file that contains the email address. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TIP: fixed width hebrew fonts
Hi, I've looked for some time for a good looking hebrew fonts to use with xterm and gvim, I never really liked the ones that come with X. I just found a script on Dov Grobgeld's website that converts vgf/fnt fonts that can be ripped from the computer BIOS using EVAFONT (http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/49489.html - DOS program) to bdf fonts that can be used in X. The script is at http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/fonts/dovhebbdf-0.1.tgz, there are also some fonts that he already converted there. It looks much better than heb8x13 in my opinion. Sagi To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux T-Shirts
From: Eliran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any idea who sells linux t-shirts (or BSD's daemon t-shirts) or any other computers-not-microsoft-related shirts ? See http://www.thinkgeek.com/ Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OO bidi support
From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahemm... What font does OO use to display unavailable fonts? Can I chage this? See: Tools-Options -OOo-Fonts replacment -Text Document-Basic fonts Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pretty printing source code
From: Ishay Inbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Using code beautifier for Perl (in my case) called Perltidy (http://perltidy.sourceforge.net/) you can add the HTML option and get a very nice HTML page out of any code. I believe there should be things like that to other codes as well. shushu You can also do that in VIM, see Syntax-Convert to HTML. It'll colorize the source code according to your color scheme, etc. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silly question: who stole my locale information
From: Dan Kenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell me what do you make of this - it seems beyond my grasp: ~$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/locale/he_IL glibc-common-2.2.5-34 ~$ ls /usr/lib/locale/he_IL ls: /usr/lib/locale/he_IL: No such file or directory ~$ rpm -V glibc-common .?. /usr/libexec/pt_chown Just reinstall that package (rpm -Uvh --force glibc-common*.rpm) Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?
From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, May 18, 2002, Amir Tal wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?: this might be a good place to tell you guys about something we are starting these days. we call it LinBrew, and the target is a native Hebrew distro. we planned on telling people about LinBrew in a few weeks, when we actually have something to show for, but maybe we should check for some feedbacks on such a project at this early stage. the project website : http://linbrew.sourceforge.net the forums : http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modloadname=Forumfile=indexviewcat=6 I have read your forum thoroughly. Your intentions, to create a Hebrew Linux distribution, are admirable. You are talking on all the right concepts: volunteering, good management and so on. It all looks very much like the stuff I wrote almost 3 years ago in http://www.ivrix.org.il/announcements/1.html But really, whats the point of starting to build a linux distribution from scratch, just for the Hebrew support? All we need is good set of Hebrew packages for the exiting distributions, there's no reason to waste so much time and resources on building a whole distribution. Perhaps you should reconsider using an existing popular distibution as your basis instead. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 00:24, Sagi Bashari wrote: On Tuesday 14 May 2002 20:09, Sagi Bashari wrote: From: Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Producing the RPM is a trivial task, simply use alien. I am willing to do it myself on iglu.org.il, but it's only a couple of commands. If someone wants to create an SRPM, that would be ideal; I do not intend to create one. Regards, Yotam Rubin I just tried to do that on RedHat 7.3, but I got MD5 errors rpm when installing the file. Can you please post md5 checksum for the .deb's? Sagi OK, I redownloaded the file and converted it to RPM again and it worked this time; I had to download some packages from rawhide (updated libgcc, libstd++) but it seems to work now. There seem to be a problem with my locale though, When I try to start it I get this error message: [sagi@beep sagi]$ OpenOffice.org1.0/soffice I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8;LC_NUMERIC=en_US;LC_TIME=en_US;LC_COLLATE=en_US;LC_MON ETARY=en_US;LC_MESSAGES=en_US;LC_PAPER=en_US;LC_NAME=en_US;LC_ADDRESS=en_US; LC_TELEPHONE=en_US;LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US;LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US Aborted [sagi@beep sagi]$ I could override it with LC_CTYPE=en_US, but then I cannot read hebrew filenames, and I if I don't have LC_CTYPE=en_US global (set it before I start X) the fonts are not anti-aliased too (not really sure whats the connection..) So, anyone knows how to make it accept .utf8 encoding? I solved the problem by using the en_US.UTF-8 locale instead. Sagi To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice with BiDi support.
From: Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 05:41:12PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ok, file is nearly there (still D/L, but I am hoping it will arrive real soon). http://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/OpenOffice/ There should be two files there, both debs at the momen (that's all Yotam managed to make in the mean while). I will defenitely test it tonight. One of the files has not finished D/L as of the writing of this email. I have to go now, but I believe that it will finish D/L by the time you get to D/L it yourself (98% at the moment). Producing the RPM is a trivial task, simply use alien. I am willing to do it myself on iglu.org.il, but it's only a couple of commands. If someone wants to create an SRPM, that would be ideal; I do not intend to create one. Regards, Yotam Rubin I just tried to do that on RedHat 7.3, but I got MD5 errors rpm when installing the file. Can you please post md5 checksum for the .deb's? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: converting mbox to maildir
From: Alex Shnitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 19:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I'm trying to convert some standard mbox mailboxes to maildir directories. Somehow I can't find the right tool to do that in a resonable manner. After a couple of hours of searches and trying some 5 diffent tools: can anybody please point me to some convertor? Preferably something that is known to work (unlike http://www.qmail.org/mbox2maildir , for instance) A method that has worked very well for me is loading the mailbox into mutt, tagging all the messages and saving them to a new Maildir. Another idea is passing them through procmail, and making it save them to the Maildir , without any rules (It supports Maildir, but I'm not sure how you can re-process the whole mbox file, I'm pretty sure that it is possible, though). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
