Linux-Misc Digest #257
Linux-Misc Digest #257, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 03:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Newbie in Houston (Jacque Colbert)
Re: Newbie in Houston (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: What I think of linux. (Richard Steiner)
Re: PCL LaserJet, how? (Paul Kimoto)
Redhat 6.0/Epson 740 - Printer Won't! (root)
how to get c source from srpm on rh6.0? (Eric)
Re: Newbie in Houston ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: xv on Red Hat 6.0 (Silviu Minut)
Java ichat netscape (Brian Springstead)
Re: GNOME E (Stoney)
Re: emacs and global fonts option (Paul Kimoto)
Re: What I think of linux. (Paul Anderson)
Re: Newbie in Houston (Jacque Colbert)
Re: Unix2dos (Dave Brown)
Re: Newbie in Houston (Albert Ulmer)
Re: Linux has finally crashed (bilge)
Re: in response (Ray)
xview in RedHat 6.0 ("H.T. Sun")
Re: GDP (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: how to install c code source? (Alan Curry)
From: Jacque Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Newbie in Houston
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 04:33:17 GMT
Thanks for the fast repsonse!
The installation will probably set it up automagically. RH does for sure;
I can't speak for the others you mentioned.
*However*, have you stopped to consider the implications of using a
dual-boot system for a Web server? The site will only be available when
you boot to the OS running the server software. If you want 24x7
availability for your site, you need to choose one or the other and leave
it running all the time.
True, true, true. But, I was thinking, for peace of mind, I could tell my
friend that he wouldn't lose any old data or anything. If, like you say, most
installations take care of this, then I guess I don't have a problem.
By the way - I noticed you're from Austin. Do you know of a Linux Users group
in Houston? (I'm new here) Unless I'm mistaken Austin is the bigger town for
computer stuff, but I figure there might be a little in Houston too. If here
isn't, maybe I'll start one - or at least a mailing list for Houston Linux
people.
- Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Newbie in Houston
Date: 2 Aug 1999 01:01:44 -0400
On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 03:04:24 GMT, Jacque Colbert wrote:
fun. He's got a Pentium MMX 200 running Win 98, and the plan is to make
it dual boot with some version of Linux.
Web servers don't dual boot. In fact they shouldn't even reboot unless
there's a power outage or kernel/hardware upgrade.
My first question, of course, is that I'm going to need help picking a
distribution and installing it. It seems that RedHat is the most popular
install,
Caldera comes with PM that makes it easier to install if you already
have Win98 on there ( ie you don't need to re-install Win98 ).
However, I still think dual boot is a silly idea on a server.
but Slackware is the best suited for beginners. Also,
Slackware is the suited to people who are either very interested
in getting under the hood or people with too much time on their
hands. I'd argue that you can still get under the hood with RH.
configuring a PC so it can boot either Win98 or Linux certainly seems
possible, but I can't find just how to do so.
Run Dos FDISK, make a Win98 partition the right size, and leave the
rest of the disk unpartitioed. Reinstall Win98 , then install linux.
Or with Caldera, you can use the included PM to resize your Win98
partition, then install linux.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:22:52 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spake unto us, saying:
I'm 44 and although I'm not a computer professional by any
means (no formal "computer" classes at all despite a couple
college degrees) my first exposure to computers was in Math
in my senior year of high school (1972) when we learned some
Fortran programming.
Wow, where did all these old people come from. :-) :-)
I'm 36, and I first encountered computers back when I was in junior high
(spring of 1978 or so??). I was exposed to the Apple II quite a bit at
that time because our school district was relatively wealthy and had
purchased a lot of them for school use, and when I was in high school I
had access to multiple CDC Cyber systems via a pair of 10cps TTY-33's
and a pair of old accoustic modems, mainly the MERITSS system at the
University of Minnesota and MTS (MECC Timesharing System), as well as a
few dozen Apple IIs, and I got the chance to learn Apple Integer BASIC
and Applesoft BASIC as well as MNF (a fairly nice U of Minn Fortran
Variant) and smatterings of 6502 assembler before I went to college.
I kinda regret not being more interested in programming
Linux-Misc Digest #258
Linux-Misc Digest #258, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 06:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: What I think of linux. (Terry Porter)
Re: Mandrake 6.0, Netscape 4.6, and rvplayer 5.0 (Silviu Minut)
Starne ATAPI ZIP Problems (Joerg Paysen)
Re: tar question (Chuck Edgin)
Re: Ghost Pro ("John Ryland")
Re: tar question (Chuck Edgin)
Re: Linux has finally crashed - Could be even worse ! (Mads Dydensborg)
Missing pixmaps in KDE based apps (Jean-Philippe SCHILLE)
Re: Linux Training ("joe")
Re: detailed step setting up email for dial-up (Robert V. Grizzard)
MARK in messages (Oliver Gebele)
Hauppauge TV/Radio Card (Berco van Gool)
Re: Hauppauge TV-card full screen (Brian Mitchell)
Re: MARK in messages (Thomas Zajic)
Installing Netscape 4.61 (kev)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 2 Aug 1999 14:32:11 +0800
On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:08:54 -0700, Arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Porter wrote:
Nowdays, I write my code in C, hit makefile in Gvim, it automatically
compiles, assembles and burns into target system, done.
Could you post a little about what tools you use under Linux?
I'm curious as to state of Linux wrt things like emulators,
prom/pld design and programming, pc board layout, logic
simulators, cross-compilers, etc. I used to sell some of this,
and still get occasional inquiries for recommendations - I
wouldn't mind supporting Linux tools if they exist.
Thanks in advance.
Arthur
Sure Arthur, here's most of them, not counting all the Linux support programs
such as lynx for viewing html doc, etc.
Gschem : gEDA schematic capture, very professional.
Pcb: Pcb Layout, 8 layer, 7 more than I need!
TkCvs : Nice graphical front end for CVS
PcGrasp: C State diagrammer, for lousy coders like me
Tcm Diagrammer : Flowcharting
Xfig : Drawing package, for my enclosures etc
Gtk Diff: File Differences
Xcircuit: A simple schematic drawing package
Gvim: Excelent all round editor
Xdos: Dos emu package for dos those things I use from time to time
Chipmunk: Excellent dig or analog sim, when you conect the parts it
runs automatically :))
C2c : Microchip C compiler
Lyx : User manuals, the best for this type of thing imho
GV : Postsript viewer
Xpdf: Adobe acrobat veiwer
Gimp: Front panel label graphics
I use these everyday, for developing Microchip Pic applications, and have
found them to be reliable, and dependable in my day to day work.
Speaking of which, lunch is over, back to it!
terry
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To reach me, use [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Computer is powered by GNU-LINUX, and has been
up 1 week 1 hour 31 minutes
'Sapere aude' (Immanuel Kant, 1784)
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From: Silviu Minut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mandrake 6.0, Netscape 4.6, and rvplayer 5.0
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 01:50:33 -0400
This is a VERY known problem by now. You should have done a dejanews
search first.
New Linux releases use kernels 2.2.0 and greater and rvplayer does not
work anymore. You need to download G2 for linux from
http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
This is the link that takes you directly to the G2 download page. Somehow
the G2 for linux is difficult to find, so don't forget to bookmark the
site and tell about it to anyone who asks.
Allen Black wrote:
I have been unable to configure rvplayer 5.0 to work with Netscape 4.6
and Mandrake 6.0. Are there some file compatibility problems to be
considered here? I had no problems with Netscape 4.5 and Mandrake 5.3.
Any help would be appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Paysen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Starne ATAPI ZIP Problems
Date: 2 Aug 1999 06:20:38 GMT
Hi,
I have some problems with my Iomega internal ATAPI ZIP drive.
Whenever I try to mount a disk formatted with MSDOS filesystem
I am not able to do this. When I call fdisk I get the following
output. (I use the SCSI emulation, but it is the same when I
use the plain IDE floppy driver (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY))
When I create an ext2 partition all works fine...
...but when I insert the ext2 disk into an Iomega external
SCSI ZIP drive on another computer under Linux it recognizes
the disk as MSDOS formatted on partition 4 ???
(I use Kernel 2.2.10-ac12 on both machines)
Any help??
Joerg
[root@ing ]# fdisk /dev/sdb
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/sdb: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 95 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 ?
Linux-Misc Digest #259
Linux-Misc Digest #259, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 10:13:28 EDT
Contents:
Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux (gus)
Linux Net2Phone (dhongBA)
Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver (Miguel Rodriguez Artacho)
Re: tar question (John Thompson)
Re: netscape and newsgroups (John Thompson)
Re: Linux has finally crashed - Could be even worse ! (De Messemaeker Johan)
Apache and ASP ("Joffer")
Re: Apache and ASP (Kyrre Baker)
Re: democracy and government power ("A.T.Z.")
Newbie needs help with peculiar network monitoring problem (EnYgMa)
Just a suggestion... (Jeff Goodman)
c++ grammer (jievis)
Re: MARK in messages (Henry Habernickel)
Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver (root)
Re: MARK in messages (Stefan Tomanek)
Re: c++ grammer (De Messemaeker Johan)
Re: GNOME E (coffee)
Re: Java makes Netscape crash ("R.K.Aa")
Re: XWin Terminal Emulator ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Java makes Netscape crash (kev)
From: gus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 10:41:21 +0100
Timothy Fossum wrote:
gus wrote:
Norman Levin wrote:
There still seems to be a misconception on what symbolic links do
over 'hard' links.
-- snip --
Norman Levin
vm/dynAmIX inc.
I see things two ways. Soft links create a master / slave situation.
Hard links create multiple masters in a peer type arrangement.
-- snip ---
There's another place where soft (symbolic) links behave quite differently
from hard links. Suppose filename X is hard linked to file /Y/Z. If you
mount a new filesystem on top of Y, then the old /Y/Z becomes invisible, but X
still refers to the old file.
Now if X is symbolically linked to /Y/Z and you mount a new filesystem on top
of Y, X refers to the file named Z IN THE NEW FILESYSTEM, not the old one. In
this way, you can have a filename that (usefully) refers to different physical
files depending on what filesystems are mounted on the directory tree.
--
Timothy Fossum
This, I see, is true, but the need for this is surely very abstract... I
am wracking my brains for a useful purpose for this, and all I can think
of is something like warm standby's, or perhaps multiple
configurations...
But, for each conceivable alternative use I can think of, I can think of
a better "normal" solution.
gus
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From: dhongBA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Net2Phone
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 14:00:02 +0400
Hi,
I'm looking for a net2phone version of Linux
or something similar. Any ideas?
Ferdinand
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From: Miguel Rodriguez Artacho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:37:39 +0200
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From: John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tar question
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:19:33 -0600
Bob Koss wrote:
I want to make a tar file of my home directory, but I wish to exclude
the subdirectory ~/Office51. How do I do that?
I must have tried every permutation of -X and --exclude options, but
the subdirectory always gets included.
When you use the "-X" switch you need to specify a file that
contains the names of the directories/files you wish to
exclude. Eg, to back up your home directory while excluding
~/Office51 and its subdirectories, create a file calles
"~/exclude.file" with the line:
~/Office51/*
and try:
tar cvfX /tmp/test.archive ~/exclude.file ~/
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: netscape and newsgroups
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:23:44 -0600
Ramin Sina wrote:
hog wrote:
How long did you wait. There are many thousands of newsgroups and the
download can be very long, especially if you connection is at low speed.
Linux-Misc Digest #261
Linux-Misc Digest #261, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Richard Stallman)
sendmail (Robert Wolfe)
Re: Just a suggestion... (Jim McIntyre)
OpenMail to Support Linux; Free Beta Version Now Available for Download (Richi
Jennings)
MCA Zip drive (Mark Mykkanen)
Re: brain teaser (William Wueppelmann)
bashrc help (lawrence ta-wei lu)
Re: currencies (Matthias Warkus)
No Autoconf 2.14 release (Ben Elliston)
Re: What I think of linux. (James Knott)
Re: bashrc help (Jim McIntyre)
mandrake bdflush warning! (Bart Locanthi)
Re: video editing on linux? (Vito DeFilippo)
Re: bashrc help ("Al @Work")
Re: What I think of linux. (James Knott)
Re: mandrake bdflush warning! (Eric Potter)
From: Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce
Subject: Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:06:55 -0600 (MDT)
[ Please repost this wherever you think is appropriate! ]
Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Oakland)
Who: People who like or work on the GNU system. Perhaps you.
What: A GNU picnic on the beach. With grill, music, and filking.
When: Saturday August 14 from noon to 5pm
Where: Lake Temescal. More precisely, ...
Lake Temescal is off Broadway Terrace in Oakland. Admission is charged
daily, at $2.50 for adults, and $1.50 for children from ages 1-15.
If driving, Take Hwy 24 from Oakland and take the Broadway exit. Cross
Broadway and continue straight on the frontage road, as if going onto Hwy
13. Lake Temescal Regional Park is on the right, and there is ample
signage.
There are two buses that go by Lake Temescal from downtown Oakland:
Bus 59 (catch it at 20th Broadway, near the 19th St. BART station, or on
Oak St. outside the Lake Merritt BART station);
64 (catch it in front of the Rockridge BART station);
Ask the driver where to get off. It is approximately a half-mile walk into
the park from either bus stop.
Why: To have fun and get to know other people who use and work on GNU.
Smoking Policy: no smoking near the GNU Picnic site.
Software Policy: GPL
Please bring:
* Musical instruments. (ie. drums, flutes, and anything that makes a noise)
* Frisbies, kites, and other suitable toys.
* CDs and tapes to play.
* Blankets and towels for swimming.
* Food. Bring something you'd like to grill. Also bring another item
according to your last name. If your last name starts with:
- A through H, bring two quarts of a non-alcoholic beverage.
- I through P, bring cooked veggies or salad.
- Q through Z, bring dessert.
- a character from a foreign character set, bring some exotic
foreign edible.
- anything else, bring a dragon to grill the food. (If no one
brings a dragon, we'll use charcoal.)
Note: tabouli containing more cracked wheat than parsley is strictly
forbidden!
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:30:57 -0400
From: Robert Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: sendmail
Does any one know if it is possible to setup a cron job that would
e-mail me a pgp encrypted file as an e-mail attachment every morning.
If this is possible does anyone know how to use sendmail as a command
line.
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From: Jim McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Just a suggestion...
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:01:05 +
Jeff Goodman wrote:
Can we take the large number of postings in this (already very busy)
newsgroup that relate to communism, philosophy, name-calling, etc., and
not at all to Linux, and move them to a more appropriate forum? Just a
suggestion...
Jeff
Good idea. Ww don't need this stuff. I don't know who administers this
group, but it should be possible to block postings from any of the
offenders' e-mail addresses.
regards
Jim
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:10:08 +0100
From: Richi Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
hp.mail,hp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.dev.linuxnews,linux.largesites,linux.local.silicon-valley
Subject: OpenMail to Support Linux; Free Beta Version Now Available for Download
HP put out this press release today... /richi.
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OPENMAIL TO SUPPORT LINUX;
FREE BETA VERSION NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD
HP=92s Messaging/Collaboration Solution for the Linux Operating System i=
s
Proven, Robust and Fully Functional
PALO ALTO, Calif., Aug. 2, 1999 -- Hewlett-Packard Company today
announced that OpenMail 6.0, HP=92s strategic business-messaging and
Linux-Misc Digest #262
Linux-Misc Digest #262, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 15:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Posting MS Project 98 schedules on GNU/Linux +Apache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What I think of linux. (Anthony Ord)
Re: tar question (Eric Potter)
Re: netscape and newsgroups -- try this! (diffuze)
Re: bashrc help (Paul Kimoto)
Re: TTF Fonts ("R.K.Aa")
Re: video editing on linux? ("R.K.Aa")
Re: math.h problem (Steve Summit)
Re: Please Help!!!Problem this Reb Hat 6.0 installation (Leonard Evens)
Re: math.h problem (Steve Summit)
Re: netscape and newsgroups (Thomas Veach)
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Re: Linux Training ("Mikeg")
Re: lesstif and suse 6.1 (Hz back!)
Re: What I think of linux. (Hz back!)
rc.local (init) problem (Brian Laakso)
nntpcache ("Axel Müller")
Re: IDE vs scsi? (William Burrow)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Posting MS Project 98 schedules on GNU/Linux +Apache
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:17:45 GMT
I have just put together a Linux server for the office. Email, Samba
and apache works well, but... I can't find any way to enable Microsoft
Project 98 to "share" our projects on the server. I've tried to use the
web options of the program but it doesn't work.
Is it possible to solve this problems or I'm forced to use a MicroSoft
server ??
How can I put to work the mspjhhtp.exe that project install in the
samba public directory on the server?
Thanks and sorry for the English
PIETRO
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 17:25:47 GMT
In article UwFo3.5805$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
Anthony Ord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:04:57 GMT, "Brent Davies"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert V. Grizzard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:7no5bk$hkn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
snip
My local Barnes and Noble has copies of that immortal classic,
_Linux_For_Dummies_. *Someone* believes Linux is Ready For Prime Time.
snip
If Linux was considered to be only fit for backrooms with
Unix admins in attendance, their audience prediction would
be correspondingly smaller and they would not have gone on
with the project.
You may be right. It's not like they have an "Oracle for Dummies" book, or
books for other back-room programs (or do they?).
I seem to remember someone mentioning "Client/Server computing for
Dummies". I think it was just for the PHBs and just explaining terms
rather than how to do it.
snip
Maybe the "Dummies" books are good for that. But don't you think that
they'll have to write one "Dummies" book for each distribution? I mean,
when you're talking about DEUs, you have to know that they follow directions
screen-by-screen. They have no idea what to do when the setup utility asks
them which "Daemons to start at boot". So you'll have to have one book for
each dist, with screen-by-screen explinations, blah, blah.
No. Just create a "Dummies" distribution that comes with the book and
document that. By the time people move on from it, they should have at
least the semblance of a clue, and should know what "Daemons to start at
boot" means.
I think Linux is a powerful operating system and the 4 machines that I have
running it right now are doing so without any problems. But I am extremely
skeptical about the usefullness of Linux on the DEU's desktop.
If there are new reasons why my fears should be lessened, please explain.
After all, that's what Usenet's all about, right?
-Brent
Regards
Anthony
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| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: tar question
Date: 2 Aug 1999 16:44:34 GMT
Bob Koss enlightened this group thus:
I want to make a tar file of my home directory, but I wish to exclude
the subdirectory ~/Office51. How do I do that?
I must have tried every permutation of -X and --exclude options, but
the subdirectory always gets included.
cd
tar -c --exclude="Office51/*" -f - . | gzip /path/to/file.tar.gz
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From: diffuze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: netscape and newsgroups -- try this!
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:37:09 +0200
Ramin Sina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to do all my internet stuff (email, news, web) with
netscape which came with SuSE6.1. I have
Linux-Misc Digest #263
Linux-Misc Digest #263, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 16:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: math.h problem (Steve Summit)
Re: Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Robert Lynch)
Re: kernel 2.2.10 isofs bug? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: video editing on linux? (William Burrow)
Re: After glibc2 upgrade, make menuconfig won't work ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Matt Curtin)
Re: IDE vs scsi? (William Burrow)
Re: GDP (Peter Seebach)
Re: democracy and government power (Stefaan A Eeckels)
disabling promiscius mode (Thomas Glanzmann)
Re: math.h problem (Steve Summit)
Re: LILO Booting from "hdc", the third hard disk. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Running Bash with perl ("Timbo")
Re: Newbie in Houston (Chris)
Re: IDE vs scsi? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: guaranteed annual income ("A.T.Z.")
Re: Newbie in Houston (Donovan Rebbechi)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Summit)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: math.h problem
Date: 2 Aug 1999 18:04:20 GMT
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Kaz Kylheku) writes:
The -lm kludge is just another way in which Linux is compatible with other UNIX
operating systems. The -lm means that Makefile rules from other platforms work
on Linux. And conversely, Linux programmers are forced to adopt a convention
that will work on many other UNIX-like operating systems, so that it's one
less detail to worry about when porting. There are certain basic things
you can count on when programming on any randomly chosen UNIX; like -lm
for the math library, -O for optimization,
The problem can be fixed without breaking the -lm kludge or *any*
Makefile rules relying on it: put all the math stuff in *both* libc and
libm. This way, -lm will no longer be necessary, but including it on
the gcc command line will cause no harm.
Precisely.
This trick won't need any changes outside the glibc build procedure and
I can't think of any situation where the compatibility with other Unix
platforms will be affected.
The only *sensible* objection is that people who learn Unix on Linux will
have problems when switching to other Unix platform. However, compared to
the other problems when switching Unix platforms, this one is really
insignificant.
Agreed on all points.
Steve Summit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:10:51 -0700
From: Robert Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal
Richard Stallman wrote:
[ Please repost this wherever you think is appropriate! ]
Bay Area GNU Picnic, August 14 at Lake Temescal (Oakland)
Who: People who like or work on the GNU system. Perhaps you.
What: A GNU picnic on the beach. With grill, music, and filking.
[snip]
Anybody GkNow what "filking" is? :-)
Bob L.
P.S. Sorry if this appears twice; a first post seems to have failed
because it included gnu.announce.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,za.unix.misc
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.10 isofs bug?
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:43:28 -0500
You compiled isofs as a module, did you try loading it first?
/sbin/modprobe isofs
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Gebhardt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hello
I have recently upgraded my standard RedHat6.0
distribution (2.2.5-15) to kernel 2.2.10ac12.
I am now unable to access my CD-ROM. It is an
IDE/ATAPI device and is recognised successfully by
Linux, but trying to mount the CDROM, results in a
'bad inode' error.
Details are as follows:
Hardware: PII350, Intel T440BX MoBo, SAMSUNG
CD-ROM SCR-3231, ATAPI CDROM drive (hdb)
in compiling the kernel, the following config
options were set:
#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
...
#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_FAT_FS=m
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS=m
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m
CONFIG_JOLIET=y
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m
/etc/fstab:
--
...
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy
ext2noauto 0 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0
...
on typing:"mount /dev/cdrom" the following appears
in /var/log/messages:
Jul 28 16:26:18 gollach1 kernel: hdb: command
error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error
}
Jul 28 16:26:18 gollach1 kernel: hdb: command
error: error=0x50
Jul 28
Linux-Misc Digest #264
Linux-Misc Digest #264, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 17:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: IDE vs scsi? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: LUG in LONDON ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: video editing on linux? ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Netscape 4.61, libstdc++ version problems (Pinwu Xu)
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 (Patrick Barrett)
Help: Recall Last Command ("M. Cao")
'mount' freezes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
kdepath error solution (Rick Goyette)
Re: VB and Linux (NF Stevens)
bash question: changing path within script? ("G. Pollack")
Re: root authority?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Permission denied ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IDE vs scsi? ("Art S. Kagel")
Can't log in to Red Hat system. (Daniel Doreika)
Re: What I think of linux. (Hz back!)
Re: What I think of linux. (Hz back!)
Re: netscape and newsgroups (Hz back!)
Raid setup problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: TTF Fonts ("Christopher W. Aiken")
WordPerfect and True Type Fonts? (William Knechtel)
Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Donn Miller)
From: "Art S. Kagel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IDE vs scsi?
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:10:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. What is meant by multiple reads/writes is that SCSI can read and write to
all 7 or 15 devices on it's bus simultaneously while EIDE can only access one
of the two devices on each channel at a time. Also since EIDE controllers tend
to not be as intelligent as SCSI controllers I do not think, I am not certain,
that a mulit-channer EIDE controller can access even separate channels in
parallel.
Then there is Tagged Queuing which allows the SCSI controller to reorder reads
and even writes to optimize drive access. In a multi-user, and especially an
SMP, environment SCSI always out performs EIDE. The benchmark you quote sounds
suspiciously like a single user WinXX test to me.
Art S. Kagel
Stefan Ehlen wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
coffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Richard Steiner wrote:
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ehlen)
spake unto us, saying:
The fastest SCSI and the fastest EIDE drives are really close together.
How can this be when the fastest commonly available SCSI drives are all
usually 1rpm drives and the fastest commonly available EIDE drives
are only 7200?
--
-Rich Steiner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Burma Shave.
I dont think anyone can convince me that ide is as fast or faster then
scsi. Usually ide qoutes burst speed. This means ide writes/reads in
bursts. Scsi has a sustained speed.
Scsi is quite a bit faster and can perform multiple read/writes where
ide cannot and thus is quite a bit slower.
The benchmarks I quoted are made under realistic circumstands concerning
both segmentation of data and different file length. So your considerations
are automaticly taken into account.
I don't know what you mean by "multiple read/writes", but if you mean that
several sectors can be transferred within a single read/write access: EIDE
supports this, too, since some years.
Im no expert in scsi but on my system with a mylex 40mb/sec controller
and a good scsi drive I can see a world of difference between scsi and
ide. I would never ever buy ide again after switching to scsi.
In this case I assume your IDE disk does not use DMA, but PIO. PIO is much
slower than DMA, which made the big difference between SCSI and IDE in
former days. The first Chipset I know that allowed DMA transfer for IDE
was Trition II used in e.g. my Asus T2P4 mainboard, which is several years
old. Since then, DMA has become the standart transfer mode (for the main
boards, not for e.g. win9x, which must still be convinced by hand that DMA
is the better choice :-( ).
CU
Stefan
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LUG in LONDON
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:27:28 GMT
On 2 Aug 1999 14:57:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The web site is http://www.lonix.lug.org.uk/
The next meeting is
Date : Thursday August 5th 1999 6.00pm to 6.15pm
Place : Piccadilly Circus Station. Meet outside Tower Records basement
level. Tower records has two entraces to the store. One is directly
inside the underground station and one is on street level. We will
meet outside the basement level entrance. Look for the lonix sign.
why are you meeting outside a tube station ?
wouldn't a classroom or an office be a better location.
i know you can hire out office space at the weekends and educational
resources in the evening.
A sedentary life, as I have already said elsewhere, is the real sin against the Holy
Ghost.
-Nietzsche
--
From: "R.K.Aa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Linux-Misc Digest #265
Linux-Misc Digest #265, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Split infinitives (was: Re: My Linux box was hacked!) (Matt Curtin)
Re: Program to find optimal MTU? (Floyd Davidson)
Re: video editing on linux? (Vito DeFilippo)
Re: LOST ROOT PASSWORD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Newbie in Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: currencies (Donovan Rebbechi)
StarOffice RedHat 6.0 ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Newbie in Houston ("James Davis")
Re: Linux Net2Phone (Habibie4m)
Need help Setting UP News Client Using NetScape 4.6.1 (Habibie4m)
Re: ttf? ("R.K.Aa")
Re: What I think of linux. (Dan Delaney)
Re: kernel 2.2.10 isofs bug? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: POP Mail? (Joe Cotellese)
Red Hat 6.0 vs. 5.2 for UDB ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
tar restore problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problems with LILO and kernel size. (Dave Davenport)
From: Matt Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.usage.english
Subject: Split infinitives (was: Re: My Linux box was hacked!)
Date: 02 Aug 1999 16:32:18 -0400
On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:20:28 +0100, John M Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[Note that I'm crossposting to alt.usage.english and directing
followups there.]
Matt o "To either help" is a split infinitive, which is also
Matt grammatically incorrect.
John Actually, this is bullshit, as any linguist will tell you. The
John idea that one may not "split infinitives" is a remnant from a
John time when Latin was considered to be a relevant language.
For anyone still paying attention, John is making reference to the
origin of the debated "no split infinitive" rule in English. Although
a Germanic language, English grammar has been heavily influenced by
Latin. In Latin, split infinitives are not possible, as the
infinitive form of a verb is an inflected version of the verb.
(I suspect that the impossibility of splitting infinitives is true in
most languages; I know that this true for Russian. In cases I can
conjure, this is also true for German. However, my knowledge of
German isn't strong enough to proclaim this generally true; perhaps
someone who knows the language better than I would care to enlighten
us.)
I am grateful to Ashok Aiyar for privately writing to quote "the new
Oxford Dictionary of English", wherein it concludes "In the modern
context, some traditionalists may continue to hold up the split
infinitive as an error in English. However, in standard English the
principle of allowing split infinitives is broadly accepted as both
normal and useful."
Whilst I acknowledge that there are educated native speakers who will
disagree with my insistence upon split infinitive avoidance, the fact
of the matter is that "to help" is a single verb. "To either help" is
no more correct than "abso-frickin'-lutely".
--
Matt Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Program to find optimal MTU?
Date: 2 Aug 1999 18:03:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clifford Kite kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com wrote:
Floyd Davidson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Steve Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Is there a program to identify the optimal MTU for a given interface
: under Linux v2.2.x? If so, where might I find it?
: That would be impossible, because it depends on what you use the
: link for as well as how fast it is and what the latency is.
Yes, if "optimal" is defined that way. He may have meant Path MTU which
is defined as the largest MTU that doesn't fragment packets on any host
on the path. This is found through the Path MTU Discovery mentioned in
other replies.
I would assume that if he meant Path MTU that he would have
mentioned Path MTU instead of asking about the optimal MTU for a
given interface, which indicates Link MTU. Path MTU certainly
would be appropriate if he is writing networked applications.
But he is more likely setting up pppd options.
: For rough idea of what differences you might find, think in
: terms of efficiency and timing for PPP packets. A PPP packet
: has 40 bytes of overhead (addressing, etc.), so whatever the mtu
: is set to, that amount minus 40 bytes is the actual payload.
Actually it's the TCP-IP headers in IP packets riding on PPP that occupy
the 40 bytes.
Actually... The TCP header is 20 bytes, the IPv4 header is 20
bytes and the PPP frame header is 4 bytes. However, no matter
how one looks at the distribution, the point is that there are
40 bytes of overhead per packet fed to the PPP interface (which
adds 4 more that I was ignoring).
: For example, if you set the mtu to 128 there will be almost 1/3
: of each packet that is overhead and does not contribute to data
: transfer. If you do only large ftp transfers, that would cause a serious
: increase in the time it takes to transfer each file.
Linux-Misc Digest #266
Linux-Misc Digest #266, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 20:13:13 EDT
Contents:
ICQ (was Re: in response (Bev)
Re: What I think of linux. ("W.A. Scheer")
[Q] linux license? (student)
Help with installing source code package using RPM (Devesh Mistry)
Combined Host BUS and RedHat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IDE vs scsi? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
timing a subroutine (Jeff Silverman)
Re: Warning! The eclipse approaches... {5.6b} (William
Burrow)
Re: PPP and Linux ("propsync")
Large HD Access Problem ("Lord Byron")
Re: What I think of linux. (William Burrow)
Re: c++ grammer (Bruce Stephens)
Question: where can I download any LINUX? ("Alexander Berezhnoy")
ttf? (benjamin j snyder)
Scriptong Question (Jim McIntyre)
Re: LOST ROOT PASSWORD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver (Dan Bizuneh)
Re: IDE vs scsi? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: brain teaser (Hz back!)
Re: Just a suggestion... (Hz back!)
Re: [Q] linux license? (brian moore)
From: Bev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: ICQ (was Re: in response
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:36:35 -0700
Ray wrote:
On 2 Aug 1999 03:52:42 GMT, Daniel Forester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Larry Clark was talking... AGAIN...
: the ICQ clients I have had the most luck with but still haven't been able
: to get to work are :
: micq
: xicq
: zicq
: close but no cigar...can' anyone help me,
: thanks larry
I had tried installing various versions of licq (http://licq.wibble.net/),
but was unsuccessful in the install... turns out I didn't have the QT
includes... installed the QT-devel package (via rpm), and got ANOTHER
version of licq, klicq, and it installed just fine.
I think this version, klicq, applies only if you're running KDE,
right? Linuxberg gives it (and it's "parent", licq) five gold Tuxes.
But, I've been hearing in this newsgroup that it's buggy. Are there
better ICQ clients? Or do they all have their own problems?
The ordinary genuine ICQ installed perfectly into my suse 6.1 installation
-- which was a surprise, because I had to try two different jdks to
install it into my old 3.4 slackware. The things I don't like about the
original are the tiny fonts, inability to save stuff, tiny fonts, the fact
that the 'chat' function doesn't update until you hit return, and the 'go
to URL' function doesn't. Oh yeah, the fonts are too tiny. I installed
gtkicq, but it seemed even less capable and was destroyed. If there are
any good reports maybe I'll try kicq, which is in the suse 6.1
distribution OK, I had already installed it (well jeez, it was only a
few weeks ago!). It looks exactly like the normal ICQ, except with none
of the blanks filled in and fewer functions. Sent a message. We'll see
what happens...
This is the third time I've had to ask people to re-authorize me, and
this time it's taking weeks. Does the novelty wear off this fast for
everybody?
AIM looked nicer, but insists on exploding far too frequently.
--
Cheers,
Bev
==
"Tough? We drink our urine and eat our dead!"
-- N. Heilweil
--
From: "W.A. Scheer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:44:37 -0700
James Knott wrote in message ...
My first computer was an IMSAI 8080, which was a (better built) clone
of the Altair. I also struggled with cassettes.
Just wondering why you went with the IMSAI instead of the Altair? For me, it
was a REALLY technical reason ... the switches looked less cheesy!!
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (student)
Subject: [Q] linux license?
Date: 2 Aug 1999 21:56:21 GMT
Hi!
I have some administrative questions.
As a end user, I've been wondering the question related to
the license of linux.
Specifically, for example, many linux OSes
such as RedHat, Slackware, Debian, etc
have 'free' or 'share' packages of gnu society
for compilers, editors, xterms, etc, in their CDROM.
In that case, the company of RedHat or Slackware or Debian
need to pay some license fee to 'gnu' society?
(Or to any person that made free/share packages called freeware/shareware).
Or they don't need to pay to them at all.
If they do not need to pay at all, can I(as an end user)
sell my own CDROM that has such freeware/shareware packages
without violating any law?
Any replies would be appreciated.
James.
--
From: Devesh Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with installing source code package using RPM
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:55:46 -0400
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to install one of source code package
(telnet-0.10-5.src.rpm) located on CD-2 of redhat's 5.2
Linux-Misc Digest #267
Linux-Misc Digest #267, Volume #21Mon, 2 Aug 99 22:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: CIA assassinations (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Problems with LILO and kernel size. (Gergo Barany)
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (ST)
Re: install problem ("Michael L. Lockhart")
Re: corrupt wtmp (L J Bayuk)
Betrieve for linux (Christophe Zwecker)
Re: ICQ (was Re: in response (Larry Clark)
Re: IDE vs scsi? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: bashrc help (Johan Kullstam)
Buy Linux Cds (Matthew Omolayole)
Boot-up error messages (Ray)
Re: [Q] linux license? (Christopher Browne)
Re: VB and Linux (Mats Pettersson)
HL720 printer, ghostscript and printtool ("Michael L. Lockhart")
tulip.c 0.91 with Lite-On PNIC and other NICs (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: Java makes Netscape crash (jamie)
Re: Just a suggestion... (Robert V. Grizzard)
Re: filesystem corruption (Chris Mahmood)
Re: helping the Third World ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: IDE vs scsi? (Robert Heller)
Re: setenv command (Lev Babiev)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:56:04 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:08:37 GMT...
..and MK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:59:27 +0200, "A.T.Z." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The problem is, as Adam Smith put it, in effective demand. The demand
only matters when it can be paid for. There are lots of people in the
world who have a demand for very basic things, but their demand is not
effective, because it can't be paid for. It does not matter really
what the size is. It's the quality, not the quantity, that matters.
The number of customers is not panacea.
Right, but most countries in the EU are not exactly poor. Most consumers have an
income high enough to effort some luxuri and are willing to spend that money.
Absolutely true.
The problem is the future. The trend. If it goes on like that, the
whole Europe is going to become one big scansen. The nice
museum that Japanese take photographs in.
In case they get over their economic crisis, that is. Unlike e.g. Japan's
economy, Europe's is at least built upon solid foundations.
The comparative
advantage. What's our comparative advantage?
Education. As far as I know, USAmerican education is pretty much a
joke compared to, say, German education.
Of course, if the only thing that matters to you is a small elite, and
not a large, well-educated and well-informed mass of working citizens
who are able to do their part in a functional democracy, the
USAmerican system might please you better.
mawa
--
Floss!
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: Problems with LILO and kernel size.
Date: 2 Aug 1999 23:41:03 GMT
On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:52:24 -0700, Dave Davenport
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi. Stupid newbie question here. I'm running Redhat 6.0 and using
xconfig to compile a new kernel (hopefully with SB16 support). The
compile goes fine, but when I run LILO to add the new kernel as a 'test'
option, LILO gives me a 'kernel too large' error message. The smallest
kernel I've been able to compile has been about 1.2 megs. Is there
anything I'm missing or will I have to pare more support out of it?
During kernel compilation, try making "bzImage" instead of "zImage" and
(if you use "zlilo") "bzlilo" instead of "zlilo".
Gergo
--
Any stone in your boot always migrates against the pressure gradient to
exactly the point of most pressure.
-- Milt Barber
GU d- s:+ a--- C++$ UL+++ P++ L+++ E++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R+ tv++ b DI+ D+ G++ e* h! !r !y+
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ST)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:05:09 GMT
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
Larry Ozarow wrote:
Are you sure the module has been loaded?
when I do lsmod it shows as loaded. But I got no sound :-/
I'm using an AudioPCI with the es1370 chip. Under kernel 2.2.10 all I
had to do was compile es1370 support as a module. I pseudo-manually
load the driver by including the line "/sbin/modprobe es1370" in my
rc.local file. No configuration necessary.
Should I try switching from 2.2.7 to 2.2.10 ??
I used to use the ALSA drivers with a 2.0.x kernel, but haven't
gotten around to trying them with the new kernel.
OK. I'll try also the pseudo-manually load of this module ;)
Thank you Larry,
Sinner
I'm having the same problem. I have a Creative SB Audio PC64D with an
IRQ of 11 and an I/O range of 1800-183F. Everytime I try to run
Linux-Misc Digest #268
Linux-Misc Digest #268, Volume #21Tue, 3 Aug 99 00:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help with installing source code package using RPM (Lev Babiev)
Re: [Q] linux license? (Robert Heller)
Re: bash question: changing path within script? (Lev Babiev)
Couple of questions... (Kyaphas G Hill)
Re: Java makes Netscape crash (Rado Faletic)
Re: helping the Third World ("Joseph T. Adams")
setenv command ("theoddone33")
Re: Posting MS Project 98 schedules on GNU/Linux +Apache ("Anton")
Re: NT Linux - dual boot (Mark Post)
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 ("nobody")
SVGATextMode and RIVA TNT (Diamond Viper V550) (Michael Champagne)
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 (Rado Faletic)
Re: TTF Fonts (Glen Turner)
VB and Linux ("tim")
Lots of free music software for linux (Jason Horton)
Re: What I think of linux. (Terry Porter)
Re: SVGATextMode with Riva TNT (Diamond Viper V550) (insf)
Re: xview in RedHat 6.0 (Carl Fink)
Re: IDE vs scsi? (Rod Smith)
Re: WordPerfect and True Type Fonts? (Rod Smith)
Re: POP Mail? ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Linux Counter: 109930 registered Linux users (Terry Porter)
rp'ms needed for apache?
ls - fileutils 4.0 ("Kurt V. Hindenburg")
From: Lev Babiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with installing source code package using RPM
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 21:32:49 -0400
I fyou install ( -i ) srpm package it will actually install the soruce:
place .spec file into /usr/src/redhat/SPECS and put sources to
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES. To actually install the program you first have
rebuild the srpm file into a binray rpm do rpm --rebuild file.src.rpm
Also for query ( -q ) you shouldn't use wildcards, not even filename,
you should use package name, i.e. telnet-0.10-5.i386.rpm file means
package name is telnet, or telnet-0.10-5, do omit .i386.rpm part when
referring to package (do use it when you are referring to a file
though).
As for glint - the only advice I can give is - don't use it. I heard
people from RedHat themselves saying how horrible it is ;-)
- Lev
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to install one of source code package
(telnet-0.10-5.src.rpm) located on CD-2 of redhat's 5.2 version of
distribution.
Every time i try to use "rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/SRPMS/tel*" command, it
prints following:
telnet # (not sure about exact
number of hashes)
And then when i use "rpm -q /mnt/cdrom/SRPMS/tel*" command it gives me
following
package /mnt/cdrom/SRPMS/telnet* is not installed
Can anyone help me out as to why i am not able to install?
Another question:
When i use the GUI version of rpm (glint) and i try to click "available"
button for /mnt/cdrom/SRPMS directory, it always comes up with an error
message that "there are no packages available at that location". Is
there any "trick" involved?
Any help is greatly appreciated. As you can tell, i am a new user of
linux.
And also if it helps, i am running it on a pentium based pc.
thanks,
devesh
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From: Robert Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Q] linux license?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 01:15:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (student),
In a message on 2 Aug 1999 21:56:21 GMT, wrote :
s Hi!
s
s I have some administrative questions.
s As a end user, I've been wondering the question related to
s the license of linux.
s Specifically, for example, many linux OSes
s such as RedHat, Slackware, Debian, etc
s have 'free' or 'share' packages of gnu society
s for compilers, editors, xterms, etc, in their CDROM.
s In that case, the company of RedHat or Slackware or Debian
s need to pay some license fee to 'gnu' society?
Nope, unless they wanted to.
s (Or to any person that made free/share packages called freeware/shareware).
s Or they don't need to pay to them at all.
s
s If they do not need to pay at all, can I(as an end user)
s sell my own CDROM that has such freeware/shareware packages
s without violating any law?
Yes. Freeware certainly. You need to check in the case of *some*
shareware packages, but generally if you distribute the shareware
package *in its original distribution* form, yes. Oh, with freeware,
you are obligated to make the sources available at no extra charge (GNU
Public License).
s Any replies would be appreciated.
s
s James.
s
s
s
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