Linux-Misc Digest #81
Linux-Misc Digest #81, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 09:13:02 EST Contents: Re: Linux / Siemens scenic mobile 700 (David E. Fox) Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Tom Wilson") Re: How to restore LILO and how to boot from floppy (Michael Heiming) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux ("Peter T. Breuer") Re: Please visit my 3D graphics site (riceman) CD-ROM questions. (Yiu) Kernel access to Flash-ROM ? ("C. Lechner") PLD? (Harlan Grove) Re: *U r g e n t* (Roger Leigh) console blanking and 2.4.1 (Christian Stocker) Re: xv_get_sel alike tools for Linux (Marc D. Williams) Re: help with configuring ssh server to support both ssh1 and ssh2 (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Optimize for Speed? (eric the brave) IP Masquerade ? (Eric Chow) Re: Boot-Cd ("Tauno Voipio") Re: CD-ROM questions. ("Tauno Voipio") Re: How to restore LILO and how to boot from floppy (Don McKenzie) bash history (Brian Goodyear) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x Subject: Re: Linux / Siemens scenic mobile 700 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:48:31 -0800 On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:25:23 +, fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an old Siemens Scenic Mobile 700 notebook with a CT65550 chipset and I still can't setup X. Anyone out there with the same old notebook who can help me? I just completed an assignment at Entex IT Service (a Siemens company). We had several linuxers in our office -- if you contact me by email I might try and get you some help. We had a few Scenic Mobile's (I used a Siemens desktop machine) in the office, but they all ran Windows. Failing that, see if the underlying chipset is supported by xfree.org. Is it, for instance, listed as a choice in Xconfigurator? -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. === -- From: "Tom Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:32:34 GMT "The Ghost In The Machine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In comp.os.linux.advocacy, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:52:31 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Stefan Ohlsson writes: I know the atheists have a theory that man will develop to a super-man that can travel back in time and will create it all. That's the simple version anyway. I know, sounds weird. Who are "the" atheists? Steve Mading writes: Are you being deliberately silly? Well, it isn't as silly as the old guy with the beard. Hey! I have a beard, and I'm not old! :-) (Just because I can remember the VMS commands to compile FORTRAN and COBOL programs back in the mid-80's..) Face it...We're getting there. (Reliving compilation commands for RPG under AS-400) -- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:37:14 +0100 From: Michael Heiming [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: alt.windows95 Subject: Re: How to restore LILO and how to boot from floppy Jianxin Wang wrote: Hi, there, I have Linux Mandrak7.0 installed on my PC and I just upgraded my windows95 to windows98. After upgrading, I can no longer boot into linux,I can only boot windows98. I tried to boot from the linux start up disk,but my PC ignores the floppy! The floppy drive works fine and the machine reads the floppy at start up, but it still boot windows98! I guess maybe I should run a CMOS set up to check the boot sequence of all my disk drives and make the floppy drive the first drive to boot, but to my surprise, my computer asks me for a password like this:"Please enter current password: ". I have never set a password on the CMOS set up therefore I am not able to run the CMOS set up. I check the motherboard mannual for help. It says that I have to drain the CMOS memory. I tried to look for a battery on the motherboard but I can not find anything that looks like a battery! Please help. Jason Hello, most times there is a small DIP interruptor or some kind of calliper on your mobo, described in the doc that makes it possible to reset BIOS pwd, check your manual again (perhaps the online version) are you sure that the manual is really the right one for your mobo? Ask there were you bought the machine from, perhaps they put in a pwd and know it. Good luck Michael Heiming -- From: "Peter T. Breuer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:37:02 +0100 Vladimir Florinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subsequently based on RedHat. RedHat 7.0 had minor bugs here and there, Minor! Being
Linux-Misc Digest #82
Linux-Misc Digest #82, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 15:13:03 EST Contents: Re: the best? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: IP Masquerade ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) KDE2 prob: libkdecore.so.3 and symbols(?) (Kyle Parfrey) Consensys RAIDZONE SmartCan RAID Array (Alexei V klimenko) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (John Hasler) Gimp-Print ("N. Emons") Re: netscape lock file (James Silverton) Re: netscape lock file (Robert Heller) Re: KDE2 prob: libkdecore.so.3 and symbols(?) (Markus Kossmann) 3D (or 2D) Animation program? (Carl Fink) Simple fax program (Eric Ho) Simple fax program (Eric Ho) Re: KDE2 prob: libkdecore.so.3 and symbols(?) (Kyle Parfrey) Re: very basic basic newbie question ("Jack Altradmon") SONY GDM-1952 MONITOR(fixed-freq) ("Robert H. Williams") Re: Optimize for Speed? ("Donald Donovan") Re: I need software recommendations: ("Bill Piety") Re: Simple fax program ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: 3D (or 2D) Animation program? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: netscape lock file (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Trying to Understand hdparm a Little Better (Yvan Loranger) init_module: device or resource busy (Fester) Re: Gimp-Print (Leonard Evens) Re: Trouble with via ac97 sound (Peter Petersen) Maxtor ATA/100 controller (Ryan) Re: Trouble with via ac97 sound (Peter Petersen) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Mark Bratcher) wanna buy a $200 Linux computer? (NetVAR) Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? (Meik Brand) crash because SCSI device is off?? (Claus Atzenbeck) Re: Linux not free anymore? (steve) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the best? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:32:18 + news.baylor.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble: I am sure you all get this question all the time, but I have to ask because I have not been able to decide myself Which distribution of Linux is your favorite? Debian? RedHat? Corel? I don't think you'll get many people with Corel as their favourite... SuSE for me. -- = | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a| | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit | |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally coded for a 4 bit | |in|microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that| | Computer Science |can't stand 1 bit of competition. | = -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP Masquerade ? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:29:24 GMT Eric Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you please to teach me how to setup IP-Masquerade in Linux ? Would you please to teach me step by step ? Make sure that you installed the documentation when you installed Linux, then: jbuchana@flenser$ cd /usr/doc jbuchana@flenser$ find . -print | grep -i masq You should find lots of info. And also, how can my Modem automatic to dialup when Linux start ? Would you please to show me a script to do this with auto login ? Even better: jbuchana@flenser$ pwd /usr/doc jbuchana@flenser$ find . -print | grep -i diald ./HOWTO/HTML/en/mini/Diald.html jbuchana@flenser$ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Since you're already familiar with deja.com, try perching for these topics as well. Lots of good posts in the past. -- Jim Buchanan[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] === http://www.buchanan1.net/ == "It's a good thing the USS Hopper wasn't going to the Seattle area, or I might have tried to talk the skipper into bombarding Microsoft" -Jerry Pournelle = Visit: http://www.thehungersite.com == -- From: Kyle Parfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KDE2 prob: libkdecore.so.3 and symbols(?) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:40:25 GMT Hello all, I have installed kde2.01 on a debian 2.2 system, which ran fine, but now refuses to load. I get the following error message: "/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 : undefined symbol : getButtonShift_14QPlatinumStyle RiT1 " from ksplash, kdeinit, knotify and a few others. I had recently installed licq and the qt plugin, but it still doesn't work upon removal of these. I also reinstalled kdelibs3 (the libary's package) but it again didn't work. Anyone know how to get kde to load again? How did this happen in the first place? Thanks, Kyle -- From: Alexei V klimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Consensys RAIDZONE SmartCan RAID Array Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:40:51 GMT Hi! I did not ever expect to encounter a problem of some hardware not to be supported by Linux but it looks like this day had come. I tried several different kernels with several different patches and I still can't make 'subj'
Linux-Misc Digest #83
Linux-Misc Digest #83, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 17:13:01 EST Contents: Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Looking for great links to the best Java Flash and Linux sites !!! Go to --- http://members.home.nl/stoelie (stoelie) Re: netscape lock file ("Peter T. Breuer") Re: init_module: device or resource busy (Michael Heiming) Re: Simple fax program ("Peter T. Breuer") Lock screen password? ("Robert Morelli") Re: IP Masquerade ? (sfcybear) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux ("Matt O'Toole") stupid mistake (olliecat) Re: netscape lock file (James Silverton) CPU Speed requirement for each software?? ("kellyboy") Re: bash history (David Efflandt) Re: Compiling 2.4.1 kernel, no aic7xxx module found (Mike Perry) Re: Olympus D-340L crashes gphoto (Linux) (David Efflandt) Re: SONY GDM-1952 MONITOR(fixed-freq) (David Efflandt) mdk 7.2 cups Epson 760 (JGP) Beginner - Can't get XFree86 to work ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) serial printer problem (Frank Beatrous) Newbie Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Newbie Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Konqueror speed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: wanna buy a $200 Linux computer? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:59:45 GMT Meik Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Disco Stu wrote: i use pine, i vote for kmail 2 it is shipped with kde 2.xx. Might I suggest Fetchmail? It works regardless of what environment you're working in, functioning even in the absence of a terminal. It eliminates any GUI dependancies, allowing the use of virtually whatever mail _reader_ you might want to use. -- (reverse (concatenate 'string "gro.gultn@" "enworbbc")) http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/unix.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #112. "I will not rely entirely upon "totally reliable" spells that can be neutralized by relatively inconspicuous talismans." http://www.eviloverlord.com/ -- From: stoelie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat Subject: Looking for great links to the best Java Flash and Linux sites !!! Go to --- http://members.home.nl/stoelie Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:07:11 GMT http://members.home.nl/stoelie -- From: "Peter T. Breuer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netscape lock file Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:09:46 +0100 Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Silverton wrote: In my experience, it is usually caused by attempting to have more than one instance of Netscape open at the same time. I have even managed it by accidentally double-clicking the Netscape item in KDE! I do not think so. My sister and I were both logged into this machine at You are quite right. the same time and we were each running Netscape at the same time. No problems at all. She was logged in on her account and I on mine, of course. Linux is a true multi-user multi-programming (and on this machine, multi-processing as well) operating system, and fortunately Netscape is smart enough to know it. It doesn't have to be smart. Quite the opposite, it would have to be smarter to know it, and it isn't. Peter -- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:17:19 +0100 From: Michael Heiming [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: init_module: device or resource busy Fester wrote: I'm attempting to install the linux driver for the Aureal Vortex sound card, and when I try, it gives me the message: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/misc/au8830.o: init_module: device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be cause by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters I have no idea how to even begin solving this problem. Could somebody point me in the right direction? -- -- Fester "I find it amusing that you addressed me as Jesus." = Hello, you should start reading here (comes with the kernel sources): /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt lsmod #see which modules are loaded in the kernel rmmod #unload modules modprobe #load modules (You shouldn't use insmod) apropos modules #will show you all man pages on this topic, including the above. Good luck Michael Heiming -- From: "Peter T. Breuer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple fax program Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:26:05 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for a fax program that can simply send/receive faxes. I have looked at Hylafax, but it seems to be an overkill. Eric Ho efax perhaps? That's what I've used whenever I did any faxing, but it's been quite awhile. The interface is rather primitive as I
Linux-Misc Digest #84
Linux-Misc Digest #84, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Re: bash history (Brian Goodyear) Re: Optimize for Speed? ("dom") Re: writing hello world in linux ("Wlliam Bennet") Soundcard Configuration ("Kyle C. Smith") Re: Newbie Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: Brian Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bash history Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:24:51 -0500 David Efflandt wrote: I imagine that ~/.bash_history is only saved from the last time you logged out of a login shell. How many lines are in your .bash_history and what does the following tell you: env | grep HIST Nothing. Here is the output of the set command: BASH=/bin/bash BASH_VERSION=1.14.7(1) COLORTERM= COLUMNS=72 DISPLAY=:0 EUID=0 HISTFILE=/root/.bash_history HISTFILESIZE=500 HISTSIZE=500 HOME=/root HOST=goodyear.and.friends HOSTNAME=goodyear HOSTTYPE=i386 IFS= JAVA_HOME=/usr/java KDEDIR=/opt/kde KDEDIRS=/opt/kde2 KDEHOME=/root/.kde2 KDE_INITIAL_DESKTOP=1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/root/.kde2/lib:/opt/kde2/lib LESSCHARSET=latin1 LINES=17 LOGNAME=root LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=/root/.kde2/lib:/opt/kde2/lib MAIL=/var/spool/mail/root MAILCHECK=60 OPENWINHOME=/usr/openwin OPTERR=1 OPTIND=1 OSTYPE=Linux PAGER=less PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin: PPID=1134 PS1=[\u@\h \W]\$ PS2= PS4=+ PWD=/root QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 SESSION_MANAGER=local/goodyear.and.friends:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1095 SHELL=/bin/bash SHLVL=2 TERM=xterm UID=0 USER=root _=HIST _ETC_PROFILE=1 'set" HISTSIZE=500 is not a valid statement (mismatched quotes). Perhaps you want to use the following in one of your profile or bashrc files: export HISTSIZE=500 Yes I know...that was a rather uncouth way to say that set says HISTSIZE=500 -- Thanks, Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- From: "dom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Optimize for Speed? Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:30:42 -0500 go away... In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "philriou" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After installed the linux, I feel everything is de ja vu all over. I wonder if any of you ever use Mac? When MSwindows release, it just like a couple generation lag of Apple Mac Os. Then MSwindows95 released, It seem begin to catch up Mac OS a little but still a generation Lag. When Windows98 arrived to the market, it almost catch up MacOS. Now Win2K is shoulder to shoulder if not exceed in some form... what an improvement. In Linux case, from what I look at, is exactly the mirror except I think Linux is slower to catching up. Let's not forget Microsoft have BUCK$ in RD over the years.. What Linux have is few dollars with few poor volunteer programmers. Once these programmer run into financial trouble, the project, one way or other, got to pause if not stop. That's is why, invest into Linux is a waste of time for serious businesses. MS people is right, Linux is a challenge but will not threatening Windows OS. Here are some living proof. Each new Linux released, the OS getting bigger and clumsier. Each time you upgrade it, you will find more conflict and your PC getting slower. Each time you decide to use it, you'll find the more programs written for the OS with full of flaw. Isn't it all deja Vu? Except one thing, Linux is much cheaper but useless if hardly find a great commercial software suit to my need. __ Gertjan Vinkesteyn wrote: I use ctwm, why a Windows like interface? ctwm is fast and small. you can get it at http://www.freshmeat.net -- Gertjan Vinkesteijn email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gvink -- From: "Wlliam Bennet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: writing hello world in linux Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:33:12 GMT "Harlan Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:95un09$3rr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have never done c programing and I am only just learning linux so am a serious amateur. Buy the book 'The C Programming Language (2nd ed.)' by Brian W. Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie, and follow the instructions. This is the One True Text for C. Avoid this book if your a beginner, it's more a reference not a learning tool. -- From: "Kyle C. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux Subject: Soundcard Configuration Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:44:08 -0500 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I need a little help configuring my soundcard. I have Mandrake 7.2 and an Aureal Vortex 2 soundcard. During the installation I was told to get the drivers at linux.aureal.com, a site that I have found no longer exists. The redhat sound configuration tool that comes with Mandrake did not work. Before Mandrake, I tried out Corel 1, and it configured my
Linux-Misc Digest #87
Linux-Misc Digest #87, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 3 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 3 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:04:01 GMT You can also compile True Type Font support into your X server directly. Again, refer to the xfsft Home Page for details. 4.13. How Can I Boot Linux from MS-DOS? If LILO doesn't work, and if the machine has MS-DOS or Microsoft Windows, you may be left with a computer that won't boot. This can also happen on an upgrade to your Linux distribution. Re-installing LILO is the last thing that the installation does. So it is vitally important when installing or upgrading Linux on a dual boot machine, to have a MS-DOS or Windows rescue disk nearby so you can FDISK -MBR. Then you can go about using LOADLIN.EXE instead of LILO. This config.sys file is one possible way to invoke LOADLIN.EXE and boot MS-DOS or Linux. [menu] menuitem=DOS, Dos Boot menuitem=LINUX, Linux Boot [LINUX] shell=c:\redhat\loadlin.exe c:\redhat\autoboot\vmlinuz vga=5 root=/dev [DOS] STACKS = 0,0 rem all the other DOS drivers get loaded here. This creates a menu where you can directly jump to LOADLIN.EXE before all of the MS-DOS drivers get loaded. The paths and options are peculiar to one machine and should be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. See the LOADLIN.EXE docs for options. They are the same as LILO, and options are just passed to the kernel, anyhow. [Jim Harvey] 4.14. How Can I Boot Linux from OS/2's Boot Manager? 1. Create a partition using OS/2's FDISK.EXE (Not Linux's fdisk). 2. Format the partition under OS/2, either with FAT or HPFS. This is so that OS/2 knows about the partition being formatted. (This step is not necessary with OS/2 `warp' 3.0.) 3. Add the partition to the Boot Manager. 4. Boot Linux, and create a file system on the partition using mkfs -t ext2 or mke2fs. At this point you may, if you like, use Linux's fdisk to change the code of the new partition to type 83 (Linux Native)--this may help some automated installation scripts find the right partition to use. 5. Install Linux on the partition. 6. Install LILO on the Linux partition--NOT on the master boot record of the hard drive. This installs LILO as a second-stage boot loader on the Linux partition itself, to start up the kernel specified in the LILO configuration file. To do this, you should put boot = /dev/hda2 (where /dev/hda2 is the partition you want to boot from) in your /etc/lilo/config or /etc/lilo.config file. 7. Make sure that it is the Boot Manager partition that is marked active, so that you can use Boot Manager to choose what to boot. There is a set of HOWTO's on the subject of multi-boot systems at the LDP Home Page, http://www.linuxdoc.org/. 5. File Systems, Disks, and Drives 5.1. How Can I Get Linux to Work with My Disk? If your disk is an IDE or EIDE drive, you should read the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/README.ide (part of the Linux kernel source code). This README contains many helpful hints about IDE drives. Many modern IDE controllers do translation between `physical' cylinders/heads/sectors, and `logical' ones. SCSI disks are accessed by linear block numbers. The BIOS invents some `logical' cylinder/head/sector fiction to support DOS. An IBM PC-compatible BIOS will usually not be able to access partitions which extend beyond 1024 logical cylinders, and will make booting a Linux kernel from such partitions using LILO problematic at best. You can still use such partitions for Linux or other operating systems that access the controller directly. It's recommend that you create at least one Linux partition entirely under the 1024 logical cylinder limit, and boot from that. The other partitions will then be okay. Also there seems to be a bit of trouble with the newer Ultra-DMA drives. I haven't gotten the straight scoop on them--but they are becoming a very common problem at the SVLUG installfests. When you can get 8 to 12 Gig drives for $200 to $300 it's no wonder. [Jim Dennis] 5.2. How Can I Undelete Files? In general, this is very hard to do on unices because of their multitasking nature. Undelete functionality for the ext2fs file system is being worked on, but don't hold your breath. There are a number of packages available which instead provide new commands for deleting and copying which move deleted files into a `wastebasket' directory. The files can be recovered until cleaned out automatically by background processing. Alternatively, you can search the raw disk device which holds the file system in question. This is hard work, and you will need to be logged in as root to do this. But
Linux-Misc Digest #85
Linux-Misc Digest #85, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 1 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 1 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:03:07 GMT Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers This is the list of Frequently Asked Questions for Linux, the free operating system kernel that runs on many modern computer systems. The kernel source code documentation says that Linux "aims for POSIX compliance." Linux uses mostly free, GNU system utilities and application software, although commercial programs are available also. Originally written for 386/486/586 Intel/ISA bus machines, Linux versions exist for nearly every hardware platform in existence that is capable of running it. (Please refer to the question, "What Is Linux?" below.) This FAQ is meant to be read in conjunction with the Linux Documentation Project's HOWTO series. ("Where Can I Get Linux Material by FTP?" and, "Where Can I Get the HOWTO's and Other Documentation?") The INFO-SHEET and META-FAQ also list sources of Linux information. Please read them, and, "You Still Haven't Answered My Question!" before posting to a Usenet news group. You can also get Postscript, HTML, and SGML versions of this document. ("Formats in Which This FAQ Is Available.") 1. Introduction and General Information 1.1. What Is Linux? 1.2. Where Do I Start? 1.3. What Software Does Linux Support? 1.4. Where Can I Find Application XXX? (Was: Has Anyone Ported/Compiled/Written XXX for Linux?) 1.5. Does Linux Run on My Computer? What Hardware Is Supported? 1.6. What Ports to Other Processors Are There? 1.7. How Much Hard Disk Space Does Linux Need? 1.8. How Much Memory Does Linux Need? 1.9. How Much Memory Can Linux Use? 1.10. Does Linux Support Universal System Bus Devices? 1.11. Is Linux Public Domain? Copyrighted? 1.12. Is Linux *nix? 2. Topics of Current Interest. 2.1. Should I Upgrade to the 2.4.0 Kernel? Now? 2.2. Should I Use the Red Hat 7.0 kgcc Compiler? 2.3. What Resources Are There for Linux DeCSS and Other Open Source DVD Software? 2.4. Where Is Information About Electronic Privacy Laws that Affect ISP's? 2.5. How Is the DocBook Version of the FAQ Produced? 3. Network Sources and Resources 3.1. Where Can I Get the Latest Kernel Version? 3.2. Where Can I Get the HOWTO's and Other Documentation? 3.3. Where Should I Look on the World Wide Web for Linux Stuff? 3.4. What News Groups Are There for Linux? 3.5. What Other FAQ's Are There for Linux? 3.6. Where Can I Get Linux Material by FTP? 3.7. I Don't Have FTP Access. Where Do I Get Linux? 3.8. I Don't Have Usenet Access. Where Do I Get Information? 3.9. What Mailing Lists Are There? 3.10. Where Are Linux Legal Issues Discussed? 3.11. Where Can I Find Out About Unmaintained Free Software? 3.12. Are the News Groups Archived Anywhere? 3.13. Where Can I Find Out About Security Related Issues? 3.14. Where Can I Find Linux System Specifications? 4. Compatibility with Other Operating Systems 4.1. Can Linux Share My Disk with DOS? OS/2? 386BSD? Win95? 4.2. How Do I Access Files on My DOS Partition or Floppy? 4.3. Does Linux Support Compressed Ext2 File Systems? 4.4. Can I Use My Stacked/DBLSPC/Etc. DOS Drive? 4.5. Can I Access OS/2 HPFS Partitions from Linux? 4.6. Can Linux Access Amiga File Systems? 4.7. Can Linux Access BSD, SysV, Etc. UFS? 4.8. Can Linux Access SMB File Systems? 4.9. Can Linux Access Macintosh File Systems? 4.10. Can I Run Microsoft Windows Programs under Linux? 4.11. Where Can I Get Information about NFS Compatibility? 4.12. Can I Use True Type Fonts with Linux? 4.13. How Can I Boot Linux from MS-DOS? 4.14. How Can I Boot Linux from OS/2's Boot Manager? 5. File Systems, Disks, and Drives 5.1. How Can I Get Linux to Work with My Disk? 5.2. How Can I Undelete Files? 5.3. How Do I Make Backups? 5.4. How Do I Resize a Partition (Non-Destructively)? 5.5. Is There a Defragmenter for Ext2fs, Etc.? 5.6. How Do I Format and Create a File System on a Floppy? 5.7. Does Linux Support Virtualized File Systems Like RAID? 5.8. Does Linux Support File System Encryption? 5.9. I Get Nasty Messages about Inodes, Blocks, and the Like. 5.10. My Swap Area Isn't Working. 5.11. How Do I Add Temporary Swap Space? 5.12. How Do I Remove LILO So My System Boots DOS Again?
Linux-Misc Digest #88
Linux-Misc Digest #88, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 4 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 4 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:04:25 GMT 7.3. Netscape Crashes Frequently Netscape shouldn't crash, if it and the network are properly configured. Some things to check: * Make sure that the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable is correctly set. If you installed Netscape under /usr/local/netscape/, for example, that should be the value of MOZILLA_HOME. Set it from the command line (e.g, "export MOZILLA_HOME="/usr/local/netscape"" under bash or add it to one your personal or system initialization files. Refer to the manual page for your shell for details. * If you have a brand-new version of Netscape, try a previous version, in case the run-time libraries are slightly incompatible. For example, if Netscape version 4.75 is installed (type "netscape --version" at the shell prompt), try installing version 4.7. All versions are archived at ftp://ftp.netscape.com/. * Netscape uses its own Motif and Java Runtime Environment libraries. If a separate version of either is installed on your system, ensure that they aren't interfering with Netscape's libraries; e.g., by un-installing them. * Make sure that Netscape can connect to its default name servers. The program will appear to freeze and time out after several minutes if it can't. This indicates a problem with the system's Internet connection; likely, the system can't connect to other sites, either. 7.4. FTP or Telnet Server Won't Allow Logins. This applies to server daemons that respond to clients, but don't allow logins. On new systems that have Pluggable Authentication Modules installed, look for a file named, "ftp," or "telnet," in the directory /etc/pam/ or /etc/pam.d/. If the corresponding authentication file doesn't exist, the instructions for configuring FTP and Telnet authentication and other PAM configuration, should be in /usr/doc/pam-version. If it's an FTP server on an older system, make sure that the account exists in /etc/passwd, especially "anonymous." This type of problem may also be caused a failure to resolve the host addresses properly, especially if using Reverse Address Resolution Protocol (RARP). The simple answer to this is to list all relevant host names and IP addresses in the /etc/hosts files on each machine. ( Refer to the example /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf files in: "How Do I Prevent sendmail from Pausing for Up to a Minute at Each Command?.") If the network has an internal DNS, make sure that each host can resolve network addresses using it. If the host machine doesn't respond to FTP or Telnet clients at all, then the server daemon is not installed correctly, or at all. Refer to the manual pages: inetd, inetd.conf, ftpd, and telnetd. 7.5. How Do I Keep Track of All My Bookmarks in Netscape? This probably applies to most other browsers, too. In the Preferences/Navigator menu, set your home page to Netscape's bookmarks.html file, which is located in the .netscape (with a leading period) subdirectory. For example, if your login name is "smith," set the home page to: file://home/smith/.netscape/bookmarks.html Setting up your personal home page like this will present you with a nicely formatted (albeit possibly long) page of bookmarks when Netscape starts. And the file is automatically updated whenever you add, delete, or visit a bookmarked site. 7.6. The Computer Has the Wrong Time. There are two clocks in your computer. The hardware (CMOS) clock runs even when the computer is turned off, and is used when the system starts up and by DOS (if you use DOS). The ordinary system time, shown and set by date, is maintained by the kernel while Linux is running. You can display the CMOS clock time, or set either clock from the other, with /sbin/clock (now called hwclock in many distributions). Refer to: man 8 clock or man 8 hwclock. There are various other programs that can correct either or both clocks for system drift or transfer time across the network. Some of them may already be installed on your system. Try looking for adjtimex (corrects for drift), Network Time Protocol clients like netdate, getdate, and xntp, or NTP client-server suite such as chrony. Refer to: "Where Can I Find Application XXX? (Was: Has Anyone Ported/Compiled/Written XXX for Linux?)." 7.7. Setuid Scripts Don't Seem to Work. That's right. This feature has been disabled in the Linux kernel on purpose, because setuid scripts are almost always a security hole. Sudo and SuidPerl can provide more security than setuid scripts or binaries, especially if execute permissions are
Linux-Misc Digest #90
Linux-Misc Digest #90, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 6 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 6 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:05:15 GMT removed.) To get the editor to work you may need type: $ TERM=console (for bash and ksh), or $ setenv TERM console for csh or tcsh. Some programs use /usr/lib/terminfo instead of /etc/termcap. For these programs you should upgrade your terminfo package, which is part of ncurses. The same is true for X terminal displays. If your distribution sets the TERM to something strange like xterm-24-color, you can simply reset it to a generic value from the command line: $ TERM="xterm"; export TERM 10.3. INET: Warning: old style ioctl... called! You are trying to use the old network configuration utilities. The new ones can be found on ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/Networking/PROGRAMS/NetTools/ (source only, I'm afraid). Note that they cannot be used just like the old-style programs. See the NET-2 HOWTO for instructions on how to set up the old-style networking programs correctly. Even better, see the NET-3 HOWTO and upgrade your networking software. 10.4. ld: unrecognized option '-m486' You have an old version of ld. Install a newer binutils package that contains an updated ld. Look on tsx-11.mit.edu in /pub/linux/packages/GCC/ for binutils-2.6.0.2.bin.tar.gz. 10.5. GCC Says, "Internal compiler error." If the fault is repeatable (i.e., it always happens at the same place in the same file--even after rebooting and trying again, using a stable kernel) you have discovered a bug in GCC. See the GCC Info documentation (type F1-i in Emacs, and select GCC from the menu) for details on how to report the error. Make sure you have the latest version, though. Note that this is probably not a Linux-specific problem. Unless you are compiling a program many other Linux users also compile, you should not post your bug report to any of the comp.os.linux groups. If the problem is not repeatable, you may be experiencing memory corruption. Refer to the answer: ("Make Says, "Error 139."") 10.6. Make Says, "Error 139." Your compiler (GCC) dumped core. You probably have a corrupted, buggy, or old version of GCC--get the latest release or EGCS. Alternatively, you may be running out of swap space. Refer to: ("My Machine Runs Very Slowly when I Run GCC / X / ...") If this doesn't fix the problem, you are probably having problems with memory or disk corruption. Check that the clock rate, wait states, and refresh timing for your SIMMS and cache are correct (hardware manuals are sometimes wrong, too). If so, you may have some marginal SIMMS, or a faulty motherboard or hard disk or controller. Linux is a very good memory tester--much better than MS-DOS based memory test programs. Reportedly, some clone x87 math coprocessors can cause problems. Try compiling a kernel with math emulation ("How Do I Upgrade/Recompile My Kernel?") no387 kernel command line flag on the LILO prompt to force the kernel to use math emulation, or it may be able to work and still use the '387, with the math emulation compiled in but mainly unused. More information about this problem is available on the Web at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/. 10.7. Shell-Init: Permission Denied when I Log In. Your root directory and all the directories up to your home directory must be readable and executable by everybody. See the manual page for chmod or a book on Unix for how to fix the problem. 10.8. No Utmp Entry. You Must Exec ... when Logging In. Your /var/run/utmp is screwed up. You should have /var/run/utmp in your /etc/rc.local or /etc/rc.d/*. See, ("I Have Screwed Up My System and Can't Log In to Fix It.") Note that the utmp may also be found in /var/adm/ or /etc/ on some older systems. 10.9. Warning--bdflush Not Running. Modern kernels use a better strategy for writing cached disk blocks. In addition to the kernel changes, this involves replacing the old update program which used to write everything every 30 seconds with a more subtle daemon (actually a pair), known as bdflush. Get bdflush-n.n.tar.gz from the same place as the kernel source code ("How Do I Upgrade/Recompile My Kernel?") and compile and install it. bdflush should be started before the usual boot-time file system checks. It will work fine with older kernels as well, so there's no need to keep the old update around. 10.10. Warning: obsolete routing request made. This is nothing to worry about. The message means that your version route is a little out of date, compared to the kernel. You can make the message go away by getting a new version of route from the same place as the kernel source code. ("How Do I Upgrade/Recompile My
Linux-Misc Digest #89
Linux-Misc Digest #89, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 5 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 5 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:04:51 GMT recent versions. Prior to version 8.7, sendmail required that the FQDN appear first in the /etc/hosts entry. Finally, FEATURE configuration macro options like nodns, always_add_domain, and nocanonify, control how sendmail interprets host names. [Chris Karakas] 8.9. How Do I Switch Virtual Consoles? How Do I Enable Them? In text mode, press the left Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 to select the consoles tty1 to tty12; Right Alt-F1 gives tty13 and so on. To switch out of X you must press Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc; Alt-F5 or whatever will switch back. However, If you have a non-PC compatible system, please see the note below. If you want to use a VC for ordinary login, it must be listed in /etc/inittab, which controls which terminals and virtual consoles have login prompts. The X Window System needs at least one free VC in order to start. [Note: The key sequence is actually Ctrl--Meta-- FN. On PC compatible systems, the right and left Alt keys are really synonymous with the keysymbols Meta_L and Meta_R. If the binding is different, you can determine what keys produce Meta_L and Meta_R with xkeycaps or a similar application.] [David Charlap] 8.10. How Do I Set the Time Zone? Change directory to /usr/lib/zoneinfo/. Get the time zone package if you don't have this directory. The source is available in ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/admin/time/. Then make a symbolic link named localtime pointing to one of the files in this directory (or a subdirectory), and one called posixrules pointing to localtime. For example: $ ln -sf US/Mountain localtime $ ln -sf localtime posixrules This change will take effect immediately--try date. If the system uses Red Hat-style configuration files, the respective time zone info files are /usr/share/zoneinfo and /etc/localtime. The manual pages for tzset or tzselect describe setting the time zone. Some programs recognize the "TZ" environment variable, but this is not POSIX-correct. You should also make sure that your Linux kernel clock is set to the correct GMT time. Type date -u and check that the correct UTC time is displayed. ("The Computer Has the Wrong Time.") 8.11. How Do I Get Dial-up PPP to Work? This information is mainly for people who do not have a wrapper utility like kppp or pppconfig, or are not able to get those utilities to work correctly. If you need to manually configure PPP to dial in to your ISP, you will need the following information: * The port that your modem is connected to: /dev/ttyS0-/dev/ttyS3, which correspond to COM1-COM4 under MS-DOS. * The phone number of your ISP's data connection. * The user name and password that your ISP gave you. * The IP addresses of the primary and possibly secondary Domain Name Service that you will use when dialing in to the ISP. This assumes that you will not be using a DNS that you installed on your system. When you have all of this information, make sure that the programs pppd and chat, at the very minimum, are installed correctly. In most current distributions, they are installed in the /usr/sbin/ directory, and you will need to be logged in as root to use them. In addition, the following programs are also useful for configuring network connections, determining network status, and diagnosing problems: /sbin/ifconfig, /sbin/route, /bin/ping, /usr/sbin/traceroute. These are the basic steps that you need to follow to configure PPP. You must be logged in as root. * Make sure that the serial port and modem are operating correctly. Using a program like minicomm or kermit, you should be able to send AT commands to the modem and receive the OK string in response from the modem. * Enter the primary and possibly secondary Domain Name Server IP addresses in the /etc/resolv.conf file, using dotted quad notation, with the nameserver label. For example: order hosts,bind nameserver 196.182.101.103 nameserver 196.182.101.104 The nameserver addresses in the example above are examples only. They don't correspond to actual network hosts. The first line, order hosts,bind, tells your networking software, when it resolves network domain addresses, to first look in the /etc/hosts file, and then use the bind service; i.e., the DNS servers, which are specified on the lines that begin with nameserver. * Locate the chat script that PPP will use to dial the modem and connect to your ISP. In many systems, this is either in the /etc/chatscripts or /etc/ppp directory, and will be called provider or
Linux-Misc Digest #86
Linux-Misc Digest #86, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 18:13:02 EST Contents: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 2 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Crossposted-To: news.answers,comp.answers Subject: Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 2 of 6) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:03:36 GMT There is a story about the features of the 2.4 series kernels at http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html. 3.2. Where Can I Get the HOWTO's and Other Documentation? Look in the following places, and the sites that mirror them. * http://www.linuxdoc.org/ * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/OS/Linux/doc/HOWTO/ * ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO/ * ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/ For a list of Linux FTP sites, refer to the answer for: "Where Can I Get Linux Material by FTP?" If you don't have access to FTP, try the FTP-by-mail servers: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A complete list of HOWTO's is available in the file HOWTO-INDEX at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html. The mini-HOWTO's are indexed at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/mini.html. A search engine at the Linux FAQ Home Page, http://www.mainmatter.com/, allows you to search LDP HOWTO's, the Linux FAQ, man pages, and Network Administrator's Guide. In addition, translations are available from ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/translations/ and mirrors worldwide. The HOWTO's and other documentation have been translated into the following languages: Chinese (Big5) (zh) Croatian (hr)French (fr) German (deHellenic (el)Indonesian (id) Italian (it) Japanese (ja)Korean (ko) Polish (pl) Slovenian (sl) Spanish (es) Swedish (sv) Turkish (tr) Additional documents are always in preparation. Please get in touch with the coordinators if you are interested in writing one. Contact and submission information is at http://www.linuxdoc.org/mailinfo.html. There is also a LDP HOWTO page at http://howto.tucows.org/. The Guide Series produced by the Linux Documentation Project is available from http://www.linuxdoc.org/. Please read them if you are new to Unix and Linux. The Linux Mobile Guide is an expanded version of the Linux-Laptop-HOWTO. The URL is: http://home.snafu.de/wehe/howtos.html. And, of course, a number of people have written documentation independently of the LDP: * Linux Administrators Security Guide, by Kurt Seifried. http://www.freek.com/lasg/. * Newbie's Linux Manual. http://www.linuxdoc.org/nlm/. * One-Page Linux Manual. http://www.powerup.com.au/~squadron/. * Rute Users Tutorial and Exposition. http://www.rute.sourceforge.net/. * Short beginners' manual for Linux. Also available in Dutch. http://www.stuwww.kub.nl/people/b.vannunen/linux-man.php3. * Virtual Frame buffer HOWTO, by Alex Buell. http://www.tahallah.demon.co.uk/programming/prog.html. * X11 TrueType Fonts, by Peter Kleiweg. http://www.let.rug.nl/~kleiweg/. Documentation for kernel developers is on-line: http://kernelbook.sourceforge.net/. To find out about Linux memory management, including performance tuning, see Rik van Riel's Web page at http://humbolt.geo.uu.nl/Linux-MM/. The Linux Consultants HOWTO has a directory of Linux consultants at http://www.linuxports.com/. Gary's Encyclopedia lists over 4,000 Linux related links. Its URL is http://members.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html. There is also a FAQ specifically for the Red Hat Linux distribution, at http://www.best.com/~aturner/RedHat-FAQ/faq_index.html. And the Home Page of this FAQ is http://www.mainmatter.com/. 3.3. Where Should I Look on the World Wide Web for Linux Stuff? In addition to the Linux Documentation Project Home Page: http://www.linuxdoc.org/, there are many pages that provide beginning and advanced information about Linux. These two pages provide a good starting point for general Linux information: Linux International's Home Page, at http://www.li.org/, and the Linux Online's Linux Home Page at http://www.linux.org/. Both of these pages provide links to other sites, information about general information, distributions, new software, documentation, and news. Documentation for kernel developers is on-line: http://kernelbook.sourceforge.net/. The tutorial, Unix is a Four Letter Word..., is located at http://www.linuxbox.com/~taylor/4ltrwrd/. It is a general introduction to Unix operating systems and is not Linux specific. Additionally, here is a certainly incomplete list of Web pages devoted to Linux: * AboutLinux.com: http://www.aboutlinux.com/. * Adventures in Linux Programming: http://members.xoom.com/rpragana/. * Dave Central Linux Software Archive: http://linux.davecentral.com/. * debianHELP http://www.debianhelp.org/. * Erlug Webzine
Linux-Misc Digest #91
Linux-Misc Digest #91, Volume #27Sun, 11 Feb 01 22:13:02 EST Contents: Telnet Screen Size (Ian Ellis) Re: Konqueror speed (Jerry Kreps) Re: writing hello world in linux (Floyd Davidson) Re: PPP dial spontaneously in middle of night? (Norman Madden) SANE troubles (Robert Schweikert) Re: wanna buy a $200 Linux computer? (steve) A7V onboard ata100 install (Rogue2000) Re: Soundcard Configuration (Jim Cochrane) Re: netscape lock file (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Newbie Question (Hugh Lawson) Re: Newbie Question (Jean-David Beyer) Re: Lock screen password? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Soundcard Configuration ("Kyle C. Smith") Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Noah Roberts) Re: xv_get_sel alike tools for Linux (* Tong *) Re: writing hello world in linux (John Hasler) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Noah Roberts) Re: The "which" command (Noah Roberts) Re: crash because SCSI device is off?? (Paul Lew) Re: IP Masquerade ? (Noah Roberts) Re: stupid mistake (Noah Roberts) Re: writing hello world in linux (Noah Roberts) Re: writing hello world in linux (Dowe Keller) freshmeat's appindex (* Tong *) From: Ian Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Telnet Screen Size Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:18:42 + Hi, I'm using my Linux box to Telnet to an ICL mainframe, via a VAX box. My porblem is that the telnet session only displays 24 lines, whilst the ICL mainframe uses 25 lines, so one of the lines scrolls off the screen (I can see it by movin the cursor half way up the screen, but that's a faff). Does anyone know how to get telnet to display 25 lines (eg. by changing TERM, termcap etc). Any assistance is appreciated. Ian -- From: Jerry Kreps [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.windows.x.kde Subject: Re: Konqueror speed Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:34:02 -0600 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have exactly the same problem. Konqueror take a lot longer to display pages than Netscape. The platform is IBM's AIX with the recently released 'Linux-Toolbox'. I don't want to go and recompile the stuuf myself, but would like to know if I should expect this or if something is wrong. Markus Konqueror runs very quickly for me. Faster than NS. I am running a P166 with 64MB and using SuSE 7.0 I stripped all of KDE1 and KDE2 and QT-1.4.x and Qt-2.x off, reinstalled Qt-2.2.3 with all graphics compiled in, and then installed KDE2 only. Runs very fast and only rarely does any Kapps crash on me. Konquer has never crashed. Neither has KMail or KNews (KNode). JLK -- "God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of people that these liberties are a gift of God? Thomas Jefferson - 1781 -- From: Floyd Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: writing hello world in linux Date: 11 Feb 2001 14:13:02 -0900 "Wlliam Bennet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Harlan Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never done c programing and I am only just learning linux so am a serious amateur. Buy the book 'The C Programming Language (2nd ed.)' by Brian W. Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie, and follow the instructions. This is the One True Text for C. Avoid this book if your a beginner, it's more a reference not a learning tool. It is in fact a reference book, but it is *the* reference book that should be obtained by every beginning C programmer. And, if said programmer happens to be particularly adept at learning C, it might be the closest thing to a tutorial ever needed. Others may also want to buy two very different tutorials, just to provide two way of looking at things... and universally good advice is to read comp.lang.c for a month or two, and then ask a few questions there. A tutorial is something you buy, use once, and throw away. A reference book you keep forever. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Norman Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.ppp Subject: Re: PPP dial spontaneously in middle of night? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:51:43 -0500 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Broadhead wrote: The other night I was reading in the other room and suddenly I heard my Redhat 7.0 box dial. (I have "demand" in the ppp options file). No one was logged into the computer, and none of the computers for which the Linux box runs IP Masqerading were turned on. In other words, no programs any person wsa suing could have caused it to dial. I ran over to run netstat, and there was a single https connection to an IP that resolved to some long redhat.com name. What program made this connection? I
Linux-Misc Digest #92
Linux-Misc Digest #92, Volume #27Mon, 12 Feb 01 02:13:03 EST Contents: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Mark Bratcher) Re: netscape lock file (Mark Bratcher) Difference between "su" and "su -" ? (Arctic Storm) Re: Difference between "su" and "su -" ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Difference between "su" and "su -" ? (E J) Re: help: setting up ips for dialing in (David Efflandt) Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Vladimir Florinski) Re: stupid mistake ("sandy") Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux ("Matt O'Toole") Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux ("Matt O'Toole") Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Vladimir Florinski) trouble ppp 2.3.11 Kernel 2.2.16 ("Rao Garimella") Linux Sucks... well not really ("Anurodh Pokharel") Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux (Carl Fink) Re: crash because SCSI device is off?? (Claus Atzenbeck) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher) Subject: Re: A Beginner Asks About Linux Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:11:25 GMT In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Noah Roberts wrote: Mark Bratcher wrote: In article 3a84aefe$[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Mandrake or Redhat? Which to get? Niether! Get Slackware or SuSESlackware preferably, but SuSE has rpmboth of the above mentioned distros are garbage (esp RH) Could you elaborate on why you believe RedHat is garbage? I'm not being critical, I really do want to know why you have that opinion. Well, just for an example of tipical RedHat. In the Unix Admin class at the college we split into two groups, one got to choose between SCO and RedHat, the other got stuck with whatever was left. Now SCO takes hours to install, for some reason disk access seems incredibly slow during the procedure. So when the other team got to choose the decided on RH. I am not sure if the ever DID get it installedwe got SCO installed in a day, had the user environment all configured and everything within 2.they where still trying to get it to complete the install a week later, kept freezing. I've installed RH (a few different versions) on several machines (x86 PCs of various types) without any problems. Had them installed within an hour or two. I don't know why yours froze up, or whether it is unusual or rare, but hasn't happened to me. I'm not sure I would judge it on the basis of this one particular class. Example 2: it is the only distro I know of that doesn't create a whatis DB during the install.thats just silly and it shows a lack of proffensionalism since the system is incomplete without it. OK, that's a fair comment. I have to admit I am unfamiliar with the "whatis DB" (probably since I've been using RH :-)). I'll look that up and find out why I might need it. So far, I haven't missed it. I don't know about binary compatability...what I do know is that RH has the messiest distro out there, and of course any based on it (ie. Mandrake) are also all fucked up. They are incredibly unstable since they base their system on bleeding edge Alpha software, the system is almost entirely unsuitable for anything. I'm not certain of the basis for this comment. Again, not being critical, but wondering if you know of many other examples besides perhaps the one you mentioned above. As I mentioned, I have not had any problems with RH distros. Not sure what you mean by "messy" or "all f**ked up" or unstable. My RH installations have always run very well and stable. I've upgraded kernels and utilities using standard source tar.gz files without any problems. Its just generally an ugly crappy system, Linux can be much better. This is a fairly qualitative statement. I assume you mean compared to, say, slackware (which you mention elsewhere). I've been running RedHat for a few versions now and find it to be easy to use, easy to configure, and there is lots of help availble for it on newsgroups since so many people use it. Well, I'll bet you chose to install one of the preset installsotherwise you spent a lot of time installing it.and your also lucky to have such a nice time of it. No I have never done the preset installs. Always done custom and never had any problems with them. Lucky? Perhaps. I don't think the statistical sample is large enough to run the Chi-Square test. :-) However, I will say with certainty that if you haven't tried Slackware then you have no idea how wonderful linux can be. You may be right there. I haven't tried Slackware, but all that I've read on this NG is making me very Slackware-curious. :-) Thanks for the thoughts on this. Mark Bratcher To reply, remove both underscores (_) from my email name === Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux! -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher) Subject: Re: netscape lock file Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:17:02 GMT In article