Re: Input for a FAQ
On Sep 4 Bruce Marshall was heard saying: -A long session on the phone the other night with my SO (who is now running -Linux with little experience) leads me back to the subject I once posted -here: - -A FAQ or document for total Linux newbies (but END USERS) - -From some of the questions that came up, I figure a FAQ might be the best way -to handle it (in HTML format). - -So I would like to ask the group for input on questions to be answered and -also if there is anyone who would like to colaborate on it. *** I'll try and think up some useful newbe questions. -It would be based on KDE and the very basics of Linux. Therefore it would *** I won't be of much help here as I'm using xfce. Zoran. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: jblinux - graphics boxes empty
On Friday 31 August 2001 21:47, Collins Richey wrote: Well, the developer returned my mail. Difficult to understand, but the problem with all my icons for Wide and the splash screen for xfce is: running X in color depth 16. Now I've switched to color depth 24 (Netscape will probably croak), and everything is much better. ooh, that's interesting. 24bit X is / was a total no-no for some time (as you probably knew) 24bit if implemented at all by the card - driver - author was almost always a kludge back to 16 bit. Is this generally speaking no longer true with Xfree 4++ ? I haven't bothered checking, preferring 32 bit which states explicitly it cannot / can be supported rather than silently kludged. This is a grey area for me and I'm not sure why your develeper would choose _that_ format, and why it makes any difference at all. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: assist with a configure/compile
On Saturday 01 September 2001 18:10, Keith Antoine wrote: I am keeping notes on all the things that I have success with that I need for working and display of DVD's and vcd's on linux, plus my photographic and card readers. When I get as far as I need i'll do a step x step. Must admit its getting quite long. I'll be one of the many to read it Kantoine as I've taken an interest in the webcam / usb / v4l side of Linux. I have both a logitech and a puretek and both of them show a crisper, more controllable live image than under the 'unmentionable os'. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Neededototot
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:55, Keith Antoine wrote: burns wrote: I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to concentrate on the screen with all this wind in my hair g. I am running very similar 1.2 gig Athlon 256mb DDR and Soltek MB 60 gig HD space. What this skiting about hair, in your case; What hair ?? You lost it there Skippy, it's an old Kanuck tradition that on those rare occaisons they have a success, they stand on a chair , open their trenchcoat.. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:45, Bill Campbell wrote: I've always found Compaq and HP to be a PITA to work with because lots of things are proprietary, require special drivers, and even use non-standard mounting hardware. Ditto. I've never considered either of these boxen, at any time, for a Linux install. Clearly others have had good experiences though. Point is, I just don't purchase these animals because of their propretary innards. HP would the only 'like minded' Company that would want to purchase Compaq (or vice versa). -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: German Linux site hackedotot
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 07:44, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: Might be, like you said, where you grew up. But. there is a whole big world out there, where you didnt grow up. But everyone that knows sports knows what soccer is, ;-) even us yanks that know what football really is. Huh? You mean you watch Aussie Rules too? 50 million Americans are baffled by this game each week. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: mapping commands or keyboard shortcuts to mouse events
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:19, Markus Feilner wrote: hello list, i have a mouse and a trackball at my system, as soon as you get this sorted, I'd like some details on trackball anything for the site below. thanks. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 18:18, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I have a Q but no A how to change time format from 24hour to 12hour in KDE2x Big Green Button - personalisation (aussie spelling) -Time Dates Tab, change time format with salt and pepper. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New SxS ?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/ TechNet/prodtechnol/iis/deploy/depovg/win2kcd.asp You need to leave on the \ at the end of the first line. Also, when pasting, linux or opera converted that space in front of TechNet to %20, which didn't help either. Anyway, its all about how and why people should switch from linux to microsoft for their server needs. As a heavy holder of MS stock, I say, great job! It reads as smoothly as those tobacco company articles about the statistical association between smoking and adverse health effects. And, knowing my IS people, will be quite effective. Of course, since we don't use any linux in our very large corporation, they might not even read them. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: jblinux - graphics boxes empty
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:48:29 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 31 August 2001 21:47, Collins Richey wrote: Well, the developer returned my mail. Difficult to understand, but the problem with all my icons for Wide and the splash screen for xfce is: running X in color depth 16. Now I've switched to color depth 24 (Netscape will probably croak), and everything is much better. ooh, that's interesting. 24bit X is / was a total no-no for some time (as you probably knew) 24bit if implemented at all by the card - driver - author was almost always a kludge back to 16 bit. Is this generally speaking no longer true with Xfree 4++ ? I haven't bothered checking, preferring 32 bit which states explicitly it cannot / can be supported rather than silently kludged. This is a grey area for me and I'm not sure why your develeper would choose _that_ format, and why it makes any difference at all. I really don't know, but it works. I'm on X4.1.0, and even Nutscrape makes no complaints in 24-bit mode. X won't support my card (Savage) in 32-bit mode. -- Collins Richey Denver Area jblinux 2.2 xfce sylpheed opera ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Personal firewall
What is your gateway address?
Also, This may be a bit cheesy, but what is the IP address that is shown when you have
your have your shields tested at www.grc.com?
Regards,
Wil McGilvery
Manager, Digital Media
Lynch Technologies Inc.
416-744-7191
1-888-622-3729
416-744-0406 FAX
www.lynchdigital.com
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Personal firewall
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 02:58 pm, Glenn Williams wrote:
Bruce:
Sorry - I guess I neglected to mention - as of last Thursday I am on
DSL - hot all the time. No dial-up or dial-on-demand.
Well, I think then that the ISP has you on a local network. I am pretty sure
that 10.0.0.x is one of those 'non-routable' addresses and therefore your box
can't be accessed.
Maybe someone else can give us a clue.
Anything else I should furnish?
Regards,
Glenn
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 12:03, you wrote:
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 01:42 pm, Glenn Williams wrote:
Hi, Bruce:
Busy morning - later getting back to you. Here's the output of
'ifconfig' (long form):
Well yes, but don't you dial up on the phone?? I would need the
ppp0 part of the ifconfig output. The 10.0.0.2 address must be
your local LAN address.
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:47:95:E1:B5
inet addr:10.0.0.2 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
^^^
inet6 addr: fe80::203:47ff:fe95:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
inet6 addr: fe80::3:4795:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:72619 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:8775 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:9553606 (9.1 Mb) TX bytes:1018790 (994.9 Kb)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xf000
Thanks.
Regards,
Glenn
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 09:56, you wrote:
On Monday 03 September 2001 10:32 am, Glenn Williams wrote:
Hi, Bruce:
I appreciate the offer. However, my ISP uses a DHCP server, so
I dunno how we could do that using my IP address. Cann one use
the current dynamic address for that purpose?
Yes... you would:
1) Connect up and stay connected.
2) Do an ifconfig to find your current IP address.
3) Send me email with same.
4) I run the scan.
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Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Neededototot
OMG, I think I just hurt myself laughing. stayler On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:09:31 +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:55, Keith Antoine wrote: burns wrote: I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to concentrate on the screen with all this wind in my hair g. I am running very similar 1.2 gig Athlon 256mb DDR and Soltek MB 60 gig HD space. What this skiting about hair, in your case; What hair ?? You lost it there Skippy, it's an old Kanuck tradition that on those rare occaisons they have a success, they stand on a chair , open their trenchcoat.. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 02:43 am, Zoki (News) wrote: On Sep 4 Bruce Marshall was heard saying: -A long session on the phone the other night with my SO (who is now running -Linux with little experience) leads me back to the subject I once posted -here: - -A FAQ or document for total Linux newbies (but END USERS) - -From some of the questions that came up, I figure a FAQ might be the best way -to handle it (in HTML format). - -So I would like to ask the group for input on questions to be answered and -also if there is anyone who would like to colaborate on it. *** I'll try and think up some useful newbe questions. -It would be based on KDE and the very basics of Linux. Therefore it would *** I won't be of much help here as I'm using xfce. Well, submit them anyway I made up a list of 26 questions last night and probably half of them do not deal with any WM 1) How do I get a file off a floppy disk? (must talk about unmounting as well) 2) How do I save a file to a floppy? (It's not the A: drive anymore) 3) What do I do if my machine seems to be stuck? 4) How to I shut off my machine? (from the logoff point) 5) How do I send email? (assumes Kmail is all set to go) 6) How do I adjust the sound volume (somewhat distro dependant) 7) How do I use a CD? 8) How to I write a letter? (very basic StarOffice or Koffice) 9) How do I print a file? 10) What is a virtual desktop? 11) What is a virtual console? A 'window' console? 12) How do I start up my machine? 13) How do I connect to the Internet? (many ways) 14) How do I enter a console command? 15) What is 'root' and how do I get there? 16) What is an IP address and how do I find mine? 17) How do I find out if a program is running? 18) How do I kill a program? 19) How do I tell how full my HD is? 20) Where are the games? 21) How do I move a window to another virtual desktop? 22) How do I close a window? 23) How do I add an icon to my desktop? The task tray? 24) How do I switch between virtual desktops? 25) What are shortcuts for moving between windows? 26) What browsers are available? 27) How do I customize my desktop? Some of the above sound like I'm going more technical than I said I was going to go but the information (like root commands and IP address) may be necessary for someone else to provide help and maintenance. At least that's the case for me where I am 480 miles from the person I am trying to assist. Therefore, any questions that provide methods for users to glean information for someone else would be ok. (such as use of top to find a runaway program) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 08:48 + ++ When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: German Linux site hackedotot
Ok, Where in the US can you watch Aussie Rules? I actually like that game stayler On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:18:51 +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 07:44, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: Might be, like you said, where you grew up. But. there is a whole big world out there, where you didnt grow up. But everyone that knows sports knows what soccer is, ;-) even us yanks that know what football really is. Huh? You mean you watch Aussie Rules too? 50 million Americans are baffled by this game each week. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
need clarification
If I install one of the growing number of email scanners (say amavis), the program will scan the incoming mail *before* anything in /etc/mail/aliases is fired. yes? that's my understanding of what I'm reading, but I wanted to be sure. thanks! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ panic(bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/kernel/panic.c ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ATI Xpert 128
Has anyone used the PCI version of the ATI Xpert 128 for Linux/XFree96? Does it work? Does it work well? Anomalies noted??? Oh, COL 3.1, AMD 900 Mhz, 512M RAM system. Thanks in advance. Steve ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] ELSA Gladiac 511 (no tv-out)
Does anyone of you use a ELSA Gladiac 511 (no tv-out)? Could you scan me a photo if your card? I suspected that I bought a Gladiac 311 re-labelled and re-packaged as as a 511 (Geforce2 MX200 vs MX400). 3dmark2001 gave me a 1500 score only on a P3-933 system, rather than the usual 2400 found in many webpages. I just want to be sure... thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 05:21 am, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 18:18, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I have a Q but no A how to change time format from 24hour to 12hour in KDE2x Big Green Button - personalisation (aussie spelling) -Time Dates Tab, change time format with salt and pepper. Could you expand on the 'salt and pepper' issue? (or did I miss something) I just tried to find the KDE help on the Time Dates tab and decided that the 'HelpCenter' is totally worthless. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 09:43 + ++ We hold these truths to be self evident: all men could be cremated equal. - Vern Parlow ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
Hi, Joel: Thanks for the firewall tutorial. I'm sure it will be useful, once I've digested all the information in it. I'm grateful to you for taking the time to send this to me. I have some books on TCP/IP and one which specifically covers firewalls and Internet security, but they are obsolete - written in the mid-90s when I was using TCP/IP in amateur packet radio networks. I'm using the SuSE 7.2 Pro personal firewall which is non-configurable. It's either enabled or disabled, and that's about it. However, there's a SuSE Firewall that ships with this distro, and it is *very* configurable. So I will examine that with deeper scrutiny. I'll also check amazon.com for what books are available on-line about firewalls and security. Thanks again for the advice and information. 73 de Glenn On Tuesday 04 September 2001 18:25, you wrote: DENY tcp l- 0xFF 0x00 eth1 0.0.0.0/0 24.182.146.18 * - 1:1023 rule protocol log Who knows NIC any ip my ip from any port to your ports Translation: Deny tcp packets, logging it, Huh??, to my eth1 from any ip on the planet to the ip address of the NIC of my router (which connects to the internet) from any port to my ports 1 to 1023. ip's are in dot quad format with a netmask if needed. 0.0.0.0. is host 0.0.0.0 but 0.0.0.0/0 is any ip. 127.0.0.0/24 is the local host. Firewalls are simple once you have the few rules figured out. Here is a simple rule from my firewall. It denies all requests from any host to my internet facing NIC to access the ports from 1 to 1023 (These are the privileged ports to which various services, like ftp, telnet, printing, and others listen for requests for services. You likely didn't know that port 515 (port for printing local or network files) is ripe for exploitation. You are at a crucial stage. If you don't learn this simple stuff, you will be like those poor souls in Shakespeare, who, not catching the tide at its flood, will wallow in the shallows, etc., at least as far as security. For your own good, and for the good of your security, firewalls are way too important to leave to magic security scripts. You should know which other ports you have to protect, like 6000 (your X server) and make sure to prevent unwanted people from attaching to such services. I just edit my firewall using vi. It is so simple that way. ipchains-save file Edit the file ipchains -F; cat file | ipchains-restore -f Piece of cake. Buy a book or read about firewalls. You have been warned. In addition, if you want to arrange ipmasq or use nonstandard ports for services (Say, to disguise your web page from your ISP which bans such things), knowing about firewalls is essential. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
Glenn Williams wrote: snip grc.com was not much help. First of all, I had to switch to windoze and a different firewall. They report my IP address as 10.0.0.2, and then gave me a boilerplate blurb about how IETF in their wisdom set aside a large block of addresses for internal network use (which was rather astute, and all very true, of course). Thanks. snip IIRC, you downloaded and ran IP_agent. That does require windows to run, it's a windows program. grc.com offers a Shields Up scan that tells you you external IP address, the IP that the Internet sees. I just navigated to the shields up page from RedHat, https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2, running the scan is not OS-specific. On that screen, just navigate down past the Free IP Agent BS and click on the button for Test My Shields!. There's also a button there for a minimal Port scan. No download of any software should be required. HTH, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Another great article by D.E.P.
Here's another great article by dep. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3751/1/ I've helped 2 of my friends install Caldera eD2.4. One is using it on a sporadic basis, just testing the waters, not doing anything critical yet. He's hooked on Shisen-Sho though. And the other claims he doesn't have the time to learn it. Another of my friends wants to try a dual-boot on his machine when he has to format/re-install windows next time. Most of the people that I know know that I run a Linux distro. I've had them ask plenty of questions about it. I've tried to answer them to the best of my ability. I've only been running eD2.4 since April 2000 and I've seen Linux grow by leaps and bounds. I tell most people that if Linux doesn't do what you want now, wait 6 months and it probably will(unless you are a programmer and want to code it yourself). Jim -- 9:42am up 5 days, 16:42, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.28, 0.33 Running Caldera eD2.4 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 21:30 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: I'm using the SuSE 7.2 Pro personal firewall which is non-configurable. It's either enabled or disabled, and that's about it. However, there's a SuSE Firewall that ships with this distro, and it is *very* configurable. So I will examine that with deeper scrutiny. Are you talking about SuSEfirewall2 ?? It seems pretty good. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 10:57 + ++ All the world's a stage and the people on it are poorly rehearsed. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:56 am, Jim Conner wrote: Here's another great article by dep. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3751/1/ I've helped 2 of my friends install Caldera eD2.4. One is using it on a sporadic basis, just testing the waters, not doing anything critical yet. He's hooked on Shisen-Sho though. And the other claims he doesn't have the time to learn it. Another of my friends wants to try a dual-boot on his machine when he has to format/re-install windows next time. Most of the people that I know know that I run a Linux distro. I've had them ask plenty of questions about it. I've tried to answer them to the best of my ability. I've only been running eD2.4 since April 2000 and I've seen Linux grow by leaps and bounds. I tell most people that if Linux doesn't do what you want now, wait 6 months and it probably will(unless you are a programmer and want to code it yourself). Jim Any chance of making a list of those questions? I'm making a totally newbie FAQ of the simple questions people usually want answered. End user stuff. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 11:13 + ++ Real women don't have hot flashes, they have power surges. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
I've proposed something like this to a couple of KDE mailing lists. While it got warm kudos for the idea, getting it implemented was a problem. I proposed that it become a section in the KHelpcenter. Titled: How do I? This would have the 27 questions and others with instructions in plain english(or other languages) and pretty screen shots as to how a very new user can accomplish a given task. I think this would be a great addition to KDE. Unfortunately my knowledge of how to implement this is lacking in the necessary skills. Here are some other questions that I've thought of and have had posed to me by new users. How do I change my background? How do I change my screensaver? How do I add/remove/move icons on the bottom panel(Kicker)? How do I find a file? How do I import/install a new theme? Hope this helps. I hope it can at least be a new addition to the SxS. Some of this stuff will be KDE/Gnome/Other specific. Therefore I think that there should be primary sections in there for each Desktop/WM. IMHO, the organization should be as such: SxS Index How Do I? (and other FAQs) KDE 1.x How do I? #1 How do I? #2 etc. KDE 2.x same as above Gnome(different ones if needed for each wm used) XFCE Enlightenment These will be primarily used for KDE 2.x and Gnome since they are the primary desktops used by new users. As you can see these questions will not contain anything that is currently in the SxS. These questions will be targeted for a very new user of any Linux distro. Granted instead of a SxS, I would like to see it integrated into the KHelpcenter where it would do the most good. If anyone wants to take my idea and start coding the project, feel free. I'm sure that the same could be done for Gnome and others. Jim On Wednesday September 05, 2001 7:49 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: snip Well, submit them anyway I made up a list of 26 questions last night and probably half of them do not deal with any WM 1) How do I get a file off a floppy disk? (must talk about unmounting as well) 2) How do I save a file to a floppy? (It's not the A: drive anymore) 3) What do I do if my machine seems to be stuck? 4) How to I shut off my machine? (from the logoff point) 5) How do I send email? (assumes Kmail is all set to go) 6) How do I adjust the sound volume (somewhat distro dependant) 7) How do I use a CD? 8) How to I write a letter? (very basic StarOffice or Koffice) 9) How do I print a file? 10) What is a virtual desktop? 11) What is a virtual console? A 'window' console? 12) How do I start up my machine? 13) How do I connect to the Internet? (many ways) 14) How do I enter a console command? 15) What is 'root' and how do I get there? 16) What is an IP address and how do I find mine? 17) How do I find out if a program is running? 18) How do I kill a program? 19) How do I tell how full my HD is? 20) Where are the games? 21) How do I move a window to another virtual desktop? 22) How do I close a window? 23) How do I add an icon to my desktop? The task tray? 24) How do I switch between virtual desktops? 25) What are shortcuts for moving between windows? 26) What browsers are available? 27) How do I customize my desktop? Some of the above sound like I'm going more technical than I said I was going to go but the information (like root commands and IP address) may be necessary for someone else to provide help and maintenance. At least that's the case for me where I am 480 miles from the person I am trying to assist. Therefore, any questions that provide methods for users to glean information for someone else would be ok. (such as use of top to find a runaway program) -- 9:42am up 5 days, 16:42, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.28, 0.33 Running Caldera eD2.4 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
Thanks, Tim: Obviously I did not read the info on the grc site carefully. I'll give that a try. Regards, Glenn On Wednesday 05 September 2001 08:57, you wrote: Glenn Williams wrote: snip grc.com was not much help. First of all, I had to switch to windoze and a different firewall. They report my IP address as 10.0.0.2, and then gave me a boilerplate blurb about how IETF in their wisdom set aside a large block of addresses for internal network use (which was rather astute, and all very true, of course). Thanks. snip IIRC, you downloaded and ran IP_agent. That does require windows to run, it's a windows program. grc.com offers a Shields Up scan that tells you you external IP address, the IP that the Internet sees. I just navigated to the shields up page from RedHat, https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2, running the scan is not OS-specific. On that screen, just navigate down past the Free IP Agent BS and click on the button for Test My Shields!. There's also a button there for a minimal Port scan. No download of any software should be required. HTH, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Highly respected OpenBSD, OpenSSH programmer censorswebsite, cites DMCA
-- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... - Begin Forwarded message - Dug Song is a highly respected OpenBSD, OpenSSH programmer, the author of Dsniff and numerous security papers including a common vulnerability in many firewall applications and servers. He has censored his own website, citing the DMCA: http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/ At this time it is not clear whether the site was taken down under pressure from corporations or simply attempting to express feelings about the DMCA and possibly start a trend whereby security researchers withhold their own research because they are at risk under the DMCA. Many people outside of the security industry do not fully understand that independent security research by people like Dug Song often find security holes, vulnerabilities and are the driving force toward stronger software and security practices within corporations. They are the watch dogs that ensure independent security testing (often, if not always) without compensation and simply for the challenge and to promote safer, stronger software. ___ http://www.anti-dmca.org DMCA_discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.microshaft.org/mailman/listinfo/dmca_discuss - End forwarded message -
Re: New SxS ?
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 06:56, Rick Sivernell babbled: Bad O, high price and the privilege to beta test all in one package. Oh, I forgot, raw sockets to allow the scripot kiddies access. What a deal. it gets better than that.. those of us who actually did beta test the damn thing got a *time-limited* final version. we still have to go out and purchase the fscking thing! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ printk(Entering UltraSMPenguin Mode...\n); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ATI Xpert 128
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:17, Steve Jardine babbled: Has anyone used the PCI version of the ATI Xpert 128 for Linux/XFree96? Does it work? Does it work well? Anomalies noted??? Oh, COL 3.1, AMD 900 Mhz, 512M RAM system. Thanks in advance. I used to run an XPERT98 PCI with no issues. I *think* it's the same chipset -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ /* Identify the flock of penguins. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/alpha/kernel/setup.c ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] mounting and formating a second Hdd (hdb)
Matt: Could this be due to an older BIOS? What does Windows/DOS fdisk report? What does Linux fdisk or cfdisk report? I confess I have not followed the thread so I amy be way off the target here. Regards, Glenn On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:29, you wrote: Ahhh spoke to soon... I have seem to have a problem the disk size is 18G however when I run fdisk it seems to only see 130 cylinders which relates to 1044244+ blocks. However there are 4 partitions on the disk 2 x 5G and 3 x 1G all formatted under Windows98. If I fdisk the disk under linux SuSE7.2 I can only create a 1G partition. Any ideas ? Regards Matt Matt wrote: Wow thats great. Question formatting.. mke2fs -cv /dev/hdb1 formats to e2fs. How do you format to vfat ? Regards Matt -Original Message- From: Jostein Berntsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:10 PM To: Matt; suse-linux-e Subject: RE: [SLE] mounting and formating a second Hdd (hdb) Hi, Here is a short and concise explantion: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue38/cooper.html Jostein = Original Message From Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hi, I have a removable hdd it is seen by boot but I am unable to mount it. mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /hdd2 wrong or bad block device I think was the returning error Question How do I mount it and always mount it when I boot up I think I have to alter the /etc/fstab file. Also I would like to reformat one partition on the drive as linux (it has 3 partitions all vfat at present). Also is there a control center command or tool for this ? Step by step instructions please. Regards Matt -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 11:28 am, Glenn Williams wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 08:58, you wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 21:30 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: I'm using the SuSE 7.2 Pro personal firewall which is non-configurable. It's either enabled or disabled, and that's about it. However, there's a SuSE Firewall that ships with this distro, and it is *very* configurable. So I will examine that with deeper scrutiny. Are you talking about SuSEfirewall2 ?? It seems pretty good. Yep, that's the one. SuSE ships two firewalls - personal firewall which I'm using now, and the configurable SuSEFirewall, which I will probably switch to in the future when I am somewhat more knowledgeable, i.e. 5 or 10 years. Firewall2 is on a special site. It is different than SuSEfirewall (don't have the site handy) 73 de Glenn -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 11:51 + ++ Mind like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
If you are referring to questions once a new user looks at a Linux distro for the first time(or tenth time), please see my post in the FAQ thread. If you are wanting questions about people that are curious about linux, then here are some with some of my answers. Can Linux run program XYZ? This is where I lead the discussion to the programs functionality rather than the program's name. I tell them about program ABC in linux that can do the same thing in much the same way, unless the program has been ported over to linux. Can I keep Windows? Will it interfere or otherwise mess up my Windows install? Most people that want to test the waters when it comes to linux, still want to have a working and fully functional copy of Windows. You just need to explain dual-booting and partitioning in very simplistic terms. Only recommend Win4Lin or VMWare if you are positive that all their windows software will work in that environment. Will my (insert hardware here) work with linux as well as it does in Windows? Unless you know for sure, do some research and find out. Before they install any linux distro, make sure that their sound card, video card, modem and printer are compatible. Nothing is more frustrating to a new user to be told after the install that they can't get out on to the internet or hear any sounds unless they buy a new modem and sound card. Tell them first that their winmodem and integrated sound isn't supported and they need to upgrade to be able to fully use linux. Is linux really more secure than Windows? I tell them that any OS is only as secure as the person Admining it. You can install any Linux distro, turn on every daemon and service, not run a firewall, and not update any security patches and you will be rooted in a short time. If you don't run any service or daemon, keep up on security patches, and run a tight firewall, the chance of being rooted are slim. I'm reminded of the article that dep wrote saying that connecting any OS to the internet comes with a certian responsibility to make sure that it's secure. I'm sure that there are other questions, if I think of more, I'll e-mail them to you. Jim On Wednesday September 05, 2001 10:14 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: snip Any chance of making a list of those questions? I'm making a totally newbie FAQ of the simple questions people usually want answered. End user stuff. -- 9:42am up 5 days, 16:42, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.28, 0.33 Running Caldera eD2.4 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: German Linux site hackedotot
I love it. The rules seem designed just to keep the level of injury a bit above death and to keep it from becoming a total free for all. Sportswise those guys have to be the toughest there is. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:48, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 07:44, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: Might be, like you said, where you grew up. But. there is a whole big world out there, where you didnt grow up. But everyone that knows sports knows what soccer is, ;-) even us yanks that know what football really is. Huh? You mean you watch Aussie Rules too? 50 million Americans are baffled by this game each week. -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:22 am, Jim Conner wrote: I've proposed something like this to a couple of KDE mailing lists. While it got warm kudos for the idea, getting it implemented was a problem. I proposed that it become a section in the KHelpcenter. Titled: How do I? This would have the 27 questions and others with instructions in plain english(or other languages) and pretty screen shots as to how a very new user can accomplish a given task. I think this would be a great addition to KDE. Unfortunately my knowledge of how to implement this is lacking in the necessary skills. Here are some other questions that I've thought of and have had posed to me by new users. How do I change my background? How do I change my screensaver? How do I add/remove/move icons on the bottom panel(Kicker)? How do I find a file? How do I import/install a new theme? Hope this helps. I hope it can at least be a new addition to the SxS. Some of this stuff will be KDE/Gnome/Other specific. Therefore I think that there should be primary sections in there for each Desktop/WM. IMHO, the organization should be as such: SxS Index How Do I? (and other FAQs) KDE 1.x How do I? #1 How do I? #2 etc. KDE 2.x same as above Gnome(different ones if needed for each wm used) XFCE Enlightenment These will be primarily used for KDE 2.x and Gnome since they are the primary desktops used by new users. As you can see these questions will not contain anything that is currently in the SxS. These questions will be targeted for a very new user of any Linux distro. Granted instead of a SxS, I would like to see it integrated into the KHelpcenter where it would do the most good. If anyone wants to take my idea and start coding the project, feel free. I'm sure that the same could be done for Gnome and others. Jim On Wednesday September 05, 2001 7:49 am, Bruce Marshall wrote: snip Well, submit them anyway I made up a list of 26 questions last night and probably half of them do not deal with any WM 1) How do I get a file off a floppy disk? (must talk about unmounting as well) 2) How do I save a file to a floppy? (It's not the A: drive anymore) 3) What do I do if my machine seems to be stuck? 4) How to I shut off my machine? (from the logoff point) 5) How do I send email? (assumes Kmail is all set to go) 6) How do I adjust the sound volume (somewhat distro dependant) 7) How do I use a CD? 8) How to I write a letter? (very basic StarOffice or Koffice) 9) How do I print a file? 10) What is a virtual desktop? 11) What is a virtual console? A 'window' console? 12) How do I start up my machine? 13) How do I connect to the Internet? (many ways) 14) How do I enter a console command? 15) What is 'root' and how do I get there? 16) What is an IP address and how do I find mine? 17) How do I find out if a program is running? 18) How do I kill a program? 19) How do I tell how full my HD is? 20) Where are the games? 21) How do I move a window to another virtual desktop? 22) How do I close a window? 23) How do I add an icon to my desktop? The task tray? 24) How do I switch between virtual desktops? 25) What are shortcuts for moving between windows? 26) What browsers are available? 27) How do I customize my desktop? Some of the above sound like I'm going more technical than I said I was going to go but the information (like root commands and IP address) may be necessary for someone else to provide help and maintenance. At least that's the case for me where I am 480 miles from the person I am trying to assist. Therefore, any questions that provide methods for users to glean information for someone else would be ok. (such as use of top to find a runaway program) Good questions and commentsAlthough I'm planning on it being somewhat KDE specific (for GUI stuff) I think the best thing to come out of this will be the list of questions.Then, hopefully, someone could take those questions and with changing about 25% or less of the document, come up with something for Gnome or any other WM. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 12:17 + ++ I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: UNIX TIP: SEPT 9TH DATE UPDATE
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: UNIX TIP: SEPT 9TH DATE UPDATE Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 03:10:55 -0700 From: UGU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= UNIX GURU UNIVERSE UNIX911.com UNIX HOT TIP Unix Tip 1709 - September 5, 2001 http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.today =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SEPT 9TH DATE UPDATE While this statement is from IBM, Y2K patches and updates on your flavor of Unix should have been fixed by now. If you feel you are at risk you may want to check with the software vendors that you deal with. ### BEGIN IBM MESSAGE As is well known, UNIX time is kept internally in seconds, counting upward from January 1st, 1970. This number hit 1 million (1,000,000) in March of 1973, and will hit one billion (1,000,000,000) on Sun Sep 9 01:46:39 2001 UTC This change, from a number which can be represented in 9 decimal digits to a 10-digit number, is not expected to cause any problems for UNIX systems. The reason is that, excepting for a very limited number of uses, this value is not stored as decimal digits. Instead, it is stored as an integer value (a 32-bit binary variable) which can be used safely until the year 2038. The uses in UNIX of a decimal format for the seconds time value are primarily in portable file formats, such as tar, cpio, and ar. These formats have always supported at least eleven decimal (or octal in some cases) digits, easily handling UNIX's one-billionth birthday. . There are no known problems in any version of AIX with this issue. . It is entirely possible that some user applications may be storing or displaying the seconds time as character-based digits rather than as a binary value. If so, and the field width used to store this value is limited to nine places, errors will result. IBM recommends immediate correction of such software. In practice, however, Year 2000 testing showed most applications storing time this way already understood that the number of seconds could exceed two billion and had coded accordingly. . We do not anticipate that this is going to be a problem, excepting for a very limited set of erroneously coded user applications. . . Mark Brown Senior Technical Staff Member, AIX System Architecture -- Thanks go out to Gene Adams for contacting IBM. -- To Subscribe:http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.subscribe To Unsubscribe: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.unsubscribe To Submit A Tip: http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.today == DISCLAIMER: All UNIX HOT TIPS ARE OWNED BY THE UNIX GURU UNIVERSE AND ARE NOT TO BE SOLD, PRINTED OR USED WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE UNIX GURU UNIVERSE. ALL TIPS ARE USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. UGU ADVISES THAT ALL TIPS BE TESTED IN A NON-PRODUCTION DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT FIRST. Unix Guru Universe - www.ugu.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Copyright 1994-1998 == --- -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
In my KDE its under small green buttonsystem and there is no place to alter the format. mandrake 7.2, KDE 2.0 guess it must be time to think about upgrading. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:21, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 18:18, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I have a Q but no A how to change time format from 24hour to 12hour in KDE2x Big Green Button - personalisation (aussie spelling) -Time Dates Tab, change time format with salt and pepper. -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 11:30 am, Glenn Williams wrote: Thanks, Tim: Obviously I did not read the info on the grc site carefully. I'll give that a try. Regards, Glenn Here's your NMAP scan: Starting nmap V. 2.53 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) RTTVAR has grown to over 2.3 seconds, decreasing to 2.0 Interesting ports on (66.55.21.94): (The 1522 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) Port State Service 23/tcp opentelnet Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2228 seconds One port open... and just the port you don't want open. And here's what I got when I tried to telnet to it: bmarsh@linux1:~ telnet xxx.xx.21.94 Trying xxx.xx.21.94... Connected to xxx.xx.21.94. Escape character is '^]'. User Access Verification Password:* Password:** Password: Didn't ask for a userid so maybe this is your router responding and it just needs a password. In any event, looks like your pretty well protected. ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 12:20 + ++ Murphy's Eighth Corollary: It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:56:56 -0500 Jim Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: Here's another great article by dep. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3751/1/ I agree, it's a very well done article. No surprise there! I've helped 2 of my friends install Caldera eD2.4. One is using it on a sporadic basis, just testing the waters, not doing anything critical yet. He's hooked on Shisen-Sho though. And the other claims he doesn't have the time to learn it. Another of my friends wants to try a dual-boot on his machine when he has to format/re-install windows next time. Most of the people that I know know that I run a Linux distro. I've had them ask plenty of questions about it. I've tried to answer them to the best of my ability. I've only been running eD2.4 since April 2000 and I've seen Linux grow by leaps and bounds. I tell most people that if Linux doesn't do what you want now, wait 6 months and it probably will(unless you are a programmer and want to code it yourself). A few months ago, my father-in-law (aged 76) purchased his first computer. He had never really used one and thus was/is a TOTAL newbie. He and my sister-in-law got together and decided to buy from Dell. Not bad, but I cautioned tham to refuse ME (get 98 instead), refuse the MSN deal, and insist on a real modem. Well they followed non of these suggestions, and now I'm stuck helping him with his worthless OS and even more hideous ISP (MSN.com). The more I think about it though, the more I wish I had just installed a linux distro on the damn thing and been done with it. He was starting from *0* knowledge anyway. why not teach him linux (purely as a user at first - I would have retained root privileges for myself, until he was able to assume that responsibility). From a pure user perspective, IMHO opinion, linux is at least as easy (perhaps easier) to learn as windoze. And without the M$ _pre-conditoining_ I believe it's probably also easier for the user to learn how the system actually operates. My bride (or over 20 years ;o) ) never really used a computer until she took a position as a teachers' assistant at a local elementary school. She learned to e-mail on their imacs and execute some other simple computer tasks. At home she now uses linux to write things, browse the web and manage her e-mail. One day, my older son was trying to show her how to do such things in win98. Ultimately she just became exasperated and declared, Get me out of here and boot linux please. I just don't get windows!! I took her to dinner hehehe Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP to buy Compaq?!?
I use them for our frontdesk software. Last batch I bought, even though I was assured they had W98se came with ME. I wiped out ME and installed SEwhat a chore. Took me half a day to get them running right. But their business rated machines are very reliable. Have not tried to put linny on them though. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:45, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:45, Bill Campbell wrote: I've always found Compaq and HP to be a PITA to work with because lots of things are proprietary, require special drivers, and even use non-standard mounting hardware. Ditto. I've never considered either of these boxen, at any time, for a Linux install. Clearly others have had good experiences though. Point is, I just don't purchase these animals because of their propretary innards. HP would the only 'like minded' Company that would want to purchase Compaq (or vice versa). -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Input for a FAQ
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:17 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: In my KDE its under small green buttonsystem and there is no place to alter the format. mandrake 7.2, KDE 2.0 guess it must be time to think about upgrading. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:21, Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 18:18, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: I have a Q but no A how to change time format from 24hour to 12hour in KDE2x Big Green Button - personalisation (aussie spelling) -Time Dates Tab, change time format with salt and pepper. How about? Big Green Button - personalisation (aussie spelling) - Country Language -- Time Dates Tab, ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 12:40 + ++ Many are cold, but few are frozen. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
Bruce: Thanks for the scan and analysis. I found a couple of my old books on TCP/IP (published in '91 and '92 respectively), but could not find the one called 'Internet Security and Firewalls' so I will be browsing amazon.com for something along those lines. If anyone has a favorite title or recommendation, I'd like to hear it while I'm in a browsing mode. Best regards, Glenn On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:23, you wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 11:30 am, Glenn Williams wrote: Thanks, Tim: Obviously I did not read the info on the grc site carefully. I'll give that a try. Regards, Glenn Here's your NMAP scan: Starting nmap V. 2.53 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) RTTVAR has grown to over 2.3 seconds, decreasing to 2.0 Interesting ports on (66.55.21.94): (The 1522 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) Port State Service 23/tcp opentelnet Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2228 seconds One port open... and just the port you don't want open. And here's what I got when I tried to telnet to it: bmarsh@linux1:~ telnet xxx.xx.21.94 Trying xxx.xx.21.94... Connected to xxx.xx.21.94. Escape character is '^]'. User Access Verification Password:* Password:** Password: Didn't ask for a userid so maybe this is your router responding and it just needs a password. In any event, looks like your pretty well protected. + + + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/05/01 12:20 + + + Murphy's Eighth Corollary: It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: German Linux site hackedotot
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Kurt Wall wrote: Mike Andrew wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 07:44, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: Might be, like you said, where you grew up. But. there is a whole big world out there, where you didnt grow up. But everyone that knows sports knows what soccer is, ;-) even us yanks that know what football really is. Huh? You mean you watch Aussie Rules too? 50 million Americans are baffled by this game each week. And well we should be. Looks like a gang rape with a balloon, brazenly called a football, thrown in for good measure. And a guy in an ice-cream vendor's suit who gets to throw his arms up every time there's a goal. -- Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Nobody wants to be called common people, especially common people.'' Will Rogers ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Neededototot
Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:55, Keith Antoine wrote: burns wrote: I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to concentrate on the screen with all this wind in my hair g. I am running very similar 1.2 gig Athlon 256mb DDR and Soltek MB 60 gig HD space. What this skiting about hair, in your case; What hair ?? You lost it there Skippy, it's an old Kanuck tradition that on those rare occaisons they have a success, they stand on a chair , open their trenchcoat.. ROFLMAO /me wipes tears of laughter from eyes -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kde 2.2 on COL LTP
We botht have one of the Gforce M200 cards which essentially are Nvidia chipset TNT2 agp. Tony Alfrey wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 05:31 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: snip It would certainly seem to be a graphics card problems, but I have never trusted any built in cards and always used an add-in card, since I had a problem moons ago with a built in. What kind of card do you have? I have a friend, yes I can boast at least one, who has a similar built rig and is into multimedia and he had similar problems with Cladera so installed Mandrake. snip What kind of card does your friend have (if you know?) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT MSDOS Rescue Neededototot
Ah! Shades of FLASH Gordon; but really Mike wouldn't he be more of a laughing stock, such a big fuss over such a little thing ?? Mike Andrew wrote: On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:55, Keith Antoine wrote: burns wrote: I'm running Suse 7.2 Pro and this thing flies! It's hard to concentrate on the screen with all this wind in my hair g. I am running very similar 1.2 gig Athlon 256mb DDR and Soltek MB 60 gig HD space. What this skiting about hair, in your case; What hair ?? You lost it there Skippy, it's an old Kanuck tradition that on those rare occaisons they have a success, they stand on a chair , open their trenchcoat.. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Yeah, but the plotter was free. $525 for an interface card for an 80's vintage plotter that didn't cost me a dime is really a bit pricey. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:04 am, you wrote: Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
star Office new video card
Had a problem installing Star Office, d/l it to a dir and called 'setup' but that fell over staright away as it could not seem to find a stsrting point, Anyone else setup this 638 version ? New video card inserted and it now falls over on X startup; now that lizardx is defunct and I have not used any other what do i call rather than doing a total install, just to reset to a new video card. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Another great article by D.E.P.
Jim, Most people that want to test the waters when it comes to linux, still want to have a working and fully functional copy of Windows. You Isn't this an oxymoron? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Ask whoever you got the plotter from what they do with old computers and parts. ;-) he/she probably had no idea it needed an interface card. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:18, Aaron Grewell wrote: Yeah, but the plotter was free. $525 for an interface card for an 80's vintage plotter that didn't cost me a dime is really a bit pricey. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:04 am, you wrote: Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Citibank: Which OS?
Joel Hammer wrote: Citibank Computer Crash Knocks Out 2,000 ATMs I believe OS/2 is still the OS of choice for most ATMs. K -- Bedfellows make strange politicians. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Citibank: Which OS?
Hard to say what was at fault they use Vpro5 for their data files and it needs an M$ OS. They use microbanker for bank fund transfers, Customisation of MICROBANKER (MBx), a corporate banking product of CITICORP. MBx has some retail banking features also. It is a product developed on Business Basic (BBx) from BASIS INTERNATIONAL USA. MBx and BBx are available on both LAN and UNIX. The hardware for Customisation is WIPRO LANDMARK and the O/S is Wenix 3.2 they use this for credit card info, who knows what OS, AIX?? Citicorp Credit Services has used Orchestrate to build a large credit card data warehousing system on a 116-processor IBM SP using DB2 UDB EEE. The teller machines run on an Arcnet LAN which has their own embedded chips. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:13, Joel Hammer wrote: Citibank Computer Crash Knocks Out 2,000 ATMs Does anyone know which OS Citibank uses? Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTfurther numbers of the beast (from /.)
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: [mondo deletia] Flt. #666 Flight number of the Beast 666-66- SSN of the Beast 900-666- Telephone sex number of the Beast 666 666th Street Street address of the Beast alt.666 Usenet group of the Beast 66.66.66.66 IP address of the Beast Kurt -- A woman can look both moral and exciting -- if she also looks as if it were quite a struggle. -- Edna Ferber ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: star Office new video card
Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XF86Setup not if he's using xfree86-4.x, that tool went the way of the dinosaur along with xfree86-3.x (for better or worse). Xfree86-4.x uses either the original cli tool xf86config, or one of xf86cfg or, in the latest version, X -configure to get you up and running. FWIW, I still prefer to use xf86config - I guess old habits die hard. myles On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:41, Keith Antoine wrote: Had a problem installing Star Office, d/l it to a dir and called 'setup' but that fell over staright away as it could not seem to find a stsrting point, Anyone else setup this 638 version ? New video card inserted and it now falls over on X startup; now that lizardx is defunct and I have not used any other what do i call rather than doing a total install, just to reset to a new video card. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New SxS ?
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:39, Chang wrote: try this one: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtech nol/iis/deploy/depovg/win2kcd.asp Works in Netscape, doesn't display the main frame in Konqueror.. For those with Microsloth-challenged browsers, here is an excerpt: Microsoft Virtual Conference Linux Migration Guide Welcome to the Linux Migration Guide. Learn how to migrate your Linux e-commerce site to a Microsoft Web solution platform. View a demonstration of the IIS Migration Wizard from 3 Leaf Solutions. Hear experts from ActiveState describe how to port Linux scripting languages to Microsoft. Read how to use the tools and utilities in the Microsoft SQL Server product to migrate from MySQL to Microsoft SQL Server 2000. -- burns ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I moved from eDesktop 2.4 to Redhat 7.1 and when backing up and saving personal stuff, I tarred up my mail directory and bzip2 it up on to a zip disk. Now when trying to retrieve my mail directory, it bunzip2's ok but it won't untar. tar xvf mail.tar puts me right back to a prompt with it still listed as mail.tar. No error messages no nothing. Just the mail.tar file staring mockingly at me. Nothing I try with the tar command works. It just always goes back to the prompt. Any ideas of how I can untar this? I hate to lose all those e-mail tips I've received over the years. A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was the command you used? Did you check the file size of the .tar file against the original folder (IIRC, they should be very close to the same)? Did you try unpacking the .tar.bz2 file with 'tar xyvf file.tar.bz2'? Can you see what's in the .tar file using some utility like KDE's Archiver or maybe midnight commander? And lastly, have you done this successfully in the past? Sorry for all the questions but those are what came to mind. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New SxS ?
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:10 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:39, Chang wrote: try this one: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodte ch nol/iis/deploy/depovg/win2kcd.asp Works in Netscape, doesn't display the main frame in Konqueror.. For those with Microsloth-challenged browsers, here is an excerpt: Microsoft Virtual Conference Linux Migration Guide Welcome to the Linux Migration Guide. Learn how to migrate your Linux e-commerce site to a Microsoft Web solution platform. View a demonstration of the IIS Migration Wizard from 3 Leaf Solutions. Hear experts from ActiveState describe how to port Linux scripting languages to Microsoft. Read how to use the tools and utilities in the Microsoft SQL Server product to migrate from MySQL to Microsoft SQL Server 2000. Burns I read some of this and this must be someones idea of a joke. M$ludge is not that arrougant or just stupid are theyg cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ATI Xpert 128
Has anyone used the PCI version of the ATI Xpert 128 for Linux/XFree96? Does it work? Does it work well? Anomalies noted??? Oh, COL 3.1, AMD 900 Mhz, 512M RAM system. Thanks in advance. Steve ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
