Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Chris Hellyar  wrote:

> Here's the blast from the past:
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/
>
> I did a quick fix-up but it's a bit broken in places as some of the code
> no longer works on current PHP.  I'll fix it up before putting it up on
> clug.org.nz and make the change date the final date it was up for the
> last installfest.
>
> Bonus points if someone can name everyone in the photos:
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/photos.php
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/gallfull.php?img=inst7
>
> That's me on the left although I have a beard these days, Nick Rout, ???
> and Leo Bolter.  I still have the T-shirt though, and wear it every now
> and then.
>


??? is Chris Bayley, who still lives near ChCh.

I am not 100% sure of Leo's surname, Chris Sawtell would know.

The minimum specs were interesting too:

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/register.php




>
> I can see also Chris Sawtel in there, Carl, Rik in the other pics. Quite
> a few faces that look familiar I can't put names to as well.
>
> It seems when the site as last updated ( March 2003 ) clug was still a
> 'thing' per:  http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/clug.php
>
> However, that was after the now famous 'there is no club' post to the
> list from Carl..
>
> http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html
>
> So obviously the site had not caught up. :-)
>
> Enjoy,
> Chris H.
>
>
> On 28/05/16 01:21, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> > Hi folks
> >
> > I'm going to restore the circa 2003 install fest website for a laugh
> > with a bit of new no-clug content to explain what it is.  ( I kept a
> > copy, dunno why. ;-) )
> >
> > The grey-beards will remember that was on linuxnut.co.nz, we moved to
> > clug.org.nz in 2004 I think?  The whois suggests august '04.  We had
> > some stuff on linuxnut from late 2001.  I originally bought the domain
> > just as a vanity domain but put the club info on it when we were having
> > regular meetings in town.
> >
> > I see Nick R. is still the owner of linuxnut.co.nz, but there's no site
> > on it although it has been used as the domain for the CHCH robotics
> > group list since 6/9/2006.  Before that the robotics list was on
> > rout.co.nz.  I might get Nick to point the A record for that at the
> > install fest site as well.
> >
> > Nick took over the registration for both domains from me at some point,
> > probably early 2006? Would have been after I stopped doing bulk hosting
> > and swore I would never do it again...  Famous last words.
> >
> > Memories..  :-)
> >
> > Cheers, Chris H.
> >
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Patelkhana Mohan Rao]

good going Regards,
Mohan Patelkhana


 
  From: David Kirk <davidrk...@gmail.com>
 To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz> 
 Sent: Monday, 30 May 2016 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
   
Hi all,
It is done.  I have closed the CLUG bank account and transferred $470.96 to 
Rik.  Use it wisely.
I didn't hear anything from Ross, so I assume he doesn't want to be reimbursed 
for his expenses related to the clug.org.nz domain name.

Thanks
David

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Chris Hellyar <ch...@trash.co.nz> wrote:

Here's the blast from the past:

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/

I did a quick fix-up but it's a bit broken in places as some of the code
no longer works on current PHP.  I'll fix it up before putting it up on
clug.org.nz and make the change date the final date it was up for the
last installfest.

Bonus points if someone can name everyone in the photos:

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/photos.php

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/gallfull.php?img=inst7

That's me on the left although I have a beard these days, Nick Rout, ???
and Leo Bolter.  I still have the T-shirt though, and wear it every now
and then.

I can see also Chris Sawtel in there, Carl, Rik in the other pics. Quite
a few faces that look familiar I can't put names to as well.

It seems when the site as last updated ( March 2003 ) clug was still a
'thing' per:  http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/clug.php

However, that was after the now famous 'there is no club' post to the
list from Carl..

http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html

So obviously the site had not caught up. :-)

Enjoy,
Chris H.


On 28/05/16 01:21, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I'm going to restore the circa 2003 install fest website for a laugh
> with a bit of new no-clug content to explain what it is.  ( I kept a
> copy, dunno why. ;-) )
>
> The grey-beards will remember that was on linuxnut.co.nz, we moved to
> clug.org.nz in 2004 I think?  The whois suggests august '04.  We had
> some stuff on linuxnut from late 2001.  I originally bought the domain
> just as a vanity domain but put the club info on it when we were having
> regular meetings in town.
>
> I see Nick R. is still the owner of linuxnut.co.nz, but there's no site
> on it although it has been used as the domain for the CHCH robotics
> group list since 6/9/2006.  Before that the robotics list was on
> rout.co.nz.  I might get Nick to point the A record for that at the
> install fest site as well.
>
> Nick took over the registration for both domains from me at some point,
> probably early 2006? Would have been after I stopped doing bulk hosting
> and swore I would never do it again...  Famous last words.
>
> Memories..  :-)
>
> Cheers, Chris H.
>
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[David Kirk]

Hi all,

It is done.  I have closed the CLUG bank account and transferred $470.96 to
Rik.  Use it wisely.

I didn't hear anything from Ross, so I assume he doesn't want to be
reimbursed for his expenses related to the clug.org.nz domain name.


Thanks

David

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Chris Hellyar  wrote:

> Here's the blast from the past:
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/
>
> I did a quick fix-up but it's a bit broken in places as some of the code
> no longer works on current PHP.  I'll fix it up before putting it up on
> clug.org.nz and make the change date the final date it was up for the
> last installfest.
>
> Bonus points if someone can name everyone in the photos:
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/photos.php
>
> http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/gallfull.php?img=inst7
>
> That's me on the left although I have a beard these days, Nick Rout, ???
> and Leo Bolter.  I still have the T-shirt though, and wear it every now
> and then.
>
> I can see also Chris Sawtel in there, Carl, Rik in the other pics. Quite
> a few faces that look familiar I can't put names to as well.
>
> It seems when the site as last updated ( March 2003 ) clug was still a
> 'thing' per:  http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/clug.php
>
> However, that was after the now famous 'there is no club' post to the
> list from Carl..
>
> http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html
>
> So obviously the site had not caught up. :-)
>
> Enjoy,
> Chris H.
>
>
> On 28/05/16 01:21, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> > Hi folks
> >
> > I'm going to restore the circa 2003 install fest website for a laugh
> > with a bit of new no-clug content to explain what it is.  ( I kept a
> > copy, dunno why. ;-) )
> >
> > The grey-beards will remember that was on linuxnut.co.nz, we moved to
> > clug.org.nz in 2004 I think?  The whois suggests august '04.  We had
> > some stuff on linuxnut from late 2001.  I originally bought the domain
> > just as a vanity domain but put the club info on it when we were having
> > regular meetings in town.
> >
> > I see Nick R. is still the owner of linuxnut.co.nz, but there's no site
> > on it although it has been used as the domain for the CHCH robotics
> > group list since 6/9/2006.  Before that the robotics list was on
> > rout.co.nz.  I might get Nick to point the A record for that at the
> > install fest site as well.
> >
> > Nick took over the registration for both domains from me at some point,
> > probably early 2006? Would have been after I stopped doing bulk hosting
> > and swore I would never do it again...  Famous last words.
> >
> > Memories..  :-)
> >
> > Cheers, Chris H.
> >
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Chris Hellyar]

Here's the blast from the past:

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/

I did a quick fix-up but it's a bit broken in places as some of the code
no longer works on current PHP.  I'll fix it up before putting it up on
clug.org.nz and make the change date the final date it was up for the
last installfest.

Bonus points if someone can name everyone in the photos:

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/photos.php

http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/gallfull.php?img=inst7

That's me on the left although I have a beard these days, Nick Rout, ???
and Leo Bolter.  I still have the T-shirt though, and wear it every now
and then.

I can see also Chris Sawtel in there, Carl, Rik in the other pics. Quite
a few faces that look familiar I can't put names to as well.

It seems when the site as last updated ( March 2003 ) clug was still a
'thing' per:  http://logicalit.biz/linuxnut/clug.php

However, that was after the now famous 'there is no club' post to the
list from Carl..

http://lists.ethernal.org/oldarchives/cantlug-0301/msg00416.html

So obviously the site had not caught up. :-)

Enjoy,
Chris H.


On 28/05/16 01:21, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I'm going to restore the circa 2003 install fest website for a laugh
> with a bit of new no-clug content to explain what it is.  ( I kept a
> copy, dunno why. ;-) )
> 
> The grey-beards will remember that was on linuxnut.co.nz, we moved to
> clug.org.nz in 2004 I think?  The whois suggests august '04.  We had
> some stuff on linuxnut from late 2001.  I originally bought the domain
> just as a vanity domain but put the club info on it when we were having
> regular meetings in town.
> 
> I see Nick R. is still the owner of linuxnut.co.nz, but there's no site
> on it although it has been used as the domain for the CHCH robotics
> group list since 6/9/2006.  Before that the robotics list was on
> rout.co.nz.  I might get Nick to point the A record for that at the
> install fest site as well.
> 
> Nick took over the registration for both domains from me at some point,
> probably early 2006? Would have been after I stopped doing bulk hosting
> and swore I would never do it again...  Famous last words.
> 
> Memories..  :-)
> 
> Cheers, Chris H.
> 
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Chris Hellyar]

Hi folks

I'm going to restore the circa 2003 install fest website for a laugh
with a bit of new no-clug content to explain what it is.  ( I kept a
copy, dunno why. ;-) )

The grey-beards will remember that was on linuxnut.co.nz, we moved to
clug.org.nz in 2004 I think?  The whois suggests august '04.  We had
some stuff on linuxnut from late 2001.  I originally bought the domain
just as a vanity domain but put the club info on it when we were having
regular meetings in town.

I see Nick R. is still the owner of linuxnut.co.nz, but there's no site
on it although it has been used as the domain for the CHCH robotics
group list since 6/9/2006.  Before that the robotics list was on
rout.co.nz.  I might get Nick to point the A record for that at the
install fest site as well.

Nick took over the registration for both domains from me at some point,
probably early 2006? Would have been after I stopped doing bulk hosting
and swore I would never do it again...  Famous last words.

Memories..  :-)

Cheers, Chris H.



On 27/05/16 16:01, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> On Fri 27 May 2016 12:05:06 NZST +1200, David Kirk wrote:
> 
>> Having looked at the http://www.clug.org.nz site, I don't think there is a
>> need to keep it.  If Chris wants to take over the domain and keep CLUG
>> content on it, then I'm ok with that.  I wouldn't like to see non-CLUG
>> stuff go on it though.
> 
> That doesn't work. You either keep the domain and pay for it, or you let
> it go, in which case you accept the new owner (who is paying for it!)
> being able to do with it as they please.
> 
> So if 1. it is decided to let the domain name go, then 2. Chris should
> get the first right of refusal on historic grounds.
> 
> I maintain that there is value in explaining on a web page that and why
> there is no clug, and to link to the mailing list. If Chris wants to do
> that fine, if not, fine too.
> 
> Volker
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Volker Kuhlmann]

On Fri 27 May 2016 12:05:06 NZST +1200, David Kirk wrote:

> Having looked at the http://www.clug.org.nz site, I don't think there is a
> need to keep it.  If Chris wants to take over the domain and keep CLUG
> content on it, then I'm ok with that.  I wouldn't like to see non-CLUG
> stuff go on it though.

That doesn't work. You either keep the domain and pay for it, or you let
it go, in which case you accept the new owner (who is paying for it!)
being able to do with it as they please.

So if 1. it is decided to let the domain name go, then 2. Chris should
get the first right of refusal on historic grounds.

I maintain that there is value in explaining on a web page that and why
there is no clug, and to link to the mailing list. If Chris wants to do
that fine, if not, fine too.

Volker

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Derek Smithies]

Jim,
 no worries. You are asking a reasonable question.

Cheers,
 Derek.

On 27/05/16 11:34, Jim Cheetham wrote:

There was another thread on that, but it seems to have been lost.
I'm questioning the need to maintain the domain name registration at
all; there doesn't seem to be any activity that needs it any more, and
none planned. So why pay?

(Yes, I'm being a little contrarian)

-jim

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Volker Kuhlmann
 wrote:

On Fri 27 May 2016 08:49:41 NZST +1200, David Kirk wrote:


I also think we should reimburse Ross for any costs relating to the domain
name.  Send me details offlist and I'll organise payment.

I think that should go without discussion!

Is the current registrar of clug.org.nz sponsoring the registration, or
is Ross or someone else paying for it? The answer to this is critical
before giving the remaining money away.

Volker

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Jim Cheetham]

There was another thread on that, but it seems to have been lost.
I'm questioning the need to maintain the domain name registration at
all; there doesn't seem to be any activity that needs it any more, and
none planned. So why pay?

(Yes, I'm being a little contrarian)

-jim

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Volker Kuhlmann
 wrote:
> On Fri 27 May 2016 08:49:41 NZST +1200, David Kirk wrote:
>
>> I also think we should reimburse Ross for any costs relating to the domain
>> name.  Send me details offlist and I'll organise payment.
>
> I think that should go without discussion!
>
> Is the current registrar of clug.org.nz sponsoring the registration, or
> is Ross or someone else paying for it? The answer to this is critical
> before giving the remaining money away.
>
> Volker
>
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Patelkhana Mohan Rao]

Good Plan
 Regards,
Mohan Patelkhana


 
  From: Chris Hellyar <ch...@trash.co.nz>
 To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz> 
 Sent: Friday, 27 May 2016 10:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
   
 Good-o, sounds like a plan. :-)
  
 On 27/05/16 08:49, David Kirk wrote:
  
 Hi, 
  Well I think the majority of people have chosen option 2, so I will close the 
account and find some way of getting the money to Rik. 
  Rik, can you contact me offlist and send me some bank account details that I 
can transfer the money to? 
  I also think we should reimburse Ross for any costs relating to the domain 
name.  Send me details offlist and I'll organise payment. 
  
  Thanks  
  David  
  On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:02 PM yuri <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
I vote option 2.
 As for drinks - I still think we should get together - but pay for our
 own drinks.
 As someone else pointed out, spending CLUG money on booze would be
 misrepresented in the media.
 
 Yuri de Groot
 
 On 18 May 2016 at 12:20, Peter Glassenbury(UoC)
 <peter.glassenb...@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
 > Same
 >
 > Peter Glassenbury              Computer Science & Software Engineering
 > p...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz     University of Canterbury
 > +64 3 3667001 ext 7762
 >
 > On 18/05/16 12:03, Roy Britten wrote:
 >>>
 >>> 1. Drink it away
 >>> 2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly
 >>> meetings
 >>> 3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
 >>
 >> I vote #2.
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Volker Kuhlmann]

On Fri 27 May 2016 08:49:41 NZST +1200, David Kirk wrote:

> I also think we should reimburse Ross for any costs relating to the domain
> name.  Send me details offlist and I'll organise payment.

I think that should go without discussion!

Is the current registrar of clug.org.nz sponsoring the registration, or
is Ross or someone else paying for it? The answer to this is critical
before giving the remaining money away.

Volker

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[David Kirk]

Hi,

Well I think the majority of people have chosen option 2, so I will close
the account and find some way of getting the money to Rik.

Rik, can you contact me offlist and send me some bank account details that
I can transfer the money to?

I also think we should reimburse Ross for any costs relating to the domain
name.  Send me details offlist and I'll organise payment.


Thanks

David

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:02 PM yuri  wrote:

> I vote option 2.
> As for drinks - I still think we should get together - but pay for our
> own drinks.
> As someone else pointed out, spending CLUG money on booze would be
> misrepresented in the media.
>
> Yuri de Groot
>
> On 18 May 2016 at 12:20, Peter Glassenbury(UoC)
>  wrote:
> > Same
> >
> > Peter Glassenbury  Computer Science & Software Engineering
> > p...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz University of Canterbury
> > +64 3 3667001 ext 7762
> >
> > On 18/05/16 12:03, Roy Britten wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Drink it away
> >>> 2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly
> >>> meetings
> >>> 3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
> >>
> >> I vote #2.
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Roy Britten]

> 1. Drink it away
> 2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly
> meetings
> 3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation

I vote #2.
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Bryce Stenberg]

I also vote #2.
-bryce.

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[mailto:linux-users-boun...@lists.canterbury.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Rik Tindall
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 10:20 PM
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

On 2016-05-17 16:08, Brett Davidson wrote:
> On 17/05/2016 9:52 AM, David Kirk wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> The balance is about $470.
>>
>> So, we have three suggestions so far.
>>
>> 1. Drink it away
>> 2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his 
>> monthly meetings
>> 3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The 
>> group can decide.
>>
>> Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  
>> Do you have some ideas about what you would use it for?
>>
>> I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
>>
>> Lets vote.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David
>
> I vote #2.
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Hello CLUG,

I am following this discussion and happy to put this fund towards 
further FOSS promotion work in Chch. That could include LCA depending 
how its plan evolves. Thanks for consideration of the FreeNix workshop 
capacity.

Regards

Rik Tindall

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Rik Tindall]

On 2016-05-17 16:08, Brett Davidson wrote:

On 17/05/2016 9:52 AM, David Kirk wrote:

Hi Chris,

The balance is about $470.

So, we have three suggestions so far.

1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his 
monthly meetings

3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation

I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The 
group can decide.


Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  
Do you have some ideas about what you would use it for?


I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.

Lets vote.

Thanks

David


I vote #2.

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Hello CLUG,

I am following this discussion and happy to put this fund towards 
further FOSS promotion work in Chch. That could include LCA depending 
how its plan evolves. Thanks for consideration of the FreeNix workshop 
capacity.


Regards

Rik Tindall

332-1069
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[steve]

I vote 3, but we really should organise a subset of 1. Been too long!

On 05/17/2016 02:58 PM, Chris Hellyar wrote:


Given that I still wear the installfest T-shirt occasionally I thought 
I'd throw my vote in as well. :-)


I think if Rick has a use for the money for the SFD's that would be a 
good local use for the money.


Cheers, Chris H.

-Original Message-

From: "David Kirk" <davidrk...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2016 09:52
To: "Canterbury Linux Users Group" <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

Hi Chris,
The balance is about $470.
So, we have three suggestions so far.
1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly 
meetings

3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The 
group can decide.
Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do 
you have some ideas about what you would use it for?

I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
Lets vote.
Thanks
David

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell <csawt...@gmail.com 
<mailto:csawt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank
balance would be to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I
would not have any qualms putting my signature to a payment
document which did this.
btw : . What is the balance?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message 
From: Criggie <crig...@criggie.org.nz <mailto:crig...@criggie.org.nz>>
Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00)
To: linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
<mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies <derek.smith...@gmail.com
<mailto:derek.smith...@gmail.com>>
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
<linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
<mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>>
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com
<mailto:5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

>   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a
really
good reason to keep going?
> We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up
misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one
of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their
charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

* Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
* UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only
thing
that holds CLUG together
* WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without
losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?



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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Brett Davidson]

On 17/05/2016 9:52 AM, David Kirk wrote:

Hi Chris,

The balance is about $470.

So, we have three suggestions so far.

1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly 
meetings

3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation

I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The 
group can decide.


Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do 
you have some ideas about what you would use it for?


I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.

Lets vote.


Thanks

David

I vote #2.

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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Robert Fisher]

+1 from me

On 17 May 2016 at 14:58, Chris Hellyar <ch...@trash.co.nz> wrote:

> Given that I still wear the installfest T-shirt occasionally I thought I'd
> throw my vote in as well. :-)
>
>
>
> I think if Rick has a use for the money for the SFD's that would be a good
> local use for the money.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Chris H.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: "David Kirk" <davidrk...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2016 09:52
> To: "Canterbury Linux Users Group" <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
>
> Hi Chris,
> The balance is about $470.
> So, we have three suggestions so far.
> 1. Drink it away
> 2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly
> meetings
> 3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
> I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The group
> can decide.
> Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do you
> have some ideas about what you would use it for?
> I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
> Lets vote.
> Thanks
> David
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell <csawt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank balance
>> would be to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I would not have any
>> qualms putting my signature to a payment document which did this.
>> btw : . What is the balance?
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>  Original message 
>> From: Criggie <crig...@criggie.org.nz>
>> Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00)
>> To: linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
>> Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
>> From: Derek Smithies <derek.smith...@gmail.com>
>> To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
>> Subject: Re:
>> Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> >   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really
>> good reason to keep going?
>> > We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...
>>
>> I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
>> in the newspaper.
>>
>> Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
>> times where no-clug is a bad thing.
>>
>> Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
>> doesn't.
>>
>> So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
>> consultation or approval.
>>
>> I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
>> recipients for some or all of the funds.
>>
>> * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
>> * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
>> that holds CLUG together
>> * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.
>>
>>
>> Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.
>>
>> This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
>> arms, legs or an entire firstborn.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> http://criggie.org.nz/
>>
>>
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Chris Hellyar]

Given that I still wear the installfest T-shirt occasionally I thought I'd 
throw my vote in as well. :-)
 
I think if Rick has a use for the money for the SFD's that would be a good 
local use for the money.
 
Cheers, Chris H.
 
-Original Message-
From: "David Kirk" <davidrk...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2016 09:52
To: "Canterbury Linux Users Group" <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account



Hi Chris,
The balance is about $470.
So, we have three suggestions so far.
1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly meetings
3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The group can 
decide.
Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do you have 
some ideas about what you would use it for?
I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
Lets vote.
Thanks
David



On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell <[ csawt...@gmail.com ]( 
mailto:csawt...@gmail.com )> wrote:

The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank balance would be 
to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I would not have any qualms putting 
my signature to a payment document which did this. 
btw : . What is the balance?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Criggie <[ crig...@criggie.org.nz ]( mailto:crig...@criggie.org.nz )>
Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00)
To: [ linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz ]( 
mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz )
Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank AccountDate: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies <[ derek.smith...@gmail.com ]( 
mailto:derek.smith...@gmail.com )>
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <[ linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz ]( 
mailto:linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz )>
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <[ 5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com ]( mailto:5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com 
)>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"


>   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really
good reason to keep going?
> We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

 * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
 * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
that holds CLUG together
 * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?




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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Patelkhana Mohan Rao]

my vote is for option no2.
 Regards,
Mohan Patelkhana


 
  From: David Kirk <davidrk...@gmail.com>
 To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2016 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
   
Hi Chris,
The balance is about $470.
So, we have three suggestions so far.
1. Drink it away2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his 
monthly meetings3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation
I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The group can 
decide.
Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do you have 
some ideas about what you would use it for?
I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.
Lets vote.

Thanks
David

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell <csawt...@gmail.com> wrote:

The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank balance would be 
to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I would not have any qualms putting 
my signature to a payment document which did this. 
btw : . What is the balance?


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Criggie <crig...@criggie.org.nz> Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00) To: 
linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account 
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies <derek.smith...@gmail.com>
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group <linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

>   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really
good reason to keep going?
> We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

 * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
 * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
that holds CLUG together
 * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?



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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[David Kirk]

Hi Chris,

The balance is about $470.

So, we have three suggestions so far.

1. Drink it away
2. Transfer it to Rik to use for Software Freedom Day and his monthly
meetings
3. Donate to the Free Software Foundation

I'm not a big fan of drinking it away, but it's not my money.  The group
can decide.

Rik, are you reading this?  I'm happy for the money to go to you.  Do you
have some ideas about what you would use it for?

I'm also fine with donating to FSF or other open source groups.

Lets vote.


Thanks

David

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM csawtell  wrote:

> The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank balance
> would be to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I would not have any
> qualms putting my signature to a payment document which did this.
>
> btw : . What is the balance?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message 
> From: Criggie 
> Date: 16/05/2016 15:17 (GMT+12:00)
> To: linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz
> Subject: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account
>
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
> From: Derek Smithies 
> To: Canterbury Linux Users Group 
> Subject: Re:
> Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>
> >   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really
> good reason to keep going?
> > We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...
>
> I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
> in the newspaper.
>
> Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
> times where no-clug is a bad thing.
>
> Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
> doesn't.
>
> So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
> consultation or approval.
>
> I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
> recipients for some or all of the funds.
>
> * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
> * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
> that holds CLUG together
> * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.
>
>
> Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.
>
> This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
> arms, legs or an entire firstborn.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> --
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>
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>
>
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[csawtell]

The "politically correct" thing to do with the remaining bank balance would be 
to gift it to the Free Software Foundation. I would not have any qualms putting 
my signature to a payment document which did this. 
btw : . What is the balance?


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Criggie  Date: 16/05/2016  15:17  (GMT+12:00) To: 
linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: [Linux-users]  CLUG Bank Account 
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies 
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group 
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <5738ec04.2020...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

>   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really
good reason to keep going?
> We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

 * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
 * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
that holds CLUG together
 * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?



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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Peter Glassenbury(UoC)]

Don't know what we could usefully use $500 at the UC for
the mailing list related things or anything related to CLUG
promotion. The University will support local groups where it
can because it is a social good. (we supported the NZ PyCon a little)

Personally, since the money was raised in Canterbury, spending it here
is good. Rik's ongoing work is what seems to be the main
idea coming up and sounds like it would promote the aims of
an unofficial CLUG (that only doesn't exist officially). :-)

Pete

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On 16/05/16 15:17, Criggie wrote:

Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:37:08 +1200
From: Derek Smithies 
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group 


   I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really

good reason to keep going?

We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

I'd rather you didn't - that's the sort of thing that ends up misreported
in the newspaper.

Since there is no clug, anyone can do what they want.  This is one of the
times where no-clug is a bad thing.

Formalised groups have wind-up proceedings as part of their charter.  Clug
doesn't.

So David - you could do anything or nothing, completely without
consultation or approval.

I'd make a suggestion that we consider these groups as worthy possible
recipients for some or all of the funds.

  * Rik, for his ongoing work in the OSS field.
  * UOC for their contribution of mailing list, this being the only thing
that holds CLUG together
  * WLUG, for being an Incorporated Society and doing the FOS/OSS thing.


Noone's used horse in a long time.  I'm happy to turn it off.

This is assuming that David can take money out of the bank without losing
arms, legs or an entire firstborn.

Thoughts?





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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Jim Cheetham]

+1 to the idea of finding a way to get the money to Rik to use; he's
long been a champion of Software Freedom Day and has been holding
meetings consistently even throughout all the turmoil of the quakes.

-jim

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Nick Rout  wrote:
> Does Rik have any costs involved in the monthly meetings he holds?
>
> Alternatively Software Freedom Day might like the money.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:32 AM, David Kirk  wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Sometime in the distant past we had an Installfest and we had a few
>> dollars left over.  Nobody wanted to take responsibility for the money, so I
>> was left holding it and from then on I was the unofficial Treasurer.
>>
>> We used the money for our regular meetings and I set up a bank account at
>> Westpac.
>>
>> The money has been sitting in the bank for several years now untouched.  I
>> get a statement every 6 months.
>>
>> I went to the bank over the weekend to change my address and they wouldn't
>> let me update the account because we haven't proved any documentation like
>> our last meeting minutes or some other stuff that I can't provide because
>> 'CLUG does not exist'.  They need this documentation to comply with AML
>> (anti money laundering) rules.
>>
>> There is about $470 in the account and it earns about 3 - 4 cents per
>> month.
>>
>> I don't think we are likely to have any more installfests and CLUG doesn't
>> have any income.  The only expense we might have is our domain name.  This
>> is currently funded by Discount Domains.  I'm not sure we even need to keep
>> that.  Have a look at http://clug.org.nz.
>>
>> I think we should close the bank account and maybe donate the money
>> somewhere.  Does anyone have any suggestions or objections?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Nick Rout]

Does Rik have any costs involved in the monthly meetings he holds?

Alternatively Software Freedom Day might like the money.

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:32 AM, David Kirk  wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> Sometime in the distant past we had an Installfest and we had a few
> dollars left over.  Nobody wanted to take responsibility for the money, so
> I was left holding it and from then on I was the unofficial Treasurer.
>
> We used the money for our regular meetings and I set up a bank account at
> Westpac.
>
> The money has been sitting in the bank for several years now untouched.  I
> get a statement every 6 months.
>
> I went to the bank over the weekend to change my address and they wouldn't
> let me update the account because we haven't proved any documentation like
> our last meeting minutes or some other stuff that I can't provide because
> 'CLUG does not exist'.  They need this documentation to comply with AML
> (anti money laundering) rules.
>
> There is about $470 in the account and it earns about 3 - 4 cents per
> month.
>
> I don't think we are likely to have any more installfests and CLUG doesn't
> have any income.  The only expense we might have is our domain name.  This
> is currently funded by Discount Domains.  I'm not sure we even need to keep
> that.  Have a look at http://clug.org.nz.
>
> I think we should close the bank account and maybe donate the money
> somewhere.  Does anyone have any suggestions or objections?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>
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Re: [Linux-users] CLUG Bank Account

[Derek Smithies]

Hi,
 I think the real question is:: What does CLUG do  that makes a really 
good reason to keep going?


We could all go down to the local and have a drink up...

Cheers,
 Derek.

On 16/05/16 09:32, David Kirk wrote:

Hey everyone,

Sometime in the distant past we had an Installfest and we had a few 
dollars left over.  Nobody wanted to take responsibility for the 
money, so I was left holding it and from then on I was the unofficial 
Treasurer.


We used the money for our regular meetings and I set up a bank account 
at Westpac.


The money has been sitting in the bank for several years now 
untouched.  I get a statement every 6 months.


I went to the bank over the weekend to change my address and they 
wouldn't let me update the account because we haven't proved any 
documentation like our last meeting minutes or some other stuff that I 
can't provide because 'CLUG does not exist'.  They need this 
documentation to comply with AML (anti money laundering) rules.


There is about $470 in the account and it earns about 3 - 4 cents per 
month.


I don't think we are likely to have any more installfests and CLUG 
doesn't have any income.  The only expense we might have is our domain 
name.  This is currently funded by Discount Domains.  I'm not sure we 
even need to keep that.  Have a look at http://clug.org.nz.


I think we should close the bank account and maybe donate the money 
somewhere.  Does anyone have any suggestions or objections?



Thanks

David


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