Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 03:54:07 PM sanga collins 
wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in
 Uganda, is it worth paying the membership fee's? The
 website looks very nice but did not really convey the
 true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.

I got the same. How did they get our names?

I haven't really looked at the web site, although I read the 
e-mail.

So there is a fee?

Mark.


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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
Sanga,

As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.

The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever we
do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and Government.
One key role is to be able to actually lobby government effectively about
issues facing our industry. As someone who has been outspoken about various
issues on this forum, your voice would be an invaluable one to add.
Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open Source Solutions and how
they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to fill is the
representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used myself, a) As I
was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in Uganda. c) Too busy
by far.

This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago for
OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the LUG
Committee/Chair.

When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
the board members if that would help?

Simon




On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
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 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Kyle Spencer
Sanga,

I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its
operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.

Regards,
Kyle Spencer
On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far.

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago for
 OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the LUG
 Committee/Chair.

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
 the board members if that would help?

 Simon




 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
 ~~~
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 E- fax: (435) 578 7411

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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread sanga collins
The member fees are not too bad in my opinion. They have several tiers
depending on if how you want to be involved.

Simon: I am hoping to be back in Kampala next spring. No solid dates yet
since I need to clear it with work first, but I would be glad to meet with
some of the members. I too would not be able to fill the role of LUG rep,
but that wont stop me from being involved.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:00 AM, billyn...@gmail.com
billyn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sanga,

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far.

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago for
 OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the LUG
 Committee/Chair.

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
 the board members if that would help?

 Simon




 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
 ~~~
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 E- fax: (435) 578 7411

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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
company subscription?

--
Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.


On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its
 operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer
 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far.

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago
 for OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the
 LUG Committee/Chair.

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
 the board members if that would help?

 Simon




 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
 ~~~
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 E- fax: (435) 578 7411

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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
Peter,

That is a level 1 Member such as a Telecommunications companies, ICT
Manufacturers and equipment suppliers, MNCs operating in Uganda.


   - Accreditation and Branding use as per guidelines
   - Brand Recognition on certain ICTAU Merchandise
   - *Three* Committee Members/ Votes
   - *Level One*, will get priority consideration for  sending
   representatives to international events


But goes down to Level 3 @ 1,000,000 - Ugandan Software development
companies and distributors, computer hardware dealers and distributors, web
hosting companies, web design companies, IT support companies and solutions
companies.


   - Accreditation and Branding use as per guidelines
   - Brand Recognition on certain ICTAU Merchandise as per
   - *Level 3 *Merchandise Guidelines
   - *One* committee members/ votes




On 10 October 2013 17:18, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
 company subscription?

 --
 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.


 On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its
 operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer
 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a
 go.

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far.

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago
 for OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the
 LUG Committee/Chair.

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some
 of the board members if that would help?

 Simon




 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
 ~~~
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 E- fax: (435) 578 7411

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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter Atkin
Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just cannot 
justify it.. 

 

Kind Regards 

  

Peter Atkin FBCS

+256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu |  http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin 
LinkedIn Profile

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of 
Peter C. Ndikuwera
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:18 PM
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 

I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for company 
subscription?




--

Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events 
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given 
credit.

 

On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

Sanga,

I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its 
operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as 
everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented when 
lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.

Regards,
Kyle Spencer

On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Sanga,

 

As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.

 

The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT 
professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly the 
type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who has good 
practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in improving and 
expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 

It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever we do 
already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and Government. One key 
role is to be able to actually lobby government effectively about issues facing 
our industry. As someone who has been outspoken about various issues on this 
forum, your voice would be an invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a 
practical knowledge of Open Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. 
One role we have yet to fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I 
have rec used myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not 
living in Uganda. c) Too busy by far. 

 

This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago for 
OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the LUG 
Committee/Chair.

 

When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of the 
board members if that would help?

 

Simon

 

 

 

On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:

Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it worth 
paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not really 
convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
-- 
Sanga M. Collins 
Network Engineering
~~~
Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 tel:%28954%29%20324-1365 
E- fax: (435) 578 7411 tel:%28435%29%20578%207411  


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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
Hmmm clearly that table needs some work, as it obviously is not clear
enough. Let me flag it for an edit.


On 10 October 2013 17:27, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

 Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just
 cannot justify it.. 

 ** **

 Kind Regards 

   

 Peter Atkin FBCS

 +256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu | *LinkedIn 
 Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin
 *

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Peter C. Ndikuwera
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:18 PM
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 ** **

 I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
 company subscription?


 

 --

 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its
 operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.***
 *

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 ** **

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.
 

 ** **

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 ** **

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far. 

 ** **

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago for
 OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the LUG
 Committee/Chair.

 ** **

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
 the board members if that would help?

 ** **

 Simon

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 05:16:29 PM 
billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are actively recruiting for members. So mainly word of
 mouth at this stage. Lurking on Forums etc is my guess.
 Also from attending and supporting events such as the
 recent UIGF (Which might be where your name was
 mentioned Mark)

Fair point, I haven't been in Uganda for a little while, so 
I'm not sure how well-known ICTAU or its work is among 
Ugandan IT professionals. I certainly hadn't heard of it 
until now :-).

With due respect, I suppose my issue is given the amounts 
being asked (even if it's on an annual basis), I'm hoping 
I'm the only one who doesn't know of what the possibilities 
are, because those sums tend to follow born credibility. 

Like I said, it's likely I'm the only one that hasn't heard 
about ICTAU until now. If that is the case, please don't 
take offence :-). I thought my participation was being 
sought on a professional, possibly free-of-charge basis, but 
certainly didn't expect to be pushing monies out.

Cheers,

Mark.



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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
I read the whole table perhaps I just don't understand what the benefit of
accreditation - by whom? as whom? - and branding is. Especially for an
organization that's still growing.

Is this accreditation by the in-crowd? Is an ICTAU accreditation a
benefit anywhere in the world?

P.

--
Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.


On 10 October 2013 18:32, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm clearly that table needs some work, as it obviously is not clear
 enough. Let me flag it for an edit.


 On 10 October 2013 17:27, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

 Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just
 cannot justify it.. 

 ** **

 Kind Regards 

   

 Peter Atkin FBCS

 +256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu | *LinkedIn 
 Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin
 *

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Peter C. Ndikuwera
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:18 PM
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 ** **

 I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
 company subscription?


 

 --

 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable
 events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one
 is given credit.

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in its
 operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.**
 **

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 ** **

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a go.
 

 ** **

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 ** **

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far. 

 ** **

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago
 for OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the
 LUG Committee/Chair.

 ** **

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some of
 the board members if that would help?

 ** **

 Simon

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 15:54, sanga collins sanga.coll...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Just got an invite to join ICTAU. Since I do not live in Uganda, is it
 worth paying the membership fee's? The website looks very nice but did not
 really convey the true scope of what they are trying to accomplish.
 --
 Sanga M. Collins
 Network Engineering
 ~~~
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 E- fax: (435) 578 7411 


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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
Mark,

Like I said, it's likely I'm the only one that hasn't heard
about ICTAU until now. If that is the case, please don't
take offence :-). I thought my participation was being
sought on a professional, possibly free-of-charge basis, but
certainly didn't expect to be pushing monies out.


It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation. We need to money in part to
better promote and sustain the ICTAU. We have reached out in certain cases
to offer gratis members for example the committee chair for the LUG and
various other non-profits, but we can't sustain it on good will alone.

As an active member of AFNOG there would be a case to be made under that
banner, but it would need board approval.

Simon



On 10 October 2013 17:45, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 05:16:29 PM
 billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

  We are actively recruiting for members. So mainly word of
  mouth at this stage. Lurking on Forums etc is my guess.
  Also from attending and supporting events such as the
  recent UIGF (Which might be where your name was
  mentioned Mark)

 Fair point, I haven't been in Uganda for a little while, so
 I'm not sure how well-known ICTAU or its work is among
 Ugandan IT professionals. I certainly hadn't heard of it
 until now :-).

 With due respect, I suppose my issue is given the amounts
 being asked (even if it's on an annual basis), I'm hoping
 I'm the only one who doesn't know of what the possibilities
 are, because those sums tend to follow born credibility.

 Like I said, it's likely I'm the only one that hasn't heard
 about ICTAU until now. If that is the case, please don't
 take offence :-). I thought my participation was being
 sought on a professional, possibly free-of-charge basis, but
 certainly didn't expect to be pushing monies out.

 Cheers,

 Mark.




-- 
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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread billyn...@gmail.com
Peter,

Whilst we do not as yet have a formal charter, it is one thing we would
like members to create and eventually adhere too.

I seem to be copy and pasting the website. http://ictau.ug/general-benefits/

The General benefits of being a member of ICTAU include the following;

   - Strong Avenue for competitive  networks
   - Widest communication coverage via the ICTAU mailing list
   - Social capital engine
   - Jobline opportunities for members
   - Platform for sharing success stories and management experience
   - Source for highly skilled and competent persons
   - Safeguard interests of institutions
   - Access to information
   - Posting information on mailing for wider reach
   - Clarification of true identity
   - Organized addresses, databases for research and easy access to members


In order for us to perform some of the above roles we would need to
accredit and check the qualifications of the members. So in answer at the
moment the accreditation is being done by us. Eventually we will make it
both an national and hopefully an internationally recognized accreditation.
We are recognized by both the Ministry of ICT and NITA(U) and have their
blessings and support. Again how ever this is a little like a chicken and
egg scenario we need members to help shape and form the type of
organisation we want to be and continue to be. In much the same way the Law
Society or other professional bodies are shaped by their members.


Simon




On 10 October 2013 17:51, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read the whole table perhaps I just don't understand what the benefit of
 accreditation - by whom? as whom? - and branding is. Especially for an
 organization that's still growing.

 Is this accreditation by the in-crowd? Is an ICTAU accreditation a
 benefit anywhere in the world?

 P.

 --
 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
 occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
 credit.


 On 10 October 2013 18:32, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm clearly that table needs some work, as it obviously is not clear
 enough. Let me flag it for an edit.


 On 10 October 2013 17:27, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

 Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just
 cannot justify it.. 

 ** **

 Kind Regards 

   

 Peter Atkin FBCS

 +256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu | *LinkedIn 
 Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin
 *

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Peter C. Ndikuwera
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:18 PM
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 ** **

 I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
 company subscription?


 

 --

 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable
 events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one
 is given credit.

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in
 its operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.*
 ***

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 ** **

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a
 go.

 ** **

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 ** **

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how ever
 we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have yet to
 fill is the representative from the LUG to the ICTAU. I have rec used
 myself, a) As I was on the forming committee b) Currently not living in
 Uganda. c) Too busy by far. 

 ** **

 This role is to me similar to the idea we came up with some months ago
 for OPTA, and the goals of that organisation I think could be filled by the
 LUG Committee/Chair.

 ** **

 When are you next in town? Would be happy to setup a meeting with some

Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter C. Ndikuwera
Ok, so if I paid an annual fee right now, I could spend the next 12 months
and not have any recognizable accreditation since the association is still
in childhood state, right?

--
Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.


On 10 October 2013 19:06, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter,

 Whilst we do not as yet have a formal charter, it is one thing we would
 like members to create and eventually adhere too.

 I seem to be copy and pasting the website.
 http://ictau.ug/general-benefits/

 The General benefits of being a member of ICTAU include the following;

- Strong Avenue for competitive  networks
- Widest communication coverage via the ICTAU mailing list
- Social capital engine
- Jobline opportunities for members
- Platform for sharing success stories and management experience
- Source for highly skilled and competent persons
- Safeguard interests of institutions
- Access to information
- Posting information on mailing for wider reach
- Clarification of true identity
- Organized addresses, databases for research and easy access to
members


 In order for us to perform some of the above roles we would need to
 accredit and check the qualifications of the members. So in answer at the
 moment the accreditation is being done by us. Eventually we will make it
 both an national and hopefully an internationally recognized accreditation.
 We are recognized by both the Ministry of ICT and NITA(U) and have their
 blessings and support. Again how ever this is a little like a chicken and
 egg scenario we need members to help shape and form the type of
 organisation we want to be and continue to be. In much the same way the Law
 Society or other professional bodies are shaped by their members.


 Simon




 On 10 October 2013 17:51, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read the whole table perhaps I just don't understand what the benefit
 of accreditation - by whom? as whom? - and branding is. Especially for
 an organization that's still growing.

 Is this accreditation by the in-crowd? Is an ICTAU accreditation a
 benefit anywhere in the world?

 P.

 --
 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable
 events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one
 is given credit.


 On 10 October 2013 18:32, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hmmm clearly that table needs some work, as it obviously is not clear
 enough. Let me flag it for an edit.


 On 10 October 2013 17:27, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

 Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just
 cannot justify it.. 

 ** **

 Kind Regards 

   

 Peter Atkin FBCS

 +256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu | *LinkedIn 
 Profilehttp://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin
 *

 ** **

 *From:* lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] *On
 Behalf Of *Peter C. Ndikuwera
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:18 PM
 *To:* Uganda Linux User Group
 *Subject:* Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 ** **

 I think my issue is I don't feel the benefits are clear. 10 million for
 company subscription?


 

 --

 Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable
 events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one
 is given credit.

 ** **

 On 10 October 2013 18:11, Kyle Spencer k...@stormzero.com wrote:

 Sanga,

 I'm also a founding member though, like Simon, am not super active in
 its operations. It's early days but I believe it has potential so long as
 everyone's voices (i.e. industry, community, etc) are fairly represented
 when lobbying and other ICTAU related activites occur.

 Simon Kaheru acts as the frontman along with Boaz Shani and Albert Muc.
 

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 10, 2013 6:02 PM, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sanga,

 ** **

 As the former acting PRO I should probably give answering your query a
 go.

 ** **

 The idea of the ICTAU is to form a associate membership body for IT
 professionals across the breadth of the IT Sector in Uganda. Your exactly
 the type of person we would like to have in the organisation. Someone who
 has good practical experience of working in IT and has an interest in
 improving and expanding the IT Sector in Uganda.

 ** **

 It is early days so I can not say we have achieved vast amount, how
 ever we do already have good and close ties within the IT Industry and
 Government. One key role is to be able to actually lobby government
 effectively about issues facing our industry. As someone who has been
 outspoken about various issues on this forum, your voice would be an
 invaluable one to add. Especially in adding a practical knowledge of Open
 Source Solutions and how they can best suit Uganda. One role we have

Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 05:54:01 PM 
billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation. We need to
 money in part to better promote and sustain the ICTAU.
 We have reached out in certain cases to offer gratis
 members for example the committee chair for the LUG and
 various other non-profits, but we can't sustain it on
 good will alone.

 As an active member of AFNOG there would be a case to be
 made under that banner, but it would need board
 approval.

I suppose the point I was trying to make is that there are a 
lot of organizations and entities that are willing to put in 
seed money into bodies such as ICTAU that make their case, 
which would allow you to focus on the business of meeting 
your objective, to a level where sponsorship can fall away 
and the body can sustain itself through more conventional 
means such as membership fees.

If ICTAU have no credibility yet, it will be hard to rope 
participation in, let alone membership fees. Not saying it's 
not impossible, just a little harder.

Mark.


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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Simon Vass
Mark,

Agreed. I think one thing the founder members felt was doing it the 'hard'
way was preferable. Not to caste dispersion's but sometimes when you go the
seeded route there is no incentive to go from that to becoming a membership
funded org. I think we have all seen plenty of examples of that in Uganda.
But yes it does open us up to the claim that until we prove ourselves why
join.

* Thus far we have gotten the association registered
* Formed an organizing committee
* Reached out and met with NITA(U),MoICT
* Reached out to various members of the ICT Community such as Hive Colab,
Outbox etc
* Helped organize this years UIGF
* Attended the Orange Expo last year
* Hired a administrator to help run the secretariat.

Also I'd like to think we have some credibility maybe not with everyone,
but with a growing member of the ICT Community in Uganda.

That having been said we do have a lot more to do. Which is where I want to
take the conversation next. What would you as Mark Tinka like to see the
association do? What would be of value to you? How can we overcome some of
the obstacles facing the ICT Sector in Uganda? How do we help make Uganda a
ICT Hub of Excellence? How can we improve the level of ICT Education?

Simon




On 10 October 2013 18:45, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 05:54:01 PM
 billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

  It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation. We need to
  money in part to better promote and sustain the ICTAU.
  We have reached out in certain cases to offer gratis
  members for example the committee chair for the LUG and
  various other non-profits, but we can't sustain it on
  good will alone.

  As an active member of AFNOG there would be a case to be
  made under that banner, but it would need board
  approval.

 I suppose the point I was trying to make is that there are a
 lot of organizations and entities that are willing to put in
 seed money into bodies such as ICTAU that make their case,
 which would allow you to focus on the business of meeting
 your objective, to a level where sponsorship can fall away
 and the body can sustain itself through more conventional
 means such as membership fees.

 If ICTAU have no credibility yet, it will be hard to rope
 participation in, let alone membership fees. Not saying it's
 not impossible, just a little harder.

 Mark.

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Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter Atkin
Just to add my thoughts right or wrong

 

I'm an accredited Fellow of the British Computer Society, which  is a member
institution of Engineering Council UK is therefore responsible for
regulation of ICT and computer science fields within the UK, it's quite
recognised and  one can clearly see the benefits, in my case it adds status
and credibility to who I am and what I do, even as a fellow it's only
$145.00 a year to maintain my membership.

 

Being that the ICTAU is so new and how people are judged to be competent or
not seems very much at the whimsy of the board it's hard to see where this
may be going, it's a good idea in principle but the costs seem OTT given the
apparent  lack of credibility , how and who decides where this money is
going , how will it be used to better the ICT body,  increases awareness and
ultimately legitimize its status, what's in place to stop someone from just
buying status.

 

I have visited the ICTAU Site while looks OK albeit  light on information,
almost no information on the process behind the organization again in stark
contrast to the BCS site, while I know that the ICTAU is new it should at
least make public its members, process, meetings etc, or that what I would
have thought.

 

Have a look at the BCS http://www.bcs.org site everything is clear and
concise 

 

This is not meant as a downer but if you expect people to pay money you have
to justify it, as a test case believe  I would fall under  either

-  Individuals - Corporate @200,000/= which is what about $75.00

-  Or PRIVATE COMPANIES/ CORPRATIONS Level 3 @1,000,000 which is
about $380.00 membership I still want to know how and why you do things.

as would most members would be my guess.

 

I would have thought that starting this up a little lower key getting some
traction then going for the bright lights later may have been a better move,
now ICTAU is  faced with somehow getting loads of money to maintain itself
or face extinction, and that would not be good for the credibility of ICT
field here, Uganda needs this in my view.

 

Kind Regards 

  

Peter Atkin FBCS

+256-772-700781 |  Skype: peter2cfu |
http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin LinkedIn Profile

 

From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of
billyn...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:06 PM
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

 

Peter,

 

Whilst we do not as yet have a formal charter, it is one thing we would like
members to create and eventually adhere too. 

 

I seem to be copy and pasting the website. http://ictau.ug/general-benefits/

 

The General benefits of being a member of ICTAU include the following;

. Strong Avenue for competitive  networks

. Widest communication coverage via the ICTAU mailing list

. Social capital engine

. Jobline opportunities for members

. Platform for sharing success stories and management experience

. Source for highly skilled and competent persons

. Safeguard interests of institutions

. Access to information

. Posting information on mailing for wider reach

. Clarification of true identity

. Organized addresses, databases for research and easy access to
members

 

In order for us to perform some of the above roles we would need to accredit
and check the qualifications of the members. So in answer at the moment the
accreditation is being done by us. Eventually we will make it both an
national and hopefully an internationally recognized accreditation. We are
recognized by both the Ministry of ICT and NITA(U) and have their blessings
and support. Again how ever this is a little like a chicken and egg scenario
we need members to help shape and form the type of organisation we want to
be and continue to be. In much the same way the Law Society or other
professional bodies are shaped by their members.

 

 

Simon

 

 

 

On 10 October 2013 17:51, Peter C. Ndikuwera pnd...@gmail.com wrote:

I read the whole table perhaps I just don't understand what the benefit of
accreditation - by whom? as whom? - and branding is. Especially for an
organization that's still growing.

 

Is this accreditation by the in-crowd? Is an ICTAU accreditation a benefit
anywhere in the world?

 

P.




--

Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given
credit.

 

On 10 October 2013 18:32, billyn...@gmail.com billyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hmmm clearly that table needs some work, as it obviously is not clear
enough. Let me flag it for an edit.

 

On 10 October 2013 17:27, Peter Atkin peter.at...@cfts.co wrote:

Same here cannot see the benefit for us, with a 10,000,000 price just cannot
justify it.. 

 

Kind Regards 

  

Peter Atkin FBCS

+256-772-700781 tel:%2B256-772-700781  |  Skype: peter2cfu |
http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratkin LinkedIn

Re: [LUG] ICTAU worth it?

2013-10-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 07:01:09 PM Simon Vass wrote:

 That having been said we do have a lot more to do. Which
 is where I want to take the conversation next. What
 would you as Mark Tinka like to see the association do?
 What would be of value to you? How can we overcome some
 of the obstacles facing the ICT Sector in Uganda? How do
 we help make Uganda a ICT Hub of Excellence? How can we
 improve the level of ICT Education?

I'm happy to join ICTAU and contribute, just as I contribute 
on various other organizations in our Internet community. 

As with the other bodies, I don't mind not being paid 
provided what we're doing for the wananchi is not in 
conflict, but I'm not sure I'm ready to pay to contribute my 
time :-).

Mark.


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