[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany
On Apr 17, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Re the German Lute Society's Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique und Zugleich der Composition, Rob wrote: Is there any possibility that this will be translated into English? It comes with an English booklet. Here are some excerpts of a review I wrote in the LSA Quarterly a while ago: The manuscript, housed in recent years in the Prague University Library and the Lobkovicz family library in Rudnice, has been considered a significant source of information about playing continuo on the d-minor-tuned baroque lute. But it's at once both more and less than that. For modern readers, it's a different way of looking at music. Most of us learn continuo, if at all, as a sort of addendum to technique and theory, part of our understanding of how the key system works. The Fundamenta shows a musical culture in which continuo was an organic, integral part, even though musicians still thought modally. * * * The book begins with the very basics -- the lute's strings, the notes of the scale -- and proceeds into harmony, a bit of counterpoint, and a few elements of composition. Along the way it explains and gives examples of harmonic progressions and continuo notation, including such fine points as how to elaborate the treble line to avoid (or disguise) parallel fifths and octaves. It explains preparation and resolution of dissonances, and how specific chords come about and where they lead. It gives capsule descriptions of musical forms (overture, slow and quick allemandes, courante, air, bourree, rigaudon, gavotte, minuet, sarabande, rondeau, canarie, passepied, gigue, march) and then offers preludes to demonstrate how to play in the usable keys. It ends, a bit anticlimactically, with illustrations of the eight clefs a musician was likely to encounter. All musical examples are given in on two parallel staves, one in continuo notation (bass clef with figures) and the other in tablature. The result is a good look at what continuo notation meant to the author, and it's often surprising. The book is downright capricious about the octave in which the bass part sounds. Where the continuo part goes from second-space C to second-line B and back, the tablature part takes the C's down an octave on the lowest (11th) course, so the line jumps a ninth twice instead of going up and down a semitone. This, like many such instances, maximizes use of open strings, but elsewhere the line is just as capriciously taken up an octave. There is a similarly free attitude about whether to play reiterated bass notes. A major surprise is the variety and complexity of the realized parts. Above the continuo line, the tablature shows arpeggiations, melodic elaborations, and moments of free fantasy. There is little explanation in the text of what this all means. The author may have been offering a manual for improvisation, giving the continuo line as a harmonic framework. Or he may have been suggesting a free and creative approach to playing continuo. * * * The text is spare, even cryptic, as if the author were being charged by the word. If I understand the editors correctly, the original is mostly in Latin, with a few Germanisms and an occasional German passage. The main volume has the original text and a parallel column with Mathias R=F6sel's German translation and editorial notes. An English translation of the Latin (also by R=F6sel) is in a separate booklet, which has marginal references to the page in the main volume but no tablature or staff illustrations, so the English reader must toggle back and forth between books. The editors try to make the task easier with marginal notes keying the English text to two sets of page numbers: those of the main volume and those of the original manuscript folios (which are printed in the main volume's text). This feature would be more of a convenience if the cross-references were always correct, which they aren't. The English version lacks, for the most part, the German version's explanatory notes. It suffers from occasional awkwardness of the sort that could have been avoided by having a native English speaker read it before publication (Some of the abbreviations could not be dissolved because of bad legibility. After all these rules have been aforesaid now follows their execution.). Other passages can be sticky because the linguistic concepts are strange (concert becomes pleasant according to fantasy), and R=F6sel apparently wants to avoid imposing his own views on the text. The bottom line is that this is a German book, not an English one, and it shows. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique
After I quoted parts of my review of Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique und Zugleich der Composition someone asked if the shortcomings of the English fascicle were such that I'd recommend against buying it. The answer is a qualified no. It's a valuable book, offered for a mere 15 Euros, and anyone who wants to play continuo in d minor should have it. And as long as Mathias was being, as he put it, shameless, he might have offered a few words about how to order it from the Deutsche Lautengesellschaft. I just took a quick look at its web site, and it wasn't obvious. The cross-referencing glitches and the occasional translation awkwardness are annoyances, but will not prevent a native English speaker from figuring out what's going on. But for someone whose English skills are not good, it may be another story. So I wouldn't recommend Fundamenta for George W. Bush. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies
Dear Matteo, The director of the play that I am meant to be playing for has heard the Naxos CD and wants that version of the song. I couldn't find it either in any of Robert Jones's printed books and presumed that it was in a MS source, which is why I contacted the list in the hope that someone knew where to find it. I've sent an email to Dorothy Linnell and I'll let you know what she says... Best wishes, Peter -Original Message- From: Matteo Turri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2008 18:29 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies I'm puzzled. Actually, it seems that there IS a setting by Robert Jones. I just stumbled upon Naxos' new releases and the CD Music for Shakespear's Theatre contains the song Sigh no more ladies by Robert Jones. You can listen to it here: http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=59 And you can compare it to the setting by Ford: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/details06MP3.asp?CNumber=SDL%20409 I don't understand. A song with that title it's not in the Song Books by Jones - see their whole content here: http://kulturserver-bayern.de/home/harald-lillmeyer/Texte/Downloads/Downloads.html and it's not cited in most recent edition of the Grove online. Peter, if you are really interested in the setting of Jones, I would suggest you to contact the artists of the Naxos CD, the lutenist Dorothy Linell (she has a site on the web) or the tenor Gerald Place to ask them for the source. Let me (us) know. I'm very curious. On Monday 14 April 2008 12:30:46 Matteo turri wrote: Actually, the setting is by Thomas Ford. It is found in a setting for three voices in MUS. 736-8 at Christ Church, Oxford, which appears to be an adaptation of a solo song - see http://library.chch.ox.ac.uk/music/page.php?set=Mus.+736--8 There is a recording of the song in the CD Songs and Dances from Shakespeare, by the broadside Band (Saydisc CD-SDL409). The CD notes say that the MS version was printed in Gibbon, John Murray, 1930, The Melody and the Lyric. The notes also make reference to a restoration of Peter Warlock published in 1925. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 14.04.2008 11:54 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Sigh No More Ladies Dear All, I've been asked to play Sigh No More Ladies for a production of Much Ado. Isn't there a version by Robert Jones? Does anyone have a copy of the music that they might be able to send me? Or can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Peter Peter Jones | Room 23 | BBC Maida Vale | 0207 765 2207 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Jetzt neu: Der Routenplaner von Tiscali http://www.tiscali.de/trav/routenplaner.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
The problem being, this garbage gets recycled! BTW To a player, maybe long-neck lutes continuo (into infinity)! BTW 2 The 'Continuo' link leads to a French language Lycos-page. Sorry to disappoint you guys... Whatever it had has been removed. Ron (UK) Steve Kenyon wrote... There's more garbage in that one short article than you get on our local tip in a year. Rob MacKillop wrote: This page left me speechless: http://www.kiltmagazine.com/KiltMagMusic0305.html - does anyone know this guy? He even 'quotes' me - I said no such thing. And it's good to have confirmation that Dowland was in fact born in Dublin! - something I've always hoped for. I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies
Another possibility is to use a ballad tune. Ross w. Duffin in his excelllant Shakespeare's Somgbook suggested a number of tunes that would fit the text, including Lusty Gallant and Rogero, both of which fit very well. All the best Mark -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Peter Jones-RR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. April 2008 09:52 An: Matteo Turri Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies Dear Matteo, The director of the play that I am meant to be playing for has heard the Naxos CD and wants that version of the song. I couldn't find it either in any of Robert Jones's printed books and presumed that it was in a MS source, which is why I contacted the list in the hope that someone knew where to find it. I've sent an email to Dorothy Linnell and I'll let you know what she says... Best wishes, Peter -Original Message- From: Matteo Turri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2008 18:29 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies I'm puzzled. Actually, it seems that there IS a setting by Robert Jones. I just stumbled upon Naxos' new releases and the CD Music for Shakespear's Theatre contains the song Sigh no more ladies by Robert Jones. You can listen to it here: http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=59 And you can compare it to the setting by Ford: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/details06MP3.asp?CNumber=SDL%20409 I don't understand. A song with that title it's not in the Song Books by Jones - see their whole content here: http://kulturserver-bayern.de/home/harald-lillmeyer/Texte/Downloads/Download s.html and it's not cited in most recent edition of the Grove online. Peter, if you are really interested in the setting of Jones, I would suggest you to contact the artists of the Naxos CD, the lutenist Dorothy Linell (she has a site on the web) or the tenor Gerald Place to ask them for the source. Let me (us) know. I'm very curious. On Monday 14 April 2008 12:30:46 Matteo turri wrote: Actually, the setting is by Thomas Ford. It is found in a setting for three voices in MUS. 736-8 at Christ Church, Oxford, which appears to be an adaptation of a solo song - see http://library.chch.ox.ac.uk/music/page.php?set=Mus.+736--8 There is a recording of the song in the CD Songs and Dances from Shakespeare, by the broadside Band (Saydisc CD-SDL409). The CD notes say that the MS version was printed in Gibbon, John Murray, 1930, The Melody and the Lyric. The notes also make reference to a restoration of Peter Warlock published in 1925. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 14.04.2008 11:54 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Sigh No More Ladies Dear All, I've been asked to play Sigh No More Ladies for a production of Much Ado. Isn't there a version by Robert Jones? Does anyone have a copy of the music that they might be able to send me? Or can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Peter Peter Jones | Room 23 | BBC Maida Vale | 0207 765 2207 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Jetzt neu: Der Routenplaner von Tiscali http://www.tiscali.de/trav/routenplaner.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
Just a thought - maybe he is one of us? The Phantom Lurker? I was going to write to him and the guy who wrote the article, but thought better of it. We reap what we sow. It's not the first time I've had quotation remarks around comments I never made. Seems to be the way reporters work. Nothing to be gained by picking a fight. Oh dear...I'm getting old! Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
Kohut... ? Could he be a misspelt reincarnation of Kohaut ? ;-))) Jean-Marie === 16-04-2008 23:28:48 === This page left me speechless: http://www.kiltmagazine.com/KiltMagMusic0305.html - does anyone know this guy? He even 'quotes' me - I said no such thing. And it's good to have confirmation that Dowland was in fact born in Dublin! - something I've always hoped for. I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 17-04-2008
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
This happens to me all the time in my day job. They take something from prior articles or even my webpage, put quotes around it and make it look as though they did an exclusive face to face interview. As long as what they quote is actually true to what you have said, I think you have minimal recourse unless taken wildly out of context. (eg Reporter: as a pedophile, what meal do you like to feed a child on a date? Rob replied 6 course) DS On Apr 17, 2008, at 4:26 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Just a thought - maybe he is one of us? The Phantom Lurker? I was going to write to him and the guy who wrote the article, but thought better of it. We reap what we sow. It's not the first time I've had quotation remarks around comments I never made. Seems to be the way reporters work. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Ooooh, I have remembered, the last time I mentioned lawyers, all the lutists on our list turned out to be barristers, I mentioned bows and lutes, and everyone was an archer, gun-buts and lutes and up popped a few lute playing gun-smiths. How many reporter-lutists do we have lurking on our list? Jim Stimson works (or at least worked) for the Washington Post. But don't quote me on that! DS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] continuo playing in Germany
Dear lute players, I am new in this forum. I would like to have information about lute continuo playing in Germany at the end of XVII century. Many sources of solo lute music are in d tuning but I don't find continuo sources which speak about the appropriated instruments and tunings used at that time. Can anybody help me? Many thanks! Rodrigo -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
With such things, it's hard to tell how much misinformation can be attributed to Kohut or to the article's author. It's not uncommon for me to be misquoted. ...Although the MacKillop quote seems pretty damning. This guy is evidently a paddler too, his e-mail involving kayak. I'll look forward to Kohut's exposee on the origins of the beaver-tale paddle blade. Eugene At 05:28 PM 4/16/2008, Rob MacKillop wrote: This page left me speechless: http://www.kiltmagazine.com/KiltMagMusic0305.html - does anyone know this guy? He even 'quotes' me - I said no such thing. And it's good to have confirmation that Dowland was in fact born in Dublin! - something I've always hoped for. I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
Dear Daniel, Rob, and All: Yes, I work at the Washington Post, although nowadays I'm mostly an editor. There are many kinds of reporters. One is a new breed of Internet or blog reporter, who functions without journalism training or editorial oversight. Perhaps he (or she) is a reporter simply because he calls himself one. I began my training in eighth grade. In college I had to take a First Amendment and media law course before I could take my first journalism class. At the Washington Post there had generally been three layers of editors reviewing a story before it appeared; today it is being compressed into two touches. Fact-checking takes time, and editors must be paid, so accurate reporting is time- and labor-intensive. Today's blogosphere, which rewards unschooled right-wing loudmouths who spew half-truths and worse, has no interest in that. In short, you get what you pay for. Online articles are sometimes by non- experts and are not edited, but they're free. Everyone wants things free nowadays but complains when it does not meet their standards of accuracy. Cheers, Jim From: Daniel Shoskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/17 Thu AM 06:05:49 CDT To: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aarrrgg!!! On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Ooooh, I have remembered, the last time I mentioned lawyers, all the lutists on our list turned out to be barristers, I mentioned bows and lutes, and everyone was an archer, gun-buts and lutes and up popped a few lute playing gun-smiths. How many reporter-lutists do we have lurking on our list? Jim Stimson works (or at least worked) for the Washington Post. But don't quote me on that! DS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
Dear Jim, et. al., While this is not the forum for political rantings, I can not in good conscience let some of these comments go unanswered. And you, Jim, also know that I respect you and consider you a friend even though we have some fundamental disagreements on this topic. Which is why we never discuss politics but only make music, something we can both agree wholeheartedly on and that transcends politics. Jim wrote: Fact-checking takes time, and editors must be paid, so accurate reporting is time- and labor-intensive. Today's blogosphere, which rewards unschooled right-wing loudmouths who spew half-truths and worse, has no interest in that. To be truthful, and after all isn't that what we all want, this is not limited only to the right wing blogoshpere, nor the right wing as a whole. There are many on the left who are rewarded quite handsomely for publishing their half truths and lies. Film makers who produce alleged documentaries and former Vice Presidents who claim to have invented the Internet and be the Fount of All Knowledge regarding global warming come immediately to mind. In short, you get what you pay for. Online articles are sometimes by non- experts and are not edited, but they're free. Everyone wants things free nowadays but complains when it does not meet their standards of accuracy
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
On Apr 17, 2008, at 8:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fact-checking takes time, and editors must be paid, so accurate reporting is time- and labor-intensive. Today's blogosphere, which rewards unschooled right-wing loudmouths who spew half-truths and worse, has no interest in that. As opposed to the highly respectable national and international media, all of which reward news whether it be from right- or left- wing loudmouths well-schooled enough in how to sell it. In short, you get what you pay for. You mean the public buys what the media sell. I think there's a fundamental difference between telling the news, and selling it. Online articles are sometimes by non- experts So are many newspaper articles. and are not edited, but they're free. Everyone wants things free nowadays but complains when it does not meet their standards of accuracy. Absolutely! And rightly so. Just because it's free doesn't mean that I can't complain about the spread of misinformation. DR [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
in Czech - Kohaut/Kohout in Slovak - Kohut / Kohút = Coq = Hahn = Cock Petr T. -Original Message- From: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:22 AM To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Re: Aarrrgg!!! Kohut... ? Could he be a misspelt reincarnation of Kohaut ? ;-))) Jean-Marie === 16-04-2008 23:28:48 === This page left me speechless: http://www.kiltmagazine.com/KiltMagMusic0305.html - does anyone know this guy? He even 'quotes' me - I said no such thing. And it's good to have confirmation that Dowland was in fact born in Dublin! - something I've always hoped for. I don't know whether to laugh or cry... Rob MacKillop www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 17-04-2008
[LUTE] ATTAINGNANT Heartz
Does any body know whether Daniel Heartz' Preludes, chansons and dances for lute, published by Pierre ATTAINGNANT contains both the tablature and analysis of this music, or specifically the analyses. Anthony To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] OT: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Fact-checking takes time, and editors must be paid, so accurate reporting is time- and labor-intensive. Today's blogosphere, which rewards unschooled right-wing loudmouths who spew half-truths and worse, has no interest in that. To be truthful, and after all isn't that what we all want, this is not limited only to the right wing blogoshpere, nor the right wing as a whole. Evidently it extends to people on this list. There are many on the left who are rewarded quite handsomely for publishing their half truths and lies. Film makers who produce alleged documentaries and former Vice Presidents who claim to have invented the Internet For the benefit of those outside the USA, the reference is to Al Gore, who when he was vice president of the United States, told Wolf Blitzer of CNN in a March 9, 1999 interview: During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. This is a statement that, as a legislator, he had pushed for creation of the internet, not a statement that he personally invented it. But it was very deliberately mischaracterized by Gore's political enemies (of which he soon had many, since he was running for president) who said, obviously without quoting what Gore actually said (just as Craig did here), that Gore claimed to have invented the internet. This was, alas, not confined to the blogosphere. Americans are not sophisticated consumers of information, and are easily lied to. Oddly enough, Gore did say he personally invented an instrument called the continuo. Though the Gore says he invented the internet story is not so much an urban legend as an outright lie, it's dealt with at the Snopes.com web site, which investigates and reports on urban legends. I recommend it: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Sorry for the interruption. Back to lutes. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Less OT: Reportage
A propos of the Snopes Urban legend web site, I meant to mention that you can find a debunking of a truly idiotic story (a column in the Houston Chronicle) about Itzhak Perlman playing an entire concerto on three strings at: http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/perlman.asp To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: OT: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
At 12:52 PM 4/17/2008, howard posner wrote: Americans are not sophisticated consumers of information, and are easily lied to. Rather than Americans, I think you mean human beings in general...but not necessarily lutenists...maybe...? Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Sigh No More Ladies
Dear Peter, Beauty sat bathing was also set by Francis Pilkington, with a rather nice Hey nonny refrain in slow motion. You might prefer Pilkington's setting to Jones. Presumably the words of Sigh no more ladies would fit both settings equally well. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: Peter Jones-RR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2008 10:48 To: Matteo Turri Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Sigh No More Ladies I've just had an email from Gerald Place, who is the tenor who sings Sigh No More Ladies on the new Naxos CD of music from Shakespeare. The version they sing is actually Beauty Sat Bathing by Robert Jones from Book III Ultima Vale, but the words of Sigh No More fit perfectly. I'm putting arr. Gerald Place in my programme... Best wishes, Peter To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!
On Apr 17, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: I was going to write to him and the guy who wrote the article, but thought better of it. We reap what we sow. It's not the first time I've had quotation remarks around comments I never made. Seems to be the way reporters work. Nothing to be gained by picking a fight. You can write to explain that you never said what what's attributed to you, or that you said something different, without picking a fight. Just saw your intriguing and well-written article, but -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: OT: Reportage (was Re: Aarrrgghhhh!!!)
American credulity is proverbial. Hence Mark Twain's dictum Believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see!. RT At 12:52 PM 4/17/2008, howard posner wrote: Americans are not sophisticated consumers of information, and are easily lied to. Rather than Americans, I think you mean human beings in general...but not necessarily lutenists...maybe...? Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany
rodrigo demetrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear lute players, I am new in this forum. I would like to have information about lute continuo playing in Germany at the end of XVII century. Many sources of solo lute music are in d tuning but I don't find continuo sources which speak about the appropriated instruments and tunings used at that time. Can anybody help me? Many thanks! Rodrigo Please excuse tze shameless ad: Order Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique from Deutsche Lautengesellschaft. It's a tutor for continuo with 11c lute in D minor tuning. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany
Is there any possibility that this will be translated into English? Rob On 17/04/2008, Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please excuse tze shameless ad: Order Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique from Deutsche Lautengesellschaft. It's a tutor for continuo with 11c lute in D minor tuning. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany
Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there any possibility that this will be translated into English? Rob Rainer Luckhardt of Seicento music and I took care that this was done with the 1st edition. The English translation comes as an extra booklet. Mathias Please excuse tze shameless ad: Order Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique from Deutsche Lautengesellschaft. It's a tutor for continuo with 11c lute in D minor tuning. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany
It already is - teh text comes with english translation. Thomas - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: rodrigo demetrio [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: continuo playing in Germany Is there any possibility that this will be translated into English? Rob On 17/04/2008, Mathias R=F6sel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please excuse tze shameless ad: Order Fundamenta der Lauten-Musique from Deutsche Lautengesellschaft. It's a tutor for continuo with 11c lute in D minor tuning. -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] St Matthew Passion
Dear Wisdom, I need to get a good recording of the Matthew Passion. Can any of you suggest one? I have a recording by Harnancourt on vinyl dating from 1970, and it's a marvellous performance, but I think it's time to get an up-to-date recording on CD. Can anyone suggest a good recording? David R [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
