RE: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

[Henry Miller]

 

 

Hi Ann and Chris

 

I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed.

 

I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list 
over the last few months, and my reasons for leaving are that I wish to reduce 
my email traffic.  There is no excuse for foul language, though I can fully 
understand people's frustrations on not being able to unsubscribe.  It is clear 
that the moderator is unable to monitor this list at the moment, and I am 
failing to also unsubscribe.  Perhaps there may be a way to block or reject the 
emails from this list?

 

best wishes to you all

 

Henry

 

 

From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] 
Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

 

 

Hello Chris,

 

Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be:

mac-access-le...@mac-access.net

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 

No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.



On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 

RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

[Henry Miller]

Hi Gordon

Please will you unsubscribe me from this list-thank you.

Regards

Henry
 


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 10:27
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

Good Sunday to all

We should now be back in business as a group, although I have some tweaking 
still to do.  But I hope you’re all well, and receive our call.

Please don’t send “I am here’, or “I see you” to the group.  We just want life 
to resume from where it left off.

Let’s just say we’ve had a spectacular server crash from which we couldn’t 
recover.  So we were forced to make a transition, ready or not!

Kindest regards

Gordon

RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

[Henry Miller]

Hello list

I have been trying to contact the moderator of this list to unsubscribe via:

mac-access-ow...@mac-access.net
and
gor...@mac-access.net

only to have my emails returned as undelivered.

Obviously, there is a major problem within the system somewhere so what do
we do next?


Regards

Henry

RE: [Mac-Access]: Ladies Gentlemen, We Are Back!

[Henry Miller]

Hi Eleanor

Why am I receving three emails from you via this list? Is the moderator not
aware of this problem?

speak soon

Henry


-Original Message-
From: Eleanor Martha Burke [mailto:eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 24 May 2015 18:25
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Ladies  Gentlemen, We Are Back!

you are creating your own spam on the list.



 On 24 May 2015, at 18:00, Angela Delicata angeladelic...@email.it wrote:
 
 Please, remove me as well.
 Thanks in advance.
 Angela from Italy
 
 
 Il 24/05/2015 13:43, sadam ahmed ha scritto:
 Hi Gordon,
 
 I am writing this email to ask you to remove me from this list.
 
 If you could remove me as soon as possible it would be greatly
appreciated.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Email:
 
 sadamahmed1...@icloud.com
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

I would also like to know how to achieve this task.

Best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 28 March 2015 21:02
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App

Hi Chris,
That sounds good, you could send me the steps, and I should be good to go 
with that.
Thanks much.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


Glenn,

You are! aware, are you not, that if you don't like typing your e-mail
address, you can set up a shortcut, so you would type for example, GPEM,
which stands for Glenn's personal E-mail.  Then, once you hit the space
bar, it would expand to your entire e-mail address.

Let me know if you'd like some help setting this up.

Chris.
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http://www.clgproductions.net
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Be My Eyes App


 Hi,
 I was just wondering, from the users of the Be My Eyes app on IOS.
 Should one have to put in their eMail and password each time we use it?
 For those who have difficulty typing on their device, it makes it useless,
 and I'm not fond of typing in my eMail and password each time I use it.
 I have worked with others to use it successfully, and they have had to
 enter
 their information each time.
 I tried mine today, and it has been so long since I used it, I don't even
 remember which eMail account I used on it.
 Thanks for any feedback.
 Glenn

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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi Diane

I have a similar problem with my right command keynot working in conjunction
with other modifier keys-please could you tell me where I correct this
problem?

Kind regards

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomare
Sent: 26 March 2015 14:00
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

Margaret,
The problem I was having on my Mac, is that my right command key will not
work for this or any other hotkey that uses command as a modifer. That was
the default setting on my Mac, and though I think that I know where to
change it, I have not. The right command key works as expected for
command-tab. 

In order to copy text, try holding down the shift while using down arrow to
move to the bottom of the information you wish to copy. Then immediately,
try the left command key-C. The system should say copy. At that point,
command-tab to the file, in which you wish to enter the copied text. Hit
left-command-v.

Let me know if this works, for you.
Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2015, at 21:13, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:

Can someone tell me how to select and copy text off a web page in Safari
using my mac book pro. I have tried to to select and copy text off a web
page but it doesn't work. 

Margaret 


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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 26 March 2015 20:19
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a mac

1. Launch vo utility with vo f8.
2. navigate to commanders.
3. vo right to keyboard and press spce
4. navigate to the setting to control the option keys.

Take care

 On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Diane
 
 I have a similar problem with my right command keynot working in
conjunction
 with other modifier keys-please could you tell me where I correct this
 problem?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomare
 Sent: 26 March 2015 14:00
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting and copying text of a web page on a
mac
 
 Margaret,
 The problem I was having on my Mac, is that my right command key will not
 work for this or any other hotkey that uses command as a modifer. That was
 the default setting on my Mac, and though I think that I know where to
 change it, I have not. The right command key works as expected for
 command-tab. 
 
 In order to copy text, try holding down the shift while using down arrow
to
 move to the bottom of the information you wish to copy. Then immediately,
 try the left command key-C. The system should say copy. At that point,
 command-tab to the file, in which you wish to enter the copied text. Hit
 left-command-v.
 
 Let me know if this works, for you.
 Diane Bomar
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 21:13, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Can someone tell me how to select and copy text off a web page in Safari
 using my mac book pro. I have tried to to select and copy text off a web
 page but it doesn't work. 
 
 Margaret 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
-it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?

best wishes

Henry
   


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never 
like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will 
deliver what you want.

  In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list, 
with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the 
first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This 
is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key 
without even having to open the message.
In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open messages
I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like 
this feature and  find it a time saver.
As I say
you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue 
cursoing down to next message.

If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO 
J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.

Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first 
message you try to read.

The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down 
function for navigating long text emails.


David Griffith
The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to 
interact  first.
five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually 
then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's 
mail boxl wrote:
 Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
 Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
 who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
 Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each
colum
 at a time.
 Cheers Michael.a
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

[Henry Miller]

Hi David and Sarah

Many thanks I overlooked the view within the preferences.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 January 2015 19:08
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

In Mail preferences under view there is a check box for classic view.

If you check this you are in classic view.
If you uncheck it you will be in the default modern view.

David Griffith

On 25/01/2015 13:48, Henry Miller wrote:

 Hi David

 Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
 -it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?

 best wishes

 Henry
 


 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

 It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never
 like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will
 deliver what you want.

In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list,
 with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the
 first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This
 is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key
 without even having to open the message.
 In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open
messages
 I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like
 this feature and  find it a time saver.
 As I say
 you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue
 cursoing down to next message.

 If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO
 J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.

 Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first
 message you try to read.

 The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down
 function for navigating long text emails.


 David Griffith
 The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to
 interact  first.
 five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually
 then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's
 mail boxl wrote:
 Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
 Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
 who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
 Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each
 colum
 at a time.
 Cheers Michael.a
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Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

[Henry Miller]

Hi David and Sarah 

Many thanks for the info.  When I change the default player to VLC in order to 
play an MP3 file which is in my download folder, will VLC also be the default 
player for ITunes?

best wishes

Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 07 January 2015 03:58
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

Actually tha'ts different.

1. navigate to an mp3
2. hit cmd option I
3. navigate to opens with and expand it if it is closed.
4. navigate to the pop up and choose the app you want.
5. navigate to change all and  conferm it.

Hth.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:04 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have already put instructions on how to do this on list a few times, most 
 recently just before Christmas but briefly again.
 
 1. Find an mp3 file in Finder.
 2. Bring up file properties with command I.
 3. tab into the scroll area until you find the open with  button.
 4. Navigate across the open with dialogue until you find the  recommended 
 apps button. Press this and change this to all apps.
 5. Now navigate back to the list of applications, interact and select VLC 
 from the available apps.
 6. Check the box which asks if you want to make this apply to all files like 
 this.
 7. Now navigate down to the change all button and hit this. It is this final 
 step which makes VLC the default player for mp3 files.   
 8. Close the properties windows with command W.
 
 David Griffith/
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 18:14, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your explanation with regards to stopping ITunes 
 automatically playing a downloaded MP3 file.  I have listened to your very 
 informative podcast on VLC, but owing to my serious hearing loss I find it 
 extremely difficult sometimes to follow instructions when two voices are 
 speaking at the same time i.e. VO and the presenter of the Podcast.
 
 very best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 06 January 2015 17:05
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace
 
 1. Open Safari.
 2. Press command comma to open Safari preferences.
 3. Go to the General tab and then VO space on that.
 4. Navigate down until you hear 
 Open “safe” files after downloading checked checkbox
 Press vo space on that to clear the checkbox and then command W to close the 
 preferences pane.
 
 if you listen to the Podcast I did on using Vlc as a Radio Player you will 
 hear in that how to change filetype associations so that files will play in 
 VLC.
 
 David Griffith
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 15:32, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 Running the latest Yosemite and ITunes on my Mac Book Pro, and I am
 downloading podcasts from Sendspace  and encountering the following:
 
 I successfully download a podcast on to my Mac book pro.  The download is
 successful , but, ITunes immediately and automatically starts to play the
 downloaded MP3 file-please can you explain step by step how I can prevent
 this from happening following a download?
 
 Secondly, when I highlight the downloaded MP3 file in my downloads folder
 and open the context menu and arrow down to open with sub menu is there a
 way I can add VLC to this list? I note that there is an option called
 other in this sub menu but I then get lost trying to navigate the screen
 when I press enter on this item.  VLC is already downloaded and in my
 applications folder.  
 
 Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Many thanks for the instructions, I obviously missed your previous emails.

Regards

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 06 January 2015 21:05
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

I have already put instructions on how to do this on list a few times, most 
recently just before Christmas but briefly again.

1. Find an mp3 file in Finder.
2. Bring up file properties with command I.
3. tab into the scroll area until you find the open with  button.
4. Navigate across the open with dialogue until you find the  recommended apps 
button. Press this and change this to all apps.
5. Now navigate back to the list of applications, interact and select VLC from 
the available apps.
6. Check the box which asks if you want to make this apply to all files like 
this.
7. Now navigate down to the change all button and hit this. It is this final 
step which makes VLC the default player for mp3 files.   
 8. Close the properties windows with command W.

David Griffith/
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 18:14, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your explanation with regards to stopping ITunes 
 automatically playing a downloaded MP3 file.  I have listened to your very 
 informative podcast on VLC, but owing to my serious hearing loss I find it 
 extremely difficult sometimes to follow instructions when two voices are 
 speaking at the same time i.e. VO and the presenter of the Podcast.
 
 very best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 06 January 2015 17:05
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace
 
 1. Open Safari.
 2. Press command comma to open Safari preferences.
 3. Go to the General tab and then VO space on that.
 4. Navigate down until you hear 
 Open “safe” files after downloading checked checkbox
 Press vo space on that to clear the checkbox and then command W to close the 
 preferences pane.
 
 if you listen to the Podcast I did on using Vlc as a Radio Player you will 
 hear in that how to change filetype associations so that files will play in 
 VLC.
 
 David Griffith
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 15:32, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 Running the latest Yosemite and ITunes on my Mac Book Pro, and I am
 downloading podcasts from Sendspace  and encountering the following:
 
 I successfully download a podcast on to my Mac book pro.  The download is
 successful , but, ITunes immediately and automatically starts to play the
 downloaded MP3 file-please can you explain step by step how I can prevent
 this from happening following a download?
 
 Secondly, when I highlight the downloaded MP3 file in my downloads folder
 and open the context menu and arrow down to open with sub menu is there a
 way I can add VLC to this list? I note that there is an option called
 other in this sub menu but I then get lost trying to navigate the screen
 when I press enter on this item.  VLC is already downloaded and in my
 applications folder.  
 
 Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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[Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

[Henry Miller]

Hi Everyone

Running the latest Yosemite and ITunes on my Mac Book Pro, and I am
downloading podcasts from Sendspace  and encountering the following:

I successfully download a podcast on to my Mac book pro.  The download is
successful , but, ITunes immediately and automatically starts to play the
downloaded MP3 file-please can you explain step by step how I can prevent
this from happening following a download?

Secondly, when I highlight the downloaded MP3 file in my downloads folder
and open the context menu and arrow down to open with sub menu is there a
way I can add VLC to this list? I note that there is an option called
other in this sub menu but I then get lost trying to navigate the screen
when I press enter on this item.  VLC is already downloaded and in my
applications folder.  

Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated


best wishes

Henry



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Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Many thanks for your explanation with regards to stopping ITunes automatically 
playing a downloaded MP3 file.  I have listened to your very informative 
podcast on VLC, but owing to my serious hearing loss I find it extremely 
difficult sometimes to follow instructions when two voices are speaking at the 
same time i.e. VO and the presenter of the Podcast.

very best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 06 January 2015 17:05
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Downloading MP3 files from Sendspace

1. Open Safari.
2. Press command comma to open Safari preferences.
3. Go to the General tab and then VO space on that.
4. Navigate down until you hear 
Open “safe” files after downloading checked checkbox
Press vo space on that to clear the checkbox and then command W to close the 
preferences pane.

if you listen to the Podcast I did on using Vlc as a Radio Player you will hear 
in that how to change filetype associations so that files will play in VLC.

David Griffith
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 15:32, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 Running the latest Yosemite and ITunes on my Mac Book Pro, and I am
 downloading podcasts from Sendspace  and encountering the following:
 
 I successfully download a podcast on to my Mac book pro.  The download is
 successful , but, ITunes immediately and automatically starts to play the
 downloaded MP3 file-please can you explain step by step how I can prevent
 this from happening following a download?
 
 Secondly, when I highlight the downloaded MP3 file in my downloads folder
 and open the context menu and arrow down to open with sub menu is there a
 way I can add VLC to this list? I note that there is an option called
 other in this sub menu but I then get lost trying to navigate the screen
 when I press enter on this item.  VLC is already downloaded and in my
 applications folder.  
 
 Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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[Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

I am running Yosemite and the latest version of ITunes on a Mac book pro.

When in a long list of songs in ITunes, I am unable to navigate to a
particular song by using the first letter.

Can someone kindly offer a solution?

Best wishes

Henry


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Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi Lewis

Good to hear from you and many thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a
try.  Do you know how I can sort my songs into alphabetical order?

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack
Sent: 03 December 2014 15:43
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on
ITunes

Hi Henry,
You could search for the song by typing the song, artist name, etc in
the Search Box.
Hope this helps.
Lewis.


On 03/12/2014, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:


 Hi

 I am running Yosemite and the latest version of ITunes on a Mac book pro.

 When in a long list of songs in ITunes, I am unable to navigate to a
 particular song by using the first letter.

 Can someone kindly offer a solution?

 Best wishes

 Henry


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Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

I'm so sorry but I do not understand your instructions.

Please could you talk me through step by step?

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 03 December 2014 18:55
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on
ITunes

Hjit th eplay lists button and you shoudl be good to go. It's a grid now so
not fun, but it  works.

Simply vo shift back slash on the music list and choose title button, then
use  the same command to get out of the header menu.
 On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Lewis
 
 Good to hear from you and many thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a
 try.  Do you know how I can sort my songs into alphabetical order?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack
 Sent: 03 December 2014 15:43
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs
on
 ITunes
 
 Hi Henry,
 You could search for the song by typing the song, artist name, etc in
 the Search Box.
 Hope this helps.
 Lewis.
 
 
 On 03/12/2014, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Yosemite and the latest version of ITunes on a Mac book pro.
 
 When in a long list of songs in ITunes, I am unable to navigate to a
 particular song by using the first letter.
 
 Can someone kindly offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi david

Many thanks for your below instructions.  

Please could you send me the link to the relevant podcast off list as it
appears you are banned from sending links to your extremely helpful and
useful podcasts on this list?

best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 03 December 2014 19:16
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on
ITunes

Not Sarah  but 

1.  make sure you have column browser enabled.
Have songs as your sort order.

Now in iTunes you will have artist albums and songs arrange in alphabetical
order.
Now in any column typing the first few letters of an album artist or song
will jump you there.
However using this method you have to ensure 
a. that Quick Nav  is turned off.
b. That you only use the normal arrow keys. Us Using VO keys will abort the
search.
I demonstrated this in my Podcast if you still have the link.

David  Griffith 
 On 3 Dec 2014, at 19:02, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 I'm so sorry but I do not understand your instructions.
 
 Please could you talk me through step by step?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 03 December 2014 18:55
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs
on
 ITunes
 
 Hjit th eplay lists button and you shoudl be good to go. It's a grid now
so
 not fun, but it  works.
 
 Simply vo shift back slash on the music list and choose title button, then
 use  the same command to get out of the header menu.
 On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Lewis
 
 Good to hear from you and many thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a
 try.  Do you know how I can sort my songs into alphabetical order?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack
 Sent: 03 December 2014 15:43
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs
 on
 ITunes
 
 Hi Henry,
 You could search for the song by typing the song, artist name, etc in
 the Search Box.
 Hope this helps.
 Lewis.
 
 
 On 03/12/2014, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Yosemite and the latest version of ITunes on a Mac book
pro.
 
 When in a long list of songs in ITunes, I am unable to navigate to a
 particular song by using the first letter.
 
 Can someone kindly offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks

best wishes

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 03 December 2014 19:21
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs on
ITunes

Navigate to the list of songs and vo shift back slash on the table once you
interact with it. Press title or what ever that column is, then get out of
the headers menu with vo shift back slash.
 On Dec 3, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 I'm so sorry but I do not understand your instructions.
 
 Please could you talk me through step by step?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 03 December 2014 18:55
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs
on
 ITunes
 
 Hjit th eplay lists button and you shoudl be good to go. It's a grid now
so
 not fun, but it  works.
 
 Simply vo shift back slash on the music list and choose title button, then
 use  the same command to get out of the header menu.
 On Dec 3, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Lewis
 
 Good to hear from you and many thanks for your suggestion I'll give it a
 try.  Do you know how I can sort my songs into alphabetical order?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack
 Sent: 03 December 2014 15:43
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: navigating by first letter on a list of songs
 on
 ITunes
 
 Hi Henry,
 You could search for the song by typing the song, artist name, etc in
 the Search Box.
 Hope this helps.
 Lewis.
 
 
 On 03/12/2014, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Yosemite and the latest version of ITunes on a Mac book
pro.
 
 When in a long list of songs in ITunes, I am unable to navigate to a
 particular song by using the first letter.
 
 Can someone kindly offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Safari Podcast 6

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

I cannot download part 5 and part 6 from your below provided links , it is
reporting an error.  

Kind regards

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 09 November 2014 19:19
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: [Mac-access]: Safari Podcast 6

Someone has emailed me to report that Sendspace has weirdly renamed my  
Safari Podcast Part 6 on searching so that the file extension is mp36 
rather than mp3. I have deleted this version and re-uploaded the 
original file  which has the correct mp3 extension. Of course if you 
have downloaded a version with this incorrect extension you also have 
the option of renaming the original file extension from mp36 to mp3 
yourself.  The file will then play  fine. I downloaded  the file myself 
to test his and the actual file is not corrupted just renamed. Very odd.

Alternatively there is an updated link in the list below.
Podcast List


Using Safari on the Mac Part 6 -- Searching Basics, Google Search and 
Google Snapback.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/1ur8fz

Safari Part 7 YouTube

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jim2ys

Using Safari on the Mac Part 6 -- Searching Basics, Google Search and 
Google Snapback.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/1ur8fz

UsingSafari on the Mac Part 5. Strategies for using and customising the 
Reading List.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/wmbw5w

Using Safari on the Mac Part 4. Flexible Web with Sweet spots and Reader 
commands.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi

Using Safari on the Mac Part 3 Bookmarking part 2- Launching bookmarks 
and bookmarks folders from the Desktop / or the Dock.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/04aj3b

Blank URL document template to use if dragging and dropping does not 
work on your Mac to create bookmark shortcuts.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a

Using Safari on the Mac Part 2 . Bookmarking Part 1 Bookmarking, 
organising bookmark folders and

and organising quick access to Favourite web sites through the 
Favourites bar keystrokes.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z

Using Safari on the Mac Part 1 -- The pros and cons of Quick Nav and the 
Web rota.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl


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Re: [Mac-access]: Outlook Express E-mails on Mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

do these indications include office for the Mac?

Henry
 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 04 November 2014 17:16
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Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Outlook Express E-mails on Mac

Whenever I save emails on what ever platform I   always save them as text to
provide maximum portability.

I no longer use Outlook Express  but suspect that within Outlook Express you
could re-save  them as text. 
Alternatively you could forward them to your email on the Mac from within
Outlook.

Express. There seems some promising indications that the new generation of
Office Products will be accessible to Voiceover on the Mac. One Note is
apparently already accessible and there have been some reports of improved
accessibility in the Mac version of Microsoft Outlook so that may be an
option for importing OE emails in a similar way   to the Windows client.
David Griffith  
 On 4 Nov 2014, 16:58, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I have kept e-mails as important files.  They were in Outlook Express.
Will I be able to read any part of these on the Mac or not?
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Outlook Express E-mails on Mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Many thanks for your explanation-very interesting.

best wishes

Henry
   
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 04 November 2014 19:50
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Outlook Express E-mails on Mac

The rumours are that the complete rewrite of Office for the Mac will 
indeed provide and interface and content that is more accessible to 
Voiceover.
This is apparently because the rewrite is being done in more standard 
Apple Coco  programming language but I am no expert in this.
There is allegedly some evidence of this in as, I say, One Note and the 
new version of Outlook but apparently we have to wait until next year 
for the substantive rewrite of Office   in terms of applications like 
Word and Excel.

Still it will be a welcome development if it comes along. A fully 
featured and accessible version of Office on the Mac may well tip some 
more people into switching from Jaws etc to Voiceover on the Mac.

David Griffith

On 04/11/2014 19:34, Henry Miller wrote:

 Hi David

 do these indications include office for the Mac?

 Henry
   

 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 04 November 2014 17:16
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Outlook Express E-mails on Mac

 Whenever I save emails on what ever platform I   always save them as text
to
 provide maximum portability.

 I no longer use Outlook Express  but suspect that within Outlook Express
you
 could re-save  them as text.
 Alternatively you could forward them to your email on the Mac from within
 Outlook.

 Express. There seems some promising indications that the new generation of
 Office Products will be accessible to Voiceover on the Mac. One Note is
 apparently already accessible and there have been some reports of improved
 accessibility in the Mac version of Microsoft Outlook so that may be an
 option for importing OE emails in a similar way   to the Windows client.
 David Griffith
 On 4 Nov 2014, 16:58, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have kept e-mails as important files.  They were in Outlook Express.
 Will I be able to read any part of these on the Mac or not?
 Eleanor
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Mary

Many thanks for your suggestions and I also note David's comments-I'll play
around with the settings and experiment.

best wishes

Henry



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 30 October 2014 21:10
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

Hi Henry,
If you don't want to use the keyboard commander, then it should be
unchecked. And I think in that case it doesn't matter if you have option
keys checked or not since keyboard commander wouldn't be working. But I
could be wrong. You could experiment and uncheck the option keys and see if
that makes a difference, but I think it won't. Sorry I can't be of more
help.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Mary
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
 Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
 keyboard commander?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
 utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
 mess up the VO keys on the right side?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within
Safari
 I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
 there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
 keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
 have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
 don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
 even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
 from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and
option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and
option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.

If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari I
go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window there
is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option keys
and the letter A the applications menu is presented.

When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't have
boot camp on my machine.  

I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I don't
know how to set up an external keyboard.

best wishes

Henry



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

A few investigative steps.
Have you rebooted
Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists even
with that
Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response from
these keys?
Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
keyboard it may be a hardware problem

David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 
Several times

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 30 October 2014 18:05
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

A reboot is just another way of saying Have you restarted your Mac?

David

On 30/10/2014 15:58, Henry Miller wrote:

 Hi David

 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.

 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.

 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
have
 boot camp on my machine.

 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.

 best wishes

 Henry



 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem

 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:



 Hi

 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.

 Can anyone offer a solution?

 Best wishes

 Henry


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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Mary

Many thanks for your reply.

I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
keyboard commander?

best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
mess up the VO keys on the right side?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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[Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

[Henry Miller]

Hi

I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  

Can anyone offer a solution?

Best wishes

Henry


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RE: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi david

Many thanks for your below instructions.  I have carried out what you have
suggested, and I can now open the download's folder with VO plus spacebar.
However, this does not work for the documentt's folder on the dock, I hear
VO saying showing stats or stacks - sorry can't hear too good smiles.
.  I have tried pressing command plus O but this also doesn't avtivate.

Please could you help?

best wishes

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 21 October 2014 00:19
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

In order to access folders on the dock with Voiceover you nee dot assign
different view settings to the default.
You need to set the view option away from the default stack to folder and
specify the view option as list also. This requires repeatedly entering the
options of the dock item with shift vo m.
David Griffith  
 On 20 Oct 2014, at 21:28, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I cannot open either the download or document folder on the dock using VO
+
 spacebar or pressing the enter key.  All the other applications on the
dock
 open without any problems.
 
 Is there a special command to open folders on the dock? as command plus O
 does not activate.
 
 
 Many thanks in advance for any help 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks 

best wishes

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 21 October 2014 01:19
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

Actually  Try viewing it as list in the vo shift m context menu then try to
open the folder. ti will not actually open but it will still work.

Take care. 
 On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I cannot open either the download or document folder on the dock using VO
+
 spacebar or pressing the enter key.  All the other applications on the
dock
 open without any problems.
 
 Is there a special command to open folders on the dock? as command plus O
 does not activate.
 
 
 Many thanks in advance for any help 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi david

I have now sorted the problem about opening the documents folder on the
dock-I accidently selected the wrong item-thank you.

best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 21 October 2014 00:19
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

In order to access folders on the dock with Voiceover you nee dot assign
different view settings to the default.
You need to set the view option away from the default stack to folder and
specify the view option as list also. This requires repeatedly entering the
options of the dock item with shift vo m.
David Griffith  
 On 20 Oct 2014, at 21:28, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I cannot open either the download or document folder on the dock using VO
+
 spacebar or pressing the enter key.  All the other applications on the
dock
 open without any problems.
 
 Is there a special command to open folders on the dock? as command plus O
 does not activate.
 
 
 Many thanks in advance for any help 
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Chris

Many thanks for the instructions.

Kind regards

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: 20 October 2014 21:50
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

The below will work in any Finder window including open and save windows.
1. Downloads: option-command-l
2. Documents: command-shift-o
again this works from any Finder window and isn't new in Yosemite.


On 20/10/2014 21:28, Henry Miller wrote:


 Hi

 I cannot open either the download or document folder on the dock using VO
+
 spacebar or pressing the enter key.  All the other applications on the
dock
 open without any problems.

 Is there a special command to open folders on the dock? as command plus O
 does not activate.


 Many thanks in advance for any help

 best wishes

 Henry


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restoring an account in Mail?

[Henry Miller]

Hi everyone

Is it possible to restore an account which I have accidently deleted in
Mail?  I am using the latest version of Mavericks.

Many thanks

Henry


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RE: restoring an account in Mail?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Kliphton

Thank you for your reply.  I don't want to create a new account, I wish to
try and recover an account that I have deleted from Mail.  Trying to avoid
filling in all the details for the email address again smiles.

Best wishes

Henry
 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kliphton Senior
Sent: 21 August 2014 11:15
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: restoring an account in Mail?

Yes, just go back to system preferences, go to the accounts tab, and add an
account.  Or you can go to the main system preferences of your mac, and add
it in internet accounts.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:22 AM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: restoring an account in Mail?


Hi everyone

Is it possible to restore an account which I have accidently deleted in
Mail?  I am using the latest version of Mavericks.

Many thanks

Henry


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RE: restoring an account in Mail?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Kliphton

Aah Yes! Thank you.

Best wishes

Henry
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kliphton Senior
Sent: 21 August 2014 11:36
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: restoring an account in Mail?

It's not creating a new account, you have to go there to add the account you
just deleted.  So yes it says add new, but you are basically putting the
same information back for the account you deleted by mistake.  Hope that
makes since.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:29 AM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: restoring an account in Mail?


Hi Kliphton

Thank you for your reply.  I don't want to create a new account, I wish to
try and recover an account that I have deleted from Mail.  Trying to avoid
filling in all the details for the email address again smiles.

Best wishes

Henry
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kliphton Senior
Sent: 21 August 2014 11:15
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: restoring an account in Mail?

Yes, just go back to system preferences, go to the accounts tab, and add an
account.  Or you can go to the main system preferences of your mac, and add
it in internet accounts.

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:22 AM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: restoring an account in Mail?


Hi everyone

Is it possible to restore an account which I have accidently deleted in
Mail?  I am using the latest version of Mavericks.

Many thanks

Henry


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RE: using ICloud

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks for your reply.

At the moment, I do not have any IDevices although I might purchase an
IPhone in the near future.  I wonder which is the best way to back up my Mac
bearing this in mind?  Should I use the ICloud or purchase an external drive
etc.

Kind regards

Henry



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 15 August 2014 22:09
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: using ICloud

Well there are no podcasts to speak of, but all you do is sign in and choose
what yu want backed up and hit back up now for the first tiem and let it do
its thing.

Take care. 
On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi
 
 Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on
getting
 started with ICloud?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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RE: using ICloud

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks for your advice.

Kind regards

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 16 August 2014 18:24
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: using ICloud

I would at first get an external drive as with icloud you only get 5 gigs
free. and wiht an external drive you can go up to 4t (no that is not a mis
print) in size. I have a 1t phantom that I use  for time machine back up and
back blaze currently for my back up off site for everythign else. 

Take care. 
On Aug 16, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 At the moment, I do not have any IDevices although I might purchase an
 IPhone in the near future.  I wonder which is the best way to back up my
Mac
 bearing this in mind?  Should I use the ICloud or purchase an external
drive
 etc.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 15 August 2014 22:09
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: using ICloud
 
 Well there are no podcasts to speak of, but all you do is sign in and
choose
 what yu want backed up and hit back up now for the first tiem and let it
do
 its thing.
 
 Take care. 
 On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on
 getting
 started with ICloud?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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RE: Repair Permissions

[Henry Miller]

Hi Anne

Many thanks for these instructions, they are greatly appreciated.  I too
have just upgraded to Mavericks and encountered a couple of issues-hopefully
now that I have followed your instructions all wil be well.

Kind regards

Henry
 


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 16 August 2014 18:37
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: How can I stop streadsheets opening in Numbers at the top cell
all the time?

Hello Eleanor,

To repair permissions:
. Open your Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u);
. Type dis to get quickly to Disk Utility and open it (Cmd-o);
. Interact with the table and navigate down to your hard drive (probably the
second item in the list);
. Stop interacting and navigate twice to the right to make sure that First
Aid is selected;
. Navigate straight down as far as Repair disk permissions and press
VO-Space:
. You can follow progress by navigating up to the Results table and
interacting with it;
. When the repair is complete, it will say Permissions repair complete at
the bottom of the Results table;
. Quit Disk utility.

There will always be a few things to repair. I usually find about 7 lines in
the table, but I've seen computers with thousands of lines of repairs!

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Aug 2014, at 19:21, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not Andy but what is Repan permissions and how is this done please
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing new software and after
updates.
 
 People who only use their Macs for simple tasks can get away with not
repairing permissions, but as soon as you start using more complex programs
such as Numbers, you're going to encounter anomalous behaviour just as you
have already done.
 
 I've been a Mac user now for 18 years so I do have some idea what I'm
talking about.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 16 Aug 2014, at 18:50, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 No, I haven't ever repaired permissions. I know it has ben discussed,
but while nothing appeared to be broken, I felt it best to leave alone.
Maybe it's time -
 
 Andy
 
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using ICloud

[Henry Miller]

Hi

Please could someone signpost me to either tutorials or podcasts on getting
started with ICloud?

best wishes

Henry



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RE: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login

[Henry Miller]

Hi Eleanor 

I also would be most grateful it someone on the list will kindly tell us where 
we set VO to load up automatically at start up on the Mac.  I am searching 
around but with no success.


best wishes

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
Sent: 02 August 2014 14:20
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login

thanks Jimi it would be great to know where that setting is rather than me 
having to do it each time would very much appreciate if someone can let us know

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 2 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net wrote:
 
 You can hit command f5 at the log on screen to get speech.  There is a 
 setting somewhere, but I can’t remember where, to allow VO at the log on 
 screen.  Mine comes on automatically there but I don’t remember where I set 
 it to do so.
 
 Jimmy Podsim …
 google Voice, 210-660-6831 …
 facebook, http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim …
 Twitter, http://www.twitter.com/jimmypodsim ..
 
 
 On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:24 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All
 Mac is accidentally set to put in computer password at login.  No speech, 
 cannot recall how to overcome this issue.  I know there are 2 icons on the 
 screen one of which is the Apple logo.  How do I get to put in password, I 
 have tried to vo right arrow and that did not work.  I then tried to tab and 
 that did not work.  After telling me how to overcome this visual issue can 
 you then tell me how to remove this password at login presumably in system 
 preferences.  Thanks.
 
 Eleanor 
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RE: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login

[Henry Miller]

Hi Eleanor

Many thanks for the instructions.  I'll have a try tomorrow, but if I feel a 
little uncertain as to what I am doing, I'll wait until I have some sighted 
assistance to help.
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 02 August 2014 14:45
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login

Hi Henry, here you go, once Jimmy told me it could be done I managed to 
Google and find it.

Turning on VoiceOver for the login window

You can select an option in System Preferences to automatically turn on 
VoiceOver in the Mac OS X login window.

To turn on VoiceOver for the login window:

1.  Choose Apple menu  System Preferences and click Accounts.

If Accounts preferences are locked, click the lock icon in the lower-left 
corner of the page and type an administrator password to unlock them.

2.  In the account list, move the VoiceOver cursor to Login Options and 
press VO-Space bar.

3.  In the login options, press VO-Right Arrow until you hear “Use 
VoiceOver at login window.”

4.  Press VO-Space bar to select the checkbox.



Good luck, I now need to tackle this myself *smile*.  I do not feel 
comfortable in that area of the locking and unlocking but hopefully we will 
both succeed Henry.



Eleanor



- Original Message - 
From: Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login




 Hi Eleanor

 I also would be most grateful it someone on the list will kindly tell us 
 where we set VO to load up automatically at start up on the Mac.  I am 
 searching around but with no success.


 best wishes

 Henry


 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
 burke
 Sent: 02 August 2014 14:20
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Turning On Mac - No VO at Screen for Login

 thanks Jimi it would be great to know where that setting is rather than me 
 having to do it each time would very much appreciate if someone can let us 
 know

 Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 2 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Jimmy Podsim jp.kd5...@att.net wrote:

 You can hit command f5 at the log on screen to get speech.  There is a 
 setting somewhere, but I can’t remember where, to allow VO at the log on 
 screen.  Mine comes on automatically there but I don’t remember where I 
 set it to do so.

 Jimmy Podsim …
 google Voice, 210-660-6831 …
 facebook, http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim …
 Twitter, http://www.twitter.com/jimmypodsim ..


 On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:24 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All
 Mac is accidentally set to put in computer password at login.  No 
 speech, cannot recall how to overcome this issue.  I know there are 2 
 icons on the screen one of which is the Apple logo.  How do I get to put 
 in password, I have tried to vo right arrow and that did not work.  I 
 then tried to tab and that did not work.  After telling me how to 
 overcome this visual issue can you then tell me how to remove this 
 password at login presumably in system preferences.  Thanks.

 Eleanor
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RE: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Matthew

It appears that when the Mavericks update had completed, I heard a prompt to
create a new account-which I duly obliged.  Unfortunatley, when I reloaded
the Mac and went into this account there were no previous VO settings and
the voice had just defaulted to Daniel.  My Sighted friend, deleted the new
account and all was restored to the old account on Mountain lion with all
the associated VO and voice settings-it was a bit of a headache!. 

When I now load the Mac Voice over does not load automatically and the first
screen is a log in screen.  

Please could you tell me how to ensure VO loads at start up and how can I
have the first screen to show my desk top similar to Mountain Lion without
having to log in using a password?

Kind regards

Henry

  

 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
Sent: 31 July 2014 21:57
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

That is great. What was going on with it?
On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi Matthew
 
 Many thanks for your advice.  Yes! I am aware of this short cut, but under
 the voices there was just one voice which is Daniel.   I am now pleased to
 say that I have now sorted the problem out with some sighted help.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
 Sent: 31 July 2014 15:40
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Hello Henry. For future reference you should be able to hit control
options
 command and your left or right arrow until it says voice. you can then hit
 control option command and down arrow until it says the voice you want and
 there you go. You can also change a couple other things there too.
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Isaac
 
 Many many thanks.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
 Then go to speech with command 3. 
 Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice
 popup menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
 Alex should be in there.  
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Isaac
 
 Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice
Alex
 within Mavericks?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you're
 wifi network?
 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have
 lost
 my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only
 Daniel
 available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my
 hearing
 loss.  
 
 Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection
 and
 Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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RE: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Matthew

Many thanks I'll try this out tomorrow when I have more time.  

Kindest regards

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
Sent: 01 August 2014 16:10
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

Go to system preferences. Then go to users and groups. Make sure the log in
is set to your main account. There should be something there also to tell it
not to require a log in password. Hope this helps.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Matthew
 
 It appears that when the Mavericks update had completed, I heard a prompt
to
 create a new account-which I duly obliged.  Unfortunatley, when I reloaded
 the Mac and went into this account there were no previous VO settings and
 the voice had just defaulted to Daniel.  My Sighted friend, deleted the
new
 account and all was restored to the old account on Mountain lion with all
 the associated VO and voice settings-it was a bit of a headache!. 
 
 When I now load the Mac Voice over does not load automatically and the
first
 screen is a log in screen.  
 
 Please could you tell me how to ensure VO loads at start up and how can I
 have the first screen to show my desk top similar to Mountain Lion without
 having to log in using a password?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
 Sent: 31 July 2014 21:57
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 That is great. What was going on with it?
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Matthew
 
 Many thanks for your advice.  Yes! I am aware of this short cut, but
under
 the voices there was just one voice which is Daniel.   I am now pleased
to
 say that I have now sorted the problem out with some sighted help.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Carello
 Sent: 31 July 2014 15:40
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Hello Henry. For future reference you should be able to hit control
 options
 command and your left or right arrow until it says voice. you can then
hit
 control option command and down arrow until it says the voice you want
and
 there you go. You can also change a couple other things there too.
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Isaac
 
 Many many thanks.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
 Then go to speech with command 3. 
 Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice
 popup menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
 Alex should be in there.  
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Isaac
 
 Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice
 Alex
 within Mavericks?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you're
 wifi network?
 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to
have
 lost
 my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only
 Daniel
 available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my
 hearing
 loss.  
 
 Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet
connection
 and
 Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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 This irritating

Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Everyone

I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have lost
my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only Daniel
available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my hearing
loss.  

Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection and
Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes

Henry
 


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RE: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Isaac

Many many thanks.

Kind regards

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac.heb...@gmail.com
Sent: 31 July 2014 13:03
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?

Yes I do if you go to the voiceover utility with vo f 8. 
Then go to speech with command 3. 
Then vo right arrow to the voices tab and then tab to the default voice popup 
menu and then press vo space bar to open the menu. 
Alex should be in there.  
On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Isaac
 
 Many thanks for your advice.  Do you know where I can find the Voice Alex 
 within Mavericks?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Sent: 31 July 2014 11:26
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help - Just upgraded to Mavericks?
 
 Have you tried going textures and then wifi and then selecting you’re wifi 
 network?
 
 On Jul 31, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I have just upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion and appear to have lost
 my internet connection and the voice Alex.  There appears to be only Daniel
 available and I find his voice very difficult to follow owing to my hearing
 loss.  
 
 Please could someone advise on how I can restore my internet connection and
 Alex?  Step by step instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
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RE: Upgrading to Mavericks

[Henry Miller]

Hi Everyone

I submitted the below questions several days ago but have received no
response.

I do apologise if these questions are deemed to be too simplistic, but I
would appreciate some step by step guidance.


I have been following this thread off and on over the past few weeks, and
have now decided to upgrade to Mavericks.  However, I am not using the
latest version of ITunes with Mountain lion.  My questions are:

Should I upgrade to the latest version of ITunes prior to upgrading to
Mavericks?
 
Do I need to back up my current ITunes library and any other files before
moving to Mavericks?

In addition, do I have to carry out a clean install prior to upgrading?


Many thanks

Henry


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RE: Upgrading to Mavericks

[Henry Miller]

Hi Terry

Many thanks for your advice it is greatly appreciated.  I shall now go ahead
and upgrade.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry clasper
Sent: 25 July 2014 13:44
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Mavericks

Hi Henry.
To my knowledge it dlesnt matter which order you do this in.
When I upgraded to Mavricks a while back it didn't effect my files what so
ever, and whenever I've upgraded iTunes, either incrementally or across a
couple of upgrades I've never had a problem with the library being
effectively carried forward as part of the upgrade process.
Of course the purists amongst us would probably always advise to back up
files prior to a major upgrade, and of course thats good advice, but I
personally didm rand had no problems.

On 25 Jul 2014, at 13:20, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I submitted the below questions several days ago but have received no
 response.
 
 I do apologise if these questions are deemed to be too simplistic, but I
 would appreciate some step by step guidance.
 
 
 I have been following this thread off and on over the past few weeks, and
 have now decided to upgrade to Mavericks.  However, I am not using the
 latest version of ITunes with Mountain lion.  My questions are:
 
 Should I upgrade to the latest version of ITunes prior to upgrading to
 Mavericks?
 
 Do I need to back up my current ITunes library and any other files before
 moving to Mavericks?
 
 In addition, do I have to carry out a clean install prior to upgrading?
 
 
 Many thanks
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Upgrading to Mavericks

[Henry Miller]

Hi  Jimmy

Many thanks for your advice.

best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jimmy Podsim
Sent: 25 July 2014 14:52
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Mavericks

Firstly, if you have a time machine backup, there is no need to back up 
anything.  Secondly, you do not have to do a clean install or reinstall to 
upgrade.  As a matter of fact.  When I asked Apple about wanting to do a clean 
install, they said that as long as you aren’t having problems, there’s no need. 
 
God bless our troops and God bless America again.

Jimmy Podsim.
http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.podsim/
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I submitted the below questions several days ago but have received no
 response.
 
 I do apologise if these questions are deemed to be too simplistic, but I
 would appreciate some step by step guidance.
 
 
 I have been following this thread off and on over the past few weeks, and
 have now decided to upgrade to Mavericks.  However, I am not using the
 latest version of ITunes with Mountain lion.  My questions are:
 
 Should I upgrade to the latest version of ITunes prior to upgrading to
 Mavericks?
 
 Do I need to back up my current ITunes library and any other files before
 moving to Mavericks?
 
 In addition, do I have to carry out a clean install prior to upgrading?
 
 
 Many thanks
 
 Henry
 
 
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how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Everyone 

Please could someone offer step by step instructions on how to add the text
edit application to the dock on a Mac book pro running Mountain lion?

Many thanks in advance

Kind regards

Henry


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RE: how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi John

Many thanks-so simple when you know how smiles.

Kind regards

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: 17 June 2014 20:56
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

   There are a few ways, but this is probably easiest.

1. In Finder, press command-shift-a to open your Application folder.
2. Hit the letter, t, to jump down to Text Edit.  If this doesn't work, you
might have to navigate down to it.
3. In Mountain Lion, press command-shift-t to add Text Edit to the Dock.


Take Care

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On Jun 17, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi Everyone 
 
 Please could someone offer step by step instructions on how to add the
text
 edit application to the dock on a Mac book pro running Mountain lion?
 
 Many thanks in advance
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah and Chris

Many thanks for your step by step instructions-I do appreciate the help on
this list.

Kind regards

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 17 June 2014 21:08
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: how do I add the text edit application to the Dock?

1. hit cmd shift a from finder

2 highlight text edit

3. hit cmd shift t

Hth.
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi Everyone 
 
 Please could someone offer step by step instructions on how to add the
text
 edit application to the dock on a Mac book pro running Mountain lion?
 
 Many thanks in advance
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
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voice over has gone quiet?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Everyone

Using Mountain lion and I have just turned on my Mac book pro and heard the
start up tune but voice over is not speaking.  I have this problem
periodically, but if I turn off and reboot the problem corrects itself.
This time after several reboots no such luck.  If I hold the VO keys down
and press certain keys there is a click.  For example, If I hold down the VO
keys and then press up or down arrow I hear the click, if I press the left
and right arrow there is no sound.

Please could someone advise and help to restore VO?

Kind regards

Henry

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RE: voice over has gone quiet?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Chris

How will I know?

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hallsworth
Sent: 11 June 2014 16:14
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: voice over has gone quiet?

Is speech muted?

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 11/06/2014 15:02, Henry Miller wrote:


 Hi Everyone

 Using Mountain lion and I have just turned on my Mac book pro and heard
the
 start up tune but voice over is not speaking.  I have this problem
 periodically, but if I turn off and reboot the problem corrects itself.
 This time after several reboots no such luck.  If I hold the VO keys down
 and press certain keys there is a click.  For example, If I hold down the
VO
 keys and then press up or down arrow I hear the click, if I press the left
 and right arrow there is no sound.

 Please could someone advise and help to restore VO?

 Kind regards

 Henry

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RE: voice over has gone quiet?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks, do appreciate your advice

Kind regards

Henry




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 11 June 2014 16:16
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: voice over has gone quiet?

Try activating the training mode with cmd vo f8. then when and if you hear
the voice over quick start guide hit escape and the problem should be fixed.

This was a bug in mountain lion during beta testing, how ever I thought they
fixed it with mavericks. I really can't tell you as I have not experienced
the bug ever since upgrading.

Take care.

 On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:02, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 Using Mountain lion and I have just turned on my Mac book pro and heard
the
 start up tune but voice over is not speaking.  I have this problem
 periodically, but if I turn off and reboot the problem corrects itself.
 This time after several reboots no such luck.  If I hold the VO keys down
 and press certain keys there is a click.  For example, If I hold down the
VO
 keys and then press up or down arrow I hear the click, if I press the left
 and right arrow there is no sound.
 
 Please could someone advise and help to restore VO?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
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How do I take a vacation from the list?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

Please could you tell me How to take a vacation from this list?

best wishes and thanks for any replies in advance

Henry


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RE: Track Pad Settings

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

Please could you explain the key strokes for system preferences?

Best wishes

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 26 March 2014 06:45
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings

Hello Eleanor,

I'm wondering whether your problem might not be Mission Control. I always
disable Mission Control as I find it useless for me and it has a tendency to
interfere with other functions. You can disable it by going into System
Preferences, Mission Control, and setting all its short cuts to - which is
the last choice in the pop up menus.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 00:05, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I am wondering if I have problems with my track pad as sometimes I can be
executing a command and next thing I get time machine or calandar or dash
board come up and I have not given a command to bring them up.  Trying to
get back out of them by esc or trying to close them is impossible too.  I
can't even move to the app I was in by pressing command and tab.  Thoughts
welcome. 
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RE: Track Pad Settings

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

Many thanks for your comprehensive explaination, I am most grateful.

Best wishes

Henry



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 26 March 2014 11:13
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings

Hello Henry,

I'm not sure what you mean by the keystrokes for System Preferences. You get
to System Preferences by going to the Apple menu (VO-m) then going down to
System Preferences and pressing Return.

Once in System Preferences, interact with the scroll area and you'll find
lots of buttons. When you press VO-Space on a button, it opens a pane where
you can make adjustments.

When you've finished with one pane, just press Cmd-l and you'll see all the
buttons again.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2014, at 12:04, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Ann
 
 Please could you explain the key strokes for system preferences?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
 Sent: 26 March 2014 06:45
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Track Pad Settings
 
 Hello Eleanor,
 
 I'm wondering whether your problem might not be Mission Control. I always
 disable Mission Control as I find it useless for me and it has a tendency
to
 interfere with other functions. You can disable it by going into System
 Preferences, Mission Control, and setting all its short cuts to - which
is
 the last choice in the pop up menus.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Mar 2014, at 00:05, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com
wrote:
 
 I am wondering if I have problems with my track pad as sometimes I can be
 executing a command and next thing I get time machine or calandar or dash
 board come up and I have not given a command to bring them up.  Trying to
 get back out of them by esc or trying to close them is impossible too.  I
 can't even move to the app I was in by pressing command and tab.  Thoughts
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ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

Please could someone advise on the following questions?
Using a Mac book pro with Mountain lion.

1. VO sometimes says ITunes busy what does this mean?

2. When a CD is being imported into ITunes, how can I monitor its progress?

3. How can I find out the version of ITunes that I am using?

Many thanks 

Henry


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RE: ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi Isaac and Phil

Many thanks for your replies, greatly appreciated.  

best wishes

Henry




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Sent: 12 March 2014 13:50
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ITunes

iTunes busy means that iTunes is doing a process that requires you to wait a
while so that what iTunes busy means. Some times iTunes locks up so that
could be another reason why vo is saying iTunes busy. 
On Mar 12, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi 
 
 Please could someone advise on the following questions?
 Using a Mac book pro with Mountain lion.
 
 1. VO sometimes says ITunes busy what does this mean?
 
 2. When a CD is being imported into ITunes, how can I monitor its
progress?
 
 3. How can I find out the version of ITunes that I am using?
 
 Many thanks 
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Grappling with iTunes again.

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

I have been closely following this thread-for I am having the same problems
as yourself.  Do you know if this problem is only associated with using
keyboard commands or are you aware if sighted users of ITunes experience the
same difficulties?

Kind regards

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 December 2013 14:56
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Grappling with iTunes again.

Thanks . I had worked this out fairly easily but that only relates to the
console.
Say I am playing a track from a particular album but then I want to play a
track by a completely different artist and different album?
Previous or next tracks or fast forward etc. are not appropriate here.
The problem then becomes dragging the console into accord with the other
files I select to try and play from the track in the files list.
Hitting space now will only play the track I no longer want to listen to and
will not play the new track I have selected from the file list.

David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: 25 December 2013 14:36
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Grappling with iTunes again.

   Command-right arrow on the Mac goes to the next track and command-left
arrow goes back to previous track.  Spacebar pauses and resumes play.
Command-option-jright and left arrows acts as a fast forward and rewind.


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On Dec 25, 2013, at 7:02 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 I have decided to give iTunes another go but am still struggling with the
 basics. I know others have struggled with this on this list.
 
 I am trying to sort by Artist then album and play the Track of that album.
I
 can manage this fine on   My iPhone but on a Computer whether Mac or PC
this
 is much harder to accomplish.
 
 As far as I can tell without sight, iTunes has a player console which is
 completely separate from the file list. If the keyboard focus is on this
 player console then pressing space on the play button will play and pause
 the track fine.
 
 However shifting focus away from the console to changing the music played
 from the file list is extremely problematic. Moving to the file list and
 pressing space on a new selected track will simply resume the playing of
the
 previous track I was playing and not the new selected track.  Pressing
enter
 will also not achieve the desired result. 
 
 An option is that sometimes you can change tracks by hitting the context
 menu and then finding play. This is a bit of a palaver though. However,
just
 as often the play option is not available and you instead get options like
 create mp3 version, or view in Finder etc. 
 
 So my question is how can you change the track being played in iTunes
 without tearing your hair out. Please do not simply suggest just press
enter
 on the track as is sometimes suggested as this simply does not work, as
 others have confirmed. If pressing enter works on some setups then there
 must be some other setting which needs changing so that my iTunes
replicates
 this behaviour.
 
 
 Regards
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
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RE: Grappling with iTunes again.

[Henry Miller]

Hi David

Thank you for your reply.  I agree ITunes on the Mac is hard work, unless
someone on the list has a simple solution.

Kind regards

Henry
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 26 December 2013 10:15
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Grappling with iTunes again.

It definitely is the enter key you use in iTunes to play a new file from the
file list but the problem is that sporadically it does not work.  This is
what causes the confusion for people like you and me. I suspect that in both
our cases the first time we tried the use of the enter key to play a track
from the file list it did not produce any results so we assumed that this
key did not work in general.

I have discovered 2 things. 
1. Sometimes, for  some unknown reason it takes several seconds for iTunes
to start playing the track after the enter key is pressed. So hang about
before assuming it has not worked.
2. As I mentioned before restarting iTunes appears to clear the problem.
Once restarting the program and navigating back to the identical track I
find iTunes will now allow the change of track to occur and the new track to
start playing.

This is annoying but is at least a workaround.
Incidentally I have experienced exactly the same issue on iTunes on the Mac
and the PC. 
On both the Mac and PC I therefore tend to use VLC more than iTunes as I
find it more reliable stable and intuitive to use. To be fair I am putting
effort into using learning and using iTunes  as I want to be assured that I
am not judging the product unfairly. I remain unimpressed with it so far
though. I can make it function but everything seems hard work to achieve
what is simpler on other platforms/players.


David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: 26 December 2013 09:37
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Grappling with iTunes again.



Hi David

I have been closely following this thread-for I am having the same problems
as yourself.  Do you know if this problem is only associated with using
keyboard commands or are you aware if sighted users of ITunes experience the
same difficulties?

Kind regards

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 December 2013 14:56
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Grappling with iTunes again.

Thanks . I had worked this out fairly easily but that only relates to the
console.
Say I am playing a track from a particular album but then I want to play a
track by a completely different artist and different album?
Previous or next tracks or fast forward etc. are not appropriate here.
The problem then becomes dragging the console into accord with the other
files I select to try and play from the track in the files list.
Hitting space now will only play the track I no longer want to listen to and
will not play the new track I have selected from the file list.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: 25 December 2013 14:36
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Grappling with iTunes again.

   Command-right arrow on the Mac goes to the next track and command-left
arrow goes back to previous track.  Spacebar pauses and resumes play.
Command-option-jright and left arrows acts as a fast forward and rewind.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Dec 25, 2013, at 7:02 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 I have decided to give iTunes another go but am still struggling with the
 basics. I know others have struggled with this on this list.
 
 I am trying to sort by Artist then album and play the Track of that album.
I
 can manage this fine on   My iPhone but on a Computer whether Mac or PC
this
 is much harder to accomplish.
 
 As far as I can tell without sight, iTunes has a player console which is
 completely separate from the file list. If the keyboard focus is on this
 player console then pressing space on the play button will play and pause
 the track fine.
 
 However shifting focus away from the console to changing the music played
 from the file list is extremely problematic. Moving to the file list and
 pressing space on a new selected track will simply resume the playing of
the
 previous track I was playing and not the new selected track.  Pressing
enter
 will also not achieve the desired result. 
 
 An option is that sometimes you can change tracks by hitting the context

playing songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi 
I am using mountain lion and trying to familiarise myself with I_tunes and
have the following questions:
1. when I play a song, and press space bar to pause, then arrow down the
list and highlight another song, How can I play this song without using the
command plus right arrow keys?
2.  How do mac users carry out the function drag and drop quickly when
moving songs and albums around playlists?
 
Best wishes

Henry


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RE: playing songs on ITunes

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

When I press enter on the newly selected song nothing happens-is there a
setting to adjust?
Many thanks
Henry


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 02 December 2013 14:56
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: playing songs on ITunes


On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 1. when I play a song, and press space bar to pause, then arrow down the
 list and highlight another song, How can I play this song without using
the
 command plus right arrow keys?

Simply hit enter on the new song. This is like the double click or what ever
the sighted people use to play something or take an action in osx. 
 2.  How do mac users carry out the function drag and drop quickly when
 moving songs and albums around playlists?
 I use cut and or copy and paste, mainly copy so I don't brake anything, or
I copy and paste from a finder window and elect not to have iTunes copy my
stuff to the library.

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RE: adding songs and albums to iTunes on the mac.

[Henry Miller]

Hi Travis

Many thanks for your below reply.
best wishes
Henry


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: 02 December 2013 15:23
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: adding songs and albums to iTunes on the mac.

There's also a checkbox in the preferences to tell Itunes to leave  
your songs alone, in which case, it will just add them to the library,  
without copying them into the structure it prefers, which sometimes  
really screws up your collection if you have a large collection before  
Itunes enters the picture.
It's the checkbox that says keep my library organized.  If you uncheck  
this, then Itunes will just add the music without moving things around  
on you.

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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

I wonder if you could kindly explain the terms: prams and permissions as
mentioned in your previous emails?
best wishes
Henry
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 21 November 2013 17:55
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Hello Andy,

If you don't repair permissions regularly, your Mac can start misbehaving
such as losing the sounds in Mail, going busy too often, having short cuts
stop working, and all kinds of other problems I've heard people complain
about. I've been using Macs for 17 years, long before VoiceOver, and I
rarely have problems but I also repair permissions regularly and reset the
PRAM every month or so.

What you don't need to do on a Mac is defrag the HD. Housekeeping is the
first job a Mac does when powered on, or if left to sleep, sometime in the
early hours of the morning.

Cheers,

Anne


On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:58, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Thanks Anne - Can you help me be clearer then on what is going on? Why do
permissions need to be repaired? What might the consequences be if
permissions were not repaired?
 
 Thanks -
 
 Andy
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 14:00, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing software whatever the
source. It doesn't take long and it can save trouble later.
 
 What Chris had to say was, in the strictest sense accurate, but it's
still worth repairing permissions while still booted into OS X. The thing
you can't do is repair the disk, which has to be done from the recovery
partition, but I can't remember the last time I needed to repair the disk.
 
 You may find, the first time you repair permissions, that the repairs run
to thousands of lines, but after that, you'll only get a few repairs each
time.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 11:59, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 Thanks too for these instructions. I love the way you are always
accurate and detailed in your explanations.
 
 You'll have seen that Chris had something to say on repairing
permissions that for Mac novices like myself can leave us wondering what to
do for the best.
 
 Your recommendation is to repair permissions after every software
installation, is that regardless of where the software came from? For
example, I installed iText Express and Line in yesterday, the first of
course from the Mac app store, and the second from a third party provider,
will this be ok, or should I do a permissions repair?
 
 Thanks for any clarification -
 
 Andy
 On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:01, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Henry,
 
 Here are a few things you should know about. You should repair
permissions every time you install new software, and when your machine is
behaving erratically, you should reset the PRAM. Instructions follow.
 
 You can shut down your computer tidily with Ctrl-Option-Command-Eject
key (or Power key if you have a MacBook Air).
 
 Instructions for resetting the PRAM
 
 Shut down your computer, then hold down the following keys: Command,
Option, R and P. With these held down, press the Power key once, keeping the
four keys held down until you've heard the start up chime four times.
Release the four keys and the machine will boot normally.
 
 
 Repairing permissions
 
 Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u).
 Open Disk Utility.
 Select your HD in the table.
 Make sure that First Aid is selected.
 Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
 You can follow the progress of the repair by going up to the Results
table and interacting with it.
 You can press Cmd-q from within the table.
 
 Your trackpad is reacting normally as that is the way a sighted person
moves the mouse pointer.
 
 Which level of the OS are you using? Mountain Lion or Mavericks?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:27, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using
the
 keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.
 
 I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?
 
 Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad
with one
 finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or
should I
 turn something else off?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you
have the
 escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right
most
 corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
 delete/backspace key is the eject key.
 
 Chris

RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

Many thanks for your clear explanation.
Kind regards
Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 22 November 2013 15:43
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Hello Henry,

The PRAM (pronounced p-ram) is the parameter random access memory and stores
all kinds of information about the system.

Permissions are what tells the system who can and can't read, write or
modify files. Permissions are often changed by applications during the
installation process and don't get changed back again.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Nov 2013, at 14:50, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Ann
 
 I wonder if you could kindly explain the terms: prams and permissions
as
 mentioned in your previous emails?
 best wishes
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
 Sent: 21 November 2013 17:55
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: please can someone advise?
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 If you don't repair permissions regularly, your Mac can start misbehaving
 such as losing the sounds in Mail, going busy too often, having short cuts
 stop working, and all kinds of other problems I've heard people complain
 about. I've been using Macs for 17 years, long before VoiceOver, and I
 rarely have problems but I also repair permissions regularly and reset the
 PRAM every month or so.
 
 What you don't need to do on a Mac is defrag the HD. Housekeeping is the
 first job a Mac does when powered on, or if left to sleep, sometime in the
 early hours of the morning.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:58, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Anne - Can you help me be clearer then on what is going on? Why do
 permissions need to be repaired? What might the consequences be if
 permissions were not repaired?
 
 Thanks -
 
 Andy
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 14:00, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Andy,
 
 You should repair permissions after installing software whatever the
 source. It doesn't take long and it can save trouble later.
 
 What Chris had to say was, in the strictest sense accurate, but it's
 still worth repairing permissions while still booted into OS X. The thing
 you can't do is repair the disk, which has to be done from the recovery
 partition, but I can't remember the last time I needed to repair the disk.
 
 You may find, the first time you repair permissions, that the repairs
run
 to thousands of lines, but after that, you'll only get a few repairs each
 time.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 11:59, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne -
 
 Thanks too for these instructions. I love the way you are always
 accurate and detailed in your explanations.
 
 You'll have seen that Chris had something to say on repairing
 permissions that for Mac novices like myself can leave us wondering what
to
 do for the best.
 
 Your recommendation is to repair permissions after every software
 installation, is that regardless of where the software came from? For
 example, I installed iText Express and Line in yesterday, the first of
 course from the Mac app store, and the second from a third party provider,
 will this be ok, or should I do a permissions repair?
 
 Thanks for any clarification -
 
 Andy
 On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:01, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Henry,
 
 Here are a few things you should know about. You should repair
 permissions every time you install new software, and when your machine is
 behaving erratically, you should reset the PRAM. Instructions follow.
 
 You can shut down your computer tidily with Ctrl-Option-Command-Eject
 key (or Power key if you have a MacBook Air).
 
 Instructions for resetting the PRAM
 
 Shut down your computer, then hold down the following keys: Command,
 Option, R and P. With these held down, press the Power key once, keeping
the
 four keys held down until you've heard the start up chime four times.
 Release the four keys and the machine will boot normally.
 
 
 Repairing permissions
 
 Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u).
 Open Disk Utility.
 Select your HD in the table.
 Make sure that First Aid is selected.
 Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
 You can follow the progress of the repair by going up to the Results
 table and interacting with it.
 You can press Cmd-q from within the table.
 
 Your trackpad is reacting normally as that is the way a sighted person
 moves the mouse pointer.
 
 Which level of the OS are you using? Mountain Lion or Mavericks?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:27, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using
 the
 keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.
 
 I wonder if you or someone

RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

Many thanks for your comprehensive set of instructions-it is very kind of
you.  I am currently using Mountain lion and bearing in mind the threads on
this list with regards to Maverick, I intend to stay with ML for a while
smiles.

Best wishes

Henry
 


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 20 November 2013 22:01
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Hello Henry,

Here are a few things you should know about. You should repair permissions
every time you install new software, and when your machine is behaving
erratically, you should reset the PRAM. Instructions follow.

You can shut down your computer tidily with Ctrl-Option-Command-Eject key
(or Power key if you have a MacBook Air).

Instructions for resetting the PRAM

Shut down your computer, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option,
R and P. With these held down, press the Power key once, keeping the four
keys held down until you've heard the start up chime four times. Release the
four keys and the machine will boot normally.


Repairing permissions

Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u).
Open Disk Utility.
Select your HD in the table.
Make sure that First Aid is selected.
Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
You can follow the progress of the repair by going up to the Results table
and interacting with it.
You can press Cmd-q from within the table.

Your trackpad is reacting normally as that is the way a sighted person moves
the mouse pointer.

Which level of the OS are you using? Mountain Lion or Mavericks?

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:27, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Chris
 
 Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
 keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.
 
 I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?
 
 Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with
one
 finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
 turn something else off?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have
the
 escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
 corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
 delete/backspace key is the eject key.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 
 
 Hi Andy and Chris
 
 I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck,
and
 I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.
 
 Can I carry out a forced shut down?
 
 Henry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: please can someone advise?
 
 Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do,
I
 find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
 give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
 you too -
 
 Andy
 On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi again
  
 I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
 busy.
 When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu
bar
 so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
 busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
 information?
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: please can someone advise?
 
 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO
is
 saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
 cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
 the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
 Also, when I turn the trackpad

RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Chris

Many thanks for your explanation, I'll stay with the existing preferences
settings-keeping it all simple for my benefit.

best wishes

Henry



 
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 23:45
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

It's not really so much correct nor is it incorrect.  It's just a
preference.  If you like it doing that, then great!  It could come in
helpful at times, as you can move your mouse and know what you're hoverring
over.  If you do want to turn it off, go into your voiceover preferences
with vo+F8, If that won't work, try fn+vo+F8.  Then interact with the
categories table, and go down to navigation.  There should be a setting in
here to disable that function.  If you need the absolute specifics, let me
know.  I haven't set any of my 3 macs up to do that, nor have I set my mom's
to do it, but I do remember seeing the option, so if you need me to, my mom
and I can look for ya and try to find the setting specificly.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:27 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Chris

Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.

I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?

Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with one
finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
turn something else off?

best wishes

Henry
 




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
delete/backspace key is the eject key.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi again
   
 I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
 When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
 so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
 busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
 information?
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: please can someone advise?
 
 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
 saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
 cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
 the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
 Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
 anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
 what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
 
 Any help will be most appreciated
 best wishes
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility

please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi I have been trying Itunes, pages and I think when the problem started I
was on the finder window.

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi again

I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is busy.
When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
busy-can I execute a forced shut down?

Henry
 


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi again
   
 I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
 When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
 so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
 busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
 information?
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: please can someone advise?
 
 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
 saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
 cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
 the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
 Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
 anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
 what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
 
 Any help will be most appreciated
 best wishes
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
 
 Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
 Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
 I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
 best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
 they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
 it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
 absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
 imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
 incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
 cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
 Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
 Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Chris

Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.

I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?

Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with one
finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
turn something else off?

best wishes

Henry
 




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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
delete/backspace key is the eject key.

Chris.
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi again
   
 I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
 When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
 so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
 busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
 
 What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
 information?
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: please can someone advise?
 
 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
 saying is busy when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
 cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
 the mac  - I'm panicking a little smiles.
 Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
 anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
 what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
 
 Any help will be most appreciated
 best wishes
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
 Gilland
 Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
 
 Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
 Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
 I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
 best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
 they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
 it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
 absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
 imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
 incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
 cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
 Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
 Chris.
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RE: Skype account?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

I have been following the thread on deleting a skype account and I would
like to ask a couple of questions.

If I create a skype account using a windows 7 home premium platform, would I
be able to use my Mac Book Pro to access the same account?  If yes, then
presumably I would have to download skype to my Mac Book Pro?

Best wishes

Henry


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RE: Skype account?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Josh

Many thanks

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
Sent: 13 November 2013 13:59
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Skype account?

Yes you can, and yes you would have to download it to your MacBook.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been following the thread on deleting a skype account and I would
 like to ask a couple of questions.
 
 If I create a skype account using a windows 7 home premium platform, would
I
 be able to use my Mac Book Pro to access the same account?  If yes, then
 presumably I would have to download skype to my Mac Book Pro?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: Skype account?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

OK that fine-thank you.

Best wishes
Henry


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 13 November 2013 14:22
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Skype account?

Hey folks. I have a list where skype questions of this and other kinds can
be discussed. To subscribe send a blank message to 
skypeenglish-subscr...@emissives.com

and we can move this thread and all future skype threads to the list.

to answer your question yes you have to dl skype for mac. It's very easy to
use and we do discuss it on the skype english list.

Take care.
On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi 
 
 I have been following the thread on deleting a skype account and I would
 like to ask a couple of questions.
 
 If I create a skype account using a windows 7 home premium platform, would
I
 be able to use my Mac Book Pro to access the same account?  If yes, then
 presumably I would have to download skype to my Mac Book Pro?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: pages on mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

Sorry for the very basic question, but how do I update to the latest version
of pages?

Kind regards

Henry


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: 29 October 2013 19:13
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: pages on mac

While I  acknowledge the limitations Ann mentions are important to keep in
mind, I can't bring myself to be unhappy with the  new Pages. It's entirely
possible that mail merge fields and date formatting will be reinstated in a
future update. I'm not as concerned about the style issue, as I believe
techniques still exist for being aware of which style is set, and I don't
need to worry about them in general as much as some people might.e
I find the increased accessibility in most all other areas quite compelling,
myself. I must emphasize that if you don't find a feature you want in the
program, feedback should be provided to Apple or their accessibility team
directly.
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Doug,
 
 The new `pages for Mac is indeed much simpler to use but, unfortunately,
it's also a much simplified application with many functions missing that
used to be there.
 
 As long as you don't want to use merge fields, have a choice in the date
format or want a quick way of setting paragraph styles and knowing which
style is set, Pages works fine.
 
 Personally, I'm not at all happy about the new Pages.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 16:13, Rudolph, Douglas douglas.rudo...@usask.ca
wrote:
 
 Hey guys. has anyone had issues with the new version of pages?  This
version looks to me to be more functional and usable for me  no more using
the inspector to do everything, because of the format bar now being visible
to voice over. So what I'm asking, what are some pointers, or if anyone has
had any problems, have you found a work around?
 thanks
 doug
 
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RE: pages on mac

[Henry Miller]

Hi Ann

As we are new to the mac, bearing in mind your reply, I think it's best if
we stay with Mountain Lion and IWorks version 9 at the moment.  Just trying
to keep everything simple smiles.


Kind regards

Henry




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: 30 October 2013 16:59
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: pages on mac

Hello Henry,

The new version of Pages is only available once you upgrade to Mavericks. It
will then show up in the Mac Appstore.

Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Oct 2013, at 09:56, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 Hi 
 
 Sorry for the very basic question, but how do I update to the latest
version
 of pages?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
 Sent: 29 October 2013 19:13
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: pages on mac
 
 While I  acknowledge the limitations Ann mentions are important to keep in
 mind, I can't bring myself to be unhappy with the  new Pages. It's
entirely
 possible that mail merge fields and date formatting will be reinstated in
a
 future update. I'm not as concerned about the style issue, as I believe
 techniques still exist for being aware of which style is set, and I don't
 need to worry about them in general as much as some people might.e
 I find the increased accessibility in most all other areas quite
compelling,
 myself. I must emphasize that if you don't find a feature you want in the
 program, feedback should be provided to Apple or their accessibility team
 directly.
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Doug,
 
 The new `pages for Mac is indeed much simpler to use but, unfortunately,
 it's also a much simplified application with many functions missing that
 used to be there.
 
 As long as you don't want to use merge fields, have a choice in the date
 format or want a quick way of setting paragraph styles and knowing which
 style is set, Pages works fine.
 
 Personally, I'm not at all happy about the new Pages.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 16:13, Rudolph, Douglas douglas.rudo...@usask.ca
 wrote:
 
 Hey guys. has anyone had issues with the new version of pages?  This
 version looks to me to be more functional and usable for me  no more using
 the inspector to do everything, because of the format bar now being
visible
 to voice over. So what I'm asking, what are some pointers, or if anyone
has
 had any problems, have you found a work around?
 thanks
 doug
 
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RE: slow keystroke echo on a mac book pro?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Brian

Many thanks for your advice.  
I am slowly starting to learn to create files etc in  Pages and have noticed
the slowness of the echo of the keystrokes when either typing the name of a
file or within the edit area of a created document.  It also happens in
Safari when typing within the edit area of the search engine.  

I am using the latest version of Mountain Lion and version 09 of IWorks.  

Best wishes

Henry

 
 

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Jones
Sent: 23 October 2013 23:01
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: slow keystroke echo on a mac book pro?

Hi Henry,

Assuming you have your VO typing echo set to speak Characters or
Characters and Words, you should expect to hear the character spoken as
soon as you press each key. The setting is found in the Verbosity / Text
section of the VO Utility.

Is the delay happening for you in all edit fields, or just edit fields in a
specific app or website? For example, does it happen while you are typing in
the body of an email, the login name field on a website, etc?

-Bryan

On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 Whilst inserting text into an edit field, I notice that there is a delay
for
 voice over to announce the key stroke that I have just pressed, Is this
 normal for voice over?

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slow keystroke echo on a mac book pro?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

Whilst inserting text into an edit field, I notice that there is a delay for
voice over to announce the key stroke that I have just pressed, Is this
normal for voice over?

best wishes

Henry


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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy

Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started tutorial
Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
instructions are:
 
1.  When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
2.  Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
(this is where we are stuck)
3.  Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 

We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
commands.
This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
this case for us.

We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
assistance to help.
   
Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.

best wishes

Henry and Angela


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
pitch, speed etc, on the fly -

Andy
On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy

Thanks for your reassuring comments which are much appreciated.  It is
certainly a steep learning curve from using a Pc, but we both love the Mac
Book Pro.  

best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 09 September 2013 11:59
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the
thread that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not
stupid questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to
ask a lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research
for podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this
Mac. I certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn,
and because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem
like you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very
frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it
isn't always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get
use to doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started
tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi All

My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice Over
within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to access
the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  

Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?

Best wishes

Henry
 

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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Sarah

Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.

Best wishes

Henry

 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional speech
verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
settings there.

Tc.
On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:

 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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