Re: Query about MP3 and OGG files
and for me it's totally gapless. except when some players mess it up but Yeah it is totally if done right gapless. On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: FYI, ogg is not lossless, it's lossey compression. Tons of information are being discarded. Some people claim it sounds better than mp3 encoding but it's just not as widely supported. More importantly, the reason why it appeals to some is that there are no licensing fees. On Apr 2, 2010, at 4:17 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi list, Lyn and I were talking earlier, and we were wondering why people continue to use MP3 files when there are lossless formats such as OGG? Some people are able to hear the difference between something ripped at 320 kpbs and 160 kpbs for example. My question is, why do people continue to use MP3s if they lose sound quality? OGG is completely free and open source and much smaller than MP3. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Query about MP3 and OGG files
the good thong is vlc media player is one that supports ogg and it does a farely decent job at it. Tc On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello James, I use MP3 so that all my iTunes library is compatible with my Milestone 311 which I had before getting an iPod. It saves me from messing around converting files. Oh, yes, and my hearing just isn't keen enough anymore to hear the difference. Cheers, Anne On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi list, Lyn and I were talking earlier, and we were wondering why people continue to use MP3 files when there are lossless formats such as OGG? Some people are able to hear the difference between something ripped at 320 kpbs and 160 kpbs for example. My question is, why do people continue to use MP3s if they lose sound quality? OGG is completely free and open source and much smaller than MP3. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Query about MP3 and OGG files
Hi. I have thought of starting to use ogg, but I have not done it yet. I have been looking at some tests at google, and the opinions about which format is the best is defferent. I have made some trials, and to me mp3 still sounds better. I have also heard that ogg changes the sound a little more than mp3. Best regards Annie. 2010/4/3, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com: the good thong is vlc media player is one that supports ogg and it does a farely decent job at it. Tc On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello James, I use MP3 so that all my iTunes library is compatible with my Milestone 311 which I had before getting an iPod. It saves me from messing around converting files. Oh, yes, and my hearing just isn't keen enough anymore to hear the difference. Cheers, Anne On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, James Nash wrote: Hi list, Lyn and I were talking earlier, and we were wondering why people continue to use MP3 files when there are lossless formats such as OGG? Some people are able to hear the difference between something ripped at 320 kpbs and 160 kpbs for example. My question is, why do people continue to use MP3s if they lose sound quality? OGG is completely free and open source and much smaller than MP3. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a question ablout amadeus pro
Hi. I will have to do some batch processing in amadeus pro, I have no problems to choose the right settings, it says I have to drag files or click here, but I can not find any button to klick, and I do not know how to drag files. How can I do that. Have a nice day Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes crashing on me when accessing equalizer
Ray, Instead of deleting anything, go into VoiceOver utility, choose navigation, locate the popup button, which will say something like ignores VoiceOver cursor-mouse cursor or follows VOiceOver cursor-mouse cursor. Make sure it is set to ignores VoiceOver cursor-mouse cursor and that should take care of the problem. Please let me know if it does not. On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: Who ever said they have the issue of ITunes crashing when they access the equalizer, I also am having the same thing happen to me. I really must say, I'm quite dissapointed. Haven't tried deleting my com.Apple.Itunes preferences file yet, but, if this keeps on, I will try that. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
software to record itunes
Hi is there any accessible software to record itunes streams i want to split tracks into separate mp3's. I want it for my ipod shuffle. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My Mac Mini
Bryan, I'm not looking to turn this into a pissing contest because in general I find your posts and such of value and informative. You however are really down on the Mini and for no good reason. Your a power user, so the Mini simply is not for you, but in no way does that mean the Mini is useless. Sure it is an inexpensive way to get into Mac and sure if you want the extras like the Apple keyboard and mouse, you have to purchase those separately, but you aren't required to purchase these items either. I say again and will continue to say that for what most folks are interested in, the Mini is a viable machine. If all you do is surf the web, read e-mail, rip/listen to audio, and even some light-duty photo editing, the Mini is more than capable of all this. The Mini can even handle running Fusion and of course the more VMs you want to run, the more horsepower, drive space, and ram you will require. I really think you are not being objective and are very bias against the Mini for whatever reason. I think you see it as an underpowered toy, which is simply not the case. I have an older G4 Mini sitting here that I have converted to a LInux box and despite the fact it's only a 1.4Ghz processor, 512Mb ram, and 80Gb storage, it works great. I said before it has more to do with needs and I think that is a valid argument. The whole point here Bryan is to make potential switchers understand that the Mini is a viable option for someone who is not a power user such as yourself. Otherwise, some may believe that the Mini is so inadequate, that they would not consider purchasing a Mac because the Macbook or iMac is beyond their Financial reach. Does this make sense? On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: The only things that the Mini has going for it are that it is the least expensive Mac, and that it is the smallest Mac. Being inexpensive doesn't mean that it is a good bargain, though, only that it is the least expensive way to get some kind of Mac. Being small is important for some special situations, like if you want it to be a component in a living room entertainment center, or if you plan to stash it away on a shelf in a closet. Neither of these things make it a good desktop Mac, or even a good deal. If you have no idea if you'll even like a Mac, it is the cheapest commitment to try it out. If you're sure that you want to use a Mac, though, it doesn't make financial sense. The entry level iMac, the 21.5 inch model with the 3Ghz Core Duo CPU, 4GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, and accessories, costs right at $1200. This iMac comes with the full Apple desktop experience. You have a real Apple keyboard and a Mighty Mouse. You don't need to worry about a monitor, because it's built in. Its still a very small computer. The difference is that your Mini lays down on your desk, and the iMac stands up. In some ways, this actually saves you desk space over the Mini. What do you need to get a Mini like that? The Mini doesn't even have a 3Ghz CPU. The 2.66Ghz is the best you can get, and that Mini starts at $949. Pay another $100 to get a 500GB hard drive, like on the iMac. Of course, you'll need a keyboard and mouse like are included with the iMac, and so add an Apple keyboard and magic mouse. Your Mini has no monitor, though, and you'll have to buy one, so you'll need a video adaptor. Final check out is $1,196.00, the exact same thing that you would have paid for the iMac. Not only that, but unlike the iMac, you still don't have a monitor. You can go buy a 20 inch one new for $70 at an office supply store, but it will be a low quality LCD, not the nice wide screen LED display in the iMac. Everything together will cost you almost $1,300. So, when you're finished, you've spent more than you would on an iMac, you have a slower CPU, a slower hard drive, and a lower quality monitor. Not only that, but you have a separate monitor/CPU, instead of a combined unit. That means that your Mini with monitor and keyboard is far less portable than the iMac would have been. Also, for almost the same amount of money, you could have purchased a MacBook with 4GB memory and a 500GB hard drive for $1,249. That would have matched the Mini's performance, since the Mini uses laptop guts anyway, except the MacBook would be extremely portable. Even if you got the cheapest Mini, but still got a $70 cheap-o monitor and accessories, you'll spend over $800. Yes, you saved $400 over getting an iMac. But you have a 2.26Ghz CPU instead of 3Ghz, you have 2GB of memory instead of 4GB, and you have a tini tiny 160GB hard drive. To me, that's pretty much cutting the Mini's performance to half the level of the cheapest iMac, and only saving $400. Not a deal at all. Of course, if your goal is to spend as little as possible on a Mac, then this will do it. It most certainly, though, is not a deal. Bryan -Original Message-
Thanks for answers to MP3 vs OGG
Hi all, Thank you all for your answers regarding the subject line. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: software to record itunes
Hi. I think you can use audio hijack pro. Try it from: www.rogueamoeba.com Have a nice day. Annie 2010/4/3, chad baker baker3...@gmail.com: Hi is there any accessible software to record itunes streams i want to split tracks into separate mp3's. I want it for my ipod shuffle. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just paired macbook with windows mobile phone.
Well, Isync was a bit of a bust. It wouldn't see my phone even though it was paired, which is obnoctious. Missingsync looks like a better option, but I think I need a missingsync driver for my phone. It's taking a while because I have to update to missingsync 2.5 from 1.5 and that's not going smoothly for some reason. also, I seem to have broken my phone in as far as the sim card, which may be another issue. Some programs don't work too well without a sim. I'll get this now though. The bit is clamped firmly between my teeth and I have a whole long weekend to play. Best, Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-04-02, at 2:38 PM, Esther wrote: Congrats, Erik, I think you can may be able use iSync to transfer you contact data now that you've paired your device. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: Guys, I! Am! Stoked! I just paired my windows mobile pocket PC with my macbook and now I can send and receive files two and from the phone using my mac. I am ecstatic at this moment in time. I'm so happy, I think I might even try to rip my contacts and calender from this thing. If it works then that will be one less use for my rusty crusty old virtual machine. *rubs hands together with glee* Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just paired macbook with windows mobile phone.
Well, my phone and mbp let me choose the key, so I simply selected no passkey on both devices. You can also choose to assign a passkey to both devices, but my phone gives me very little time to enter a key, and I was failing, so I opted to go without a passkey. Best, Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-04-02, at 4:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: and how did you pair yoru macboook with our phone if you could not ssee the code for pairing? and how On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Esther wrote: Congrats, Erik, I think you can may be able use iSync to transfer you contact data now that you've paired your device. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: Guys, I! Am! Stoked! I just paired my windows mobile pocket PC with my macbook and now I can send and receive files two and from the phone using my mac. I am ecstatic at this moment in time. I'm so happy, I think I might even try to rip my contacts and calender from this thing. If it works then that will be one less use for my rusty crusty old virtual machine. *rubs hands together with glee* Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
An Itunes store issue
Hi folks. I have purchased an item from the Itunes store, namely a music download and now it turns out that in one of the songs it sounds like the cd from which the song was taken got stuck for a little while. Is there any possibility of complaining on the itunes store, and if so, how? I've searched through the store but have yet to find an answer to this problem. Could somebody please help me out? Many thanks in advance /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An Itunes store issue
If I were you I would call 1-800-my-apple and explain the situation to customer service. They may direct you to someone else but hang in they are pretty good about solving this sort of problem. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.comwrote: Hi folks. I have purchased an item from the Itunes store, namely a music download and now it turns out that in one of the songs it sounds like the cd from which the song was taken got stuck for a little while. Is there any possibility of complaining on the itunes store, and if so, how? I've searched through the store but have yet to find an answer to this problem. Could somebody please help me out? Many thanks in advance /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commacvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Reporting problems with iTunes Store Purchases [was Re: An Itunes store issue]
Hi Krister, I'll point you to the Apple Support document on How to Report an Issue with your iTunes Store Purchase: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1933 If you check your account purchase history, you'll be able to view the transaction record for your purchase and copy the order number. Then you can use item chooser menu to locate the Report a problem button. Press it (VO-Space), and then paste in the information about the order number and date, identify the track, and describe the problem. They'll be able to check the track based on your information and, if there's a problem, correct it so you can download a good version, or credit you for the purchase if they can't provide a satisfactory version. You get an email response within 24 hours, and I think they can do a live chat session if you need to interact with them in real time as a follow up. 1. Navigate to View My Account in the Store menu on the menu bar (VO- M to menu bar, press s to go to Store, arrow down, press v to View My Account, and return). 2. Enter your password in the dialog window for your account and return 3. Use item chooser menu to find the Purchase History button and press it (VO-Space). 4. The purchase history page will contain a list of all your purchases with the latest one at the top. Copy the date and order number information. (You can use the VO-Shift-C last phrase copied to pasteboard shortcut, then Command-V to paste in your report of the problem in the next step). 5. Use item chooser to find the Report problem button and press (VO- Space). You should give your transaction information (including date and order number) with your report. When you're finished, press the Done button to leave your account page and return to where you were in iTunes. Things may be a bit busy today at the iTunes Store with the launch of the iPad if you find it slow to log in. HTH Cheers, Esther On 2 Apr 2010, at 08:58, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi folks. I have purchased an item from the Itunes store, namely a music download and now it turns out that in one of the songs it sounds like the cd from which the song was taken got stuck for a little while. Is there any possibility of complaining on the itunes store, and if so, how? I've searched through the store but have yet to find an answer to this problem. Could somebody please help me out? Many thanks in advance /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Reporting problems with iTunes Store Purchases [was Re: An Itunes store issue]
Hi Krister, I'm going to give you the email contact link for the iTunes Store Customer service: http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact.html Your iTunes account page interface now seems to take you to the support FAQ page when you use the Report a Problem, rather than bringing up the contact email so you can just type in your question. No reason for you to wander around that page looking for the Email contact. (It does help to identify the date and order number of your purchase, though). I've only ever had to contact Customer service twice, and the interface was simpler then. HTH Cheers, Esther On 3 Apr 2010, Esther wrote: Hi Krister, I'll point you to the Apple Support document on How to Report an Issue with your iTunes Store Purchase: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1933 If you check your account purchase history, you'll be able to view the transaction record for your purchase and copy the order number. Then you can use item chooser menu to locate the Report a problem button. Press it (VO-Space), and then paste in the information about the order number and date, identify the track, and describe the problem. They'll be able to check the track based on your information and, if there's a problem, correct it so you can download a good version, or credit you for the purchase if they can't provide a satisfactory version. You get an email response within 24 hours, and I think they can do a live chat session if you need to interact with them in real time as a follow up. 1. Navigate to View My Account in the Store menu on the menu bar (VO-M to menu bar, press s to go to Store, arrow down, press v to View My Account, and return). 2. Enter your password in the dialog window for your account and return 3. Use item chooser menu to find the Purchase History button and press it (VO-Space). 4. The purchase history page will contain a list of all your purchases with the latest one at the top. Copy the date and order number information. (You can use the VO-Shift-C last phrase copied to pasteboard shortcut, then Command-V to paste in your report of the problem in the next step). 5. Use item chooser to find the Report problem button and press (VO-Space). You should give your transaction information (including date and order number) with your report. When you're finished, press the Done button to leave your account page and return to where you were in iTunes. Things may be a bit busy today at the iTunes Store with the launch of the iPad if you find it slow to log in. HTH Cheers, Esther On 2 Apr 2010, at 08:58, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi folks. I have purchased an item from the Itunes store, namely a music download and now it turns out that in one of the songs it sounds like the cd from which the song was taken got stuck for a little while. Is there any possibility of complaining on the itunes store, and if so, how? I've searched through the store but have yet to find an answer to this problem. Could somebody please help me out? Many thanks in advance /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My Mac Mini
Scott, I think your point about the mini as a good entry point for potential switchers is an excellent one. I never would have laid out the $ for an Imac. We have plenty of monitors around here, so buying a monitor was not a issue We also have mice, so ditto there, no need to get one. Yes, I did have to buy a keyboard, because the keyboard we have are all ps2, so that was a nonstarter. But the trade off there is I got one I like the feel of better than what comes standard these days on the Imac, and its Bluetooth to boot, so I am anticipating having more uses for it than just with my mini. I got the middle model of the mini, not the very cheapest one, because I wanted a larger hard drive and the 4gb of ram. For what I want, web surfing, email, word processing and music listening and organizing, the mini is fine. the only thing I haven't done yet that I want to do is scan and ocr, but that is a function of me not being able to find a satisfactory efficient solution for the Mac, rather than a limitation of this particular Mac. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Voiceover on ipad
Hello everyone. I've just been looking at the user guide for the ipad on Apple's support site and it mentions VO as usual. It looks like VO is going to behave similar to that which is found on the iphone accept there is a 4 finger gesture for moving between sections of screen or something. No mention of what voice is on the ipad though. Also, it says for more info on the accessibility built in to ipad to go to the apple accessibility pages so I'm hoping that our friends won't be long in updating the accessibility site with ipad goodness. Sorry for such a long post. Enjoy. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voiceover on ipad
I am really looking forward to hearing about keyboard access with vo. Since there is none with an iphone, since you can't use an external keyboard with that device, I hope that limitation hasn't also been imposed on the Ipad. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Interesting article on iPad
I can't wait for some audio from the iPad's voiceover is put up. How does the speaker sound? Who's daring enough to upload a quick mp3? From: olivianor...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Interesting article on iPad Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:58:57 -0400 Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
The speaker is great. If someone can tell me how to upload one, I would be delighted to! :) On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: I can't wait for some audio from the iPad's voiceover is put up. How does the speaker sound? Who's daring enough to upload a quick mp3? From: olivianor...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Interesting article on iPad Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:58:57 -0400 Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
ooh!!! you have one? details please? what's it like!!! what voice? how is it different? give us some 411 On 2010-04-03, at 9:58 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
It is similar to an iPhone in many ways. The voice sounds the same and is turned on inn the same way. I need to play more with ibookks and iWork but I think itt will make a great note taker and book reader. My music and the voice sound great on the speakers. I would be happy to demo it on someones show or podcast just let me know! Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Jessica and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote: ooh!!! you have one? details please? what's it like!!! what voice? how is it different? give us some 411 On 2010-04-03, at 9:58 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Hi have a networking question
Hello to everyone on the list. I am curius about something. I am getting a wirless router in a few days and will be going wirless. I have a windows pc and a mac. If I setup file sharing on the pc side, Is there a way I can have my mac see the pc:? I want to be able to have my mac be able to have itunes point to my pcs music folder so that the contentenc can be plaied on the mac. How does the air tunes work? Matthew -- Contact infio. MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com yahoo: md1616 skype: graduater2004 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voiceover on ipad
The keyboard doc hasn't shipped yet, but I will let you know when I am able to use it. Right now, the problem is that if you only have one bluetooth keyboard it can only be paired with one device at a time, so, I would have to unpair it from my iMac to pair it with my iPad. At the moment, I don't know of a way to get it paired back with my iMac with out sighted assistance using a mouse. If someone knows how to do this, I will gladly try it before I get my keyboard doc and let you all know how it goes. Olivia On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I am really looking forward to hearing about keyboard access with vo. Since there is none with an iphone, since you can't use an external keyboard with that device, I hope that limitation hasn't also been imposed on the Ipad. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voiceover on ipad
The voice is the same as on the iPhone. It is turned on in the same way, and the keyboard is the same, only larger, which I like. Olivia On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hello everyone. I've just been looking at the user guide for the ipad on Apple's support site and it mentions VO as usual. It looks like VO is going to behave similar to that which is found on the iphone accept there is a 4 finger gesture for moving between sections of screen or something. No mention of what voice is on the ipad though. Also, it says for more info on the accessibility built in to ipad to go to the apple accessibility pages so I'm hoping that our friends won't be long in updating the accessibility site with ipad goodness. Sorry for such a long post. Enjoy. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question ablout amadeus pro
Hi Annie, I'm going to try to remember, I did this for the first time last week, and haven't done it since. Once you've set everything, go over to where it says click here. Now, you'll have to root mouse to voice over. by holding control, option, command, and if you're on a macbook, the function key also. with f5. After that, you hit vo, shift, space bar to click, and then you'll get a dialog. I did something wrong because the quality I ended up with was awful even though it was suppose to be 64kbt, so I'll have to try it again soon. Jorge -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes crashing on me when accessing equalizer
hello I am have the same experience as you gusy with itunes crashing when I try and access the EQ with tVO running I hope they fix it soon On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: Who ever said they have the issue of ITunes crashing when they access the equalizer, I also am having the same thing happen to me. I really must say, I'm quite dissapointed. Haven't tried deleting my com.Apple.Itunes preferences file yet, but, if this keeps on, I will try that. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes crashing on me when accessing equalizer
my VO was already set that way and the problem still is not fixed over here On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Ray, Instead of deleting anything, go into VoiceOver utility, choose navigation, locate the popup button, which will say something like ignores VoiceOver cursor-mouse cursor or follows VOiceOver cursor-mouse cursor. Make sure it is set to ignores VoiceOver cursor-mouse cursor and that should take care of the problem. Please let me know if it does not. On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: Who ever said they have the issue of ITunes crashing when they access the equalizer, I also am having the same thing happen to me. I really must say, I'm quite dissapointed. Haven't tried deleting my com.Apple.Itunes preferences file yet, but, if this keeps on, I will try that. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
wow. so it's the samantha voice. still, very cool!! I can't wait til the mac boutique, the kind of apple store but not official apple store near where I live gets them in!! I wanna see one so bad!! On 2010-04-03, at 12:42 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: It is similar to an iPhone in many ways. The voice sounds the same and is turned on inn the same way. I need to play more with ibookks and iWork but I think itt will make a great note taker and book reader. My music and the voice sound great on the speakers. I would be happy to demo it on someones show or podcast just let me know! Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Jessica and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote: ooh!!! you have one? details please? what's it like!!! what voice? how is it different? give us some 411 On 2010-04-03, at 9:58 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Interesting article on iPad
Yes it is the same voice. Olivia Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Jessica and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote: wow. so it's the samantha voice. still, very cool!! I can't wait til the mac boutique, the kind of apple store but not official apple store near where I live gets them in!! I wanna see one so bad!! On 2010-04-03, at 12:42 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: It is similar to an iPhone in many ways. The voice sounds the same and is turned on inn the same way. I need to play more with ibookks and iWork but I think itt will make a great note taker and book reader. My music and the voice sound great on the speakers. I would be happy to demo it on someones show or podcast just let me know! Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Jessica and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote: ooh!!! you have one? details please? what's it like!!! what voice? how is it different? give us some 411 On 2010-04-03, at 9:58 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Very true! I purchased an iPad this morning and am loving it! It will be a wonderful tool for me though everyone has different needs so what works for some will not work for others. Olivia Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: This merely underscores the point that several people on this list have made re:technology, and that is, know your own needs! On 2010-04-02, at 5:37 PM, mani wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193280/apple_ipad_just_say_no.html Enjoy. mani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
labeling buttons, unknowns, and blank areas?
hello how do I label unlabeled buttons, unknowns, and blank areas with vo on snow labeled? once I label these things how do I save them and a. share them with another user and b. reload them if I should ever want to use them on another mac. thanks Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Selecting links in Syrinx
Hi, Can anyone tell me how to select a link in a tweet in syrinx and then open it in safari. I have looked in the menus on syrinx and it's telling me I should press cmd L and shift but this doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried interacting with the tweet text and making sure am on the url but this again doesn't seem to do anything. All help gratefully received, cheers, Phil --- Phil Stephenson p...@thestephensons.org 07841 714931 www.twitter.com/stepphil Skype = philstephenson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Selecting links in Syrinx
Good afternoon Phil, When on a tweet Cmd + Shift + L will open any URLs in the tweet in your default browser. Note that if the link is not a properly formatted URL starting with http:// that they may not open. HTH, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-04-03, at 5:24 PM, phil stephenson wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to select a link in a tweet in syrinx and then open it in safari. I have looked in the menus on syrinx and it's telling me I should press cmd L and shift but this doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried interacting with the tweet text and making sure am on the url but this again doesn't seem to do anything. All help gratefully received, cheers, Phil --- Phil Stephenson p...@thestephensons.org 07841 714931 www.twitter.com/stepphil Skype = philstephenson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: labeling buttons, unknowns, and blank areas?
Hi Hank. To make lables, when you have something you want to label press vo+shift+7 and write the text, you must of course have the voiceOver cursor placed on the button, unknown or what you want to label. It is a great feature, I found out how to do it in this week, because I looked for something else. I can tell you that it is easy to export your labels. If you open voiceover, and go to export, when you can save them, remember to choose labels in the menu in the middle. You get a file called voiceover labels or what you choose to name it. I have not tried to import labels yet, but I guess it is as simple as export labels. Have a nice day. Annie. 2010/4/3, hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com: hello how do I label unlabeled buttons, unknowns, and blank areas with vo on snow labeled? once I label these things how do I save them and a. share them with another user and b. reload them if I should ever want to use them on another mac. thanks Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Selecting links in Syrinx
Command shift l Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:24 PM, phil stephenson p...@thestephensons.org wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to select a link in a tweet in syrinx and then open it in safari. I have looked in the menus on syrinx and it's telling me I should press cmd L and shift but this doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried interacting with the tweet text and making sure am on the url but this again doesn't seem to do anything. All help gratefully received, cheers, Phil --- Phil Stephenson p...@thestephensons.org 07841 714931 www.twitter.com/stepphil Skype = philstephenson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Selecting links in Syrinx
If it doesn't seem to work, after hitting the command-shift-l combination, try hitting command-tab to go to your Safari window. I find that sometimes when I use the command-shift-l, it actually does open the link, but it does not automatically put the focus on the Safari window so I have to command-tab over to it. It's not really a problem, it's just something I've noticed. On Apr 3, 2010, at 5:44 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good afternoon Phil, When on a tweet Cmd + Shift + L will open any URLs in the tweet in your default browser. Note that if the link is not a properly formatted URL starting with http:// that they may not open. HTH, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-04-03, at 5:24 PM, phil stephenson wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to select a link in a tweet in syrinx and then open it in safari. I have looked in the menus on syrinx and it's telling me I should press cmd L and shift but this doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried interacting with the tweet text and making sure am on the url but this again doesn't seem to do anything. All help gratefully received, cheers, Phil --- Phil Stephenson p...@thestephensons.org 07841 714931 www.twitter.com/stepphil Skype = philstephenson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: My Mac Mini
Scott, I think that I agree with you in principle. The Mini is great for accomplishing basic tasks. It is great for someone that wants to try Mac. It is a neat little computer for the price and size. All that I'm saying, though, is that I don't think that it is the best value. If you want to get the most for your money, the entry level iMac and MacBook do a lot more than a Mini would at the same price. So, switchers and people that are trying out Mac will have a good affordable time with the entry level Mini. If someone wanted to try Mac, though, they should get the absolute basic Mini configuration, so that they can take advantage of the very low price. If they start upgrading the Mini's processor, memory, and hard drive, they'll spend so much on the upgrades that they would get more computer for their money by buying an iMac or MacBook instead. That's what I mean when I say that, with $1,200 in hand, using that same money will get you an iMac that is twice as powerful as the Mini that you'd buy for the same price. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Mac Mini Bryan, I'm not looking to turn this into a pissing contest because in general I find your posts and such of value and informative. You however are really down on the Mini and for no good reason. Your a power user, so the Mini simply is not for you, but in no way does that mean the Mini is useless. Sure it is an inexpensive way to get into Mac and sure if you want the extras like the Apple keyboard and mouse, you have to purchase those separately, but you aren't required to purchase these items either. I say again and will continue to say that for what most folks are interested in, the Mini is a viable machine. If all you do is surf the web, read e-mail, rip/listen to audio, and even some light-duty photo editing, the Mini is more than capable of all this. The Mini can even handle running Fusion and of course the more VMs you want to run, the more horsepower, drive space, and ram you will require. I really think you are not being objective and are very bias against the Mini for whatever reason. I think you see it as an underpowered toy, which is simply not the case. I have an older G4 Mini sitting here that I have converted to a LInux box and despite the fact it's only a 1.4Ghz processor, 512Mb ram, and 80Gb storage, it works great. I said before it has more to do with needs and I think that is a valid argument. The whole point here Bryan is to make potential switchers understand that the Mini is a viable option for someone who is not a power user such as yourself. Otherwise, some may believe that the Mini is so inadequate, that they would not consider purchasing a Mac because the Macbook or iMac is beyond their Financial reach. Does this make sense? On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: The only things that the Mini has going for it are that it is the least expensive Mac, and that it is the smallest Mac. Being inexpensive doesn't mean that it is a good bargain, though, only that it is the least expensive way to get some kind of Mac. Being small is important for some special situations, like if you want it to be a component in a living room entertainment center, or if you plan to stash it away on a shelf in a closet. Neither of these things make it a good desktop Mac, or even a good deal. If you have no idea if you'll even like a Mac, it is the cheapest commitment to try it out. If you're sure that you want to use a Mac, though, it doesn't make financial sense. The entry level iMac, the 21.5 inch model with the 3Ghz Core Duo CPU, 4GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, and accessories, costs right at $1200. This iMac comes with the full Apple desktop experience. You have a real Apple keyboard and a Mighty Mouse. You don't need to worry about a monitor, because it's built in. Its still a very small computer. The difference is that your Mini lays down on your desk, and the iMac stands up. In some ways, this actually saves you desk space over the Mini. What do you need to get a Mini like that? The Mini doesn't even have a 3Ghz CPU. The 2.66Ghz is the best you can get, and that Mini starts at $949. Pay another $100 to get a 500GB hard drive, like on the iMac. Of course, you'll need a keyboard and mouse like are included with the iMac, and so add an Apple keyboard and magic mouse. Your Mini has no monitor, though, and you'll have to buy one, so you'll need a video adaptor. Final check out is $1,196.00, the exact same thing that you would have paid for the iMac. Not only that, but unlike the iMac, you still don't have a monitor. You can go buy a 20 inch one new for $70 at an office supply store, but it will be a low quality LCD, not the nice wide screen LED display in
Re: just paired macbook with windows mobile phone.
My phoen won't connect at all even though it is paired and isync sais mjy phone is not supported. sucky! On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, Isync was a bit of a bust. It wouldn't see my phone even though it was paired, which is obnoctious. Missingsync looks like a better option, but I think I need a missingsync driver for my phone. It's taking a while because I have to update to missingsync 2.5 from 1.5 and that's not going smoothly for some reason. also, I seem to have broken my phone in as far as the sim card, which may be another issue. Some programs don't work too well without a sim. I'll get this now though. The bit is clamped firmly between my teeth and I have a whole long weekend to play. Best, Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-04-02, at 2:38 PM, Esther wrote: Congrats, Erik, I think you can may be able use iSync to transfer you contact data now that you've paired your device. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: Guys, I! Am! Stoked! I just paired my windows mobile pocket PC with my macbook and now I can send and receive files two and from the phone using my mac. I am ecstatic at this moment in time. I'm so happy, I think I might even try to rip my contacts and calender from this thing. If it works then that will be one less use for my rusty crusty old virtual machine. *rubs hands together with glee* Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: software to record itunes
Yes you can. just Hijack the itunes session and play the stream in real time. On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. I think you can use audio hijack pro. Try it from: www.rogueamoeba.com Have a nice day. Annie 2010/4/3, chad baker baker3...@gmail.com: Hi is there any accessible software to record itunes streams i want to split tracks into separate mp3's. I want it for my ipod shuffle. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible games
Chad. I am not sure about card games. If you are looking for a client for muds then tintin++ works good. I cannot remember the website though. Also. I think there is a text game adventurer program available for the mac. But I don't remember what it is called. As for gaming in general there are several games that are web based that work well. Such as kingdom of loathing torncity furry-paws and others. It really depends what your interests might be. Card games I just don't know. Jessica -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just paired macbook with windows mobile phone.
Hi, Here's the link to the Apple Knowledge Base article for the mobile phones that are supported through iSync under Mac OS X 10.4, 10.5, and 10.6: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2824 In addition to the phones supported directly by Apple's iSync application listed in the document, some additional phones may have iSync plug-ins that will provide this support. This is particularly true for newer model phones if the manufacturer provides a plug-in. I think the Windows Mobile phones are probably not compatible and the manufacturers generally choose not to provide plug-ins that would make it easy to transfer information to a Mac. Sorry if my comments were misleading; I was in the middle of giving directions on how to migrate contacts for someone using a Nokia phone on another list. For the Windows Mobile platform, your best bet is probably to use the Missing Sync ($39.95), as Erik mentioned: http://www.markspace.com/products/windowsmobile/mac/windows-mobile-sync-software.html Other than that, I've heard that you can migrate contacts from your PC to your Mac Address Book using Thunderbird. Here's one (older) page that turned up in a Google Search: http://www.neilturner.me.uk/2007/08/21/thunderbird_and_mac_os_x.html I don't have any experience with the Windows side of things, though. If you were trying to go phone to phone, there's a way to migrate the phone contacts over to an iPhone, for example, by simply inserting the sim card and then going to Settings Mail, Contacts, Calendars and double tapping the Import SIM Contacts option. This may not give you the formatting that you want, though. Again, this is for the iPhone, and only based on my reading, no direct experience. I suspect that this sort of information can be found in the Take Control of Switching to the Mac eBook. HTH Cheers, Esther On 3 Apr 2010, Sarah Alawami wrote: My phoen won't connect at all even though it is paired and isync sais mjy phone is not supported. sucky! On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, Isync was a bit of a bust. It wouldn't see my phone even though it was paired, which is obnoctious. Missingsync looks like a better option, but I think I need a missingsync driver for my phone. It's taking a while because I have to update to missingsync 2.5 from 1.5 and that's not going smoothly for some reason. also, I seem to have broken my phone in as far as the sim card, which may be another issue. Some programs don't work too well without a sim. I'll get this now though. The bit is clamped firmly between my teeth and I have a whole long weekend to play. Best, Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-04-02, at 2:38 PM, Esther wrote: Congrats, Erik, I think you can may be able use iSync to transfer you contact data now that you've paired your device. Cheers, Esther erik burggraaf wrote: Guys, I! Am! Stoked! I just paired my windows mobile pocket PC with my macbook and now I can send and receive files two and from the phone using my mac. I am ecstatic at this moment in time. I'm so happy, I think I might even try to rip my contacts and calender from this thing. If it works then that will be one less use for my rusty crusty old virtual machine. *rubs hands together with glee* Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My Mac Mini
Well, you make a good point, but, you need to check current configurations. You can get a mini with 320GB drive, 4GB ram and a 2.53GHZ processor for $799. Yes, if you have to buy a keyboard, mouse and monitor, the price jumps. However, a lot of us came over from windows and already had those devices. The bottom line is that for $400 less your only giving up a faster drive and a tiny bit of CPU speed. Yes, the monitor is included and will make things more compact. if I were sighted, I would have jumped at the IMac, the monitor is beautiful. Unfortunately,I have an older mini and they only offered 2GB of ram at the time. Over all though, I will admit that a Imac would have been a better deal for me. On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: The only things that the Mini has going for it are that it is the least expensive Mac, and that it is the smallest Mac. Being inexpensive doesn't mean that it is a good bargain, though, only that it is the least expensive way to get some kind of Mac. Being small is important for some special situations, like if you want it to be a component in a living room entertainment center, or if you plan to stash it away on a shelf in a closet. Neither of these things make it a good desktop Mac, or even a good deal. If you have no idea if you'll even like a Mac, it is the cheapest commitment to try it out. If you're sure that you want to use a Mac, though, it doesn't make financial sense. The entry level iMac, the 21.5 inch model with the 3Ghz Core Duo CPU, 4GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, and accessories, costs right at $1200. This iMac comes with the full Apple desktop experience. You have a real Apple keyboard and a Mighty Mouse. You don't need to worry about a monitor, because it's built in. Its still a very small computer. The difference is that your Mini lays down on your desk, and the iMac stands up. In some ways, this actually saves you desk space over the Mini. What do you need to get a Mini like that? The Mini doesn't even have a 3Ghz CPU. The 2.66Ghz is the best you can get, and that Mini starts at $949. Pay another $100 to get a 500GB hard drive, like on the iMac. Of course, you'll need a keyboard and mouse like are included with the iMac, and so add an Apple keyboard and magic mouse. Your Mini has no monitor, though, and you'll have to buy one, so you'll need a video adaptor. Final check out is $1,196.00, the exact same thing that you would have paid for the iMac. Not only that, but unlike the iMac, you still don't have a monitor. You can go buy a 20 inch one new for $70 at an office supply store, but it will be a low quality LCD, not the nice wide screen LED display in the iMac. Everything together will cost you almost $1,300. So, when you're finished, you've spent more than you would on an iMac, you have a slower CPU, a slower hard drive, and a lower quality monitor. Not only that, but you have a separate monitor/CPU, instead of a combined unit. That means that your Mini with monitor and keyboard is far less portable than the iMac would have been. Also, for almost the same amount of money, you could have purchased a MacBook with 4GB memory and a 500GB hard drive for $1,249. That would have matched the Mini's performance, since the Mini uses laptop guts anyway, except the MacBook would be extremely portable. Even if you got the cheapest Mini, but still got a $70 cheap-o monitor and accessories, you'll spend over $800. Yes, you saved $400 over getting an iMac. But you have a 2.26Ghz CPU instead of 3Ghz, you have 2GB of memory instead of 4GB, and you have a tini tiny 160GB hard drive. To me, that's pretty much cutting the Mini's performance to half the level of the cheapest iMac, and only saving $400. Not a deal at all. Of course, if your goal is to spend as little as possible on a Mac, then this will do it. It most certainly, though, is not a deal. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Mac Mini Brian, the mini uses a 2.26GHZ processor and, while that isn't as much as the 3.06GHZ that the IMac uses,it's certainly close. Yes, the internal drive is a laptop drive, therefore, it runs at 5400 RPM instead of 7200RPM, however, for some people who just use the internet , listen to music, rip CD's, and occasional word processing, it's enough. Your right though, it shouldn't be such a big deal, but, with the other supposed limitations, we knew about them before we bought our mini's, but, the monitor thing, well, it would have been nice to know. On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong. The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of portable, then
Help with audacity
Hi can anyone point me in the direction of some help or tutorials on using Audacity. Specifically I would like to know the keyboard shortcuts for starting, pausing and stopping recording and maybe the basics on how to edit tracks. Tia Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a touch interface. A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on more and more computer functions. We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. J On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: Hello, Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. begin quote I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! end quote On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and model updates. I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. Cheers, Esther Joe Plummer wrote: That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what you are talking about then accept my apology. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard Hi Chris, My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device. Cheers, Esther Chris Blouch wrote: Now that the reviews have been released it turns out the iPad's bluetooth supports using Apple's
Re: Help with audacity
Hi Frank, check out www.icanworkthisthing.com There is a good manual there. And did you download the accessible version from http://audacity.homerow.net/index.php?dir=accessible ? hth On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: Hi can anyone point me in the direction of some help or tutorials on using Audacity. Specifically I would like to know the keyboard shortcuts for starting, pausing and stopping recording and maybe the basics on how to edit tracks. Tia Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
Hi, The apple wireless bluetooth keyboard does not have a touch pad. On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a touch interface. A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on more and more computer functions. We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. J On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: Hello, Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. begin quote I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! end quote On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and model updates. I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. Cheers, Esther Joe Plummer wrote: That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what you are talking about then accept my apology. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard Hi Chris, My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device. Cheers,
Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
I guess that's how they manage to sell the magic mouse. heh On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, The apple wireless bluetooth keyboard does not have a touch pad. On Apr 3, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a touch interface. A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on more and more computer functions. We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. J On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: Hello, Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. begin quote I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! end quote On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and model updates. I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. Cheers, Esther Joe Plummer wrote: That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what you are talking about then accept my apology. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard Hi Chris, My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the things that would make reading
Re: My Mac Mini
Bryan, I would agree that for the horsepower an iMac would be a better investment and I wouldn't upgrade the Mini. If someone really wanted a MIni, of course I would get the 2.53Ghz 4Gb ram machine since it has the 320Gb internal drive. Yes it is 5400rpm, but I haven't notice a significant difference between the 5400 or 7200 for most tasks. Of course I have a Macbook Pro, but if I ever replace this machine, I'm going to have the decision to purchase another laptop or just get another iMac. :) Well that will be a few years down the road for sure and by then, who knows what they'll roll out the Apple factory. :) On Apr 3, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Scott, I think that I agree with you in principle. The Mini is great for accomplishing basic tasks. It is great for someone that wants to try Mac. It is a neat little computer for the price and size. All that I'm saying, though, is that I don't think that it is the best value. If you want to get the most for your money, the entry level iMac and MacBook do a lot more than a Mini would at the same price. So, switchers and people that are trying out Mac will have a good affordable time with the entry level Mini. If someone wanted to try Mac, though, they should get the absolute basic Mini configuration, so that they can take advantage of the very low price. If they start upgrading the Mini's processor, memory, and hard drive, they'll spend so much on the upgrades that they would get more computer for their money by buying an iMac or MacBook instead. That's what I mean when I say that, with $1,200 in hand, using that same money will get you an iMac that is twice as powerful as the Mini that you'd buy for the same price. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Mac Mini Bryan, I'm not looking to turn this into a pissing contest because in general I find your posts and such of value and informative. You however are really down on the Mini and for no good reason. Your a power user, so the Mini simply is not for you, but in no way does that mean the Mini is useless. Sure it is an inexpensive way to get into Mac and sure if you want the extras like the Apple keyboard and mouse, you have to purchase those separately, but you aren't required to purchase these items either. I say again and will continue to say that for what most folks are interested in, the Mini is a viable machine. If all you do is surf the web, read e-mail, rip/listen to audio, and even some light-duty photo editing, the Mini is more than capable of all this. The Mini can even handle running Fusion and of course the more VMs you want to run, the more horsepower, drive space, and ram you will require. I really think you are not being objective and are very bias against the Mini for whatever reason. I think you see it as an underpowered toy, which is simply not the case. I have an older G4 Mini sitting here that I have converted to a LInux box and despite the fact it's only a 1.4Ghz processor, 512Mb ram, and 80Gb storage, it works great. I said before it has more to do with needs and I think that is a valid argument. The whole point here Bryan is to make potential switchers understand that the Mini is a viable option for someone who is not a power user such as yourself. Otherwise, some may believe that the Mini is so inadequate, that they would not consider purchasing a Mac because the Macbook or iMac is beyond their Financial reach. Does this make sense? On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: The only things that the Mini has going for it are that it is the least expensive Mac, and that it is the smallest Mac. Being inexpensive doesn't mean that it is a good bargain, though, only that it is the least expensive way to get some kind of Mac. Being small is important for some special situations, like if you want it to be a component in a living room entertainment center, or if you plan to stash it away on a shelf in a closet. Neither of these things make it a good desktop Mac, or even a good deal. If you have no idea if you'll even like a Mac, it is the cheapest commitment to try it out. If you're sure that you want to use a Mac, though, it doesn't make financial sense. The entry level iMac, the 21.5 inch model with the 3Ghz Core Duo CPU, 4GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, and accessories, costs right at $1200. This iMac comes with the full Apple desktop experience. You have a real Apple keyboard and a Mighty Mouse. You don't need to worry about a monitor, because it's built in. Its still a very small computer. The difference is that your Mini lays down on your desk, and the iMac stands up. In some ways, this actually saves you desk space over the Mini. What do you
Itunes and Equalizer Problem
I am having the same problem with Itunes crashing when accessing the equalizer. I did already try telling VO to ignore the not to move the mouse pointer with the VO cursor. This did nothing to solve the problem I don't undersand why some people are having this problem and others are not, it's quite baffling. Yes, I have snowy 10.6.3 and Itunes 9.1. Never had this problem in earlier versions of Itunes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Another article on he iPad
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Re: Itunes
It's weird how some of us are experiencing this problem and not others. I have had no problems myself with the new update. On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Scott Howell wrote: The same experience I have encountered. Please anyone who is having this issue, contact accessibil...@apple.com and let them know. tnx, On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:36 PM, graham wrote: Hi, Having just installed the latest version of Itunes unfortunately without seeing the previous messages today I have found my music somewhat difficult to access. If I type in the artist name such as Genesis, then tab I go directly to the playlist browser, then tabbing again takes me to the artist field and again takes me to the album field. If I then arrow down I can read the various albums however if I either tab or press vo right arrow to go in to the songs table for the album selected, Itunes crashes. If I type in the artist such as Genesis then vo left arrow I can get to the songs table no problem but you can't vo left again as this also crashes Itunes. I also left the search field blank and pressed vo right arrow from the sources table to the songs table where I'd normally get a list of all my music but again this resulted in Itunes crashing. I have tried disc repair with no joy. For my sins I'm using a Macbook 13 inch with 4gb of ram. Hope this info will help someone figure what the issues might be. If anyone knows of a way to roll back Itunes to the previous version I'd love to hear how. Kind regards Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. carlene knight http://carleneknight.blogspot.com ckni...@knight-toolworks.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My Mac Mini
Hi: I did originally get my Mini to try it out as I was a new Mac user, but since I don't do a lot of heavy downloading or stream video, the Mini is plenty fast. I have a lot less problems with it than a lot of people seem to have with the MacBooks. My husband streams movies and videos all of the time with little lag, less than his Windows computer with much more memory had. It doesn't take up much space either. I'm happy with my Mini. Just my two cents worth. It's definitely not a laptop though. On Apr 1, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong. The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of portable, then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not designed it to be a portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work like that, they won't care that you can't make it suit that purpose. Its also not intended to be a headless Mac for blind people. The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only. 1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out. 2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as being a home or small office server. That's it. If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It is powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower laptop hard drives. If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it isn't a portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac. If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't designed to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini to use with their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if they'd like to really use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac with a PC keyboard and mouse means that you miss out on a lot, also. Stil, it is a way to try this stuff to see if you'll like it, or if it will be a waste of money, without forcing you to pay a lot for the chance to try it out. If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't stay with a Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, the capacity won't go any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand very far, the processor is underpowered, so on and so on. Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've become serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then it is time to sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a MacBook, an IMac, or a Mac Pro that will do more. For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse the web, then you really should be using a MacBook. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Mac Mini Hi, It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room within ones house. Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web. Chris On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400 Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was just wondering why people find this so important? Monitors are very cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs. On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook. Take care. On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good evening, Has this issue been reported to accessibil...@apple.com? Perhaps there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a quick message. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote: Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I purchased the mini, but, live and learn. On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote: Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor. Everything went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web page at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a monitor, all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have the monitor powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning to anyone buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it unless you have a monitor attached. Kind regards Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
