Re: Reading the Audio Hijack Pro Manual?
Hi Zack, I am seeing text in the HTML area. The problem is I am only seeing a what's new page and no way to go to other topics in the manual. Doug On 2011-06-05, at 8:34 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Doug, THe manual is in the HTML content area, not the toolbar. You can navigate the contents and such all from the HTML. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hello list: I have been trying to read the Audio Hijack Pro manual but can' seem to figure out how it's done. I open the help menu, click on Audio Hijack Pro manual and am presented with another window. I see an HTML content area and a tool bar. Interacting with the tool bar gives me, among other things, a topics button. Pressing this button I hear a sound like a popup menu or something containing the topic list but I can't seem to access it. Has anyone successfully read this manual? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: switching stations in PianoPub
Hi Brianna, Your third choice was the correct one. You route your mouse cursor to your Vo cursor with vo-command-f5. Then you physically click with the mouse. Like you, I have had instances where this command does not work, and this has not only occured in Pianopub. My suggestion to you would be to hide others with command-option h and then try the command. If that doesn't work, trying hitting zoom and then hiding others. Hth, Rose On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brianna Snyder wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how to switch between stations in PianoPub. I have tried focusing on the name of the station I want in the stations table with the VoiceOver cursor, and then physically clicking the mouse, and I've tried the mouse click keystroke, VO-shift-space. Also, I've tried to route the mouse cursor to the station I want, with Vo-command-F5, and I've done the physical mouse click, as well as the mouse click keystroke. Needless to say, nothing happens. If anyone has suggestions, they would be much appreciated. Aside from this little annoyance, I'm loving PianoPub. Thanks, Brianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ringtones
Hi Ezzie! There should be quite a lot about this in the archives you can make your own for non Iphones but I think you have to pay for Iphone ones! Colin On 6 Jun 2011, at 06:07, Ezzie Buenito wrote: Hello Everyone, I believe its possible to make ringtones on a Mac. Can I send those to any phone or do I specifically need to have an iPhone? How exactly can I make a ringtone? How exactly do I send them to a phone? Any help is appreciated. Best Regards, Ezzie Bueno But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father. --Jesus in Matthew 10:33 Phone: (512) 553-8553 Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Reading the Audio Hijack Pro Manual?
Hi Doug, Apologies. This is what I get for not triple checking myself before I post something. It turns out the contents of the manual is in a drawer which is just next to the HTML content area. You can interact with it and click on one of the links in there to change what's viewed in the main HTML. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Zack, I am seeing text in the HTML area. The problem is I am only seeing a what's new page and no way to go to other topics in the manual. Doug On 2011-06-05, at 8:34 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Doug, THe manual is in the HTML content area, not the toolbar. You can navigate the contents and such all from the HTML. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hello list: I have been trying to read the Audio Hijack Pro manual but can' seem to figure out how it's done. I open the help menu, click on Audio Hijack Pro manual and am presented with another window. I see an HTML content area and a tool bar. Interacting with the tool bar gives me, among other things, a topics button. Pressing this button I hear a sound like a popup menu or something containing the topic list but I can't seem to access it. Has anyone successfully read this manual? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: switching stations in PianoPub
I have been able to click with the trackpad. Make sure the trackpad commander is turned off and that the mouse cursor follows the VO cursor. Also, be sure to give it a double click. -Greg On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Rose Morales wrote: Hi Brianna, Your third choice was the correct one. You route your mouse cursor to your Vo cursor with vo-command-f5. Then you physically click with the mouse. Like you, I have had instances where this command does not work, and this has not only occured in Pianopub. My suggestion to you would be to hide others with command-option h and then try the command. If that doesn't work, trying hitting zoom and then hiding others. Hth, Rose On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brianna Snyder wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how to switch between stations in PianoPub. I have tried focusing on the name of the station I want in the stations table with the VoiceOver cursor, and then physically clicking the mouse, and I've tried the mouse click keystroke, VO-shift-space. Also, I've tried to route the mouse cursor to the station I want, with Vo-command-F5, and I've done the physical mouse click, as well as the mouse click keystroke. Needless to say, nothing happens. If anyone has suggestions, they would be much appreciated. Aside from this little annoyance, I'm loving PianoPub. Thanks, Brianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Two questions about macbook trackpad
OK, lets get the essentials outta the way first. We're dealing with a white parlicarbon stocked mid 2010 macbook running 10.6.7 Snowleopard, 2gb ram, 13 inch display, 250GB hard disk, etc. It's totally stocked, no customizations. Absolutely none. OK, so now that you know what system precisely we're working with here, on to my two questions: 1. Have you all noticed that when trackpad commander is on, it's a lot easier than you'd think when typing for your wrists to accidentally bump the trackpad, causing a flick or some sort of unwanted jesture on the thing, making your focus go haywire? 2. We've been on list discussing piano pub and one person just wrote and said about routing the mouse pointer if it doesn't already follow, then literally speaking with trackpad commander off, literally clicking the actual trackpad. This leads me to a question. If you do this, not just in that context with that application, but I mean more in complete general regardless what app you're in, how do you keep from your finger moving as you drop it on the pad ever so so slightly, causing you to get just enough offset where if you click nothing'll happen? How do you prevent that aside the obvious of practice? Are their any sort of ish good techniques for dropping your finger that can help a bit with that? Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
X-Lite Question.
Hi! I downloaded the X-Lite voip software and installed it on my iMAC but when I call somebody the other part hears a popping sound which accompanies my voice, is there anyway to get rid of this annoyance? I hear the person I am calling very well, regards. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Abisee?
Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Reading the Audio Hijack Pro Manual?
Hi Zack, I found it now. Thanks for pointing this out. Doug On 2011-06-06, at 8:51 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Doug, Apologies. This is what I get for not triple checking myself before I post something. It turns out the contents of the manual is in a drawer which is just next to the HTML content area. You can interact with it and click on one of the links in there to change what's viewed in the main HTML. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Zack, I am seeing text in the HTML area. The problem is I am only seeing a what's new page and no way to go to other topics in the manual. Doug On 2011-06-05, at 8:34 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Doug, THe manual is in the HTML content area, not the toolbar. You can navigate the contents and such all from the HTML. Best, Zack. On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hello list: I have been trying to read the Audio Hijack Pro manual but can' seem to figure out how it's done. I open the help menu, click on Audio Hijack Pro manual and am presented with another window. I see an HTML content area and a tool bar. Interacting with the tool bar gives me, among other things, a topics button. Pressing this button I hear a sound like a popup menu or something containing the topic list but I can't seem to access it. Has anyone successfully read this manual? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Erik, thanks for giving such a detailed response. could you say more about a couple of the things you mentioned? I've been doing a lot of thinking re what I want in terms of braille. One thought that has occurred to me is that I can translate a txt file into brf format on my BSP, so perhaps having the ability to translate it on the Mac is less important. I still have a PC with Duxbury on it, for those rare occasions when I actually need to print out a hard copy in braille. with this in mind, does your assessment of the braille support change at all? Second, what do you mean by terrible keystrokes? Could you give a couple of examples? thanks again, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
FW: Live coverage of the WWDC keynote
-Original Message- From: Gail the U. S. Male [mailto:gailcrowe1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:40 AM To: 'aiph...@yahoogroups.com'; 'viph...@googlegroups.com'; 'macvisionar...@google.com'; 'mac4thebl...@freelists.org' Subject: Live coverage of the WWDC keynote Hi Listers, I'm cross posting this to all the apple related lists I'm on, so, I apologize for the cross posts. I just googled to find out where live coverage of the keynote will be found. I came up with http://www.macrumors.com the site says they'll be covering the keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific time. For those who have trouble converting to their own time zone this is 11:00 Mountain time, 12:00 Central, 1:00 eastern, 2:00 atlantic, for our friends in Canada. I don't know what the Universal time would be. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: switching stations in PianoPub
Good day all! Upon reading this thread, I have downloaded PianoPub myself. I do not currently have an account, therefore I visited http://www.pandora.com to register. However, I have been unable to locate a register link or button as suggested in the FAQ. Am I just missing something, or is voiceover not reading it properly? Thank you for any help you can offer. :-) -- Jenny Wood Phone: (972) 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: I have been able to click with the trackpad. Make sure the trackpad commander is turned off and that the mouse cursor follows the VO cursor. Also, be sure to give it a double click. -Greg On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Rose Morales wrote: Hi Brianna, Your third choice was the correct one. You route your mouse cursor to your Vo cursor with vo-command-f5. Then you physically click with the mouse. Like you, I have had instances where this command does not work, and this has not only occured in Pianopub. My suggestion to you would be to hide others with command-option h and then try the command. If that doesn't work, trying hitting zoom and then hiding others. Hth, Rose On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brianna Snyder wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how to switch between stations in PianoPub. I have tried focusing on the name of the station I want in the stations table with the VoiceOver cursor, and then physically clicking the mouse, and I've tried the mouse click keystroke, VO-shift-space. Also, I've tried to route the mouse cursor to the station I want, with Vo-command-F5, and I've done the physical mouse click, as well as the mouse click keystroke. Needless to say, nothing happens. If anyone has suggestions, they would be much appreciated. Aside from this little annoyance, I'm loving PianoPub. Thanks, Brianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Donna, It sounds like you could get by without braille support since you don't need it to drive the application as some of my clients would. As soon as you save your scanned document as a text file your access is complete for your purposes. I'm happy enough with this arrangement myself but for some of my clients it's no option. Keysrokes, OK, to start reading press the letter E. To speed up the voice on the fly press shift Q. To slow down the speech on the fly press shift Z. I just can't find a good cognitive way to teach this to my clients. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 10:36 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, thanks for giving such a detailed response. could you say more about a couple of the things you mentioned? I've been doing a lot of thinking re what I want in terms of braille. One thought that has occurred to me is that I can translate a txt file into brf format on my BSP, so perhaps having the ability to translate it on the Mac is less important. I still have a PC with Duxbury on it, for those rare occasions when I actually need to print out a hard copy in braille. with this in mind, does your assessment of the braille support change at all? Second, what do you mean by terrible keystrokes? Could you give a couple of examples? thanks again, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hmm. Interesting. It sounds like the keystrokes are based on their physical location on the keyboard, rather than on a letter-word association. I can see where that would be awkward for some. I wonder if it was a way to avoid having to create different keystrokes for different localizations. thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, It sounds like you could get by without braille support since you don't need it to drive the application as some of my clients would. As soon as you save your scanned document as a text file your access is complete for your purposes. I'm happy enough with this arrangement myself but for some of my clients it's no option. Keysrokes, OK, to start reading press the letter E. To speed up the voice on the fly press shift Q. To slow down the speech on the fly press shift Z. I just can't find a good cognitive way to teach this to my clients. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 10:36 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, thanks for giving such a detailed response. could you say more about a couple of the things you mentioned? I've been doing a lot of thinking re what I want in terms of braille. One thought that has occurred to me is that I can translate a txt file into brf format on my BSP, so perhaps having the ability to translate it on the Mac is less important. I still have a PC with Duxbury on it, for those rare occasions when I actually need to print out a hard copy in braille. with this in mind, does your assessment of the braille support change at all? Second, what do you mean by terrible keystrokes? Could you give a couple of examples? thanks again, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Abisee?
Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is really the only area where I have to say that the Mac is truly lacking. I'm also thinking about giving ABBYY Fine Reader a shot, but it sounds like it's awfully fiddly. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ABBYY Fine Reader question
Hi all, One of the scanners I'm looking at purchasing comes with ABBYY Fine Reader. I am assuming it comes with the full version. Does anyone know the differences between the full and the express versions, and whether the full version is as accessible as the express version is? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ABBYY Fine Reader question
Hello, Unless something has changed in the last few days or so, only the express version will run on OS X. Dan On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, One of the scanners I'm looking at purchasing comes with ABBYY Fine Reader. I am assuming it comes with the full version. Does anyone know the differences between the full and the express versions, and whether the full version is as accessible as the express version is? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Live coverage of the WWDC keynote
Thanks. Chris. On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote: -Original Message- From: Gail the U. S. Male [mailto:gailcrowe1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:40 AM To: 'aiph...@yahoogroups.com'; 'viph...@googlegroups.com'; 'macvisionar...@google.com'; 'mac4thebl...@freelists.org' Subject: Live coverage of the WWDC keynote Hi Listers, I'm cross posting this to all the apple related lists I'm on, so, I apologize for the cross posts. I just googled to find out where live coverage of the keynote will be found. I came up with http://www.macrumors.com the site says they'll be covering the keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific time. For those who have trouble converting to their own time zone this is 11:00 Mountain time, 12:00 Central, 1:00 eastern, 2:00 atlantic, for our friends in Canada. I don't know what the Universal time would be. Sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ABBYY Fine Reader question
Hi, Just called ABBYY, nothing's changed. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Dan wrote: Hello, Unless something has changed in the last few days or so, only the express version will run on OS X. Dan On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, One of the scanners I'm looking at purchasing comes with ABBYY Fine Reader. I am assuming it comes with the full version. Does anyone know the differences between the full and the express versions, and whether the full version is as accessible as the express version is? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two questions about macbook trackpad
Hello Chris: Regardless of which Mac system you're working on, the trackpad anomalies can occur. Most of the time, I use the keyboard, and keep the track pad commander turned off. Then if I need it, I employ it and turn it back off before doing any major writing again. I've never, on the other hand done accidental mouse-clicks. HTH Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, lets get the essentials outta the way first. We're dealing with a white parlicarbon stocked mid 2010 macbook running 10.6.7 Snowleopard, 2gb ram, 13 inch display, 250GB hard disk, etc. It's totally stocked, no customizations. Absolutely none. OK, so now that you know what system precisely we're working with here, on to my two questions: 1. Have you all noticed that when trackpad commander is on, it's a lot easier than you'd think when typing for your wrists to accidentally bump the trackpad, causing a flick or some sort of unwanted jesture on the thing, making your focus go haywire? 2. We've been on list discussing piano pub and one person just wrote and said about routing the mouse pointer if it doesn't already follow, then literally speaking with trackpad commander off, literally clicking the actual trackpad. This leads me to a question. If you do this, not just in that context with that application, but I mean more in complete general regardless what app you're in, how do you keep from your finger moving as you drop it on the pad ever so so slightly, causing you to get just enough offset where if you click nothing'll happen? How do you prevent that aside the obvious of practice? Are their any sort of ish good techniques for dropping your finger that can help a bit with that? Thanks. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ABBYY Fine Reader question
Hello Donna and List, Hey Donna, thanks a bunch for checking out the version info, much appreciated. Dan On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi, Just called ABBYY, nothing's changed. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Dan wrote: Hello, Unless something has changed in the last few days or so, only the express version will run on OS X. Dan On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, One of the scanners I'm looking at purchasing comes with ABBYY Fine Reader. I am assuming it comes with the full version. Does anyone know the differences between the full and the express versions, and whether the full version is as accessible as the express version is? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Erik: Well, I couldn't resist a bit of folly. Just tell them the controls are within a pinky-promise! A-Q-Z all in the pinky. With the shift to clinch the promise. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:01 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, It sounds like you could get by without braille support since you don't need it to drive the application as some of my clients would. As soon as you save your scanned document as a text file your access is complete for your purposes. I'm happy enough with this arrangement myself but for some of my clients it's no option. Keysrokes, OK, to start reading press the letter E. To speed up the voice on the fly press shift Q. To slow down the speech on the fly press shift Z. I just can't find a good cognitive way to teach this to my clients. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 10:36 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Erik, thanks for giving such a detailed response. could you say more about a couple of the things you mentioned? I've been doing a lot of thinking re what I want in terms of braille. One thought that has occurred to me is that I can translate a txt file into brf format on my BSP, so perhaps having the ability to translate it on the Mac is less important. I still have a PC with Duxbury on it, for those rare occasions when I actually need to print out a hard copy in braille. with this in mind, does your assessment of the braille support change at all? Second, what do you mean by terrible keystrokes? Could you give a couple of examples? thanks again, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Abisee?
Hi Donna: I don't have Abbyy, and messed up my rial period of it. But, people have had good luck pairing it with iPhoto or vuescan. Vuescan works with more scanners, but I never got really comfortable with it's setup. I'll be interested to see what works well for you. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is really the only area where I have to say that the Mac is truly lacking. I'm also thinking about giving ABBYY Fine Reader a shot, but it sounds like it's awfully fiddly. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address
Is anyone able to listen to this? I can't get it to play either on my Mac or my PC. Donna Begin forwarded message: From: Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net Date: June 6, 2011 12:33:39 PM EDT To: nore...@maccessibility.net Subject: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address At 10:00 AM PDT, Apple wil be holding its World Wide Developers Conference Keynote address. Hosted by Steve Jobs, Apple will be pulling the wraps off of iOS 5, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, and its new iCloud service. You can listen to the Mac-cessibility Round Table Knights as the news unfolds at this link. [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/06/06/mac-cessibility-live-coverage-of-wwdc-keynote-address/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
[Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address
Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address At 10:00 AM PDT, Apple wil be holding its World Wide Developers Conference Keynote address. Hosted by Steve Jobs, Apple will be pulling the wraps off of iOS 5, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, and its new iCloud service. You can listen to the Mac-cessibility Round Table Knights as the news unfolds at this link. [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/06/06/mac-cessibility-live-coverage-of-wwdc-keynote-address/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address
Hi Donna: I didn't get there in time. But if you go to Mac Rumors, there's some great coverage of what's being shown. Someone's an awesome notetaker.:) Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Is anyone able to listen to this? I can't get it to play either on my Mac or my PC. Donna Begin forwarded message: From: Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net Date: June 6, 2011 12:33:39 PM EDT To: nore...@maccessibility.net Subject: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address At 10:00 AM PDT, Apple wil be holding its World Wide Developers Conference Keynote address. Hosted by Steve Jobs, Apple will be pulling the wraps off of iOS 5, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, and its new iCloud service. You can listen to the Mac-cessibility Round Table Knights as the news unfolds at this link. [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/06/06/mac-cessibility-live-coverage-of-wwdc-keynote-address/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address
Thanks, Carolyn! Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:30 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Donna: I didn't get there in time. But if you go to Mac Rumors, there's some great coverage of what's being shown. Someone's an awesome notetaker.:) Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Is anyone able to listen to this? I can't get it to play either on my Mac or my PC. Donna Begin forwarded message: From: Maccessibility nore...@maccessibility.net Date: June 6, 2011 12:33:39 PM EDT To: nore...@maccessibility.net Subject: [Mac-cessibility News] Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Mac-cessibility Live Coverage of WWDC Keynote Address At 10:00 AM PDT, Apple wil be holding its World Wide Developers Conference Keynote address. Hosted by Steve Jobs, Apple will be pulling the wraps off of iOS 5, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, and its new iCloud service. You can listen to the Mac-cessibility Round Table Knights as the news unfolds at this link. [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/06/06/mac-cessibility-live-coverage-of-wwdc-keynote-address/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi Carolyn, I'll keep you posted. Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence. I can't decide whether to shell out the $$ for EyePal, or deal with the headaches of ABBYY. I'd like ABBYY a lot better if I didn't need one app to scan and another to recognize. My other alternative is to just upgrade my copy of Kurzweil on my PC. Not crazy about that option either, but it is probably the easiest and most reliable of the three options. Take care, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:01 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Donna: I don't have Abbyy, and messed up my rial period of it. But, people have had good luck pairing it with iPhoto or vuescan. Vuescan works with more scanners, but I never got really comfortable with it's setup. I'll be interested to see what works well for you. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is really the only area where I have to say that the Mac is truly lacking. I'm also thinking about giving ABBYY Fine Reader a shot, but it sounds like it's awfully fiddly. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message
Mail Time Machine Helper app?
Hi, all, Is the Mail helper in Time Machine accessible to VO? I only find the options for choosing the date very briefly when I close the helper app. Is there any way to access this? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sending WWDC 2011 for those who didn't followed it on MacRumors
Hi. The subject says it all. I hope it's okay to paste it here. Only one comment: I'm amazed! What an epic WWDC! Live Coverage - Worldwide Developers Conference 2011 This page will update automatically, no need to reload. The keynote is due to start in 2 minutes. The keynote is due to start shortly, updates will be posted as they become available. Live coverage of the WWDC 2011 Keynote happening here. Seated at the keynote, tons of people are still filing in. Interesting observation: People nearby are talking about Apple just turning off the WWDC WiFi. Projector screens showing Apple logos. Nothing exciting happening yet. Presentation will being shortly. Asking for devices to be in silent mode. People waving for cameras, being shown on the projectors. Maybe not! Little Richard playing. Crowd seems very lively. Projectors showing cameras still slowly panning through the audience. Very packed, sitting super snug in these rows of chairs. It seems like they've put more rows in here since last year? Crowd cheering. Steve is taking the stage. Standing ovation. Thanking everyone for coming. Someone shouts, I love you! Steve sounds... exasperated. Weirdly quiet and not as energetic. Going over WWDC stats now, talking about how fast it sold out. 5,200 people here, tons of Apple folks floating around. Today we're going to talk about software. Crowd barely cheers for Phil, seems everyone taken off guard by Steve. The mac is doing incredibly well, our customer base continues to grow. 54m active Mac users and growing. 28% Mac growth, -1% PC growth. Mac has outgrown the industry every for the past 5 years. Citing MacBook Air as example of great Mac. 3/4 of Macs shipped today are laptops. Great not because of hardware, but because of software. OS X launched 10 years ago, built on solid unix foundation. Showing screenshots of OS X when it launched 10 years ago, crowd cheering. Showing screens of how it is now, evolved. Where do we take it next? 250 new features in Lion! Only 10 features being shown today of this fat Lion. Multi-Touch Gestures Discussing how they've learned from iOS, and applying that to everything in Lion. Showing gestures, remarkably similar to iOS. Swipe, pinch, etc. Scrollbars disappear, much like iOS. 2. Full Screen Applications Really important for notebooks. Lion has a standard method for full screen apps. Swipe gesture allows you to get back to your desktop. More than one full screen app running at a time, a swipe gets you between them. Seems cool. Showing various Apple apps running full screen, look basically how you would expect. 3. Mission Control The best feature of Lion. Demoing all these new features. Sarai UI looks very clean with no scroll bars. Everyhing behaves like iOS. Gestures now allow you to swipe through all the Safari history, looks very useful. Full screen apps can be switched very quickly with gestures. Photo Booth can track your face now! Targeted facial enhancements. Can actively make your eyes huge, for instance. This seems like a weird thing to spend time on at WWDC. Now showing how easy it is to get back and forth between windows using the mission control three finger gesture. Going through all these window control gestures. Spaces can be created and managed through Mission Control, easy dragging and dropping. Seems very flexible. Can easily delete spaces, which sends all the windows in that space back to your main desktop. Now going over the Mac App Store. As an aside, all the icons for all of these things have had the same brushed aluminum look as the iCloud logo. In the last 6 months, the Mac App Store has become the #1 software channel to get Mac applications. Going over developers who have brought apps to the Mac App Store and how well they've been doing, some developers doubling (or more) their revenue. Mentioning other success stories. Mac App Store is built into Lion. In-app purchases will be available in Lion Mac App Store. Push notifications as well as Sandboxing for testing. Showing LaunchPad, which is initiated using a gesture to show an iOS-like display of icons you can page through. Everything shown so far looks like iOS running on a Mac. Can also make folders using these icons. Next feature: Resume, instantly resume where you were in an application after you quit it. Even works system wide, when you reboot all of your windows and apps return how they were. Crowd claps for reboot resume. Lion auto saves basically everything. Which allows for reverting to all sorts of things. Showing reverting a document. Also allows for basic versioning. Only stores the difference between revisions, making it space efficient. Version control of documents look just like Time Machine. Demonstrating all this now. LaunchPad first, showing the instant view of all the apps installed on this Mac. Seems like they're spending a LOT of time going over the features THEN demonstrating them again. This isn't flowing like a normal Apple keynote. Showing now how icons can
Re: switching stations in PianoPub
As far as I know, the pandora site is not accessible. I created my account using the iPod app. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jenny Wood kc5...@gmail.com wrote: Good day all! Upon reading this thread, I have downloaded PianoPub myself. I do not currently have an account, therefore I visited http://www.pandora.com to register. However, I have been unable to locate a register link or button as suggested in the FAQ. Am I just missing something, or is voiceover not reading it properly? Thank you for any help you can offer. :-) -- Jenny Wood Phone:(972) 989-3894 Email:kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype:kc5gni On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: I have been able to click with the trackpad. Make sure the trackpad commander is turned off and that the mouse cursor follows the VO cursor. Also, be sure to give it a double click. -Greg On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Rose Morales wrote: Hi Brianna, Your third choice was the correct one. You route your mouse cursor to your Vo cursor with vo-command-f5. Then you physically click with the mouse. Like you, I have had instances where this command does not work, and this has not only occured in Pianopub. My suggestion to you would be to hide others with command-option h and then try the command. If that doesn't work, trying hitting zoom and then hiding others. Hth, Rose On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brianna Snyder wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how to switch between stations in PianoPub. I have tried focusing on the name of the station I want in the stations table with the VoiceOver cursor, and then physically clicking the mouse, and I've tried the mouse click keystroke, VO-shift-space. Also, I've tried to route the mouse cursor to the station I want, with Vo-command-F5, and I've done the physical mouse click, as well as the mouse click keystroke. Needless to say, nothing happens. If anyone has suggestions, they would be much appreciated. Aside from this little annoyance, I'm loving PianoPub. Thanks, Brianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Aghch! from the looks of it they didn't fix braille input. That is appalling if true. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
screen sharing?
Hi, anybody know if we're going to have access to screen sharing? That's a cool feature. So is the file merging. That's been a pain in the neck for too long. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
regarding Apple's announcement
Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
July, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 5:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
having trouble with ebay... as usual
Hi guys, I just went to look at my ebay and safari is telling me it can't load the page because of too many redirects. So, I hit the customer support link to see if I could find a contact form or troubleshooting page and guess what? the support page won't load because of too many redirects. Anyone else seeing this? Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: RSS on the mac with VO?
Can you explain how this works? I'm new to this and would like to know more about this. How do you find feeds, sign up for them, etc? Thanks, especially since I am way behind! Caitlyn Caitlyn Furness laven...@bell.net On May 15, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello Eric, I use the RSS feed part of Apple Mail, it seems to work pretty well. ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
yahoo web site and buttons question
Hi, I was on the yahoo groups web site today attempting to add my gmail address to it so I can use that for my yahoo groups. There was this button which was labeled as save/cancel and vo said on click or something like that. I tried to click on it, etc, but nothing seemed to happen and I never could get my gmail addy entered into the dumb site. Any ideas, or should I just fire up the virtual machine and attack it that way instead with nvda? Should I bring the mouse to it, or what? Totally mystified, Caitlyn ps-thanks, as I've never seen this until now! Caitlyn Furness laven...@bell.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi Eric, I'd email accessibil...@apple.com about this, but I personally don't know why you get the impression they didn't fix Braille input. They might have done so an not noted it on that page, which seemed primarily devoted to new features rather than bug fixes. More over, the iOS Braille display code includes proper Grade II braille support, so I have faith the Lion code will as well. Nevertheless, email Accessibility about it if you're concerned. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:32 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Aghch! from the looks of it they didn't fix braille input. That is appalling if true. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Hi Eric, I'm not sure you'll be able to buy a CD, if I understood the announcement correctly, Lion is available via the app store only. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility we've all come to expect. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
There are some good new features. What concerns me though is that it will only be available through the app store, there seems to be no way to get an install DVD. I know it creates a recovery partition on your drive and you can use that to reinstall, but what happens if your hard drive crashes and you replace it? You can certainly restore from an external drive, I don't know, I just prefer to have my operating system available for reinstall using DVD as well, but it doesn't look like Apple will even be selling that. On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Wow, if I'm missing something, the new reinstall process will remind one a lot of Microsoft, install the Snow Leopard disk, go get gigs of updates to bring the system up to the version that has the app store, then go install Lion. I wonder what new Mac's will come with, SL and a voucher for Lion in the app store? - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement Hi Eric, I'm not sure you'll be able to buy a CD, if I understood the announcement correctly, Lion is available via the app store only. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Hi Ray, IN fairness, i's probably easy for them to add another keyboard shortcut to the system to let you boot off the restore partition. I can see the point about DVDs being a good idea, and perhaps they'll make one available after all, it might be a good insurance policy in case the worst does happen. We'll see come July. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility we've all come to expect. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
So, does this restore partition thing mean my boot camp will be messed up? I don't know how well Lion can resize NTFS partitions, maybe it would put the restore partition in the middle, but I'm not sure they just renumber like that. It'd be nice if the boot camp weren't needed, but certain games and other software has no alternative. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility we've all come to expect. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi there! It's been suggested that we might be able to make our own back up dvd! We will see! Colin On 7 Jun 2011, at 01:18, Mike Arrigo wrote: There are some good new features. What concerns me though is that it will only be available through the app store, there seems to be no way to get an install DVD. I know it creates a recovery partition on your drive and you can use that to reinstall, but what happens if your hard drive crashes and you replace it? You can certainly restore from an external drive, I don't know, I just prefer to have my operating system available for reinstall using DVD as well, but it doesn't look like Apple will even be selling that. On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Are they even going to sell the disk? There was no mention of it, if so, that's what I will do as well. On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Hi there! It's been suggested that we might be able to make our own backup dvd from the installation! Colin On 7 Jun 2011, at 01:24, Brent Harding wrote: So, does this restore partition thing mean my boot camp will be messed up? I don't know how well Lion can resize NTFS partitions, maybe it would put the restore partition in the middle, but I'm not sure they just renumber like that. It'd be nice if the boot camp weren't needed, but certain games and other software has no alternative. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a restore partition is going to come up to that standard of accessibility we've all come to expect. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: Ringtones
you can creat free ringtones or upload clips and make ringtones here. You can also find free ringtones to download . http://www.myxer.com/ Laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Openning a file before my job interview on Monday
Guys, I do not own Microsoft Office for Windows, and as you all know, it's not accessible on the Mac. I have a job interview this Monday, however one of the requirements prior to the interview is to review a power point presentation. I definitely have the file on my drive, and admittedly, haven't tried openning it, but it's just a standard .ppt file. I've been told however that it's not exactly a simple little slide show, it has auto slide transitioning, background audio naration, basically the whole 9 yards. They did say as a very last resort, they could have someone go through the presentation with me in person before or during my interview, but it's way more prefered that I view it ahead of time. I do have the latest version of IWorks, but to the best of my understanding nothing'll open a power point file that is including in that bundle of apps. So, I have been told Preview will open it within some reason. So, what's the best thing you all recommend, and can you all give me a little hand, how to navigate through this? Yes the file is copy written, but it's freely available for absolutely anyone, whehter applying or not to freely at will download and view. So I'd be happy off list thus fore, to send this file to anyone who would like it to see if they can get it to work to then better assist me with navigating it. But! generally speaking, what's the best way to go about doing this? Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
quite so. I guess, maybe, that the folks at the Apple accessibility
department, (are whom ever receives our messages when we write apple about
accessibility stuff), {Perhaps they're on this list?}, could still have time to
make Steve Jobs and company aware of this question so we can get an answer
before one of us has a crash and does need to do an OS reinstall. To speak
frankly, I'd hate to see the standard of accessibility we all know and love
deteriorate over this one issue.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Ray,
IN fairness, i's probably easy for them to add another keyboard shortcut to
the system to let you boot off the restore partition. I can see the point
about DVDs being a good idea, and perhaps they'll make one available after
all, it might be a good insurance policy in case the worst does happen.
We'll see come July.
Best,
Zack.
On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you
have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no
sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and
press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a
restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility we've
all come to expect.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me
because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy
the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple
store.
Have fun,
Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then
aint we?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
HI Ray:
Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or
thereabout.
Carolyn
On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Any idea when Lion is coming out?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi all,
One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages
by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing
messages by thread?
Thanks.
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
I am supposing that when Lion is installed, it will look at all your settings and install itself honoring your accessibility settings so you don't have to go and guess how to start it again. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Brent Harding wrote: So, does this restore partition thing mean my boot camp will be messed up? I don't know how well Lion can resize NTFS partitions, maybe it would put the restore partition in the middle, but I'm not sure they just renumber like that. It'd be nice if the boot camp weren't needed, but certain games and other software has no alternative. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail tounderstand how a restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility we've all come to expect. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
The strong implication was that no disk would be sold. Seems to me that perhaps the answer to performing an OS reinstall accessibily, should it be necessary, would be for a way to be provided so that the end user would be able to burn an emergency backup bootable copy for the afore mentioned purpose. Just occured to me. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Are they even going to sell the disk? There was no mention of it, if so, that's what I will do as well. On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
I would think the recovery mode would be accessible. However you boot in to that, once it's booted, pressing command f5 as usual should do the trick, it would be a major step backwards if that doesn't work. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: The strong implication was that no disk would be sold. Seems to me that perhaps the answer to performing an OS reinstall accessibily, should it be necessary, would be for a way to be provided so that the end user would be able to burn an emergency backup bootable copy for the afore mentioned purpose. Just occured to me. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Are they even going to sell the disk? There was no mention of it, if so, that's what I will do as well. On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: All the new features in Lion
Its not even worthing e-mailing them in my opinion. Apple won't talk about anything that wasn't already mentioned today. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Eric, I'd email accessibil...@apple.com about this, but I personally don't know why you get the impression they didn't fix Braille input. They might have done so an not noted it on that page, which seemed primarily devoted to new features rather than bug fixes. More over, the iOS Braille display code includes proper Grade II braille support, so I have faith the Lion code will as well. Nevertheless, email Accessibility about it if you're concerned. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:32 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Aghch! from the looks of it they didn't fix braille input. That is appalling if true. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Not really, just use your old snow leopard disc and re download it. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Whats the difference between an dvd and an external drive? They serve the same function. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There are some good new features. What concerns me though is that it will only be available through the app store, there seems to be no way to get an install DVD. I know it creates a recovery partition on your drive and you can use that to reinstall, but what happens if your hard drive crashes and you replace it? You can certainly restore from an external drive, I don't know, I just prefer to have my operating system available for reinstall using DVD as well, but it doesn't look like Apple will even be selling that. On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Well, You can always just use a time machine back right? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Brent Harding wrote: Wow, if I'm missing something, the new reinstall process will remind one a lot of Microsoft, install the Snow Leopard disk, go get gigs of updates to bring the system up to the version that has the app store, then go install Lion. I wonder what new Mac's will come with, SL and a voucher for Lion in the app store? - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement Hi Eric, I'm not sure you'll be able to buy a CD, if I understood the announcement correctly, Lion is available via the app store only. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
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OK, it's official, I gotta turn my head away or I'm gonna be ruinning my keyboard from the fact of me salivating. This, is awesome! Chris. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: Sending WWDC 2011 for those who didn't followed it on MacRumors Hi. The subject says it all. I hope it's okay to paste it here. Only one comment: I'm amazed! What an epic WWDC! Live Coverage - Worldwide Developers Conference 2011 This page will update automatically, no need to reload. The keynote is due to start in 2 minutes. The keynote is due to start shortly, updates will be posted as they become available. Live coverage of the WWDC 2011 Keynote happening here. Seated at the keynote, tons of people are still filing in. Interesting observation: People nearby are talking about Apple just turning off the WWDC WiFi. Projector screens showing Apple logos. Nothing exciting happening yet. Presentation will being shortly. Asking for devices to be in silent mode. People waving for cameras, being shown on the projectors. Maybe not! Little Richard playing. Crowd seems very lively. Projectors showing cameras still slowly panning through the audience. Very packed, sitting super snug in these rows of chairs. It seems like they've put more rows in here since last year? Crowd cheering. Steve is taking the stage. Standing ovation. Thanking everyone for coming. Someone shouts, I love you! Steve sounds... exasperated. Weirdly quiet and not as energetic. Going over WWDC stats now, talking about how fast it sold out. 5,200 people here, tons of Apple folks floating around. Today we're going to talk about software. Crowd barely cheers for Phil, seems everyone taken off guard by Steve. The mac is doing incredibly well, our customer base continues to grow. 54m active Mac users and growing. 28% Mac growth, -1% PC growth. Mac has outgrown the industry every for the past 5 years. Citing MacBook Air as example of great Mac. 3/4 of Macs shipped today are laptops. Great not because of hardware, but because of software. OS X launched 10 years ago, built on solid unix foundation. Showing screenshots of OS X when it launched 10 years ago, crowd cheering. Showing screens of how it is now, evolved. Where do we take it next? 250 new features in Lion! Only 10 features being shown today of this fat Lion. Multi-Touch Gestures Discussing how they've learned from iOS, and applying that to everything in Lion. Showing gestures, remarkably similar to iOS. Swipe, pinch, etc. Scrollbars disappear, much like iOS. 2. Full Screen Applications Really important for notebooks. Lion has a standard method for full screen apps. Swipe gesture allows you to get back to your desktop. More than one full screen app running at a time, a swipe gets you between them. Seems cool. Showing various Apple apps running full screen, look basically how you would expect. 3. Mission Control The best feature of Lion. Demoing all these new features. Sarai UI looks very clean with no scroll bars. Everyhing behaves like iOS. Gestures now allow you to swipe through all the Safari history, looks very useful. Full screen apps can be switched very quickly with gestures. Photo Booth can track your face now! Targeted facial enhancements. Can actively make your eyes huge, for instance. This seems like a weird thing to spend time on at WWDC. Now showing how easy it is to get back and forth between windows using the mission control three finger gesture. Going through all these window control gestures. Spaces can be created and managed through Mission Control, easy dragging and dropping. Seems very flexible. Can easily delete spaces, which sends all the windows in that space back to your main desktop. Now going over the Mac App Store. As an aside, all the icons for all of these things have had the same brushed aluminum look as the iCloud logo. In the last 6 months, the Mac App Store has become the #1 software channel to get Mac applications. Going over developers who have brought apps to the Mac App Store and how well they've been doing, some developers doubling (or more) their revenue. Mentioning other success stories. Mac App Store is built into Lion. In-app purchases will be available in Lion Mac App Store. Push notifications as well as Sandboxing for testing. Showing LaunchPad, which is initiated using a gesture to show an iOS-like display of icons you can page through. Everything shown so far looks like iOS running on a Mac. Can also make folders using these icons. Next feature: Resume, instantly resume where you were in an application after you quit it. Even works system wide, when you reboot all of your windows and apps return how they were. Crowd claps for reboot resume. Lion auto saves basically everything. Which allows for reverting to all sorts of things. Showing reverting a document. Also allows for basic versioning. Only stores the difference
Re: All the new features in Lion
We know july, but do we specifically know yet the exact date it'll be available for non developers as myself? Chris. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: All the new features in Lion Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Well, yeah, but do we know specifically when in July? Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement July, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 5:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iBooks, iCloud and the Mac
Am I understanding correctly that we'll soon be able to read iBooks on the Mac? If iCloud is going to be synching all devices, then a book I purchase on my iPod Touch would be available on my Mac, too, no? I'm hoping so. Thanks. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBooks, iCloud and the Mac
No, They said nothing about iBooks coming to the Mac. He said your iBooks will be synced across your IOS devices. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: Am I understanding correctly that we'll soon be able to read iBooks on the Mac? If iCloud is going to be synching all devices, then a book I purchase on my iPod Touch would be available on my Mac, too, no? I'm hoping so. Thanks. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
I don't believe so. There was no exact date mentioned in the keynote. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Well, yeah, but do we know specifically when in July? Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement July, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 5:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Is there anything that you liked imparticular? On IOS, I was pretty interested in the wifi syncing with iTunes, the new notifications system, and iMessage. I wonder how they will be with voiceover. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: We know july, but do we specifically know yet the exact date it'll be available for non developers as myself? Chris. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: All the new features in Lion Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBooks, iCloud and the Mac
He did say that a mac or pc would be treated as a device so I can see why you might think so, but he didn't mention that *exact* feature. Hopefully you will be able to do this though. On 07/06/2011, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: No, They said nothing about iBooks coming to the Mac. He said your iBooks will be synced across your IOS devices. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: Am I understanding correctly that we'll soon be able to read iBooks on the Mac? If iCloud is going to be synching all devices, then a book I purchase on my iPod Touch would be available on my Mac, too, no? I'm hoping so. Thanks. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
Ray, Accessibility is absolutely not going to be effected. Booting off of a
recovery partition will be no different than booting off of the install Dvd.
Windows laptops have come with recovery partitions for years, and they usually
have an applet that will make a set of backup DVD's for you in case of hard
drive failure.
My problems with this go back to viruses and security which go back to numerous
bad experiences with windows recovery partitions. Also burned DVD's which can
be of dubious quality and have a very definite shelflife at the best of times.
I'll take a nice pressed DVD if it's all the same.
I don't really expect to own another laptop ever after this one, but if some
unforseen circumstance puts yet another macbook in my hands a la OS Lion, I
expect it may come preconfigured with a recovery partition. In that case I'll
probably delete the recovery patition and keep a good time machine backup.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
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On 2011-06-06, at 8:45 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
quite so. I guess, maybe, that the folks at the Apple accessibility
department, (are whom ever receives our messages when we write apple about
accessibility stuff), {Perhaps they're on this list?}, could still have time
to make Steve Jobs and company aware of this question so we can get an answer
before one of us has a crash and does need to do an OS reinstall. To speak
frankly, I'd hate to see the standard of accessibility we all know and love
deteriorate over this one issue.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
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On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Ray,
IN fairness, i's probably easy for them to add another keyboard shortcut to
the system to let you boot off the restore partition. I can see the point
about DVDs being a good idea, and perhaps they'll make one available after
all, it might be a good insurance policy in case the worst does happen.
We'll see come July.
Best,
Zack.
On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Frankly, Eric, I'm inclined to agree with you. After all, let's say you
have a fairly major OS crash and you need to do an OS reinstall and have no
sighted assistance. Now, as we all know, one can just put the DVD in and
press C right after pressing the power switch. I fail to understand how a
restore partition is going to come up to that standard of acessibility
we've all come to expect.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me
because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy
the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple
store.
Have fun,
Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then
aint we?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
HI Ray:
Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or
thereabout.
Carolyn
On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Any idea when Lion is coming out?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
Hi all,
One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages
by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing
messages by thread?
Thanks.
Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and
performer
Phone: 914-664-5014
email: chri...@bestweb.net
web site: www.wright-media.com
facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided
above
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Re: Abisee?
Yes, I have used it, but since I now have DocuScan Plus I think I would opt for DocuScan Plus and if you want the digital camera you could get the Hover Cam. If you get both the DocuScan Plus and the HoverCam you will still pay a lot less than Eye-Pal and be able to do much much more than you can with Eye-Pal for a higher price. I also discovered that the dpi on the Eye-Pal camera is only 219, which is very low compaired to 300 or higher dpi with a flatbed scanner. I believe the dpi would be at least 300 with the HoverCam. Of course, at this time, all the recognition in DocuScan Plus for Mac is done on the Seratek server. So, you do have to have an internet connection to make it work. Of course you could always use your iPhone hotspot for that. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Abisee? Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi David, My current scanner is a Fujitsu FI4220C. It scans approx 1 page every 5-7 seconds. I tend to scan books, rather than single page documents. What's the speed like with DocuScan? Also, what scanner are you using? TIA, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:41 PM, David Tanner wrote: Yes, I have used it, but since I now have DocuScan Plus I think I would opt for DocuScan Plus and if you want the digital camera you could get the Hover Cam. If you get both the DocuScan Plus and the HoverCam you will still pay a lot less than Eye-Pal and be able to do much much more than you can with Eye-Pal for a higher price. I also discovered that the dpi on the Eye-Pal camera is only 219, which is very low compaired to 300 or higher dpi with a flatbed scanner. I believe the dpi would be at least 300 with the HoverCam. Of course, at this time, all the recognition in DocuScan Plus for Mac is done on the Seratek server. So, you do have to have an internet connection to make it work. Of course you could always use your iPhone hotspot for that. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Abisee? Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Openning a file before my job interview on Monday
Hi Chris, I do believe Keynote will open .ppt files. Whether its support is good enough to handle all the advanced features your slideshow apparently has I don't know. This is yet another example of the assumption most businesses seem to still have that Microsoft software in one form or another is close at hand. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I do not own Microsoft Office for Windows, and as you all know, it's not accessible on the Mac. I have a job interview this Monday, however one of the requirements prior to the interview is to review a power point presentation. I definitely have the file on my drive, and admittedly, haven't tried openning it, but it's just a standard .ppt file. I've been told however that it's not exactly a simple little slide show, it has auto slide transitioning, background audio naration, basically the whole 9 yards. They did say as a very last resort, they could have someone go through the presentation with me in person before or during my interview, but it's way more prefered that I view it ahead of time. I do have the latest version of IWorks, but to the best of my understanding nothing'll open a power point file that is including in that bundle of apps. So, I have been told Preview will open it within some reason. So, what's the best thing you all recommend, and can you all give me a little hand, how to navigate through this? Yes the file is copy written, but it's freely available for absolutely anyone, whehter applying or not to freely at will download and view. So I'd be happy off list thus fore, to send this file to anyone who would like it to see if they can get it to work to then better assist me with navigating it. But! generally speaking, what's the best way to go about doing this? Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Donna, If you can deal with recognition over the internet I really would choose DocuScan Plus over your other choices. Your options are many more with DocuScan Plus, and if you want to use Braille it is definately there with VoiceOver. And, it works really well with VoiceOver. I have it and Eye-Pal both on my MacBook Pro, and I always opt for DocuScan Plus because you really have a lot more flexability with it. And, once the document is recognized you can go to Document Management and save the document on your computer and delete it from the cloud. You can also save Braille files and Daisy files from your scanned documents with DocuScan Plus. I turned the PDF of the Olympus DM4 digital recorder into a Daisy book with DocuScan Plus and it did a really nice job. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Abisee? Hi Carolyn, I'll keep you posted. Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence. I can't decide whether to shell out the $$ for EyePal, or deal with the headaches of ABBYY. I'd like ABBYY a lot better if I didn't need one app to scan and another to recognize. My other alternative is to just upgrade my copy of Kurzweil on my PC. Not crazy about that option either, but it is probably the easiest and most reliable of the three options. Take care, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:01 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Donna: I don't have Abbyy, and messed up my rial period of it. But, people have had good luck pairing it with iPhoto or vuescan. Vuescan works with more scanners, but I never got really comfortable with it's setup. I'll be interested to see what works well for you. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is really the only area where I have to say that the Mac is truly lacking. I'm also thinking about giving ABBYY Fine Reader a shot, but it sounds like it's awfully fiddly. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote: Hello Donna, I am a user of DocuScanPlus and I have also used EyePal for Mac with varying amounts of success. Unfortunately, I can't say that I enjoy using either solution since they both have tremendous drawbacks. Although DocuScanPlus has some nice features, it requires an internet connection to really be usable. EyePal for Mac isn't really a Mac application and doesn't behave like one. Although it does a good job of processing print text, the UI seemsreally clunky and inefficient since ABISee is using Wine to create a Windows like environment to run the application. Overall, I've found the EyePal application to be more of a memory hog and less stable than what I would expect from such a high priced solution. Just my thoughts On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Donna, as you are a braille user, Eyepal may not be the best option for you right now. Although you can work around it, the loss of braille has crippled the product considerably. When I wrote that it wasn't ready for primetime, I was using old hardware and software. I'm more than happy to recommend the current offering for what it is and as far as it goes. I have an Eyepal here and I like it much better than k1000 on a vm for pure convenience. It does see a page and recognize it extrordinarily well. It looks nice on a desktop. It's fantastic for scanning large amounts of material at once. Lac of direct braille support, terrible key assignments, abominable speech, and no voiceover integration are inconveniences I've decided are worth putting up with until a genuine mac software emerges which they assure me will happen at some point. Hopefully soon, since Docuscan has shown up as a possible better alternative considering the mac Integration. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 9:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi Ricardo, I agree, those items you listed definitely intrigue me. MOre over, I like the idea of iCloud in general. The way they describe it makes things seem so seamless and as if they'll just work. Remarkable stuff. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Is there anything that you liked imparticular? On IOS, I was pretty interested in the wifi syncing with iTunes, the new notifications system, and iMessage. I wonder how they will be with voiceover. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do fix some VoiceOver related issues as well. Personally, I've found Pages quite adequate for my word processing needs once I got used to its interface. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
Re: All the new features in Lion
I find myself having to look at tables quite a bit, and the work around involving numbers that Anne has talked about seems like a hassle. So I just keep using MS Word. Most people with whom I share documents still use that program. It and scanning are the two things I still need a pc for, and of course, the occasional production of hard copy braille from the MS Word documents. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
What, pray tell, has that to do with the curser position and movement? It must be remembered, (for the benefit of y'all who are or may perhaps still be new to the Mac world), that the Mac curser itself moves in a different way to the windows curser. See my earlier message for an analysis. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi, I think to do those gestures, you will need to turn trackpad commander off. They would surely conflict with the voiceover gestures. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Right now I am using a Canon Lide 200, and a almost 3 year old MacBook Pro. And, I am happy enough about the speed with those, but my employer will be buying me a new MacBook Pro come October with me supplying them with the specs that I want. If you have not heard a demo/review of DocuScan Plus I can post an announcement here, if you wish, as to when my review of it comes up on MainMenu. The review has already been submitted, but I'm not sure when Jamie plans on airing it. I would say probably before the end of June. I do the biggest part of the demo in Windows, but I do show off doing a few things using the Mac version too. I think it should be enough for you to have a fairly good idea how well it does on a 3 year old MacBook Pro whose processor is much slower than a newer Mac, and it sounds like your scanner is much faster than mine. I went for portability since I need to carry laptop and scanner to clients homes or jobsites from time-to-time. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Abisee? Hi David, My current scanner is a Fujitsu FI4220C. It scans approx 1 page every 5-7 seconds. I tend to scan books, rather than single page documents. What's the speed like with DocuScan? Also, what scanner are you using? TIA, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:41 PM, David Tanner wrote: Yes, I have used it, but since I now have DocuScan Plus I think I would opt for DocuScan Plus and if you want the digital camera you could get the Hover Cam. If you get both the DocuScan Plus and the HoverCam you will still pay a lot less than Eye-Pal and be able to do much much more than you can with Eye-Pal for a higher price. I also discovered that the dpi on the Eye-Pal camera is only 219, which is very low compaired to 300 or higher dpi with a flatbed scanner. I believe the dpi would be at least 300 with the HoverCam. Of course, at this time, all the recognition in DocuScan Plus for Mac is done on the Seratek server. So, you do have to have an internet connection to make it work. Of course you could always use your iPhone hotspot for that. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Abisee? Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
What are you talking about? the way voiceover treats the cursor by default is not a bug. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: All the new features in Lion
I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be much trouble to mention new VO features on the site. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Hi David, Thanks for all this. I wasn't taking DocuScan that seriously, but after reading your messages, I'll give it a closer look. My MacBook Pro is two years old, and the thing that's prompting all this is that I need a new scanner, because Fujitsu hasn't written Windows 7 drivers for my current scanner (long sigh, it still works great!) Please do post an announcement when you're demo is up, I'd love to give it a listen. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:45 PM, David Tanner wrote: Right now I am using a Canon Lide 200, and a almost 3 year old MacBook Pro. And, I am happy enough about the speed with those, but my employer will be buying me a new MacBook Pro come October with me supplying them with the specs that I want. If you have not heard a demo/review of DocuScan Plus I can post an announcement here, if you wish, as to when my review of it comes up on MainMenu. The review has already been submitted, but I'm not sure when Jamie plans on airing it. I would say probably before the end of June. I do the biggest part of the demo in Windows, but I do show off doing a few things using the Mac version too. I think it should be enough for you to have a fairly good idea how well it does on a 3 year old MacBook Pro whose processor is much slower than a newer Mac, and it sounds like your scanner is much faster than mine. I went for portability since I need to carry laptop and scanner to clients homes or jobsites from time-to-time. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Abisee? Hi David, My current scanner is a Fujitsu FI4220C. It scans approx 1 page every 5-7 seconds. I tend to scan books, rather than single page documents. What's the speed like with DocuScan? Also, what scanner are you using? TIA, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:41 PM, David Tanner wrote: Yes, I have used it, but since I now have DocuScan Plus I think I would opt for DocuScan Plus and if you want the digital camera you could get the Hover Cam. If you get both the DocuScan Plus and the HoverCam you will still pay a lot less than Eye-Pal and be able to do much much more than you can with Eye-Pal for a higher price. I also discovered that the dpi on the Eye-Pal camera is only 219, which is very low compaired to 300 or higher dpi with a flatbed scanner. I believe the dpi would be at least 300 with the HoverCam. Of course, at this time, all the recognition in DocuScan Plus for Mac is done on the Seratek server. So, you do have to have an internet connection to make it work. Of course you could always use your iPhone hotspot for that. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Abisee? Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: Insertion point
Ray, You do have a point there. I was meaning to comment upon the Lion issue and I let those messages get away from me. And yes, the Mac cursor does react differently. Sometimes I am not sure if I am at the end of the line or two cells from it. Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point What, pray tell, has that to do with the curser position and movement? It must be remembered, (for the benefit of y'all who are or may perhaps still be new to the Mac world), that the Mac curser itself moves in a different way to the windows curser. See my earlier message for an analysis. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word apple as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the apple example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word apple at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, space, followed by a, that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi, I have a mac mini, if I get lion on it, will I have to have a trackpad, or can I go without? Courtney On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do fix some VoiceOver related issues as well. Personally, I've found Pages quite adequate for my word processing needs once I got used to its interface. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] regarding Apple's announcement
I believe I heard it was only going to be available through the Mac App store, and one would have to burn their own backup cd. Either that, or given your Apple Id and password, iCloud could do the reinstall. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: They're giving you a restore partition which doesn't sit well with me because I'm an ssd user and space is at a premium. I'm just gonna go buy the CD. Even though it's a pain in the butt, I like going to the apple store. Have fun, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 7:35 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Cool; however, suppose you had to do an OS reinstall? Kind uh stuck then aint we? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:57 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: HI Ray: Think they said July. Via download from mac app store for 29.95 or thereabout. Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Any idea when Lion is coming out? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Christopher Wright wrote: Hi all, One of the new features in Lion is the ability to sort email messages by conversation. Would this replace Mark's procedure for viewing messages by thread? Thanks. Christopher Wright - music composer, arranger, audio producer and performer Phone: 914-664-5014 email: chri...@bestweb.net web site: www.wright-media.com facebook: sign into your account and use the email address provided above Linked In: write to me for an invitation -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
No, I'm pretty certain you can go on using your mac with just the keyboard. These multi gesture features they were talking about seemed to be more geared for the sighted user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a mac mini, if I get lion on it, will I have to have a trackpad, or can I go without? Courtney On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do fix some VoiceOver related issues as well. Personally, I've found Pages quite adequate for my word processing needs once I got used to its interface. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBooks, iCloud and the Mac
Howard: Don't know about reading on the mac. If the files ae in pub format, and even if they're PDF, at least currently, they can't be read. ICloud is just the storage device. They wold have to make some major changes in iTunes to be able to erad them on the mac. imho Carolyn On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: Am I understanding correctly that we'll soon be able to read iBooks on the Mac? If iCloud is going to be synching all devices, then a book I purchase on my iPod Touch would be available on my Mac, too, no? I'm hoping so. Thanks. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of fact. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be much trouble to mention new VO features on the site. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abisee?
Remember you can download DocuScan Plus from the Mac App store for free and sign up for a free 7 day test drive. Frankly, that is probably what I would do if I were you. That way you get the chance to try it on your machine, with your scanner, and decide for yourself after trying it whether it is for you or not. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Abisee? Hi David, Thanks for all this. I wasn't taking DocuScan that seriously, but after reading your messages, I'll give it a closer look. My MacBook Pro is two years old, and the thing that's prompting all this is that I need a new scanner, because Fujitsu hasn't written Windows 7 drivers for my current scanner (long sigh, it still works great!) Please do post an announcement when you're demo is up, I'd love to give it a listen. Cheers, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:45 PM, David Tanner wrote: Right now I am using a Canon Lide 200, and a almost 3 year old MacBook Pro. And, I am happy enough about the speed with those, but my employer will be buying me a new MacBook Pro come October with me supplying them with the specs that I want. If you have not heard a demo/review of DocuScan Plus I can post an announcement here, if you wish, as to when my review of it comes up on MainMenu. The review has already been submitted, but I'm not sure when Jamie plans on airing it. I would say probably before the end of June. I do the biggest part of the demo in Windows, but I do show off doing a few things using the Mac version too. I think it should be enough for you to have a fairly good idea how well it does on a 3 year old MacBook Pro whose processor is much slower than a newer Mac, and it sounds like your scanner is much faster than mine. I went for portability since I need to carry laptop and scanner to clients homes or jobsites from time-to-time. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Abisee? Hi David, My current scanner is a Fujitsu FI4220C. It scans approx 1 page every 5-7 seconds. I tend to scan books, rather than single page documents. What's the speed like with DocuScan? Also, what scanner are you using? TIA, Donna On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:41 PM, David Tanner wrote: Yes, I have used it, but since I now have DocuScan Plus I think I would opt for DocuScan Plus and if you want the digital camera you could get the Hover Cam. If you get both the DocuScan Plus and the HoverCam you will still pay a lot less than Eye-Pal and be able to do much much more than you can with Eye-Pal for a higher price. I also discovered that the dpi on the Eye-Pal camera is only 219, which is very low compaired to 300 or higher dpi with a flatbed scanner. I believe the dpi would be at least 300 with the HoverCam. Of course, at this time, all the recognition in DocuScan Plus for Mac is done on the Seratek server. So, you do have to have an internet connection to make it work. Of course you could always use your iPhone hotspot for that. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:42 AM Subject: Abisee? Hi all, I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do to upgrade my scanning setup. As I recall, when last discussed, the consensus seemed to be that Abisee wasn't quite ready for prime-time. Just wondering if anyone is using it, and if they are happy with the product? Thanks in advance for any info. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: All the new features in Lion
Actually, docuscan plus works on the mac quite well, assuming you have a scanner or camera that works with the mac On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I find myself having to look at tables quite a bit, and the work around involving numbers that Anne has talked about seems like a hassle. So I just keep using MS Word. Most people with whom I share documents still use that program. It and scanning are the two things I still need a pc for, and of course, the occasional production of hard copy braille from the MS Word documents. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
You don't need a track pad, you can continue to use the keyboard in the usual way. On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a mac mini, if I get lion on it, will I have to have a trackpad, or can I go without? Courtney On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do fix some VoiceOver related issues as well. Personally, I've found Pages quite adequate for my word processing needs once I got used to its interface. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice over. I still use Word and Windows for word processing. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
