Re: clean install?
Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! Keep in mind that the Mac OS X is a very large and complex operating software. As you can see in the App Store download, it is over 4.3 GB. In the history of software computing, nothing has worked 100 percent perfectly with no bugs. Bugs are bound to happen. Isolated incidents are inevitable. Having said that, I will share my experience. I am guilty as charged of my own statement. I also thought that a clean install will make my Mac run faster and more smoothly. I first installed Lion as an upgrade over Snow Leopard. I had problems. Most of the bugs are small, none are show-stoppers. So I decided to do a clean install. Yes, things improved, but not in such a way that convinced me the clean install was the solution. I come to believe now that Lion was just a buggy version. When Mountain Lion came out, I installed it as an upgrade over Lion. Boy was it a huge difference over Lion. My startup time is much faster, and in just a few days of using it, I've not had any problems. So essentially, Mountain Lion made a better Mac out of my machine. I think it's an individual situation. If upgrading is not doing it for you, perhaps a clean install will take care of it. But don't think of upgrades as different from a clean install. Remember, if you think clean installs are better, you must be a Windows user. Lol! Upgrade is just as good as a clean install. At the moment, I have no desire to do a clean install of Mountain Lion. On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Tim: You've ben doing this for a long time. You've also helped a lot of people on this list. So, believe me, I respect and trust your judgement. However, when I purchased Lion last year, I did do an upgrade installation. Believe me, I wanted to do that, also, a lot of knowledgeable people like yourself told me it was no problem. However, something went wrong in my case! voiceover didn't behave well at all, moving around on web pages by heading etc, just didn't work half the time. I was having all kinds of problems like that. So, I went back and did a clean install. After that, I was much much happier. So, when I got ml, I simply took the extra time and did the clean install and then used the migration wizard to retrieve all my data. I didn't really even want to do that, because, it retrieved all my settings and preferences, so, really, this isn't a complete fresh install. But, so far, it's working ok. there are a few annoying things, but, it has nothing to do with performance, just new things voiceover says that I think we could do without So, I guess it just boils down to whatever works for the individual person. On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just my opinion of course but I'll pipe in here with a further comment. I do hear a lot of folks on this list speaking of using Clean Installs. I'm guessing that they may be coming from a Windows background where clean installs seem to be needed more often due to corrupt files. For the most part though, in the MacOS, this is unnecessary unless you are experiencing very erratic behavior. 99 times out of 100 I've been able to fix the issue by repairing disk permissions or removing and reinstalling an offending app. People should do what they are most comfortable doing although I'm one who doesn't care spending a huge amount of time fiddling with things when I could be enjoying them instead. Have a good one all. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-27, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you for the most part, Tim. However, after having my Mac Mini for two years without doing a clean install, VO began muting itself spontaneously, and a sys diagnose file began appearing without warning in a finder window. I decided to use a clean install to clear these things up. Believe me, I do think the upgrades are much, much easier, and I will use them as long as my machine isn't acting up. Teresa On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In my opinion, the clean install would be totally unnecessary. I've done 100s or even 1000s of upgrade installs in my career and have only experienced one problem. The upgrade process is tested quite rigorously and, really, for the most part, is no different than a clean install and migration. As long as you have either a Time Machine backup or some other backup of your important data, I'd just go with the upgrade install. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-27, at 2:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm finally home, and plan to do the upgrade later today (here's hoping I don't run into the installation or semper busy problems reported). So,
Re: first possible bug in ML
Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is it possible the system is still booting up? Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box again. I would do a complete shut down, then startup. Hope that will help. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I hope that isn't the only long-term solution. Cheers, Donna On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you hit command+F5 to turn it on manually? If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn key. Chris. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM Subject: first possible bug in ML Hi all, Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML. I no longer have speech during the log-in process. To test this, shut down your Mac and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech while you are doing it. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: clean install?
On 28 Jul 2012, at 08:55, Shen wrote: Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! No way! I've never been a Windows user. I've been a Mac user for 16 years and I strongly recommend a clean install. Problems can be carried over from one OS to the next, so it's a good time to clean things up. Lion was the first OS that could be installed on top of the previous one, and I've seen so many people with problems from doing that. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Busy, busy everywhere
I tend to run into it primarily in Xcode, fact that I have a ate 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory notwithstanding. Thing is, if, as reported previously, the lag goes away when one removes VoiceOver from the equation and uses a working monitor, might the problem be with the way that VoiceOver is interacting with applications? On Jul 27, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get any busys at all, except every so often in iTunes when I go to the store. Then again, I am running a 2012 Macbook Air with 8GB of ram. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 4:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Busy, busy everywhere Same here. I don't think I've had any busys at all, and startup is a lot faster. I'm very, very glad I got Mountain Lion! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 5:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere Hi Alex I would actually say the opposite. There is less busy busy on my 2011 MacBook pro with 4 gb ram than in Lion. Start up is definitely faster and I think VO is a bit snappier. Lisette On 28/07/2012, at 4:17 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed this? I went through enough of that constant busy stuff before I got a working monitor. If 10.8 causes those problems, I don't think I'll be upgrading until they're fixed. On 7/27/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in busy messages in Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? Work-arounds? TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Can any Macbook User Confirm this?
Hey all, sorry for the late post. Chris, my Macbook is a white Macbook with 4 gigs of ram, and 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 duo. I don't know what else to be specific about. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: notification center
Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
Yes, I'm curious about this as well. After a bit of experimentation and a few visits to activity monitor, I've noticed that Growl is no longer running at start-up, even if I manually add it. Growl Saphari and Growl Tunes are listed in start-up, but not growl itself. I had to disable hardware growler for the time being, because if I let it run at startup, I get stuck in this window that says hardware growler has no windows. Since I love it that Mountain Lion starts me off on the desktop like Snowy Kitty did, I'm trying not to run anything at startup that might interfere with that. Anyway, I'm guessing that all of these issues might be part of a bug that is fixed when new growl is released, but at the moment, it seems that growl and notification center don't want to coexist, at least not by default. If I open my apps folder and run growl manually, then it seems to work, but it refuses to run at startup even when I tell it to, and a lot of its general options are either greyed out or missing entirely. Again, I suspect a lot will be fixed when Growl 2.0 is released. So, it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens. I set up growl from within notification center, but that doesn't help either. In fact, I'm wondering if that might be part of the problem that's preventing growl from running at start-up. It's a puzzler for sure! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: notification center
Interesting, I'm using the old version of growl and, it runs side by side with notification center and, its button is in system preferences still. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm curious about this as well. After a bit of experimentation and a few visits to activity monitor, I've noticed that Growl is no longer running at start-up, even if I manually add it. Growl Saphari and Growl Tunes are listed in start-up, but not growl itself. I had to disable hardware growler for the time being, because if I let it run at startup, I get stuck in this window that says hardware growler has no windows. Since I love it that Mountain Lion starts me off on the desktop like Snowy Kitty did, I'm trying not to run anything at startup that might interfere with that. Anyway, I'm guessing that all of these issues might be part of a bug that is fixed when new growl is released, but at the moment, it seems that growl and notification center don't want to coexist, at least not by default. If I open my apps folder and run growl manually, then it seems to work, but it refuses to run at startup even when I tell it to, and a lot of its general options are either greyed out or missing entirely. Again, I suspect a lot will be fixed when Growl 2.0 is released. So, it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens. I set up growl from within notification center, but that doesn't help either. In fact, I'm wondering if that might be part of the problem that's preventing growl from running at start-up. It's a puzzler for sure! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clean install?
Hi, I don't think so. I know for a fact you could install snow leopard over leopard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 3:22 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: On 28 Jul 2012, at 08:55, Shen wrote: Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! No way! I've never been a Windows user. I've been a Mac user for 16 years and I strongly recommend a clean install. Problems can be carried over from one OS to the next, so it's a good time to clean things up. Lion was the first OS that could be installed on top of the previous one, and I've seen so many people with problems from doing that. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
Hmm. That makes this even more puzzling. I'm running the new version of growl from the app store because somewhere along the line, I thought I had to switch to that. I think I have the old version on a USB drive, though, and if it actually works with ML, maybe I'll just go back to it. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Interesting, I'm using the old version of growl and, it runs side by side with notification center and, its button is in system preferences still. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm curious about this as well. After a bit of experimentation and a few visits to activity monitor, I've noticed that Growl is no longer running at start-up, even if I manually add it. Growl Saphari and Growl Tunes are listed in start-up, but not growl itself. I had to disable hardware growler for the time being, because if I let it run at startup, I get stuck in this window that says hardware growler has no windows. Since I love it that Mountain Lion starts me off on the desktop like Snowy Kitty did, I'm trying not to run anything at startup that might interfere with that. Anyway, I'm guessing that all of these issues might be part of a bug that is fixed when new growl is released, but at the moment, it seems that growl and notification center don't want to coexist, at least not by default. If I open my apps folder and run growl manually, then it seems to work, but it refuses to run at startup even when I tell it to, and a lot of its general options are either greyed out or missing entirely. Again, I suspect a lot will be fixed when Growl 2.0 is released. So, it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens. I set up growl from within notification center, but that doesn't help either. In fact, I'm wondering if that might be part of the problem that's preventing growl from running at start-up. It's a puzzler for sure! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:18 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Chris, in the last postings of this thread, you said that you remembered there being a way to set Growl up to work with Notification Center. I looked in system prefs under Notifications and saw no such setting. Also, in my list of applications in Growl preferences, Notification Center isn't there. How did you configure Growl to work with Notification Center? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain Lion Installed, Question re I Message.
Only the iPhone allows you to send iMessages using a mobile number. The other devices will only allow you to send iMessages to an e-mail address.- Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: Mountain Lion Installed, Question re I Message. The subject line says it all but when I write an I message how do I find a mobile number as I can find person's e-mail. On the I phone it gives all fields but not so on the Mac. I am still playing with Mountain Lion. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first possible bug in ML
Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is it possible the system is still booting up? Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box again. I would do a complete shut down, then startup. Hope that will help. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I hope that isn't the only long-term solution. Cheers, Donna On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you hit command+F5 to turn it on manually? If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn key. Chris. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM Subject: first possible bug in ML Hi all, Well, I think I've found my first bug with ML. I no longer have speech during the log-in process. To test this, shut down your Mac and reboot. You can still log in, but you will have no speech while you are doing it. Can anyone confirm? Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Non-English braille tables in Mountain Lion
Hi. I'm using the norwegian table, and nothing has changed to the better. -David On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Spanish table, and have never found any issues with it under Lion; I haven't yet tried it under Mountain Lion. The general focus issues with Braille displays, regardless of the language table are, I sincerely hope, improved. Harry On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Listers, I'd like to ask those of you who use non-English tables whether the problems reported under Lion have been fixed in Mountain lion? Best wishes Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: shortcut for muting speech
Mark, I got it. I found that in Keyboard commander. Once I hooked up my usb keyboard all went well. On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: You can do this with Keyboard Commander; I know there's a mute speech, option in the Navigation submenu, I believe. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A question about iTunes syncing
Hi, if it is music or other media excluding audiobooks, you can easily redownload them from the iTunes store. That being said, I would just backup and migrate that as well. You can also just copy the entire iTunes folder to an external drive, then put it back on your hard drive later. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:34 AM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: You'd better backup and get your music migrated. I am not sure about the method you describe, but all of the articles I've read recommend that you backup and then migrate. If you lose your iTunes library, I'm not sure how you'd get yourp your purchases back. Andrew On 28 Jul 2012, at 05:47, James Malone wrote: Hi there folks. I am about to download and install ML here on my macbook, but I had a question. If an iTunes library gets erased, but you still have all the stuff on your iPod, is it possible to make it so that the stuff goes from your iPod to the iTunes library instead of the other way round? Sure I can backup, that's no problem. Just wondered if it could be done. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Question about reading with a Braille display and VoiceOver
Hi all, My SyncBraille 20 is up and running nicely with SL and I've created a nice shortcut for muting speech. Now, if I mute my speech, how do I read email messages? When I intereact with VOJ I'm not seeing all of the message. Can any braille display users give me tips? Thanks, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first possible bug in ML
Hi Donna, have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain lion? I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started up right away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor this over the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you have your Mac set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter that manually? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is it possible the system is still booting up? Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box again. I would do a complete shut down, then startup. Hope that will help. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I hope that isn't the only long-term solution. Cheers, Donna On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What if you hit command+F5 to turn it on manually? If that doesn't work, try fn+Command+F5, provided you have an fn key. Chris. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:33 PM Subject: first possible bug in ML Hi all, Well, I think
Re: A question about iTunes syncing
I hesitate to say no but, its almost no. lol. It theoretically can be done but, the conditions would have to be right and, you might need some 3rd party app or, possibly jailbreaking your device. I hope I just didn't confuse the heck out of you. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:47 AM, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there folks. I am about to download and install ML here on my macbook, but I had a question. If an iTunes library gets erased, but you still have all the stuff on your iPod, is it possible to make it so that the stuff goes from your iPod to the iTunes library instead of the other way round? Sure I can backup, that's no problem. Just wondered if it could be done. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: where does mountain lion download to?
Hi, it downloads to your applications folder. But, after the downloads finishes, a dialog pops up asking you to press continue to start the installation process. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: HI. purchased mountain kitty and went out while it downloaded. However when i got home, i can't find it anywhere. I thought maybe it didn't download so I am currently redownloading it. Where does ml download to? thanks Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: why can't Textedit serve as a replacement for MS Word?
Hello all, This is perhaps a late response but I found this a interesting discussion and I wasn't able to answer before because of holidays. What's most frustrating for me is that we can't edit office-documents of others without distroying the made lay-out. The only option here should be to use ms office for mac but this isn't accessible at all, right? Also with pages, it seems not compatible with some (basic) lay-out tasks of ms office documents. So, to solve this, we should use windows or wate until??? Kind regards, William Windels Op 24-jul.-2012, om 15:17 heeft Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Johnny, here is the direct homepage for Bean. http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html I will now try to describe how you download and install it. Note two things. Once you understand how to install an app on the Mac, then it will apply to most apps that you want to use. With the exception of sometimes there being installers for some apps for the Mac but what I'm about to try to describe to you will probably be the most common situation. Another note. I am using OSX Lion so if it differs from previous Mac OS versions then I apologise but I reckon it shouldn't be all that much different. Ok lets use the website above as an example for you to install Bean and try it out for yourself! By the way it is a free app as you may probably notice. Once you go to the website, look for a link that called Download Bean. Once you've found it, do a VO space bar on it to start the download. Afther you've done this quickly press Command option L this will open the download dialog box. Chances are that if this does;doesn't happen i.e. the dialog box doesn't come up, it has been in my experience that it has already downloaded. However, if you catch the dialog then just wait for it to disappear and that should of downloaded it too. Now we have downloaded the DMG short of for Disc Image note you will find that this is a common thing that you will notice when downloading apps. Anyway we now need to get to this DMG. Chances are that by default it should be in your download's folder. A quick and nice easy way to get to it is to issue the keystroke Command Shift H. This will take you to your home directory. Once your there, locate the download folder and open it with command O. In there there should be an item called Bean install. Open this again with command O. there should be two times in there but what you want is the one called Bean.app if it just says Bean then you haven't gotten your file extensions enabled for you to reconize what extension your dealing with but trust me its an .app extention. If you want I'll tell you about how to enable that in another post but for now you want to copy this and place it in the application's folder. Copy command is Command C. Now close all your finder windows till you get to the desktop and to get to the application folder its simply a command shift A keystroke now paste the app in with command V and Bang! Its installed! The final thing you need to do is eject the disc image from the desktop this can be done with command E. Now go back to the application folder and open bean with Command O. A dialog box should pop up but just hit ok or whatever it it says. I can't remember now but once you dismiss that box, you will be in the bean application. Oh and to quit it, that is Command Q once your done messing around getting a feel for the word processor. I really hope this gets you going with downloading apps! I know at 1st it seems a weird way to install apps but I've had a Mac now about half a year and have come to think its a easier and simpler way to work with programmes than windows. That's just an opinion though. Enjoy! Daniel On 24 Jul 2012, at 13:12, William Windels wrote: Hello Johnny, The right link is: Download Bean If the link is not responding, try to save the source of the link with the save as option. Hope this helps, kind regards, William Windels Op 24-jul.-2012, om 08:17 heeft Johnny Angel! het volgende geschreven: Hi! Well I too went to rosie's page and I found an executable install link for Bean. I first did a cmd+enter on it and something happened, but I couldn't tell you what. Then I tried a VO+spacebar and got a file not found on this server with a 404 error page. So lets face it. I think I need to come to grips with myself and admit that I am in need of some serious downloading help. Wouldn't you say so? I really don't know if I actually downloaded anything or not. you see, my so called State-paid instructor set my Macbook up and never taught me anything. I remember finding a database program recommended by this wonderful group, but he couldn't tell me how to get it installed on my MBP. Anyway, please don't be too surprized if you feel a little sorry for me, - I frankly don't blame
Re: first possible bug in ML
Hi Ricardo, Yeah, I tried repairing permissions yesterday, and it didn't solve the problem. I do have my Mac set to display all user accounts. thanks, I'll look forward to hearing if you have any issues. This truly is strange. Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain lion? I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started up right away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor this over the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you have your Mac set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter that manually? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is it possible the system is still booting up? Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at the login screen. Close the Preferences, open it again and check the box again. I would do a complete shut down, then startup. Hope that will help. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Yes it is checked. I've now set my Mac to log in automatically, but I hope that isn't the only long-term solution. Cheers, Donna On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that you have voiceover in your login items system prefs paine under users set to read at the log on screen? What
working with data detectors?
Hiall, I was reading an email to find a guy's phone number. I found it, and vo said signature detected. I'd love it if the mac could automagically put the contact info into a new ocntact for me, but I don't know how to do it. How would I go about this, or any data detector, like an event or email detection? I am running Mountain Lion if that matters. Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ML Mail
Hi Laura Ann, If you restart your computer, it will start working again. Robert Carter On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: It worked yesterday with right arrow to expand in mail and left arrow to collapse but today I have to go to the menu and expand all or collapse all to do this. How do I get it back to right and left arrow working to do this. I have quick nav off. Laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: why can't Textedit serve as a replacement for MS Word?
The way I see it, you have one other choice: only use Mac! If you have a doc or docx file, will converting it to rtf, then saving it in that format, solve the problem? I suppose this isn't a surprise, though, as no two editors do things the same way, so compatibility in all aspects of formatting is probably never going to happen. I'm okay with moving away from a massively expensive and slow program like Office and using lower-cost one like Pages, or free ones like Textedit. Maybe we can help stop the monopoly Office has over anyone wanting to do wordprocessing... On 28 Jul 2012, at 09:42, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, This is perhaps a late response but I found this a interesting discussion and I wasn't able to answer before because of holidays. What's most frustrating for me is that we can't edit office-documents of others without distroying the made lay-out. The only option here should be to use ms office for mac but this isn't accessible at all, right? Also with pages, it seems not compatible with some (basic) lay-out tasks of ms office documents. So, to solve this, we should use windows or wate until??? Kind regards, William Windels Op 24-jul.-2012, om 15:17 heeft Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Johnny, here is the direct homepage for Bean. http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html I will now try to describe how you download and install it. Note two things. Once you understand how to install an app on the Mac, then it will apply to most apps that you want to use. With the exception of sometimes there being installers for some apps for the Mac but what I'm about to try to describe to you will probably be the most common situation. Another note. I am using OSX Lion so if it differs from previous Mac OS versions then I apologise but I reckon it shouldn't be all that much different. Ok lets use the website above as an example for you to install Bean and try it out for yourself! By the way it is a free app as you may probably notice. Once you go to the website, look for a link that called Download Bean. Once you've found it, do a VO space bar on it to start the download. Afther you've done this quickly press Command option L this will open the download dialog box. Chances are that if this does;doesn't happen i.e. the dialog box doesn't come up, it has been in my experience that it has already downloaded. However, if you catch the dialog then just wait for it to disappear and that should of downloaded it too. Now we have downloaded the DMG short of for Disc Image note you will find that this is a common thing that you will notice when downloading apps. Anyway we now need to get to this DMG. Chances are that by default it should be in your download's folder. A quick and nice easy way to get to it is to issue the keystroke Command Shift H. This will take you to your home directory. Once your there, locate the download folder and open it with command O. In there there should be an item called Bean install. Open this again with command O. there should be two times in there but what you want is the one called Bean.app if it just says Bean then you haven't gotten your file extensions enabled for you to reconize what extension your dealing with but trust me its an .app extention. If you want I'll tell you about how to enable that in another post but for now you want to copy this and place it in the application's folder. Copy command is Command C. Now close all your finder windows till you get to the desktop and to get to the application folder its simply a command shift A keystroke now paste the app in with command V and Bang! Its installed! The final thing you need to do is eject the disc image from the desktop this can be done with command E. Now go back to the application folder and open bean with Command O. A dialog box should pop up but just hit ok or whatever it it says. I can't remember now but once you dismiss that box, you will be in the bean application. Oh and to quit it, that is Command Q once your done messing around getting a feel for the word processor. I really hope this gets you going with downloading apps! I know at 1st it seems a weird way to install apps but I've had a Mac now about half a year and have come to think its a easier and simpler way to work with programmes than windows. That's just an opinion though. Enjoy! Daniel On 24 Jul 2012, at 13:12, William Windels wrote: Hello Johnny, The right link is: Download Bean If the link is not responding, try to save the source of the link with the save as option. Hope this helps, kind regards, William Windels Op 24-jul.-2012, om 08:17 heeft Johnny Angel! het volgende geschreven: Hi! Well I too went to rosie's page and I found an executable install link for Bean. I first did a cmd+enter on it and something
Re: A question about iTunes syncing
Ah ok, as I thought then. Thanks guys. On 7/28/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: I hesitate to say no but, its almost no. lol. It theoretically can be done but, the conditions would have to be right and, you might need some 3rd party app or, possibly jailbreaking your device. I hope I just didn't confuse the heck out of you. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:47 AM, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there folks. I am about to download and install ML here on my macbook, but I had a question. If an iTunes library gets erased, but you still have all the stuff on your iPod, is it possible to make it so that the stuff goes from your iPod to the iTunes library instead of the other way round? Sure I can backup, that's no problem. Just wondered if it could be done. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first possible bug in ML
Hi, This is a pretty basic question but, I don't think I've seen it asked in this thread, have you tried turning up the volume? Pressing f12 or, Function F12 will raise the volume. I notices that the headphone and internal speaker volumes are independent. I guess it might be possible one or the other got turned down? I know, its a wild shot but, stranger things have happened. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Ricardo, Yeah, I tried repairing permissions yesterday, and it didn't solve the problem. I do have my Mac set to display all user accounts. thanks, I'll look forward to hearing if you have any issues. This truly is strange. Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain lion? I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started up right away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor this over the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you have your Mac set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter that manually? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver is not coming on? Is it possible the system is still booting up? Also, just for giggles, unchecked the checkbox for starting VoiceOver at the login screen.
Re: ML Mail
Hi, I've also noticed just quitting mail, and opening it again will do the trick. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Laura Ann, If you restart your computer, it will start working again. Robert Carter On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: It worked yesterday with right arrow to expand in mail and left arrow to collapse but today I have to go to the menu and expand all or collapse all to do this. How do I get it back to right and left arrow working to do this. I have quick nav off. Laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain Lion Installed, Question re I Message.
I sent an I message to a mobile using their phone when in I message on the Mac. The steps I took to do it was as follows. 1. Find the contact within I message. 2. Press VO spacebar. I then for experiment sake, did vo down arrow. If you have the recepient's details filled in your contacts, you will see home tel, work tel, Messenger contact (which is not applicable) and their e-mail address. Just hit enter on what you want and you are ready to compose the Message and send. I hope this is useful to those who wish to do this on their macs. The only thing is how to delete a message from the Mac if you don't want to delete it from the I phone? Kawal. On 28 Jul 2012, at 11:00 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Only the iPhone allows you to send iMessages using a mobile number. The other devices will only allow you to send iMessages to an e-mail address.- Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: Mountain Lion Installed, Question re I Message. The subject line says it all but when I write an I message how do I find a mobile number as I can find person's e-mail. On the I phone it gives all fields but not so on the Mac. I am still playing with Mountain Lion. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mountain Lion for non-English users
Hi, All the speech bugs that i wanted to be fixed in the Swedish Nuance/Realspeak voices are indeed fixed. The Swedish Oskar voice no longer clashes with the system voice making the system voice go silent. The strange announcing of characters when typing with typing echo set to characters are gone and so is the pitch bug, where the Realspeak voice suddenly would go either up or down in pitch for no apparent reason. Beware though that after installation of Mountain lion you have to go to program update and choose to update everything, and then you will get the voices you want. I'm surpriced dictation isn't available in Dutch, since it's one of the big languages. What doesn't surprice me in the least though is that the dictation feature isn't available in Swedish, and probably never will be. /Krister 25 jul 2012 kl. 22:12 skrev William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com: Hello, I haven't still 10.8 because the update program of apple has problems but, I can already write some toughts because of things I have heard of others: For non-English users, 10.8 seems not so powerful and complete. I have heard that the speech bug for the nuance voices isn't fixed since the introduction a year ago ;) my address, william.wind...@gmail.com is spoken as willia.m@gmai.l If this is really true, is this a joke that they don't fix this after a year? Also, the dictation function that is introduced in 10.8 covers only a few languages and no dutch at the moment. I am courious when they will update their languages. I'll not completely negative about the new version until I have tested myself for a while but I'll always critical about new versions since they fix bugs very slow sometimes. Any comments are appreciated, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: working with data detectors?
Good Day: Here is the relevant extract from chapter 7 of the VoiceOver Getting Started guide, which is the last option in the VoiceOver help menu. Of course, VoiceOver now appears to be more specific about which data has been detected, but I think the instructions still apply. HTH: Henry Use data detectors in Mail messages Mail can detect specific information or data in messages and make it easier for you to use the data. For example, Mail can recognize phone numbers and add them to Contacts, or recognize a date and time and create an event in Calendar. In a message you’ve received, move the VoiceOver cursor over a phone number, email address, URL, street address, date, or time. Mail outlines the data as a field with a pop-up menu, and VoiceOver speaks “data detector.” To open a shortcut menu that contains commands for using the data, press VO-Shift-M. For example, if the data detector is the URL of a website, you can choose Open URL from the shortcut menu. On 28 Jul 2012, at 09:51, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hiall, I was reading an email to find a guy's phone number. I found it, and vo said signature detected. I'd love it if the mac could automagically put the contact info into a new ocntact for me, but I don't know how to do it. How would I go about this, or any data detector, like an event or email detection? I am running Mountain Lion if that matters. Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last. Sherlock Homes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mountain Lion Installation Question
Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hello, I am searching but can't find a userguide for voiceover in 10.8. The command vo+? gives a old and litle startersguid but not a usersguide. With google, I can't find it also after a first look. Any help would be appreciated, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hi, That's what you need, is the VoiceOver quickstart. To my knowledge, there isn't nor has there ever been a complete user guide for the mac with Vo published by apple. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Windels Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org Subject: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Hello, I am searching but can't find a userguide for voiceover in 10.8. The command vo+? gives a old and litle startersguid but not a usersguide. With google, I can't find it also after a first look. Any help would be appreciated, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Using Web Spots in Mountain Lion
Hey all, I have noticed since installing Mountain Lion all of my webspots are reversed meaning to jump down the page I am having to click VO shift left bracket to go right on the page and VO Shift right bracket to now go up the page. This is quite annoying as I have grown quite accustomed to the way everything was setup. Does anyone know if this is a setting that can be changed. I recall when Lion was introduced that I had to change the scrolling of the mouse as it was reversed to scroll down a page from what we were traditionally used to. also what is the best way to navigate this group as it takes me forever to get through the email digest, and to go to the web page still seems pretty inaccessible as sometimes I can find the content using auto web spots in the rotor and other times there is nothing there. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question
Hi, You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it. Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML. Yes, you can use a 32GB drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Have you tried the VO H help menu? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
Hi, I tried my XP machine under Vmware, and i didn't see any problems for what i'm using it for. I also have a virtual Windows 7 machine but haven't tested it. What is the problem i should be looking for? /Krister 25 jul 2012 kl. 20:27 skrev Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net: Hi listers, Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under Mountain Lyon. I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems in the past. Thanks for any reports. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clean install?
Hi, You are correct with respect to problems being carried over from one version to another. Depending on the problem, some are eliminated due to the newer components installed and some continue or are exacerbated. So, it is, in many cases, an individual machine and personal experience that will determine which process to proceed with. With respect to the upgrade of one OS to another as in Panther to Tiger, or Lion to Mountain Lion, the upgrade process has been around as long as I can remember. I performed upgrade installs back in the OS 7, 8, 9 days and also used the upgrade process for my upgrade from Panther to Tiger when VO was first introduced. Maybe I shouldn't have opened this can of worms. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-28, at 1:22 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: On 28 Jul 2012, at 08:55, Shen wrote: Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! No way! I've never been a Windows user. I've been a Mac user for 16 years and I strongly recommend a clean install. Problems can be carried over from one OS to the next, so it's a good time to clean things up. Lion was the first OS that could be installed on top of the previous one, and I've seen so many people with problems from doing that. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!
Hi, I'm successfully using my Alva Bc640 in bluetooth mode, and i've also used it successfully in Usb mode. /Krister 26 jul 2012 kl. 08:34 skrev Johanna Herranen johannamaria.herra...@gmail.com: Hi folks, I'm successfully using Baum VarioConnect 32 here with Mountain Lion. It's connected via USB, but I could try Bluetooth too - out of curiosity. Speaking of Braille suppor though, I wish one day they would fix all the issues with International braille tables. On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, but wait a minute. Can we be absolutely sure it's indeed braille display support in a whole that is messed up? Sounds like you're using a bluetooth display. Could it be that the issue only lies with BT displays, and not with regular connected u s b's? I'll have my best friend tonight, if I get ahold of him try it with his PM 40 display. It's not from the Omni, mind you, it's just the original display, but I know for a definite it worked in Lion, as he just left here from out of town about two days ago, and had the thing with him down here, and it was working great on LIon at that time, so who knows about M L though. I hope it works, as if not, that'll be a deal breaker for him, seeing that he's an interpretor/translator. Chris. - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:06 AM Subject: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion! I just tried to use my RefreshaBraille 18 display this evening and it doesn't work here anymore. First off, I had previously defined it under Lion and successfully used it several times. Tonight after the ML install, it would never connect. So then I removed the device from the bluetooth list in the Braille device section of VO. Then when I tried to pair it back up, I kept getting an error that VO couldn't load a device driver for this device. Has anyone else had success getting any braille displays to work under Mountain Lion? I will probably give Apple a call about this. I sure hope they didn't break support like they did with the Hims devices on IOS. BTW, I never got prompted to enter any pairing codes and I usually do when hooking up the Refreshabraille display. Any ideas here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clean install?
Hello Tim, yes, you're right. I'd forgotten about the Upgrade option. The difference now is that the upgrade is the default action and a clean install requires more effort. I come from a systems programming background, so I always did a clean install, just as I've always done a complete backup of my system before installing a new OS. Cheers, Anne (a senior citizen with lapses of memory!) On 28 Jul 2012, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, You are correct with respect to problems being carried over from one version to another. Depending on the problem, some are eliminated due to the newer components installed and some continue or are exacerbated. So, it is, in many cases, an individual machine and personal experience that will determine which process to proceed with. With respect to the upgrade of one OS to another as in Panther to Tiger, or Lion to Mountain Lion, the upgrade process has been around as long as I can remember. I performed upgrade installs back in the OS 7, 8, 9 days and also used the upgrade process for my upgrade from Panther to Tiger when VO was first introduced. Maybe I shouldn't have opened this can of worms. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Removing mailboxes from your favourites group
Hi, Lisette, You can drag the mailboxes back to the list.. I use whatever method I can, whether it's the VO-command-space method or the VO-comma, period, less and greater methods, or the trackpad. These are simply shortcuts to the actual mailboxes. HtH, Teresa On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks Thanks to all for answering the questions' we've all had. I've learned so much over the last few days thanks to all the keystrokes and detailed instructions. I learned how to drag and drop things into my favourites bar, but how do you remove things from there. I've got 7 mailboxes there now and need to remove some. I think Ricardo did a podcast on this but the steps there don't work for me. Maybe this has changed in ML. If anybody has some ideas I'd be grateful. Cheers Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
I don't think the User Guide is out yet. I asked an Apple rep about this very thing, and he stated that it wold be about a month before the actual Mt. Lion User Guide will be released. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first possible bug in ML
Yep, that was the first thing I tried. Never hurts to ask, though. :) Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This is a pretty basic question but, I don't think I've seen it asked in this thread, have you tried turning up the volume? Pressing f12 or, Function F12 will raise the volume. I notices that the headphone and internal speaker volumes are independent. I guess it might be possible one or the other got turned down? I know, its a wild shot but, stranger things have happened. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Ricardo, Yeah, I tried repairing permissions yesterday, and it didn't solve the problem. I do have my Mac set to display all user accounts. thanks, I'll look forward to hearing if you have any issues. This truly is strange. Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, have you tried repairing permissions since you've upgraded to mountain lion? I've just turned on manual login , and restarted my MBP. VO started up right away and announced I was in a security edit field. I will monitor this over the weekend to see if this problem pops up for me. BTW, do you have your Mac set to display all user accounts or, do you need to enter that manually? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, Thanks for trying so hard to help. I don't have an encrypted hard drive, and no, I'm not pressing the FN key at all. I may yet try a clean install, but since that's the only problem I'm having, I don't know if it's worth all that work. :) Cheers, Donna On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, OK, just so we cover all possibilities. You don't have an encrypted hard drive right? Because VoiceOver does not speak at the login screen with an encrypted hard drive. OK, let's assume you don't have that since this just happened to you after installing Mount Lion. I posted an email a few moments ago about the merits of a clean install versus upgrade. I am out of ideas at the moment, but I am still brainstorming for you. I think your next step is probably taking the machine in and show it to the Genius Bar. I assume it is a laptop. Also, since you mentioned Dictation, I found out that by pressing the function key twice, you enable Dictation. So hopefully you are not doing that. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Shen, When I'm logging in, no key presses work, not Command F5, and not the volume keys. The other thing that's weird is when I get logged in, VO first says Dictation IM has no windows. I squirm around until I get out of that, and then end up in another window that says something like System Core UI has no Windows. More squirming till I eventually get out of that. It's all very odd. And if I set login prefs to log in automatically, I have no issues, i.e. the Dictation And Core UI windows don't appear at all. Cheers, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna, Not sure why this is happening to you. Then again, I have strange things happen to my VoiceOver as well that I'm sure no one has experienced. Please do let me know what happens if you decide to call Apple Accessibility or bring your machine into the Genius Bar. Just out of curiosity, have you tried pressing Command-F5 at the login screen to see if VoiceOver starts or not? Let's say, that VoiceOver is running, but just isn't speaking. If you press Command-F5, that will then turn it off. Assuming nothing else is wrong, if you press Command-F5 again, it should come back on and you should hear speech. I know this is a pain in the butt. On 7/27/12, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Matthew, Well, glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. I wrote to Apple Accessibility also, so I'll let you know if I hear anything. Best, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Donna. I to am seeing this. In my case, it seems to work every so often. I guess it needs to be in the right mood to work properly. *Smile*. I'm going to send a message to apple accessibility about this one and I'll report back on any feedback I get. On 2012-07-27, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi, I've waited a good couple of minutes. Also, when I interact and enter my password, I am able to log in. And I have done what you suggested. Still not getting VO at login. Thanks, Donna On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: How long are you waiting before realizing VoiceOver
RE: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hello, Yes, the guide is out, I just went to it on my mac. That link William gave is the SL version, but accessing the getting started guide under ML gives you the ML version of that same guide. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! I don't think the User Guide is out yet. I asked an Apple rep about this very thing, and he stated that it wold be about a month before the actual Mt. Lion User Guide will be released. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about reading with a Braille display and VoiceOver
Hi, Stacey, I'm not familiar with your Braille display. You might try checking out your list of commands in VO utility's Braille section. You can also turn on keyboard help and press Braille keys to hear a description of what they do. You are looking for pan-left and pan-right keys. HtH Teresa On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi all, My SyncBraille 20 is up and running nicely with SL and I've created a nice shortcut for muting speech. Now, if I mute my speech, how do I read email messages? When I intereact with VOJ I'm not seeing all of the message. Can any braille display users give me tips? Thanks, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ML Mail
Thanks Robert, I did and it is. Laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: clean install?
It turns out that the joke is on me, anyway. The original problem that caused me to do two reinstalls is back again, namely, sys diagnose files randomly opening up finder windows. However, VO is much more responsive after my clean install this time. I'm not sure which I'll do with the next upgrade. Teresa On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! Keep in mind that the Mac OS X is a very large and complex operating software. As you can see in the App Store download, it is over 4.3 GB. In the history of software computing, nothing has worked 100 percent perfectly with no bugs. Bugs are bound to happen. Isolated incidents are inevitable. Having said that, I will share my experience. I am guilty as charged of my own statement. I also thought that a clean install will make my Mac run faster and more smoothly. I first installed Lion as an upgrade over Snow Leopard. I had problems. Most of the bugs are small, none are show-stoppers. So I decided to do a clean install. Yes, things improved, but not in such a way that convinced me the clean install was the solution. I come to believe now that Lion was just a buggy version. When Mountain Lion came out, I installed it as an upgrade over Lion. Boy was it a huge difference over Lion. My startup time is much faster, and in just a few days of using it, I've not had any problems. So essentially, Mountain Lion made a better Mac out of my machine. I think it's an individual situation. If upgrading is not doing it for you, perhaps a clean install will take care of it. But don't think of upgrades as different from a clean install. Remember, if you think clean installs are better, you must be a Windows user. Lol! Upgrade is just as good as a clean install. At the moment, I have no desire to do a clean install of Mountain Lion. On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Tim: You've ben doing this for a long time. You've also helped a lot of people on this list. So, believe me, I respect and trust your judgement. However, when I purchased Lion last year, I did do an upgrade installation. Believe me, I wanted to do that, also, a lot of knowledgeable people like yourself told me it was no problem. However, something went wrong in my case! voiceover didn't behave well at all, moving around on web pages by heading etc, just didn't work half the time. I was having all kinds of problems like that. So, I went back and did a clean install. After that, I was much much happier. So, when I got ml, I simply took the extra time and did the clean install and then used the migration wizard to retrieve all my data. I didn't really even want to do that, because, it retrieved all my settings and preferences, so, really, this isn't a complete fresh install. But, so far, it's working ok. there are a few annoying things, but, it has nothing to do with performance, just new things voiceover says that I think we could do without So, I guess it just boils down to whatever works for the individual person. On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just my opinion of course but I'll pipe in here with a further comment. I do hear a lot of folks on this list speaking of using Clean Installs. I'm guessing that they may be coming from a Windows background where clean installs seem to be needed more often due to corrupt files. For the most part though, in the MacOS, this is unnecessary unless you are experiencing very erratic behavior. 99 times out of 100 I've been able to fix the issue by repairing disk permissions or removing and reinstalling an offending app. People should do what they are most comfortable doing although I'm one who doesn't care spending a huge amount of time fiddling with things when I could be enjoying them instead. Have a good one all. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-07-27, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you for the most part, Tim. However, after having my Mac Mini for two years without doing a clean install, VO began muting itself spontaneously, and a sys diagnose file began appearing without warning in a finder window. I decided to use a clean install to clear these things up. Believe me, I do think the upgrades are much, much easier, and I will use them as long as my machine isn't acting up. Teresa On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In my opinion, the clean install would be totally unnecessary. I've done 100s or even 1000s of upgrade installs in my career and have only experienced one problem. The upgrade process is tested quite rigorously and, really, for the most part, is no different than a clean install and migration. As long
Re: Question about reading with a Braille display and VoiceOver
Hi Thersa, Thanks so much for the suggestion. I found what I was looking for there. If I have speech muted and I want to read through email messages, what would be the easist way to do this? On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Stacey, I'm not familiar with your Braille display. You might try checking out your list of commands in VO utility's Braille section. You can also turn on keyboard help and press Braille keys to hear a description of what they do. You are looking for pan-left and pan-right keys. HtH Teresa On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi all, My SyncBraille 20 is up and running nicely with SL and I've created a nice shortcut for muting speech. Now, if I mute my speech, how do I read email messages? When I intereact with VOJ I'm not seeing all of the message. Can any braille display users give me tips? Thanks, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Removing mailboxes from your favourites group
Hello, I am also interesting in this. I have used a workaround for this by disabling the account that I want to remove from the favorites. This works for me situation but isn't of course useful for everyone who want to remove a folder from the favorites in mail. Kind regards, william Windels Op 28-jul.-2012, om 04:15 heeft Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi folks Thanks to all for answering the questions' we've all had. I've learned so much over the last few days thanks to all the keystrokes and detailed instructions. I learned how to drag and drop things into my favourites bar, but how do you remove things from there. I've got 7 mailboxes there now and need to remove some. I think Ricardo did a podcast on this but the steps there don't work for me. Maybe this has changed in ML. If anybody has some ideas I'd be grateful. Cheers Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Install the latest version of dropbox. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of trahern culver Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:14 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question
Great thanks I will first make a copy then do the installation. It seems from the comments on this list that it would be best to do a completely clean install. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:52 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question Hi, You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it. Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML. Yes, you can use a 32GB drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question
Yes, I would also recommend doing that, as doing an upgrade can cause issues that may not crop up for a while. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question Great thanks I will first make a copy then do the installation. It seems from the comments on this list that it would be best to do a completely clean install. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:52 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question Hi, You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it. Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML. Yes, you can use a 32GB drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hi William, I'm adapting a post made yesterday on the mac-access list to give you a link to the URL for the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8) that you want. I assume you would prefer a version in Dutch: http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/Dutch.lproj/index.html For English speakers, the link to the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Mountain Lion is: http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/index.html HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:46 AM, William Windels wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
It's not a podcast. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/ Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org _ ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Hi Esther, The English link you provided took me to the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi William, I'm adapting a post made yesterday on the mac-access list to give you a link to the URL for the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8) that you want. I assume you would prefer a version in Dutch: http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/Dutch.lproj/index.html For English speakers, the link to the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Mountain Lion is: http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/index.html HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:46 AM, William Windels wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
Their Web site says it is made available as one in itunes on their site. Strange it isn't there since the site says it is made available. Thanks, Laura Ann On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: It’s not a podcast. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
I only see the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide. Is that what you are referring to? If not, then I cannot locate the Mountain Lion Getting Started Guide. In the past, when the Users Guide for the Operating Systems came out, there would be 1 chapter dedicated to VoiceOver and the remainder would be related to the OS itself. I think that's what we are looking for, and cannot locate. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Yes, the guide is out, I just went to it on my mac. That link William gave is the SL version, but accessing the getting started guide under ML gives you the ML version of that same guide. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! I don't think the User Guide is out yet. I asked an Apple rep about this very thing, and he stated that it wold be about a month before the actual Mt. Lion User Guide will be released. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in
Hello Krister. If you were running VM Fusion 4 prior to upgrading to Mountain Lion everything works. If on the otherhand you had VM Fusion version 3 then you must upgrade VM Fusion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in Hi, I tried my XP machine under Vmware, and i didn't see any problems for what i'm using it for. I also have a virtual Windows 7 machine but haven't tested it. What is the problem i should be looking for? /Krister 25 jul 2012 kl. 20:27 skrev Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net: Hi listers, Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under Mountain Lyon. I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had authorization problems in the past. Thanks for any reports. Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
Yes, that's the link ester just posted in this thread as well. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! I only see the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide. Is that what you are referring to? If not, then I cannot locate the Mountain Lion Getting Started Guide. In the past, when the Users Guide for the Operating Systems came out, there would be 1 chapter dedicated to VoiceOver and the remainder would be related to the OS itself. I think that's what we are looking for, and cannot locate. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Yes, the guide is out, I just went to it on my mac. That link William gave is the SL version, but accessing the getting started guide under ML gives you the ML version of that same guide. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! I don't think the User Guide is out yet. I asked an Apple rep about this very thing, and he stated that it wold be about a month before the actual Mt. Lion User Guide will be released. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
RE: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
Weird. I never thought it was. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release Their Web site says it is made available as one in itunes on their site. Strange it isn't there since the site says it is made available. Thanks, Laura Ann On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: It's not a podcast. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/ Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org _ ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
Hi Laura ann, I think it's probably not up yet; at least it wasn't earlier this morning when I checked. The latest show I saw was for Friday, July 20. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Their Web site says it is made available as one in itunes on their site. Strange it isn't there since the site says it is made available. Thanks, Laura Ann On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: It’s not a podcast. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
That's true. It is not there yet. However you can subscribe to main menu using Itunes. 1. Go to advanced, subscribe to feed. 2. In the URL edit field type. http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php 3. click subscribe and you are done. Nektarios. On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Laura ann, I think it's probably not up yet; at least it wasn't earlier this morning when I checked. The latest show I saw was for Friday, July 20. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Their Web site says it is made available as one in itunes on their site. Strange it isn't there since the site says it is made available. Thanks, Laura Ann On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: It’s not a podcast. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release When I search for ACB main menu radio or any combination its not showing up in Itunes. Would like to subscribe to the podcase but can't find it in the itunes store. What should I search under? I have also put the combo of words run together incase that would help. Laura Ann On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, David Tanner wrote: Just hours ago, Apple released their new operating system, Mac OS10.8, known as Mountain Lion. Main Menu is pleased to be one of the first to cover this brand new operating system. On this week's Main Menu, Chase Crispin speaks with David Woodbridge about many new and exciting features in Mountain Lion. David then demonstrates some of the new changes in accessibility that you will find when you upgrade to Mountain Lion. We will bring you more demos of Mountain Lion functions in the coming weeks as well. This is an exciting show that you won't want to miss, especially if you are a Mac user who is going to upgrade, or who has just upgraded, to Mountain Lion. Main Menu can first be heard on Fridays at 9:00 pm Eastern time. It airs throughout Saturday on ACB Radio Mainstream. http://www.acbradio.org/mainstream It is also available in the iTunes store, in the iBlink Radio app for IOS and Android devices, and is available to Radio Reading Services around the world. Subscribe to the Main Menu podcast feed at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php Visit the Main Menu website at: http://mainmenu.acbradio.org Follow MainMenu on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/mainmenu Subscribe to a list where you can interact with other Main Menu listeners and the Main Menu staff by sending a blank email message to: mm-friends-subscribe at acbradio.org ___ Announce mailing list annou...@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/announce David Tanner - Host MainMenu Technology from a blindness perspective! www.mainmenu.acbradio.org www.twitter.com/mainmenu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
Exceedingly frustrating problem trying to attach file to e-mail
OK, so I've got a few pdf's in my downloads folder, and I want to place them in Documents so that I can attach them. Going into preview with ML, I went into the file menu and tried Save, but it isn't giving me the ability to change the name and save them in documents. So, I tried going to the sidebar when interacting with the tool bar, to attach, but each time I try to move over to Today for files which were open today, I get a mail busy and I get knocked into the headers fields. I have tried multiple times, and cannot get to Today. I tried searching for pdf -- and it won't pull up the pdf's in the downloads folder. In the list of places where I wish to select files, I do not see a choice for downloads folder. I have tried selecting and copying the files from downloads into documents -- but it will not work. I am at my wit's end. Any ideas would be helpful; I have been trying to find a workaround for over an hour, and I am rather fed up. TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mountain Lion for non-English users
Hello. Most of what you said is also true for The Greek language. Voice over now speaks like a native Greek speaker, smile!!! They also gave a new excellent female Greek voice. They also corrected some Braille issues with the language. Apple rocks!!! Nektarios. On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, All the speech bugs that i wanted to be fixed in the Swedish Nuance/Realspeak voices are indeed fixed. The Swedish Oskar voice no longer clashes with the system voice making the system voice go silent. The strange announcing of characters when typing with typing echo set to characters are gone and so is the pitch bug, where the Realspeak voice suddenly would go either up or down in pitch for no apparent reason. Beware though that after installation of Mountain lion you have to go to program update and choose to update everything, and then you will get the voices you want. I'm surpriced dictation isn't available in Dutch, since it's one of the big languages. What doesn't surprice me in the least though is that the dictation feature isn't available in Swedish, and probably never will be. /Krister 25 jul 2012 kl. 22:12 skrev William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com: Hello, I haven't still 10.8 because the update program of apple has problems but, I can already write some toughts because of things I have heard of others: For non-English users, 10.8 seems not so powerful and complete. I have heard that the speech bug for the nuance voices isn't fixed since the introduction a year ago ;) my address, william.wind...@gmail.com is spoken as willia.m@gmai.l If this is really true, is this a joke that they don't fix this after a year? Also, the dictation function that is introduced in 10.8 covers only a few languages and no dutch at the moment. I am courious when they will update their languages. I'll not completely negative about the new version until I have tested myself for a while but I'll always critical about new versions since they fix bugs very slow sometimes. Any comments are appreciated, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
Hi, You can't do that anymore. The spotlight menu is now at the right of the Extras menu, aka status menus. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: notification center
Missy, you are right in assuming that Growl not starting up at login is a bug. With me, it depends on how its mood is. Lol. But I read that they do plan on addressing this bug in a future update. HTH. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly frustrating problem trying to attach file to e-mail
Hi, Christine, You have several options. The easiest one in my opinion is to find the files in downloads, copy them, and then either command-v to paste or command-option-v to move them right into the message body. Another method is to press command-shift-a to attach, and then, in the browse dialog, press command-shift-h to go to your home folder and find the downloads folder there. HtH, Teresa On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so I've got a few pdf's in my downloads folder, and I want to place them in Documents so that I can attach them. Going into preview with ML, I went into the file menu and tried Save, but it isn't giving me the ability to change the name and save them in documents. So, I tried going to the sidebar when interacting with the tool bar, to attach, but each time I try to move over to Today for files which were open today, I get a mail busy and I get knocked into the headers fields. I have tried multiple times, and cannot get to Today. I tried searching for pdf -- and it won't pull up the pdf's in the downloads folder. In the list of places where I wish to select files, I do not see a choice for downloads folder. I have tried selecting and copying the files from downloads into documents -- but it will not work. I am at my wit's end. Any ideas would be helpful; I have been trying to find a workaround for over an hour, and I am rather fed up. TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
If you want to get to the Spotlight search box very quickly, simply hold down the command key and hit the spacebar. Spotlight search will popup. To exit, simply press Escape. Chris On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:28, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can't do that anymore. The spotlight menu is now at the right of the Extras menu, aka status menus. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
To interact with an menu extra you simply press VO + Space and then use your down arrow to explore the menus. On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:12, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mountain Lion for non-English users
Hi, I'm glad things are working for you guys. Apple rocks indeed, but I have to say, we finns weren't so lucky. New Finnish Mikko voice is now made in such a way, that it tries to read English correctly. Finnish and English have very different phonetics, and so this causes some conflicts in Finnish then. Also, if someone is depending on speech only, in some cases there is absolutely no way to know what actually is on the screen. There are conflicts like: word join. To join in English, but that actually is a Finnish word also. It is indeed very very annoying if a Finnish synth tries to detect English words and pronounce them the correct Enblish way -- especially if the word in question was meant to be a Finnish word and mean to be pronounced differently. Yes, I know there is a way to tell VoiceOver how to pronounce things, but this is a huge issue, and just making a customized dictionary won't fix it. Also, there still are issues with the Finnish braille table. The best solution at the moment is just to use the Swedish table. There at least most of the things are the same as in correct Finnish table. I found a workaround to get back my older Nuance voice, otherwise I would now be pulling my hair out. I really hope all these language issues will get fixed at some point -- the sooner, the better. Johanna On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Nektarios Mallas nmal...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Most of what you said is also true for The Greek language. Voice over now speaks like a native Greek speaker, smile!!! They also gave a new excellent female Greek voice. They also corrected some Braille issues with the language. Apple rocks!!! Nektarios. On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, All the speech bugs that i wanted to be fixed in the Swedish Nuance/Realspeak voices are indeed fixed. The Swedish Oskar voice no longer clashes with the system voice making the system voice go silent. The strange announcing of characters when typing with typing echo set to characters are gone and so is the pitch bug, where the Realspeak voice suddenly would go either up or down in pitch for no apparent reason. Beware though that after installation of Mountain lion you have to go to program update and choose to update everything, and then you will get the voices you want. I'm surpriced dictation isn't available in Dutch, since it's one of the big languages. What doesn't surprice me in the least though is that the dictation feature isn't available in Swedish, and probably never will be. /Krister 25 jul 2012 kl. 22:12 skrev William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com: Hello, I haven't still 10.8 because the update program of apple has problems but, I can already write some toughts because of things I have heard of others: For non-English users, 10.8 seems not so powerful and complete. I have heard that the speech bug for the nuance voices isn't fixed since the introduction a year ago ;) my address, william.wind...@gmail.com is spoken as willia.m@gmai.l If this is really true, is this a joke that they don't fix this after a year? Also, the dictation function that is introduced in 10.8 covers only a few languages and no dutch at the moment. I am courious when they will update their languages. I'll not completely negative about the new version until I have tested myself for a while but I'll always critical about new versions since they fix bugs very slow sometimes. Any comments are appreciated, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: The Latest Version of Dropbox is Much More Accessible, WasDropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Folks, definitely do upgrade to the latest dropbox. Even the installer and setup is almost totally accessible now. HtH, Teresa On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
VO M TWO times is the maximum you should have to hit it, but I see now by experimentation that hitting it three times will just stall on Menu Extras, which is like the Status menu in Snow Leopard. Spotlight comes up with the command-space shortcut… • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MainMenu Coverage Of Mountain Lion Release
Awesome!!! Thank you got it. I knew there was a way just didn't know how to do that. Love learning. Appreciate you taking the time to respond and help me. Have a wonderful day. laura Ann On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: That's true. It is not there yet. However you can subscribe to main menu using Itunes. 1. Go to advanced, subscribe to feed. 2. In the URL edit field type. http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php 3. click subscribe and you are done. Nektarios. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: notification center
Hi there! Thanks to Chris's suggestion on this list, I simply went back to Growl version 1.22F or whatever it was called. It's the last version that put growl in system preferences. Anyway, I only stopped using that because I somehow got the impression that it didn't work with lion. Well, to make a long story a bit shorter, it seems to be working beautifully under Mountain Lion, so unless there's a very compelling reason to update it at a later date, I'm planning to just keep that version; it does what I need it to do, and as long as it works, that's good enough for me. Thanks! Missy _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: notification center Missy, you are right in assuming that Growl not starting up at login is a bug. With me, it depends on how its mood is. Lol. But I read that they do plan on addressing this bug in a future update. HTH. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Missy, Can you point me to a link where I can grab that version? I know it's an unstable one, but I need to grab the dmg to put in my folder where I keep all my disc images of stuff whenever I need to reinstall the OS. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Okay, I went to the App Store and cannot find dropbox. Is there a version for the Mac, or is it for the iPhone? Thanks. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
It seems to be perfectly stable to me. I would suggest trying to do a google search for dropbox beta. If it doesn't show up that way, let me know, and we'll try something else. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Missy, Can you point me to a link where I can grab that version? I know it's an unstable one, but I need to grab the dmg to put in my folder where I keep all my disc images of stuff whenever I need to reinstall the OS. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
You have to go to www.dropbox.com. It's not an app store app. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Okay, I went to the App Store and cannot find dropbox. Is there a version for the Mac, or is it for the iPhone? Thanks. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Non-English braille tables in Mountain Lion
David, This is bad news indeed, as I had been repeatedly reporting problems with polish Braille tables under Lion. Have you reported your finding to Accessibility? The more we report the more likely it is that things may change. Best wishes Andrew On 28 Jul 2012, at 13:14, David Hole wrote: Hi. I'm using the norwegian table, and nothing has changed to the better. -David On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Spanish table, and have never found any issues with it under Lion; I haven't yet tried it under Mountain Lion. The general focus issues with Braille displays, regardless of the language table are, I sincerely hope, improved. Harry On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Listers, I'd like to ask those of you who use non-English tables whether the problems reported under Lion have been fixed in Mountain lion? Best wishes Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Here's a direct download link to 1.4: https://www.dropbox.com/downloading/ and 1.5 beta: http://dl-web.dropbox.com/u/17/Dropbox%201.5.10.dmg HtH, Teresa On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be perfectly stable to me. I would suggest trying to do a google search for dropbox beta. If it doesn't show up that way, let me know, and we'll try something else. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Missy, Can you point me to a link where I can grab that version? I know it’s an unstable one, but I need to grab the dmg to put in my folder where I keep all my disc images of stuff whenever I need to reinstall the OS. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder?
Okay, got it. As soon as I sent out my query, it dawned on me that I needed to go to their web site. Too much going on with this upgrade and everything to learn! Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: You have to go to www.dropbox.com. It’s not an app store app. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Okay, I went to the App Store and cannot find dropbox. Is there a version for the Mac, or is it for the iPhone? Thanks. Les On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I've got dropbox 1.5.10 running. I haven't checked the context menu, but I'd be willing to bet it's working. I've also heard that the install is now accessible, but since I was just upgrading, I didn't get to experience this for myself. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dropbox menu gone from the context menu in files in the publick dropbox folder? Are you sure you have the latest dropbox? The latest version of dropbox is version 4.12. Get the latest version of dropbox, and your problem will entirely go away. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, trahern culver tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: hey all i went to share some files with some one from my publick drop box folder i right clicked the context menue as you do but the drop box sub menu has vanished does any one know what the problem is? your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
That's awesome. Thanks. So, where are you finding these terrific shortcuts? What documentation should I be perusing? Christine On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to get to the Spotlight search box very quickly, simply hold down the command key and hit the spacebar. Spotlight search will popup. To exit, simply press Escape. Chris On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:28, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can't do that anymore. The spotlight menu is now at the right of the Extras menu, aka status menus. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
Go to the Getting started Guide in the Voiceover help menu. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing That's awesome. Thanks. So, where are you finding these terrific shortcuts? What documentation should I be perusing? Christine On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to get to the Spotlight search box very quickly, simply hold down the command key and hit the spacebar. Spotlight search will popup. To exit, simply press Escape. Chris On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:28, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can't do that anymore. The spotlight menu is now at the right of the Extras menu, aka status menus. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear menu extras -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says sync menu extra and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain Lion Installation Question
Hi, just to add, you don't even need all of the 32GB drive either. You can creat a 8GB partition and make that the bootable drive. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it. Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML. Yes, you can use a 32GB drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls!
this might help: http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html Rachel - Jul 27, 2012 On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:46 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, the quick start gives just some general commands and concepts about voiceover and I know most of them very well since I work for 4 years with the mac. ON the bottom of my message, you could find a link of the userguide for voiceover in 10.6. That's what I am looking for for 10.8 but it will perhaps become later! Kind regards, William Windels http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Op 28-jul.-2012, om 16:56 heeft Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: That's what he's talking about, the quickstart guide on that menu. He wants a more comprehensive guide, apparently, which there has never been, seeing as that's comprehensive enough. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk Baxter Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! Have you tried the VO H help menu? . Mark BurningHawk Baxter . AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page: . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question
One other question and I apologize if this has been asked multiple times. I have had a hard time keeping up with the list do to travel. Can someone please point me to a step by step creation of the installation disc. I am going to use the 32 GB thumb drive this is a figh end 32 GB Micro key Flash drive. Again thanks to all. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 14:30 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mountain Lion Installation Question Hi, just to add, you don't even need all of the 32GB drive either. You can creat a 8GB partition and make that the bootable drive. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it. Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML. Yes, you can use a 32GB drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful!
Hello All. I am going to copy Apple Accessibility into this message. OK, have not configured mail yet in Mountain Lion, but, I want to thank publicly, all those beta testers, developers and of course Apple for making Mountain Lion a joy to work with. I without reading any guide, have installed Skype and have used it, Face Time, notification centre and now the lovely Calendar which is a great improvement to what we had in Lion and Snow Lepard. I think we should thank everyone who have worked hard to make this release a wonderful experience. It may not be perfect, and it may be full of bugs, but without the vision of Apple and the dedicated support from all those who have dedicated themselves to make Voice Over to work with many applications should be thanked publicly so I am doing this. Thank you all. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
still busy busy busy in lion
Still having the busy busy messages in Itunes and must wait. eventually it stops but is acting the same as before I repaired permissions. Open to other ideas to increase performance. Macbook pro 8 gb ram, 2.0 quad core I7 processor, 500 GB HD, lion with latest updates. Thanks, laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: still busy busy busy in lion
iTunes does it the worst out of every app, from what I see. Unfortunately, it's something you have to just live with. Perhaps when iTunes 11 is released, things will be better. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Laura ann Grymes, LMT Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: still busy busy busy in lion Still having the busy busy messages in Itunes and must wait. eventually it stops but is acting the same as before I repaired permissions. Open to other ideas to increase performance. Macbook pro 8 gb ram, 2.0 quad core I7 processor, 500 GB HD, lion with latest updates. Thanks, laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading rss in mail.
Hi: RSS is gone in mail. I use Newsrack. It's good. On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: Hi guys. I used to read my rss feeds within the mail client. After I upgraded to Mountain Lion yesterday, I don't think I can find my rss feeds anywhere within mail. What happened? Are we now supposed to read rss differently? Any help is appreciated. Nektarios. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Observations about mountain lion so far
Okay. I am going to try to dictate this entire message, because I wanted to see exactly what the result is if it is left uncorrected. I have some interesting observations about mountain lion. Beginning with Safari six. And I think you'll find this quite interesting. It used to be the case that enlightenment, as well as Snow Leopard before it, that whenever you open the page in Safari, you didn't always know when the page loaded because it never made a little sound that was supposed to make. Sometimes it did; but, sometimes it did not. And whenever that was the case, you didn't get always and I Gurode exactly when the page loaded and when it was still loading. So far, with Mountain lion, this problem seems to have entirely going away! This, so far as I'm concerned, is nothing but a good thing at least in my opinion. The dictation, which I am now using, is not done on the Mac itself; rather, what you say in dictation mode is sent to the Apple servers, and, the Apple servers send you back what you say or what it thinks you said in text. In fact, I hardly ever type anymore. This, assumes however, that the servers are working correctly. Yesterday, there was a slight hiccup in the servers; and as a result, the dictation was down for a short while. This text seems to be pretty accurate so far. There is however with respect to the dictation, a limit as to how much it can take at the time. I think, maybe, that the character limit is 160 characters. However, I'm not entirely certain of that. I find that it is best to say perhaps three or four sentences, then, release the dictation key and but the process take place. Now, I know what you're thinking. You're probably thinking, wouldn't it be faster than just a type. Well, maybe, but, this is fun. I must've that, however, but I am a little surprised that the dictation is as good as it is considering don't get who we are microphone but I'm using. With respect to the notice section, I think that we are all pretty much agreed that it leaves something to be desired, but, perhaps they will improve this in the future releases who knows, I hope so. Of course, most of us are familiar with the fact that Apple has not given us access to the hidden menus; or rather, those menus which were hidden before in certain apps that didn't use the standard menu accessibility procedures. I'm thinking, maybe, I'll drop box in this case. And, of course, others have mentioned other applications which have hitherto been on accessible in this way, but, which are now accessible through mountain lion. I think somebody mentioned with a program like this once. Anyway, I find myself not just pleased with Mountain lion; but rather, extraordinarily pleased with that. I wonder what marvelous updates they will come up with in the future to further improve the software. But then again, I'm sure we're all wondering that. Well, that's about all. PS. This message has been entirely dictated, and, not a single word of it has been typed. I have not touched the keyboard at all, except, to press the F8 key from time to time. That was the best in key., Let me try to get the F in key. All I think I'm losing my accuracy here. The F and G. Okay, I'm just going to have to give in and type this. the FN key. Well, I guess everything has its limits.Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Observations about mountain lion so far
Hello. I have been having a lot of fun with Mountain lion these last few days, and I would like to comment on what you said. I, too, by the way, I'm dictating this entire letter. Just because I can. In the first place, the instances of the web loading noise being made by voice over being intermittent is still happening to me. Eat.G that, sometimes voiceover will make the loaded complete noise, and sometimes it will not. I do not see any factors which are consistent between these times. However, being on broadband cable, I usually just assume that a webpage loads within three or four seconds, and act accordingly. It should not lead me astray so far. About notification Center: I think it was designed, as was the OS, for sighted people. That having been said, Apple should be highly applauded, as I have commented before, at its universal accessibility. This does not mean, however, that notification Center must necessarily be adapted for voiceover users; in the case of many voiceover users, as has been discussed, there is no real need for it, given the redundancy of alerts and messages we already received. This may not be the case, however, presided users, who often used to split the computer with little to no audio enhancement, unfortunately. Okay, I am about done having fun with dictation. Dictated but not read, sincerely • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
