the bluetooth pairing issue
Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
An explanation of interaction required
Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Hi, I'm only a year into using the Mac and still use Windows as well but here's my take on it. While it can be a bit time consuming and fiddly sometimes interacting with several layers I can see benefits to the approach as well. For example, in Windows you have several different keystrokes to accomplish similar goals to the VO interacting thing i.e. accessing different parts of the screen. e.g. if you wanted to access a toolbar on Windows (if you could access it) you would need to sometimes press Control Tab or sometimes use something like the JAWS/WE cursor. Whereas on the Mac, assuming the particular app is accessible, you just move around the screen and pick which part of it you want to use. I also think requiring us to interact with different elements of the screen can give us a little more understanding of the different visual elements which are present, which can help particularly when working with sighted people. e.g. instead of remembering in Windows ok if I press Alt space that gets me into the menu where there's options to maximise/size the window, I can just explore around the screen to verify/remind myself of what's actually visually present. LIke I say, I can see pros and cons but these are some of the pros in my opinion. Catherine On 2/27/14, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Twitter: CTurner1980 My blog: http://catherineturner.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Hi, There are two things here. Firstly, you do not have to interact much of the time when people say you do, it's a case of learning the settings and the operating system just like in Windows. For instance, when I go into Mail, my VO is set to land me where the keyboard focus is so it lands me straight in the message list. Personally, I think more emphasis should be put on real world usage in these podcasts. Let me take David Woodbridge as an example. His podcasts are generally excellent and helpful, but he makes what I, personally, think are a couple of asumptions that just don't reflect the natural way to interact with a computer. Firstly, he assumes that you always start from a specific, known, position, and secondly, he only teaches VoiceOver. Unless it is absolutely unavoidable, he does not teach built in OS keystrokes and concepts. It would be comparable to teaching people using Jaws only to move word by word using the insert key method, and to do everything using the Jaws cursor rather than built in Windows keystrokes. David's methods are great for getting people doing specific tasks, but often not in the most efficient ways, and often not going deep enough or actually explaining enough. I tend to think that most Mac teachers make this mistake, I'm not picking on one person, just using the specific example as I know, use, and value David's work a lot. The concept of interaction, in my mind, is generally helpful. The idea is that VoiceOver gives you an overview of what is on the screen and the ability to get around it quickly. For instance, whereas in any Windows screen reader, if you find a toolbar (Which you will only do if you know the right keyboard commands), there is no quick way of getting past it. With VoiceOver, each control, or element, appears as just that, an element. Some elements you will generally want to deal with, which is where interaction could become an issue, but many, you want the ability to skip over, so VoiceOver is built on the idea that if you want to use it, you will interact with it. There are a couple of things you can do to seriously limit how often you have to interact. Check that your VoiceOver is set for initial position to keyboard focus, not to first element. In most apps, you will then land exactly where you want to be. Secondly, and I think this is default behaviour, make sure the setting tab key interacts is set to on. This way, whenever you use the tab key to get to a control, you will automatically be interacting with it, and you won't have to uninteract to tab or shift-tab to the previous control. Another piece of faulty advice is to never use the tab key in Mac. Rather, you need to remember that the tab key will act a little like it does in Windows, in that it will take you to the next control the app dev thinks you might want to use it to get to, While it is always advisable to learn apps using the VO keys navigation method, you may well find that, when you know what you are doing, in many cases, you will use the tab key just as much. Finally, I don't see how anyone who learns to use Quick Nav can find interaction a problem. The ability to skip around and navigate without moving your fingers at all is invaluable, and interaction becomes such an easy process. Personally, unless I am in a file list or something, if I am going to use a few navigation commands in a row, I always switch to Quick Nav. The reason I don't in file lists? I don't want to interact, so I want to use the built in, OS X keystrokes, to do things, simply arrowing up and down lists, using command-down to open and command-up to close etc. As soon as I press command-2, I am right in that list view so don't need to navigate to it, and the same is true if I use one of the keystrokes to get to specific folders. In short, I am saying what they say for every operating system: learn both your screen reader and the operating system if you want to use it at all efficiently. Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 09:45, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more
Re: An explanation of interaction required
I echo the use of the tab key and Quick Nav. I use Quick Nav a lot of the time and find it very efficient. You just need to get to learn when it's appropriate/quick and when switching it off would serve you better. A small point I would dispute is David Woodbridge starting his podcasts at a certain known point. I think this is the only way to create a podcast which is consistent and applies to as wide a range of people as possible. There are so many possible starting points otherwise: I've just started Mail and my VO cursor is set to focus on the keyboard focus; or not; or I want to start Mail with Quick Nav on or off and so on. So I guess he picks a consistent starting point to make the podcasts manageable and give people a consistent learning experience. I haven't herd enough to comment on whether too many trainers focus too much on VO commands as opposed to the OS. I do know a lot of Windows screen reader trainers do this. I would say that from reading the VO Getting Started guide it was pretty clear which were VO commands and which were OS ones so that's a good resource for anyone who learns in that way... Catherine On 2/27/14, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, There are two things here. Firstly, you do not have to interact much of the time when people say you do, it's a case of learning the settings and the operating system just like in Windows. For instance, when I go into Mail, my VO is set to land me where the keyboard focus is so it lands me straight in the message list. Personally, I think more emphasis should be put on real world usage in these podcasts. Let me take David Woodbridge as an example. His podcasts are generally excellent and helpful, but he makes what I, personally, think are a couple of asumptions that just don't reflect the natural way to interact with a computer. Firstly, he assumes that you always start from a specific, known, position, and secondly, he only teaches VoiceOver. Unless it is absolutely unavoidable, he does not teach built in OS keystrokes and concepts. It would be comparable to teaching people using Jaws only to move word by word using the insert key method, and to do everything using the Jaws cursor rather than built in Windows keystrokes. David's methods are great for getting people doing specific tasks, but often not in the most efficient ways, and often not going deep enough or actually explaining enough. I tend to think that most Mac teachers make this mistake, I'm not picking on one person, just using the specific example as I know, use, and value David's work a lot. The concept of interaction, in my mind, is generally helpful. The idea is that VoiceOver gives you an overview of what is on the screen and the ability to get around it quickly. For instance, whereas in any Windows screen reader, if you find a toolbar (Which you will only do if you know the right keyboard commands), there is no quick way of getting past it. With VoiceOver, each control, or element, appears as just that, an element. Some elements you will generally want to deal with, which is where interaction could become an issue, but many, you want the ability to skip over, so VoiceOver is built on the idea that if you want to use it, you will interact with it. There are a couple of things you can do to seriously limit how often you have to interact. Check that your VoiceOver is set for initial position to keyboard focus, not to first element. In most apps, you will then land exactly where you want to be. Secondly, and I think this is default behaviour, make sure the setting tab key interacts is set to on. This way, whenever you use the tab key to get to a control, you will automatically be interacting with it, and you won't have to uninteract to tab or shift-tab to the previous control. Another piece of faulty advice is to never use the tab key in Mac. Rather, you need to remember that the tab key will act a little like it does in Windows, in that it will take you to the next control the app dev thinks you might want to use it to get to, While it is always advisable to learn apps using the VO keys navigation method, you may well find that, when you know what you are doing, in many cases, you will use the tab key just as much. Finally, I don't see how anyone who learns to use Quick Nav can find interaction a problem. The ability to skip around and navigate without moving your fingers at all is invaluable, and interaction becomes such an easy process. Personally, unless I am in a file list or something, if I am going to use a few navigation commands in a row, I always switch to Quick Nav. The reason I don't in file lists? I don't want to interact, so I want to use the built in, OS X keystrokes, to do things, simply arrowing up and down lists, using command-down to open and command-up to close etc. As soon as I press command-2, I am right in that list view so don't need to navigate to it, and the same is true
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
teresa, thank you for sharing this. I found it to be very helpful. My only question is and it might have already been answered but say if you got a lot of messages for a thread that you didn't want to just delete yet then some new subject lines came in e.g. 5 and finally a person comments on the thread you are not wanting to delete just yet. What happens to that un-deleated thread? Does it get placed up at the top of the list of closed threads? If you could explain or answer this question then I would be really grateful because when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list and have been trying it out in conversation view, I am getting a bit confused at times and somewhat overwhelmed at where all the messages are hence my wondering if the latest ones were at the top. Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 19:26, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear embedded a lot and the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact with the content area. there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message first or vice versa. Also, if you use related messages these will show up again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you decide not to use the preview pane. Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) Hth, teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or VO-left reading each of the messages in the thread. I can press the Delete key to remove the message I'm reading and can press cmd-w to close the entire thread and again press the Delete key to remove the whole thread of messages. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 20, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Works real well. Just have mail orgnaize messages by conversation. Then, when you come across a thread of messages, you will be informed how many messages there are. To actually open the conversation, use the right arrow key alone. Now, you can move down message by message. To close the conversation, use the left arrow. Then, when you press the delete key, you take out all messages in that conversation. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:08 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, for those who use it. How do you use conversation threading on the Mac
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Hi, Well, the fact is, that there are quicker ways to do things. Rather than first going to the desktop, to get to a known place, then having to go to the apps folder, etc, from whereever you are, you can use Spotlight to open an app, and it's so easy to teach. From anywhere, command-space, type in the first few letters of the app you want and if it isn't the first thing you hear, arrow to it. I just think there could be more reality in how people would actually use a computer, whereas teaching it the long way round makes anyone that doesn't know an operating system of any flavour think it has to be that inefficient. Clearly, my way isn't radically different, but I think more variety and more use of all the different methods, including David's current methods, would be helpful. I do value all the podcasts, so don't mean to sound critical, but I think there's an over-emphasis on not using all the features when they would be helpful and just using the very basic VO commands. The result is often that people think Mac is slow, and get too hooked up on how difficult interaction is, when it really isn't. Take care Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 10:39, Catherine Turner catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote: I echo the use of the tab key and Quick Nav. I use Quick Nav a lot of the time and find it very efficient. You just need to get to learn when it's appropriate/quick and when switching it off would serve you better. A small point I would dispute is David Woodbridge starting his podcasts at a certain known point. I think this is the only way to create a podcast which is consistent and applies to as wide a range of people as possible. There are so many possible starting points otherwise: I've just started Mail and my VO cursor is set to focus on the keyboard focus; or not; or I want to start Mail with Quick Nav on or off and so on. So I guess he picks a consistent starting point to make the podcasts manageable and give people a consistent learning experience. I haven't herd enough to comment on whether too many trainers focus too much on VO commands as opposed to the OS. I do know a lot of Windows screen reader trainers do this. I would say that from reading the VO Getting Started guide it was pretty clear which were VO commands and which were OS ones so that's a good resource for anyone who learns in that way... Catherine On 2/27/14, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, There are two things here. Firstly, you do not have to interact much of the time when people say you do, it's a case of learning the settings and the operating system just like in Windows. For instance, when I go into Mail, my VO is set to land me where the keyboard focus is so it lands me straight in the message list. Personally, I think more emphasis should be put on real world usage in these podcasts. Let me take David Woodbridge as an example. His podcasts are generally excellent and helpful, but he makes what I, personally, think are a couple of asumptions that just don't reflect the natural way to interact with a computer. Firstly, he assumes that you always start from a specific, known, position, and secondly, he only teaches VoiceOver. Unless it is absolutely unavoidable, he does not teach built in OS keystrokes and concepts. It would be comparable to teaching people using Jaws only to move word by word using the insert key method, and to do everything using the Jaws cursor rather than built in Windows keystrokes. David's methods are great for getting people doing specific tasks, but often not in the most efficient ways, and often not going deep enough or actually explaining enough. I tend to think that most Mac teachers make this mistake, I'm not picking on one person, just using the specific example as I know, use, and value David's work a lot. The concept of interaction, in my mind, is generally helpful. The idea is that VoiceOver gives you an overview of what is on the screen and the ability to get around it quickly. For instance, whereas in any Windows screen reader, if you find a toolbar (Which you will only do if you know the right keyboard commands), there is no quick way of getting past it. With VoiceOver, each control, or element, appears as just that, an element. Some elements you will generally want to deal with, which is where interaction could become an issue, but many, you want the ability to skip over, so VoiceOver is built on the idea that if you want to use it, you will interact with it. There are a couple of things you can do to seriously limit how often you have to interact. Check that your VoiceOver is set for initial position to keyboard focus, not to first element. In most apps, you will then land exactly where you want to be. Secondly, and I think this is default behaviour, make sure the setting tab key interacts is set to on. This way, whenever you use the tab key to get to a control, you will
Screenshots of VoiceOver Settings
Does anyone have screenshots of VoiceOver settings? My setup is my Mac Mini, Keyboard, and mouse. I called the Apple Accessibility line yesterday. The lady who helped me was rather nice. We did find a way to make Safari sort of work. Apparently my settings are a mess. I can only use the right and left arrows to move within the pages. Nothing else works. I still have not figured out how to work with mail. What works one time does not work another. VOJ only beeps. It does not open anything. It seems like a massive game of guess work. I can never figure out how to guess whether I need to click shift, control, option up arrow, shift, control, option, down arrow, or shift, control, option, spacebar, or enter to get something to open or do what I want it to. I had several of the training guides playing in the background all day long for many many days, And still can't figure it out. What I seem to find our long blocks of text, that say Ra, Ra, you can do this, Ra, Ra you can do this, followed by a long list of undefined keyboard commands without any indication of where (or how) to use them, or what to do if they don't work. The group that I found that did contain step by step directions (for only a three partial activities) no longer work - which means some setting has been changed to no longer work with a keyboard. I still need to find step by step instructions out there somewhere. Trying six key combinations for every click isn't helpful. It would take an hour to complete five minutes of work at that speed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
I am brave enough to try this but where is the write up is tat in the archives of the list? On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: There was a write up about this. It pretty much count the times you hit enter and left and right arrows. But if you forget a step, you will get stuck. Technically to answer your question, installing Windows is not accessable. You can do Bootcamp untill you hit the Install Button. After that it is sighted required. Unless you are brave enough to follow exact directions and try it out. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Question. Is there any way to set up Bootcamp without sighted assistance? Seems to me I remember seeing something about that. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is why Apple have the App called Bootcamp. When you go to Bootcamp and start the process, it will require a usb drive to download the latest drivers. Also, keep in mind, many sighted people use Options to pick which operating system to boot from, but with Bootcamp you can go to Preferences then to Startup, and say restart in Bootcamp. Then in the Windows side, in the system try, there is a bootcamp icon there, click that and click restart in OSX. Pretty nifty. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the advice so far. I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I do want the experiences to be separate. If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the drivers found automatically for me? Traci On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:I Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five different macs at this point. If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if required. Just my two cents... Cameron. On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be done pretty well. First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience. The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So getting help is sometimes challenging. If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box. Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much. I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well. But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap. I think your copy of WindowEyes will run in the virtual machine with Windows7 but check with them to be sure. NVDA certainly will of course. be prepared for headaches though. You have to map some keys, resolve whatever conflicts arise about hardware and applications etc. I've found it to be pretty challenging at times. Reliability of help from the lists has been hit and miss too. Having said that, I'd probably do it again. On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a day dream/goal to happen before the end of the year. I'd like to have a Mac
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
Ray, I wonder if this is a similar issue I am seeing for my Focus 40? I can't seem to get it paired either. On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I’m immediately in the messages list I don’t have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
I think it's important to get the basics down first. Then, users can branch out and try shortcuts. After two months, my VoiceOver works less than it did on day one. I still have no idea how to use it to check mail, or on Safari. I kinda got it working on Calendar and Pages. At one point. What works one time doesn't work another. It would be great to find step by step instructions so I can do basic things, and not sit there listening to beeps instead of it doing what I need it to do. I listened to the list of commands hundreds of times. There are hundreds of undefined commands. It's kinds like listening to a foreign language, with no reference to the the language I speak. I have no idea what, or where a command is supposed to be used. There is no logic to the command, or the labels given to them. If I could find a text copy of these talkies, perhaps I could eventually learn how to use VoiceOver. If I don't I likely won't be using a computer in a year. It seems every setting I adjust based on something someone says breaks it further. Those of you who use it, make it sound so simple. You know the language and terms, the new user does not. Watching someone use those terms and what they accomplish would be a good thing, if I could hear the speaker. Which, I can't. It's always low toned males. Way below my hearing level. On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:48:27 AM UTC-5, David Taylor wrote: Hi, Well, the fact is, that there are quicker ways to do things. Rather than first going to the desktop, to get to a known place, then having to go to the apps folder, etc, from whereever you are, you can use Spotlight to open an app, and it's so easy to teach. From anywhere, command-space, type in the first few letters of the app you want and if it isn't the first thing you hear, arrow to it. I just think there could be more reality in how people would actually use a computer, whereas teaching it the long way round makes anyone that doesn't know an operating system of any flavour think it has to be that inefficient. Clearly, my way isn't radically different, but I think more variety and more use of all the different methods, including David's current methods, would be helpful. I do value all the podcasts, so don't mean to sound critical, but I think there's an over-emphasis on not using all the features when they would be helpful and just using the very basic VO commands. The result is often that people think Mac is slow, and get too hooked up on how difficult interaction is, when it really isn't. Take care Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 10:39, Catherine Turner catherine...@googlemail.comjavascript: wrote: I echo the use of the tab key and Quick Nav. I use Quick Nav a lot of the time and find it very efficient. You just need to get to learn when it's appropriate/quick and when switching it off would serve you better. A small point I would dispute is David Woodbridge starting his podcasts at a certain known point. I think this is the only way to create a podcast which is consistent and applies to as wide a range of people as possible. There are so many possible starting points otherwise: I've just started Mail and my VO cursor is set to focus on the keyboard focus; or not; or I want to start Mail with Quick Nav on or off and so on. So I guess he picks a consistent starting point to make the podcasts manageable and give people a consistent learning experience. I haven't herd enough to comment on whether too many trainers focus too much on VO commands as opposed to the OS. I do know a lot of Windows screen reader trainers do this. I would say that from reading the VO Getting Started guide it was pretty clear which were VO commands and which were OS ones so that's a good resource for anyone who learns in that way... Catherine On 2/27/14, David Taylor e.david...@icloud.com javascript: wrote: Hi, There are two things here. Firstly, you do not have to interact much of the time when people say you do, it's a case of learning the settings and the operating system just like in Windows. For instance, when I go into Mail, my VO is set to land me where the keyboard focus is so it lands me straight in the message list. Personally, I think more emphasis should be put on real world usage in these podcasts. Let me take David Woodbridge as an example. His podcasts are generally excellent and helpful, but he makes what I, personally, think are a couple of asumptions that just don't reflect the natural way to interact with a computer. Firstly, he assumes that you always start from a specific, known, position, and secondly, he only teaches VoiceOver. Unless it is absolutely unavoidable, he does not teach built in OS keystrokes and concepts. It would be comparable to teaching people using Jaws only to move word by word
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finger computer for OCR
David, with all due respect, you're making a lot of suppositions here. I understand that you didn't feel the device you tested worked well, but you can't extrapolate from that and say that because that device didn't, this one won't either. they're different devices, designed by different people. I remember trying to use a Mac with Outspoken back in the mid nineties. I found the experience frustrating and the Mac at that time barely usable. Obviously I would not say the same about the current Mac and Voiceover. One thing you seem to have missed, is that this device does provide haptic feedback, according to the article, to help users navigate. If that's the case, it would seem to be fairly similar to the optacon in terms of how a user would navigate with it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling it the blindness device of the future. But I'm also not going to dismiss it off-hand without ever seeing what it can actually do. I understand you feel that it holds no promise, and you're entitled to your opinion, but me, I'll wait and see. My hunch, assuming it ever gets developed, is that it will have a niche. Best, Donna On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:42 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: No, your supposition is flawed. I also had am opticon when I was younger, and I became fairly proficient with it. The optican provides direct tactile (haptic) stimulation on the finger. You use that stimulation to correct your camera placement whilst scanning the line. Even the fastest optican users had a minor amount of drift whilst reading. The OCR system does not provide immediate tactile feedback. It provides audible feedback once the buffer is full and processes. During that time, you have no idea what your camera is doing on the line. In fact, the narrower the camera from top to bottom, the worse this aspect becomes. Also, the Opticon had the ability to adjust camera magnification on the fly for adjusting to different text sizes. With this system, you do not know the size of each line of text, so you do not know how far down to drop for each line to be scanned. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:03, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Actually, David, I'd have to disagree. This may be one of those subjective things that's different for different people. But I used an Optacon as a kid, and with a little practice had no problem moving the device across the page. I think that for me, having the physical page as an anchor would be easier than just figuring out where in the air to let my iPhone hover. But again, this may be a subjective thing. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:14 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it would be much more difficult to focus than the iPhone. You need to know where each line of text starts, and you need to track each line precisely whilst keeping the text with as little skew as possible. If you think the iPhone is difficult for OCR, you would find this device virtually unusable. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, I don't think anyone would ever read War and Peace with either device, but it could provide an interesting alternative for short documents. Probably similar to Prismo and Text Grabber, but it seems it might be easier to focus once you got the hang of it. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Donna, I've personally been intrigued by the Ectaco C-Pen 3.5 for over a year now. I haven't bought the thing because my business started to impload last year around my personal problems and there was never enough resources to expense the $150 unit. The reviews on it are extremely mixed and I have not been able to reach the company to set up an evaluation but the promo material looks pretty awsome. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-02-25, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, First, forgive the cross-post and the OT post., but as I know reading is a subject that occupies much space on both lists, it seemed appropriate to post to both. Below is a link I received to an article about a new product under development. It's a device that you wear on your finger, and then scan across a line of text to hear it read out loud. It obviously has a ways to go before it would be practical to use, but wow, what cool possibilities it could open up, if the OCR capability is decent.
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
Let me guess. When you go to enter the special code on the keyboard, Voice OVer tells you that the code is 12345678 right? Is this still happening with 10.9.2? IF so, Damn! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, I wonder if this is a similar issue I am seeing for my Focus 40? I can't seem to get it paired either. On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: google video hangouts
Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Running Windows on Mac, on a budget
Hats off to anyone who is brave enough to do this. I know it is possable it can be done. It just I like more control of what I want to do. Chris, thanks for the write up. Who know, I may one day do that. lol. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: I am brave enough to try this but where is the write up is tat in the archives of the list? On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: There was a write up about this. It pretty much count the times you hit enter and left and right arrows. But if you forget a step, you will get stuck. Technically to answer your question, installing Windows is not accessable. You can do Bootcamp untill you hit the Install Button. After that it is sighted required. Unless you are brave enough to follow exact directions and try it out. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Question. Is there any way to set up Bootcamp without sighted assistance? Seems to me I remember seeing something about that. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is why Apple have the App called Bootcamp. When you go to Bootcamp and start the process, it will require a usb drive to download the latest drivers. Also, keep in mind, many sighted people use Options to pick which operating system to boot from, but with Bootcamp you can go to Preferences then to Startup, and say restart in Bootcamp. Then in the Windows side, in the system try, there is a bootcamp icon there, click that and click restart in OSX. Pretty nifty. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the advice so far. I don't know why I said parallels, what I really meant was Boot Camp. I do want the experiences to be separate. If I have a windows installation cd and I'm using boot camp, are the drivers found automatically for me? Traci On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:I Hi. I've had no trouble running windows seven ultimate 32 bit or 64 bit via bootcamp. It'll most likely be the best option. You're going to have an easier time using a native install as opposed to a virtual machine. And as for hardware/driver/application conflicts, I've had none to speak of with my native windows install and that is on five different macs at this point. If you can afford the new mac mini server edition, that gives you two 1tb internal hard drives, an Intel I7 quad core processor, and more ram than you'll probably need with the ability to add more later on if required. Just my two cents... Cameron. On 2/26/14, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: Well at times running windows on a mac is more a nightmare than a day dream in my experience. But once you work through all the headaches, it can be done pretty well. First, you won't be using Parallels. It's not accessible. You'll have to use VMware fusion if you want a virtual machine or of course you can use Boot Camp if you don't mind separating your Windows and Mac experience. The biggest problem with VMware fusion is that most of my sighted friends using Macs don't use it. It doesn't have nearly the ratings of Parallel and except for accessibility doesn't seem to be of interest to people I know. So getting help is sometimes challenging. If you want your experience to be particularly snappy in windows, you'll have to have at least three cores to dedicate to the Windows box. Fortunately the Mac doesn't need so much. I had mine on a Mac Air but it was pretty sluggish and crashed a lot. I finally wen to a Macbook Pro with maximum specs and it's running quite well. But that doesn't address your interest to do this on the cheap. I think
Re: google video hangouts
I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
On what device? IOS, Mac, or Android. My wife's Nexus 7 Hangout app seems to work well. but on IOS nope. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
This is on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: On what device? IOS, Mac, or Android. My wife's Nexus 7 Hangout app seems to work well. but on IOS nope. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
This is a fabulous script. Thanks for pointing out that it's back. You can check the box before setting it up or it should prompt you to check it if you get the process backward as I actually did. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Check the box. I have mine checked. If the script works with it unchecked, I'm truly stumped. :) HtH, Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: It seemed to work for me. Only question I have is this. Do I check the allow folder actions box or leave it unchecked. I focused on the downloads folder before I went in to services options. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
removing widgets from dashboard?
Hi, How do I go about removing widgets from dashboard on the mac? Thanks, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: removing widgets from dashboard?
First open the wig i bar then go to he wimanage wig its then uncheck any wig it you want to delete then choose remove. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How do I go about removing widgets from dashboard on the mac? Thanks, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: removing widgets from dashboard?
how do I uncheck them when using voiceover? Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:52 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: First open the wig i bar then go to he wimanage wig its then uncheck any wig it you want to delete then choose remove. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How do I go about removing widgets from dashboard on the mac? Thanks, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
I can't actually even get that box to come up with the code. It just refuses to pair. On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Let me guess. When you go to enter the special code on the keyboard, Voice OVer tells you that the code is 12345678 right? Is this still happening with 10.9.2? IF so, Damn! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, I wonder if this is a similar issue I am seeing for my Focus 40? I can't seem to get it paired either. On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
hi daniel; I used google's video hangout successfully last night. Wel, i got it started, one friend stopped by, i was able to know they were there thanks to a handy ring tone and then we had a nice conversation. I am calling it a success because i didn't do any advance promotion. I wanted to see if i could first. If you want to try a hangout with your iOS i would be happy to assist. my email is maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com Just send me an invite. I would love the practice. And I am one of those rare mac owners. I only have my mac book no iOS devices at all although I'm leaning towards getting one for face book twitter and nls. take care, max On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
are you using macbook or iMac or an iOS device. it was clunky but did run on my macbook pro. take care, max On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac wrote: I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
I have both a Macbook Pro and iPhone. The IOS app is not accessable last I checked. I tried Hangout on the web browser, but I seem to be stuck on the main page, can't get out of it lol. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: are you using macbook or iMac or an iOS device. it was clunky but did run on my macbook pro. take care, max On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac wrote: I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: google video hangouts
i found th start kind of grabby; i had to use command option and my arrow keys and go very slowly. take care, max On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: I have both a Macbook Pro and iPhone. The IOS app is not accessable last I checked. I tried Hangout on the web browser, but I seem to be stuck on the main page, can't get out of it lol. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: are you using macbook or iMac or an iOS device. it was clunky but did run on my macbook pro. take care, max On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 AM, isaac wrote: I have tried to use the hangouts app but every time I tried to use it the app would just crash. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: Have you successfully used Hangout on the web browser or on a Mac or IOS? I know on Android the Hangout app is accessable, but not on Apple's devices. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: anyone here ever done a google hangout video or otherwise? I know i need to promote the session better next time but i'm on a video hang out right now. I had one friend stop by and am hoping for my second before i quit at about 9 pm central. any suggestions for next time. thanks, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finger computer for OCR
Donna, I remain very skeptical for how well it will work for those with no vision for the reasons I listed. I was not the only blind person who tested the device I spoke about, and nobody with no vision was able to get it to read anything. That said, please don't confuse my skepticism with active disbelief of the product. I will be amongst the first to sign up to test, and hopefully purchase, it if it successfully makes its way through the experimentation phase and actually becomes a viable product. Unfortunately, given all the obsticles against it, I very strongly suspect 1) It will not get past all the hurdles, or 2) it will become targeted toward low-vision users who can visually locate the start of each printed line of text. Again, I hope I am wrong, but am willing to bet otherwise. I have seen and tested too many products that were very good ideas, but never made it to market, or lasted in the marketplace for only one generation (a couple months). David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28 Feb 2014, at 1:26, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: David, with all due respect, you’re making a lot of suppositions here. I understand that you didn’t feel the device you tested worked well, but you can’t extrapolate from that and say that because that device didn’t, this one won’t either. they’re different devices, designed by different people. I remember trying to use a Mac with Outspoken back in the mid nineties. I found the experience frustrating and the Mac at that time barely usable. Obviously I would not say the same about the current Mac and Voiceover. One thing you seem to have missed, is that this device does provide haptic feedback, according to the article, to help users navigate. If that’s the case, it would seem to be fairly similar to the optacon in terms of how a user would navigate with it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling it the blindness device of the future. But I’m also not going to dismiss it off-hand without ever seeing what it can actually do. I understand you feel that it holds no promise, and you’re entitled to your opinion, but me, I’ll wait and see. My hunch, assuming it ever gets developed, is that it will have a niche. Best, Donna On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:42 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: No, your supposition is flawed. I also had am opticon when I was younger, and I became fairly proficient with it. The optican provides direct tactile (haptic) stimulation on the finger. You use that stimulation to correct your camera placement whilst scanning the line. Even the fastest optican users had a minor amount of drift whilst reading. The OCR system does not provide immediate tactile feedback. It provides audible feedback once the buffer is full and processes. During that time, you have no idea what your camera is doing on the line. In fact, the narrower the camera from top to bottom, the worse this aspect becomes. Also, the Opticon had the ability to adjust camera magnification on the fly for adjusting to different text sizes. With this system, you do not know the size of each line of text, so you do not know how far down to drop for each line to be scanned. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:03, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Actually, David, I’d have to disagree. This may be one of those subjective things that’s different for different people. But I used an Optacon as a kid, and with a little practice had no problem moving the device across the page. I think that for me, having the physical page as an anchor would be easier than just figuring out where in the air to let my iPhone hover. But again, this may be a subjective thing. Cheers, Donna On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:14 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it would be much more difficult to focus than the iPhone. You need to know where each line of text starts, and you need to track each line precisely whilst keeping the text with as little skew as possible. If you think the iPhone is difficult for OCR, you would find this device virtually unusable. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26 Feb 2014, at 12:09, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi Erik, I don’t think anyone would ever read War and Peace with either device, but it could provide an interesting alternative for short documents. Probably similar to Prismo and Text Grabber, but it seems it might be easier to focus once you got the hang of it. Cheers, Donna On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Donna, I've personally been intrigued by the Ectaco C-Pen 3.5 for over a year now. I haven't bought the
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Can't explain but I interact with toolbars, tables and lists as well as HTML content controls. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 09:45, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
Hey all, not sure if this is the same issue, but my Logitech k760 keyboard will pair and last about ten minutes but that's it, and no it's no a battery issue as occasionally I can get it repair but then it once again loses connectivity and this is happening in 10.9.2 so I am guessing no it has not been fixed. Going to call Apple now to see what they have to say. On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: I can't actually even get that box to come up with the code. It just refuses to pair. On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Let me guess. When you go to enter the special code on the keyboard, Voice OVer tells you that the code is 12345678 right? Is this still happening with 10.9.2? IF so, Damn! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Ray, I wonder if this is a similar issue I am seeing for my Focus 40? I can't seem to get it paired either. On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: How does conversation threading work on the Mac?
Hi, Daniel, Where the messages are in the conversation depends on a setting in Mail preferences, View tab. There is a checkbox that says show most recent message at the top. You can set that according to your preference. If you are either arrowing down or interacting with the content of individual messages, only that message will be deleted when you press the delete key. If you're focused on the entire thread, where it indicates the number of messages in a conversation and you press delete, the entire conversation is deleted. I'm not entirely sure about the chronological order of messages. I believe they are sorted according to the newest one in the thread. If you delete some of the messages in a conversation, only the new ones will be included in the message count for the conversation. One interesting property of message threads is to go into your trash folder. There you will see things like 100-message conversations, as they are still sorted in the trash. Hth, teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: teresa, thank you for sharing this. I found it to be very helpful. My only question is and it might have already been answered but say if you got a lot of messages for a thread that you didn't want to just delete yet then some new subject lines came in e.g. 5 and finally a person comments on the thread you are not wanting to delete just yet. What happens to that un-deleated thread? Does it get placed up at the top of the list of closed threads? If you could explain or answer this question then I would be really grateful because when I get a lot of messages e.g. from this list and have been trying it out in conversation view, I am getting a bit confused at times and somewhat overwhelmed at where all the messages are hence my wondering if the latest ones were at the top. Thanks Daniel On 26 Feb 2014, at 19:26, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: There are several ways to go about it. When you're focused on a conversation in the message list, you can press VO-backslash or right-arrow to open it. I consider the arrow method to be less reliable, though. Then you can down-arrow through the messages in that conversation. You can also press VO-J when on a conversation in the message list. This will take you to the text of the first message. The only problem with that method for me is that in order to go to another message body, you have to stop interacting with that message text, then VO right. I use this method myself: I find a conversation in the list, stop interacting with the message column, then VO right to the content area. You can VO-left- and right-arrow through the conversation. The only problem a lot of people have with this is that you hear embedded a lot and the sender and subject of the message when you do this. This doesn't really bother me. Opening the conversation with vO-backslash is the other method I use, because I havd set my preview to five lines, and I can hear enough of the message that way to find out whether I want to hear more when I interact with the content area. there are a couple of settings to check. First, in the viewing tab of Mail preferences, set it up the way you want, whether you want the last message first or vice versa. Also, if you use related messages these will show up again in your mailbox and be included in your message count. Otherwise, the message count in the conversation doesn't include past messages. A very important thing to keep in mind when using the new view is that the messages will be marked as read once you've focused on them, unless you decide not to use the preview pane. Sorry about the long-winded post, but it's a wee bit complicated. :) Hth, teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey all, I am trying to finally learn using the newer mail layout in other words not classic view. Two questions . One when viewing a thread if you come across a message in the thread that you don't want to delete is there a way to jump to th next message in the thread? I often delete the messages I have read but like to save the messages I might want to reference later. also when you delete messages and a new message comes in to that thread do the messages you have already deleted reappear in the thread count or since you deleted them the response is just treated as a new individual message. Thanks, On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For me, when coming upon a conversation, I press return on it, which opens the entire conversation and the first message in the conversation will start being read by VO. I Stop Interacting with the message, then I can go VO-right or
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
I use Type2Phone a Mac application that simulates a bluetooth keyboard that can be used with iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. I have never been asked for a pairing code. This is a paid app and is fully VoiceOver compliant. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 08:35, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
But, we are not talking about a simulation. We are talking here about actually pairing a bluetooth keyboard with the Mac. When you do that, you are asked for a pairing code. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I use Type2Phone a Mac application that simulates a bluetooth keyboard that can be used with iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. I have never been asked for a pairing code. This is a paid app and is fully VoiceOver compliant. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 08:35, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: removing widgets from dashboard?
That message was a little garbled. I've looked it up and don't see an accessible way to get to the widget manager. teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:52 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: First open the wig i bar then go to he wimanage wig its then uncheck any wig it you want to delete then choose remove. On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How do I go about removing widgets from dashboard on the mac? Thanks, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Interacting is like zooming in on something. If you want greater detail, you move closer to the object and examine it. This is what interaction is. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Can't explain but I interact with toolbars, tables and lists as well as HTML content controls. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 09:45, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
Yes, this is a great explanation. It also allows you to see specific parts of an interface or screen. So, instead of being overwhelmed by everything all at once, the screen is segregated so that you can interact to view specific areas and, thus, limit confusion. Scroll areas, Tables, browsers, Groups, Sliders, Toolbars and Grids are the elements that require interaction. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Interacting is like zooming in on something. If you want greater detail, you move closer to the object and examine it. This is what interaction is. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Can't explain but I interact with toolbars, tables and lists as well as HTML content controls. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 09:45, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Hi all Got it set up now, didn't realize you had to select the folder first. Thanks for all the help in this matter. Much appreciated. On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't work when Mavericks first came out. Now it does. :) Teresa -- You received this message
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog opens up and you can select the script you want to run when a particular action is done to a folder. I always liked being notified when a new item was placed in my downloads folder. Unfortunately, the script didn't
VO and Dashboard widget manager
Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that the folder actions script for notifying when a new item is downloaded now works properly. This is a wonderful little utility that Finder has. Basically, you find the folder you want, go to the finder menu, and choose services submenu, then folder actions setup. A dialog
Re: the bluetooth pairing issue
Right I understand now. Just thought I would bring this Type2Phone up in case it was related. On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:57, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: But, we are not talking about a simulation. We are talking here about actually pairing a bluetooth keyboard with the Mac. When you do that, you are asked for a pairing code. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I use Type2Phone a Mac application that simulates a bluetooth keyboard that can be used with iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. I have never been asked for a pairing code. This is a paid app and is fully VoiceOver compliant. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 08:35, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Does anybody here know whether or not the bluetooth keyboard pairing issue which many of us saw in Mavricks has been fixed in 10.9.2? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Accessibilit of Cobooks
I was listening to a PodCast on doing Contacts on the Mac and iPhone. The hosts kept talking about a program called CoBooks. How weel does VoiceOver Work with CoBooks? Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast
Hello, Ok so we were finally able to figure out how to get both of those programs installed and got the caps lock key working for us as the insert key. However, the podcast didn't mention exactly how to make the numpad happen and when I try what it said on the page for using a numpad by hitting the fn key and I for numpad 5 it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone actually figured this part out and can tell us what we're doing wrong? I know we had to do things differently than the podcast mentioned for remapping the voiceover keys to the caps lock since we didn't end up having to go to system preferences but not sure why we can't get the numpad part to work. Any help would be appreciated so that we can possibly be able to do things like jaws cursor, pc cursor, rooting of the cursors, left and right clicks on files, etc. Take care, Shannon Gerdts -Original Message- From: Deb Lewis Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast I did this last week. The KeyRing app is at the link you visited. I believe there's a link called Other apps or something to that effect and you'll find the PC Keyboard hack there. It's not on the same page as it was when the podcast was developed and I had to look around for it. After you have them, the podcast is very descriptive about what to do. The hardest part was finding that second app but after that the instructions will all work as advertised. Oh, there was one other difference. If you're running Mavricks, you are instructed to go to apple preferences and make some changes. The newly installed apps didn't appear in my apple preferences, but opening each of them revealed the same options he was describing and everything worked as advertised. I don't want to go through the tutorial again, he did a great job, but after you find them, if there's something specific, I'm sure we can help. As I said, finding that second app isn't quite where he said now, but it's still up there and you need them both for this to work. On 2/24/14, Shannon Gerdts bambam...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, So my wife and I are looking at this one podcast which I will provide the link to which is reguarding remapping the voiceover keys to the caps lock key as well as creating a numpad around the I key etc. We're wanting to see if we can do this so that her vm fusion experience is possibly a little better being that she doesn't have a full keyboard to use therefore not being able to use things like the jaws cursor or mouse clicks with jaws.The podcast we're looking at is the following: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience On here it mentions to go to pqrs.org's website and download two apps called keyRemap4MacBook and PcKeyboardHack. However the link it provides to do this doesn't seem to exist and when we go just to pqrs.org we can only seemingly find the first app. Also, when we go to that link the installation instructions are pretty confusing so hoping someone can give us some advice on how to better understand what we need to do. Thanks again for any help on this matter as usual. Also, if anyone has experience running vm fusion on their mac and has success please feel free and send me some e-mails directly maybe offlist as it seems as if we have some random issues that we're not quite sure how to resolve at the moment. Take care, Shannon Gerdts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Looking for two applications
Hello everyone. I am looking for a radio application and a Youtube to MP3 converter application. Any ideas? This is for my macbook Pro 2012 model running Os X 10.9.2. In case this is relevant I live in the UK. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: An explanation of interaction required
John, Having used Windows for many years, some of the terms used on OS X do not quite click. Could you briefly explain the following? Just to get a better picture of the elements. Thanks. Scroll areas, Tables, Groups, and Grids. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/27/2014 11:48 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, this is a great explanation. It also allows you to see specific parts of an interface or screen. So, instead of being overwhelmed by everything all at once, the screen is segregated so that you can interact to view specific areas and, thus, limit confusion. Scroll areas, Tables, browsers, Groups, Sliders, Toolbars and Grids are the elements that require interaction. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Interacting is like zooming in on something. If you want greater detail, you move closer to the object and examine it. This is what interaction is. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Can't explain but I interact with toolbars, tables and lists as well as HTML content controls. Regards Chris On 27/02/2014 09:45, Lee Jones wrote: Dear List I wondered if some kind soul could explain the concept of interaction on the mac. On podcasts you get taught how to use it but not what the underlying premise is behind it. What are the benefits of setting up a screen reader this way. I find interaction an irritation. On windows in outlook I'm immediately in the messages list I don't have to interact with the list first. To me it just feels like interaction is always another keystroke between me and where I want to get to. Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
My Number 1 IPhone App
It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
OSX 10.9.2 Mail fixes article
Found this little summary from the fine folks at TidBITS: Mail Improvements in OSX 10.9.2 http://tidbits.com/article/14547 CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My Number 1 IPhone App
Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real luck. Thanks for any help. Max On 26 Feb 2014, at 1:10 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to report that
Re: My Number 1 IPhone App
It does cost but I find it to be worth it. When you think of what it provides, the value is there for everyone. KDM On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
Sorry for the slip. You can read PDFs in textEdit but to fill them in you need PDFPen. Have you given that a try? You can download a free trial here: http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/index.html but if you like it they want $60. CB On 2/26/14 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Can you make a formal what you have printed it to PDF as I had problems filling out a form yesterday. I had to email it to my work address and do it on Windows. On 26 Feb 2014, at 06:23 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with textEdit say that the stuff I filled out wouldn't print. Not sure why that was but I cheated and re-printed it to a PDF on my end and that seemed to fix it. To do that, even if you don't have a printer set up on the Mac, you just hit command-P. This will pop a print dialog with various printer options including picking a printer. Mine said No Printer Selected. Anyway, ignore most of what's in that dialog and just after the help button you'll find a PDF Menu button and if you drop that down you'll find Save As PDF as the second option. In general, you can use this to make a PDF of most document and web pages. Might not always be super accessible since it's just redirecting printer output. That sometimes puts parts of the page out of order and other common problems, but it can be handy. CB On 2/26/14 1:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the formatting? thanks, teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Focus 14 with my Mac
Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
What happens when you try to pair it? Try both the bluetooth setup and the Braille item in VO Utility. The pin is . I should say that's what it is for my focus 40 blue. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Which part of it is dimmed? the Folder actions setup item itself? If so, I have no idea how to advise you. Sorry about that. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:13 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where
Re: PDF documents and filling in PDF forms.
Thank you very much. I will download this and give it a try. On 27 Feb 2014, at 09:20 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Sorry for the slip. You can read PDFs in textEdit but to fill them in you need PDFPen. Have you given that a try? You can download a free trial here: http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/index.html but if you like it they want $60. CB On 2/26/14 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Can you make a formal what you have printed it to PDF as I had problems filling out a form yesterday. I had to email it to my work address and do it on Windows. On 26 Feb 2014, at 06:23 pm, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with textEdit say that the stuff I filled out wouldn't print. Not sure why that was but I cheated and re-printed it to a PDF on my end and that seemed to fix it. To do that, even if you don't have a printer set up on the Mac, you just hit command-P. This will pop a print dialog with various printer options including picking a printer. Mine said No Printer Selected. Anyway, ignore most of what's in that dialog and just after the help button you'll find a PDF Menu button and if you drop that down you'll find Save As PDF as the second option. In general, you can use this to make a PDF of most document and web pages. Might not always be super accessible since it's just redirecting printer output. That sometimes puts parts of the page out of order and other common problems, but it can be handy. CB On 2/26/14 1:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the formatting? thanks, teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
I connected my focus 40 the other day to my Mac. At first, it was a problem. However, I did then restart voice over and it was okay. On 27 Feb 2014, at 09:21 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
TIme for a disk repair me thinks. All is working well here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:13, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts then input sauces. Looking at each of these it is not apparent where to add a script. Can anybody walk me through how to do this? I have been trying Google for quite some time this morning with no real
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
Are you setting it up from the VoiceOver Utility from the Braille category? THis is just a guess here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:21, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
USB Keyboard Not Working well on Login Screen Since Most recent oS Update
Hi, all, I've noticed that on the login screen, I can't navigate to interact and find the username field, etc. Once I use the Magic Trackpad, I can type in the password field just fine. Would there be a way to troubleshoot this that anyone knows of? thanks, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OSX 10.9.2 Mail fixes article
I cannot access it because you must login I do not have an account. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Found this little summary from the fine folks at TidBITS: Mail Improvements in OSX 10.9.2 http://tidbits.com/article/14547 CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screenshots of VoiceOver Settings
if you want you can reset your voice over preferences by going to the voice over utilities then press command M, then go to file, then reset voice over all voice over preferences, . regards! On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:50 pm, April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have screenshots of VoiceOver settings? My setup is my Mac Mini, Keyboard, and mouse. I called the Apple Accessibility line yesterday. The lady who helped me was rather nice. We did find a way to make Safari sort of work. Apparently my settings are a mess. I can only use the right and left arrows to move within the pages. Nothing else works. I still have not figured out how to work with mail. What works one time does not work another. VOJ only beeps. It does not open anything. It seems like a massive game of guess work. I can never figure out how to guess whether I need to click shift, control, option up arrow, shift, control, option, down arrow, or shift, control, option, spacebar, or enter to get something to open or do what I want it to. I had several of the training guides playing in the background all day long for many many days, And still can't figure it out. What I seem to find our long blocks of text, that say Ra, Ra, you can do this, Ra, Ra you can do this, followed by a long list of undefined keyboard commands without any indication of where (or how) to use them, or what to do if they don't work. The group that I found that did contain step by step directions (for only a three partial activities) no longer work - which means some setting has been changed to no longer work with a keyboard. I still need to find step by step instructions out there somewhere. Trying six key combinations for every click isn't helpful. It would take an hour to complete five minutes of work at that speed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OSX 10.9.2 Mail fixes article
It doesn’t require a login. The article is pretty far down on the page. Try using the Safari reader (command-shift-r) for better access, then escape when you’re done reading. Teresa “The golden age of science fiction is twelve.”—Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot access it because you must login I do not have an account. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Found this little summary from the fine folks at TidBITS: Mail Improvements in OSX 10.9.2 http://tidbits.com/article/14547 CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OSX 10.9.2 Mail fixes article
that’s what I did. When ever the reader can be present on a webpage be it Mac or the iphone. I always make use of that feature and in one word its just “fantastic!” It works every time. :) Daniel On 27 Feb 2014, at 22:04, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It doesn’t require a login. The article is pretty far down on the page. Try using the Safari reader (command-shift-r) for better access, then escape when you’re done reading. Teresa “The golden age of science fiction is twelve.”—Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot access it because you must login I do not have an account. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Found this little summary from the fine folks at TidBITS: Mail Improvements in OSX 10.9.2 http://tidbits.com/article/14547 CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Nope. Done disk repair, set the same thing up in another folder, but when I go in my downloads folder, it says no services apply! On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:39, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: TIme for a disk repair me thinks. All is working well here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:13, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once you've enabled it. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to carry out your instructions to hear when a file is downloaded to my downloads folder. In Finder I go to the downloads folder to services it says no services. Then I go down and it says services preferences Here I find some tabs keyboard, text, shortcuts
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
I'm coming in late, but did you try pressing VO-shift-m on the downloads folder? Under services, you should find it there. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:14 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Nope. Done disk repair, set the same thing up in another folder, but when I go in my downloads folder, it says no services apply! On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:39, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: TIme for a disk repair me thinks. All is working well here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:13, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did this from the desktop, but it doesn't matter which folder. There will be a checkbox that says enable folder actions. Close this window with command-w. Find the downloads folder again and try going to folder actions setup. You should be able to find the scripts and actions once
Re: Folder Action New Item Alert Now Works In Latest Mavericks Update
Yes, thanks. That method fixed it and it works beautifully. So, in the normal menu, services is dimmed, but from the context menu it works, weird, but solved and so useful. thanks Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 22:28, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm coming in late, but did you try pressing VO-shift-m on the downloads folder? Under services, you should find it there. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:14 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: Nope. Done disk repair, set the same thing up in another folder, but when I go in my downloads folder, it says no services apply! On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:39, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: TIme for a disk repair me thinks. All is working well here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:13, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: But, what I am trying to say is, that, from my downloads folder, this is still dimmed, even though I'd allowed folder actions from the same place on my desktop and even quit and restarted finder! On 27 Feb 2014, at 19:57, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's in the finder menu, services, then folder action setup. Hth, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:51 AM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote: So, I've been in Folder Actions setup, checked enable folder actions, but then when I go back to my downloads folder, there's no way I can get back to Folder Actions Setup to add the action. I've even restarted finder Cheers Dave On 27 Feb 2014, at 18:44, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's actually not in the services preferences dialog. It's in the services menu, but in a dialog called folder actions setup. You might try doing a VO-f2 twice quickly to see if you can choose the dialog window from the window list. I've never had to do this, but it's worth a try. Hth, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried it while focusing on the desktop and on my downloads folder. Maybe a disk repair. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Are you first focusing on the folder to whitch you wish the script to take effect? IF you are, don't know what to suggest exept maybe to run a disk repair and restart. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have, is, I can't do that, because when I attempt to open the dialog box in services, it simply doesn't open. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Choose the script you want to apply. You will not see the check box until you make a choice. I'd focus on the folder to which you want to have this apply first though. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this slow person would like a refresher. Where is the check box to be found that must be checked in order to enable folder actions? Is it in service preferences? When I go to services preferences, I see a table of keyboard short cut categories. I don't see how that relates to folder actions. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yep, it's one of my favorite features in Mac Os X. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, thanks it now works. I suggest that if you are not sure if this works. try and download a file. I did and was surprised to find a notice that I had downloaded a file. I thought that I did not get it correct. Thanks all. Max On 27 Feb 2014, at 11:35 am, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Try going into finder, Finder menu, services, Folder Actions. I did
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast
Change the keyboard layout in JAWS to lap top. Then you won't need the numpad keys. I don't think there's really a practical way to get them working. In the lap top layout there are alternatives for all of those key combinations and they will work with the remapped caps lock key. On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Shannon Gerdts bambam...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Ok so we were finally able to figure out how to get both of those programs installed and got the caps lock key working for us as the insert key. However, the podcast didn't mention exactly how to make the numpad happen and when I try what it said on the page for using a numpad by hitting the fn key and I for numpad 5 it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone actually figured this part out and can tell us what we're doing wrong? I know we had to do things differently than the podcast mentioned for remapping the voiceover keys to the caps lock since we didn't end up having to go to system preferences but not sure why we can't get the numpad part to work. Any help would be appreciated so that we can possibly be able to do things like jaws cursor, pc cursor, rooting of the cursors, left and right clicks on files, etc. Take care, Shannon Gerdts -Original Message- From: Deb Lewis Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: trying to install some apps mentioned from a podcast I did this last week. The KeyRing app is at the link you visited. I believe there's a link called Other apps or something to that effect and you'll find the PC Keyboard hack there. It's not on the same page as it was when the podcast was developed and I had to look around for it. After you have them, the podcast is very descriptive about what to do. The hardest part was finding that second app but after that the instructions will all work as advertised. Oh, there was one other difference. If you're running Mavricks, you are instructed to go to apple preferences and make some changes. The newly installed apps didn't appear in my apple preferences, but opening each of them revealed the same options he was describing and everything worked as advertised. I don't want to go through the tutorial again, he did a great job, but after you find them, if there's something specific, I'm sure we can help. As I said, finding that second app isn't quite where he said now, but it's still up there and you need them both for this to work. On 2/24/14, Shannon Gerdts bambam...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, So my wife and I are looking at this one podcast which I will provide the link to which is reguarding remapping the voiceover keys to the caps lock key as well as creating a numpad around the I key etc. We're wanting to see if we can do this so that her vm fusion experience is possibly a little better being that she doesn't have a full keyboard to use therefore not being able to use things like the jaws cursor or mouse clicks with jaws.The podcast we're looking at is the following: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience On here it mentions to go to pqrs.org's website and download two apps called keyRemap4MacBook and PcKeyboardHack. However the link it provides to do this doesn't seem to exist and when we go just to pqrs.org we can only seemingly find the first app. Also, when we go to that link the installation instructions are pretty confusing so hoping someone can give us some advice on how to better understand what we need to do. Thanks again for any help on this matter as usual. Also, if anyone has experience running vm fusion on their mac and has success please feel free and send me some e-mails directly maybe offlist as it seems as if we have some random issues that we're not quite sure how to resolve at the moment. Take care, Shannon Gerdts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
Hi there Yes, I went to the voice over utility for this. I got mine through Crystal vision, and we called freedom scientific, and guess what! They tell me to call that wonderful 877 number that Apple has these days. So I get to go at it again. Our computers just wonderful at times? However, I think in this case it's the braille display specifically the driver. Gigi On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Are you setting it up from the VoiceOver Utility from the Braille category? THis is just a guess here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:21, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
Hey I don't think it is the focus I think Apple screwed something up big time in Mavericks with bluetooth as my old Logitech keyboard which worked fine in Mountain Lion does not work in Mavericks and after researching it have discovered that several several people are having bluetooth issues in Mavericks. Not sure what has happened to Apple, but considering all the bugs Mavericks was released with maybe it wasn't ready for public release. Quite frustrating as I now spend half my time dealing with computer issues. Hope you find a solution. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Yes, I went to the voice over utility for this. I got mine through Crystal vision, and we called freedom scientific, and guess what! They tell me to call that wonderful 877 number that Apple has these days. So I get to go at it again. Our computers just wonderful at times? However, I think in this case it's the braille display specifically the driver. Gigi On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Are you setting it up from the VoiceOver Utility from the Braille category? THis is just a guess here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:21, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window chooser. What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac? Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Did you go into dashboard first with f12? That is the point where you hit VO-f2 twice quickly. widgets are like mini-applets for various applications on the Mac. You can pop in and out to accomplish a task without having to open the full app. I even have a little Braille translation of free text widget that was installed with Louis for Braille transcription. with the calculator you can enter the numbers on the keyboard. You can set a world clock, as well. they're very handy, and I wish they were as accessible as they used to be. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window chooser. What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac? Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
To close the widget, I think it's something with an escape. But I can't figure out what it is. If you like I can send a link to this list that has commands. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
That works under Mavericks?I think when trying to install it, I got something about it not being safe. Is this true? I've been looking for translation software for the Mac for about a month now. For now, I'm just using text edit with the Apple braille fond. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Did you go into dashboard first with f12? That is the point where you hit VO-f2 twice quickly. widgets are like mini-applets for various applications on the Mac. You can pop in and out to accomplish a task without having to open the full app. I even have a little Braille translation of free text widget that was installed with Louis for Braille transcription. with the calculator you can enter the numbers on the keyboard. You can set a world clock, as well. they're very handy, and I wish they were as accessible as they used to be. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window chooser. What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac? Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Hmm interesting. I gotta play around with Dashboard. Did you get OBT2 working on Libre? Libre works fine for me but I can't seem to get the extention to install. Something you have to do to Java. If anyone have a current info how a VO user interact with dashboard, I would very much be interested. Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: That works under Mavericks?I think when trying to install it, I got something about it not being safe. Is this true? I've been looking for translation software for the Mac for about a month now. For now, I'm just using text edit with the Apple braille fond. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Did you go into dashboard first with f12? That is the point where you hit VO-f2 twice quickly. widgets are like mini-applets for various applications on the Mac. You can pop in and out to accomplish a task without having to open the full app. I even have a little Braille translation of free text widget that was installed with Louis for Braille transcription. with the calculator you can enter the numbers on the keyboard. You can set a world clock, as well. they're very handy, and I wish they were as accessible as they used to be. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried the widget using VO F2 twice, and that brought up window chooser. What advantage does a VO user using a widget on a Mac? Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
If you could send a link or the commands to the list, that would be great. I'm sure it would be helpful to a lot of folks. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: To close the widget, I think it's something with an escape. But I can't figure out what it is. If you like I can send a link to this list that has commands. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
Ok! Closing a widget is command-vO-escape, enter for yes, escape for no. Yay. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: To close the widget, I think it's something with an escape. But I can't figure out what it is. If you like I can send a link to this list that has commands. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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I wish they didn't charge for it either, I love the fact that it tells you what's in a photo, but can use camfind for identifying packages and the like, so don't use it much anymore, so have only payed for 1 month's subscription, which I used 1 time, and had no idea had run out until this afternoon, so am now frustrated that I wasted that much money for it. On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: It does cost but I find it to be worth it. When you think of what it provides, the value is there for everyone. KDM On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
I found the following. It looks like a nice VO command resource in general, as well: http://www-irma.u-strasbg.fr/~coornaer/Mathematics-in-the-dark/voiceover10.9/dashboard.html You can apparently get rid of widgets manually in finder. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Ok! Closing a widget is command-vO-escape, enter for yes, escape for no. Yay. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: To close the widget, I think it's something with an escape. But I can't figure out what it is. If you like I can send a link to this list that has commands. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Re: yahoo groups question
I believe it is group name-subscr...@yahoogroups.com On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:23 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All: I want to subscribe to a yahoo group. In the past you could send a blank email message to something subscribe @ yahoo groups.com. You would insert the name of the group in the email address. Since it has been so long since I had to do this I can't remember the exact syntax. If someone could give me the correct way to do this I would be most appreciative. Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My Number 1 IPhone App
Since its handled by rwal live humans, its worth the cost. Too many oeople were using taptapsee for entertainment. Unless its changed, one can get 100 photos for 7.99 ulimited, meaning its good until you have used the 100. No time limit. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Living Dead Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/27/2014 5:49 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: I wish they didn't charge for it either, I love the fact that it tells you what's in a photo, but can use camfind for identifying packages and the like, so don't use it much anymore, so have only payed for 1 month's subscription, which I used 1 time, and had no idea had run out until this afternoon, so am now frustrated that I wasted that much money for it. On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: It does cost but I find it to be worth it. When you think of what it provides, the value is there for everyone. KDM On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
This is the same problem I am having. On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
That's what it is for all Focus braille displays. How exactly step by step did you set yours up maybe if we follow your step by step instructions we can get our Focus braille displays connected. On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: What happens when you try to pair it? Try both the bluetooth setup and the Braille item in VO Utility. The pin is . I should say that's what it is for my focus 40 blue. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Focus 14 with my Mac
Yep sure am. On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Apple Boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Are you setting it up from the VoiceOver Utility from the Braille category? THis is just a guess here. On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:21, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys I just bought a Focus 14 bluetooth display. Although I seem to have some funny things happening right now in mail, I am pretty sure I will just need to restart my Mac to resolve them. However, I seem to be having no luck at all connecting this display with Bluetooth. Shouldn't recognize my display, or my doing something wrong? No surprise, the manual is not much help here because it talks about jaws and out the Mac at all. Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: My Number 1 IPhone App
You can get 50 for 4.99, it is a very reasonable service, and they are a business. On 2/27/2014 7:09 PM, Robert C wrote: Since its handled by rwal live humans, its worth the cost. Too many oeople were using taptapsee for entertainment. Unless its changed, one can get 100 photos for 7.99 ulimited, meaning its good until you have used the 100. No time limit. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Living Dead Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/27/2014 5:49 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: I wish they didn't charge for it either, I love the fact that it tells you what's in a photo, but can use camfind for identifying packages and the like, so don't use it much anymore, so have only payed for 1 month's subscription, which I used 1 time, and had no idea had run out until this afternoon, so am now frustrated that I wasted that much money for it. On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: It does cost but I find it to be worth it. When you think of what it provides, the value is there for everyone. KDM On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO and Dashboard widget manager
What dashboard manager are you talking about? I've never seen anything like that. I just had a sighted friend look on his mac at dashboard using 10.9 and he said the only thing on the screen were the widgets and a plus or minus to add or delete them. Just curious. Jim On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Ok! Closing a widget is command-vO-escape, enter for yes, escape for no. Yay. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: To close the widget, I think it's something with an escape. But I can't figure out what it is. If you like I can send a link to this list that has commands. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Yes, I just listened to an AppleVis podcast on an earlier version of dashboard, and you could actually use command-VO-f2 to close a widget. No more. there was also a widgets menu in the widgets bar that would allow you to access the widget manager. Not the case anymore. Darn. No, I'm curious, but I know when to stop. LOL Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa, In Mountain Lion the Widgets Manager didn't work with VO. You could add widgets but couldn't delete them or edit the order. Good luck playing with it, and hopefully you won't end up banging your head up against the wall like I did. On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Oh, you can look at your current widgets by pressing VO-f2 twice quickly, and you can add an already-installed widget by right-arrowong into the widget bar and pressing enter on it. The thing that's stumping me is finding the widget manager, which is supposed to be on the left side of the screen and unchecking or removing them. I may experiment with mouse keys at some point. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Teresa there is suppose to be a way to use VO F2 but the inconsistencies of it like John I just gave up on widgets as I don't think they are worth the aggravation of dealing with it all. On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:30 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to find a way. I gave up trying to figure it out. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Hi, all, I've looked this up and there are a lot of mouse-based instructions. Is there a way to get to the Widget manager with keystrokes, and is it accessible with vO? thanks, teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Re: My Number 1 IPhone App
So now we have 3 options for this service, that is good. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side a dark side, and it holds the universe together. Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/27/2014 6:43 PM, Yolanda wrote: You can get 50 for 4.99, it is a very reasonable service, and they are a business. On 2/27/2014 7:09 PM, Robert C wrote: Since its handled by rwal live humans, its worth the cost. Too many oeople were using taptapsee for entertainment. Unless its changed, one can get 100 photos for 7.99 ulimited, meaning its good until you have used the 100. No time limit. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Living Dead Robert Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/27/2014 5:49 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: I wish they didn't charge for it either, I love the fact that it tells you what's in a photo, but can use camfind for identifying packages and the like, so don't use it much anymore, so have only payed for 1 month's subscription, which I used 1 time, and had no idea had run out until this afternoon, so am now frustrated that I wasted that much money for it. On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: It does cost but I find it to be worth it. When you think of what it provides, the value is there for everyone. KDM On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad you only get a limited amount of uses before they charge you. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: It has to be TapTapSee. It just works and besides being useful, it is fun too. KDM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
another resource for dashboard commands
hi, here is another resource for dashboard commands. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast268.mp3 Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
