RE: skype nonsense

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jean,

I just noticed that your signature line states that you live in Switzerland.  
Is this correct?

If so, I'm wondering if there are some regional settings that may be causing 
problems with Skype.  For example, are you using an English language TTS such 
as Alex?  If not, try switching to Alex and set your language and region 
setting to United States and see what happens.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 2:20 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: skype nonsense

Mark and All:

I believe what you say is true but it isn’t my experience. I tried turning vo 
off and on while skype was opened and no change. Then I tried uninstalling 
skype and restarting my computer, then installing it again, still no change. 
Then I went to the web site and downloaded a fresh copy of the app and 
installed that, same thing. I can’t even go to skype preferences or settings to 
check the microphone and camera because absolutely every menu item in skype is 
dimmed out. When it opens it says skype has no windows and no matter what keys 
I press, nothing happens.

Happy for any further suggestions,

Jean




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Re: skype nonsense

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I just launched the latest Skype today for the first time under 
Mojave. No trouble of any kind. I was prompted to allow access to camera 
and microphone. Voiceover is fine.


   Check to see if there are any dialogs that may be open which 
requires action before you can actually use Skype.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/9/2019 2:20 PM, jean parker wrote:

Mark and All:

I believe what you say is true but it isn’t my experience. I tried turning vo 
off and on while skype was opened and no change. Then I tried uninstalling 
skype and restarting my computer, then installing it again, still no change. 
Then I went to the web site and downloaded a fresh copy of the app and 
installed that, same thing. I can’t even go to skype preferences or settings to 
check the microphone and camera because absolutely every menu item in skype is 
dimmed out. When it opens it says skype has no windows and no matter what keys 
I press, nothing happens.

Happy for any further suggestions,

Jean




Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
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skype nonsense

[jean parker]

Mark and All:

I believe what you say is true but it isn’t my experience. I tried turning vo 
off and on while skype was opened and no change. Then I tried uninstalling 
skype and restarting my computer, then installing it again, still no change. 
Then I went to the web site and downloaded a fresh copy of the app and 
installed that, same thing. I can’t even go to skype preferences or settings to 
check the microphone and camera because absolutely every menu item in skype is 
dimmed out. When it opens it says skype has no windows and no matter what keys 
I press, nothing happens.

Happy for any further suggestions,

Jean




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Re: Drive connected to airport extreme is invissible.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi  Tim!
As normal i would like to thank you for your excelent help.

I sometimes feel i don’t do much on this list than asking but the more onbe as 
the mor i learn.
Thanks again as it seems to work now.
/A
> 9 jan. 2019 kl. 16:06 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Instead of expanding, press cmd-o on the Extreme to "open" it. Normally, this 
> is just to the left of the Scroll area.  Stop interacting with everything, 
> then navigate around with VO until you hear the Connect As item.  VO-space on 
> this, enter the disk password and you should be connected.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 8, 2019, at 10:57, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I am a bit confused in regards to my Airport extreme and connecting a 
> harddisk to it.
> I have a drive which is formatted as mac extended jurnaled that has 2 
> partitions.
> One for files and one for backing up my mac.
> Setting things up in time machine when smoothly and its backing everything up 
> as it should.
> However when i try to use the drive or the other partition as a network 
> harddisk i can’t find it in finder.
> From what i understand I should enable file sharing within the airport 
> utility at the disks tab.
> So i open up the airport utility and interact with the network area and 
> navigate to my airport extreme and click on that. Then i press edit and get 
> all the tabs from where i select the disks tab.
> Here are my two partitions showing up and file sharing is enabled.
> There’s also a checkbox to enable it to be available via wan but i have not 
> that checked.
> Then we come to the secure harddisk with and here i have  selected to secure 
> my harddisk via a disk password.
> Then i click save and update and when the thing gets started i went into 
> finder and pressed shift cmd c to access my computer.
> I go down to network and open that.
> Here i see my airport extreme so i expand the item but here things stop 
> working.
> I don’t see my partitions at all.
> But when i open Vlc on my Android Phone i can gain access to the disks with 
> no problem.
> So i don’t get this at all.
> I can use the android phone but not my Mac to gain access to the network 
> disks.
> Very strange.
> /A
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Re: Frustrating issue with the Daniel voice, and how do I get rid of it?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

You mention that one place you are hearing Daniel is on system messages. There 
is an option in system settings under Dictation and Speech to read system 
messages. This willies the default system voice not VoiceOver voices. So this 
might be your issue. 
Two other possibilities:
1. Perhaps you have a VoiceOVer Activity for Mail 
2. If automatic language switching is on and your e-mail messages have 
lang=en/gb it is possible that VoiceOver will switch to the British English 
voice.


> On Jan 9, 2019, at 5:38 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am having a very difficult time with my Mac constantly switching from Alex, 
> my preferred English voice, to Daniel. This frequently happens with system 
> messages, but it also occurs when I am reading my mail.  When using German, 
> this problem does not arise, which is at least good.  
> 
> What I want is to have Alex speaking English for everything, when I am 
> working in the English language.  I don’t want my MacBook to constantly 
> reverting to Daniel.  What can I do?
> Is there perhaps a way to get rid of Daniel altogether?
> I am running macOS Mojave, version 10.14.2 and I have a 2016 MacBook Pro.
> 
> In my Mac preferences, under VoiceOver, my voice for English is set to Alex.
> 
> With thanks in advance for any and all assistance,
> 
> Mike 
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Re: Drive connected to airport extreme is invissible.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Instead of expanding, press cmd-o on the Extreme to "open" it. Normally, this 
is just to the left of the Scroll area.  Stop interacting with everything, then 
navigate around with VO until you hear the Connect As item.  VO-space on this, 
enter the disk password and you should be connected.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 8, 2019, at 10:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I am a bit confused in regards to my Airport extreme and connecting a harddisk 
to it.
I have a drive which is formatted as mac extended jurnaled that has 2 
partitions.
One for files and one for backing up my mac.
Setting things up in time machine when smoothly and its backing everything up 
as it should.
However when i try to use the drive or the other partition as a network 
harddisk i can’t find it in finder.
>From what i understand I should enable file sharing within the airport utility 
>at the disks tab.
So i open up the airport utility and interact with the network area and 
navigate to my airport extreme and click on that. Then i press edit and get all 
the tabs from where i select the disks tab.
Here are my two partitions showing up and file sharing is enabled.
There’s also a checkbox to enable it to be available via wan but i have not 
that checked.
Then we come to the secure harddisk with and here i have  selected to secure my 
harddisk via a disk password.
Then i click save and update and when the thing gets started i went into finder 
and pressed shift cmd c to access my computer.
I go down to network and open that.
Here i see my airport extreme so i expand the item but here things stop working.
I don’t see my partitions at all.
But when i open Vlc on my Android Phone i can gain access to the disks with no 
problem.
So i don’t get this at all.
I can use the android phone but not my Mac to gain access to the network disks.
Very strange.
/A

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Re: skype nonsense

[Jonathan Cohn]

As already mentioned, did you authorize Skype to use your Microphone and 
camera? When I first started Skype in Mohave it acted similarly until I went to 
the system dialogs that came up and authorized it to use these services.

Newer versions of Skype much like Microsoft Teams, and Slack tend to use HTML 
interfaces that are wrapped in a browser like application. The problem with 
this is that panes and scrollbars are often not as navigable as in native MacOS 
applications. And often these Applications have several panes of information. I 
expect that web spots might have with some of these issues, though it is more 
difficult to distribute VoiceOver settings to make applications work better 
than it is to distribute NVDA plugins or JAWS script files.

And while VoiceOver is scriptable mostly that is just getting current cursor 
locations and controlling speech. If you want to move the VoiceOver cursor to 
the first table in the third pane, you need to find it using UI Scripting and 
then move the mouse appropriately and then move the VO cursor to the mouse.

  
> On Jan 8, 2019, at 7:59 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
> was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
> skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 
> which opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is 
> dimmed out. I can’t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a 
> forced quit to close it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
> I haven’t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it 
> was behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
> understandable response to be sure.
> Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will 
> at least do something productive.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
> Senior Research Fellow
> Trans4m Center For Integral Development
> Geneva, Switzerland
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Re: Frustrating issue with the Daniel voice, and how do I get rid of it?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Michael,

Go to Voiceover utility with vo+f8 and choose speech category. In the scroll 
area, find the default voice and activate the edit button which allows you to 
adjust all possible features of your default voice.  If necessary, expand the 
dialog as it may be collapsed.  You can then go through all the elements 
changing them to Alex voice.  I’m not at present regularly using Mojave so I 
can’t exactly write out the steps but I hope you have enough experience by now 
to achieve what you want.
Good luck.

Andrew
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am having a very difficult time with my Mac constantly switching from Alex, 
> my preferred English voice, to Daniel. This frequently happens with system 
> messages, but it also occurs when I am reading my mail.  When using German, 
> this problem does not arise, which is at least good.  
> 
> What I want is to have Alex speaking English for everything, when I am 
> working in the English language.  I don’t want my MacBook to constantly 
> reverting to Daniel.  What can I do?
> Is there perhaps a way to get rid of Daniel altogether?
> I am running macOS Mojave, version 10.14.2 and I have a 2016 MacBook Pro.
> 
> In my Mac preferences, under VoiceOver, my voice for English is set to Alex.
> 
> With thanks in advance for any and all assistance,
> 
> Mike 
> 
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RE: skype nonsense

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Skype for Business allows you to communicate with Skype users if the account is 
configured correctly. I haven't tried it, however.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: skype nonsense

Are there any MacOS accessibility or access settings that need to be enabled 
for Skype to work with VoiceOver?

Also, to the mention of Skype For Business (SFB): I am not aware of SFB being 
at least easily usable to replace Skype, as SFB requires a corporate server and 
does not, by default usage anyway, link to regular Skype users.
Conversations can be arranged between SFB contacts and Skype contacts, but I 
think that requires a bit of special setup for each contact. Corrections 
welcome.

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 06:22:49PM -0800, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Jean,

After reading your post, I opened Skype on my Mac OS Mojave computer.  And then 
I checked to make certain I have the latest version of Skype.

I've got to tell you that I have absolutely no problems using Skype with 
VoiceOver.  In fact, just before writing this, I both made and received a call 
using Skype.  Moreover, the experience on my Mac is almost identical to that of 
iOS, which, I might add, I thoroughly enjoy.

Unlike Jason, I do not have a Microsoft 360 account.  

Have you turned VoiceOver off and then back on, again after launching Skype?

Also, in some instances, it may be necessary to grant Skype both Microphone and 
Camera privileges before it will work as expected.  

To make certain that you have granted Skype the necessary permissions, go to 
System Preferences/Security/Privacy and check the various devices.

If all else fails, then uninstall Skype, reboot the computer, and then 
reinstall it.

Let us know what happens.

Mark 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:59 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: skype nonsense

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can???t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to 
close it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven???t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it 
was behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland

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Frustrating issue with the Daniel voice, and how do I get rid of it?

[Michael Busboom]

Hello everyone,

I am having a very difficult time with my Mac constantly switching from Alex, 
my preferred English voice, to Daniel. This frequently happens with system 
messages, but it also occurs when I am reading my mail.  When using German, 
this problem does not arise, which is at least good.  

What I want is to have Alex speaking English for everything, when I am working 
in the English language.  I don’t want my MacBook to constantly reverting to 
Daniel.  What can I do?
 Is there perhaps a way to get rid of Daniel altogether?
I am running macOS Mojave, version 10.14.2 and I have a 2016 MacBook Pro.

In my Mac preferences, under VoiceOver, my voice for English is set to Alex.

With thanks in advance for any and all assistance,

Mike 

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