Re: An old apple keyboard

[Dave Carlson]

Here’s another wrinkle. I’m using a Microsoft Natural ergonometric keyboard 
with full numbpad on my Mac via a USB cable, no less. I’ve used this same 
keyboard type for the past 25 years in my job, and through retirement, on both 
my Windows PC and now with my new MacBook Pro. I have one on each computer, and 
a spare in case one gives up. It’s so much more comfortable than those flat 
keyboards with large pads.


Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician

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Re: what vnc are recommended that are opensource

[Rachel Phillips]

Hi,
in chrome type vnc,and screensharing app on  appears but get the spinning 
'wheel',
under utilites it also shows screensharing app and same issue as above 


I also tried novnc, but not gettng popup to put credeitnals

I finally got vnc on windows running from virtual box (vm) and STILL the 
same issue therefore it don't seem to be MAC vnc issue
I have teamviewer but its for work and have full license but when I go to 
another pc that has newer it won't let me connect

so vnc and teamviewer are out. remote desktop wont work because ms disabled 
it for win10 HOME edition

ugh wish there other options, trying to do windows apps for work :-( 
they don't give laptop , as we have way to connect from critx but I wanted 
to brush up on windows for work

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 1:14:46 PM UTC-4, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Have you tried just using the built-in VNC capabilities of the Mac.  If 
> you are connecting to another machine with remote access enabled, go to the 
> Finder, press cmd-k or go up to the Go menu and choose Connect to Server, 
> in the resulting window enter vnc://IP_Address or vnc://Host_Name.
>
> Later…
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Rachel Phillips  > wrote:
>
> I have tried several mac vnc viewers   (turbo, realvnc, tiger) and all 
> have issue with mix of issues:
> mouse is not in the same place (calibrated?), parts of the screen are 
> cutoff, always show the top however win10 menu bar is on right hand corner, 
> in some cases the left hand side of screen is cut off.
>
> what vnc are recommended that are opensource
>
> if similar issues were you able to resolve?
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks, found it on Amazon, $99.

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On 5/8/2020 9:42 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

This is the Canadian store, but it should redirect you, or at least give 
you enough info to see if it’s in the US store.


https://www.withings.com/ca/en/thermo

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 8, 2020, at 9:43 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  I haven't been able to keep up with this. Did anyone find a 
thermometer (not for grilling meat!)? Tim I think you said there is 
one but its not available. Correct? Is there a model name for it?


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Hi,
They are made by Withings, formerly Nokea.  I have the model named 
Body.   the Body Plus has a few extra readings that I felt 
unimportant to us, so went with the less fancy model.

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On May 8, 2020, at 2:48 AM, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:


So what make / model are the scales?
*From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 
>

*Sent:*Friday, 8 May 2020 4:10 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 


*Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
Hi,
We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected 
through WiFi, so it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I 
open the Health-Mate app the weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that 
the Health app can read from Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate 
app can write weight data to the Apple Health app, so much of the 
time I do my checking in the Apple Health app itself.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


   On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning
   mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

   Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having
   a lot of problems with it and even contacted with things and they
   had no solution. Which scale do you have? I know they have
   several. I had the body plus.

   Sent from my iPhone


   On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty
   mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> 
> wrote:


   
   Petrus,
   Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
   Or Amazon?
   I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to
   look to deep.
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   >*On Behalf Of*Petrus
   Tuerlings
   *Sent:*Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
   *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


   
   *Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
   Hi ET,
   Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was
   surprised that there was nothing available in the Apple store
   given the health situation in the world at the moment. I do
   have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, but I’m
   certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
   They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads
   out  your tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but
   that one isn’t bluetooth and I’m not sure where they got it.



   On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   

   > wrote:
 This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there
   a good accurate device that works with the iPhone for
   monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.

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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

My understanding is that fragmentation doesn’t matter on an SSD: no drive 
heads, no rotating platters, and therefore no performance degradation. Of 
course, if you still have an old-style hard drive used for purposes other than 
backup, there’s a possibility you might have an issue.

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Anders 
Holmberg 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Friday, May 8, 2020 at 14:49
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

 

Hi!

Its not needed on the Mac.

At least from what i know.

/A



8 maj 2020 kl. 19:49 skrev Ramy Moustafa :

 

Ok thanks , 

 But how can we defragment a hd on mac?

In windows, i can do that, but what about mac?

 

Ramy moustafa saber

licturer at:

faculty of musical education

music arranger and sound engineer

Sent from my iPhone




On May 8, 2020, at 6:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

 

Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something fails, it 
just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, there’s not 
really a method by which you can say that it is getting close to becoming 
damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that the drive is 
either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems somewhere on the 
disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is getting rather slow, or 
access to one or more files gives you errors.  the best, or most reliable way, 
to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy the files over to another drive. 
 As the files move over to the second drive, they are all brought back together 
and placed on the new drive in an efficient and methodical manner.  Once the 
copy is complete, you can format the first drive.  The reformat will clean 
things up nicely and will also tell you if the it has any errors.  There are 
more secure, or detailed, methods by which you can perform this wipe which 
would give you more information.  A regular erase does not actually erase the 
entire HD, but you can “zero” everything which would send the print head over 
the entire drive, thus giving a good indication of whether or not errors are 
detected.  Yes, there may be other tools out there, but I don’t believe that 
any are really necessary for the vast majority of situations.

 

Just my opinion, of course.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn

Jamf Certified Tech

Apple Teacher

(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

Fort McMurray, AB Canada



On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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Hi all:

I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to time?
AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to tell 
us the health of the HD before anything can happen?

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Re: An old apple keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

When we get one, I'll report back. This keyboard is USB and probably close to 
20 years old. It has an numeric keypad. I've never used one of those with 
VoiceOver. 

Traci 

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> On May 8, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Not sure how old you are talking about.
> I am using an Apple USB keyboard from 2006 on my 2012 mac mini running high 
> Sierra and it works fine.
> You should just connect the keyboard to your Mac and see if it works.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 8, 2020, at 13:14, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> We have rediscovered an old Apple USB keyboard. Is this something we could 
> use on a new Mac, or should we donate it? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Traci 
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Re: An old apple keyboard

[Brad Snyder]

Not sure how old you are talking about.
I am using an Apple USB keyboard from 2006 on my 2012 mac mini running high 
Sierra and it works fine.
You should just connect the keyboard to your Mac and see if it works.

- Brad -




On May 8, 2020, at 13:14, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, 

We have rediscovered an old Apple USB keyboard. Is this something we could use 
on a new Mac, or should we donate it? 

Thanks, 
Traci 

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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Thanks so much for these ideas


> On May 8, 2020, at 8:25 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The internal drive on a Mac does not need defragmented at all.  If it’s an 
> SSD, then it should never be defragmented anyway.  If it’s a spinning drive, 
> then the MacOS handles disk maintenance on its own and does any cleanup, 
> defragmentation such things overnight or first thing when the Mac is power 
> up.  For external drives, the safest thing to do is the copy to a second 
> drive method that I outlined before.  Defragging requires a third party app 
> and is a long, not particularly safe process.  Copying to the second drive 
> does the same thing, is safer, and gives a sort of backup at the same time.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok thanks , 
>>  But how can we defragment a hd on mac?
>> In windows, i can do that, but what about mac?
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 6:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something 
>>> fails, it just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, 
>>> there’s not really a method by which you can say that it is getting close 
>>> to becoming damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that 
>>> the drive is either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems 
>>> somewhere on the disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is 
>>> getting rather slow, or access to one or more files gives you errors.  the 
>>> best, or most reliable way, to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy 
>>> the files over to another drive.  As the files move over to the second 
>>> drive, they are all brought back together and placed on the new drive in an 
>>> efficient and methodical manner.  Once the copy is complete, you can format 
>>> the first drive.  The reformat will clean things up nicely and will also 
>>> tell you if the it has any errors.  There are more secure, or detailed, 
>>> methods by which you can perform this wipe which would give you more 
>>> information.  A regular erase does not actually erase the entire HD, but 
>>> you can “zero” everything which would send the print head over the entire 
>>> drive, thus giving a good indication of whether or not errors are detected. 
>>>  Yes, there may be other tools out there, but I don’t believe that any are 
>>> really necessary for the vast majority of situations.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion, of course.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
 <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to 
 time?
 AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to 
 tell us the health of the HD before anything can happen?
 
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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Its not needed on the Mac.
At least from what i know.
/A

> 8 maj 2020 kl. 19:49 skrev Ramy Moustafa :
> 
> Ok thanks , 
>  But how can we defragment a hd on mac?
> In windows, i can do that, but what about mac?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 6:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something fails, 
>> it just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, there’s 
>> not really a method by which you can say that it is getting close to 
>> becoming damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that the 
>> drive is either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems 
>> somewhere on the disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is 
>> getting rather slow, or access to one or more files gives you errors.  the 
>> best, or most reliable way, to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy 
>> the files over to another drive.  As the files move over to the second 
>> drive, they are all brought back together and placed on the new drive in an 
>> efficient and methodical manner.  Once the copy is complete, you can format 
>> the first drive.  The reformat will clean things up nicely and will also 
>> tell you if the it has any errors.  There are more secure, or detailed, 
>> methods by which you can perform this wipe which would give you more 
>> information.  A regular erase does not actually erase the entire HD, but you 
>> can “zero” everything which would send the print head over the entire drive, 
>> thus giving a good indication of whether or not errors are detected.  Yes, 
>> there may be other tools out there, but I don’t believe that any are really 
>> necessary for the vast majority of situations.
>> 
>> Just my opinion, of course.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to 
>>> time?
>>> AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to 
>>> tell us the health of the HD before anything can happen?
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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The internal drive on a Mac does not need defragmented at all.  If it’s an SSD, 
then it should never be defragmented anyway.  If it’s a spinning drive, then 
the MacOS handles disk maintenance on its own and does any cleanup, 
defragmentation such things overnight or first thing when the Mac is power up.  
For external drives, the safest thing to do is the copy to a second drive 
method that I outlined before.  Defragging requires a third party app and is a 
long, not particularly safe process.  Copying to the second drive does the same 
thing, is safer, and gives a sort of backup at the same time.

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On May 8, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Ok thanks , 
>  But how can we defragment a hd on mac?
> In windows, i can do that, but what about mac?
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 6:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something fails, 
>> it just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, there’s 
>> not really a method by which you can say that it is getting close to 
>> becoming damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that the 
>> drive is either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems 
>> somewhere on the disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is 
>> getting rather slow, or access to one or more files gives you errors.  the 
>> best, or most reliable way, to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy 
>> the files over to another drive.  As the files move over to the second 
>> drive, they are all brought back together and placed on the new drive in an 
>> efficient and methodical manner.  Once the copy is complete, you can format 
>> the first drive.  The reformat will clean things up nicely and will also 
>> tell you if the it has any errors.  There are more secure, or detailed, 
>> methods by which you can perform this wipe which would give you more 
>> information.  A regular erase does not actually erase the entire HD, but you 
>> can “zero” everything which would send the print head over the entire drive, 
>> thus giving a good indication of whether or not errors are detected.  Yes, 
>> there may be other tools out there, but I don’t believe that any are really 
>> necessary for the vast majority of situations.
>> 
>> Just my opinion, of course.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com ⁩> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to 
>>> time?
>>> AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to 
>>> tell us the health of the HD before anything can happen?
>>> 
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Re: An old apple keyboard

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Hi,

Yes, it will work.  Keeping it as a backup keyboard is not a bad idea.

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> On May 8, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> We have rediscovered an old Apple USB keyboard. Is this something we could 
> use on a new Mac, or should we donate it? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Traci 
> 
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An old apple keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, 

We have rediscovered an old Apple USB keyboard. Is this something we could use 
on a new Mac, or should we donate it? 

Thanks, 
Traci 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ok thanks , 
 But how can we defragment a hd on mac?
In windows, i can do that, but what about mac?

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 8, 2020, at 6:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something fails, 
> it just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, there’s 
> not really a method by which you can say that it is getting close to becoming 
> damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that the drive is 
> either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems somewhere on the 
> disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is getting rather slow, 
> or access to one or more files gives you errors.  the best, or most reliable 
> way, to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy the files over to another 
> drive.  As the files move over to the second drive, they are all brought back 
> together and placed on the new drive in an efficient and methodical manner.  
> Once the copy is complete, you can format the first drive.  The reformat will 
> clean things up nicely and will also tell you if the it has any errors.  
> There are more secure, or detailed, methods by which you can perform this 
> wipe which would give you more information.  A regular erase does not 
> actually erase the entire HD, but you can “zero” everything which would send 
> the print head over the entire drive, thus giving a good indication of 
> whether or not errors are detected.  Yes, there may be other tools out there, 
> but I don’t believe that any are really necessary for the vast majority of 
> situations.
> 
> Just my opinion, of course.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
>> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to 
>> time?
>> AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to 
>> tell us the health of the HD before anything can happen?
>> 
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Re: what vnc are recommended that are opensource

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Have you tried just using the built-in VNC capabilities of the Mac.  If you are 
connecting to another machine with remote access enabled, go to the Finder, 
press cmd-k or go up to the Go menu and choose Connect to Server, in the 
resulting window enter vnc://IP_Address  or vnc://Host_Name 
.

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Rachel Phillips  wrote:
> 
> I have tried several mac vnc viewers   (turbo, realvnc, tiger) and all have 
> issue with mix of issues:
> mouse is not in the same place (calibrated?), parts of the screen are cutoff, 
> always show the top however win10 menu bar is on right hand corner, in some 
> cases the left hand side of screen is cut off.
> 
> what vnc are recommended that are opensource
> 
> if similar issues were you able to resolve?
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

This is the Canadian store, but it should redirect you, or at least give you 
enough info to see if it’s in the US store.

https://www.withings.com/ca/en/thermo 

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> On May 8, 2020, at 9:43 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I haven't been able to keep up with this. Did anyone find a thermometer 
> (not for grilling meat!)? Tim I think you said there is one but its not 
> available. Correct? Is there a model name for it?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/8/2020 8:26 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> They are made by Withings, formerly Nokea.  I have the model named Body.   
>> the Body Plus has a few extra readings that I felt unimportant to us, so 
>> went with the less fancy model.
>> Later…
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 2:48 AM, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> So what make / model are the scales?
>>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> *Sent:*Friday, 8 May 2020 4:10 AM
>>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> *Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>>> Hi,
>>> We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected through 
>>> WiFi, so it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I open the 
>>> Health-Mate app the weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that the Health app 
>>> can read from Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate app can write weight 
>>> data to the Apple Health app, so much of the time I do my checking in the 
>>> Apple Health app itself.
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>>On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning
>>>mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having
>>>a lot of problems with it and even contacted with things and they
>>>had no solution. Which scale do you have? I know they have
>>>several. I had the body plus.
>>> 
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty
>>>mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>Petrus,
>>>Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
>>>Or Amazon?
>>>I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to
>>>look to deep.
>>>*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> >>>*On Behalf Of*Petrus
>>>Tuerlings
>>>*Sent:*Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
>>>*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>*Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>>>Hi ET,
>>>Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was
>>>surprised that there was nothing available in the Apple store
>>>given the health situation in the world at the moment. I do
>>>have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, but I’m
>>>certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
>>>They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads
>>>out  your tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but
>>>that one isn’t bluetooth and I’m not sure where they got it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>  This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there
>>>a good accurate device that works with the iPhone for
>>>monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.
>>> 
>>>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>>in the past. What if it were true?
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Nothing is always safe and secure.  Yes, the Mac is much less susceptible to 
malware, but no-one can say that it is perfect, nor would it be responsible to 
say that it will always be.

All that being said, I don’t use malware protection software either, and have 
no intention of doing so in the foreseeable future.  I have never had any 
malware on any of my Macs, nor those of my family.

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 8, 2020, at 9:46 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
> <⁨ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> Yesterday, I talked to my Internet Provider, they made a refresh, and make 
> some changes in the DNS, and from yesterday, til now, idid not get any bad 
> Screens, hope it will be the same.
> But this will lead me to a question for the future.
> From switching to mac, I knew that Mac does not contais virus, this is why am 
> working with no anti-virus, but i saw in the market very expensive 
> antiviruses for mac, like Kaspersky for instance,
> Must we muse internet security in our mac Machines?or at leas something for 
> mailware and spy? or mac is safe and will always be?
> Need to know.
> THanks
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:47 PM, dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Do a virus/malware scan if you have such software
>> .  Otherwise do a google with multiple results  using:
>> 
>> os10 free virus scan
>> On Thu, 7 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> 
>>> Still waiting any ideas
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ?? 
   wrote:
 
 ???so, what is the solution?
 
 
> On May 6, 2020, at 6:43 PM, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would venture a guess that clicking on the first message downloaded a 
> malware item, maybe a web tracker.
> The safari security on the mac is finding it and sending the message you 
> mention.
> 
>> On Wed, 6 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ??  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone 
>> and Mac,
>> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
>> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and 
>> it asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i 
>> found another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
>> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. 
>> what is it?
>> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
>> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
>> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
>> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
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Re: to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Most of the time, HD health is not really “testable”.  When something fails, it 
just does.  If a block or sector becomes damaged in some manner, there’s not 
really a method by which you can say that it is getting close to becoming 
damaged.  There are some signs you can note that tell you that the drive is 
either terribly fragmented, or maybe that there is problems somewhere on the 
disk.  These indicators are things like access speed is getting rather slow, or 
access to one or more files gives you errors.  the best, or most reliable way, 
to fix these errors is, in my opinion, to copy the files over to another drive. 
 As the files move over to the second drive, they are all brought back together 
and placed on the new drive in an efficient and methodical manner.  Once the 
copy is complete, you can format the first drive.  The reformat will clean 
things up nicely and will also tell you if the it has any errors.  There are 
more secure, or detailed, methods by which you can perform this wipe which 
would give you more information.  A regular erase does not actually erase the 
entire HD, but you can “zero” everything which would send the print head over 
the entire drive, thus giving a good indication of whether or not errors are 
detected.  Yes, there may be other tools out there, but I don’t believe that 
any are really necessary for the vast majority of situations.

Just my opinion, of course.

Later…


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> On May 8, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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> Hi all:
> 
> I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to 
> time?
> AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to 
> tell us the health of the HD before anything can happen?
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to know our Hard disc Health from time to time.

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Hi all:

I need to know if there is a better way to know my HD Health from time to time?
AM using the 1st aid, is it good? or i need a strong app more than that to tell 
us the health of the HD before anything can happen?

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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Hi all:

Yesterday, I talked to my Internet Provider, they made a refresh, and make some 
changes in the DNS, and from yesterday, til now, idid not get any bad Screens, 
hope it will be the same.
But this will lead me to a question for the future.
>From switching to mac, I knew that Mac does not contais virus, this is why am 
>working with no anti-virus, but i saw in the market very expensive antiviruses 
>for mac, like Kaspersky for instance,
Must we muse internet security in our mac Machines?or at leas something for 
mailware and spy? or mac is safe and will always be?
Need to know.
THanks


> On May 8, 2020, at 4:47 PM, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Do a virus/malware scan if you have such software
> .  Otherwise do a google with multiple results  using:
> 
> os10 free virus scan
> On Thu, 7 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
> 
>> Still waiting any ideas
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ?? 
>>>   wrote:
>>> 
>>> ???so, what is the solution?
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 6, 2020, at 6:43 PM, dan d.  wrote:
 
 
 I would venture a guess that clicking on the first message downloaded a 
 malware item, maybe a web tracker.
 The safari security on the mac is finding it and sending the message you 
 mention.
 
> On Wed, 6 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ??  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone 
> and Mac,
> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and 
> it asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. 
> what is it?
> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
> THnaks
> 
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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I haven't been able to keep up with this. Did anyone find a 
thermometer (not for grilling meat!)? Tim I think you said there is one 
but its not available. Correct? Is there a model name for it?


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On 5/8/2020 8:26 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

They are made by Withings, formerly Nokea.  I have the model named Body. 
  the Body Plus has a few extra readings that I felt unimportant to us, 
so went with the less fancy model.


Later…


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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 8, 2020, at 2:48 AM, Simon A Fogarty > wrote:


So what make / model are the scales?
*From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>

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*Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
Hi,
We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected through 
WiFi, so it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I open the 
Health-Mate app the weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that the Health 
app can read from Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate app can write 
weight data to the Apple Health app, so much of the time I do my 
checking in the Apple Health app itself.

Later…

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning
mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having
a lot of problems with it and even contacted with things and they
had no solution. Which scale do you have? I know they have
several. I had the body plus.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Petrus,
Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
Or Amazon?
I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to
look to deep.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>*On Behalf Of*Petrus
Tuerlings
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*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
Hi ET,
Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was
surprised that there was nothing available in the Apple store
given the health situation in the world at the moment. I do
have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, but I’m
certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads
out  your tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but
that one isn’t bluetooth and I’m not sure where they got it.



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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there
a good accurate device that works with the iPhone for
monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.

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Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

They are made by Withings, formerly Nokea.  I have the model named Body.  the 
Body Plus has a few extra readings that I felt unimportant to us, so went with 
the less fancy model.

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Jamf Certified Tech
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 8, 2020, at 2:48 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So what make / model are the scales?
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 4:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected through WiFi, 
> so it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I open the Health-Mate app 
> the weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that the Health app can read from 
> Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate app can write weight data to the Apple 
> Health app, so much of the time I do my checking in the Apple Health app 
> itself.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning  > wrote:
>  
> Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having a lot of 
> problems with it and even contacted with things and they had no solution. 
> Which scale do you have? I know they have several. I had the body plus.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Petrus,
>  
> Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?
>  
> Or Amazon?
> I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?
>  
> Hi ET,
> Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
> there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
> the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
> but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person. 
> They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
> tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth 
> and I’m not sure where they got it. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
>   This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
> device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? 
> "Accurate" is key here. Thanks.
> 
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That’s interesting Anders.  It certainly shoulnd’t normally be using that much 
juice in that short of time with the use-case you’ve mentioned. I use my XS for 
work and personal activities throughout the day and have anywhere from 35% to 
less than 10% by bedtime.  My XS is also about 18 months old.  Try going into 
Settings, Battery, swipe through the items on that screen and see if there’s 
any indication of what is doing the draining.  Usually, it will default to the 
last 24 hours.  You can swipe through those and down near the bottom of all the 
items, it will be able to say what apps or services were affecting battery 
life.  I would also change it to “Last 10 Days”, and do the same.  The info 
down at the bottom is even more enlightening when looking at it over the long 
term as opposed to the 24 hour period.  The XR should have better battery life 
than my XS, so this does not sound normal.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 8, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have an iPhone XR which i’ve had for 15 months.
> I don’t use it a lot during the day as i am mostly in my home.
> I answer phone calls and typing sms.
> Other things i do on my other apple devices i have.
> Yesterday the phone went from 100% to 27% within 10 hours.
> The battery helt claims my phone battery is normal.
> I don’t have bluetooth or mobile data on when i don’t need it.
> Only wiFi so i can take calls on other devices.
> /A
> 
>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 22:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
>> need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
>> day?
>> 
>>> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
>>> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
>>> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
>>> /A
>>> 
 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>> >:
 
 Hi Anders,
 The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off 
 bluetooth access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the 
 volume up button quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly 
 followed by holding the side button in until the phone started again. 
 Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I 
 usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to 
 time.
 
> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Aha! That might help me too.
> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
> Thanks Petrus for that.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
>> ask for. 
>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
>> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
>> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
>> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
>> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
>> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
>> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
>> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
>> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
>> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
>> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
>> permissions. 
>> Sorry for the rant, 
>> Petrus 
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[dan d.]

Do a virus/malware scan if you have such software
.  Otherwise do a google with multiple results  using:

os10 free virus scan
On Thu, 7 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

>  Still waiting any ideas
>
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 6, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ?? 
> >   wrote:
> >
> > ???so, what is the solution?
> >
> >
> >> On May 6, 2020, at 6:43 PM, dan d.  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I would venture a guess that clicking on the first message downloaded a 
> >> malware item, maybe a web tracker.
> >> The safari security on the mac is finding it and sending the message you 
> >> mention.
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 6 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa Saber  ??  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all:
> >>>
> >>> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone 
> >>> and Mac,
> >>> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
> >>> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and 
> >>> it asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
> >>> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
> >>> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. 
> >>> what is it?
> >>> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
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Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have an iPhone XR which i’ve had for 15 months.
I don’t use it a lot during the day as i am mostly in my home.
I answer phone calls and typing sms.
Other things i do on my other apple devices i have.
Yesterday the phone went from 100% to 27% within 10 hours.
The battery helt claims my phone battery is normal.
I don’t have bluetooth or mobile data on when i don’t need it.
Only wiFi so i can take calls on other devices.
/A

> 7 maj 2020 kl. 22:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> What model phone you got again? How long is your battery lasting before you 
> need to charge it up again, and what are you using your phone for during the 
> day?
> 
>> On 7/05/2020, at 23:35, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> There were a few apps that had bluetooth Permission.
>> Sdly it didn’t fix my battery issue.
>> Guess i have to talk to some apple authorized technission.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 7 maj 2020 kl. 00:10 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
>>> access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
>>> quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding 
>>> the side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the 
>>> regular way would probably work just as well but I usually get better 
>>> results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to time.
>>> 
 On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Aha! That might help me too.
 I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
 Thanks Petrus for that.
 /A
 
> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings  >:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps 
> ask for. 
> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful 
> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I 
> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access 
> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like 
> that. I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS  and 
> bluetooth but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my 
> battery life on my phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the 
> connection. I was sitting there on Sunday trying to work out why my 
> battery was draining so fast and I even checked my battery health and it 
> was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, the only change I 
> made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my settings and 
> found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned off the 
> bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to pay 
> more attention to apps when they ask me to give them access and 
> permissions. 
> Sorry for the rant, 
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Very Strange security problems appeared

[Jonathan Cohn]

I would discourage “less secure mode” unless you know for sure that you are on 
a system that is not supported by modern security protocols. For that matter, I 
thought these errors were occurring in the Browser and not in Mail. 
This is definately a failure of some kind with the SSL handshakes, but it could 
be a loss of root certificates (very unlikely), or a badly formed proxy in the 
home or local ISP. 
If indeed this is a  an issue while browsing I would suggest using Google 
Chrome or if you have sighted help Firefox I believe both have their own caches 
of the root certificate public key. In the current climate of staying at home, 
I’m not sure how one could test some kind of Man in the Middle type attack.
Really wish this was the clock problem, that would be easier.


> On May 7, 2020, at 11:36 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> On both the Mac and iPhone, make sure that date and time is correct. 
> 
> Now on iPhone navigate to Settings > Passwords & Accounts > Select Gmail > 
> Select Account (at the top) > Advanced > Under "Incoming Settings"  Turn OFF 
> "Use SSL" and then Turn it back ON.
> 
> Also, clear the browser history of your safari browser on Mac and log in to 
> Google Account and from Security turn On "less secured app access".
> 
> This will sort the issue that you're currently facing. 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Pramit
> 
> ‪On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM ‫Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر‬‎ 
> mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:‬
> Hi all:
> 
> From about 2 weeks, i start Receiving strange notifications on My Iphone and 
> Mac,
> on Iphone , i got a screen like:
> The identity of Google.com  can not be verified, and it 
> asked me to press cancel or details, and when i press details, i found 
> another details, then a certificate details, and that is it,
> I got this screen for google, outlook 365, freedomscientific, and more. what 
> is it?
> On mac, when visiting a site from safari, i got a message:
> THis site is tried to steal your information, and this browsing is not 
> private, it did not allow  me to visit this site,
> Am afraid is someone is tring to steal my data or what?
> THnaks
> 
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Re: Endnote

[Julie Rattray]

Yes it was fine it is now version .3 but it imported the old libraries no 
problem. I think it looks a little better re accessing it as well but haven’t 
explored the new version much yet 

> On 8 May 2020, at 09:45, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yes in endnote 19 they changed the way the database is written due to the 
> changes in Catalina.
> 
> I think from memory it's end note 19.2.1
> But then windows version also changed it's database format also and that was 
> a slightly different version number.
> 
> If you had endnote on your machine before updating to Catalina then endnote 
> will have created a backup version of your endnote library in the previous db 
> format as well as writing the new db format for your endnote library.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Julie Rattray
> Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 3:21 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Endnote
> 
> Hello,
> 
> So had to update my version of endnote because had upgraded to Catalina - but 
> having checked what I said earlier following update.
> 
> If you go to the library list and interact with it and then bring up the 
> context menu you have the option to create a group and then you are able to 
> use your add process as described.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 May 2020, at 11:29, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> are you using the desktop app or the web site. I found the web site to be 
>> terrible due to so many popups etc. If it is the desktop app, this is the 
>> process I used to follow:
>> 1. when I import a reference into endnote with an RIS file; focus reads out 
>> the reference.
>> 2. I then right click; vo, shift m and various context menu options appear.
>> 3. One option is to add the new reference to a group. If you have already 
>> created the group you arrow down to that group and click enter.
>> 4. If you haven’t managed to set up a group in advance there is an option 
>> called new group or something like that.
>> 5. I click on that then move over to the groups sidebar and rename the 
>> untitled group folder there; then I return to the reference and repeat the 
>> steps above.
>> 
>> This sounds a bit backwards, but I’ve never worked out how to create a new 
>> group in advance and then find it when adding a new reference; so I just 
>> stuck to this workflow.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps and feel free to get back to me if I’ve been unclear or it 
>> doesn’t work for you.
>> 
>> Luck
>> 
>>> On 7 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Thanks for your response. I need to use the groups feature within the 
>>> endnote. Because I have a number of references which I would like to 
>>> organise in different groups for my convenience.
>>> Again Thanks,
>>> Muhammad Babar.
>>> 
 On 5 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Julie Rattray  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use it a little to so can also try to help 
 
> On 4 May 2020, at 10:53, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been using it for my degree course and might be able to give some 
> sort of help.  If you want you can contact me off list at 
> ihcla...@gmail.com
> 
> Happy to try and help but I am no expert at all.
> 
> regards,
> Ian
> 
>> On 4 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Friends,
>> Is anyone using the endnote referencing software with Mac? I would be 
>> thankful for any tips to use it.
>> Thanks,
>> Muhammad.
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RE: Bluetooth Thermometer?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You all getting this after what’s happened here in Chch?

Not surprised, I’m wondering when they will let us back in to our work building 
which is somewhat part of the chch hospital precinct

Um, if you have a farenheight temp, man that would freak you out,

Fry an egg on your head type freaky.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 8:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

I’ll have to have a look later and see what is around. So far I’m getting my 
tempiture every day when I go to work anyway. But they do like to have a laugh 
and put the thing on Fahrenheit just to freak us out from time to time.


On 7/05/2020, at 21:16, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?

Or Amazon?
I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

Hi ET,
Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth and 
I’m not sure where they got it.



On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" 
is key here. Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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RE: Sharing a Mac between a blind user and a sighted user

[Simon A Fogarty]

I did but I just turned vo on / off as we swapped over 



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Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 6:52 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Sharing a Mac between a blind user and a sighted user

Hello, 
Is it possible to set up a Mac with 2 accounts, one for a blind user who needs 
VoiceOver always on and the other for a sighted user who wants VoiceOver always 
off.
Presumably VoiceOver would need to be on at logon time so that the blind user 
could enter the correct user name. If the blind user found that the sighted 
user was logged on could they do command+shift+q to log them off and get to the 
speaking logon screen? Do any listers share a Mac between sighted and blind 
users?
Many thanks for any tips.
Best wishes and keep well … Paul Hopewell

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New 13" MacBook Pro, WWDC Starts June 22, AirPods Pro Firmware Update

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RE: Giving Apps access and battery life

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I only get the 2 options power off and sos emergency call.


From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 4:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Giving Apps access and battery life

Hi,

Yes, that’s the same screen I get on my XS and my wife’s XR.  I have had it on 
occasion though focus on the Emergency SOS button instead of the Power Off 
button.  I usually suggest that people flick left until they hit the wall or 
hear “Power Off” before double-tapping.  Don’t need to call emergency services 
by accident.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Yes, that's the same screen I get on my iPhone X without a home button.
- Brad -

On May 7, 2020, at 11:11, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
On my SE 2 iPhone, when I press volume up and the right side button, I get a 
dialog with three items:
1. Power Off
2. Medical ID
3. Emergency SOS

The focus started on the power off button. I expect the same happens with the 
iPhone 10 and 11 systems.

Jonathan



On May 7, 2020, at 10:52 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks Brad.  I’m a little slow to the party this morning.  As always, you are 
spot on.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I’m not Tim, but the “normal procedure” to shut down an iPhone without a home 
button is to hold down the Volume Up button and the Side button at the same 
time, until you feel a vibration, then quickly release.  Then find the “Slide 
to Power Off” button near the top of the screen and double tap with one finger.

HTH


BRADFORD SNYDER
+1.214.893.8060
wb...@swbell.net


On May 7, 2020, at 07:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

I thought that was the way you shut down the iPhone since Apple got rid of the 
home button. What’s the “normal” way?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad


On May 6, 2020, at 10:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi Petrus,

I don’t recommend restarting your iPhone using that method unless your ipHone 
is unresponsive.  That is more like a forced restart, which can mess with 
things a little more harshly than the normal shutdown/power up version.  
Consider it like the Mac, in that normally, if you wish to restart, you go to 
the Apple menu and select Restart.  When the Mac is unresponsive, you can hold 
down the power button for about five seconds forcing the Mac to shut down.  The 
force shutdown can cause open files to get errors and other less desirable 
results.  Nine times out of ten, nothing bad will come of it, I just don’t 
think it’s worth the risk.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Anders,
The other thing I did that I forgot to mention after I turned off bluetooth 
access in lazarillo was to reboot my phone by pressing the volume up button 
quickly followed by the volume down button and quickly followed by holding the 
side button in until the phone started again. Turning it off the regular way 
would probably work just as well but I usually get better results if I do a 
reboot that way as well from time to time.


On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Aha! That might help me too.
I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
Thanks Petrus for that.
/A


4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:

Hi all,
I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask for.
I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when we 
moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t used it 
for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my location via 
bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. I couldn’t quite 
make the connection in my head between GPS  and bluetooth but I clicked on OK 
anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the 
preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on Sunday 
trying to work out why my battery was draining so fast and I even checked my 
battery health and it was still running at peek performance. Then it hit me, 
the only change I made recently was with the Lazarillo App, so I went into my 
settings and found the lazarillo app and checked the settings. Once I turned 
off the bluetooth access my battery life was back to normal. So I’m going to 
pay more attention to 

RE: Bluetooth Thermometer?

[Simon A Fogarty]

So what make / model are the scales?



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 4:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

Hi,

We have the Body.  I just weigh myself, the scale is connected through WiFi, so 
it logs my weight into the Cloud and as soon as I open the Health-Mate app the 
weight is visible.  I’ve set it so that the Health app can read from 
Health-Mate and that the Health-Mate app can write weight data to the Apple 
Health app, so much of the time I do my checking in the Apple Health app itself.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On May 7, 2020, at 6:51 AM, John JD Denning 
mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey that’s good news to hear that the app is usable. I was having a lot of 
problems with it and even contacted with things and they had no solution. Which 
scale do you have? I know they have several. I had the body plus.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2020, at 05:17, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Petrus,

Does the blind low vision nz have anything on their list of toys?

Or Amazon?
I have thought about getting one but never taken the time to look to deep.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Thermometer?

Hi ET,
Have you managed to find a bluetooth thermometer yet? I was surprised that 
there was nothing available in the Apple store given the health situation in 
the world at the moment. I do have a bluetooth  meet thermometer for cooking, 
but I’m certainly not going to use that on any part of my person.
They do have a contactless  thermometer at my work that reads out  your 
tempiture out loud when it is pointed at you, but that one isn’t bluetooth and 
I’m not sure where they got it.



On 5/05/2020, at 12:55, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  This is s good a time as any to ask about this. Is there a good accurate 
device that works with the iPhone for monitoring one's temperature? "Accurate" 
is key here. Thanks.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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RE: Endnote

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes in endnote 19 they changed the way the database is written due to the 
changes in Catalina.

I think from memory it's end note 19.2.1
But then windows version also changed it's database format also and that was a 
slightly different version number.

If you had endnote on your machine before updating to Catalina then endnote 
will have created a backup version of your endnote library in the previous db 
format as well as writing the new db format for your endnote library.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Julie Rattray
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2020 3:21 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Endnote

Hello,

So had to update my version of endnote because had upgraded to Catalina - but 
having checked what I said earlier following update.

If you go to the library list and interact with it and then bring up the 
context menu you have the option to create a group and then you are able to use 
your add process as described.



> On 7 May 2020, at 11:29, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> are you using the desktop app or the web site. I found the web site to be 
> terrible due to so many popups etc. If it is the desktop app, this is the 
> process I used to follow:
> 1. when I import a reference into endnote with an RIS file; focus reads out 
> the reference.
> 2. I then right click; vo, shift m and various context menu options appear.
> 3. One option is to add the new reference to a group. If you have already 
> created the group you arrow down to that group and click enter.
> 4. If you haven’t managed to set up a group in advance there is an option 
> called new group or something like that.
> 5. I click on that then move over to the groups sidebar and rename the 
> untitled group folder there; then I return to the reference and repeat the 
> steps above.
> 
> This sounds a bit backwards, but I’ve never worked out how to create a new 
> group in advance and then find it when adding a new reference; so I just 
> stuck to this workflow.
> 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps and feel free to get back to me if I’ve been unclear or it 
> doesn’t work for you.
> 
> Luck
> 
>> On 7 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Thanks for your response. I need to use the groups feature within the 
>> endnote. Because I have a number of references which I would like to 
>> organise in different groups for my convenience.
>> Again Thanks,
>> Muhammad Babar.
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use it a little to so can also try to help 
>>> 
 On 4 May 2020, at 10:53, Ian Harrison  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have been using it for my degree course and might be able to give some 
 sort of help.  If you want you can contact me off list at 
 ihcla...@gmail.com
 
 Happy to try and help but I am no expert at all.
 
 regards,
 Ian
 
> On 4 May 2020, at 00:03, muhammad babar Shahzad  
> wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> Is anyone using the endnote referencing software with Mac? I would be 
> thankful for any tips to use it.
> Thanks,
> Muhammad.
> 
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RE: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Jessica,

Yeah difficult one.

I’d contact the teacher and get a list of what is meant to be getting worked on 
and if they can provide access to the same services that your daughter is using 
and that way you can see what work is there and question her on what she is 
working on so that you know what the work load is and type of work as well.

Good luck.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:30 PM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

That’s something I unfortunately can’t afford to invest in right now, and 
something needs to be. Done soon sense Hannah’s grades are really low,  and she 
has a tendency to lie and say she’s. Doing her work, and sense not all lessons 
are live, and therefore not auditory, I need to know exactly what’s on her 
screen VS what she claims to be doing.


On May 7, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Is it going to far to set up a web cam with mic so you can watch / hear what 
the kids are doing while studying?

I’ve seen this done with Microsoft  certification tests, where they basically 
video watch you while your sitting the online exam,

This was a few years ago now but it was a serviceable option at the time.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 3:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Remoting into a Crome book via the Mac.

Hi,

You might wish to look at Chrome Remote Desktop.  It’s an extension you can use 
with Chrome that may work for you.  I’m not sure of how well things will work 
from an observation point of view, as most “remote-in” solutions are not 
particularly screen reader friendly with respect to reading the others screen 
contents.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada



On May 6, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jessica Moss 
mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I never thought I’d be needing to do this, however, I’ve been getting messages 
from Hannah’s teacher stating that she’s not turning in work/checking in on 
Microsoft Teams.  I’ve finally just made her. Come out of. Her room to do her 
work, but would like to know how I can view exactly what’s up on her. Screen, 
and know that she’s not just sitting their listening to music with her 
headphones on, and unfortunately, constantly hovering over her to make sure 
she’s doing it isn’t always going to be an option, for multiple reasons, one of 
them being, that not all of her lessons are auditory.  Has anyone ever done 
this, and if so, what’s involved in getting it set up?

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