RE: Simple Text Editors

[Brett Lewis]

VSCode is also a good editor for the terminal.
Brett


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Subject: Re: Simple Text Editors

What app do you use for the terminal?  I tried ISH and VoiceOver seems 
sluggish.  Also, I remember trying Nano with it and had trouble figuring out 
where my cursor was using VoiceOver.

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
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> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>
> there’s always VI, Emacs and nano. They are all available in the terminal.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:49 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi ET,
>>
>> I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just 
>> that. A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t think 
>> it was horribly expensive.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>>
>>>    Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
>>> plain text editor.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
>>> revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
> On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
 For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I 
 also like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer 
 back to later.
 For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re 
 looking for.
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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> Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I 
> like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now 
> it opens to a prompt to go premium.
>
> So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
> does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
>
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Re: Disk Maintenance

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Just wanted to add a brief description of my recent experience with performance 
problems:
I have had pretty sluggish performance for a while on my macbook pro 2020. Not 
sure exactly when it started, but has been enough to keep me from using my 
system much.
I had some time Friday evening so thought I would investigate.
1. I opened activity monitor and found that powerd was consuming something like 
105% of my CPU (Note I had to set the refresh interval on the View menu to the 
slowest interval to use the app). Also not sure how you can consume more than 
100% but...
2. After some googling, I opened terminal and typed:
pmset -g sched
And found a couple of pending tasks. These looked like perhaps pending email 
sends? Not sure exactly.
3. I then did
sudo pmset schedule cancelall

All I can say is wow, a huge performance boost. 
I have checked a couple of times since and no longer see powerd in the top 
processes.
No idea if this applies to anyone else, just my experience.
Brett






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> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A couple things of note. You’ve said that you’re running a Mac mini. YOu’ve 
> also mentioned that you have a 1 TB drive in it.
> 
> • is this a spinning HD or an SSD? A spinning HD is likely a 5400 RPM drive 
> which has rather slow disk access for today’s MacOS. This can result in the 
> “busy”, or “not responding” announcements.
> • how much RAM in the Mini? Anything less than 8 GB will get this sort of 
> response quite often. Especially if you’re running with a spinner.
> • what model year of Min is it? The older Minis, although they will run 
> Monterey, do not run it particularly fast and will often result in these 
> sorts of announcements.
> • an anti-virus app constantly running in the background will definitely 
> negatively affect performance of a Mac mini.
> 
> Depending on your answers to these items, will help to explain whether these 
> announcements are normal, or that there’s something amiss with your Mac.
> 
> Later…
> 
> > On Aug 29, 2022, at 06:52, Bill Gallik wfgal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > First and foremost, I want to say “Thanks” to each of the responses to my 
> > original inquiry. I appreciate the good intentions of all concerned.
> > 
> > However, none of the points raised factor in this problem. I typically have 
> > only 3 or 4 apps running at any given time; Finder, E-Mail, Checkbook Pro 
> > and Safari. Very rarely do I ever run more apps than the previously 
> > mentioned four apps.
> > 
> > As for memory, I have a 1 Terabyte hard drive with hardly more than 20% of 
> > the available disk space used.
> > 
> > I only turn off this Mac when severe weather is forecast so if routine disk 
> > maintenance is being done, it isn’t degraded by a “power off” condition.
> > 
> > In fact, while replying to this thread I had that dreaded “E-Mail is not 
> > responding” message.
> > 
> > And, oh yes, I do have anti-virus running in the background all the time. I 
> > realize that might account for some performance drag, but this “Application 
> > is not responding” message is occurring much too often.
> > 
> > * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Re: Opening a Contiguous Set of Text Files Into a Single Document

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Make sure all the txt files are in a folder and in alphabetical order.
Then in the terminal:

- cd to the folder where the txt files are stored
- cat *.txt >> ~/Desktop/combined.txt
- You should now have combined.txt on your desktop.
- Note the path to your desktop is ~/Desktop with a cap D.

HTH
Brett

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On Thursday, August 25th, 2022 at 6:47 AM, Dave Carlson 
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> I think there’s a way via the terminal app. Just don’t know enough to put it 
> together.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker
>
> On Aug 25, 2022, at 6:42 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
>
> you just have to cut and paste the different documents into one file.
>
>> On Aug 25, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>
>> Herbie,
>> Okay, then you’re saying that when I unzip, it will come out as a single 
>> large text file? I don’t know how that is accomplished.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Farfar, Pioneer, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, and Woodworker
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2022, at 6:07 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>
>> You can do a Zip file. Select the files you want, bring up your context menu 
>> with VO Shift M, and go down to Compress.
>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2022, at 00:05, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 16 text files from scanning pages. I want to open them and have them 
>>> all be one continuous text file.
>>> Is there a way to select these 16 text files in finder and then open them 
>>> or paste them into a single document? Sort of like a book binder app.
>>>
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Re: Open Twitter space is from my iPhone.

[Brett Lewis]

Glad that works.
I have been doing spaces with people involved in assistive technology for the 
last few months or so.
Always happy to have people join in.
On twitter: @brettlewisjudo
Brett





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On Monday, June 20th, 2022 at 12:56 PM, Steve Z.  wrote:


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>
> Thanks so much Brett. It works just fine. I usually try such a things, but 
> now I didn’t think of it.
> Once again thanks.
>
>
> > 20 Ιουν 2022, 6:48 μμ, ο χρήστης «Brett Lewis brettle...@brettlewis.us» 
> > έγραψε:
> >
> > Hi,
> > The compose tweet button has actions associated with it, so if you select 
> > actions in the rotor and swipe up/down you should find create a new space.
> > Let me know if that doesn't work for some reason.
> > Brett
> >
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> > > On Monday, June 20th, 2022 at 8:27 AM, Steve Z. gret...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually by opening I mean create a space.
> > >
> > > > 20 Ιουν 2022, 6:25 μμ, ο χρήστης «Steve Z. gret...@gmail.com» έγραψε:
> > > >
> > > > Hi list,
> > > > My question is how can I open a space on Twitter from my iPhone. I read 
> > > > the tutorial that says long press on the tweet button, but it doesn’t 
> > > > work.
> > > > Any suggestions how to do it?
> > > > Thanks
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Re: Open Twitter space is from my iPhone.

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
The compose tweet button has actions associated with it, so if you select 
actions in the rotor and swipe up/down you should find create a new space.
Let me know if that doesn't work for some reason.
Brett





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>
>
> Actually by opening I mean create a space.
>
> > 20 Ιουν 2022, 6:25 μμ, ο χρήστης «Steve Z. gret...@gmail.com» έγραψε:
> >
> > Hi list,
> > My question is how can I open a space on Twitter from my iPhone. I read the 
> > tutorial that says long press on the tweet button, but it doesn’t work.
> > Any suggestions how to do it?
> > Thanks
>
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Re: Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
The Twitter app itself is only ok. I listened to a nice review of Spring from 
Jonathan Mosen 
https://mosen.org/episode-175-if-you-could-only-choose-one-video-streaming-service-which-one-would-you-pick-and-a-review-and-demonstration-of-the-spring-twitter-app-for-apple-devices/
The difficulty with any third-party app is that it will lack some of the 
features of the official twitter client. Things like Spaces and Communities may 
not be supported.
Happy to offer help with the official Twitter app if you have any questions.
Brett






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>
> if I want to establish myself on Twitter, what should I download to make it 
> optimally accessible using my iPhone?
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> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Moving through headings on web pages?

[Brett Lewis]

Good morning.
When I have experienced this it is usually because I have inadvertently
turned off "single letter quick nav" which is VO+Q.
I haven't really figured out the difference between the two quick nav
related options: with the left and right arrows and the VO+Q but I would
check VO+Q and hopefully that will help.
Brett


On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 6:23 AM 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> All of a sudden I am unable to move through headings on webpages by
> pressing H.  This is also applying to other elements like I can't move
> through check boxes by pressing see. I am imagining that somehow I
> have altered a setting in VoiceOver perhaps accidentally by pressing a
> certain keystroke.  Years ago when I got my first Mac I seem to
> remember having to change the setting somewhere so that I could just
> press H to move through headings instead of having to press VO plus
> command plus H.  But I can't find information about this, Apple's
> documentation that I have read so far tells me that to move through
> headings I need to press VO plus command plus H.  But until today,
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Twitter Space with Matt Ater reviewing CSUN

[Brett Lewis]

At noon Eastern time today I will be hosting a twitter space with Matt Ater
from Vispero recapping the CSUN conference that took place last week.
If you are interested you can join here:
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Re: 1Password on Mac

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I have to use 1password for work and I have found that on the Mac,
1password in Chrome is much more consistent.
I tend to use command+\ to invoke it.
Safari is generally just a frustrating experience, when it works with the
arrow keys it is great but it doesn't often work.
Sending them an email is a great idea.
Brett


On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 8:10 AM minh Tam ha  wrote:

> I'm going to send an email to 1Password. I like it because I have many
> devices on different operating systems. But the lack of reliability on the
> Mac is quite annoying.
>
> Minh
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> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 12:44 AM Dave Carlson 
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>> I have the same difficulty — Wondering if I should just not subscribe in
>> the future.
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Re: Screenrecording.

[Brett Lewis]

Good morning.
I use ctrl+cmd+escape to stop the recording.
And I use shift+cmd+5 to start the recording.
HTH.
Brett


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 6:24 AM Anders Holmberg 
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> Hi!
> When I do a screen recording with quickTime player, how do I stop that
> recording.
> Just exiting the app does not work but I can’t find any thing in the menus
> either.
> I guess its something pretty simple.
> /A
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Very frustrating.
I checked and I think you won't see the tab if you aren't part of any
communities (I think Twitter is running an experiment on who has access).
If you join a community from an invite (the link I sent or you can direct
message me on Twitter and I will send you an invite) I think you will then
have the Communities tab.
Appreciate you following up on this.
My Twitter handle is: @brettlewisjudo

Brett



On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:29 PM M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Brett and thank you.
>
> Not only could I not locate Communities on either of my iOS or iPad app,
> latest versions, but I contacted 4 of my local friends and they, too, do
> not see the Communities tab.  The people I contacted are not VoiceOver
> users.
>
> I just went to the web portal, and, just as on the mobile apps, there is
> not a Communities tab.
>
> Mark
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Brett Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 7:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter
>
> Hi Mark,
> Spaces is where you can host audio only chats.
> Communities is a separate tab.
> Not sure why it isn't showing up for you.
> Just to cover the obvious, this is on iOS on an iPhone (I have not tried
> this on an iPad)?
> Do you have the latest version of the twitter app?
> Let me see if I can find out why the tab might be missing for you.
> Brett
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:11 PM M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hello Brett,
>
> I do not see a tab for Communities, on my Twitter app.  I see a tab
> labelled Spaces.
>
> Is Spaces the new area to which you are referring?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter
>
> Hi,
> Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
> I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
> I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you
> probably should bookmark for easy access.
> Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for
> communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the
> communities I belong to.
> On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
> Brett
>
>
> > On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> >
> >   Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan Cohn
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis <mailto:brettle...@brettlewis.us>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all:
> >> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen
> reader related.
> >> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen
> reader related.
> >> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi Mark,
Spaces is where you can host audio only chats.
Communities is a separate tab.
Not sure why it isn't showing up for you.
Just to cover the obvious, this is on iOS on an iPhone (I have not tried
this on an iPad)?
Do you have the latest version of the twitter app?
Let me see if I can find out why the tab might be missing for you.
Brett




On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:11 PM M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Brett,
>
> I do not see a tab for Communities, on my Twitter app.  I see a tab
> labelled Spaces.
>
> Is Spaces the new area to which you are referring?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Brett Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter
>
> Hi,
> Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
> I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
> I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you
> probably should bookmark for easy access.
> Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for
> communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the
> communities I belong to.
> On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
> Brett
>
>
> > On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> >
> > Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> >
> >   Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan Cohn
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all:
> >> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen
> reader related.
> >> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen
> reader related.
> >> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help
> shape the discussion, please join at:
> >> https://twitter.com/i/communities/1497020353159204879
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you probably 
should bookmark for easy access.
Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for 
communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the communities I 
belong to.
On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
Brett


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the 
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help shape 
>> the discussion, please join at:
>> https://twitter.com/i/communities/1497020353159204879
>> Brett
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New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

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Hi all:
I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen reader
related.
Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen reader
related.
It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help shape
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good blood pressure monitor that works with iPhone?

[Brett Lewis]

I have the withings blood pressure monitor and it does work.
I can't remember if the setup was accessible but the actual measurement
process provides no feedback. You have to press once to turn on the
monitor, wait a few seconds, press to start the measurement, when it is
done, press the monitor to show the measurement and finally one last time
to send it to the iPhone app.
Also, the design is awkward, it goes only on your left arm and is one
contained unit.
It does look kind of cool because it is a single rechargeable unit via usb
but I always have trouble getting it on my arm.
Just my thoughts.
Having said all that, I do use it and it works.
Brett


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 8:12 AM 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <
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> Hi,
>
> Have you looked at the monitors by Withings?
>
> https://www.withings.com/ca/en/blood-pressure-monitors
>
> The app is accessible for sure.  The only part I’m not sure of is the
> initial setup of the device.  I expect that it would be as their scales
> tend to be easy to use and can be set up without sighted assistance.
>
> Later…
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 10:07, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Jonathan,
>
> Yeah, I don’t get it.  I’ve contacted the dev, and they don’t know why
> it’s happening either.  At this point, I might just punt Qardio, and get a
> talking one instead.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> Crazy. The only other option I can see to try and correct this would be to
> remove the app and re-install it from the app store. If your BP is in your
> Health app, you probably will not lose the data, but if it is only in the
> Cardio app, it might be an issue. I suppose you could also try working with
> either Apple or the product developer to resolve the issues.
> Jonathan
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 08:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Well, I was really hoping that would solve my issue, but it didn’t.  When
> I checked in privacy settings, Qardio was already on.  I turned it off and
> back on, but that didn’t fix the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 6:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> Hello Donna,
> In the last couple versions of IOS, apps are not allowed to communicate
> directly with the bluetooth stack without being given permission. This is
> because bluetooth was being used to track peoples locations. Any bluetooth
> device that needs an app to interpret it, must have that apps be granted
> bluetooth access in the privacy table. To do this,open up the Settings app
> under privacy select bluetooth and then look to make sure your app is
> enabled here.
> Generally, there are four types of apps I find in the list that have
> requested bluetooth access:
> 1. Location apps that are using bluetooth to better pinpoint your
> location, like Sound Scape and Blind Square
> 2. Apps  that use chrome cast to send video to TVs.
> 3. Apps to specialially control a specific device (iRobot)
> 4. Apps that want to track you wit bluetooth beacons I have one restaurant
> and  CBS News )
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I’ve got it turning on - I just wasn’t closing it tightly enough.
> But it still says Bluetooth permission denied every time I start a
> measurement.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 12:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness 
> wrote:
>
> Oh wow!  I don’t know of any others that work with th3e i phone.  Hope you
> find one, though!
>
> Cait
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 11:26 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Caitlyn,
>
> That’s the one I have, but it does not work great.  I can’t even get it to
> come on.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Caitlyn Furness 
> wrote:
>
> the qardio arm works great!  There is an app called qardio which handles
> all their devices.  Basically, once you have the qardio arm paired to the
> phone through bluetooth, all you have to do is open the app, select qardio
> arm, then put the cuff on your arm properly and it automatically takes your
> bp and tells you the results in the app.  I have one of these, have had for
> some years now, but can’t remember the price I paid for it.
>
> HTH,
> Cait
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2022, at 10:20 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Qardio Arm, but it never works.  It simply doesn’t come on when I
> unwrap it, so then it doesn’t connect to my phone.  I’ve done everything,
> change the batteries, re-set, re-pair, but nothing has he

Re: Google Drive

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Can you explain a little about what you are trying to do?
I just tried my Google Drive app and things seem ok.
I am running Version: 53.0.8.0 (Intel) of google drive.
I poked around a bit in the settings and didn’t see anything about link copying.
When I open the google drive app from the extras menu I can tab from the 
activity tab to notifications and a menu called more options which gives me 
access to the preferences.
Is this what you get ?
Brett


> On Nov 17, 2021, at 20:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> a few weeks ago Google Drive got changed again. I think it went from backup 
> and sync back to Google Drive. anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to turn 
> on link sharing and not having much luck. when I copy a link to the clipboard 
> I get the message that link sharing is off but I don't know how to change 
> that even though I've gone up there and poked around.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Alexa, Play Some Music: All the Alexa Music Commands

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
You can ask Alexa to switch to a male voice.
I switched mine a while ago.
Brett


On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 7:03 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Well, for the record, the posted  link works just fine in Lynx too.
> Still, I have a question?
> I do not own an echo, and if  alexa's voice is the one I have come across
> from Amazon she sounds rather unpleasant speaking personally, but I prefer
> male voices in general.
> Is there a way to change her voice if one dislikes the sound?
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2021, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Continuing my immersion into the world of Alexa's Music abilities with
> > Amazon Music as well as third-party services, including Apple Music, I
> found
> > an article that discusses virtually all of the Alexa music-related voice
> > commands now available in the Alexa app and Echo devices from 2015 to
> 2021.
> >
> > Originally, I was going to paste the contents of the article directly
> into
> > this post but doing so proved unmanageable from a screen reader
> perspective.
> >
> > So, instead, I will simply paste in the URL to the article which I am
> > delighted to report, is remarkably screen reader accessible.
> >
> > I used both VoiceOver and Jaws for Windows, to review the article before
> > deciding  to  post to the group.
> >
> > Alexa, Play Some Music: All the Alexa Music Commands can be found at:
> > https://www.smartenlight.com/alexa-music-voice-commands/.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Mark
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Re: More info in disappearing settings icons

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Definitely a bad design!
Thanks,
Brett


> On Aug 10, 2021, at 11:15 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This does not work as Screen Recognition will not appear in the rotor for 
> that app if this behaviour is present.  What happens is that VO gets stuck in 
> the Status bar, and any attempts at moving focus out of the Status bar are 
> thwarted.  So, because it is in the Status bar, not the Settings app, Screen 
> recognition does not present itself as an option in the rotor.  Sighted 
> assistance is necessary as the remedy requires VO to be off.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Another option is you can add the screen recognition to the rotor and that 
>> way it’s accessible if it accidentally gets turned on for a particular app.
>> 
>> Brett
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:23 AM, kglists via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>>  
>>> Just to say that I had this problem a few weeks ago.  As I have no vision, 
>>> I used my mac to restore my I phone and then had to get a recent update on 
>>> it and then make sure that my phone had gone to factory defaults and then 
>>> get the phone to restore itself from a recent back up.  I hate that voice 
>>> recognition.
>>>  
>>> Kawal. 
>>>  
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:58 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: More info in disappearing settings icons
>>>  
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>  
>>> Thanks.  I ended up calling Apple Accessibility.  They couldn’t figure it 
>>> out either, so I ended up resetting all my settings.  Kind of a pain, but 
>>> it took care of the problem.
>>>  
>>> Just for grins, I did what you suggested, just to see what I could see.  
>>> There was nothing pertaining to Recognition in the rotor, the closest thing 
>>> I saw was Direct Touch. I suppose it’s possible that somehow that got set 
>>> to On, but I sure can’t imagine how.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello,
>>> Move to the app switcher and make sure focus is on settings. Once focus is 
>>> on setting turn the rotor to screen recognition and flick up till it says 
>>> it is off. This should solve this issue.
>>>  
>>> Greg Wocher
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>  
>>> So when I go into Settings, if VO is on, focus is locked on the Status bar. 
>>>  Neither my husband nor I can scroll down.  The minute I three-finger 
>>> swipe, it opens the control center.  I finally got into the VO screen by 
>>> turning Voiceover off, having my husband scroll down, turn VO back on.  But 
>>> he said it shows white instead of green, and when He taps Recognition, 
>>> nothing happens.  Any thoughts?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:34 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Maybe check if Screen Recognition has been enabled for the Settings app.  
>>> Your husband may need to do this due to the current inaccessibility of the 
>>> Settings.  It would be found in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, 
>>> VoiceOver Recognition.  Usually this can be accomplished using the rotor, 
>>> but if the screen recognition won’t let you work within the Settings app, 
>>> you kind of end up in a useless loop.
>>>  
>>> Later…
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So this morning I had my husband look at my phone screen.  He said that all 
>>> my icons and

Re: More info in disappearing settings icons

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Another option is you can add the screen recognition to the rotor and that way 
it’s accessible if it accidentally gets turned on for a particular app.

Brett


> On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:23 AM, kglists via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello.
>  
> Just to say that I had this problem a few weeks ago.  As I have no vision, I 
> used my mac to restore my I phone and then had to get a recent update on it 
> and then make sure that my phone had gone to factory defaults and then get 
> the phone to restore itself from a recent back up.  I hate that voice 
> recognition.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: More info in disappearing settings icons
>  
> Hi Greg,
>  
> Thanks.  I ended up calling Apple Accessibility.  They couldn’t figure it out 
> either, so I ended up resetting all my settings.  Kind of a pain, but it took 
> care of the problem.
>  
> Just for grins, I did what you suggested, just to see what I could see.  
> There was nothing pertaining to Recognition in the rotor, the closest thing I 
> saw was Direct Touch. I suppose it’s possible that somehow that got set to 
> On, but I sure can’t imagine how.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
>  
> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>  
> Hello,
> Move to the app switcher and make sure focus is on settings. Once focus is on 
> setting turn the rotor to screen recognition and flick up till it says it is 
> off. This should solve this issue.
>  
> Greg Wocher
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi Tim,
>  
> So when I go into Settings, if VO is on, focus is locked on the Status bar.  
> Neither my husband nor I can scroll down.  The minute I three-finger swipe, 
> it opens the control center.  I finally got into the VO screen by turning 
> Voiceover off, having my husband scroll down, turn VO back on.  But he said 
> it shows white instead of green, and when He taps Recognition, nothing 
> happens.  Any thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:34 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Maybe check if Screen Recognition has been enabled for the Settings app.  
> Your husband may need to do this due to the current inaccessibility of the 
> Settings.  It would be found in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver 
> Recognition.  Usually this can be accomplished using the rotor, but if the 
> screen recognition won’t let you work within the Settings app, you kind of 
> end up in a useless loop.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> So this morning I had my husband look at my phone screen.  He said that all 
> my icons and their labels are showing on the screen.  So it seems that the 
> problem isn’t that they aren’t there, but rather that Voiceover isn’t reading 
> them.  I re-booted my phone before going to sleep last night, and still, the 
> only thing VO will read once I open settings is the Status bar.  I’d greatly 
> appreciate any help or suggestions anyone can offer.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: acccessible sprinkler timer

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I’ve never use the touchscreen part of the device. I put up on the wall and 
connected up all the wires and got it all working.
I did it last summer, so I can’t actually remember if I needed any help 
configuring it or not.

When I turned it on this spring, I didn’t have to do anything to connect up the 
app just worked.
It also will work with HomeKit, but I tend not to use it that way.
I just added a second program the other day. It works just fine.


> On Jul 15, 2021, at 4:12 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> The touch screen worried me.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Brett Lewis
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: acccessible sprinkler timer
>  
> Hi,
> This one is eight zones, but it does work well with the iPhone app. I have 
> not tried configure it with Alexa.
>  
> RainMachine Pro-8, Cloud Independent, Touch, 8 Zones Wi-Fi/Ethernet 
> Irrigation Controller, Compatible with Alexa 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N7TCZK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8E8P5FD5AJE6MRM7NQJJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
> Brett
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2021, at 4:06 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> All:
> I’m looking for a 4 zone accessible sprinkler timer that works with Alexa, 
> Google Home, and has an easy to configure iphone app. Anyone have 
> recommendations.
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Re: acccessible sprinkler timer

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
This one is eight zones, but it does work well with the iPhone app. I have not 
tried configure it with Alexa.

RainMachine Pro-8, Cloud Independent, Touch, 8 Zones Wi-Fi/Ethernet Irrigation 
Controller, Compatible with Alexa 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N7TCZK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8E8P5FD5AJE6MRM7NQJJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Brett


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> 
> 
> All:
> I’m looking for a 4 zone accessible sprinkler timer that works with Alexa, 
> Google Home, and has an easy to configure iphone app. Anyone have 
> recommendations.
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Re: I have a VMware fusion question, please read below.

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I don't know if you figured this out, but there is the snapshots menu item,
which is part of the virtual machine menu.
You have a list of all your saved snapshots which you can delete by using
the shortcut menu  on a snapshot and selecting it.  The delete button then
should become available and you can delete it.
This process is a little bit inconsistent but does work.
In that dialog there is also an auto protect button which lets you specify
the number of snapshots to keep.
HTH,
Brett


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> Hello, here's my question is there any way to delete a huge pile of
> snapshot files. Unfortunately my Windows virtual machine is taking almost
> 400 gig up on my drive. In fact I don't believe my Windows is nearly that
> big. Is there an easy way to do this? And if so can someone make some
> suggestions is to how to do this without destroying the virtual machine?
>
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Re: twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I think the web interface works the best on the Mac. I’m sure there are other 
opinions out there.



> On Apr 8, 2021, at 8:03 AM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Can anyone suggest a twitter client? I have never used it so don't know 
> anything about it.
> Thanks.
> Patrick 
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Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement of
text to be the character to the right of the caret.
Sadly I have found this to be unreliable.  That is, it works some times and
other times it announces the wrong character.
I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
YMMV.
Brett


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord 
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> Hi,
>
> I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
> struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
> for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
> I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
> delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
> and can’t seem to get it right.
>
> Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
> is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
> screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
> through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
> possible.
>
> I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
> the NFB. “If
> you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
> have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
> editing. This
> is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
> and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.
>
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Re: Google drive

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I just installed backup & sync on my MacBook Pro running Big Sur.
Seems to work fine.
Do you have the entry in the extras menu?
There are settings under there for your account and preferences.
I didn’t have to set any preferences in system settings for the install.
Brett


> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I forgot to say that I had no system dialoges windows oopen. where are system 
> settings? I assumed they were in system preferences but they might not be.
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Hopefully, you can find where to authorize Google Drive to controls. For 
>> DropBox, I believe it wanted Accessibility privileges and Disk access 
>> privileges. 
>> First thing is to bring up application chooser, and see if you have any 
>> System Windows open. If so review those.
>> 
>> Then, open the system settings  Security and Privacy  panel switch to the 
>> Privacy tab. Now, unlock your system preferences in with the unlock button 
>> near the bottom and then start looking for places where Google is listed 
>> with an unchecked checkbox. If you feel comfortable with Google types of 
>> services, then allow it access by checking the checkbox.
>> Hopefully that will get you started., 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 17:43, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> is Google Drive still accessible on a Mac running Catalina? when I open 
>>> Backup and Sync from Google nothing shows up for vo to read. my drive on my 
>>> desktop is obviously not synced with the one on the web. is there anything 
>>> I can do about this?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: VoiceOver and Google Docs

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Hi,
I have found docs to mostly be unusable on the Mac.
A couple of things which seem to make it better.
First I use chrome rather than safari.
Second, you can go to tools/accessibility options when in a Google doc and
uncheck the braille mode checkbox.  Braille mode is pretty good on Windows
but doesn't work well for me on the Mac.
Hopefully that will help a bit, but for me I had to get a windows machine
to really work with Google Docs.
Brett



On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 6:48 AM Barbara Hollick  wrote:

> I am struggling with Google Docs. When I type, VoiceOver will announce the
> letters I am typing but when I hit space, it does not read the word. I do
> not have the same experience when I use my PC. Is there something set
> incorrectly? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
> Warm regards,
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Voiceover skipping punctuation

[Brett Lewis]

Hi All:
Has anyone found a solution for the following:
If I am in something like Text Edit and I have a line of code (in this case 
react).
   

This line actually says (I have inserted spaces to make punctuation speak).
   

This is with punctuation set to all.
Missing the initial { and . . . is really a problem for coding.
I am hoping someone has a suggestion.
In case it is important, this is with Alex as my syntheisizer.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: What's Behind America's Starlink Obsession? PC Magazine

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I got a beta invite for this last weekend.
The beta is $99/mo and $499 for the terminal.
You get a beta for that amount and only 150 mbps approximately based on the 
speed tests I have seen.
My ISP (Xfinity) is not good but they offer $90/mo for 1 GBPS.
Just my $.02.
Brett


> On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:14 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> What's Behind America's Starlink Obsession?  PC Magazine
> 
> What's Behind America's Starlink Obsession?
> Starlink is catnip for PC Mag readers. Just say the word and they come
> a'clicking in the tens of thousands. The satellite ISP's mystique is a
> combination of Elon Musk (an unappealingly named men's cologne) and
> Americans' hopeless desperation for better home Internet choices. And at
> this point, it's getting way out of hand.
> 
> "SpaceX is aiming to one day deliver 10Gbps internet speeds over its
> satellite internet system," our story reads, couching SpaceX's ambitions in
> similar terms to my ambition to have ripped abs. 
> Americans are desperate for better connectivity. They've given up on
> regulators, incumbent ISPs and their own communities to provide them.
> They're holding out for a hero ('till the end of the night). They want Musk
> to be their streetwise Hercules, but he's Loki. But not hot. Kind of moist.
> Damp Loki.
> 
> Putting up satellites is the most expensive, lowest-capacity way to spread
> Internet access, except in very rural regions. Whether your satellite is a
> Virgo or a LEO doesn't change this. The fact that anyone in a suburb thinks
> it's a more practical solution than just running fiber a few hundred yards
> speaks only to the complete failure of the US ISP market to encourage
> buildouts.
> 
> Of 114 million fixed-Internet subscriptions in the US, around 2 million use
> satellite Internet. It's the Internet of last resort. And while Starlink
> will release a few million rural users from the tyranny of Hughesnet and
> Viasat, it's not going to help us with our cable monopolies.
> 
> A research note from Cowen says that at full capacity, the Starlink
> constellation will support 485,000 data streams. Multiply by, say, 100 for
> oversubscription, and you get around 50 million people-but that's globally.
> The US is only 2% of the area of the globe. An anonymous, but convincing
> space-tech blogger points out that only about 3% of Starlink's satellites
> will be over the US at any given time and estimates a maximum capacity of
> about a million US subscribers.
> 
> Starlink will have a much bigger effect elsewhere in the world, in places
> where it's actually impossible to build good wired broadband. I'd be excited
> to see what a Starlink connection per village does in much of the developing
> world. If a village of 100 families each pay $1 per month to share a
> terminal connected to a Wi-Fi router...now we're talking.
> 
> The wireless internet promised by T-Mobile and Verizon could help tens of
> millions more Americans than Starlink, except that T-Mobile and Verizon have
> miserably failed at communicating and promoting it. Verizon's 5G Home
> rollout is incomprehensible. It's Schrodinger's Internet. T-Mobile service
> is available to customers at certain addresses, but the carrier doesn't
> provide coverage maps.
> 
> There are much easier ways to offer more Internet to more Americans. We
> could demand that our states drop their bans on municipal broadband. Or we
> could demand that the Federal government open cable and fiber lines to
> competitive providers, as is true in Canada and the UK, as Canadian ISP rep
> (and ex-PCMagger) Bryson Masse pointed out on Twitter.
> 
> But no. Elon Musk!! Gamestonk!! We have decided that as a society it is
> easier to shoot a thousand satellites into space than just pass a law.
> 
> Original Article at:
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Re: Announcing indentation

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Hi,
I can definitely work around the problem (and Braille helps).
Development on Windows was much nicer however.
Unfortunately, that is no longer an option with my current job.
Brett


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, there is no way. I’m a professional developer and have 
> never found a way to get VO to announce the indentation.
> 
> Nine times out of ten I really don’t need to, since my editor takes care of 
> indentation automatically. But if I do need to check, I just put the cursor 
> at the first non-space character of the line, then press down-arrow and see 
> if it’s still at the first character. If right arrow announces a space, then 
> I know there’s another level of indentation. But again this hasn’t been a big 
> issue for me.
> 
> Brandon
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks,  I thought this would be easy and I was just missing something.
>> Brett
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:09 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
>>> checking around.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
>>>> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
>>>> Anyway, I learned a new command.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Brett
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
>>>>> indentation though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All:
>>>>>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how 
>>>>>> to get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>>>>>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
>>>>>> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>>>>>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
>>>>>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual 
>>>>>> studio code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>>>>>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and 
>>>>>> col but this fails about half the time.
>>>>>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>>>>>> Brett
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Re: Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Interesting, sadly that is not an option where I work.
Brett


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:13 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just use Emacspeak on the Mac, it handles indentation well.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
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> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As far as I know, there is no way. I’m a professional developer and have 
>> never found a way to get VO to announce the indentation.
>> 
>> Nine times out of ten I really don’t need to, since my editor takes care of 
>> indentation automatically. But if I do need to check, I just put the cursor 
>> at the first non-space character of the line, then press down-arrow and see 
>> if it’s still at the first character. If right arrow announces a space, then 
>> I know there’s another level of indentation. But again this hasn’t been a 
>> big issue for me.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks,  I thought this would be easy and I was just missing something.
>>> Brett
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:09 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
>>>> checking around.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
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>>>> Director
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>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
>>>>> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
>>>>> Anyway, I learned a new command.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Brett
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
>>>>>> indentation though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Director
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All:
>>>>>>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out 
>>>>>>> how to get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>>>>>>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number 
>>>>>>> of spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>>>>>>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position 
>>>>>>> announced?
>>>>>>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual 
>>>>>>> studio code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>>>>>>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln 
>>>>>>> and col but this fails about half the time.
>>>>>>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>>>>>>> Brett
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Thanks,  I thought this would be easy and I was just missing something.
Brett


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 1:09 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  Ok. I wasn’t sure. There has to be a command to do this. I will do some 
> checking around.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>> Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
>> I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
>> Anyway, I learned a new command.
>> Thanks,
>> Brett
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
>>> indentation though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All:
>>>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how 
>>>> to get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>>>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
>>>> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>>>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
>>>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
>>>> code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>>>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and 
>>>> col but this fails about half the time.
>>>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>>>> Brett
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Re: Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Thanks for the suggestion.
Sadly VO-t doesn’t seem to do anything in Visual Studio Code.
I just tried it here in the message and it only did font size/type/color.
Anyway, I learned a new command.
Thanks,
Brett


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Does VO-t do it? That is the text attribute command. Not sure if it does 
> indentation though.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>> get Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
>> Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of 
>> spaces or tabs at the beginning of a line.
>> Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
>> I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio 
>> code in this case), but any idea would be great.
>> I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and col 
>> but this fails about half the time.
>> Any ideas would really be nice.
>> Brett
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Announcing indentation

[Brett Lewis]

Hi All:
I aim hoping I have missed something, but I can’t seem to figure out how to get 
Voiceover on the Mac to announce how indented my caret is.
Ideally, there would be a way to get Voiceover to announce the number of spaces 
or tabs at the beginning of a line.
Short of that, is there a way to get my current caret position announced?
I am specifically interested in doing this in a code editor (visual studio code 
in this case), but any idea would be great.
I have tried setting a web Spot on the control that announces the ln and col 
but this fails about half the time.
Any ideas would really be nice.
Brett

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Re: Strange focus/reading problems in Safari on my iphone

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Do you have the screen recognition turned on by any chance?
This is under settings accessibility voiceover and voiceover recognition.
Make sure it’s turned off for safari. I should note you can add it to the rotor 
and then turn it on for each app as you move, I just don’t know if it’s part of 
your rotor.
Hope that helps.


> On Jan 10, 2021, at 1:45 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having a weird problem with safari on my iphone which basically
> makes safari unusable.  When I try to edit/type a web address, VO does
> not read the keyboard, though I'm told by a sighted person that it's
> there - VO just makes those sounds on it like it does when there's
> nothing on the screen.  Even if I double tap where the keys show,
> nothing appears in the address bar.  Additionally, the buttons at the
> bottom of safari for "back", "forward", "bookmarks" e.t.c. are just
> announced by VO as "left arrow" for back, "right arrow" for forward
> and nothing at all except "tab" for the others - it calls them "tab"
> instead of "button" like it does normally.  Apparently the icons for
> those buttons do look different to normal.
> 
> If I view a page via the gmail app - where it opens the link kind of
> in safari within gmail - all is normal and fine.  But if I press that
> button which says "open in safari" it goes to the normal safari and
> goes wrong/odd again.
> 
> I tried closing all the tabs, quitting and restarting safari,
> restarting my phone and restarting VO which made no difference.
> 
> Does this ring any bells for anyone?
> 
> I checked to see if there any ios updates available and there aren't.
> The only other thing I can think of that might have made a difference
> was that yesterday, in between the time safari was working normally
> and when it started behaving oddly, I put in a lightning to 3.5mm
> adapter to use some earphones.  When I put it in, the phone asked me
> whether this accessory was to use headphones and I said yes.  It also
> said something about being able to change this option later somewhere.
> I'm no longer using the adapter as I was borrowing it for a few hours.
> But I'm wondering if somehow that made safari go wrong.  But I can't
> find where to change that option - have looked everywhere I can think
> and searched in settings.  Perhaps anything relating to that adapter
> would only appear when I connect it again.  I'm going to borrow it
> again but has anyone any idea where I'd look for info about/to change
> options relating to that adapter?
> 
> If not, I guess it's a phone reset...
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: What has happened to the PayPal mobile app?

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I don’t know if this could be why, but do you have the screen recognition 
feature turned on for PayPal? If it is try turning it off.
There is an option under voiceover settings called voiceover recognition.
If you go in there you can see if screen recognition is on and if you click on 
that, it will show you for which apps it’s on.
Brett


> On Jan 7, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Nope! My PayPal account is just fine and it works fine from the desktop 
> website. It’s only the stupid app on the phone that is so fouled up. As I 
> said I’ve deleted it re-download it signed in and a bit it signed out of it 
> everything except pull the hair out of my head and I’ve decided it’s no 
> longer worth the trouble thanks anyway Dave
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:13 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like you need to set up PayPal again. Or log int using your original 
>> account.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
>> 
>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I just deleted and re-downloaded the PayPal app with the same result, no 
>> send or request buttons anywhere. Actually occasionally using the item 
>> chooser, I can   find the send button but It is buggy and unreliable.  when 
>> I click that send button it sends me into the scan section of the app where 
>> I can use the camera to scan something, So obviously that is screwed up and 
>> not what I want.
>> 
>> upon entering the app I get at the top three buttons, notifications, 
>> profile, and settings. That is followed up by a sales pitch for the PayPal 
>> cash, then some cash rewards from my Discover card then most recent 
>> activity. after the  most recent activity is a pitch to make donations to 
>> charitable organizations.
>> At the bottom of the screen there are what looks like three tabs. The left 
>> most button is scan, The middle one is payments and the last is more. 
>> Neither of these buttons bring me anywhere where there is a send a request 
>> button. The scan tab obviously brings me back into that scan section where 
>> you can use the camera to scan QR codes etc. The payments tab does zip, and 
>> the more button brings up a menu of totally extraneous features from PayPal, 
>> none of which are for sending or requesting money. I’ve contacted PayPal 
>> support and they’re useless. Alall I get there is a robot assistant which is 
>> totally limited in its ability to help me. Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 6, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> how long ago did this start? I was able to use it last week.
>>> 
> On Jan 6, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 They change something in the most recent app update, and now all I get is 
 a splash screen with cryptocurrency offers, donation options, but there is 
 no more send button or request button. I have to now use the desktop 
 website in order to send money. Anyone else having this problem?
 
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Re: additional voices?

[Brett Lewis]

Hi All:
Just a note on voices.
I was taking a programming class for work a couple of weeks ago and I
was using the Tom voice on my mac.
One of the functions we used was
.toSeq
Tom insisted on calling this "to the following" which was really confusing.
I have no idea why the strange pronunciation.
I switched back to Alex and things are less confusing.
Just FYI,
Brett


On 12/30/20, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
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> Many of them are from Nuance. The "Fred" voice sounds somewhat similar
> to a DECTALK, but not as good in my opinion.
>
> On 12/29/20 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> I'm not sure about frequency, I believe tmost of these voices are the
>> same as what JAWS offers.
>> Karen, Samantha.
>> One thing with the Apple voice setting area, one can adjust both
>> pitch and intonation.
>> My understanding of intonation is how flat the voice will b.
>> HTH
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 14:43, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Shawn,
>>> Thanks for that information.
>>> My personal situation is that, due to experiencing a rather  unique
>>> secondary  disability, I have yet to find a safe voice to use.  One
>>> that does not at best stimulate my brain's dizzy centres, or at worst
>>> create something a bit like a Cesar.
>>> My last try, in March, involved a siri voice  on an Iphone, which
>>> made me rather sick indeed.
>>> for the moment Hardware, gosh  I wish someone had saved the digital
>>> dectalk voices, as I use a hardware decktalk voice now, seems safer
>>> than software strict like Ios...believe me its complex even for my
>>> medical team.
>>> What I hoped for from the list  was frequency related information
>>> anything that might hint at quality before I try.
>>> I would  not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for
>>> other reasons.  Still, I imagine there are  at least 20 or more
>>> options just in the regular non-siri voices.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>
 Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes.
 Bells basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather
 clock. There are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get
 indepth about because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell
 you one voice I'm glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can
 now use Siri voices. They added those voices in Catalina and they
 can be used in Big Sur as well.

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> On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen
> mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>
> What defines a voice as useless?
> I suppose a voice named bells,  is just a ringer not a talker?
> Are the voices say for English first  in the order, or must one go
> down the list  finding non-English speaking voices mixed  into the
> options? Clarity  is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly
> on the mac.
> Thanks so much,
>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>
>> Well, I believe they’re only 40 English voice says, and of those
>> at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they’re marked them as
>> different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact
>> version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice
>> that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen
>>> mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Jonathan,
>>> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere?
>>> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.?
>>> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice
>>> distinctive from each   other besides the name.
>>> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing.
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

 There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as
 downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the
 Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in
 the pop-up list this will be "customize".
 Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each
 voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be
 enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list 

Re: Yubikey?

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
This works exactly the same way on the Mac. You just touch the key and it 
authenticates. I should note this also works on iPhones.
If they have the NFC chip built-in you can just touch them to the back of the 
iPhone and touch your finger and it authenticates.
Brett

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:52 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi, Donna:
> 
> Regretably, I've no experience using it on a Mac, but I can't imagine it
> would be any different.
> 
> It's such a little thing for me, the user. Just touch the back of the
> device that's in the USB port after typing my few chars.
> 
> But, it will be good to hear a confirmation from someone with experience
> on a Mac. I responded just because I'm thinking there might not be a lot
> of folks with experience with Yubi keys.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Thanks, Janina. Do you happen to know how well it works with a Mac?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:57 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Donna:
>>> 
>>> I use a Yubi key regularly to access my employer's VPN network and all
>>> relevant services on that network. It works for me as follows:
>>> 
>>> 1.)I log into my Windows laptop computer;
>>> 
>>> 2.)I access the Cisco VPM application and press enter on the
>>> Connect button;
>>> 
>>> 3.)When the screen asking for my keyword plus the Yubi key appears,
>>> I type my pass phrase -- just a few chars -- then I reach over to my
>>> laptop, where the Yubi key is permanently installed in a USB port and
>>> simply touch it. I don't even have to press it very hard.
>>> 
>>> 4.)When I start to hear screen reader activity, I know I can let go
>>> of the Yubi key.
>>> 
>>> 5.)When I hear the chime indicating success I have full VPN access
>>> until the VPN requires me to renew my connection through this same
>>> process.
>>> 
>>> Please note I have no idea about setting up this device. I recieved it
>>> along with the laptop from my employer and have been using it without
>>> issue for some 18 months.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
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 Hi all,
 
 Has anyone used this device for authentication? Is it accessible?
 TIA,
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Re: Selecting text from a PDF

[Brett Lewis]

this is great
i did not know about that key

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Another way to do this would be to use VO + Shift + c to copy the last 
> spoken phrase to the clipboard.
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 11.12.2020 um 03:10 schrieb Zoe Fiogkos :
>> 
>> Hi Brad, I will give it a try. I was hoping not to have to take this extra 
>> step but if there is no other way, at least it can still be done.
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would suggest opening the PDF document in Preview, as you have done, then 
>>> highlighting the entire document using CMD + A, and copying the selected 
>>> text to the clipboard.  Then open TextEdit, and paste the clipboard 
>>> contents to a blank TextEdit document, and hopefully you will now have an 
>>> editable copy of the PDF’s contents.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if this works. 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 10, 2020, at 19:19, FIOGKOS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody I hope somebody can help. I’m not going to lie I have asked on 
>>> another list and didn’t find an answer I’m hoping somebody here will know 
>>> the answer to my question. I received a PDF file via email. I saved the 
>>> attachment to my documents. I opened the PDF with preview. I interact with 
>>> the text and I am able to read the document. I can select the whole 
>>> document and copy and paste it somewhere else but I cannot select specific 
>>> text does anybody know how to do this?
>>> Regards Zoe
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[Brett Lewis]

OpenWRT is the most accessible/flexible option, but the learning curve is steep.
SSH access is wonderful but you need some background to effectively use it.
Brett


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> Absolutely, but in my experience, best means the operating system that
> runs on the hardware, not the hardware itself.
> 
> If you want maximum accessibility, you'd be hard pressed to do better
> than Open WRT whose web page is:
> 
> http://openwrt.org
> 
> Currently, I'm using the Linksys WRT1900AC which comes with pretty awful
> software by default, so it may take some sighted assistance to flash the
> OpenWRT firmware onto it. But, the flashing task is actually quite
> straight forward. And, once accomplished, you've a highly accessible
> router/switch/WAP all in one. You can drive it via the web browser of
> your choice, or from a command line via ssh from your Mac terminal. Your
> choice.
> 
> PS: I spent some time last weekend looking at where things have gotten
> to vis a vis the next generation of these devices, those which conform
> to 802.11AX also branded as wifi6. There are some compelling hardware
> choices, but OpenWRT support is still in fairly early development, so
> I'm staying away for the forseeable future. But, I expect the day will
> come when a device like the Linksys MR9600 or the Netgear Nighthawk MK63
> will support OpenWRT. When that day dawns, I'll be a buyer and a
> flasher.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the 
>> Netgear Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes 
>> they have sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app 
>> will allow, And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where 
>> the router is, so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear 
>> the boot. Can anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: How to get chrome on the Mac?

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Hi,
Instructions are here under the Mac heading.
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en-GB
Basically, you download the dmg file and copy the chrome ap to your app folder.
Brett


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> Hi.
>  
> I have a job interview next and need to use chrome to access the video 
> conference.  So how to get this and is chrome easy to use with voice over?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
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Re: mac OS big sur: repeating ping sound

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
This happened to me this morning.
My MacBook just started pinging every few seconds.
Pressing VO+F1 twice showed that there was a system dialog about sending a 
crash report to Apple.
Sending the report resolved the issue.
Just FYI,
Brett


> On Nov 20, 2020, at 2:33 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> If you do vo f1 twice do you have a system notification? Mine was doing this 
> and I realized it was trying to get me to confirm something. Once I did f1 
> twice told it whatever it is gone.
> 
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>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I can understand how this would be annoying. Regretfully, I have not
>> heard such in my Mac experience, so can't give you anything specific. I
>> have two thoughts:
>> 
>> 1.)  Call Apple Support in a manner where they can hear your Mac
>> making that sound. After all, they sold you the machine, right?
>> 
>> 2.)  Pull up a list of processes and start killing them one by one
>> until the sound stops, noting as you go what is running on each pid.
>> 
>> Sorry I can't help further. Good luck on this.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Yuma Decaux writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is the link to the audio:
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d86etaiungfma41/repeated_ping.wav?dl=0 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I mean ping, I don't mean the CL tool to ping servers, but a ping 
>>> sound.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 18 Nov 2020, at 7:55 pm, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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 Hi,
 
 I don't see the link. Could you maybe paste it into the body of the
 message?
 
 Alternative, you might want to search running processes for an instance
 of ping and kill the process id.
 
 The following terminal command may help:
 
 sudo killall ping
 Best,
 
 Janina
 
 
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> 
> I've recorded myself on the system to demonstrate this repeating ping 
> sound that occurs without any input from me, and its starting to drive me 
> absolutely bonkers. it's very disrupting and annoying, and I would really 
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> 
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Re: Question for Focus Blue users

[Brett Lewis]

Hi All:
I am new to the Mac (I have a new Mac book pro 13).
I have been a long time windows user but for work reasons I need to get 
familiar with and productive on a Mac.
This isn’t related to the thread, but just giving some background.
I just tried accessing a BRF file with my new Focus Blue and indeed you get a 
message about unable to edit BRF files  when you type a letter in a BRf file.
Hope this helps.
Brett


> On Nov 19, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I am not sure.
> But I guess you can at least open it.
> /A
> 
>> 18 nov. 2020 kl. 18:19 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So I'm still on the quest for a braille display. Is it really true that on 
>> the Focus Blue 5th gen, that if you open a BRF file, you cannot edit it?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
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