A Possible DAISY Player for Mac

2016-11-24 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, in a recent blog post, I lamented the lack of a DAISY player for 
Mac.
This has resulted in me being contacted by someone fluent in both English and 
German who tells me that there is in fact a DAISY player available. The free 
version allows for playback, and a paid version also provides for DAISY 
production. The default language for the product is German, and from what I can 
gather, the entire website is German as well.
When you install the player, the local system language isn't detected, but I'm 
told that if you can find it in Preferences, English is available. So maybe 
there's further potential here for making this all much easier than it 
currently is. I don't know if the developer is fluent in English, but 
presumably they have someone who is since localisation has been done.
The app is available for multiple platforms at:
http://www.legantoo.de/index.php?menuid=33 
<http://www.legantoo.de/index.php?menuid=33>
and although I'm not a German speaker, I was able to work out  which link is 
for the Mac version. Something for the ambitious among you to play with.
Also since I will soon no longer be using a Mac and will be unsubscribing, this 
is probably my last post here. So I'd like to extend a sincere thanks to those 
who have offered great tips and tricks over the last four years or so that I've 
been subscribed. I appreciate it very much and of course will continue to watch 
developments with Mac via all the tech feeds I subscribe to.
Cheers.

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Re: Trying this again. Wanting to install windows in a boot camp partition from a vm. Can this be done without sited help.

2016-11-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi matthew, I'm afraid not. If you want to make a virtual machine from the 
Bootcamp partition, you have to set up your Bootcamp partition first, including 
getting Windows up and running, then you can use Fusion to create a virtual 
machine to run that partition in MacOS.
This is completely separate from any virtual machine you have now that was 
created from within MacOS.
There's lots of very helpful stuff in the VMWare knowledge-base about this.
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> On 22/11/2016, at 9:32 AM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan, I already have a vm with windows 10.  Are you saying I could tell 
> vmware to create  or install to the boot camp partition?  For some reason I 
> am told that the partition could not be resized or somerthing to that affect. 
>  I am using mac os extended journaled so not sure what is going on though.  I 
> did managed to get windows 10 on to the usb drive.  What is the deal?  Am i 
> missing something.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/21/2016 05:45 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>> Hi Matthew, you first need to set up Bootcamp, then you can use VMWare 
>> Fusion to make a virtual machine from the Bootcamp partition. I've not done 
>> this yet since at present my VM runs side-by-side with OS X, but I've been 
>> reading about this on the VMWare site recently, and it looks quite similar 
>> to setting up any other VM. My hunch is it's doable without sighted 
>> assistance but I don't know for certain.
>> The advantage of it is that when you are using Windows apps that are 
>> resource-intensive or where latency in a standard VM might be an issue, you 
>> can boot fully into Windows. For apps that require authorisation, it looks 
>> like you may need to authorise some of them twice, since effectively they're 
>> two different Windows machines.
>> Would be interesting to know how folks are getting on with this 
>> configuration.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>>> On 21/11/2016, at 5:11 AM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Trying this again as my message bounced when sending this message this 
>>> morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a windows 10 home vm which I want to use in a boot camp partition.  
>>> This can be done without sited help?  I was playing with the boot camp 
>>> assistant lastnight and found that if I have a usb drive connected it will 
>>> download a set of drivers for windows.  I did not see an opsion to hav e it 
>>> install from a vm. I am either missing something or perhaps you get the 
>>> opsion later in the prosses.  Anyone tred this without sited help annd how 
>>> did you do this.  I am using an imac 21 inch with a 1TB HD.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Trying this again. Wanting to install windows in a boot camp partition from a vm. Can this be done without sited help.

2016-11-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Matthew, you first need to set up Bootcamp, then you can use VMWare Fusion 
to make a virtual machine from the Bootcamp partition. I've not done this yet 
since at present my VM runs side-by-side with OS X, but I've been reading about 
this on the VMWare site recently, and it looks quite similar to setting up any 
other VM. My hunch is it's doable without sighted assistance but I don't know 
for certain.
The advantage of it is that when you are using Windows apps that are 
resource-intensive or where latency in a standard VM might be an issue, you can 
boot fully into Windows. For apps that require authorisation, it looks like you 
may need to authorise some of them twice, since effectively they're two 
different Windows machines.
Would be interesting to know how folks are getting on with this configuration.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 21/11/2016, at 5:11 AM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> 
> Trying this again as my message bounced when sending this message this 
> morning.
> 
> 
> I have a windows 10 home vm which I want to use in a boot camp partition.  
> This can be done without sited help?  I was playing with the boot camp 
> assistant lastnight and found that if I have a usb drive connected it will 
> download a set of drivers for windows.  I did not see an opsion to hav e it 
> install from a vm. I am either missing something or perhaps you get the 
> opsion later in the prosses.  Anyone tred this without sited help annd how 
> did you do this.  I am using an imac 21 inch with a 1TB HD.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
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Re: Changed VO behaviour under Sierra with ReadKit

2016-09-30 Thread Jonathan Mosen
No, in the end I resorted to sighted assistance, and it renders differently for 
everyone under Sierra, with no way to change it back. It makes using it far 
less efficient. I also note that Readability is shutting down which Readkit 
uses extensively, so unless the developer comes out with a new version, it 
might be time to go back to Vienna RSS or investigate other options.
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> On 29/09/2016, at 11:10 AM, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was optimistic that I would get this solved. However, it is not happening 
> as of now. Has anyone else come up with a solution?
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
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> Hi everyone, the RSS reader ReadKit is one of my favourite MacOS apps.
> Since upgrading to Sierra, VO has changed the way it speaks in the list of 
> articles. Previously, I would hear the headline, a preview of the article, 
> and then the source, which for me is optimal. Now though, VO is speaking the 
> source of the article first, which is more verbiage to have to listen to 
> before getting to the headline.
> Have had a pretty good play with both ReadKit and VO settings but can't find 
> a way to change it back.
> Has anyone else seen this and found a way around it?
> Thanks,
> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Have any VMWare fusion users found workarounds for remapping their caps key now that Karabiner and Seal don't work on Sierra?

2016-09-24 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I've taken a read of what's available about the new Karabina Elements, as I'm 
really keen to get this functionality back. I wasn't able to work out how to 
create a configuration file that remaps the capslock key. If just one of us 
could get to the bottom of the way to do this, we could make the config file 
available. I've written to the developer but haven't had an answer as yet.

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> On 25/09/2016, at 1:17 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Traci,
> 
> I don’t see why not as this is exactly the kind of use case for Karabiner. 
> But I’m going to wait until the Sierra version is a little more mature before 
> giving it a go as it’s only in the pre-release stage and everything has to be 
> edited manually in configuration files. On their website, there is info that 
> you can read through to learn how to build the configuration files.
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On Saturday September 24, 2016, at 5:13:02 PM, Traci Duncan 
>> <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, would this manual remapping work to remap the right command key into 
>> right control?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Megan,
>>> 
>>> A new version of Karabiner is being developed for Sierra. Currently 
>>> however, you have to remap the key by creating a configuration file 
>>> manually. Here is the info in case you’d like to give it a shot: 
>>> https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements
>>> 
>>> Until it’s released, I’ve gone back to using the accent key as my screen 
>>> reading key as E.T. has suggested. But I really do miss having the caps 
>>> lock key working as the screen reading key.
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday September 24, 2016, at 10:34:59 AM, Megan Bening 
>>>> <meben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all, 
>>>> I did a stupid thing and upgraded to Sierra without properly checking to 
>>>> see whether *everything* worked. I guess it never occurred to me that 
>>>> karabiner and Seil would be the things that would break, but there ya go. 
>>>> Ergo, functionally my virtual machines are broken, since now I can't use 
>>>> the Mac's keyboard to interact with JAWS or NVDA, since my caps remapping 
>>>> is gone. I also used Karabiner to remap my mechanical keyboard at work in 
>>>> some very specific ways, since it's a very strange little keyboard and the 
>>>> layout was just very fiddly, so that's not much fun either. But the upshot 
>>>> is, has anyone found another solution that works for remapping? Ideally, 
>>>> something that still allows me to remap caps lock, since I still actually 
>>>> use some of the other commonly remapped keys like the tilde key, etc. I 
>>>> know I can't be the only person who relies heavily on VMWare and Windows 
>>>> along with Sierra, and someone else must be looking for a solution as 
>>>> well. 
>>>> thanks for any advice! 
>>>> Megan 
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Re: Changed VO behaviour under Sierra with ReadKit

2016-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Thanks Alex, I'll have a play. Are you using another RSS reader?
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> On 21/09/2016, at 1:40 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't currently use that app, but I wonder if that table offers column 
> headers you could re-arrange? Interact with the table and hit 
> vo-shift-backslash. If VO says you're in the headers, you can try dragging 
> them around to re-order them. If that fails, my only other thought is to try 
> dragging around parts of a row in the table, or have a sighted person see if 
> headers exist that Readkit doesn't expose to VoiceOver.
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 15:46, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, the RSS reader ReadKit is one of my favourite MacOS apps.
>> Since upgrading to Sierra, VO has changed the way it speaks in the list of 
>> articles. Previously, I would hear the headline, a preview of the article, 
>> and then the source, which for me is optimal. Now though, VO is speaking the 
>> source of the article first, which is more verbiage to have to listen to 
>> before getting to the headline.
>> Have had a pretty good play with both ReadKit and VO settings but can't find 
>> a way to change it back.
>> Has anyone else seen this and found a way around it?
>> Thanks,
>> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: new os mail bug.

2016-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Confirmed and it's really annoying.
One thing that helps a little is the return of preview when you're arrowing 
through an open conversation. This means I don't have to open every message and 
lose my place.
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> On 21/09/2016, at 8:04 AM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.  Now that os 10.12 is out I can safely share a bug in mail that has 
> been driving me crazy since the beta.  While in threaded view, voice over 
> will jump you to the last message in an expanded thread.  For example, if you 
> are looking at a thread with 12 messages and you delete say the first message 
> in the thread, you will be taken to the last message in the thread and you 
> will have to go back to the top.  If you  are on a thread with 2 message, you 
> are placed either in the next thread or message depending on if it is a group 
> of message or a single message and again this is after you delete the message 
> in the thread.  If anyone else is seeing this is there a way to get around 
> this without disabling conversation view?  I am going to cc accessibility at 
> apple on this so they can see this as well.  I had reported this in the beta 
> cycle, but still is not fixed.
> 
> Matthew
> 
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Changed VO behaviour under Sierra with ReadKit

2016-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, the RSS reader ReadKit is one of my favourite MacOS apps.
Since upgrading to Sierra, VO has changed the way it speaks in the list of 
articles. Previously, I would hear the headline, a preview of the article, and 
then the source, which for me is optimal. Now though, VO is speaking the source 
of the article first, which is more verbiage to have to listen to before 
getting to the headline.
Have had a pretty good play with both ReadKit and VO settings but can't find a 
way to change it back.
Has anyone else seen this and found a way around it?
Thanks,
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Seil is not Sierra Compatible at this point

2016-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi folks, the Mosen Consulting blog has a post on this, but for those who 
haven't seen it, many VMWare Fusion users enjoy the use of an app called Seil, 
which allows you to use the Caps Lock key as the JAWS key in Windows. 
With just a few hours to go as I write this until the release of Sierra, a 
Sierra-compatible version of Seil has not been released.
This means that you'll lose this functionality, at least for now, if you 
upgrade. You'll instead need to use something else like Sharp Keys or the key 
remapping functions of Fusion itself, neither of which allow you to use the 
Caps Lock key as a screen reader key.
I'm really hoping a Sierra-compatible version is in the works.

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Re: Audio of my iPhone 7 Plus unboxing/familiarisation

2016-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Brian, positioned correctly, you can definitely hear the stereo separation, 
and with the 7 Plus the speakers are a little wider apart which may help. The 
audio is definitely better, and I think will help when listening to podcasts 
etc, but sure, you'd want something far better for serious music listening.
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> On 17/09/2016, at 4:46 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Jonathan,
> 
> Have not gotten a chance to listen to your pod yet. MY iPhone 7 arrived this 
> morning, and my main reason for upgrading was the stereo speakers, but I got 
> to tell you at first listen they are barely louder than the 6s individual 
> speaker. With VO I barely notice a difference in how much louder the 7 is, 
> and with music it is a little louder but not what I had hoped for. You are 
> still going to want to use your good bluetooth speakers. Curious what other 
> people’s first thoughts are of the stereo speakers. Thanks,
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was torn between silver which matches the platinum watch I have or gold 
>> which matches another watch I have. The only problem is when I made that 
>> decision I realized that I have only been wearing steel apple watches since 
>> they came out so it doesn’t matter any more.:)  I see why Rolex’s sales are 
>> down 30% this year and they had to buy back their inventory from a lot of 
>> distributors.  Everyone is wearing Fit Bit or apple watches now.  The trendy 
>> and high end markets are no longer high end swiss watches made with rare 
>> elements, it’s high tech.  For people wondering if the Apple Watch was a 
>> success or if it’s a game changer, Ask Rolex, Patek, Tag or any of them how 
>> it’s going?  :)  I have one watch that lost $40,000 in value over the last 
>> year on the resale market.  I’m sure it will recover but isn’t it funny how 
>> quietly that happened.  Sort of like a certain phone started to catch on 9 
>> years ago when Blackberry was king.
>> 
>> Apple has a way of creating these trends and shocking different markets.  
>> I’m not sure how much is artificially created by limiting preproduction and 
>> creating a pent up demand or if they really do get swamped with orders but 
>> what ever, it works, stocks at a 10 month high now heading towards all time 
>> high.
>> 
>> Go Mr. Cook!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My shipping estimate from T mobile is anywhere from September 26 through 
>>> October 10. I would've been happy with space gray, but they got rid of it, 
>>> so I went for Matt black. Obviously, since I can't see, I don't care about 
>>> color. But sighted friends tell me that the matblack will show the fewest 
>>> fingerprints and dirt. Works for me.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:25 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mary, you had to be one of the cool kids and get the black model.:)
>>>> 
>>>> I heard it’s back ordered until October, true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh good. Looking forward to it. Even though my phone is a few weeks away.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone, following on from our wrap of last week's Apple event, this 
>>>>>> week's episode of The Blind Side Podcast features a comprehensive 
>>>>>> unboxing, setting up, and then exploration of the new iPhone 7 Plus.
>>>>>> If you'd like to take a listen, subscribe to The Blind Side Podcast in 
>>>>>> any good podcatcher, or you can hear it on Sound Cloud via this URL.
>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/theblindsidepodcast/episode6 
>>>>>> <https://soundcloud.com/theblindsidepodcast/episode6>
>>>>>> Hope you find it interesting.
>>&g

Re: Audio of my iPhone 7 Plus unboxing/familiarisation

2016-09-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Simon, this is all covered in the podcast. I prefer the plus models because 
of the superior battery life and more real estate for Braille screen input, 
which is how I get data into the phone when I'm not using a Braille display.
KNFB Reader seems accurate, and very fast.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 16/09/2016, at 8:07 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
>  
> Just wondering a couple of things,
>  
> Firstly why did you go for the 7+ over the 7?
>  
> And 2, which you may not yet have tested but Word on KNFB reader quality of 
> scanning a document etc using the dual cameras within the 7+
>  I’d be interested to know how that goes whether scan is better or worse 
> quality of pickup / out put.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon F
>  
>  
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> Subject: Audio of my iPhone 7 Plus unboxing/familiarisation
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> Hi everyone, following on from our wrap of last week's Apple event, this 
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Audio of my iPhone 7 Plus unboxing/familiarisation

2016-09-15 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, following on from our wrap of last week's Apple event, this week's 
episode of The Blind Side Podcast features a comprehensive unboxing, setting 
up, and then exploration of the new iPhone 7 Plus.
If you'd like to take a listen, subscribe to The Blind Side Podcast in any good 
podcatcher, or you can hear it on Sound Cloud via this URL.
https://soundcloud.com/theblindsidepodcast/episode6 
<https://soundcloud.com/theblindsidepodcast/episode6>
Hope you find it interesting.
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Re: watch os 3 powering off

2016-09-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sarai, you press it long enough to invoke the power off screen, but not so 
long that it invokes the SOS function.
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> On 15/09/2016, at 3:07 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
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> Hi:
> I know the long press of friends button use to power off the watch, and now 
> it starts SOS. How do you turn off the watch now?
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: watch os 3

2016-09-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Juan, did you try powering your watch off and then on again? This did the 
job for someone I was assisting yesterday.
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> On 15/09/2016, at 12:31 AM, Juan Hernandez <juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi All,
>  
> I can’t seem to get my apple watch to upgrade.  Everytime I go to software 
> update, it says that watch os 2.2.2 is the latest version.  Anyone have any 
> ideas about how to get it to up to watch os 3?
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Juan
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Do I want to update or not?

2016-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Donna, depending on when it was that you got your last phone, it may have 
been because there was an OS update rather quickly. I believe it was iOS 8 
where they pushed out an update very quickly, then had to pull it and release 
another one because they broke LTE.
In that case, the OS you got on your new phone will have been older than the OS 
on the old, unless you first updated. Hopefully that won't happen this time 
around.
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> On 14/09/2016, at 5:47 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
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> Hi Tim and Jonathan,
> 
> thanks for this.  I honestly don't remember how it is that my new phone had 
> an older version, my memory is that I upgraded on the day it was released, so 
> I was thinking that the 7 would ship with IOS 9.  But I could be wrong about 
> the upgrade timeframe.  Anyway, I appreciate the feedback, so I guess I'll 
> just have to see how impatient I am to get my hands on IOS 10.1. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> Hi Donna, your iPhone 7 will ship with iOS 10.0.1, so I can't see a reason 
>> why both devices being on the same OS would be a problem.
>> But if you're updating on Friday, restoring from a backup made on the iOS 
>> you have now should be fine. It's only when you try to restore to an older 
>> OS version from a newer one that the universe objects.
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>>> On 14/09/2016, at 5:32 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting my iPhone 7 this Friday.  I have a recollection that when I got 
>>> my last phone, I had an issue because I'd already updated my old phone to 
>>> the new IOS version.  So I'm thinking that this time I want to skip 
>>> upgrading my current phone.  Am I thinking about this correctly?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Do I want to update or not?

2016-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Donna, your iPhone 7 will ship with iOS 10.0.1, so I can't see a reason why 
both devices being on the same OS would be a problem.
But if you're updating on Friday, restoring from a backup made on the iOS you 
have now should be fine. It's only when you try to restore to an older OS 
version from a newer one that the universe objects.
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> On 14/09/2016, at 5:32 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm getting my iPhone 7 this Friday.  I have a recollection that when I got 
> my last phone, I had an issue because I'd already updated my old phone to the 
> new IOS version.  So I'm thinking that this time I want to skip upgrading my 
> current phone.  Am I thinking about this correctly?
> TIA,
> Donna
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VmWare Fusion 8.5 is out. Free, Sierra Compatible

2016-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, here's VMWare's blog post.
http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2016/09/fusion-8-5-available-now.html
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Re: Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Belkin have just announced an adapter. It's a bit unwieldy in that it has two 
Lightning female connectors and another connector that plugs into the Lightning 
port of your phone. So you'll need to have a Lightning to 3.5 adapter plugged 
into one of the female Lightning ports just to use the wired headphones that 
once plugged into the jack. It's a lot of bits you could lose, but I guess it's 
something.
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> On 9/09/2016, at 8:21 AM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
> 
> How hard would it be to design or adapt something.  Seems to be a ready 
> market.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 13:16, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Because at the time that post was written, no such Splitter had been 
>> announced.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 9/09/2016, at 8:14 AM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com 
>>> <mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why not use a splitter?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:23, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net 
>>>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> this is why they should have used Micro USB as the standard originally 
>>>> like all other manufacturers. USB C will be the next standard, I guess it 
>>>> will eventually replace micro USB, will probably take some getting used 
>>>> to, but at least it will be a standard. As far as I know, Apple is the 
>>>> only company that uses nonstandard ports on their devices. Almost every 
>>>> other manufacturer uses either micro USB or mini USB for their phones, 
>>>> tablets and other portable devices.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> I completely agree Mike. We've headed down a dangerous path where an 
>>>>> open, ubiquitous standard has been replaced in part by a proprietary 
>>>>> port. USB C would have been preferable, although you can understand that 
>>>>> with Apple having invested so much in the Lightning ecosystem, replacing 
>>>>> the jack and the Lightning port would have been very...courageous.
>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> <http://mosen.org 
>>>>> <http://mosen.org/>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/09/2016, at 3:44 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net> <mailto:n0...@charter.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even for a third party company to address it, Apple would need to approve 
>>>>> the accessory, this is one reason why they use the lightning interface 
>>>>> instead of standard USB connections. Every lightning device contains a 
>>>>> chip that indicates that it's approved. If Apple decides they don't like 
>>>>> a particular company's product, they can refuse to provide the chip and 
>>>>> the device will not work. It will be interesting to see if they ever 
>>>>> embrace the up coming standard USB C interface or stick with their 
>>>>> proprietary, nonstandard ways of doing things. That is one of my biggest 
>>>>> pet peeves about Apple.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 
>>>>> 2015 and in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple 
>>>>> news sources today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to 
>>>>> use your phone and charge it at the same time.
>>>>> The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
>>>>> fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't 
>>>>> respond quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if 
>>>>> the spec permits.
>>>>> In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these 
>>>>> are at all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they 
>>>>> might allow you to mak

Re: Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Because at the time that post was written, no such Splitter had been announced.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 9/09/2016, at 8:14 AM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
> 
> Why not use a splitter?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:23, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> this is why they should have used Micro USB as the standard originally like 
>> all other manufacturers. USB C will be the next standard, I guess it will 
>> eventually replace micro USB, will probably take some getting used to, but 
>> at least it will be a standard. As far as I know, Apple is the only company 
>> that uses nonstandard ports on their devices. Almost every other 
>> manufacturer uses either micro USB or mini USB for their phones, tablets and 
>> other portable devices.
>> Original message:
>>> I completely agree Mike. We've headed down a dangerous path where an open, 
>>> ubiquitous standard has been replaced in part by a proprietary port. USB C 
>>> would have been preferable, although you can understand that with Apple 
>>> having invested so much in the Lightning ecosystem, replacing the jack and 
>>> the Lightning port would have been very...courageous.
>> 
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 9/09/2016, at 3:44 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net 
>>>> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even for a third party company to address it, Apple would need to approve 
>>> the accessory, this is one reason why they use the lightning interface 
>>> instead of standard USB connections. Every lightning device contains a chip 
>>> that indicates that it's approved. If Apple decides they don't like a 
>>> particular company's product, they can refuse to provide the chip and the 
>>> device will not work. It will be interesting to see if they ever embrace 
>>> the up coming standard USB C interface or stick with their proprietary, 
>>> nonstandard ways of doing things. That is one of my biggest pet peeves 
>>> about Apple.
>>> Original message:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 2015 
>>> and in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple news 
>>> sources today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to use 
>>> your phone and charge it at the same time.
>>> The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
>>> fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't respond 
>>> quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if the spec 
>>> permits.
>>> In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these 
>>> are at all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they might 
>>> allow you to make do for a bit.
>>> 1. Those of you who listened to the recap of the Apple event on The Blind 
>>> Side with Jeff Bishop, David Woodbridge and me may have heard this one 
>>> already. David pointed out that the Apple Battery Case for the iPhone will 
>>> give your phone a recharge, and it contains its own Lightning port. This 
>>> means that if you want to use your phone with wired headphones while 
>>> charging, you can, by plugging Apple's supplied Lightning adapter into the 
>>> case, then your headphones into the adapter.
>>> Second, Apple sells a Lightning Dock in its store for $49. This will charge 
>>> your phone, provide speakers, and it contains a 3.5 mm headphone jack. If 
>>> you charge your phone by the bed and just want to use it there, or perhaps 
>>> you use it at the office where it's plugged in, this could work.
>>> Third, a number of manufacturers, such as Griffin, sell a 3.5 to Bluetooth 
>>> adapter. This could introduce the dreaded lag inherent in many Bluetooth 
>>> audio devices with VO, but I guess the only way we'll know that is to try 
>>> them. They may get you by while you get a quick charge.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> These are convoluted solutions for dealing with a use case that is pretty 
>>> basic for any decent smartphone, but if wireless earbuds aren't an option 
>>> for you, as they are not for me, they seem to be all we have at present.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>

Re: Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I have an Anka 20,000 MA battery for my long international flights, but of 
course I can't use wired headphones with the iPhone 7 and use that. A pretty 
basic use case for a frequent international traveller.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 9/09/2016, at 4:30 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I don’t want to have a case on as it makes the phone much bigger.
> I had an anker lipstick battery but gave it away.
> I have another wich i use but it can only do one and a half charge on the 
> iphone.
> So i am deffinitly looking for something good.
> /A
>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 17:25, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess this is why they say "different strokes." I definitely use a battery 
>> case. Of course, I'm not flying on a plane for 12 hours at a time. I'm just 
>> trying to get through a day of very heavy phone use, and I'm not always near 
>> a plug. So for me, a battery case is the height of convenience. The nice 
>> thing about some battery cases is that they can be recharged independently 
>> of the phone. Naturally, that means you have to take the case off of the 
>> phone. But  that's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned. I was very 
>> disappointed with the last case from mophi that I had, because you could not 
>> charge it independently of the phone. Crappy design. And I don't know about 
>> the one from Apple. I have one from a third-party that I purchased on a deal 
>> from Amazon sometime ago. It has worked quite well, and was inexpensive.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mary, I detest a case of all kind, so I've not used any, let alone a 
>>> battery one. But if there are multiple cases of this kind then I definitely 
>>> need to come up to speed. Course, then you have to charge the case when 
>>> that goes flat, so it's all a hassle but it is what it is.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> On 9/09/2016, at 3:09 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  If the solution proposed by David works with the Apple case, I assume 
>>>> that it will also work with third-party cases, which will probably be 
>>>> better value, i.e. cost less and have more battery in them. For  people, 
>>>> who use these battery cases, this will be a good solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 
>>>>> 2015 and in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple 
>>>>> news sources today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to 
>>>>> use your phone and charge it at the same time.
>>>>> The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
>>>>> fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't 
>>>>> respond quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if 
>>>>> the spec permits.
>>>>> In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these 
>>>>> are at all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they 
>>>>> might allow you to make do for a bit.
>>>>> 1. Those of you who listened to the recap of the Apple event on The Blind 
>>>>> Side with Jeff Bishop, David Woodbridge and me may have heard this one 
>>>>> already. David pointed out that the Apple Battery Case for the iPhone 
>>>>> will give your phone a recharge, and it contains its own Lightning port. 
>>>>> This means that if you want to use your phone with wired headphones while 
>>>>> charging, you can, by plugging Apple's supplied Lightning adapter into 
>>>>> the case, then your headphones into the adapter.
>>>>> Second, Apple sells a Lightning Dock in its store for $49. This will 
>>>>> charge your phone, provide speakers, and it contains a 3.5 mm headphone 
>>>>> jack. If you c

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Since the subject line of this thread is factually incorrect at present, might 
be useful to change it.
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Re: Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I completely agree Mike. We've headed down a dangerous path where an open, 
ubiquitous standard has been replaced in part by a proprietary port. USB C 
would have been preferable, although you can understand that with Apple having 
invested so much in the Lightning ecosystem, replacing the jack and the 
Lightning port would have been very...courageous.
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> On 9/09/2016, at 3:44 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Even for a third party company to address it, Apple would need to approve the 
> accessory, this is one reason why they use the lightning interface instead of 
> standard USB connections. Every lightning device contains a chip that 
> indicates that it's approved. If Apple decides they don't like a particular 
> company's product, they can refuse to provide the chip and the device will 
> not work. It will be interesting to see if they ever embrace the up coming 
> standard USB C interface or stick with their proprietary, nonstandard ways of 
> doing things. That is one of my biggest pet peeves about Apple.
> Original message:
>> Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 2015 
>> and in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple news 
>> sources today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to use your 
>> phone and charge it at the same time.
>> The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
>> fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't respond 
>> quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if the spec 
>> permits.
>> In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these are 
>> at all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they might allow 
>> you to make do for a bit.
>> 1. Those of you who listened to the recap of the Apple event on The Blind 
>> Side with Jeff Bishop, David Woodbridge and me may have heard this one 
>> already. David pointed out that the Apple Battery Case for the iPhone will 
>> give your phone a recharge, and it contains its own Lightning port. This 
>> means that if you want to use your phone with wired headphones while 
>> charging, you can, by plugging Apple's supplied Lightning adapter into the 
>> case, then your headphones into the adapter.
>> Second, Apple sells a Lightning Dock in its store for $49. This will charge 
>> your phone, provide speakers, and it contains a 3.5 mm headphone jack. If 
>> you charge your phone by the bed and just want to use it there, or perhaps 
>> you use it at the office where it's plugged in, this could work.
>> Third, a number of manufacturers, such as Griffin, sell a 3.5 to Bluetooth 
>> adapter. This could introduce the dreaded lag inherent in many Bluetooth 
>> audio devices with VO, but I guess the only way we'll know that is to try 
>> them. They may get you by while you get a quick charge.
> 
>> These are convoluted solutions for dealing with a use case that is pretty 
>> basic for any decent smartphone, but if wireless earbuds aren't an option 
>> for you, as they are not for me, they seem to be all we have at present.
> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>
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Re: Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, I detest a case of all kind, so I've not used any, let alone a battery 
one. But if there are multiple cases of this kind then I definitely need to 
come up to speed. Course, then you have to charge the case when that goes flat, 
so it's all a hassle but it is what it is.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 9/09/2016, at 3:09 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  If the solution proposed by David works with the Apple case, I assume that 
> it will also work with third-party cases, which will probably be better 
> value, i.e. cost less and have more battery in them. For  people, who use 
> these battery cases, this will be a good solution.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 2015 
>> and in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple news 
>> sources today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to use your 
>> phone and charge it at the same time.
>> The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
>> fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't respond 
>> quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if the spec 
>> permits.
>> In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these are 
>> at all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they might allow 
>> you to make do for a bit.
>> 1. Those of you who listened to the recap of the Apple event on The Blind 
>> Side with Jeff Bishop, David Woodbridge and me may have heard this one 
>> already. David pointed out that the Apple Battery Case for the iPhone will 
>> give your phone a recharge, and it contains its own Lightning port. This 
>> means that if you want to use your phone with wired headphones while 
>> charging, you can, by plugging Apple's supplied Lightning adapter into the 
>> case, then your headphones into the adapter.
>> Second, Apple sells a Lightning Dock in its store for $49. This will charge 
>> your phone, provide speakers, and it contains a 3.5 mm headphone jack. If 
>> you charge your phone by the bed and just want to use it there, or perhaps 
>> you use it at the office where it's plugged in, this could work.
>> Third, a number of manufacturers, such as Griffin, sell a 3.5 to Bluetooth 
>> adapter. This could introduce the dreaded lag inherent in many Bluetooth 
>> audio devices with VO, but I guess the only way we'll know that is to try 
>> them. They may get you by while you get a quick charge.
>> 
>> These are convoluted solutions for dealing with a use case that is pretty 
>> basic for any decent smartphone, but if wireless earbuds aren't an option 
>> for you, as they are not for me, they seem to be all we have at present.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
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Strategies for Charging your iPhone 7 while using wired Headphones

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, unfortunately as I predicted in my blog post of November 2015 and 
in subsequent posts on this, as has been confirmed by multiple news sources 
today, Apple has not released an adapter that allows you to use your phone and 
charge it at the same time.
The reaction to this lack of addressing of an important use case has been 
fierce even among sighted people. Hopefully if Apple itself doesn't respond 
quickly, a third-party manufacturer will address this use case if the spec 
permits.
In the mean time, here are a couple of work-arounds. I don't think these are at 
all adequate, but if you need to upgrade to an iPhone 7, they might allow you 
to make do for a bit.
1. Those of you who listened to the recap of the Apple event on The Blind Side 
with Jeff Bishop, David Woodbridge and me may have heard this one already. 
David pointed out that the Apple Battery Case for the iPhone will give your 
phone a recharge, and it contains its own Lightning port. This means that if 
you want to use your phone with wired headphones while charging, you can, by 
plugging Apple's supplied Lightning adapter into the case, then your headphones 
into the adapter.
Second, Apple sells a Lightning Dock in its store for $49. This will charge 
your phone, provide speakers, and it contains a 3.5 mm headphone jack. If you 
charge your phone by the bed and just want to use it there, or perhaps you use 
it at the office where it's plugged in, this could work.
Third, a number of manufacturers, such as Griffin, sell a 3.5 to Bluetooth 
adapter. This could introduce the dreaded lag inherent in many Bluetooth audio 
devices with VO, but I guess the only way we'll know that is to try them. They 
may get you by while you get a quick charge.

These are convoluted solutions for dealing with a use case that is pretty basic 
for any decent smartphone, but if wireless earbuds aren't an option for you, as 
they are not for me, they seem to be all we have at present.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
port.
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> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

2016-09-07 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, that's correct. The adapter that ships with the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 
does not allow you to charge at the same time as you have wired headphones 
plugged in.
I've had this verified by sighted people who saw the adapter displayed on the 
keynote, and looked at the adapter on Apple's site.
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> On 8/09/2016, at 10:10 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Over on the iPhone list, there are people saying that the pictures of 
> the adapter that's going to come with the new iPhone 7 do not show the 
> ability to plug in headphones and charger at the same time. Since this is a 
> big deal, or has been made an even bigger deal now, I would be curious for 
> those of you who say that it's possible to explain how. Is there a splitter? 
> I'm just trying to figure out why the images on apples own website would 
> appear to show just the one plug for lightning and the one for the 
> headphones, not any kind of splitter making charging possible. Not trying to 
> start a war. Just trying to understand how it will work. For my personal use 
> case, it's not a big deal. I can't remember ever charging my phone and using 
> wired headphones at the same time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well i was not worried about it.
>> But the price is to high.
>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>> Man this is really cool.
>> /A
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>> 
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device has a 
3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using Bluetooth 4.1. So 
depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we could hit the latency 
issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices.
If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around of 
sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where you 
have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents 
progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between charges 
may not be that long.
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> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone 
> jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any 3.5MM 
>> headphone in to a blue tooth set.  They will sell it for 19.99 I believe.
>> 
>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter
>> 
>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at least 
>> someone is trying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who had 
>>> a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both 
>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. 
>>> 
>>> Take care 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge 
>>>> negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the 
>>>> inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and 
>>>> reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. 
>>>> I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about 
>>>> the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I 
>>>> suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of 
>>>> upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will 
>>>> cause a lot of people to sit it out.
>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, 
>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging 
>>>> about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time 
>>>> when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that 
>>>> blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of the 
>>>> accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I 
>>>> would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can 
>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, even 
>>>> when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid 
>>>> pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really upsetting. 
>>>> For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these days, 
>>>> and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad.
>>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid 
>>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all 
>>>> the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone 
>>>> who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to 
>>>> improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's 
>>>> difficult to get through an entire business day of use without the need to 
>>>> charge something.
>>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then 
>>>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, 
>>>> stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which 
>&

Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
hi David, there is certainly some bullying and personal attack that goes on 
here, but sadly that's the nature of a lot of email lists. People think they 
can drown people out because they have nothing better to do than to post 
multiple messages that become increasingly personal as the flaws in their 
argument are exposed. Personal attack is always the resort of those whose 
argument is weak.
What I will say to you though is that as you can see from the list, there are a 
number of us who have been trying to make a difference, hopefully to fend off a 
situation where we have to wait some time before our use case is addressed. I 
hope very much we've succeeded. If not, we keep going.
It was interesting to read a piece yesterday that backed up something I said on 
my own blog earlier this year. I feel sure that Apple has leaked the 
information about the lack of a headphone jack deliberately. They know it's a 
contentious issue, even among those who don't get their entire screen output 
via it as we do. They're hoping that by letting it leak, the majority of the 
anger will have subsided by release time. After all, it's an unusual situation 
where the thing most people are talking about is actually the removal of 
something, not a great new feature.
Apple do miscalculate from time to time and it's possible they have done so 
this time. Even if that proves not to be the case, Apple must obey the law like 
everyone else, and there is legislation like section 255 of the US 
Telecommunications Act that may make legal action possible if Apple makes 
things less accessible for a vulnerable group of users. Each country also has 
its own legislation.
In the end, what people say on this list makes not a scrap of difference and 
I've been focussing my energies on preparing for what I can do if we as blind 
hearing aid wearers can't use VO and charge our devices at the same time. I 
spoke up because I knew that there would be people here who were intimidated by 
some of the dismissive language, and I'm glad it's made you feel like you have 
people who get your needs.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 3/09/2016, at 6:24 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I believe this is the arrogrant person  who described me as a troll because I 
> tried to represent the issues of hearing impaired issues so I am not at all 
> surprised by the ignorance and callousness of this reply to Jonathon.
> 
> 
> Heaven help us if this is how members of our community turn of on deaf users.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 02/09/2016 13:35, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Jonathan, now you’re just writing stuff to read it later, that’s just nutty. 
>>  You make it like some huge personal assault against the great and mighty 
>> Jonathan Mosen, please, we’ve seen an adapter is going to exist so you have 
>> your precious 1960s technology.
>>  
>> 
>> In the end, probably 3 people are going to care about this issue over all 
>> and all 3 are on this list.:)
>> 
>> The average consumer doesn’t care what shape or size plug they use as long 
>> as when they plug it in the little light goes on and stuff works.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keep fighting the good fight David. This is far too important an issue to 
>>> give up. Our money is as good as anyone else's and we must never give up 
>>> advocating for recognition of our need to be able to use our devices with 
>>> efficiency and privacy while also charging them. If it turns out that this 
>>> need has been met, then it will in part be due to courageous people like 
>>> you who have spoken up.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> On 2/09/2016, at 11:05 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As another deaf iPhone user I agree with everything you say but I htink 
>>>> you will probably not get that much understanding.  I tried to explain on 
>>>> this list about how a wired headset was essential for me but was accused 
>>>> bizarrely of being a troll because I dared to criticise an Apple 
>>>> innovation.
>>>> This did cause another another poster to comment that ironically some 
>>>> people are deaf to the concerns of those of with hearing impairments.
>>>> 
>>>> David Griffith
>>>> 
>>>> On 01/09/2016 20:07, Jonathan Mosen w

Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Keep fighting the good fight David. This is far too important an issue to give 
up. Our money is as good as anyone else's and we must never give up advocating 
for recognition of our need to be able to use our devices with efficiency and 
privacy while also charging them. If it turns out that this need has been met, 
then it will in part be due to courageous people like you who have spoken up.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 2/09/2016, at 11:05 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As another deaf iPhone user I agree with everything you say but I htink you 
> will probably not get that much understanding.  I tried to explain on this 
> list about how a wired headset was essential for me but was accused bizarrely 
> of being a troll because I dared to criticise an Apple innovation.
> This did cause another another poster to comment that ironically some people 
> are deaf to the concerns of those of with hearing impairments.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 01/09/2016 20:07, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>> Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the 
>> same way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent 
>> latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority 
>> makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options 
>> under legislation here.
>> A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a 
>> blind person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution 
>> is being used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call 
>> or isn't listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very 
>> little energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're 
>> using their device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, 
>> so the impact is much greater.
>> Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone 
>> with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve 
>> the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use 
>> headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with 
>> flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and 
>> charge the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight 
>> entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I 
>> reach my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you 
>> can either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both.
>> That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to 
>> have to choose between privacy and charge.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it 
>>> means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use  hearing 
>>> aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on 
>>> Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if 
>>> they didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing 
>>> aids. The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the 
>>> blind community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for 
>>> people who use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I 
>>> remember sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away 
>>> first came out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on 
>>> this subject, arguing that this was a very bad idea because of the use case 
>>> of hearing aids. Now Apple is going to do it anyway, but they're offering 
>>> an adapter. Why doesn't that solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth 
>>> is not a good alternative, given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and 
>>> the well-known problem for voiceover users with latency. It's still really 
>>> bad, at least on my phone with my  legend. I would not want to have to type 
>>> on that system for anything more than a word or two, because the latency 
>>> between when you touch a letter and when you hear it is much too long.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados &

Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, one can only hope. And that's why all the agitation, the online 
petition that gained over 300,000 signatures, and the publicity has been so 
important. It was absolutely critical to raise these issues at a time when 
design tweaks could be made, which is precisely why I raised the alarm back in 
December when it was pretty clear this was coming. That's how effective 
advocacy works, you have to know when the process can be influenced and act 
then, not when it's too late.
A number of us have raised these issues at a senior level and now that the jack 
has gone, we have to have everything crossed that this use case has been 
accounted for. If it comes down to elegance versus convenience, that's a very 
different matter from being shut out of a product because of a serious 
accessibility constraint. If the accessibility constraint is a reality, then 
all we can do is hope that the convenience factor is so significant that 
there's a significant backlash.
I may not upgrade to the iPhone 7 even if you can charge and use wired 
headphones at the same time, but it would be good to have the same choice to 
make that decision as everyone else.
Thanks for your understanding and compassion. It's comforting to know some 
people do get it. For those of us who depend on these devices for our 
livelihood, it's a tense week ahead as we find out just what they've done.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 2/09/2016, at 9:31 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for refreshing my memory about the special circumstances, Jonathan. I 
> can only hope that Apple does the right thing and comes out with a way to 
> enable simultaneous charging and headphone usage. I am obviously not a 
> designer, but it seems like it Ohta be possible to make something like that. 
> I mean, why not? If the audio and the power are all coming from that one 
> place, why couldn't they make something with two connectors? No, it wouldn't 
> be pretty or elegant. But if it worked, that would be the main thing, 
> wouldn't it? If they are in fact committed to accessibility, and design of 
> such a device as possible and reasonable, then they ought to do it. They do a 
> lot of other things that are not necessary at all. Just I candy.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the 
>> same way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent 
>> latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority 
>> makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options 
>> under legislation here.
>> A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a 
>> blind person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution 
>> is being used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call 
>> or isn't listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very 
>> little energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're 
>> using their device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, 
>> so the impact is much greater.
>> Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone 
>> with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve 
>> the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use 
>> headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with 
>> flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and 
>> charge the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight 
>> entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I 
>> reach my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you 
>> can either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both.
>> That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to 
>> have to choose between privacy and charge.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it 
>>> means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use  hearing 
>>> aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on 
>>> Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wou

Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the same 
way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent 
latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority 
makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options 
under legislation here.
A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a blind 
person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution is being 
used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call or isn't 
listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very little 
energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're using their 
device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, so the impact 
is much greater.
Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone with 
its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve the 
problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use 
headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with 
flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and charge 
the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight 
entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I reach 
my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you can either 
listen to wired headphones or charge, not both.
That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to have 
to choose between privacy and charge.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means 
> that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use  hearing aids on 
> iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's 
> part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they 
> didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. The 
> hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind 
> community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who 
> use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember 
> sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came 
> out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that 
> this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple 
> is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that 
> solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, 
> given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and the well-known problem for 
> voiceover users with latency. It's still really bad, at least on my phone 
> with my  legend. I would not want to have to type on that system for anything 
> more than a word or two, because the latency between when you touch a letter 
> and when you hear it is much too long.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, you’re exactly right and points well stated as always.  Here’s another 
>> point to consider, suppose we add wireless charging. Now, you could have a 
>> brick with no ports what so ever formed from one solid piece of material.  
>> You could almost grow the casing and have a super durable waterproof phone 
>> with no openings at all.  The entire surface could be a screen.  Not needing 
>> ports is a good thing over all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the 
>>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage 
>>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the 
>>> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the 
>>> new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use 
>>> other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect 
>>> that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other 
>>> device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. 
>>> In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack 
>>> on the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>

Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven

2016-09-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge 
negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the 
inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and 
reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm 
the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the removal 
of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect based on what 
has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental 
that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out.
That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because one 
thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the 
possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may have 
made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might be any 
more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of others, such as 
the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that since we know what 
impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the 
needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has 
proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really 
upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these 
days, and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad.
As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid wearer, 
i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all the time I 
use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone who moves 
through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, Bluetooth 
drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult to get 
through an entire business day of use without the need to charge something.
And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then 
charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, 
stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which parades 
their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, appears to be 
about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market.
Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And they're 
going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in time, a 
USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully managed 
industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. It's using 
a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal computers, 
meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. 
That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry around with you, 
unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to 
charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd.
I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple 
over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them a 
great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily use. 
Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be stuck. 
Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is certainly going 
to be a backlash.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an active 
> role in what the future brings.  We, as consumers, have alternatives and it's 
> when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay attention.  
> 
> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous 
> decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so 
> certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so.
> 
> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would 
> change the lives of the world.  Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't 
> changed one bit either with or without it.  
> 
> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow 
> Apple's lead in the coming future.  As one of the executives of Samsung 
> recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows." 
> 
> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see.  Fortunately for me, 
> I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device just 
> because it is the latest.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update compatibility with VMWare Fusion

2016-08-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Grant, it's good that you managed to get the update to work. You've been 
given a lot of advice here that, while applicable to upgrading from previous 
versions of Windows to Windows 10, is unlikely to be the cause of the problem 
you're having.
As Noel correctly said, there are two ways you can update from the previous 
version of Windows 10 to the Anniversary update. The first is to wait for it to 
be pushed to you. Microsoft is rolling this out over time, and seems to be 
pushing it to newer devices first.
The second way is to check for updates, and upon finding that no updates are 
available, choose the Learn More link. At that point, a web page will open, and 
give you a link to download the Anniversary Update. This downloads a small 
executable. When you run it, it will do a compatibility check. There is a bug 
in this code, which Microsoft is now aware of, that erroneously flags assistive 
technologies that use display drivers as incompatible, and this will cause the 
process to exit.
Microsoft engineers are working on a fix. This affects JAWS and Window-eyes, 
and it probably affects magnification packages that use the same kind of 
hooking.
The work-arounds are either to wait until the update gets pushed to you, in 
which case it will go smoothly although it's a long process, or you can disable 
the display driver for your assistive technology, run narrator, complete the 
upgrade and enable the driver after the upgrade.

Jonathan Mosen
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> On 5/08/2016, at 11:16 AM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I have now managed to complete the upgrade by uninstalling the VMWare tools, 
> mounting the ISO image, and running Windows setup. I was not prompted to 
> re-enter a product key, and the upgrade finished smoothly. I have reinstalled 
> VMWare Tools and everything seems to be in order.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On Wednesday August 3, 2016, at 11:30:52 AM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:grant.li...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I believe this article applies to installing Windows 10 overtop of Windows 
>> 7, 8 or 8.1. So I’m not sure it applies in this case? Still, I am 
>> downloading the ISO file right now and will try installing overtop to see if 
>> the process works. I’ve uninstalled VMWare Tools. Will keep you posted.
>> 
>> In terms of the product key though, that definitely shouldn’t be mandatory 
>> to complete the installation. Have you tried just hitting the next button? 
>> Assuming Windows is already activated, you should be able to continue using 
>> your existing license. The procedure when installing Windows 10 on a device 
>> that’s already been activated using a Digital entitlement (even if the drive 
>> is freshly formatted) is to skip entry of the product key during setup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Wednesday August 3, 2016, at 11:12:40 AM, Scott Granados 
>>> <sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, let me say up front when it comes to windows I’m less than useless.:) 
>>> so I may be not taking a step that’s obvious.  I’m thinking I should get 
>>> better and caught up with windows just so I don’t lose the skills entirely 
>>> which is my motivation here to give this a shot.
>>> 
>>> First of all, sorry for omitting the link, here you go.
>>> 
>>> https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US=displayKC=2126929
>>>  
>>> <https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US=displayKC=2126929>
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you take home from that article the same thing I did.
>>>  So on your second point, I was filling in the key I had from the first 
>>> install thinking something had to be in the field to make the next button 
>>> functional.  Is there another procedure from when that key box appears?  
>>> Yes, it is a licensed copy that I set up with a key I’m upgrading from.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you make heads or tales out of the article and if you get 
>>> further.  I’ll play around with the setup screen again and see if there is 
>>> a way to pass on entering the key.
>>> 
>>> Thanks  for your input, I always learn something reading these fusion 
>>> threads.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:grant.li...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott,
&

The Top 10 Things I'd like in iOS 10

2016-06-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone. Here's my annual blog post that I write ahead of Apple's WWDC 
conference, highlighting my top 10 wish list for the next version of iOS. Feel 
free to take a read, and share your own wishes in the comments to the blog post.
http://mosen.org/the-top-10-things-id-like-in-ios-10/
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Re: A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags

2016-05-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi mark, absolutely. When you're tracking a hashtag, all you're really doing is 
conducting a search for a string of characters that come up in tweets that have 
something in common.
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> On 25/05/2016, at 6:40 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan, et al,
> 
> Okay, after reading your post, I took another look at Twitterific and 
> discovered how to save a search.  Is this what you mean when you wrote that 
> both Tweetings and Twitterific will allow one to follow a hash tag?  
> 
> If not, I would appreciate the steps used to follow a particular hash tag in 
> Twitterific as many things have changed since last I used it, extensively.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark  
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:50 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags
> 
> Hi Mark, either Tweetings or Twitterific will let you follow a hashtag, but 
> not be notified when someone posts to it, the latter could get rather noisy 
> and I know of no client that has implemented this for that reason.
> I do my radio show, the Mosen Explosion, on Mushroom FM, where we have a 
> policy of sending out all our tweets with the #MushroomFM hashtag. By doing 
> this, not only can people who aren't interested filter the hashtag from their 
> timeline, but it also allows listeners who are all tuned in but not 
> necessarily following each other to communicate with one another about the 
> show. It really fosters a sense of community.
> One advantage of Tweetings over Twitterific is that it will also 
> automatically insert a hashtag for you. So if you're tweeting a lot at an 
> event, or as part of a radio show, you can save 
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> 
> On 25/05/2016, at 9:11 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am cross posting this.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible iOS app that allows one to
> either follow or be notified of updates to a hash tag?  
> 
> As it currently stands in the Native iOS Twitter app, while one can search
> for hash tag items, it is not possible to save that search or follow the
> hash tag.
> 
> By following the hash tag, I mean that I would, at best, be notified when
> others post using that hash tag or, at worst, be able to save the hash tag
> as a search so that I do not need to retype it in, again.  
> 
> Now I have Twitterific but, as far as I can tell, it does not allow for hash
> tag push notifications.  
> 
> Mark
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Re: A Question Regarding Twitter Hash Tags

2016-05-24 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mark, either Tweetings or Twitterific will let you follow a hashtag, but not 
be notified when someone posts to it, the latter could get rather noisy and I 
know of no client that has implemented this for that reason.
I do my radio show, the Mosen Explosion, on Mushroom FM, where we have a policy 
of sending out all our tweets with the #MushroomFM hashtag. By doing this, not 
only can people who aren't interested filter the hashtag from their timeline, 
but it also allows listeners who are all tuned in but not necessarily following 
each other to communicate with one another about the show. It really fosters a 
sense of community.
One advantage of Tweetings over Twitterific is that it will also automatically 
insert a hashtag for you. So if you're tweeting a lot at an event, or as part 
of a radio show, you can save 
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> On 25/05/2016, at 9:11 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am cross posting this.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good VoiceOver accessible iOS app that allows one to
> either follow or be notified of updates to a hash tag?  
> 
> As it currently stands in the Native iOS Twitter app, while one can search
> for hash tag items, it is not possible to save that search or follow the
> hash tag.
> 
> By following the hash tag, I mean that I would, at best, be notified when
> others post using that hash tag or, at worst, be able to save the hash tag
> as a search so that I do not need to retype it in, again.  
> 
> Now I have Twitterific but, as far as I can tell, it does not allow for hash
> tag push notifications.  
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: A number of questions from a Nubie

2016-05-24 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Chris, in terms of a Pages tutorial, Anne and Archie Robertson have produced 
a book covering using Pages from a blindness perspective. It's a comprehensive 
resource and you can find it here.
http://mosen.org/index.php/mymacpages/
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A chance to win some accessible iOS Apps for Free

2016-04-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
registered and listening. More 
info is here:
http://www.mushroomfm.com/birthday2016

Good luck and I hope you get something you've been wanting.

Jonathan


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Re: AirFoil

2016-04-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Simon, Apple Music's been available on Sonos for a while now.
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> On 4/04/2016, at 9:37 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> I've only tried once from my mac mini,
> I've had better luck from my windows machine, but again that's been more luck 
> than anything else.
> 
> I do prefer my phone which between that and my iPods is the better and very 
> accessible option.
> And the music is all coming from the same place.
> 
> I'm waiting on apple music to up on the sonos app to get a full range of all 
> music types.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, 4 April 2016 8:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirFoil
> 
> Just a question here. How do you use the sonos controler from the Mac? As far 
> as i know there are tons of unlabeled buttons and such, enough so that it’s 
> hard or almost impossible to use. Surely we could label the buttons ourselves 
> if we had sighted people around to help us with this, but some folks, me 
> included don’t have that.
> Don’t want to offend, just want to point that out.
> /Krister
> 
>> 4 apr. 2016 kl. 10:24 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>:
>> 
>> Jeff,
>> 
>> I can highly suggest the Sonos sound system.
>> 
>> I'm using it at home for my Gym and lounge  and it's great,
>> 
>> And it's useable from either a computer mac or windows desktop app or 
>> from an IOS device through a very accessible app and an apple watch app I 
>> currently don't get my tv through the system but that's on it's way with a 
>> sonos sound bar.
>> 
>> Great wifi speakers with upgradable software
>> 
>> But costly or at least here in NZ it's costly but well worth it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
>> Sent: Monday, 4 April 2016 1:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: AirFoil
>> 
>> Okay, don't ask me how, but both bluetooth speakers are now showing up.  
>> Seems that my Jambox doesn't like to connect to my computer, but if I unfair 
>> it and make sure it is connected before I turn on my Bose, then they both 
>> appear in the speakers list.
>> 
>> Just purchased Airfoil as I think this solution is going to work for me.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of developing my own whole home audio setup using several 
>>> Airplay and bluetooth speakers, all run by Airfoil.  I have downloaded the 
>>> trial version of Airfoil to see if I can do this, but I can't get more than 
>>> 1 bluetooth speaker to show up in the list of speakers.  I am sure that, 
>>> when I first launched Airfoil two of them showed up, but I just can't make 
>>> that happen.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody achieved this task and can you provide me with tips?
>>> 
>>> I have two bluetooth speakers paired to my Mac running el Capitan, but I 
>>> can only get one to show up in the bluetooth section of the speakers list 
>>> of Airfoil.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
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Re: Apple Watch: I love it, but I hate it.

2016-03-29 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The thing is, they're every bit as good. I got a jeweller to take a look for me 
before I plonked my money down. Yes, I got a Milanese Loop as part of my merry 
band of bands and I think that one was $18 on special.
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> On 30/03/2016, at 9:35 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I’ve heard much good about the third party bands. I want to physically 
> see some of them first. Now if they do have an immitation black Milanese 
> Loop, I’m there. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine, don't let price put you off. In my opinion, what Apple is 
>> charging for the bands is outrageous. I did some research and found some 
>> third-party alternatives on Amazon. There's a beautiful steel band that is 
>> every bit as good as the one apple is selling. It's original purchase price 
>> was a little over $100, but it was on special for $20 for a limited time. 
>> It's great and gets a 4.5 star rating from Amazon too. I was able to get a 
>> great collection of bands for less than the cost of buying one good one from 
>> Apple.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>>> On 29/03/2016, at 4:37 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m smiling about this as the Milanese is the nicest band they offer in my 
>>> price range. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Slightly, yes, it does loosen a tad, but nothing really substantial.  And 
>>>> when it does, I just readjust.  No big deal.  Apple said with the type of 
>>>> band this is, and just the nature of it in general, it's normal for the 
>>>> milinese to do that.
>>>>  
>>>> It's probably not the nicest band that they offer, but hey, it works.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>  
>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 10:58 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch: I love it, but I hate it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you made a good choice in getting the band initially that works 
>>>>> best for you. The first time I changed bands, it was harder than I 
>>>>> thought. Triggering the little indented area to release the band is 
>>>>> harder than it initially seems but again, once you get the knack of it, 
>>>>> changing bands becomes quite easy. Getting that knack can be maddening 
>>>>> though. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does your Loop band gradually loosen during the day? Mine tends to do 
>>>>> this.
>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mainly because I have mild cerebral pausy in both my hands, and so we 
>>>>>> had two issues.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Firstly, I was concerned that it would be very difficult with my lack of 
>>>>>> good fine motor skills, and the slight trimmer in both my hands to get 
>>>>>> the band I wanted connected to the watch.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Apple and I talked about the possibility of me getting the Sports model, 
>>>>>> but we both felt that given the above issue, it would

Re: Apple Watch: I love it, but I hate it.

2016-03-29 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Jenine, don't let price put you off. In my opinion, what Apple is charging 
for the bands is outrageous. I did some research and found some third-party 
alternatives on Amazon. There's a beautiful steel band that is every bit as 
good as the one apple is selling. It's original purchase price was a little 
over $100, but it was on special for $20 for a limited time. It's great and 
gets a 4.5 star rating from Amazon too. I was able to get a great collection of 
bands for less than the cost of buying one good one from Apple.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

> On 29/03/2016, at 4:37 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m smiling about this as the Milanese is the nicest band they offer in my 
> price range. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Slightly, yes, it does loosen a tad, but nothing really substantial.  And 
>> when it does, I just readjust.  No big deal.  Apple said with the type of 
>> band this is, and just the nature of it in general, it's normal for the 
>> milinese to do that.
>>  
>> It's probably not the nicest band that they offer, but hey, it works.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Jenine Stanley <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 10:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch: I love it, but I hate it.
>>> 
>>> I think you made a good choice in getting the band initially that works 
>>> best for you. The first time I changed bands, it was harder than I thought. 
>>> Triggering the little indented area to release the band is harder than it 
>>> initially seems but again, once you get the knack of it, changing bands 
>>> becomes quite easy. Getting that knack can be maddening though. 
>>> 
>>> Does your Loop band gradually loosen during the day? Mine tends to do this.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mainly because I have mild cerebral pausy in both my hands, and so we had 
>>>> two issues.
>>>>  
>>>> Firstly, I was concerned that it would be very difficult with my lack of 
>>>> good fine motor skills, and the slight trimmer in both my hands to get the 
>>>> band I wanted connected to the watch.
>>>>  
>>>> Apple and I talked about the possibility of me getting the Sports model, 
>>>> but we both felt that given the above issue, it would probably be best for 
>>>> me to get the Milinese band, seeing that there is no buckle or snap, or 
>>>> anything of sort that I'd have to worry about.  Plus, there is no 
>>>> threading the band through another loophole, or anything of sort.  Just 
>>>> put it on my wrist, pull the little part of the band down to tighten it, 
>>>> and let go, and let it magnitize itself to the bottom of the band.  Boom, 
>>>> done.  I know I could have gotten the milinese band seperet for the 
>>>> sports, but then it goes back to issue 1.  It wouldn't come with that band 
>>>> already on it, so to save me a little less trouble, I just went ahead and 
>>>> said give me the stainless steel with the milinese, and have the band 
>>>> already on it connected when I open the box.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>  
>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Sarai Bucciarelli <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 9:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Watch

Re: Can I use Amadeus to record sound from my iPhone?

2016-03-29 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Donna, if you're going to do this on a regular basis and want to do it with 
the best possible audio quality, the answer is to invest in even a low-cost 
hardware mixer. If I'm remembering correctly, you already have an external 
audio device so with a mixer, you'd be all set.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 30/03/2016, at 1:06 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> That's the problem.  What's App store messages in it's own place, and since 
> IOS doesn't give you access to the file structure, you can't get at the 
> recordings to manually remove them.  Someone mentioned a workflow to do this, 
> but I know absolutely nothing about using work flows on either the Mad or 
> IOS, so didn't really want to try that.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> Coming in to this late I know, but if the recordings you want can be taken 
>> off your phone on to the computer can't you then just copy them back in to 
>> your phone from the computer 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 7:42 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can I use Amadeus to record sound from my iPhone?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just want to say thanks to everyone for the suggestions.  After some 
>> unsatisfactory fussing about, I've decided to just take the easy way, and 
>> record my iPhone using the built-in mic on the Mac in Amadeus.  I would have 
>> liked better quality, but I guess I'll settle for this.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Gary <gary.robl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's been a while since our used Amadeus pro, but you should be able to use 
>>> a 3.5 audio input jack cable into the earphone jack of your iPhone and the 
>>> earphone jack of your Mac.
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> Sent from Gary's iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Whenever I want to record something from the iPhone, simple though this 
>>>> may sound, I simply place the iPhone near the speaker of my MacBook air 
>>>> and record what I want in Amadeus pro. Then I go back and clean up the 
>>>> recording and normalize the volumes. I assume you're thinking of some 
>>>> direct wire way to record from the iPhone, and in that case I don't think 
>>>> you can. Although, you can record from your iPhone in QuickTime player
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems like this should be doable, but I'm looking around in  Amadeus 
>>>>> and not figuring it out.  If anyone knows how to do this, I'd appreciate 
>>>>> the help.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: iOS9.3: 4-finger swipe *is* a VO command

2016-03-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, it's not necessary to double-tap and hold to use 3D touch. When VO is 
running, locate your icon, then press and hold anywhere on the screen. No 
double-tap needed.
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> On 28/03/2016, at 9:16 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I forgot all about that gesture. The one on the left side. What do you do, 
> just find an empty space and double tap and hold like for 3-D touch?
> Mary
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 27, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Actually Daniel, I thought the gesture they initially couldn’t get to work 
>> was the 3D touch press on the left side of the phone screen to get the app 
>> switcher to come up. that now works and I use it most of the time to close 
>> out apps so I have only the ones I want to flick through using 4-finger 
>> swipe.
>> 
>> I’d be happy to wrong on this one too but ...
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. My theory is, since Apple made a 3-D touch gesture to be able to switch 
>>> to your most recently used app, and they could not get that to work with 
>>> voiceover active, They implemented the four finger swipe.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Carter Temm <crtbrai...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:crtbrai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just an idea, but with voiceover off could it be a one finger swipe right, 
>>>> or two, or maybe even three? Doubt that it will work, but worth a try
>>>> Apple did this for the notification Center as well as control center
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I said last week that the four-finger swipe to switch apps, new in 
>>>>> iOS9.3, is an iOS command and thus would not show up in the VO gesture 
>>>>> practice system. I was wrong. It seems to be a command specific to VO, as 
>>>>> sighted family members are unable to use it and I can't use it if I turn 
>>>>> VO off. Sorry for the bad information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Sleep tracking apps?

2016-03-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Donna and all, I use Sleep++. I like this app a lot as it interfaces 
directly with the Health app. I'm collecting a lot of health data now, so I can 
get a picture of the things I am doing that help me sleep better.
In terms of charging the watch, I have a daily workout routine which ends in a 
30 minute sauna, and a cold shower. During that period, I put the watch on 
charge. By the time I'm organised and ready to put the watch back on, it's 
probably been charging for an hour and a bit, which gives it a surprising 
amount of juice.
Also, if I've achieved my three goals which I tend to do easily by dinner time, 
I take the watch off, and charge it until bed time. This routine means I can 
wear the watch when sleeping, and I haven't come close to being out of juice 
during the day.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 19/03/2016, at 8:06 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> What sleep tracking app do you use?
> 
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Agreed, this is one of my favourite Apple Watch apps other than the fitness 
>> stuff and my sleep tracker. You can get a Mac app for it too, so there's a 
>> suite of Just Press Record apps and they're all accessible.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 19/03/2016, at 2:40 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Percy, 
>>> 
>>> You get an app called Just Press Record and install it on your phone. It 
>>> will then also be installed on your Watch. Make sure to enable it for your 
>>> Watch. 
>>> 
>>> Once that’s done, you can set it as a complication on the Watch face. Just 
>>> double tap and wait to feel the haptic that means you are recording. It 
>>> automatically starts recording, most of the time anyway. It can be slow to 
>>> load though. 
>>> 
>>> The Watch app now also has a wa y to play back the recent recordings before 
>>> dumping them to your phone, which it does automatically. Oh, to stop a 
>>> recording, flick over to the Stop Button. then double tap on Save in the 
>>> upper right corner to save the recording and send it to the app on your 
>>> phone. If you have iCloud set up, it will save your recordings there and 
>>> save space on your phone. 
>>> 
>>> This is an invaluable app to me.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Percy Garrett <percygarr...@sw.rr.com 
>>>> <mailto:percygarr...@sw.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jenine, how do you record on your watch? Thanks!
>>>> Percy Garrett
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Jenine Stanley
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:52 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with 
>>>> an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>>>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger.
>>>> 
>>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>>>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>>>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better,
>>>>> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of 
>>>>> decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>>>> 
>

Re: Recording on the Apple watch?

2016-03-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Agreed, this is one of my favourite Apple Watch apps other than the fitness 
stuff and my sleep tracker. You can get a Mac app for it too, so there's a 
suite of Just Press Record apps and they're all accessible.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

> On 19/03/2016, at 2:40 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Percy, 
> 
> You get an app called Just Press Record and install it on your phone. It will 
> then also be installed on your Watch. Make sure to enable it for your Watch. 
> 
> Once that’s done, you can set it as a complication on the Watch face. Just 
> double tap and wait to feel the haptic that means you are recording. It 
> automatically starts recording, most of the time anyway. It can be slow to 
> load though. 
> 
> The Watch app now also has a wa y to play back the recent recordings before 
> dumping them to your phone, which it does automatically. Oh, to stop a 
> recording, flick over to the Stop Button. then double tap on Save in the 
> upper right corner to save the recording and send it to the app on your 
> phone. If you have iCloud set up, it will save your recordings there and save 
> space on your phone. 
> 
> This is an invaluable app to me.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Percy Garrett <percygarr...@sw.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jenine, how do you record on your watch? Thanks!
>> Percy Garrett
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jenine Stanley
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:52 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it with an 
>> inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a pressure 
>> issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just the finger.
>> 
>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, though 
>> this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my Watch.
>> 
>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone and 
>> she swears by it with just her finger.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better,
>>> I've tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic I 
>>> was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus of decent 
>>> quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use 
>>> a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
>>> punctuation.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
>>>> 
>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking 
>>>> oup their handwriting
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon F
>>>> 
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Re: RMS DB Value Suggestion in Amadeus when normalizing music files?

2016-03-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Keith, Sound Forge has some presets for RMS normalisation, and I've always 
stuck with those guidelines. You're right, 0DB is definitely too loud when 
you're using RMS.
Try -16DB for music, and -10DB for speech and see if that works for you.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 5/03/2016, at 1:57 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi list.
> 
> I'd like to see what suggestions you folks have, but thought I'd
> direct this question to Jonathan Mosen, since he did produce an
> awesome Amadeus Pro tutorial back in 2014 which I still enjoy using.
> But while I've learned quite a bit, there is one Amadeus situation I
> find myself trying to figure out and when you produced the tutorial
> Jonathan, you didn't necessarily discuss this particular one.
> 
> Firstly, I'd like the list to know that I prefer RMS normalization
> over the maximal sample reference value thingy.
> 
> What I find myself having to occasionally nnormalize in Amadeus Pro
> using RMS is music specificly.
> The trouble is I never know necessarily what DB value to enter in to
> the normalize effect dialog.
> 
> I find that 0 DB in general, is way too loud in most cases using RMS
> for either my Blue Yeti microphone, or music files generally speaking.
> The only time there is an exception to 0DB being too loud usually is
> if I'm normalizing recordings made with my Olympus DM-4 recorder.
> 
> If it helps, the instruments in the music that I sometimes find myself
> having to normalize somewhat are usually at zero DB to start with thus
> zero DB being a bit overkill.
> 
> Is there any way to preview the normalize effect in Amadeus Pro?
> Jonathan possibly maybe you might know the answer to that question as well.
> And just so you know, I do have Amadeus configured the way you had
> yours in the tutorial, so that won't be a problem. :)
> 
> Thanks for reading, have an awesome Friday or whatever!
> 
> Regards,
> Keith
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Re: Romola captcha solver

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes, Webvisum is no longer compatible with the latest builds of Firefox.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 4/03/2016, at 9:50 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you say that web visumm is gone?
> I used it just last month to submit my taxes.
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks so much Jonathan. I grabbed it for the Mac and will send this to my 
>> husband for our Windows machines. We do use Firefox and I loved Webvism but 
>> that’s gone now. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jenine, I seldom use the Mac side for the web, but I do have Rumola on 
>>> Firefox for Windows and it works very well. When you go to a web page where 
>>> there's CAPTCHA, a voice tells you that CAPTCHA has been detected. As you 
>>> start to complete the form, the CAPTCHA is submitted and completed for you, 
>>> deducting one credit from the bundle you've purchased. You buy a bunch of 
>>> credits, rather than pay a monthly subscription.
>>> I believe the website is::
>>> http://skipinput.com/ <http://skipinput.com/>
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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>>>> On 4/03/2016, at 5:12 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe I’m not spelling it correctly but could someone give a link for more 
>>>> info on the Romola captcha solver? 
>>>> 
>>>> Is it a monthly subscription? How is it working for you? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. 
>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
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Re: Romola captcha solver

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi George, primarily in Fusion.
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> On 4/03/2016, at 7:47 AM, Basioli George <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> jonathen
> 
> where do you run windows on a seperate device or v m on your mac
>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine, I seldom use the Mac side for the web, but I do have Rumola on 
>> Firefox for Windows and it works very well. When you go to a web page where 
>> there's CAPTCHA, a voice tells you that CAPTCHA has been detected. As you 
>> start to complete the form, the CAPTCHA is submitted and completed for you, 
>> deducting one credit from the bundle you've purchased. You buy a bunch of 
>> credits, rather than pay a monthly subscription.
>> I believe the website is::
>> http://skipinput.com/ <http://skipinput.com/>
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 4/03/2016, at 5:12 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I’m not spelling it correctly but could someone give a link for more 
>>> info on the Romola captcha solver? 
>>> 
>>> Is it a monthly subscription? How is it working for you? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Romola captcha solver

2016-03-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Jenine, I seldom use the Mac side for the web, but I do have Rumola on 
Firefox for Windows and it works very well. When you go to a web page where 
there's CAPTCHA, a voice tells you that CAPTCHA has been detected. As you start 
to complete the form, the CAPTCHA is submitted and completed for you, deducting 
one credit from the bundle you've purchased. You buy a bunch of credits, rather 
than pay a monthly subscription.
I believe the website is::
http://skipinput.com/
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 4/03/2016, at 5:12 AM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I’m not spelling it correctly but could someone give a link for more 
> info on the Romola captcha solver? 
> 
> Is it a monthly subscription? How is it working for you? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
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It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

2016-02-28 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful people on this list, 
particularly when it comes to using Pages. She clearly knows it inside-out.
Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband Archie would be 
willing to distill their Pages knowledge into an eBook. They agreed to do this 
and Mosen Consulting has published it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" 
and contains over 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the 
application.
You can learn more about the book here <http://mosen.org/index.php/mymacpages/>.
Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. It definitely meets a real need out 
there.
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Re: Txt expansion

2016-02-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Gina, I use the text expansion built into Mac and iOS and it's a huge time 
saver. I've got a lot of three-letter abbreviations that result in expansion 
into very lengthy messages. It's great for inquiries I get regularly, and I 
like that once I get an expansion added, it's available on all my OS X and iOS 
devices. It rocks rather majorly I reckon.
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> On 16/02/2016, at 9:27 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello all ,
> 
> I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input my 
> abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very 
> Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts.
> 
> Is there an app that has  predefined routines?
> A common method is to not type vowel letters for example.
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> Many thanks
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Re: RSS Reeding Across Mac and iPhone

2016-02-11 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I recently released a podcast on AppleVis reviewing the ReadKit app for the 
Mac. I use that and Liri for iOS with Feedly, and everything's in sync on Mac, 
iPhone and iPad.
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> On 12/02/2016, at 1:33 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Does anyone know if reading RSS feeds across Mac and iOS is possible?  In 
> other words, ideally you’d be able to catch up on one platform, and observe 
> that the other platform was likewise caught up.
> 
> iOS News app supports RSS feeds that are known to Safari.  Social Links on OS 
> X Safari allow reading RSS.  Will these sync?
> 
> There is Twitter, of course.  But I’m still largely going individually to 
> websites, because my Twitter stream is just too full of nonsense (which I 
> still want to indulge, naturally) nowadays.  Of course Twitter continues to 
> be useful for reading particular Twitter streams, which is quite a nice, 
> accessible way to catch up on particular sites.
> 
> And then there is rss2email.  But rss2email is not the most convenient to use 
> for one-off or occasional RSS feeds, like those of comments threads of 
> particular Wordpress blogs.  It’s rather a heavy hammer, to be reserved only 
> for very important stuff that should end up in email.
> 
> But yeah, RSS.  Any alternative suggestions?  I’d love to have something a 
> bit more sane than the first-world problem of going to the (fairly small) 
> number of sites I check in on.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: Cricket notifications etcetera

2016-02-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The BBC Sport app from the UK App Store is very good. You can get news, and 
also set up push notifications for your favourite teams, so when they're 
playing, you get push notifications every time there's a wicket and innings end.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 1/02/2016, at 1:12 PM, Ben J. Bloomgren <ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I've probably asked this on every technological email list of which I've been 
> a part, but what is your favorite app for iOS and/or OSX for acquiring 
> information about the sport of cricket? I used to use an app called iCricket, 
> but last I used it, it had kind a gone down the tubes. Now, I'll admit that 
> this was over a year to a year and a half ago, so the salt shaker is 
> necessary. But, I'm looking for news, fixtures/schedules, scores and all that 
> cricketing jazz.
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> Ben
> 
> 
>  <https://www.avast.com/antivirus>
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Re: VMware fires US dev team behind Workstation and Fusion

2016-01-28 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, Fusion isn't going away. Its development is being out-sourced. So 
we'll have new versions of Fusion in future. The question is, how accessible 
will they be.
I've been tweeting a lot about this, and last night, I received an email from 
one of the now former Fusion developers, thanking me for acknowledging their 
commitment to accessibility. This particular developer was responsible for 
ensuring accessibility, and took great pride in testing and trying hard to 
maintain a high level of accessibility in new versions.
whether that will now be a thing of the past remains to be seen.
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> On 29/01/2016, at 4:11 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately flash is not acccessible on the mac. This site needs to upgrade 
> to html 5.
> Original message:
>> I still have a virtual machine running Windows 7 on my MacBook air, but I 
>> only use it for those rare occasions when I need access to a flash 
>> player-based website. It's really bad when you can't play flash content on a 
>> mac system. I've run google chrome and Safari, but they can't even see the 
>> flash player on a certain website that I really need. So, I resurrected my 
>> Windows 7 installation and it works like a charm with Internet explore.
>> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
>>> I guess this means there will be no more upgrades to fusion, I no longer 
>>> use it as I have no more need for Windows on my home computers, and, 
>>> honestly, I think since Windows 8, it has really gone down hill. But it was 
>>> a great product when I used it, and very accessible. There are 
>>> alternatives, though not very accessible. There's another paid product 
>>> called parallels but it's not voiceover accessible. Virtual box is free, 
>>> but also not accessible. Then there's boot camp, but that requires sighted 
>>> help to get Windows installed. At least more software is now being 
>>> developed for the mac, so Windows should be needed less on these computers.
>>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> We'll have to pester virtualbox to become more accessible, as I just can't 
>>>> wrap my head around the inner workings of the program to work with its CLI 
>>>> interface.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
> 
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/
>>>>>  
>>>>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/>
> 
>>>>> I guess I won’t see my feature request for serial ports as sockets 
>>>>> implemented in Fusion, then. :(
> 
>>>>> This is really sad news.  But of course, I understand it, on a practical, 
>>>>> realistic level: desktop virtualisation is now something of a fringe 
>>>>> market, there are free products available and those that compete 
>>>>> economically and favourably for consumers, and even on the server 
>>>>> virtualisation is readily available and incorporated as parts of 
>>>>> technology stacks.  And if VMWare’s products are profitable, it’s only 
>>>>> because they’re already asking too much.  So who’s going to be too 
>>>>> bothered, apart from the awesome people behind the technologies, and a 
>>>>> bunch of geeks?  Oh yeah, and blind Mac users unable to use any of the 
>>>>> alternatives?
> 
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Re: Apple's headphone scam

2016-01-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, while technology must advance, I'm troubled by replacing a 
universal standard with a proprietary connector, and would far rather see an 
industry-wide standard agreed upon, in the same way that USB C was adopted and 
is now being used by Apple on the new Macs.
This has been all over social media, but for those who haven't read it yet, 
here's my blog post on the accessibility ramifications of the removal of the 
headphone jack.
http://mosen.org/index.php/an-iphone-without-a-headphone-jack-the-accessibility-ramifications/
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> On 19/01/2016, at 6:47 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Back in the day I actually paid good money to "The Source" plus long distance 
> to read news from the 84 Olympics at 300 BAUD. That and downloading 
> walkthroughs for Zork :)
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/18/16 11:46 AM, E.T. wrote:
>> Not to overlook 300 baud. We are not in that much of a hurry are we these 
>> days? We can stand to sit and wait a week for a download. can we not?
>> 
>>   Its all in the name of progress. If its moving too fast, people can jump 
>> off at the next stop. There is always the next train.
>> 
>>   78s? There are those who probably swore at the invasion of LPs.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 1/18/2016 8:37 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> So history rhymes a lot. Why would Apple go with that funky 3.5" disk
>>> when I already had boxes of 5 1/4" floppies. Dropping ADB for keyboards
>>> and mice to adopt the unknown USB means I had to get all new devices.
>>> What was so awful expensive about a CD drive that they had to leave it
>>> out of the newer machines? What were they thinking going with the little
>>> 3.5mm jack when my 1/4" quadrophonic Koss headphones are still good? In
>>> all these cases Apple just moved on before the consumers really knew
>>> where the trends were going. Wouldn't it be possible that IF Apple
>>> dropped the last bastion of analog I/O they might actually include
>>> headphones with the new fangled connector? For those with nice high-end
>>> headphones a little adaptation might be in line but years from now we'll
>>> look back and wonder what the big deal was. In the end it's all
>>> disposable, just happening sooner than some would like. Sure some niche
>>> or luddite realms linger, but Apple doesn't seem to care as much about
>>> those. Vacuum tubes and vinyl LPs anyone? Yes, those are fighting words
>>> in some camps :)
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/18/16 10:36 AM, E.T. wrote:
>>>> Change is ever so very difficult yet change is exactly what brings us
>>>> to this point in time. With change comes the task of breaking old
>>>> obsolete habits and forming new ones.
>>>> 
>>>>   For example, look at the mad rush people make to trade in the last
>>>> generation of iPhones even if it is perfectly functional, or stand in
>>>> line overnight to get that new Apple TV.
>>>> 
>>>>   So Apple has very good reason for change. Its simple. People want
>>>> change.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/18/2016 7:12 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>> Yes, the 3.5 m jack would go bye bye. You'd have to get new headphones,
>>>>> if this wind up being true which would have a lightning plug on the end,
>>>>> like your charger, instead of the rounded 3.5M plug.
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>>*From:* Kawal Gucukoglu <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>
>>>>>*To:* Macvisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>*Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2016 10:01 AM
>>>>>*Subject:* Re: Apple's headphone scam
>>>>> 
>>>>>Please could someone tell me how headphones could fit in a
>>>>>lightening adaptor?  You mean there would be a different kind of
>>>>>thing to put in a socket?
>>>>> 
>>>>>I don’t understand this headphone lightening connector thing.  W

Re: purchasing Amadeus Pro

2016-01-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Donna, apps from the App Store have some degree of sandboxing, and this 
impedes a few Amadeus functions. But the big deal is that if you run beta 
versions of OS X, there've been a couple of occasions where Amadeus Pro stops 
working. If you depend on it for making a living as I do, you don't want to 
wait until Apple gets around to approving a new version. But those problems 
don't apply when you have the version from his website.
The good thing is that on the Hairersoft website, Martin has provided a 
step-by-step guide for converting your App Store version to a Hairersoft.com 
<http://hairersoft.com/> version, which I recommend doing.
Hope that helps.
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> On 5/01/2016, at 4:39 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just saw that Jonathan Mosen recommends purchasing Amadeus directly from 
> the vendor, rather than through the app store.  Unfortunately, I hadn't seen 
> this earlier, so have purchased through the app store.  Why the 
> recommendation to purchase from the vendor?  Will I have any ongoing issues 
> due to having purchased from the app store?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

2016-01-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Jim, with your talk of the blizzard you experienced, you've hit on exactly 
why many of us believe there should be an FM radio in every smartphone. 
Disasters. In an earthquake, major storm, or sadly even in a terror attack, 
it's too easy for infrastructure to be overloaded or damaged. There was a 
serious earthquake here five years ago that resulted in hundreds of lives lost. 
Many cell sites were damaged, and those that weren't suffered huge congestion 
when everyone tried to call and text at the same time. Power was out for a long 
time for many people, so they had no Internet at work or home. Mobile data 
can't be trusted at times like this. The good old ham radio operators were a 
huge help during this time.
It's also true that conventional radio transmitters may fail too, but chances 
are that somewhere, there'll be a station that's able to stay on the air and 
give advice and other emergency information.
Like others in this thread, my understanding is also that just like the 
numerous Android phones where this feature is enabled, there is an FM radio in 
the iPhone that hasn't been enabled. Enabling it can't do any harm, and it 
could literally be a life saver at critical times.
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> On 30/12/2015, at 2:08 PM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ithink all the listening maps are great but there's nothing like listening to 
> radio.  When we had our blizzard this weekend and there were tornadoes not 
> far from us I thought how lost we'd be without the internet.  I hope over the 
> air radio never goes away.
> jg
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I 
>> used to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense 
>> it picks back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed 
>> it.
>> I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio, considering 
>> the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you lose your 
>> internet connection, you can listen to the same station forever if you want, 
>> and don't have to worry about it phasing out just because you're leaving the 
>> state.  That was one thing I hated about traveling; we would get used to 1 
>> station, then about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look again for another 
>> station because we lost the one we were listening to, or just retire the 
>> radio altogether and try to find a tape that we all liked.
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote:
>>>> I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the 
>>>> chips
>>>> in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
>>>> think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would 
>>>> require
>>>> headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
>>>> wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
>>>> those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
>>> 
>>> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
>>> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
>>> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
>>> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
>>> 
>>> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
>>> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
>>> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
>>> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. 
>>> Unless
>>> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
>>> not on a
>>> broadcaster's schedule.
>>> 
>>> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - 
>>> that's
>>> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
>>> decades).
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Re: scripting column changes in Mail.

2015-12-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, Jonathan. I'll take a look over 
the summer break. In the mean time would be keen to hear if others try this.
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> On 21/12/2015, at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As promised, I have written the script that Jonathan Mozen requested. Please 
> note, I have only run this twice and only on a Yosemite system, so no 
> promises. I put in a little more documentation than most of what I have 
> published, but it could use more.
> 
> I don’t always get to read MacVisionaries, so write me directly if you need 
> support and I will try.
> The script sstarts with the use line and ends with “end run” 
> 
> -
> use Mail : application id "com.apple.mail"
> 
> -- This set of statements is all you should need to adjust.
> -- this will change the columns for the Family Mailbox of the Google account 
> and the Inbox 
> to CorrectColumns()
>   set mb to mailbox "Family" of account "Google"
>   set col to {attachments column, message status column, subject column, 
> from column, date received column}
>   AdjustMailColumns for mb into col
>   set mb to mailbox inbox
>   AdjustMailColumns for mb into col
>   
> end CorrectColumns
> 
> 
> -- The real meat of the script is below.
> --This function takes a folder and a list of columns and attempts to set the 
> columns up.
> -- If no message viewer is available create one.
> 
> on AdjustMailColumns for myBox into ColumnList
>   try
>   set myViewer to message viewer 1
>   set myWindow to window of myViewer
>   set myWindow's index to 1
>   
>   on error
>   set myViewer to make new message viewer
>   end try
>   set selected mailboxes of myViewer to {myBox}
>   set the visible columns of myViewer to ColumnList
> end AdjustMailColumns
> -- This will make the application specified move to the front.
> -- no errors or specific messages are generated on failure.
> on MoveToFront(AppName)
>   try
>   activate application AppName
>   tell application "System Events"
>   set frontmost of process AppName to true
>   end tell
>   end try
> end MoveToFront
> 
> on run {}
>   MoveToFront("Mail")
>   CorrectColumns
> end run
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
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Re: Media Server To Replace iTunes?

2015-12-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Juan, yes it does for now, but it should improve with the new OS version.
I really like the NAS a lot, especially the accessible iOS apps, and the fact 
that the drive itself takes care of AirPlay.
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> On 19/12/2015, at 5:49 PM, Juan Hernandez <juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonothan,
>  
> How has your use of the sinology been to this date?  Have they improved at 
> all? Does the setup process still need sighted help like you described in 
> your blog article?
>  
> Best,
>  
> Juan Hernandez
> Email:  juanhernande...@gmail.com <mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>
> mobile:  (619) 750-9431
> twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz <http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz>
> facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/blindwiz <http://www.facebook.com/blindwiz>
> web:  http://www.juanhernandez.meJuan <http://www.juanhernandez.mejuan/> 
> Hernandez
> 4
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Media Server To Replace iTunes?
>  
> Perhaps you've found that an iTunes Media Server doesn't meet your needs, but 
> my Synology NAS broadcasts itself on the network as an iTunes Media server, 
> making all the media on it searchable and playable from within any iTunes on 
> the network.
> It also has some absolutely brilliant iOS apps, which allow me to access all 
> of my content from anywhere. The NAS itself can send audio and video to any 
> AirPlay or DLAN device, which takes your IDevice out of the mix when playing 
> a lot of content, say, to an Apple TV. And this particular model i have does 
> its own transcoding for maximum compatibility with the device seeking to play 
> the content.
> The web UI has serious accessibility issues, some of which will be addressed 
> in the next update, but there is a command-line UI as well. More info in my 
> blog post here.
> http://mosen.org/index.php/my-new-synology-nas-great-product-nasty-accessibility/
>  
> <http://mosen.org/index.php/my-new-synology-nas-great-product-nasty-accessibility/>
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>  
>> On 18/12/2015, at 1:40 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com 
>> <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> After two days on this, I’m about ready to surrender.
>> 
>> For whatever reason, Apple clearly does not want you running a media server 
>> from which one can stream and download on its iOS devices: it’s either the 
>> cloud—Apple’s cloud, natch—or streaming only.  And of course it has to be 
>> iTunes for your streaming server or the store if you’ve got iTunes content, 
>> and of course implementing this on a separate computer is just tricky enough 
>> to be impractical, and only supports some media types some of the time, and 
>> doesn’t support books or audiobooks at all.  It simply isn’t possible to 
>> remotely control a media library with all of the content in it, not even 
>> from an Apple computer.  These features are clearly only intended for use by 
>> individuals on an informal basis, but simply can’t compete with rival media 
>> server solutions.
>> 
>> I have made a note to come back to this.  Maybe in the future, my dream can 
>> come true.  In the meantime, the old Mac Mini might come back to life as an 
>> OS X Server caching downloads, saving some of my bandwidth and making 
>> downloads from the store a bit more practical.
>> 
>> There are also two other lessons to be learned from this:
>> 
>> 1.  DRM is evil.  Really, really evil.  Without DRM, iTunes could be thrown 
>> aside, and all content managed on the NAS directly.
>> 
>> 2.  Leave iTunes running.  Your devices will sync more regularly, and you 
>> can stream your stuff.  Just close the window to make it less distracting, 
>> while leaving the app open.  Just like Mail.
>> 
>> And a question:
>> 
>> What about protected ePub books?  If you opened one of those from your NAS, 
>> would you be able to read it in iBooks?  Other protected files will 
>> seemingly not play if opened, including Audible.
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Re: Most efficient way to read emails

2015-12-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sandy, once you've interacted with the message table, use VO+Right-arrow. 
YOu'll then be focussed on the individual columns. If you move to the subject 
column, you can then down-arrow and hear only the subject.
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> On 19/12/2015, at 12:09 AM, Sandy Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been reading this thread with great interest.  I have one tip  and two 
> questions.  While interacting with the list of messages it is possible to 
> jump to the top and bottom of the table with control, option, function left 
> arrow or right arrow respectively.
> 
> Jonathan, you wrote, "
>> ...interacting with the message table in a folder where messages are grouped 
>> by conversation, such as the folder one might set up for this list, helps 
>> because you can arrow down and hear only the subjects of the threads, rather 
>> than having to sit through a long list of senders before you know what the 
>> subject is." 
> I am not finding that to be the case so I wonder what setting I might not 
> have right. In my Apple folder messages are grouped by conversation and I 
> have them sorted by subject.  And yes, I am interacting with the table of 
> messages.
> 
> Also, how does one access  this five-line preview? I have it on my phone but 
> not on my Mac. Is it available?  Thanks. 
> Sandy Finley
> finleykn...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:58 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathon and thank you for your kind compliment in describing my 
>> previous post as being clear.  
>> 
>> Actually, I do not use a 5 line preview pane, although I do use the standard 
>> view.
>> 
>> The primary beauty of the technique I use is that, if setup properly, one 
>> does not have to jump into each individual message of a thread in order to 
>> have it be automatically read by VoiceOver.  
>> 
>> Jonathan, since you are the tech writer of the group, perhaps we could 
>> discuss the configuration and execution, off-list, and you could write up a 
>> short guide.
>> Just a thought (smile).  
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:54 PM
>> To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: Most efficient way to read emails
>> 
>> Hmmm, based on mark's clear description already, O'm not sure what everyone 
>> is expecting him to add? He's using the standard layout, not classic, with 
>> five lines of preview, and VO+J to jump into the full body of the message 
>> where necessary. I think that's what a number of us are doing. Works well.
>> The only other thing I'd add is that interacting with the message table in a 
>> folder where messages are grouped by conversation, such as the folder one 
>> might set up for this list, helps because you can arrow down and hear only 
>> the subjects of the threads, rather than having to sit through a long list 
>> of senders before you know what the subject is.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>> 
>> On 18/12/2015, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I know it takes time to write up guides, but I would be interested in your 
>> method, Mark. And I think a short step-by-step guide would be more helpful 
>> than a podcast or a conference call, which all might not attend. I like 
>> written guides, because I can access them and start and stop or review or 
>> whatever without having to fool with the whole podcast thing. I guess it 
>> goes back to my braille learning and using days in school. I love audio, , 
>> Nothing beats a step-by-step list of do this, than that, then the other 
>> thing.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <mjanusaus...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I have heard mention several times of this efficiency recipe that Mark has 
>> for quickly reading through large amounts of mail using mail.app on the Mac. 
>> I would be interested in the details. Perhaps a short guide on AppleVis 
>> would be helpful to many?
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan, this is quite exciting to me. So does that mean you could write 
>> a script that puts the subject column first, and that upon running that 
>> scri

Re: Most efficient way to read emails

2015-12-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I actually got that tip from this very list. It's a massive time saver.
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> On 18/12/2015, at 12:12 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Great, learn something new every day.  Even in the modern view, one can first 
> interact and then the cursor key navigation allows you to read by the column 
> you’re viewing.  Thanks Jonathan.
> 
> But I still prefer the classic view, with the preview pane off.  I like the 
> clean and tabular layout, VoiceOver’s support for sorting columns, the 
> consistency of navigation with and without VoiceOver, the initial-letter 
> jumping.  That I should have to switch to the modern view only because Apple 
> aren’t properly maintaining the classic view’s performance gets to me.
> 
> And I think the slow deletion of messages from message windows that some 
> people are experiencing is actually a bug.  I’ve seen it often mentioned on 
> mainstream sites and blogs.
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Re: Most efficient way to read emails

2015-12-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hmmm, based on mark's clear description already, O'm not sure what everyone is 
expecting him to add? He's using the standard layout, not classic, with five 
lines of preview, and VO+J to jump into the full body of the message where 
necessary. I think that's what a number of us are doing. Works well.
The only other thing I'd add is that interacting with the message table in a 
folder where messages are grouped by conversation, such as the folder one might 
set up for this list, helps because you can arrow down and hear only the 
subjects of the threads, rather than having to sit through a long list of 
senders before you know what the subject is.
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> On 18/12/2015, at 11:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I know it takes time to write up guides, but I would be interested in your 
> method, Mark. And I think a short step-by-step guide would be more helpful 
> than a podcast or a conference call, which all might not attend. I like 
> written guides, because I can access them and start and stop or review or 
> whatever without having to fool with the whole podcast thing. I guess it goes 
> back to my braille learning and using days in school. I love audio, , Nothing 
> beats a step-by-step list of do this, than that, then the other thing.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <mjanusaus...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:mjanusaus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I have heard mention several times of this efficiency recipe that Mark has 
>> for quickly reading through large amounts of mail using mail.app on the Mac. 
>> I would be interested in the details. Perhaps a short guide on AppleVis 
>> would be helpful to many?
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan, this is quite exciting to me. So does that mean you could 
>>> write a script that puts the subject column first, and that upon running 
>>> that script, the change would stick?
>>> If so, I would be super interested in such a script. It would be even 
>>> better if the settings were folder specific, but I'm guessing that's not 
>>> possible?
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>>> On 17/12/2015, at 10:15 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have tested, that you can change the order the columns in the standard 
>>>> view of mail using AppleScript. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> For what it's worth, I also use the five-line preview. Often, this is 
>>>>> enough to let me read the entire message, or at least most of it. If I 
>>>>> need to open it, I press enter, and VO reads it automatically. I can 
>>>>> press vo-a to speed up the reading process, but that's not usually 
>>>>> necessary. When done, cmd-w closes the message and I'm back in the list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I always keep the preview pane closed, because with it opened, arrowing 
>>>>> past a message is enough to mark it 'read' even if I didn't read it. I 
>>>>> also use the modern layout, because the classic one doesn't support the 
>>>>> preview text I mentioned before. yes, classic layout lets me sort the 
>>>>> order of columns in the messages table, but losing that preview isn't 
>>>>> worth saving a second by hearing the subject first, to me at least.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a highly personal choice, and is based on what you are used to, 
>>>>> how you read messages, and so on. Play with both layouts and see which 
>>>>> you like best. I really can't offer anything more specific than that, 
>>>>> because the 'best' way is subjective.
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 14:39, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk 
>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I too am a fan of the Apple mail. I do not use classic view., I have 5 
>>>>>> lines showing. I just curser down a

Re: Media Server To Replace iTunes?

2015-12-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Perhaps you've found that an iTunes Media Server doesn't meet your needs, but 
my Synology NAS broadcasts itself on the network as an iTunes Media server, 
making all the media on it searchable and playable from within any iTunes on 
the network.
It also has some absolutely brilliant iOS apps, which allow me to access all of 
my content from anywhere. The NAS itself can send audio and video to any 
AirPlay or DLAN device, which takes your IDevice out of the mix when playing a 
lot of content, say, to an Apple TV. And this particular model i have does its 
own transcoding for maximum compatibility with the device seeking to play the 
content.
The web UI has serious accessibility issues, some of which will be addressed in 
the next update, but there is a command-line UI as well. More info in my blog 
post here.
http://mosen.org/index.php/my-new-synology-nas-great-product-nasty-accessibility/
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> On 18/12/2015, at 1:40 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> After two days on this, I’m about ready to surrender.
> 
> For whatever reason, Apple clearly does not want you running a media server 
> from which one can stream and download on its iOS devices: it’s either the 
> cloud—Apple’s cloud, natch—or streaming only.  And of course it has to be 
> iTunes for your streaming server or the store if you’ve got iTunes content, 
> and of course implementing this on a separate computer is just tricky enough 
> to be impractical, and only supports some media types some of the time, and 
> doesn’t support books or audiobooks at all.  It simply isn’t possible to 
> remotely control a media library with all of the content in it, not even from 
> an Apple computer.  These features are clearly only intended for use by 
> individuals on an informal basis, but simply can’t compete with rival media 
> server solutions.
> 
> I have made a note to come back to this.  Maybe in the future, my dream can 
> come true.  In the meantime, the old Mac Mini might come back to life as an 
> OS X Server caching downloads, saving some of my bandwidth and making 
> downloads from the store a bit more practical.
> 
> There are also two other lessons to be learned from this:
> 
> 1.  DRM is evil.  Really, really evil.  Without DRM, iTunes could be thrown 
> aside, and all content managed on the NAS directly.
> 
> 2.  Leave iTunes running.  Your devices will sync more regularly, and you can 
> stream your stuff.  Just close the window to make it less distracting, while 
> leaving the app open.  Just like Mail.
> 
> And a question:
> 
> What about protected ePub books?  If you opened one of those from your NAS, 
> would you be able to read it in iBooks?  Other protected files will seemingly 
> not play if opened, including Audible.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

2015-12-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi George, you'll need an account in the UK App Store. And you'll also need 
technology to overcome the geo-blocking of the content. In the case of Apple 
TV, that would have to be a DNS redirection service such as UnoTelly or 
Unblock-US.
My audio book, Imagine There's No Countries, covers both subjects. 
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> On 17/12/2015, at 6:10 AM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathen,
>  
> I do a search in the app store BBC iPlayer, and I get a bunch of choices like 
> radio things which do I pick to get the t v things
>  
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>  
> BBC iPlayer was released for Apple TV 4 a couple of days ago, complete with 
> live streaming of BBC channels, and audio description. It's awesome.
> Jonathan Mosen
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>> Not until BBC iPlayer gets rolled out and has the same coverage as their 
>> dreadful web player.
>> 
>> But that, of course, is just me.
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Re: Airplay weirdness with iPhone running iOS 9 .2

2015-12-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, I've personally not seen any evidence that turning off VoiceOver gives 
a better AirPlay Experience, so have never done this. But if turning VOiceOver 
back on causes it to be sent to the AirPlay device, you could use your rotor to 
choose the audio destination option, and set it to your phone. It would be a 
pretty laborious task as VO over AirPlay is hella sluggish.
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> On 17/12/2015, at 4:47 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was using my phone to play radio tunes via airplay through my stereo, which 
> as an airport express connected. I had turn voiceover off, because I believe 
> that the quality of the airplay is better when voiceover is not there. When I 
> was done playing radiotunes,  I wanted to turn voiceover back on, so I could 
> shut airplay off. Much to my surprise, voiceover started playing through my 
> stereo speakers. I have no idea why this happened. I have not seen this ever. 
> What might cause it? If I turn voiceover off and back on shall I expect it to 
> start coming through my stereo whenever I have airplay active? This just 
> seems to be another aspect of the bug that has entered the iOS echo system 
> with iOS 9. Bluetooth doesn't act right. Sound volume fluctuates. Bluetooth 
> earpieces stop working. It's just screwed up. Apple needs to fix it, but it 
> is all over the place. And they always say it is device specific. I don't 
> believe that for a minute.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Most efficient way to read emails

2015-12-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Jonathan, this is quite exciting to me. So does that mean you could write a 
script that puts the subject column first, and that upon running that script, 
the change would stick?
If so, I would be super interested in such a script. It would be even better if 
the settings were folder specific, but I'm guessing that's not possible?
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> On 17/12/2015, at 10:15 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have tested, that you can change the order the columns in the standard view 
> of mail using AppleScript. 
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> For what it's worth, I also use the five-line preview. Often, this is enough 
>> to let me read the entire message, or at least most of it. If I need to open 
>> it, I press enter, and VO reads it automatically. I can press vo-a to speed 
>> up the reading process, but that's not usually necessary. When done, cmd-w 
>> closes the message and I'm back in the list.
>> 
>> I always keep the preview pane closed, because with it opened, arrowing past 
>> a message is enough to mark it 'read' even if I didn't read it. I also use 
>> the modern layout, because the classic one doesn't support the preview text 
>> I mentioned before. yes, classic layout lets me sort the order of columns in 
>> the messages table, but losing that preview isn't worth saving a second by 
>> hearing the subject first, to me at least.
>> 
>> This is a highly personal choice, and is based on what you are used to, how 
>> you read messages, and so on. Play with both layouts and see which you like 
>> best. I really can't offer anything more specific than that, because the 
>> 'best' way is subjective.
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 14:39, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk 
>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I too am a fan of the Apple mail. I do not use classic view., I have 5 
>>> lines showing. I just curser down and 5 lines is enough to judge whether I  
>>> want to open it. Most messages I don’t bother. I just hit the delete key. 
>>> This is using the wired keyboard. I only expand the thread I want to read. 
>>> I haven’t found how to have 5 lines displayed for individual messages in a 
>>> thread. I hit return to open message if I want to read more than the 5 
>>> lines. Or in a threaded message. I also use a smart mailbox with all my 
>>> unread messages. Other rules for my PayPal receipts for example, are 
>>> automatically moved into their respective mailboxes. I do need to open such 
>>> messages to gain the read flag.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Dec 2015, at 16:26, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu 
>>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Traci,
>>>> 
>>>> I am a huge fan of the Mac Mail application.  In fact, I think it the 
>>>> absolute best resource that the Mac has to offer.  With it, I can go 
>>>> through hundreds and hundreds of messages in just a few minutes with a 
>>>> minimum of keystrokes as VoiceOver automatically reads each message as it 
>>>> comes into focus.  
>>>> 
>>>> Having said this, there are a few things one must do in which to get this 
>>>> to happen.
>>>> 
>>>> IN this post, I will only sketch out the broad strokes as a more detailed 
>>>> description would take more time to list than I have, at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.
>>>> You must use the Default layout view, complete with the preview pane 
>>>> intact.  More simply put, do not modify the default view.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.
>>>> You must use the conversation view with all conversations, collapsed.  
>>>> 
>>>> 3.
>>>> Your primary navigation key will be the Tab Key along with the arrow keys. 
>>>>  Generally speaking, there is no need to use the enter key, the command+o 
>>>> key combo nor the command+w key-combo.
>>>> 
>>>> If you would like more details on how to use the application as I do, 
>>>> please send me a message, off-list and we can schedule a time for a live 
>>>> walk-through, via phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark   
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

2015-12-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
BBC iPlayer was released for Apple TV 4 a couple of days ago, complete with 
live streaming of BBC channels, and audio description. It's awesome.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 17/12/2015, at 2:22 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Not until BBC iPlayer gets rolled out and has the same coverage as their 
> dreadful web player.
> 
> But that, of course, is just me.
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Re: Smart TVs

2015-12-14 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Phil, we have a Panasonic TV which is very good. We can navigate the program 
guide and hear what's on. When we change input, for example to the WII, the 
Apple TV or the Blu-Ray player, the voice output speaks the output we're on. 
And when we select a channel, we're told the channel name, what's on at the 
moment and whether audio description is available.
I don't believe this model is available in the US because TV standards are 
different there, but perhaps Panasonic do a similar model for the US market.
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> On 14/12/2015, at 8:14 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I may be in the market for a new TV to go along with the AppleTV 
> fourth-generation. There's been a lot of chatter about Smart TVs, and I'm 
> wanting if anybody knows anything about them, or white might be a good choice 
> in TVs to take it vantage of Smart tech knowledge ease such as voice output 
> menus etc.
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Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

2015-12-10 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Kawal, were activate on wrist raise, and speak on wrist raise, both disabled?
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> On 11/12/2015, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.
> 
> Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine 
> had this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.
> 
> Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  
> You do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  
> Then suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not 
> just that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had 
> to tap it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it 
> was raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and 
> talking!  So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my 
> nerves, I wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new 
> update would sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.
> 
> You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
> then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a 
> courier and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost 
> expired!  So yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its 
> moving in to apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not 
> tolerate this watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, 
> after the new update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and 
> count down and I had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a 
> whole day and when it finally come back on, there would be no power left it 
> died until it was charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the next 
> one and this time I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it was 
> sports it did this thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time piece 
> though.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should 
>> arrive. I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make 
>> as informed a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of 
>>> next year.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.
>>>> 
>>>> I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, 
>>>> Kawal.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That’s what I’d like to know as well. I absolutely love mine, and don’t 
>>>>> notice any accessibility concerns at all.
>>>>> Now do I wish the hardware could’ve been a little faster? Yes, but for a 
>>>>> first-generation product that’s had 2 major updates since it’s launch, 
>>>>> it’s quite remarkable.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow, I thought you liked the watch.  What did you find frustrating about 
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was going to get one but it sounds like a new one will be released 
>>>>>> early in 2016.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I gave up on my Apple watch today as I was not happy with it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t think the latest update d

Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.

2015-12-10 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi George, right, speak on wrist raise is the key in terms of the talking, but 
activate on wrist raise may have contributed to Kawal's battery issues.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

> On 11/12/2015, at 12:21 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Joanthen,
>  
> I have activate on rist raised so I can show others the time, and speek off 
> and do not have these issues.
>  
> I do have a issue once in a while of moving my hand back twords my arm and 
> activating the crown since I ware my watch on my right hand with the button 
> and crown on the left.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 14:46
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.
>  
> Hi Kawal, were activate on wrist raise, and speak on wrist raise, both 
> disabled?
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>  
>> On 11/12/2015, at 11:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> First day without the watch and I miss it, a time piece on my wrist.
>>  
>> Now I’ll tell you why I gave up on it as I was very happy with it but mine 
>> had this flaw and I don’t know if anyone had it.
>>  
>> Please note wrist to raise with voice over was off.  So think about this.  
>> You do your normal duties be it round the house, at work or out and about.  
>> Then suddenly this watch would start talking as if you had pressed it.  Not 
>> just that, it would go in and out of apps as if you were touching it.  I had 
>> to tap it ten or 20 times to lock it before it stopped.  Some times when it 
>> was raining and my sleeve got wet and it would start talking, talking and 
>> talking!  So I’d have to power it off.  You don’t know how much it got on my 
>> nerves, I wanted to throw it somewhere for it to stop!  I thought the new 
>> update would sort it as I had reset it loads.  New update didn’t stop it.
>>  
>> You would have said call Apple but Apple would have said for me to reset and 
>> then I’d have to take a day off work just to sit at home to wait for a 
>> courier and I couldn’t do it at this time as my annual leave has almost 
>> expired!  So yesterday morning after another period of this watch doing its 
>> moving in to apps back and forth in and out, I got to the point, I would not 
>> tolerate this watch anymore.  So you see what a time I had with it.  Also, 
>> after the new update, when my work out ended, it would continue to count and 
>> count down and I had to power it off.  Then another day it would crash for a 
>> whole day and when it finally come back on, there would be no power left it 
>> died until it was charged!  So there is my story.  So now I wait for the 
>> next one and this time I’ll not get the sports as I am wondering because it 
>> was sports it did this thing that got on my nerves!  How I miss my time 
>> piece though.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 22:00, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I'm waiting until quarter 2 of 2016, when the second generation should 
>>> arrive. I'd love to hear what you (the OP) disliked; all the better to make 
>>> as informed a choice as I can when we see what the updated hardware has.
>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 15:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I'm actually very very highly considerring getting one at the beginning of 
>>>> next year.
>>>>  
>>>> Chris.
>>>>  
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com>
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: I gave up on my Apple watch.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I completely agree!  I'm still very happy with mine.  Do let us know, 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Daniel Miller <mill

Re: mac app store

2015-12-09 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes, I've been experiencing this a lot in El Capitan. The way I fix it is to 
shut down VO and start it again.
Jonathan Mosen
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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 10/12/2015, at 2:33 PM, denise avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I noticed that when I go into the app store on the MAC there appears  to be 
> nothing on the screen. in fact, when i press keys, all I hear his a little 
> ping sound. Has anyone had this problem?
> I have never encountered this before.
> 
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Re: Setting up apple TV 3rd generation without sight

2015-12-08 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Scott, after a period of inactivity, Apple TV 3rd generation speaks an 
announcement after it has been booted up in a factory default state, much like 
the Mac does. But then you do need to toggle VoiceOver on to continue, and the 
announcement explains how to do this.
For those interested, I have detailed step-by-step guides on setting up both 
3rd and 4th generation Apple TV in my books on each device.
Here's the page for the Apple TV 3rd generation book 
<http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-apple-tv-3rd-generation-with-voiceover/>,

And here's the 4th generation book released just yesterday 
<http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-ebook-apple-tv-4th-generation-with-voiceover/>.


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> On 8/12/2015, at 8:22 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Has this always been the case, I know it does start over time as well that’s 
> how I first set it up.
> 
> Also just to confirm, 3RD gen Apple TV is the version out just before the one 
> that was released this year right?  A small box about the size of half a 
> video tape, perfectly square with rounded corners and a HDMI, Optical, 
> Ethernet and power ports?
> 
> I never knew about the triple press of the play pause button, I’m going to 
> try that tonight.
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott. No, that's incorrect. You need to press the play pause button at 
>> the bottom right of the remote three times quickly for a voiceover to come 
>> up speaking.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple TV should start talking on it’s own about 5 minutes or so after it 
>>> boots.  Voice Over auto starts as I recall.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve searched the macvisionaries archive for this, but is there a definite 
>>>> way of setting up apple tv 3rd generation without sight?  This was 
>>>> originally a bit tricky but has it now changed?  Will apple tv speak out 
>>>> of the box?  Or do I have to enable VoiceOver?  And if I do have to enable 
>>>> it, can I do it via the remote or any other method without asking somebody 
>>>> sighted to sit alongside me?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
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Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
One other disadvantage of Chrome on OS X is that you can't up and down-arrow 
through a web page as if it were a document, as you now can in Safari.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 3/12/2015, at 6:40 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
> 
> I can only speak for the mac.  It's perfectly accessible on the mac.
> 
> positives of chrome on the mac are that it works with very ocasional websites 
> that do not work in safari.
> It has adobe flash integrated.
> It can sync favourites with my droid if I want it too, which I don't.
> and it doesn't crash.
> 
> Drawbacks are:
> It doesn't work with some sites that work in safari and has a particular 
> aversion to loading large web pages.
> It crashes voiceover wen using the item chooser.
> It doesn't have the bookmarks bar and associated shortcut keys.
> It doesn't have an article reader.
> 
> I'm taking a two pronged approach to web browsing right now but that isn't 
> really convenient either.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Erik
>>  
>> Are you saying that Chrome on the Mac is completely accessible or is that 
>> chrome on iOS?
>>  
>> Thanks
>> Debbie
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2015 1:42 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS
>>  
>> I just use safari on IOS, but I am in a real tugawar over browsers on my mac 
>> now.  Chrome is 100% accessible and negates the need to keep updating flash 
>> for things like cpatcha solving.
>>  
>> Safari under Yosemite is throwing up all sorts of spurious crash errors 
>> beginning with "safari web content quit unexpectedly".  This is severely 
>> impacting my ability to get things done.  
>>  
>> Right now chrome is my default, but I'm finding that some sites, 
>> particularly extremely large web pages, won't load under chrome, but will in 
>> safari.  On the other hand, some buttons and controls on websites will click 
>> under chrome, but not on safari.  Most often, if something doesn't work on 
>> one, it won't work on either, but the instances of one working but not the 
>> other are high enough to justify the hellatious nuisance of juggling two 
>> browsers.
>>  
>> I'm just glad they both work well enough to make browser juggling feasible 
>> or I'd be barred from some of my most used sites.
>>  
>> Best,
>>  
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>>  
>>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know 
>>> about the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am 
>>> interested in the current state of the excess ability of this browser on 
>>> both platforms. I am not interested in learning chromevox, as I think it is 
>>> stupid to have to learn a whole new convoluted set of keystrokes just to 
>>> use one program. And in my long history of using computers, I have gone 
>>> through enough learning and unlearning of keystrokes, that I feel I have 
>>> earned the right to have excess ability without having to learn yet another 
>>> set of them, which will not be applicable to the whole system. So, what 
>>> kind of excess ability can I have on the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and 
>>> voiceover? How about on iOS running iOS 9?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Shawn, it just works as far as I know, and has done since el Capitan.
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> On 4/12/2015, at 10:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Johnathon, what setting do I adjust so I can arrow up or down in Safari? I 
> still use VO+Left or right arrow to navigate webpages but if this is 
> possible, I'd like to know how this is done.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
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>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> One other disadvantage of Chrome on OS X is that you can't up and down-arrow 
>> through a web page as if it were a document, as you now can in Safari.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> On 3/12/2015, at 6:40 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com 
>>> <mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can only speak for the mac.  It's perfectly accessible on the mac.
>>> 
>>> positives of chrome on the mac are that it works with very ocasional 
>>> websites that do not work in safari.
>>> It has adobe flash integrated.
>>> It can sync favourites with my droid if I want it too, which I don't.
>>> and it doesn't crash.
>>> 
>>> Drawbacks are:
>>> It doesn't work with some sites that work in safari and has a particular 
>>> aversion to loading large web pages.
>>> It crashes voiceover wen using the item chooser.
>>> It doesn't have the bookmarks bar and associated shortcut keys.
>>> It doesn't have an article reader.
>>> 
>>> I'm taking a two pronged approach to web browsing right now but that isn't 
>>> really convenient either.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>>> <debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Erik
>>>>  
>>>> Are you saying that Chrome on the Mac is completely accessible or is that 
>>>> chrome on iOS?
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Debbie
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2015 1:42 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS
>>>>  
>>>> I just use safari on IOS, but I am in a real tugawar over browsers on my 
>>>> mac now.  Chrome is 100% accessible and negates the need to keep updating 
>>>> flash for things like cpatcha solving.
>>>>  
>>>> Safari under Yosemite is throwing up all sorts of spurious crash errors 
>>>> beginning with "safari web content quit unexpectedly".  This is severely 
>>>> impacting my ability to get things done.  
>>>>  
>>>> Right now chrome is my default, but I'm finding that some sites, 
>>>> particularly extremely large web pages, won't load under chrome, but will 
>>>> in safari.  On the other hand, some buttons and controls on websites will 
>>>> click under chrome, but not on safari.  Most often, if something doesn't 
>>>> work on one, it won't work on either, but the instances of one working but 
>>>> not the other are high enough to justify the hellatious nuisance of 
>>>> juggling two browsers.
>>>>  
>>>> I'm just glad they both work well enough to make browser juggling feasible 
>>>> or I'd be barred from some of my most used sites.
>>>>  
>>>> Best,
>>>>  
>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I

Re: itunes on the mac help?

2015-12-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Zoe, your iPhone can only sync with one computer at a time, so you'd want to 
be sure you will be happy sticking with iTunes on the Mac before you make the 
jump.
If you do, the folder structure of your iTunes library is the same, whether you 
are using Windows or Mac. So if you have an external drive large enough to 
accommodate it, or your two computers are networked, you can copy the iTunes 
folder and all the folders underneath it across to your Mac. That will bring 
your music, apps, video and library data across. Then sync with your Mac.
It's been a while since I've tried this, and I don't recall if preferences are 
carried over as well. Perhaps someone else can comment on that. Since the 
folder structures are the same, it's actually a straightforward process.
Best of luck.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 2/12/2015, at 3:56 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi andrew, firstly thanks so much for the instructions.  I did figure it out 
> however do you have any idea how I can actually transfer my itunes library 
> from windows to my mac?  I want access to my music even when my phone is not 
> connected to the mac.  Any ideas?
> Sincerely Zoe
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
> Sent: December-01-15 3:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: itunes on the mac help?
>  
> Hello Zoe,
>  
> I assume you run latest itunes on your mac?
>  
> There's no need to be afraid.  Once you connect your iphone to your mac, 
> itunes will probably open automatically.  If it doesn't, open it.  Your phone 
> should appear in the itunes window as a popup button.  Vo+space bar on this 
> button to confirm that you wish to choose this.  Then if you vo+right arrow 
> from this button, you can see a summary area of your iphone.  Listen for the 
> word summary.  You need to interact with it with vo+shift+down arrow in order 
> to access all the elements in the summary area.  There you will find 
> important and useful info about your iphone, including your iphone number, 
> its latest software, update button, but also the backup options.  You can 
> either choose to backup to your itunes library or iCloud.  Or you can do 
> both.  
>  
> If you come out of the summary area for your phone with vo+shift+up arrow, 
> and vo+space bbar to the right, you will hear the word playlist. This is the 
> list of various categories on your iPhone: again, you will need to interact 
> with this table list in the usual way in order to choose the category you 
> want to manipulate or view.  The one that's already highlighted is your 
> summary area.  But you can also vo+down arrow in this list to choose other 
> categories.  The one immediately underneath your phone summary is your apps.  
> Once your voiceover cursor lands on it, it becomes active.  Stop interacting 
> with the table list with vo+shift+up arrow and move with vo+left arrow to the 
> left and you should hear apps summary area.  Interact and there you will find 
> the list of all the apps relating to your iphone.  These apps are again 
> arranged in a list.  You need to interact with it in the usual way.  Once you 
> can vo+arrow up and down it, you will hear which apps are installed, can be 
> installed, or you can also remove them from your iphone during the next sync 
> session.
>  
> If you stop interacting with the apps area, jumping to the very right of the 
> screen with command+vo+right arrow will put you on the sync button or apply 
> button which are the same buttons but apply appears when you have made 
> changes to your choices for your iphone.
>  
> Zoe, I realise there's so much for you to learn but don't lose heart.  It 
> will take time.  And we will help as much as we can.
>  
> Hope this will help a little.
>  
> Be aware, since you are going to connect your iphone to itunes on your mac 
> for the first time, there may be messages appearing to do with iphone in 
> itunes which I may not be aware and therefore can't comment or warn you about.
>  
> Andrew
>> On 1 Dec 2015, at 02:06, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com 
>> <mailto:fiog...@rogers.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I hope it’s ok to ask this question on this list.  I want to start using 
>> iTunes on the mac.  I have an iPhone with about 1000 songs, 10 very 
>> important videos, and loads of pictures.  All this time I’ve been using 
>> windows, so how do I start using iTunes on the mac without losing everything 
>> on m

Re: Setting up Apple TV

2015-11-18 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The Apple TV 4th generation is more difficult, but not impossible, to use 
without a TV, because it no longer offers a separate audio optical output as 
the third generation did.
You'll need HDMI to at least set it up initially. If necessary, you can get 
HDMI to analog converters. You can pair a Bluetooth or AirPlay device after 
initial setup.
I'm about two thirds of the way through writing my Apple TV 4th gen book, and 
hope to have it in the store by Christmas, when I'm sure a lot of people will 
be seeing new Apple TVs under their tree.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 19/11/2015, at 6:35 AM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> No. I have a friend who happens to be blind who uses Apple TV and he
> and his wife do not have a TV.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 11/18/15, Jürgen Fleger <apple-engl...@fleger.net> wrote:
>> Hi Vaughn,
>> 
>> thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for
>> the initial set up?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Jürgen,
>>> 
>>> Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
>>> settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
>>> iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
>>> you.
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
>>> 
>>> I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming
>>> Holiday.
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger <apple-engl...@fleger.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV
>>>> with
>>>> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or
>>>> an
>>>> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks and
>>>> all the best
>>>> Jürgen
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Re: upgrading my mac

2015-11-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Zoe, do you perhaps have QuickNav on? Try pressing the left and right-arrow 
keys together, and see if VO says "QuickNav off". If it reports "QuickNav on", 
press them again, because off is the correct state for the kind of navigation 
you're trying to perform.
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> On 18/11/2015, at 9:41 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> oh it's ok, the truth is I've really been working my mind over time and using 
> shrook I've been able to figure out how to read a recipe and even copy it and 
> paste it into a pages document so now my issues are how to navigate pages and 
> edit.  I figure I might as well as figure this out before I even think of 
> upgrading.  Something seems to be wrong because no matter what command I use 
> on pages I keep hearing menu extras so I'm really stuck but I'm not giving up 
> yet.  Thanks for trying
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Agent086b
> Sent: November-17-15 3:34 PM
> To: Mac List
> Subject: Re: upgrading my mac
> 
> Hi,
> my wife took a look at the site and she can not see any way of switching it 
> to English.
> Sorry we can’t help.
> Max.
> 
>> On 17 Nov 2015, at 8:37 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It's in Greek, apparently I've been told the site can be switched to English 
>> but can't tell you how it's done.  The website is www.argiro.gr
>> I've been clicking on recent recipes and shrook pops up but I only get as 
>> far as the recipe titles with shrook.  I've been searching for hints on how 
>> to use shrook but no luck as of yet.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Agent086b
>> Sent: November-16-15 4:20 PM
>> To: Mac List
>> Subject: Re: upgrading my mac
>> 
>> Hi,
>> if you would like to provide the link we can take a look. I have a sited 
>> wife who may be able to give me some pointers. 
>> Max.
>>> On 17 Nov 2015, at 8:12 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there it's a famous greek chef who infuses traditional greek cooking 
>>> with a modern touch.  The website is in Greek so it wouldn't be of any 
>>> benefit to you guys, unless you have sited help.  Apparently the boy who 
>>> tried to help me last year from the accessibility team at apple was sighted 
>>> and he was able to click on a link and switch the website to English.  He 
>>> actually said he liked the site and he would try out a few of the recipes.  
>>> I don't know how to switch the web site to English.
>>> The problem is I visit the website everyday and with mac I haven't been 
>>> able to figure it out.  With windows all I do is go to the website arrow 
>>> down with one finger until I hear recent recipes, click enter and then I 
>>> arrow down until I hear a title of a recipe that I like and hit enter 
>>> again.  Then I arrow through the recipe and hold shift arrow down and copy 
>>> it and then paste it into a word document.  Literally the whole process 
>>> takes me a minute or so.  I want to do it with the mac because Idon't want 
>>> to go back to windows but unfortunately I can't figure it out, and no one 
>>> on the list was able to help.  
>>> Sincerely 
>>> zoe
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>>> Sent: November-16-15 3:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: upgrading my mac
>>> 
>>> So what is your favourite website? Some of us might like to try it.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 20:48, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, you are right about yosemity not being available.  I called apple 
>>>> accessibility and they told me the same thing.
>>>> I looked under purchased and no cigar, yosemity isn't there.  Since I'm 
>>>> such a beginner with the mac and everyone seems to be complaining about el 
>>>> capitan I didn't want to complicate things further for my self.  I all 
>>>> ready gave up on the mac a year ago when I realized I couldn't navigate my 
>>>> favourite web site.  I  guess for now I'll stick with mavr

Re: Good Speakers for iPhone

2015-11-16 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I agree with the UE recommendation. We have two UE Meggaboom speakers. You can 
link them together, so you can separate them and get stereo sound. The sound of 
the meggaboom is phenomenal. I used these at a large function in a room full of 
people, and the two speakers easily filled the room with rich sound.
It's also waterproof, you can submerge it in a lot of water. Great for taking 
to the beach or having it roll around in the shower.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 17/11/2015, at 5:36 AM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Get a ue boom they come in 3 different sizes the smallest would work great 
> for you
> 
> It is
> Ueboom.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 08:20
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Good Speakers for iPhone
> 
> Talking about bluetooth speakers, does anyone use a showerproof bluetooth 
> speaker and how do they perform?  I'm looking for a speaker I could safely 
> use in the bathroom while in the bath.  I'm reluctant to use my ipad or 
> iphone in the bathroom as there's a lot of moisture in the bathroom and I 
> might destroy the devices.
> 
> I remember somebody on the list had mentioned a water-proof or shower-proof 
> speaker but I can't remember who it was.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 15:32, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> Also worth checking out is the Bose Soundlink mini II speaker.
>> 
>> For the price it pumps out  incredible room filling volume.
>> 
>> Yours truly,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> College of Business
>> 
>> RMIT University
>> 
>> On 11/16/2015 2:38 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>>> Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Gabe Griffith <gabrielgriff...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a dlink speaker by magic box that works pretty good. It has a micro 
>>>> SD card slot and charges via micro USB. It can connect via audio cable or 
>>>> bluetooth. I got it on amazon for about $30.
>>>> 
>>>> Gabe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just good playback and volume that I can plug my iPhone into.  Not really 
>>>>> sure.  Just looking at options.
>>>>> How have you been BTW?
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you want Micro SD card or USB playback, or just volume and great 
>>>>>> sound?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Grabowski
>>>>>> Mystic Access
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>>>>>> On 11/15/2015 5:47 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>> I wonder if somebody can make a recommendation for good speakers for 
>>>>>>> iPhone.  I need some volume and size does not matter.  I need them to 
>>>>>>> be powerful enough to play for a pretty good sized room so am not 
>>>>>>> looking for wireless or blue tooth necessarily.  I don't even know 
>>>>>>> where to start looking there is so much out there.  I guess they'd need 
>>>>>>> to have a built-in amplifier?  Not sure if the iPhone would be powerful 
>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>> Excuse my lack of knowledge but this is a new thing for me.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Snappy iPhone 6s, do any other Ios devices compare?

2015-09-30 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mary, my understanding is that the iPad Air 2 and the iPad Mini 4 have the 
same specs. I think the 6s Plus is fractionally faster, but the iPad Air 2 is 
still impressive. Certainly the iPad Air 2 was faster than my iPad 6 Plus.
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> On 1/10/2015, at 10:26 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been quite impressed with the snappiness of my new 6s  as compared 
> with my 5S. Indeed, when I use my iPad mini to, I can really tell the 
> difference between it and my 6s. So I wonder for those of you who have either 
> purchased iPad mini 4 or the latest iPod touch and also have an upgraded 
> phone, do either of those devices compare in snappiness to the 6S or 6S plus?
> 
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Re: Upgrading to the released version of El Capitin.

2015-09-30 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I could be wrong, but I believe the build released today is the same as the GM. 
That could be why you're not getting any update.
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> 
> All, 
> 
> Trying to upgrade to the released version of El Capitin as I am running the 
> Gold Master. 
> 
> However when I go to the App Store and hit download nothing occurs. 
> 
> Any ideas on how to proceed? 
> 
> Thanks for the assistance. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos

2015-09-26 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Kawal, live photos are enabled by  default. So when you take a photo, every 
photo is a live photo. You have to disable the feature in settings if you don't 
want to use it.
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> On 27/09/2015, at 6:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan.
> 
> When you take a live photo, is there a button on the camera which says live 
> photo? As I don't understand how one can determine that the photo is live. 
> However, when I get my 6S plus, probably I will understand then.
> 
> On 25 Sep 2015, at 11:05 p.m., Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
>> photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore 
>> it for the first time, working out how it might best be used as an 
>> accessibility tool. You can listen to the demo here 
>> <http://soundcloud.com/jmosen/livephotos>.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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Audio Demonstration of Live Photos

2015-09-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore it 
for the first time, working out how it might best be used as an accessibility 
tool. You can listen to the demo here <http://soundcloud.com/jmosen/livephotos>.
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iPhone 6s Plus Audio Demonstration

2015-09-24 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, This morning I received my iPhone 6s Plus. I've put together a 30 
minute podcast detailing my initial impressions. It includes an explanation of 
a Siri bug unique to the new phones, and a demonstration of 3d Touch.
You can listen to the demonstration here <http://soundcloud.com/jmosen/6splus>.

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Re: Is Airplay fixed?

2015-09-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Eileen, that's certainly possible. There are numerous audio-related bugs in 
iOS 9, some of them quite serious. So something has been changed with respect 
to the way VO processes audio, and perhaps it relates to this new audio 
destination function.
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> On 24/09/2015, at 2:21 AM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Would this be the reason why when I last connected via Bluetooth to a Sony 
> Docking station (basically a large speaker) VO was acting weird and for a 
> while I was not getting sound out of either the speaker or the phone?  I’ve 
> never played with Air Play settings and am not clear as to how they will 
> impact functioning of VO and sound coming from either the phone or a wireless 
> speaker.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
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>  
> Thanks for that. It is called Audio Destination. I will test it this evening 
> with bluetooth speakers. With my earpiece, once I select speaker, rather than 
> external destination, the rotor selection disappears. I will attempt to 
> figure out the parameters of this new option.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, there is now a new rotor gesture available whenever you have an 
>> external sound source connected, allowing you to specify whether you want VO 
>> to go to the external sound source or stay on your phone. I have not had 
>> much success using this with Bluetooth speakers, but it does work with 
>> AirPlay.
>> This is comprehensively documented in iOS 9 Without the Eye, my book on iOS 
>> 9 available from the website in my signature.
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Re: Accessible Download Manager for Mac

2015-09-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
To answer my own question, iGetter looks accessible, and it makes the downloads 
go like a rocket. Nice little app.
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> On 24/09/2015, at 7:15 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> There are a bunch of them, and I'll happily test each one if necessary, just 
> hoping someone has already come up with one that works.
> On my fibre connection, download managers make a hell of a difference to the 
> speed. I'm sure my few extra connections won't bother Apple one bit when 
> downloading a 2GB iOS build or7GB of XCode.
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>> On 24/09/2015, at 7:04 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com 
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>> 
>> Can I ask you to reconsider your need for a download manager?  Safari 
>> already knows how to resume downloads if the server supports it, and using 
>> multiple connections to retrieve a file or files from a server is both 
>> inconsiderate and unlikely to produce meaningful results with today’s 
>> operating systems (which make efficient use of TCP) assuming that the 
>> problem isn’t that the server is imposing artificial limits per connection 
>> which your download manager could theoretically bypass.  About the only cool 
>> thing about download managers like those on Windows was that one could 
>> download simultaneously from mirrors of the same file, which certainly made 
>> great use of resources.
>> 
>> This having been said, I don’t personally know of a graphical download 
>> manager for OS X.  You can script a command-line download tool, but that’s 
>> probably not what you’re after (I used GetRight back in the day on Windows 
>> myself).
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Re: Accessible Download Manager for Mac

2015-09-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
There are a bunch of them, and I'll happily test each one if necessary, just 
hoping someone has already come up with one that works.
On my fibre connection, download managers make a hell of a difference to the 
speed. I'm sure my few extra connections won't bother Apple one bit when 
downloading a 2GB iOS build or7GB of XCode.
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> 
> Can I ask you to reconsider your need for a download manager?  Safari already 
> knows how to resume downloads if the server supports it, and using multiple 
> connections to retrieve a file or files from a server is both inconsiderate 
> and unlikely to produce meaningful results with today’s operating systems 
> (which make efficient use of TCP) assuming that the problem isn’t that the 
> server is imposing artificial limits per connection which your download 
> manager could theoretically bypass.  About the only cool thing about download 
> managers like those on Windows was that one could download simultaneously 
> from mirrors of the same file, which certainly made great use of resources.
> 
> This having been said, I don’t personally know of a graphical download 
> manager for OS X.  You can script a command-line download tool, but that’s 
> probably not what you’re after (I used GetRight back in the day on Windows 
> myself).
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Accessible Download Manager for Mac

2015-09-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, can anyone please recommend a download manager for Mac similar to 
GetRight or Free Download Manager in Windows, that is accessible?
Thanks.
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Re: Accessible Download Manager for Mac

2015-09-23 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Thanks Michael, I had a quick look at this before purchasing iGetter. Do you 
find you are able to see how fast a download is going while it's in progress? 
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> On 24/09/2015, at 7:58 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hey,
> Look no further than this excellent download manager.
> http://folx-mac.en.softonic.com/mac <http://folx-mac.en.softonic.com/mac>
> There are pro features that you can pay for but you don't need to get them to 
> use the program, there are one or two unlabelled buttons but they have help 
> tags witch VO can read.
> you can download all files from a page and tell it only to get a single file 
> type.
> I would be nowhere without this thing.
>> On 24 Sep 2015, at 4:20 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, can anyone please recommend a download manager for Mac similar 
>> to GetRight or Free Download Manager in Windows, that is accessible?
>> Thanks.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Finally figured out how to not have every email in a thread read to me

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Chris, I really appreciate the info in this message.
Your steps are working well for me, with one exception. I too use the method of 
pressing VO+J to jump between the message list and the message itself, as I 
find it most efficient. However, using classic view set up as you suggest, once 
I've done this and then finished with a thread, I apparently have to stop 
interacting before I can hear the next thread.
Are you finding this?
I am running the OS that shall not be named, so perhaps this is the difference.
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> On 22/09/2015, at 12:50 PM, Chris Moore <chris.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Thanks to helpful comments in this and other threads, I’ve just started using 
> classic view and have discovered the following:
> 1.  You can move the horizontal splitter out of the way by interacting with 
> the percentage slider.  No need to figure out how to drag it out of the way 
> with the mouse or trackPad.
> 
> 2. Once you interact with the message list you can move the subject header to 
> the left of the from header using the VO drag and drop commands.
> 
> 3.  Reading the messages can be done with VO + j and VO + j a second time to 
> return to the list.
> 
> 4.  If you have messaged organized by conversation, the right and left arrows 
> expand and contract the messages within the conversation.
> 
> 5.  While interacting with the message table, move between columns with VO + 
> right/left and move up and down with up/down keys.  The nice thing about this 
> is that you can focus on the subject column and quickly browse the topics 
> with the up/down arrow keys, and only the subjects are announced by VO.
> 
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Re: Is Airplay fixed?

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, there is now a new rotor gesture available whenever you have an 
external sound source connected, allowing you to specify whether you want VO to 
go to the external sound source or stay on your phone. I have not had much 
success using this with Bluetooth speakers, but it does work with AirPlay.
This is comprehensively documented in iOS 9 Without the Eye, my book on iOS 9 
available from the website in my signature.
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Re: VMWare.

2015-09-21 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Sadam, there's plenty of information on the VMWare site about what's new in 
8, but predominantly it's Windows 10 and El Capitan support.
The best summary I have seen of how to get a JAWS key working in Fusion is in 
this blog post.
How to map your Mac’s CapsLock key to a NVDA or JAWS key in a Windows virtual 
machine 
<https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/>
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> On 22/09/2015, at 1:25 AM, Sadam Ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Just wondering what’s new with VMWare 8.0? 
> 
> If I do end up purchasing is there a way to set up a dedicated JAWS key? 
> 
> I remember doing this in 6.0 but even after using Sharp keys some JAWS 
> functionality didn’t work in the virtual machine. 
> 
> As always thanks for any assistance. 
> 
> Yours truley, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Sent from my 13-inch MacBook Pro 
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Re: VMWare Fusion causes very poor battery life on Retina Macbook Pro

2015-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Thanks Grant, I'm back up to about 7 to 8 hours of battery life now after 
killing a badly behaved Windows process. But I may well still go with Pro.
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> On 21/09/2015, at 11:12 AM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Depending on which Macbook Pro you’ve bought and which Macbook Air it’s 
> replacing, the designed battery life may be less right off the bat. According 
> to VMWare’s documentation, VMWare Fusion Pro 8 does indeed allow power users 
> to specify whether integrated or discrete graphics are used. I’m running 7.1 
> Pro at the moment, and this reason alone may be worth taking the plunge and 
> upgrading to 8 down the road. Meanwhile, the settings you’ve changed are the 
> only graphics-related tweaks I can think of off the bat. Three hours of 
> battery life seems rather low, though. It may be worth testing with a fresh 
> virtual machine just for troubleshooting purposes and/or testing the battery 
> life on your computer in general to make sure it’s not the battery. I’ve been 
> using my Macbook Pro late 2013 now for about half an hour. I have several OS 
> X apps open like Mail, Messages, ReadKit and Skype, but I also have Windows 
> 10 running in VMWare Fusion. I’ve downloaded and updated my version of JAWS 
> using my virtual machine, and have also done some light web browsing. My 
> battery is at 89% with 6:59 of estimated time remaining. That’s probably a 
> little optimistic, but I’d expect to get over three hours for sure.
> 
> All this said, VMWare Fusion is certainly a heavy energy consumer, that’s for 
> sure. I too enjoy the freedom of switching easily between Mac and Windows 
> apps, but most of my time is spent in OS X. If Windows truly is your primary 
> OS it may be worth trying to get along with Boot Camp. It seems that there’s 
> a lot of extra resources that could go to your primary OS if it were running 
> natively.
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, since migrating from a Macbook Air to a retina Macbook Pro, 
> battery life when using Fusion has been very disappointing. Obviously I'd 
> expect to take a bit of a hit, since I'm running two operating systems at 
> once, but in some cases I am only getting about three hours. It was far 
> better with the Air.
> I'm looking for strategies to do all I can to maximise battery life as I 
> enjoy having access to both operating systems at once, and would prefer not 
> to Bootcamp if I can help it. Windows is my primary OS though, so I need to 
> try and improve the situation.
> I've gone into the virtual machine settings and have disabled graphics 
> acceleration. I've also told it not to use full resolution for retina display.
> I'll ask VMWare directly, but right now their support seems to be going 
> through a system upgrade.
> One thing in researching this issue is that it would appear VMWare Fusion Pro 
> may be better at giving you control over whether the virtual machine uses the 
> dedicated GPU or not, which I think is probably what's doing a lot of the 
> draining.
> Can anyone confirm that VMWare Fusion Pro might be a better bet in terms of 
> energy consumption?
> Thanks a lot.
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VMWare Fusion causes very poor battery life on Retina Macbook Pro

2015-09-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, since migrating from a Macbook Air to a retina Macbook Pro, 
battery life when using Fusion has been very disappointing. Obviously I'd 
expect to take a bit of a hit, since I'm running two operating systems at once, 
but in some cases I am only getting about three hours. It was far better with 
the Air.
I'm looking for strategies to do all I can to maximise battery life as I enjoy 
having access to both operating systems at once, and would prefer not to 
Bootcamp if I can help it. Windows is my primary OS though, so I need to try 
and improve the situation.
I've gone into the virtual machine settings and have disabled graphics 
acceleration. I've also told it not to use full resolution for retina display.
I'll ask VMWare directly, but right now their support seems to be going through 
a system upgrade.
One thing in researching this issue is that it would appear VMWare Fusion Pro 
may be better at giving you control over whether the virtual machine uses the 
dedicated GPU or not, which I think is probably what's doing a lot of the 
draining.
Can anyone confirm that VMWare Fusion Pro might be a better bet in terms of 
energy consumption?
Thanks a lot.
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Re: Force Touch on Macbook Pro with VoiceOver

2015-09-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I'm afraid not. It appears to have no support at all in VO.
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> On 20/09/2015, at 9:36 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Maybe there will be more features coming in el capitan for voiceover and 
> force touch.
> /A
>> 17 sep. 2015 kl. 22:09 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
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>> 
>> Thanks Alex, that's certainly been my experience thus far, but wanted to 
>> make sure I wasn't overlooking anything.
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>>> On 18/09/2015, at 7:33 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tested this at a local Best Buy, trying different things for about an 
>>> hour. The best I could do was to route the mouse to the VO cursor with 
>>> vo-cmd-f5, then deep press. That didn't always work, but I sometimes got 
>>> word definitions and the like. To the best of my knowledge, Apple doesn't 
>>> currently let VoiceOver take advantage of the trackpad yet. Here's hoping 
>>> they do, because it could be a very powerful technology.
>>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 15:13, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, I just took possession of my new Macbook Pro yesterday. I usually 
>>>> give myself a lot of time to customise a new computer to behave just how I 
>>>> want, but I had things working incredibly quickly. Thanks to Setup 
>>>> Assistant, I set up using a Time Machine backup of my Macbook Air, then I 
>>>> copied my virtual machine across from my NAS, which I don't have as part 
>>>> of the Time Machine backup.
>>>> So within about 90 minutes, I had all my apps, my settings, Windows and 
>>>> all the software I use there, JAWS, and everything set up. Now that, is 
>>>> very slick.
>>>> My question relates to the force touch trackpad in my new Macbook Pro. 
>>>> It's really remarkable. When the laptop is switched off, you can feel it 
>>>> for what it really is, a flat surface that doesn't give at all when you 
>>>> press it. But when the machine is on, the haptic technology really makes 
>>>> it feel like you're clicking. Makes me look forward to 3D touch on my 6s 
>>>> Plus next week.
>>>> Has anyone found a use for the force touch gestures, such as a deep press, 
>>>> with VO? I take it VO can't yet differentiate between a deep press and a 
>>>> standard tap?
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

2015-09-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to another. 
Was quite straightforward.
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> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings to the list.
> 
> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
> 
> Thanks for all help.
> 
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Re: Migrating iTunes Library from PC to MacBook Air

2015-09-19 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Craig, if you go into your Mac's system preferences, and choose sharing, the 
nice thing is that your Mac clearly displays how to connect to it on your 
networks. You should then be able to enter that address into the address bar of 
Windows Explorer, prefaced by two backslashes. Once you log in, you should be 
able to navigate to where you need to be and copy and paste as you need. You'll 
need to make sure that the appropriate services are enabled under sharing as 
well.
Alternatively, a good old thumb drive or external hard disk will do the trick 
too.
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> 
> Thanks for the reassurance, Jonathan.  I have never copied from machine to 
> machine before.  Am I to assume that the Mac will honor the same folder 
> structure for my library as the PC does?  I won’t clutter the list with more 
> thanks, but be assured I’ll read your response.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
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>> Hi Craig, I copied my library across the network from one machine to 
>> another. Was quite straightforward.
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>>> On 19/09/2015, at 10:15 AM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:coffeeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Greetings to the list.
>>> 
>>> Presently,my iTunes library lives on my iPhone 5 and my Windows 7 PC.  I 
>>> would like to put the library on my new MacBook Air.  I’m under the 
>>> impression that the Windows Migration Assistant is the best way to transfer 
>>> the library.  If I use this approach, is the software accessible with a 
>>> Windows screen reader?  Are there other  methods of which I should be aware?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all help.
>>> 
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Re: IOS 9 impressions?

2015-09-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on screen 
after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of podcasts in 
Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, and a shortcut menu 
appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to tap on the screen and 
return to the list where you left off. This worked in previous iOS versions, 
but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near the top of the list. If you're 
in a large news-related podcast where there are dozens of episodes, it takes a 
lot of effort to get back to your place. This also impacts a number of other 
apps including some Twitter clients.
5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver while 
listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work as well as it 
used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, VoiceOver ducks the 
audio but does not restore the app to its normal level when VO has finished 
speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck the audio at all, as if 
audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver has not restored system audio to 
its usual level, sometimes toggling speech off and on again with a three-finger 
double-tap will help. At other times, you may need to toggle VoiceOver 
completely off and on again.

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Re: Force Touch on Macbook Pro with VoiceOver

2015-09-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Thanks Alex, that's certainly been my experience thus far, but wanted to make 
sure I wasn't overlooking anything.
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> On 18/09/2015, at 7:33 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I tested this at a local Best Buy, trying different things for about an hour. 
> The best I could do was to route the mouse to the VO cursor with vo-cmd-f5, 
> then deep press. That didn't always work, but I sometimes got word 
> definitions and the like. To the best of my knowledge, Apple doesn't 
> currently let VoiceOver take advantage of the trackpad yet. Here's hoping 
> they do, because it could be a very powerful technology.
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 15:13, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
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>> 
>> Hi all, I just took possession of my new Macbook Pro yesterday. I usually 
>> give myself a lot of time to customise a new computer to behave just how I 
>> want, but I had things working incredibly quickly. Thanks to Setup 
>> Assistant, I set up using a Time Machine backup of my Macbook Air, then I 
>> copied my virtual machine across from my NAS, which I don't have as part of 
>> the Time Machine backup.
>> So within about 90 minutes, I had all my apps, my settings, Windows and all 
>> the software I use there, JAWS, and everything set up. Now that, is very 
>> slick.
>> My question relates to the force touch trackpad in my new Macbook Pro. It's 
>> really remarkable. When the laptop is switched off, you can feel it for what 
>> it really is, a flat surface that doesn't give at all when you press it. But 
>> when the machine is on, the haptic technology really makes it feel like 
>> you're clicking. Makes me look forward to 3D touch on my 6s Plus next week.
>> Has anyone found a use for the force touch gestures, such as a deep press, 
>> with VO? I take it VO can't yet differentiate between a deep press and a 
>> standard tap?
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Re: Split screen?

2015-09-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
There are also keyboard commands, VO+left and right bracket, and Braille 
commands too. You swipe left with three fingers on the status bar to reveal the 
side app swithcer. The iPad chapter of iOS 9 Without the Eye goes into split 
screen, picture in picture, and slide-over in great detail.
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> On 18/09/2015, at 7:26 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't have an iPad, but my understanding is that you simply touch the 
> status bar and swipe right with three fingers. You then chose the app you 
> want, and it appears next to the one you were in when you started the 
> process. AppleVis has a full description of how this works if you haven't 
> seen it already.
>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 13:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>>  
>> Now that I O S 9 is officially released, we can openly discuss it.  I 
>> therefore have a question, in hopes that someone may be able to assist.
>>  
>> I have an original IPad Air.  Not the 2, just the regular 1st generation Air.
>>  
>> I have been a part of the beta cycle for quite some time, but during the 
>> private and the public betas, I confess this isn't something I normally 
>> really experimented with.  Anyway, enough chatter.  My question is, do any 
>> of you all know how, with Voiceover, to do the split screen feature which 
>> was added to I O S 9?
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
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Force Touch on Macbook Pro with VoiceOver

2015-09-17 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, I just took possession of my new Macbook Pro yesterday. I usually give 
myself a lot of time to customise a new computer to behave just how I want, but 
I had things working incredibly quickly. Thanks to Setup Assistant, I set up 
using a Time Machine backup of my Macbook Air, then I copied my virtual machine 
across from my NAS, which I don't have as part of the Time Machine backup.
So within about 90 minutes, I had all my apps, my settings, Windows and all the 
software I use there, JAWS, and everything set up. Now that, is very slick.
My question relates to the force touch trackpad in my new Macbook Pro. It's 
really remarkable. When the laptop is switched off, you can feel it for what it 
really is, a flat surface that doesn't give at all when you press it. But when 
the machine is on, the haptic technology really makes it feel like you're 
clicking. Makes me look forward to 3D touch on my 6s Plus next week.
Has anyone found a use for the force touch gestures, such as a deep press, with 
VO? I take it VO can't yet differentiate between a deep press and a standard 
tap?
Jonathan Mosen
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