Re: I've paired my game control with my Mac, but nothing is picking it up.

[joseph hodge]

I think it might be picky as the only thing I found that honestly works 
reliably is a PlayStation 4 controller wired in through my USB to USB-C. 
Everything else tends to just not ever really map correctly or get recognized. 
Especially running Bluetooth. When using my Xbox controller And trying to 
Bluetooth it to the Mac it tells me I need to update some thing but I can never 
quite figure out what driver needs to be updated. As when I go to Microsoft and 
find the driver, I’m already up-to-date. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:34 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> So I think I’ve finally found a wireless gaming controller that stated on 
> Amazon, would work on my Mac, and also came with a clip so you could somehow 
> play games on your iPhone.  The Brand is something I’ve never heard of 
> “Aghi,) but when pairing it with my Mac, it picks it up as Xbox 1.  So I 
> thought all was good to go until I tried running it on multiple emulators, 
> and Retroarch now completely changes its menu structure, now only showing me 
> what cores I have installed, and eventually just stops talking altogether, 
> and eventually seems to freeze, and in Genesis+, I’m just not seeing an 
> option under input to add/remap the control itself, only a general remapping 
> option, which I accidentally remap buttons I don’t want to simply by trying 
> to scroll through the table itself.  Am I missing a step here, or is the Mac 
> just generally fussy about what controls it will and won’t play nice with?
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Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

[joseph hodge]

For me the fact that HomePods do not have any sort of Bluetooth or casting
capability is a no-go for me! In case I ever want to leave the Apple
ecosystem I can't believe the only thing they let you do is airplay well I
guess I can believe it lol!

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 3:17 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
>
> I haven’t had any problems like that, but I never play music from my Mac.
> I always either play it using Siri, or using my phone. And none of our
> HomePods ever drop out, unless we’ve been having network issues.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Matthew Dyer 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with
> really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When playing music
> on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some reason.
> I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet.  I have a
> electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my thurmastate.
> Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting out.  This does not
> happen with my ipad mini 5.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>
> Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the
> HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without
> first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.
>
> In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite well,
> I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were constantly dropping
> out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I don’t have any of that with
> the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a much better job of managing
> security than Amazon Alexa does.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons 
>  wrote:
>
> Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the
> HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has
> turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am
> getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my dad
> invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also have a
> Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these devices can
> be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand about their defective
> product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel bad for those people that
> were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I don’t want to get a HomePod.
> Not for this reason but I do not need it.
> However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
> I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any brand.
> Bless.
> /A
>
> 29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  :
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially impact
> anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod mini.  Feel free to
> share with anyone who might benefit.
>
> After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod mini,
> I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently Apple thinks it’s
> just fine to sell these things.  I plan on returning mine, and will only
> buy another if the people at the Apple Store can definitively prove that it
> is running a more recent software version.
> 
>
> Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data
> Protection Is Enabled
> 
> macrumors.com
> 
>
> 
>
> The text of the article follows:
>
> To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged into
> your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That includes HomePod
> speakers, which must be running at least HomePod software 16.2.
>
> However, according to *Bloomberg*'s Mark Gurman
> , there is a
> bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older versions of the
> software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end encryption has been turned
> on.
>
> This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 16.2
> won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an update.
>
> Apple's support document explains what options are available to customers
> facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a HomePod mini,
> users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and update it through
> Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the HomePod in the Finder sidebar
> and clicking the *Restore HomePod* option. This will update the speaker
> to the latest software, after which it can be properly set up.
>
> The full-size 

Re: Any accessible games for the mac

[joseph hodge]

My favs are change reaction which is in the appstore. Also choose your face is 
in the appstore too.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
> 
> There's also Brok the InvestiGator, which was nominated for a Golden Apple 
> on AppleVis. I've thought about purchasing it but haven't yet.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jessica Moss 
> Date: Monday, February 19, 2024 04:01 PM
> To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Any accessible games for the mac
> 
> RSGames is a good one, especially if you're into card games, or board games.  
> I think there's another called "a blind legend, but this is a payed app, 
> unless that's changed recently.  Also, if you're running an m1 Mac, fruitpot2 
> is a fun and addictive game if you're into slot machine games.
>  The only messed up thing about trying to run that one on the Mac, is it's 
> designed for the iPad, so unlike the iPhone version, the fruits don't read 
> out as they spin, so you just have to scroll through each item when the 
> machine finally stops.
>> On Feb 19, 2024, at 3:49 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
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>>hi all,
>> I was wondering if their are any good accessible games to play on the Mac?
>> Becky
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Re: Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and iPad apps even while you're wearing headphones, iMore

[joseph hodge]

Lol music recognition from apple could already do this.

> On Jan 28, 2024, at 7:43 PM, MacVisionaries  
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> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog
> Friday, January 26, 2024
> 
> Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and iPad 
> apps even while you're wearing headphones
> 
> Apple's Shazam is now better than ever.
>  
> Shazam has long been the go-to app for people who want to know what song 
> they're listening to but now it's better than ever thanks to a new version 
> 17.3 update.
> 
> The new update, which is now available for download via the App Store, adds 
> support for identifying songs from other apps while you're listening via 
> headphones for the very first time.
> 
> The new feature comes after Shazam was already able to identify songs from 
> within other apps, but it was previously only able to do so while there were 
> no headphones connected, limiting the usability somewhat. With Shazam 17.3, 
> that has now changed.
> 
> Music to your ears
> The new update, which can be downloaded for free now, works with both wired 
> and Bluetooth headphones and earbuds which means AirPods, AirPods Max, and 
> third-party options are all good to go. The lack of a requirement for Apple 
> accessories is something that is definitely worth noting here.
> "You can now identify music while wearing headphones (wired or Bluetooth)," 
> the app's release notes explain. "Simply open the app, check for the 
> headphone icon to confirm your headphones are connected, and then start 
> recognizing music around you or within apps like TikTok, Instagram, and 
> YouTube."
> 
> Apple bought Shazam back in 2017 and has been steadily integrating it with 
> iOS and its other software for years. The app offers multiple widgets for 
> quick music identification and more, but the ability to identify music from 
> within another app is a huge boon for people who hear a song in an ad or 
> video and want to be able to find out what it was.
> 
> More from iMore
> • Shazam — Everything you need to know!
> • Shazam now works 'harder' and 'longer' to recognize the song that's 
> playing
> • Shazam now puts your song history in Control Center even if you used 
> Siri
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.imore.com/apps/audio-apps/apples-shazam-can-now-identify-songs-playing-inside-other-iphone-and-ipad-apps-even-while-youre-wearing-headphones
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Re: My review after spending two weeks with the Activator braille display

[joseph hodge]

Thanks for this in-depth review! I have fascinations about this device, but a 
lot of your cons are what I was sort of thinking that might be for me as well! 
I do like what they're doing with the iPhone, though as for most people, they 
don't use anything more powerful so it makes a lot of sense!

> On Jan 4, 2024, at 10:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I have just spent the last two weeks demoing the Activator braille display, 
> and I thought I’d send my review in case anyone is interested.
> 
> There is a lot to love about this display.  Unfortunately, there were also 
> some things not to love.
> 
> The form factor is amazingly streamline, especially given all that it 
> contains.  It is slightly bigger than the braille displays most of us are 
> used to, but in large part, that is because the back portion contains the 
> folding qwerty keyboard.  On the right side is the magnetic strip, used for 
> connecting the smart dock.  On the left, farthest from you, is the USB port 
> for connecting it to a computer.  In front of that, closer to you, is the 
> on/off switch.  A long press of this button turns the unit on and off, while 
> a short press cycles it between menu, Smartdock, and USB modes.  On either 
> end of the top of the device are three buttons.  The top and bottom buttons 
> are up/down buttons, while the right middle button is Enter, and the left 
> middle button is back.  These buttons are all small, so the middle 
> buttons—Enter and Back—are identified with a raised line.  Starting in the 
> front of the unit, are the concave braille cells, as you would expect.  
> Behind those is the Perkins keyboard.  The one unique thing about this is 
> that there are actually three space bars, two below the braille keys, and one 
> in between the two groups of four.  And behind that is the qwerty keyboard.  
> All you have to do to use the qwerty keyboard is fold it back.  One of many 
> nice touches HelpTech added is that on the back of the qwerty keyboard there 
> are little feet on each side, with a small rubber strip on the bottom that 
> you can pull out to help keep the device stable,  They recommend that you not 
> use the qwerty keyboard in your lap, but I did with no problems.  You just 
> have to put the feet down, and position your legs so that they support the 
> device.  A lap desk would accomplish the same thing.  The qwerty keyboard was 
> comfortable to use, but you do have to stretch to reach it, sort of like you 
> do on the Mac, except it’s a slightly bigger stretch.  The newer units are 
> going to be shipping with a quieter keyboard, so at this time I can’t say 
> anything about what it is like to type on, as that will not be the same for 
> anyone who purchases a device moving forward.
> 
> The concave braille cells, in conjunction with the ATC (Active Tactile 
> Control) make reading very comfortable.  In my experience the ATC technology 
> works quite well, though it worked best when I read with one hand rather than 
> two.
> 
> It also worked very well as a display when paired with my Mac and my PC. I 
> tested with JAWS on my PC, and on the Mac with Voiceover.  There is no need 
> to install drivers in either use case, you simply plug it in and it is 
> detected.  You can, of course, also pair it via bluetooth, with PC, Mac, or 
> phone.  It also works as external storage on the Mac, which was a great 
> bonus.  (The one problem connecting it to the Mac as external storage is that 
> the Mac will dump a bunch of junk files on the Activator.  That results in a 
> No Disk Room error, so you have to delete the junk files and reboot the unit 
> in order to use it after transferring files.  Kind of a pain, but you can 
> transfer files that way, if you don’t mind the cleanup.)  It did not work for 
> me as external storage on Windows, more on that later.
> 
> Now for the best part, the interface with the iPhone.  It is AMAZING!  You 
> slide the phone into the dock, connect the dock via the magnetic strip, and 
> it’s like you have one device that is essentially an iPhone with braille and 
> the keyboard of your choice.  You can access all your apps and files, and you 
> can move files back and forth from the Phone to the Activator.  There’s also 
> a shortcut on the Activator that you can use to access the apps you use most 
> often.  It really is very slick.  The only drawback, and this won’t be a 
> problem for everyone, is that in this configuration, it isn’t very portable.  
> The magnetic strip can’t support the dock and phone all by itself, so you 
> have to have it on a table or in your lap.  You could pick the whole thing up 
> and move it, you’d just need to make sure to support the dock while you did.
> 
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> they are *fabulous to work with.  The owner, Damian Pickering was great.  
> Their tech support is provided by Mike Tindall, who many of you may 

Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

[joseph hodge]

Thank you so much for posting this! For widgets like you showed for text it
seems to work pretty well however with widgets where you can interact with
buttons it didn't seem to work very well. For example YouTube has a widget
that you can do a search I'm assuming because the Mac doesn't actually have
a YouTube widget it doesn't know what to do with that. I wish Apple would
just eliminate that from the list as it really doesn't work on the Mac
unless I'm missing something. Same goes for alexa. They had a widget so I
was like I'll try it but of course it doesn't work because there's no Mac
Alexa app.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 4:34 PM Michael Babcock  wrote:

> Hi Joseph and all!
>
> Find "Using widgets from iOS 17 on macOS 14’s desktop”, this was the
> episode I was thinking of:
>
>
> https://unmute.show/2023/10/01/using-widgets-from-ios-17-on-macos-14s-desktop/
>
> VO+O to open notification center
> Locate edit widgets button
> Locate the widget
> Interact with the preview, find the size you want
> Use actions menu on the size you want, and choose Drag to desktop.
> You can also press vo+Space on this widget to add to the desktop.
> It looks like it’s easy to add both Mac and IOS widgets to the desktop,
> however I also am not seeing how to move those widgets or add new ones to
> the Notification Center.
> It does say "Drag a widget to place it on the desktop or Notification
> Center…” but doesn’t make it clear how to drag or add to the Notification
> Center.
> I did try VO+ < and VO + . As well as vo+command+shift+space
> To drag and then toggle the notification center and attempt to drop in the
> widgets there, and that didn't work either.
>
>
> Best
> Michael - KJ7PAZ
> Payown Media, LLC
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2023, at 3:19 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>
> Hey Michael, if you wouldn’t mind sharing the recording, I’d like to hear
> that! Thank you so much
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 26, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey there,
>
> So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus
> command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a
> recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite
> remember how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you
> trying to add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a
> beautiful day.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the
> latest Mac OS.
>
> I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.
>
> I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit
> widgets and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate
> the widget and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.
>
>
> https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.
>
> Kelly
>
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Re: Adding Widgets on Mac OS

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Hey Michael, if you wouldn’t mind sharing the recording, I’d like to hear that! Thank you so muchSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:Hey there,So first, if you haven’t yet, try checking under the actions menu, VO plus command plus space and see if there’s an option to add there. I did a recording for adding widgets to the desktop on Mac, and don’t quite remember how to do it, but will be glad to share steps tomorrow. Are you trying to add widget to the desktop or to the notification center? Have a beautiful day.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 25, 2023, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:Hello,Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the latest Mac OS.I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets and find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget and it shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.Kelly



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Re: What's going on with Audio Hijack.

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Me as well I’m not quite sure what the issue is!Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 17, 2023, at 7:03 PM, Kliph  wrote:
I use audio hijack every day, and have adjusted these permissions, and have no issues at all. Another app I use pCloud, needs the same permissions, and again, have no issues.For free audio tutorials Checkout MacForTheBlind’sPodcastYoutube PlaylistAnd website for training and services.On Dec 15, 2023, at 4:46 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries  wrote:

  
  

On 15/12/23 12:42, Anders Holmberg
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  I try to upgrade to Audio hijack 4.3  And get this message.
You now need to adjust your system’s settings to allow ACE to run. In 
the Mac's “Recovery” environment, you’ll modify the System Security 
Policy to match the settings pictured below.

Apple's developers are restricting the availability of kernel
  extensions for security reasons. You're using an application that
  still depends on them, so you'll have to follow those instructions
  if you want to install it.
As far as I know, changing the security settings as instructed
  should be possible with VoiceOver. However, I personally wouldn't
  want to use an application that required fundamental security
  settings to be changed. If you want to go ahead, it's at your own
  risk, and at some stage, Apple may well decide to disallow kernel
  extensions altogether.

  

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Re: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

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Its kind of wide the keys to go would more than likely. My wife uses a wider 
one but my mom can barely put a phone in hers so it depends lol.

> On Dec 3, 2023, at 9:13 PM,  
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> Will the 380 fit in a purse?
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> Subject: Re: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen
>  
> I personally like the Logitech K3 80. It has nice keys.
> There's also another one called logitech keys to go, but for me that one's 
> too squishy.
> 
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>> On Dec 3, 2023, at 8:57 PM, > <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> All:
>> I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. 
>> Merry Christmas to me! LOL.
>> I’m loving it.
>> Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
>> recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I 
>> can carry for travel as well. 
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Re: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

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I personally like the Logitech K3 80. It has nice keys.
There's also another one called logitech keys to go, but for me that one's too 
squishy.

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> I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. 
> Merry Christmas to me! LOL.
> I’m loving it.
> Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
> recommend a portable keyboard that I can use with my new iPad? Something I 
> can carry for travel as well. 
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Re: Need a new Braille display

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I do want to state that you were testing them for beta so something in beta is 
not the final product. I think they’ve kind of figured it out. Also, to be 
honest Piezo fails just as much it’s not discussed a lot, but dots do go bad on 
other cells that are more expensive! For example, focus has a big problem with 
that throughout their history!

If I were spending the money, I would probably look at either something like 
the mantis for Corti input, if that’s your jam! If not, I would probably go 
with the orbit 40 myself. If you were going to be taking the device out in 
public and noise was a big factor then I might look at something like The 
brailliant. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
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> I know there are people who have had good luck with Orbit displays, but I 
> don't recommend them. I beta tested several of the original Orbit Reader 20s 
> for my regional braille and talking library, and all had dot issues within a 
> few months if not weeks. Sometime after the Orbit Reader 20 Plus was released 
> I purchased one, hoping the braille technology had improved; however, after 
> about nine months two of the dots on that machine would not come up at all. I 
> use braille for many hours every day, but I am very careful with my displays. 
> I should also mention that the pins make some noise when they refresh. Some 
> people aren't bothered by it, but in certain situations it could be 
> problematic. I have heard that the refresh rate and the noise of the Orbit 
> Reader 40 are about the same as the 20 and 20 Plus.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Simon Cavendish 
> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 01:20 PM
> To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
> Subject: Re: Need a new Braille display
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> Yes, I'm considering the Orbit 40.  I'm hoping some people on the list may 
> have this display and might share their opinion on it.
> Simon
>> On 22 Nov 2023, at 17:52, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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>> Have you looked at the Orbit 40? It is the least expensive display I
>> am aware of.
>> 
>>> On 11/22/23, Simon Cavendish  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'd like your suggestions for a new Braille display at a lower price end on
>>> the market.  My Focus 40 blue has died and I need a 32 cell or 40 cell
>>> Braille display with no bells and whistles.  Any comments on the Orbit
>>> Braille display, which seems to be more affordable at present?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
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Re: Vän for Mac.

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For me once I get the location working, it shows up in the menu bar as an 
option! It's a bit of a fight to get the connection first working but once you 
do the menu bar gives you such better access. I don't typically need to have 
more than two or three locations that I  VPN to, so that's how I do it. I think 
they also have improved a bit on how the app works. I may be able to put 
together a quick podcast or demo of how I do it if that would help!

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> Joseph,
> How did you get Surf Shark to work accessibly on your Mac?
> As I recall, when I tried it back in May or June, it was not a great 
> accessible experience. Or maybe I'm just missing something?
> Thanks in advance for any help/advice.
> -John
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>> I'm currently using something called surf shark. It's really good. I use it 
>> for my Mac, iOS, and Android devices. They have something called dedicated 
>> IP and what this does is. It allows you to choose a country of your 
>> choosing, so I chose England and basically I'm the only one that has that 
>> address. I've been able to listen to things such as BBC 5 or television that 
>> typically gets blocked from these other services.
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 4:54 PM Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> I have Nord Vpn on my Mac and my iOS devices.
>> But its not that good now a days when it comes to streaming from BBC and 
>> such.
>> So i was wondering if there are other accessible vans out there?
>> For example, is the expressvpn accessible?
>> Bless.
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Re: Vän for Mac.

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I'm currently using something called surf shark. It's really good. I use it
for my Mac, iOS, and Android devices. They have something called dedicated
IP and what this does is. It allows you to choose a country of your
choosing, so I chose England and basically I'm the only one that has that
address. I've been able to listen to things such as BBC 5 or television
that typically gets blocked from these other services.

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 4:54 PM Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I have Nord Vpn on my Mac and my iOS devices.
> But its not that good now a days when it comes to streaming from BBC and
> such.
> So i was wondering if there are other accessible vans out there?
> For example, is the expressvpn accessible?
> Bless.
> /A
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Re: Running Retroarch on an M1 Mac.

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Hey sorry for the long delay here. I just got my Mac back as the hard drive 
failed and Apple had to replace it. Yeah sadly it seems not to be working on my 
end either. It will load but I can’t figure out how to get speech running. I 
have an old cfg file that has speech running and I hear it start saying 
something then it crashes.

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> was a step by step process to set up when configuring it on my 2011 MacBook.
>  However, on trying to run the latest, I’m not even finding the settings menu 
> to even begin the setup process.  Is there just simply no means of doing this 
> anymore, or has something about this process changed that needs to be updated 
> as part of the user guide?
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Re: Tables in Chrome in Ventura

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Yes this is about right. Mac has gotten worse and worse for basic web 
navigation. I am currently running the beta because I was hoping this would be 
fixed, but it has gotten worse. Tables are still broken plus now speech just 
randomly shuts off and I have to toggle voiceover off and on. Sorry but Mac is 
super disappointing me with any of these basic accessibility fixes.  Just 
writing this email using Samantha the voice has crashed 3 times and yes I did 
wipe my system and installed fresh thinking it was something on my end causing 
all these crashes. I’ve said this for a long time but my Mac days are ending 
sooner than later s Apple doesn’t seem to take anything seriously. 

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> Hello,
> 
> I just recently upgraded to Ventura. Ever since then, tables have been acting 
> weird in Chrome. Only a few rows will appear to VoiceOver. Hitting VO-down 
> arrow will act like it’s at the bottom of the table. I have to hit just 
> down-arrow a bunch of times for me to be able to access more rows.
> 
> It’s quite irritating. I’m a bookkeeper and so working in Quickbooks Online a 
> lot which has a lot of tables. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
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Re: Question regarding the BeMyAi feature.

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I brought this up on a thread on Apple’s and was told the devs are working on 
this feature and it should be implemented soon. I would still bring it up 
though as I’ve missed some cool photos not having this feature.

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> I’ve just signed up for and been granted access to the BeMyAi beta feature, 
> which I’m really enjoying.  However, I had no idea when I noticed others 
> before me who were granted access sharing photos on Facebook along with the 
> alt text this feature provides, that you unfortunately can’t share pictures 
> you’ve taken within the app itself.
>  In everyone’s opinion: how realistic of an approach do you think this would 
> be to request that this be a feature that can be added, before I share 
> feedback with them requesting it?
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Re: Apple iPod Touch

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No, they stop selling this. I believe a year or two ago! The best you could do 
now is to buy like an iPhone SE.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Connecting a PC to an iPhone mobile hot spot?

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Donna you have to do two things to have your hotspot show up on your pc. First 
is have the screen open to the hotspot screen on your ipHone also make sure 
that share hotspot with others is turned on your iPhone. If you screen goes to 
sleep during the session and your computer isn’t downloading anything or 
sending some sort of data it will go to sleep and disconnect your hotspot. I 
actually set my phone to screen never lock when I am using this.

Joe

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> You could also try it over USB. I don’t know how well this works with 
> non-Apple devices, though, as I’ve always used it with a Mac.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  >
> Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:55
> To: via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Connecting a PC to an iPhone mobile hot spot?
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> Hi all,
>  
> Anyone know if this is possible?  I have my mobile hot spot turned on on my 
> iPhone, but my Pc doesn’t seem to see it.  If it is possible, can anyone 
> outline the steps?  Pc running Windows 11.  Feel free to write off-list, as 
> this is only tangentially Apple related, doniado...@me.com 
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Re: Has Anyone Managed to Seamlessly and Consistently have VoiceOver Audio Switch Between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?

[joseph hodge]

Sadly, no this is one of my biggest frustrations with the AirPods and the 
ecosystem. It appears that they don’t view voiceover as an audio source or 
anything of importance. I say this because I can be using my Apple Watch and if 
I’m playing real media, then it never switches to my iPhone when using the 
AirPods. As soon as I stop playing media though, and I’m just swiping through, 
let’s say the home screen, the Apple Watch will often drop off the AirPods and 
voice will come out the watches speaker.I hate saying things like this, but 
it’s very clear that the testers do not use voiceover permanently or for the 
ones that do they may not be being listen to. It’s very frustrating as I would 
like to use the watch more in bed, but cannot because of this inconsistency. I 
don’t want to annoy my wife.



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> On Jul 22, 2023, at 9:12 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
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> The swapping between devices works just not as fast and smooth as one
> would like.
> 
>> On 7/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As the subject indicates, my question is:
>> Has anyone managed to seamlessly and consistently have VoiceOver audio
>> switch between Apple Watch and iPhone, via AirPods?
>> 
>> I would think it an easy proposition to hear VoiceOver audio in my Airpods
>> when I use either the phone or the watch; yet, I cannot seem to manage to
>> get it to work.
>> 
>> Here is how it would look:
>> 
>> With VoiceOver enabled on both my iPhone and Apple watch I:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Place my Airpods in my ears.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
>> Airpods.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Touch the display screen of my Apple watch and hear VoiceOver audio
>> feedback
>> through the Airpods.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Touch the screen of my iPhone and hear VoiceOver audio feedback through the
>> Airpods.
>> 
>> That's all, nothing more.
>> 
>> As you may recall, I enjoyed such a scenario for a few years a good while
>> back, via a third-party Bluetooth headset until Apple, in its infinite
>> wisdom, broke the feature.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated,
>> 
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Re: fit bit?

[joseph hodge]

Just adding to this, Fitbit was bought out by Google recently and they’ve 
started turning a lot of Fitbit features into a premium charging service. 
Personally, I find the health features of the Apple Watch enough for me! Donna 
mentioned the Fitbit itself doesn’t have any accessibility last time I knew. 
The app was fine. However, just being able to do things on my device itself is 
so rewarding. For example being able to start a workout right from the watches  
interface is so nice. Most of the time when I go for a walk or do a work out I 
don’t even have my phone nearby!

Also, don’t forget the whole ecosystem. Yes you may not want to do phone calls 
or messages, but for example, using Siri to play music during a workout, or 
even just having Siri capability, is sometimes rewarding and itself.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2023, at 10:01 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I have used both, however, it’s been about 8 years since I’ve used a FitBit. 
>  I would go for the Apple Watch.  The accessibility is better, and you can 
> get more information and do more things with it.
> 
> You do control the Fitbit with the app.  The app is accessible—or at least it 
> was—but the Fitbit itself was not, at the time I tried it.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2023, at 9:06 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
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>> Anyone on here use a fit bit?  If so, do you control it with an app or what?
>> 
>> What's better, the apple watch or the fit bit?  I am specifically wanting to 
>> have my health data, don't really care about phone calls or texting with the 
>> watch..
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
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Re: Video journaling apps for iPhone?

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Yes, in iOS 17 Apple is actually creating a journal app. I have not looked at 
it myself to know it’s in there wasn’t sure if there was anything for videos. 
Your trip sounds fun! Hopefully you’ll share some details once you go on it. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi Joseph,
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> Thanks! When you talk about Apple, are you talking about Mac Journal?  Right 
> now it doesn’t include video.
> 
> I’ve got some time.  My husband and I are planning a trip to Europe next 
> summer, and I thought I would explore my options and try out possible apps 
> before we go.  Like you, I usually just write text, but for this trip, I 
> thought a video journal might be kind of fun.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2023, at 4:17 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> I use Day One! I think they have a feature where you can do video. I 
>> typically do text and audio and it works. Super awesome! I like it because I 
>> can use it on the Mac iPhone, etc. I’m kind of curious to see what Apple 
>> does with their journal app so I’m a little hesitant in recommending 
>> anything. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Have any of you used a video journaling app?  If yes, is there one that is 
>>> accessible for IOS?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Video journaling apps for iPhone?

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I use Day One! I think they have a feature where you can do video. I typically 
do text and audio and it works. Super awesome! I like it because I can use it 
on the Mac iPhone, etc. I’m kind of curious to see what Apple does with their 
journal app so I’m a little hesitant in recommending anything. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi all,
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> Have any of you used a video journaling app?  If yes, is there one that is 
> accessible for IOS?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari

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Hey Michael, the website I use typically for this too is also something for 
work so sadly, I can’t share it! I’ll try to find something though and share to 
the group. If nothing else what I might try is do a screen recording so those 
who don’t have this issue  can actually hear it because it’s rather annoying. I 
also thought it might be a setting because my desktop doesn’t seem to do it as 
much as my laptop does, which is strange. I even updated to the newest beta to 
see if it was still show the problem and of course it does! Using the iPad and 
doing the same table navigation on the website though works so it’s definitely 
some thing on the max end which is weird because I thought they would be 
similar.

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> On Jun 24, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'll second that I have issues with tables in some instances in Safari.
> 
> It would be interesting if anyone can share some site that they experience 
> issues with to see if other people are, as maybe it's a configuration issue 
> that some of us have not made an order to navigate tables. All of the tables 
> I have problems with our internal tools that I cannot share access to, 
> however, it does pop up occasionally, and this is what pushed me to actually 
> purchase parallels. I wanted to actually work, and could not do that in 
> Safari, or edge with VoiceOver on the Mac, as the table would not allow you 
> to use your VoiceOver plus up and down, left and right keys in order to 
> navigate it at all. And, disabling the ability to group tables had no impact.
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi Joseph,
>> 
>> Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one, I guess.  For me it’s a little 
>> different. I interact with the table, but can’t read any of the columns.
>> 
>> I agree with you about the Safari busy thing.  That's sooo 
>> annoying!!! For a while now, I’ve kept a Mac and a Pc. I was really hoping 
>> the day was coming when I could ditch the PC, but it doesn’t sound like 
>> that’s going to happen any time soon.  It seems to me that Apple’s putting 
>> all of its energy into new products, when they ought to be working on 
>> tightening up the existing ones.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:16 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m actually having problems too. Usually what tends to happen is I can 
>>> read it sometimes but then if I go right then move left on a particular 
>>> row, it will completely mess up! From what I can see it tends to be a 
>>> Safari thing I’ve used edge and it seems to be a bit better there although 
>>> sometimes it still happens! It’s really annoying and actually has me 
>>> Considering selling my Mac. The Safari busy and now this really has me 
>>> contemplating whether or not this machine is worth the money.  The only 
>>> thing kind of keeping me from doing this is I just don’t like how Windows 
>>> works either. That being said, at least I can read tables and browse the 
>>> web fairly easy!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 06:27, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been using Ventura on two different machines since October, and have 
>>>>> not noticed any issue with tables in safari webpages. The behavior seems  
>>>>> consistent with previous versions of safari and the macOS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 07:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject says it all.  Since upgrading to Ventura, I find that very often 
>>>>> I am unable to read the content of tables in Safari.  Is there some trick 
>>>>> to this that I don’t know about?  If not, that is a huge miss by Apple.  
>>>>> There are lots of websites that use tables.  If there is, I’d appreciate 
>>>>> any help.
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Donna
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Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari

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I’m actually having problems too. Usually what tends to happen is I can read it 
sometimes but then if I go right then move left on a particular row, it will 
completely mess up! From what I can see it tends to be a Safari thing I’ve used 
edge and it seems to be a bit better there although sometimes it still happens! 
It’s really annoying and actually has me Considering selling my Mac. The Safari 
busy and now this really has me contemplating whether or not this machine is 
worth the money.  The only thing kind of keeping me from doing this is I just 
don’t like how Windows works either. That being said, at least I can read 
tables and browse the web fairly easy!

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> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I agree. 
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 06:27, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been using Ventura on two different machines since October, and have 
>> not noticed any issue with tables in safari webpages. The behavior seems  
>> consistent with previous versions of safari and the macOS.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 07:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all.  Since upgrading to Ventura, I find that very often I 
>> am unable to read the content of tables in Safari.  Is there some trick to 
>> this that I don’t know about?  If not, that is a huge miss by Apple.  There 
>> are lots of websites that use tables.  If there is, I’d appreciate any help.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Does anyone know why voiceover voice volume fluctuates when using a Bluetooth speaker or CarPlay?

[joseph hodge]

Donna, I really wish this was true but I’ve been reporting this issue since iOS 
13. I’ve long given up hope I actually left for android for a while so 
annoying. Android has its own problems, but Samsung especially has this thing 
called separate app. Sounds you can choose five apps and interchange them at 
any time that basically when you connect to a Bluetooth speaker audio from 
those apps plays to the speaker and everything else remains on your phone. It’s 
awesome! I remember the times were Apple things just used to work sadly that’s 
not the case anymore. Their AirPods are a great case of this where I have 
floating sound constantly. If I connect the same AirPods to my android device, 
it does not do that so it’s clearly on Apple‘s end. Anyway, here’s hoping it 
gets fixed and we can all drink about it and laugh and remember how annoyed we 
used to be back in the day that this happened.

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> On May 11, 2023, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> You might want to write to accessibility, too.  The more people they hear 
> from, the more likely they are to fix the problem.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 11, 2023, at 3:15 PM, 'Candie Bridges' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Donna.
>> 
>> I also experience this. I would love to find a fix, as I really don’t like 
>> loud screen reader voices, especially on my devices. 
>> Audio ducking is off on my phone, but it still gets very loud, then drops, 
>> then loud again, as you wrote. I’ve tried even turning the VoiceOver volume 
>> down to 5%, with no change.
>> 
>> Sorry I can’t offer any solution; looks like we’re stuck with this for now.
>> 
>> I agree with Herbie’s response; it wants to be extremely annoying. Smiles. 
>> It certainly succeeds in that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Candie
>> 
 On 11 May 2023, at 19:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am currently pairing my phone with a Bluetooth speaker, because our 
>>> Internet is out, and I’m having a problem that I have frequently 
>>> encountered when using CarPlay. If I try to use the phone while music is 
>>> playing, the voice volume of voiceover is very erratic. It’s normal and 
>>> then it jumps up and is really loud and then it jumps back down and it’s 
>>> normal and it alternates probably every few seconds. Does anyone know why 
>>> this happens? And more importantly, does anybody know a way to stop it from 
>>> happening?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna 
>>> 
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Re: New HomePods?

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I love the idea of being able to send messages or FaceTime call from the device I think probably for me the best bet would get some thing like the mini because I didn’t find the music experience to be that great on the bigger HomePod as I said, I’m not a bass head, so it really wasn’t geared towards someone like myself. I’ve never had the issues Donna had with Sonos, so I’m not sure what’s up with that. It could be that she’s using the old legacy Sonos speakers, and I have the newer ones not sure. I just don’t necessarily like the whole HomePod because it’s another link to keep me in the Apple ecosystem as they can’t do Bluetooth or casting or anything outside of airplay. I just don’t wanna be trapped by the wall garden that much especially as Apple continually gets more buggy, and there becomes somewhat more of a reason for me to leave.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 30, 2023, at 5:28 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:I have not heard the HomePod in person, but do own a couple of HomePod minis.I also have 2 of the Sonos 1 speakers. With Airplay 2 it is quite nice to get the minis and Sonos talking with each other.Start music in the kitchen and then tell SIRI to Play it in the Living Room.I'm just using the Sonos assistant on the two Sonos ones that I have in the living room, and Siri for now is working though I'm hoping come WWDC in June there's some improvements To the entire experience with Siri!bestMichael - KJ7PAZOn Mar 30, 2023, at 9:56 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:I bought one and brought it in and tested. I didn’t like it. Too much bass. Even when I turned off the base option in the Home app, it still just sounded tinny then. I much prefer what Sonos is offering. Also, Siri still does her miraculous things like on it still searching. It’s just not for me until Apple fixes this stuff.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 30, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Michael Babcock  wrote:I didn't hear them personally, but it's my understanding and my observations over an Internet connection that the new HomePods have a more brighter sound, and do sound a little cleaner. Everyone who I've heard that owns these devices, loves them and feel that the investment into them is well worth it. Hope this helps a little! Have a beautiful day and safe travels.On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:33 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Oh great! Looking forward to listening to it. But I’m actually about to be in transit to the local Apple store, or I should say nearest Apple store, which is about two hours away. Any chance you could summarize your Takeaway?Thanks,DonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 30, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:Hi Donna!We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link. I hope it helps!On Mar 30, 2023, at 7:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Just wondering if anyone has had a chance to try out the latest gen HomePods yet.  If yes, thoughts? Are they worth the upgrade?TIA,Donna-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4A85D5F1-A4EF-4D55-8722-B10EC93CCE2B%40me.com.

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Re: New HomePods?

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Re: Pocket Cast Plus

[joseph hodge]

I have and use it! It's what I call usable it could use a little work, but you 
could at least resume episodes where you left off from your iPhone and do what 
you need to do at least for me. We all use things a little bit different so 
depending on what you're wanting to do, you may have mixed results, but at 
least were playing where I left off. It works pretty good!

> On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, has anyone tried Pocket Cast on the Mac? I wondered if it is 
> VoiceOver accessible. I really enjoy the iOs app.
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> Thanks,
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Re: Accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver

[joseph hodge]

Just wanted to give my opinion here. The Mac is really good with Bluetooth
and other devices! For example on Windows even using the Jaws cut off
speech option Bluetooth is still flaky for me. I like the fact that I can
just pick up my airpods and connect to them with my Mac it's seamless just
like on ios. This is a huge thing as it allows me to use my Mac however I
want when I want. I also like the structure of just the normal operating
system itself within the file explorer or finder I guess. Accessibility on
the web is a bit hit and miss for me but between Safari and Microsoft edge
I'm honestly pretty happy! I also recently created a virtual machine so if
by chance something just won't work I can always use Windows and even
though there are some sacrifices within the Mac operating system in that
that I can't necessarily create a great way for an nvda or Jaws key it
works enough for my use case. I was highly disappointed when shopping for
Windows devices recently compared to the price of the mac! Value for dollar
the Mac just wins every time with the great speakers body etc! I've been
listening to Jonathan mosin and it's kind of comical to hear all the issues
he's had with Windows machines I've never really had any problem with any
Mac I've ever had! That's only been two I think in the last 3 years he's
gone through three different Windows machines lol!

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> What does the Mac do better for you? I struggle a bit with advanced web
> stuff, like moving quickly through Salesforce and Google Docs on Safari.
> Devin Prater
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> On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:51 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I think overall the Mac is more accessible! Is it perfect? No, there are
> some things that could be better. But things like making websites
> accessible will go a long way. I feel like the main reason people s
> struggle is they don’t know VO Shortcuts. I am also a Jaws user and I think
> the Mac is much better!.
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> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
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> Thank you.
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Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[joseph hodge]

Stereo means that you’d have two speakers so to answer your question no. You 
can just have one HomePod and it would be mono but still have good sound and 
should be sufficient. That being said some folks like stereo and some folks 
don’t care so its a preference thing.

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 6:34 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Hmm, can I use just one HomePod for stereo playback?
> I am not a rich man so 2 HomePods are to much for me right now.
> Bless
> /A
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>> 19 jan. 2023 kl. 05:35 skrev M. Taylor :
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
>> Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos✅   ✅   ❌
>> Room sensing ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Beamforming  ✅   ✅   ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen)✅   ✅   ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning   Computational 
>> audio for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio  ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K✅   ✅   ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅   ✅   ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2HomePod 1   HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri   ✅   ✅   ✅
>> Thread/Matter✅   ❌   ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac802.11n
>> Bluetooth5.0 5.0 5.0
>> U1 chip  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Apple SiliconS7  A8  S5
>> Sound recognition✅ (likely this spring)  ❌   ✅ (likely this spring)
>> Temperature and humidity sensor  ✅   ❌   ✅
>> Intercom ✅   ✅   ✅
>> 
>> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the 
>> original but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch 
>> surface also appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
>> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
>> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to 
>> the switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
>> 
>> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
>> that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.
>> 
>> Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
>> release:
>> Speakers and mics
>> HomePod 2 internals via Apple 
>> 
>> There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
>> First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has 
>> a 4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by 

Re: Anyone Having a Problem with Nightowl?

[joseph hodge]

Interestingly, for me, Twitterrific doesn't work on the iOS side, but on the 
Mac, it works fine!

> On Jan 16, 2023, at 4:50 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
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> If it comes to it I’ll use the Twitter client for iPhone.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
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> 
>> On 14 Jan 2023, at 22:23, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, I appreciate the information everyone. It does seem very deliberate 
>> on Twitter’s part and if they do end up disabling all third party apps like 
>> this permanently, it might be what pushes me over the edge to just stop 
>> using Twitter. I’ve been thinking about it for a while anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> THe issue is that quite a few third party twitter clients are experiencing 
>>> this right now. Its not just night owl. 
>>> 
>>> Greg Wocher
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Brandon Olivares  
 wrote:
 
 For the last two days, any time I open NightOwl, it asks me to 
 reauthenticate Twitter. Which is fine, but the page to do so doesn’t 
 actually load, and it constantly plays the error sound again and again and 
 again. I’m unable to do anything else.
 
 Is anyone else having this problem?
 
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Re: Why does my Apple Watch tell me the wrong date

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My wife has this same issue. I do not.

> On Dec 31, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Candie Bridges' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all.
> 
> My partner and I are using the modular face.
> We both have experienced this, before and after trading our series 6 for the 
> series 8. Restarting the watch fixes it, but it does seem to occur again.
> 
> Best wishes to everyone in the new year.
> 
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>> On 31 Dec 2022, at 7:09 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> 
>> There is not a bug on Watch OS 9.x, that I can reproduce.
>> 
>> Immediately after reading this thread, I checked the date on my watch and it 
>> is absolutely correct.  I called a local friend of mine and had her check 
>> her watch, with VoiceOver enabled, and she, too, heard both the correct time 
>> and date on her Apple Watch running the latest commercial release of the OS.
>> 
>> Both she and I are using the modular watch face.
>> 
>> So, I suggest that anyone experiencing a date problem, to try using a 
>> different watch face.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 9:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Why does my Apple Watch tell me the wrong date
>> 
>> I have not tried the date on my watch, but I have seen someone post a 
>> similar issue to yours in another group so this sounds like a major bug.
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2022, at 11:32, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> I have an Apple Watch SE 2021 running Watch OS 9.2 linked to an iPhone SE 
>>> 2020 running IOS 16.2.
>>> Whenever I check the time on my watch it gives me the correct time but 
>>> tells me that the date is yesterday’s date. I have just used the watch to 
>>> check the time today Saturday 31 December at 5:12 pm and the watch tells me 
>>> the correct time but with  the date Friday 30 December. When I check the 
>>> time around 8:00am tomorrow Sunday 1 January the watch will tell me that 
>>> the date is Saturday 31 December.
>>> When I check the date and time on my iPhone both time and date are correct.
>>> If I power off the watch and restart it the watch then tells me the correct 
>>> date but then gets it wrong the next day.
>>> This behaviour started happening after the recent upgrades to Watch OS 9.2 
>>> and IOS 16.2.
>>> Is this a bug in Watch OS 9.2 or have I somehow changed a critical Watch 
>>> setting?
>>> Many thanks for any ideas.
>>> Best regards and Happy New Year … Paul Hopewell
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Re: R.I.P Tim Kilburn

[joseph hodge]

Thanks for sharing Cliff. I enjoyed learning from Tim. My thoughts and prayers 
go out to his family.

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:52 PM, Kliph  wrote:
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>> It is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that our good Friend Tim 
>> Kilburn lost his battle with glioblastoma this past wednesday. He was a 
>> great co worker, he knew his apple products, and if he didn’t know it, then 
>> it hadn’t been invented yet.  We worked on a lot of projects over the years. 
>> He taught me a lot, and he will be missed greatly! Here at SturItUp, 
>> TTJTech.biz, and MacForTheBlind we send our condolences to his wife and 
>> Children. John Matt and I had great times with Tim, he had a one of a kind 
>> since of humor.  So again Tim, rest in Peace, and we will see you on the 
>> other side. Your life time Student.
>> Kliph!
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Re: runningios apps on the mac

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Hi Mike I use several apps myself! One is called Sports alerts I love it
because I'm able to use the same app on my iPhone and iPad to see sports
scores and alerts which is awesome because before I had to go to websites
that weren't as accessible and were riddled with ads. I also use a few
games such as choose your face. I play dice world! All of the blindfold
games are not working due to how they interface I believe with another text
to speech engine as well as touch yes the Mac has a touchpad but it doesn't
quite work the same as touchdowns on iOS therefore I think some of the apps
just don't work as well! I also use and love the HBO Max app it works
really flawlessly on my Mac to watch shows there if I want it to!

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> Hi everyone, I’m wondering if anyone has tried running IOS apps on an
> Apple silicon Mac and if so, how well do they work with Voiceover? Do the
> controls read? I am absolutely loving my new M1 mac minis and M2 MacBook
> Air. For those who have not tried an Apple silicon Mac yet, they are
> awesome and I think Ventura has some really nice features.
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

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Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group and 
interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having that 
issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go to a 
> different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I do love the 
> responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is interesting with not having 
> to unlock.
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>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
>> rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is 
>> cool.
>> 
>> Joe
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>>> Hi!
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>>> Ventura is out.
>>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
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Re: MacOs Ventura is Out.

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I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally can get 
rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the Wifi option is cool.

Joe

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> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
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Can you addd a website to the doc or desktop?

[joseph hodge]

I have of course did some googling on this and it says you can drag and drop 
the address from the address bar to the desktop or doc to create a place marker 
to launch the app you'd like. However with voiceover I'm unsure of how to do 
this exactly. Does anyone know if we can take a website and put it on the dock 
or the desktop? If so can you explain how to do so? Thanks!

Joe

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Re: P-cloud on a Mac

[joseph hodge]

Hi Lory,

Once you click download press function shift control option right arrow to move 
to the bottom of the window. Here you should see download as zip or download to 
my cloud choose the zip option so it starts downloading. Its basically a pop up 
that doesn’t capture Voiceovers focus.


> On Jul 9, 2022, at 9:13 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm trying to download a file from P-cloud with my Mac. I check the folder I 
> want and then press download. nothing happens. what am I missing?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: VOiceDream Reader is out for Mac.

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There is easy keyboard navigation so for example command shift right arrow I 
think moves forward command shift left arrow moves back by your specific set 
amount. As far as things it can read I know it can read Daisy PDF etc. not sure 
about the format you listed. It can sync with your iCloud so you can continue 
reading where you left off on your phone which is nice. Just not sure it's 
subscription were they nice

> On May 2, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Michael Marshall  
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> Just curious to know if there are any advantages of using this program over 
> books on the mac?
> i take it m4b files can be read?
> 
>> On 3 May 2022, at 9:41 am, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> My issue with it here is that it's sort of brakes with voice dream really 
>> brought to the table and that is multiple text to speech engines. I 
>> understand this is sort of a Mac limitation but still if that's the case 
>> it's not worth it. Speech central is already on the Mac and does most of 
>> what it can do. Maybe I'm missing something here but I really feel like the 
>> developer doesn't really understand the blindness community. I think his 
>> heart is in the right place don't give me wrong but at the same time I'm not 
>> sure there's a need for this.
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 7:36 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>>> I agree.
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2022, at 18:03, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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>>>> I'm not going to pay $4.95 per month. I'll stick with using the one on my 
>>>> iPhone.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2022, at 17:54, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>>>> Yes, but I believe it is spelled Voice Dream. It’s $4.95 a month.
>>>> 
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>>>>> Hi!
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>>>>> release.
>>>>> Its called VOiceDream Reader for desktop and is a subscription for those 
>>>>> of you interested.
>>>>> Its in the App Store where I have downloaded it.
>>>>> /A
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Re: VOiceDream Reader is out for Mac.

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My issue with it here is that it's sort of brakes with voice dream really 
brought to the table and that is multiple text to speech engines. I understand 
this is sort of a Mac limitation but still if that's the case it's not worth 
it. Speech central is already on the Mac and does most of what it can do. Maybe 
I'm missing something here but I really feel like the developer doesn't really 
understand the blindness community. I think his heart is in the right place 
don't give me wrong but at the same time I'm not sure there's a need for this.

> On May 2, 2022, at 7:36 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I agree.
> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 18:03, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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>> I'm not going to pay $4.95 per month. I'll stick with using the one on my 
>> iPhone.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 17:54, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but I believe it is spelled Voice Dream. It’s $4.95 a month.
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 15:15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>> Hi!
>>> I saw on another list that VOiceDream Reader is out for Mac with a final 
>>> release.
>>> Its called VOiceDream Reader for desktop and is a subscription for those of 
>>> you interested.
>>> Its in the App Store where I have downloaded it.
>>> /A
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

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I love mine as well! They have a great sound and are some of my favorite noise 
canceling headphones! The build is just outstanding. I do wish Apple had made a 
better case for them I ended up buying a hardshow case on Amazon for them but 
ultimately they're a great pair of headphones! The ability to switch from my 
iPhone to my Apple TV seamlessly is awesome as well! My only other complaint I 
guess would be that they didn't put a power button which means there is some 
battery drain overtime and it's unpredictable what that will be! That's where I 
kind of get annoyed the most with these but you can charge and listen at the 
same time if you forgot to put them on a charger.

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
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> Oh God yes!  Are used to take pictures of myself wearing them! Then somebody 
> said you should not be walking around town with those on your head! But 
> believe me the ambience is so good in ambience mode that you can hear 
> everything it’s like immersive hearing aids with music in the background but 
> but yeah I would probably be better off taking those off when I cross the 
> street but I was that bad I’ll have them on all the time. All that said, I 
> think they would be great to fly with, with one caveat they are heavy! And a 
> bit bulky too, but I still love them.
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> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
>> quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my 
>> ear, and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few 
>> weeks back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next 
>> several years.  I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one 
>> of them will fall out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about 
>> investing in a good set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been 
>> happy with my Airpods Pro, the Max are currently at the top of my list..
>> 
>> Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons? 
>> TIA,
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Re: Frndly TV

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I tried it around a year ago. It was okay but viewing the guide for channels 
was problematic. I think if you just want to pull a channel up and watch its 
fine but for other features it was a struggle. That being said maybe in a year 
things have changed. Also I never tried using screen recignation recognition so 
that may also provide some help.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Has anyone tried this streaming service on Apple TV or iOS? Is it usable?
> https://try.frndlytv.com/channels/gac-family?msclkid=96a016476c2d1984340c7418370a995e_source=bing_medium=cpc_campaign=Search%20Brand_term=friendly%20tv_content=Brand%20(Phrase)
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Re: Does anyone use Chromecast?

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Filebrowser has chromecast support as does Netflix. It all depends what
your wanting to watch. Filebrowser would give you the ability to watch
files from your device.

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> Hi all,
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> The hotel I’m staying in has cut Chromecast, and if we want to watch
> movies, that is what we have to use. Anyone using Chromecast from their
> phone? What app do you use? Do you use Google homeg hi all,
>
> The hotel we are staying in has Chromecast, and we have to use that if we
> want to watch movies. Anyone currently using it from their iPhone? If yes,
> what app are you using? I see Google home in the App Store, but that kind
> of seems like overkill, since all we wanna do is watch movies on TV at
> night. Appreciate any input, suggestions, directions, etc.
> Thanks,
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Re: OT: A bit of personal news

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Hi Donna I wish you great luck and for you have a positive outcome! I’ll be 
thinking about you and hoping things go well!

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> Hi Christine,
> 
> Thanks so much!  So far only one of the participants had a negative 
> consequence from the procedure, and apparently, it was just temporary.  So, 
> though there is risk, I feel pretty confident that it’s fairly low.
> 
> Send me your private email, and I’ll be happy to keep you updated.  My email 
> is doniado...@me.com.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:47 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Wow! I wish you the very, very best and helping science move forward is 
>> awesome, if it doesn’t drastically change your life in a negative way. I 
>> would very much like to know how this is going for you. I don’t have your 
>> direct address, but would like to be informed.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Warning, this is a little long.  I’ve debated whether or not to share this 
>>> with the list, but I’ve known many of you in this community for a long time 
>>> now, so I thought I would, since it could potentially be of interest to 
>>> others here who have my same visual condition.  If you don’t want to read, 
>>> feel free to hit the delete key. :)
>>> 
>>> Last fall, , National Public Radio did a story about a clinical trial that 
>>> was being conducted using a new gene editing technique called CRISPR to 
>>> treat Liber’s Congenital Amaurosis, which is the condition that caused my 
>>> blindness.  Being an inquisitive sort, I decided to try and find out more.  
>>> My cousin who works in genetics was able to track down the study, and I 
>>> subsequently volunteered to be a participant.
>>> 
>>> The whole story is long, but here’s a synopsis.  I went to Portland OR in 
>>> November, where they had to do a genetic panel to make sure I was a match 
>>> for the specific genetic mutation that they’re studying.  Shortly before 
>>> Christmas, I received the news that I am in fact a match, and that I had 
>>> been accepted for participation in the trial.  There followed a fair amount 
>>> of pre-surgery stuff, such as having a congenital cataract removed in order 
>>> to give the surgeon better access to my retina.  But all that is now done, 
>>> and I leave on Wednesday for Portland.  The procedure will be performed on 
>>> April 12.
>>> 
>>> Crispr is pretty amazing stuff.  It has a lot of promise in a wide variety 
>>> of applications that could make many people’s lives better.  My layperson’s 
>>> explanation of it is that they will turn a tiny bot armed with scissors 
>>> loose in my retina.  The bots’ job will be to cut out the malfunctioning 
>>> area of the gene and mend it, so that the gene starts to produce the 
>>> necessary proteins to send visual information to the brain.  Over time, 
>>> this is expected to produce a gradual improvement in my vision.  For a more 
>>> medically based explanation, you can check out this link: 
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0493-4.
>>> 
>>> I know that we all have different feelings about the “cure.”  As for me 
>>> personally, I have never sought it out.  In fact, many who know me were 
>>> surprised that I volunteered for the trial—to some extent, including 
>>> myself. I do have some vision, and I do use the vision that I have, so I 
>>> wouldn’t say no to any improvement, should that be the outcome.  But my 
>>> primary motivation for volunteering was to help further the science, and 
>>> whatever my personal outcome, I’m excited to be a part of that.  So far, 
>>> none of the participants has had reason to go out and buy a new car, so, my 
>>> expectation is that, while I may see better, the overall picture of my life 
>>> won’t change that much.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Though I do experience moments when I wonder if I’m certifiably insane for 
>>> letting someone take a pair of pruning shears to my genes, I’m  optimistic 
>>> and excited at the prospect of leaving this legacy for others who have LCA.
>>> 
>>> If you’ve read all this, thanks for reading.  It is not currently my plan 
>>> to send updates to the list, because it is off-topic and will not be of 
>>> interest to everyone.  But if you want to be updated, let me know, and I 
>>> can email you privately.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Updated Audio Hijack Released

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I have found a few unlabeled buttons that I reported but overall its a  nice 
upgrade.

> On Mar 31, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I just recently started using the Audio Hijack program and found it solid 
> previously.  They released a major update today that adds a lot more 
> functionality.
>  
>  
> Rogue Amoeba | Audio Hijack: Record Any Audio on MacOS 
> 
>  
> Full details are in this blog post at:
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> Rogue Amoeba - Under the Microscope » Blog Archive » Audio Hijack 4 Has 
> Arrived! 
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Re: Plain Text Sports

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I looked at this with Android and chose NBA I was able to see scores but
had a lot of random text like you said. Honestly with the m1 macs I use
sports alerts just like my iPhone and it works awesome.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 6:48 PM Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

> This is an interesting web site. It seems from first glance to not work
> well with Safari and VoiceOver (at least without a Braille display ). I saw
> this on the Daring Fireball blog. From my looking at it, the sport scores
> seem to be embedded in a field that VO reads as "plus".
> This could be a real benefit for the blind sports lover if we can get a
> good understanding of its design.
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> https://plaintextsports.com/
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Re: The Apple Event. What do people think?

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For me the Mac studio is only that wouldn’t appeal to me anyway it’s meant for 
really professional folks that need top of the line computing. Probably 100% of 
us on this list that doesn’t apply for. The iPhone SE is not my preferred line 
but for those folks who need 5G and wanna cheap solution I think it’s a great 
option. I don’t think we’ll see much in June that’s usually developer 
conference they typically don’t release any actual products. One of the things 
I thought was cool was the iPad Air getting the M1 chip as a blind individual 
there’s less than less reason for needing the pro if you wanted an iPad. I was 
disappointed with the configuration I think 64 is just way too little at this 
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Re: Accessing Download Folder?

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Not sure where you did your Covid vaccination but I did mine at Walgreens and 
in the Walgreens app was a place where I could export to Apple wallet. I know 
the same is true if you can view it through your my chart as well if you have 
that. Not sure about actually downloading it and trying to put it in Apple 
wallet as I would assume it would have to be some sort of format. 

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:57 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> You can try  Command Shit L from your finder and see if that works. Also, 
> from spotlight, you can point to the file and do a Command R which will 
> reveal the folder.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 21:55, Fazil M. > > wrote:
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>> Hi, Group.
>> I have downloaded my Vaccination passport and found it in SpotLight search. 
>> How can I access download folder and copy it in my iPhone wallet?
>> Thanks!
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Re: Seeing AI on M1 Mac?

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It used to be on the M1 version before Apple patched it! You could’ve installed 
it with the imazing sweet however that way is now blocked unfortunately. When I 
tried it though it didn’t work as expected I had high hopes back in the day for 
it but the FaceTime camera was not very good!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2022, at 5:08 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> MacOS will do the text recognition on its own.  Simply press VO-shift-l.  You 
> may need to press this command twice as the first time often gives a false 
> response.
> 
> If Seeing AI is available on Mac, I’d be surprised.  Although, I love 
> surprises :).
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 14:48, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is Seeing AI available on Mac with M1 device?
>> 
>> If yes, is it as usable as on iPhone or there is a difference?
>> 
>> Of course I know that the app won’t be use for anything other than existing 
>> photos, but it would be great to have it on Mac when text recognition is 
>> required on Mac beside Apple’s AI.
>> 
>> Regards,
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Does anyone know a good podcast or demo

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I’d like to learn more about using VoiceOver to follow mouse or keyboard 
separately and best cases for this. Does anyone know any podcasts or trainings 
that look at this in detail?

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Re: Braille on IOS

[joseph hodge]

Hi Kawal,

Using braille on the Mac with a topical display with the Perkins keyboard is 
quite challenging as they don't have a lot of commands to jump around the 
operating system. However using something like the Mantis from APH and 
Humanware is much easier as it is a full qwerty keyboard with a braille display 
under it. Hims also has the qx braille but looking at documentation for it it 
seems kind of complicated as you have to go between keyboard mode and braille 
mode. Maybe someone with that display can chime in here to speak on that. All 
that being said I would say Mac support is a bit sluggish overall and feels 
like Apple hasn't paid as much attention to it as iOS. It works, but doesn’t 
seem to feel as snappy as Windows.

Joe

> On Feb 15, 2022, at 5:22 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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Having trouble getting the battery slider for screen time out to stick

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If I go to system preferences and then battery and choose to have the screen 
not fall asleep for let's say 12 minutes as soon as I back out of that option 
move down to power then back up the battery it goes back to the default of two 
minutes. Does anyone know how to make this setting stick with VoiceOver?

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Re: Has anyone else noticed that since the last update, their Homepods are a hot mess?

[joseph hodge]

I agree this sounds awful. It’s honestly one of the reasons I’ve kind of given 
up on voice assistance for now you never know what you’re going to get. Alexa 
is often OK but then randomly it doesn’t work. I guess we could say the same 
for operating systems to appoint but I like the old way of just using Sonos to 
the phone or airplane etc. Hope this gets fixed by Apple because it’s 
ridiculous that it’s not working for you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:07 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Huh!  Weird.  Nope, no joy here.  I was finally able to get Siri to play the 
> album I want by telling her to play artist, keep saying next track till she 
> played one from the album I wanted, and then say Play Album.  But it just 
> shouldn’t be that hard.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:48 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> All good with Siri up here in Canada.  I asked four different times to play 
>> albums.
>> 
>> 1.  Hey Siri, play Taproot Manuscript by Neil Diamond.
>> 2.  Hey Siri, play Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys.
>> 3.  Hey Siri, play the album 1X by Three Days Grace
>> 4.  Hey Siri, play Divide by Ed Sheeran.
>> 
>> Each one worked as it should.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, Tim,
>>> 
>>> I’ll be curious to hear what you find out.  I have converted albums with 
>>> unusual or foreign language names to playlist, and I agree that does make 
>>> it easier to play them
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I haven’t experienced this on my HomePods.  Although, I seldom ask Siri to 
 play an album per se.  I usually ask her to play a specific playlist from 
 my library, or to play music that I like.  I will check on this though 
 when I get home.
 
 PS.  If you do decide to dispose of your HomePods, let me know and I’ll 
 take the full-sized ones off your hands :).
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 08:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> When they work, they are awesome.  And mine were working fine until this 
> last update.  I do think Apple broke something in a big way.  As much as 
> I like the HomePod and the mini, at the point that you spend a half hour 
> just trying to play an album and aren’t even successful in the end, they 
> aren’t worth it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna!
>> You sem to have a lot of trouble with your home pod.
>> I don’t own one because they’re not sold in Sweden I think.
>> But I thank you for indirectly recommending something else.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 8 feb. 2022 kl. 14:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So, I just spent a half hour trying to get an album to play on my 
>>> Homepod and various Sonos speakers.  Eventually, I just gave up and 
>>> played it on the Sonos speakers using the Sonos app.  And since the 
>>> last update, this has been happening at least once a day.  I regularly 
>>> get one of two error messages, either the Homepod can’t find the 
>>> requested content in my Apple Music library, or that it can’t find the 
>>> speaker.  It doesn’t seem to matter whether I’m using Siri on the 
>>> Homepod, or trying to play music from either my phone or iPad. And yes, 
>>> I have unplugged and reconnected the HomePod, and also done a reset.  
>>> WT*!  If this doesn’t get fixed soon, my Homepods and minis are going 
>>> in the garbage, and I’ll never buy another Apple speaker again.
>>> 
>>> Would love to know if others are experiencing this, and/or if anyone’s 
>>> found a solution.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Has anyone else notied that since the last update, their Homepods are a hot mess?

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What happens if you just use Siri on the phone and not try to go to the HomePod 
does it play it then? In other words just using your phone and asking Siri to 
play the album does it play the album in question? I would troubleshoot there 
first because if I can play it on the iPhone then yes definitely it’s a HomePod 
problem if it can’t then I would assume it’s some thing with a change or Siri 
just not understanding.

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> On Feb 8, 2022, at 11:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I haven’t experienced this on my HomePods.  Although, I seldom ask Siri to 
> play an album per se.  I usually ask her to play a specific playlist from my 
> library, or to play music that I like.  I will check on this though when I 
> get home.
> 
> PS.  If you do decide to dispose of your HomePods, let me know and I’ll take 
> the full-sized ones off your hands :).
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 08:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> When they work, they are awesome.  And mine were working fine until this 
>> last update.  I do think Apple broke something in a big way.  As much as I 
>> like the HomePod and the mini, at the point that you spend a half hour just 
>> trying to play an album and aren’t even successful in the end, they aren’t 
>> worth it.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna!
>>> You sem to have a lot of trouble with your home pod.
>>> I don’t own one because they’re not sold in Sweden I think.
>>> But I thank you for indirectly recommending something else.
>>> /A
>>> 
 8 feb. 2022 kl. 14:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 :
 
 Hi all,
 
 So, I just spent a half hour trying to get an album to play on my Homepod 
 and various Sonos speakers.  Eventually, I just gave up and played it on 
 the Sonos speakers using the Sonos app.  And since the last update, this 
 has been happening at least once a day.  I regularly get one of two error 
 messages, either the Homepod can’t find the requested content in my Apple 
 Music library, or that it can’t find the speaker.  It doesn’t seem to 
 matter whether I’m using Siri on the Homepod, or trying to play music from 
 either my phone or iPad. And yes, I have unplugged and reconnected the 
 HomePod, and also done a reset.  WT*!  If this doesn’t get fixed soon, my 
 Homepods and minis are going in the garbage, and I’ll never buy another 
 Apple speaker again.
 
 Would love to know if others are experiencing this, and/or if anyone’s 
 found a solution.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
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Discovered something I hadn't found online recently on my Apple TV

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I know this list is primarily for the Mac but we also sometimes talk about 
other products from Apple. Hoping this helps someone out there that may have 
found themselves in the same situation I was in. I recently bought an Apple TV 
with a new Siri remote. I didn't really like the touch gestures in that you 
have to do them in this ring. So I turn touch off which led me to a new problem 
how can I close apps in the app switcher? When pulling up the app switcher by 
pressing the home button twice on the remote voiceover still indicates that you 
have to use the rotor and flick up from actions of course since you've disable 
touch this does not work. What does work though is just pressing up twice on 
the circle pad. It closes apps fine. I'm wondering why Apple doesn't actually 
indicate this to you when you change that setting as voiceover should be able 
to detect if touch is off? Anyway hope this helps have a great day everyone!

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Re: Apple Pay

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I asked my sister this yesterday because she works for Walmart in their 
Internet portion and it’s still that way here. The crazy thing for me is that 
she told me in their stores they are literally using iPhones to do their 
stocking of shelves now they no longer use separate scanners. So I love the 
hypocrisy that they’re using here and that we can use iPhones for scanning in 
our products but we can’t use iPhones for Apple Pay.  The crazier part to me is 
that ultimately they’re putting the scanning of products in for inventory on 
the workers requiring them to use their own cell phone. She wasn’t clear of 
android had scanning apps I assume they do she only knew about iPhone having 
them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2022, at 12:17 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi. Interesting that y'all in the States can't use Apple Pay At Walmart. I 
> live in Winnipeg Canada and the Walmarts here finally started allowing Apple 
> Pay as an option. So yeah, I use it all the time and like Kawal, I mostly use 
> my watch for it unless it's charging at which point I use my iPhone SE 2020.
> 
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> Shawn,
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
>> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>>> they wouldn’t.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 ApplePay is accepted at Target.
 Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
 Walmart.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
 
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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple 
> Pay.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. 
>> And I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
 setting up. thanks.
 
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
> point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

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Thank you for explaining. I hope I wasn't being rude by asking it just crossed 
my mind lol.  

Sent from my iPhone

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>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:56 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> My only question is since Google kicked you guys off the first time what 
>> makes the second group any different? I’m just worried that people are going 
>> to sign up just to have the same issue arise who knows when! It would just 
>> be interesting to know why Google did this so the second time around it 
>> doesn’t repeat itself hopefully you guys figure that out soon. I understand 
>> that other services cost money so not ideal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

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My only question is since Google kicked you guys off the first time what makes 
the second group any different? I’m just worried that people are going to sign 
up just to have the same issue arise who knows when! It would just be 
interesting to know why Google did this so the second time around it doesn’t 
repeat itself hopefully you guys figure that out soon. I understand that other 
services cost money so not ideal.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi All,
> 
> I have some good news!
> 
> Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :)
> 
> For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least 
> until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there.
> 
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> 
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Re: Apple Pay

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Just chiming in here greg is correct. Walmart is trying to push their own app 
and agenda for payments so they don’t allow for Apple Pay. It’s so ridiculous 
but that’s America. I forget what they called there app but when I last heard 
about it it was doing a lot of tracking. That’s what makes us payment stuff 
kind of tough being blind because you can’t automatically just assume something 
takes Apple Pay even if it’s a newer terminal.

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>> they wouldn’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>> Walmart.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
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 On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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 About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
 
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
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> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>> setting up. thanks.
>>> 
 On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
 there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
 point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
 
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
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> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Recording radio programs on an iPhone

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I’m not sure of any iPhone app that can work with this maybe screen recorder. 
The only way I would know how to do this is to hook it up to like a Mac and use 
audio hijack. iOS is pretty restrictive when it comes to recording app content.

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> Hi.
> 
> I recently heard a program on local radio that fascinated me. I would like to 
> record it before it disappears. The local radio stations let you listen to 
> the program for up to a week before it is removed from their list of 
> offerings.
> 
> I am looking for an app that will enable me to record such offerings and 
> listen to them whenever I would like.  While I own two apps that let me 
> record live radio streams, I don’t have anything that allows me to record 
> audio output that comes directly from a URL.  Your thoughts would be greatly 
> appreciated.
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> With warm regards from Austria,
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Re: Conflict between sending mail from mac and receiving on a PC

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Dave suggestion is really good and that could be the cause although I’m not 
sure if you did that and sent that message just a bit ago. The other thought I 
had was it could be a font issue. I have this issue come up once when using Mac 
while at work while others were on windows. I had a font that some folks didn’t 
have. Wondering if it could be that? 

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> 
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> I'll try to explain my situation and see if anyone has come across this or 
> has any thoughts. 
> 
> 
> I'm the president of a board and we have an email list not unlike this one. 
> When I send emails to the list it seems people reading them on a mac or 
> iPhone can read the text of the emails but for pretty much any members who 
> are reading the emails on a PC does not see the text. They are able to access 
> any attachments but the rest of the body of the email appears blank. One of 
> my board members has tested this by looking at the emails on both his PC and 
> his iPhone. 
> 
> 
> I very much look forward to hearing any suggestions. 
> 
> Thank you, 
> 
> 
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Re: HBO max?

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I just started a subscription would be happy to help just let me know what your 
looking for.

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 10:26 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
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> Happy new year  everyone,
> This may or may not be slightly off topic.
> Still, does anyone here subscribe to HBO max, enough so they could check 
> something for me?
> There are a couple of programs that are being identified as presented with 
> described Video.
> Their presentation in Canada, done differently, as in on the air, state the 
> same, but no description is being provided.
> The latter comment is not necessarily the focus of my question however.
> If you do use HBO max could you confirm something, even if off list?
> Thanks profoundly,
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Re: Voice Dream Reader Coming To Mac

[joseph hodge]

I'm thinking this may not be possible. It seems like the IOS version has a 
lot of exclusive content that hes never ported over to the the android 
version either. I also remember talking to the developer of speech central 
when it comes to the Mac and I believe you have to have voices that are 
supported in the in some different format.  Meaning for example if text to 
speech engines such as neospeech  Doesn't have a Mac offering then it 
wouldn't be possible to just allow it to only be within side the app like 
it is on IOS.



On December 23, 2021 3:02:53 AM "'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries" 
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Yeah. I installed it on my Mac. I'm hoping though in future updates that 
we'll be able to use the voices we bought in the iOS app. I would think 
that Winston would have to implement that if he wants the app to be as 
successful on the Mac as it is on iOS.


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On Dec 22, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

It is in Beta form right now. Yes, it does work on Intel, and my 
understanding is that the voices do not work. You’re limited to the Mac ones.


On Dec 22, 2021, at 01:55, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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Hey guys. So I heard on one of my Whatsapp groups that Voice Dream Reader 
is coming to the Mac. One of the system requirements though is you have to 
have macOS Monterey on your Mac. I have two questions about this. One is 
from somebody else and the other is a question of mine. Does anyone know if 
this will work on Intel based Macs? And my question is, and I'm thinking 
that the answer is no because iOS doesn't have this ability, but I was 
wondering if voices we buy for the app will also work with Voiceover? I 
should say that this app is in beta. You can try it here. 
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Re: Sonos and Apple Music

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You're not doing anything wrong! The issue is Google try to steal things 
from Sonos as far as how they do Mesh networking and trade secrets. And 
retaliation from Sono suing them they have pretty much neuter the Google 
assistant on Sonos devices. It's often happens though in third-party 
devices with voice assistance it's not an equal playing Ground. The only 
way to get apple music to work with voice on Sonos currently is with Alexa.



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Hello all,

I use google assistant on my Sonos speakers but they refuse to play my 
Apple playlists etc. However, I can perform this instruction on my google 
nest mini. What am I not doing properly?


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Re: Using an older Macbook, with Audio Hijack

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One other option that you could do that I have done in the past with other apps 
now spectrum could block this there are a few Apps that do. You could plug in 
your iPhone open up QuickTime and choose new audio recording you turn the 
volume up to 100% and you go and open the spectrum app you’re not technically 
recording on QuickTime at this point it’s just giving you the audio you then 
move over the audio hijack and choose your audio source as QuickTime and record 
in audio hijack this works like a charm it’s how I record things from Sirius Xm 
at times.

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> I don’t know about the app, ut you could use Audio HighJack to record from 
> the website.
> 
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have an older Macbook that was given to me, probably about 4, or 5 years 
>> ago. It was used when I got it, and I was told that it couldn't be upgraded. 
>> It runs, Yosemite.
>> 
>> 
>> Honestly, I haven't used it all that much, as I had hoped to do. There are 
>> many reasons for this.
>> 
>> 
>> However, I wanted to ask what you all thought about a few things.
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, does anyone know how the Spectrum cable App works with the Mac?
>> 
>> Has anyone tried it?
>> 
>> I know it works quite well on my iPhone.
>> 
>> 
>> I am wanting to capture some shows, with audio description, using the 
>> Spectrum App. I want to do this for myself, because I can't enjoy the shows 
>> with audio description, when using my cable box.
>> 
>> 
>> So I was wondering, could I use the Spectrum App, and a program like Audio 
>> Hijack, to record stuff?
>> 
>> 
>> Is this at all possible?
>> 
>> And could I possibly use the latest version of audio hijack? Or would I 
>> likely have to use an older version, due to what my Mac is running?
>> 
>> 
>> Any help, or thoughts would be very much appreciated. Also, if you need any 
>> information from me, please let me know.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
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Re: Remote controlling a Mac with Voiceover

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You can also try  jump desktop I’ve been playing with it and it really is good 
on your own net work! when you’re using it though you’ll want to turn off 
voiceover on iOS and it will just act as if you’re on your Mac! There are a few 
weird things but overall to do quick adjustments like you’re wanting to do I 
think it would be perfect!

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> 
> On 14/8/21 4:14 pm, Frank Ventura wrote:
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> Is there any Voiceover friendly means of remotely controlling another Mac?
> There is Secure Shell (ssh) for anything you can do from a shell prompt. 
> Unfortunately, the Mac isn't like Linux, where almost anything can be 
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Using the MacBook with the lid closed

[joseph hodge]

Hi I’ve never change the settings to use the MacBook with the lid closed

 has anyone done this and does it work pretty well? My use cases thinking I 
would listen to media and just shut the lid and continue listening to media 
kind of like an iPad. My hesitation is I just don’t know if it gets too hot 
because there’s a monitor and keyboard or push together? Anyone have any 
thoughts? Thank you so much.

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Re: Change Reaction

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My guess is they allowed their developer status to expire from the App Store 
I’ve run into that before on the iOS side just never thought of it from the Mac 
side LOL. It’s kind of disappointing because I really enjoyed this game! It was 
kind of that mindless sort of thing that you can do to pass time. I actually 
had it installed on my M1 MacBook but then did a reformat and didn’t think to 
save it! I really need to start doing time machine back ups LOL.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Huh! I just now noticed this.  Guess I lost it too, when I moved over to the 
> new Mac.  If you find a way to get it, I’d love it if you would send it to 
> me.  And I’ll do the same for you.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 11:03 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> This appears to be gone from the App Store I had purchased it along time ago 
>> but just never saved it does anyone by chance have the application they 
>> would share for this game? I really love it! Thank you so much if you can 
>> provide some guidance on this. Dumb me for thinking it would always just be 
>> in the store.
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Change Reaction

[joseph hodge]

This appears to be gone from the App Store I had purchased it along time ago 
but just never saved it does anyone by chance have the application they would 
share for this game? I really love it! Thank you so much if you can provide 
some guidance on this. Dumb me for thinking it would always just be in the 
store.

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Re: Mac app for playing internet radio feeds

[joseph hodge]

Tune an actually has a desktop client where you can do command up and down and 
it will raise and lower the volume.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Tunein is its own website. One problem I have had with playing streams in 
> Safari though is no volume control.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 19:44, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> do you find this in the mac app store or somewhere on the Amazon site?
>> 
 On Jun 21, 2021, at 8:28 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps not what you had in mind, the software for the amazon alexa smart 
>>> speakers is available free on macs and operates entirely by voice.
>>> It has access to web stations am/fm domestically and around the globe.  By 
>>> voice you mention the call sign, frequency or station name to start
>>> playing a station.  Not to mention the many many other features and 
>>> functions that are available on alexa.
>>> 
 On Mon, 21 Jun 2021, Frank Ventura wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all, can anyone recommend an app from the Mac app store that will play 
 internet radio feeds and is compaitble with Airplay? Of course it should 
 work with voiceover.
 
 thanks
 Frank Ventura
 
 
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Re: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

[joseph hodge]

Its possible this isn’t supported by Sonos and Google. Third party speakers 
work differently. I know Alexa and Apple Music work but Sonos is fighting with 
Google because Google stole some patons.

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
> music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
> ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Running iPhone Apps on the Mac

[joseph hodge]

In the case of some I’ve actually heard it’s that when you use their app they 
don’t get as much data from you as using the browser. Because of iOS 
limitations and privacy that they give the user the app has to illuminate 
certain things based on the users choices. Through the browser it’s much more 
open and they can collect more data from you! That being said I really hope 
with the iPad now using the M1 this becomes more of a thing but I think Donna 
is correct if developers are given the chance especially the big ones I don’t 
think we’re going to see their apps running on the Mac anytime soon.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 21, 2021, at 8:26 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> Developers want to make more money, and I understand that they should be 
> compensated if they had to make two different programs, but there are some 
> who believe that we will see iPad and Mac Merge.
> If that is the case, then developers would only need to make one app.
> There are developers who embrace multiple platforms i.e. you can play some 
> games on the iPad and iPhone.
> I’m not sure how that will work since the iPad is branching off in a new 
> direction.
>  
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 8:09 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Running iPhone Apps on the Mac
>  
> Actually, I suspect that’s precisely what some developers don’t want. Just a 
> hunch.
> Donna
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2021, at 4:08 PM,   
> wrote:
>  
> Well,
> Give it some time.
> Maybe Apple can automate the process so that IOS just work on the Mac by 
> default.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 4:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Running iPhone Apps on the Mac
>  
> Yep. Well said.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2021, at 3:26 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Well,
> There was too much hype and not very many results.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 4:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Running iPhone Apps on the Mac
>  
> True enough, but I kind of feel like Apple reneged. I’m sure it was because 
> of pressure from some developer, but still.
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2021, at 2:49 PM,   
> wrote:
>  
> Well, those of us who have the new M1 Macs are early adopters so I hope this 
> improves.
>  
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 3:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Running iPhone Apps on the Mac
>  
> Hi Les,
>  
> For me, that has been a huge disappointment in the M1 Macs, particularly 
> after watching Apple tout this feature so strongly last fall.  They blocked 
> side loading, and very few IOS apps will actually run on the new Macs.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>  
> Hi All,
> I read that this can be accomplished. I run many apps on my iPhone and would 
> love to do so on my MBA which is coming soon. How does one accomplish this? 
> Do you have to download each app from the Apple Store on to the Mac, or is 
> there another way this is done? Thanks for the knowledge.
> Best,
>  
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Re: Feedback update Mantis Q40

[joseph hodge]

I wrote this last night but it keeps coming back trying to post again.

Full disclosure I work for APH. However I am totally blind myself and I would 
not try to miss lead anyone.

The Mantis for me is a great keyboard. I like that I can switch from my Mac, to 
my Windows, to my iPhone easily all one keyboard. I mention this in my demos 
but I used to work in insurance and having a keyboard and a Braille Display 
drove me nuts because your constantly fiddling where they both are. With this 
its one device. I think the terminal where you connect to IOS and such is 
wonderful. We have had issues with IOS do to the new Hid standard and Apple 
just not getting it right, but these will be worked out shortly.

Thickness its thicker than my MacBook Pro lol. However it goes in my bag fine 
where I would put a laptop.

I like having an editor but the older I get I would be just fine with a dummy 
device only that connects to my devices I need. I don’t need the extras they 
are nice but Bookshare locally I only use for testing because I just use 
Voicedream reader and sync between all my devices.

The one thing and place I think I wouldn’t reccomend the Mantis is travel. I 
mean the Mantis is small and usable on the go, but if your in a taxi cab do you 
see yourself really using a qwerty to type and be productive? If you never use 
a display in this manner then it won't bother you, but if you are someone who 
uses their display a lot on the go you may not like the size.

Me personally I think I could see this sitting on my desk full time or maybe 
take it out to my recliner but I would prefer a skinnier display to take with 
my more powerful devices on the road.

Joe

> On Mar 3, 2021, at 11:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Anders,
> 
> I believe that Humanware is now selling it in Europe.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So this display is for the US only guess?
>> Then I guess its not for me yet if they don’t make it available in other 
>> countries with the correct keyboard layout.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 3 mars 2021 kl. 17:27 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> 
>>> That's one drawback to the Mantis. When you switch devices, you have to do 
>>> it manually from the device. I didn't keep mine, so I don't remember the 
>>> exact process, and the latest update may have made the process more 
>>> streamline. Joseph can speak to that better than I.
>>> 
>>> Using the keyboard in your lap is, in my opinion, a place where the Mantis 
>>> truly excels. I loved being able to just put my phone or my iPad on the 
>>> coffee table, set the Mantis in my lap, and just do everything from there. 
>>> If you're a qwerty user, that feature alone is truly awesome!
>>> 
>>> BTW, the reason I did not keep the mantis was because I wanted a more 
>>> robust editor. I don't care much about calendars, stopwatch timers, and 
>>> stuff like that, because I just use my phone for those things. But I do 
>>> want the option to do editing independently of my i-device. Mostly, the 
>>> editor on the Mantis is pretty good, but it has some file size limitations 
>>> that didn't work for me. That said, I'm still very interested in the 
>>> Mantis, and I suspect that eventually, I will own one.
>>> 
>>> The staff at APH are very helpful. I found them to be great to deal with. 
>>> The user list for the Mantis is full of helpful people, and when I returned 
>>> my unit, the return was handled promptly, with no questions asked. The one 
>>> drawback is that at that time--and I think maybe still--the Mantis was 
>>> back-ordered. So they had my money for a good month(ish) before I got my 
>>> unit. I imagine that either has changed, or will change, because the back 
>>> order was due to supply chain issues related to COVID.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Traci Duncan >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 So something I’m still not clear on when comparing older braille displays 
 and new ones, is the multiple connections. My 4th gen Focus 14 connects to 
 one device at a time, however it does automatically connect. So, if I am 
 on my iPhone using it, lock that phone and move over to my iPad, the Focus 
 works with that device. 
 
 Is that the difference? The new displays connect to multiple devices, but 
 I need to reestablish the connection?
 
 Back to the Mantis specifically, could I use the keyboard on my lap?
 
 As far as I understand, I’d purchase Mantis directly through APH right? 
 I’m not super familiar with them as far as a store goes. Last year I 
 bought some slate & stylus supplies. :) That’s the extent of my consumer 
 experience.
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
 
> On Mar 2, 2021, at 12:45 PM, 

Re: Feedback update Mantis Q40

[joseph hodge]

Full disclosure I work for APH. However I am totally blind myself and I would 
not try to miss lead anyone.

The Mantis for me is a great keyboard. I like that I can switch from my Mac, to 
my Windows, to my iPhone easily all one keyboard. I mention this in my demos 
but I used to work in insurance and having a keyboard and a Braille Display 
drove me nuts because your constantly fiddling where they both are. With this 
its one device. I think the terminal where you connect to IOS and such is 
wonderful. We have had issues with IOS do to the new Hid standard and Apple 
just not getting it right, but these will be worked out shortly.

Thickness its thicker than my MacBook Pro lol. However it goes in my bag fine 
where I would put a laptop.

I like having an editor but the older I get I would be just fine with a dummy 
device only that connects to my devices I need. I don’t need the extras they 
are nice but Bookshare locally I only use for testing because I just use 
Voicedream reader and sync between all my devices.

The one thing and place I think I wouldn’t reccomend the Mantis is travel. I 
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Me personally I think I could see this sitting on my desk full time or maybe 
take it out to my recliner but I would prefer a skinnier display to take with 
my more powerful devices on the road.

Joe

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Re: Feedback update Mantis Q40

[joseph hodge]

Full disclosure I work for APH. However I am totally blind myself and I would 
not try to miss lead anyone.

The Mantis for me is a great keyboard. I like that I can switch from my Mac, to 
my Windows, to my iPhone easily all one keyboard. I mention this in my demos 
but I used to work in insurance and having a keyboard and a Braille Display 
drove me nuts because your constantly fiddling where they both are. With this 
its one device. I think the terminal where you connect to IOS and such is 
wonderful. We have had issues with IOS do to the new Hid standard and Apple 
just not getting it right, but these will be worked out shortly.

Thickness its thicker than my MacBook Pro lol. However it goes in my bag fine 
where I would put a laptop.

I like having an editor but the older I get I would be just fine with a dummy 
device only that connects to my devices I need. I don’t need the extras they 
are nice but Bookshare locally I only use for testing because I just use 
Voicedream reader and sync between all my devices.

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mean the Mantis is small and usable on the go, but if your in a taxi cab do you 
see yourself really using a qwerty to type and be productive? If you never use 
a display in this manner then it won't bother you, but if you are someone who 
uses their display a lot on the go you may not like the size.

Me personally I think I could see this sitting on my desk full time or maybe 
take it out to my recliner but I would prefer a skinnier display to take with 
my more powerful devices on the road.

Joe

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Re: Any Audio Hijack users?

[joseph hodge]

Its called take control of Audio Hijack. Here is the link 
https://rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/ 

> On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> So, what’s the name of the book, and where did you get it?
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2021, at 06:49, joseph hodge  <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are use this app every day but mainly to record Safari chrome edge all the 
> same time I can put together a podcast or talk about what I know but I’m just 
> trying to figure out what it is you guys all want to know? i’m also not too 
> in depth with recording different things I mainly use it to capture audio 
> from browsers. I did purchase a book that talks about a lot of different uses 
> for audio hi Jack.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have Audio Hijack, but haven’t used it much.
>> Would like to learn more from those experienced in using it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 10:31, kliph miller Sr > <mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> sturi...@icloud.com <mailto:sturi...@icloud.com>
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Re: The 40-Cell Question: A Comparison of 40-Cell Braille Displays | AccessWorld | American Foundation for the Blind

[joseph hodge]

Really good riding Scott! i Enjoyed your take on this!

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:39 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Nice write-up, Scot.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> A good clear-cut read for some 40 cell options.
>> 
>> 
>> https://afb.org/aw/22/1/17349
>> 
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Re: Any Audio Hijack users?

[joseph hodge]

Are use this app every day but mainly to record Safari chrome edge all the same 
time I can put together a podcast or talk about what I know but I’m just trying 
to figure out what it is you guys all want to know? i’m also not too in depth 
with recording different things I mainly use it to capture audio from browsers. 
I did purchase a book that talks about a lot of different uses for audio hi 
Jack.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I have Audio Hijack, but haven’t used it much.
> Would like to learn more from those experienced in using it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2021, at 10:31, kliph miller Sr  wrote:
> 
> If you are a user of Audio Hijack, and want to exchange tips and hints, 
> please email me off list, trying  to get to know this app, but confused about 
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> sturi...@icloud.com
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Finding the URL of a radio station

[joseph hodge]

Hi all I was wondering if anyone knows any software that will allow you to grab 
the URL of a radio station when you're playing it? I would like to take a radio 
station and put it into a player that does not have access to it however it 
allows me to add URLS. Everything I find is windows only and just trying to 
find something that will work!

Joe

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Re: problems with IOS 14.4 and braille displays?

[joseph hodge]

Just a Mantis because it’s using the new hid Standard the older braille 
displays should be fine!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2021, at 3:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I just received the message below on the Mantis mailing list. Does anyone 
> know if this problem is unique to the Mantis, or will it be an issue for all 
> braille displays?
> TIA,
> Donna
> Message from Mantis list
> Writing today to let everyone know that there are connection issues for the 
> Mantis and Chameleon after upgrading to iOS 14.4. We recommend that you turn 
> off automatic updates and do not upgrade to 14.4. This is a regression 
> introduced by Apple in this release. We alerted them to this issue during 
> 14.4 beta testing and we hope they will correct it in a possible 14.4.1 
> release. We will keep you posted on anything that we learn.
>  
> The basic issue is that once you upgrade to 14.4, as soon as you lock your 
> iPad or iPhone with the Mantis or Chameleon connected, the braille display 
> will not automatically reconnect once you wake the device back up. You can 
> force it to reconnect by leaving the terminal and reconnecting from there but 
> then you won’t get braille. The only way to get braille back is to toggle 
> Bluetooth on the iOS device but the issue will happen again as soon as you 
> lock your device or it goes to sleep.
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Re: Apple mail on a mac

[joseph hodge]

It sounds like you closed the window just press the command for New Viewer 
Window which is  command plus option plus n. Hope this helps.

Joe

> On Jan 22, 2021, at 1:59 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I accidentally did something to my mail. I think what I did was press 
> command-l thinking I was in Safari and it messed up the way I had my mail 
> set. it's been coming up with no windows and even when I close it and open it 
> again it comes up the same way. the menus work though. I went into view. if 
> collumns aren't checked does it look more like the classic view? I'm running 
> Catalina and I didn't have to do anything to mail when I upgraded. so now I 
> don't know what to do. suggestions?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: To Joseph Hodge, video on loading iPhone apps onto the new Macs?

[joseph hodge]

I am currently looking in to another way that someone reported on but not 
having much luck getting passed the Apple servers. Agreed Apples micro managing 
is starting to piss me off a bit. They knew people were going to do this exact 
thing, but yet they shipped it off allowing for you to be able to side load. 
They should have shut it off from the start. My guess is one of the big tech 
companies complained so we now got what we got.

Joe

> On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Wow! That's lousy. In fact, it probably just cost them the sale of one new 
> Mac. That was one of the primary attractions for me of upgrading. Without 
> that, I think I'll just stick with my 2017 MBP.
> 
> Thanks for the info, Joseph.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:44 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> Well Apple actually removed the ability to do this last week unfortunately. 
>> If you had done it your apps stay so I still have Bard Mobile but they 
>> blocked any new ways to do this with Amazing. Sorry the recording is 
>> irrelevant now since they blocked it on the server side. See this article.
>> 
>> https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/15/apple-blocks-m1-mac-iphone-app-side-loading/
>> It’s a real shame as Bard Mobile on the Mac is great and I guess I have it 
>> until I have to reformat.
>> 
>> Joe
>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 9:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Hi Joseph,
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>>> Before the holidays, you posted a video demoing how to load iPhone apps on 
>>> the new Macs. It took me a while to go view it, and by the time I did, I 
>>> received a message saying that the link was no longer valid. Could you 
>>> either re-post, or send to me privately at doniado...@me.com?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: To Joseph Hodge, video on loading iPhone apps onto the new Macs?

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Hi Donna,

Well Apple actually removed the ability to do this last week unfortunately. If 
you had done it your apps stay so I still have Bard Mobile but they blocked any 
new ways to do this with Amazing. Sorry the recording is irrelevant now since 
they blocked it on the server side. See this article.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/15/apple-blocks-m1-mac-iphone-app-side-loading/
It’s a real shame as Bard Mobile on the Mac is great and I guess I have it 
until I have to reformat.

Joe
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> Hi Joseph,
> 
> Before the holidays, you posted a video demoing how to load iPhone apps on 
> the new Macs. It took me a while to go view it, and by the time I did, I 
> received a message saying that the link was no longer valid. Could you either 
> re-post, or send to me privately at doniado...@me.com?
> TIA,
> Donna
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> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Home Pod Mini tomorrow.

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It's kind of hit and miss but you can also tap your Iphone on the mini and it 
will automatically  transfer your audio to it from your phone which is neat.  

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi.
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> I’m receiving my Home Pod Mini tomorrow so I have a few questions.
> 
> 1.  If you have your I phone in the room with you and you say Hey Siri, what 
> will respond, both devices or all devices that use hey Siri?  How can you get 
> one device to respond?  Or is that not possible?
> 
> 2.  Can you get home pod mini to play BBC radio stations?
> 
> 3.  Can you get Siri to play your audible books?
> 
> I bought a new Alexa dot 4 just in case I can’t listen to audible books on 
> the go.
> 
> So it’s two speakers in the same place but I am looking forward to amazing 
> music (as I understand that the Home Pod mini plays great music sound).
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Re: Your favourite apps

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Hi Jen! Congratulations on the new Mac! Personally audio hijack is one of my 
favorite abs of all time because you can record literally anything from any 
source. And you can record multiple things at one time.
Airfoil and airfoil satellite or another one of my favorites because you can 
airplay from your iPhone to your computer something like bard mobile so if 
you’re trying to be productive you can ultimately have everything going to one 
source.
I also like sound source until recently I didn’t ever really use it that much 
but now I really enjoy it because it allows me to control the volume of any 
application. So sometimes there are applications within the web browser that 
don’t have a volume control now I can be the boss of what app is that what 
volume.
As far as games I like the following. The great toy robbery it’s fun! Choose 
your face! Change reaction for some reason this is addicting and I enjoy it!
I also install retro arch and play some old video games do that a lot!
Finally I really love Ulysses for its writing simplicity and sort of blank 
editor approach! And I also like day one for journaling.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I recently got a Mac book air.  I am wondering what apps and games you all 
> like.
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Re: converting english to Spanish app

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Hi Chuck in iOS 14 there is a translation app that allows you to write text and 
then have it translated into the language of your choosing. You may give that a 
go.

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 7:25 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
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> Hi List,
> I'm looking for recommendations on how to convert english to Spanish then 
> sending it out via text messages.
> It could bee as simple as copying a phrase or paragraph from textedit then 
> pasting it into some kind of translator then copying it in to my messages app 
> or on the  iPhone.
> 
> I have a new client at my recording studio that is a bit limited on english 
> recently coming from Venezuela.
> I have been using the iPhone with siri and telling siri to translate my 
> english phrases to spanish but it's a bit lengthy using this process.
> I saw a youtube about google translate but I've never used it?
> Any suggestions out there?
> Thanks
> Chuck
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Re: Audio Hijack sale

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I love Audio Hijack it really is the reason the Mac is much more powerful than 
Windows for me. I like the fact I can record Safari and Chrome doing things at 
the same time and you have no way of knowing on a recording. Its a wonderful 
program and I highly recommend it if you don’t have it. I also enjoy other apps 
from the company such as Airfoil.

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 9:12 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> There are a few ways of recording audio on the Mac, but I have found Audio 
> Hijack the easiest.
> It was $59, but you can get it for $47 with 
> code END2020. 
> 
> 
> Some people are now using Zoom to record audio & video on the Mac.
> And don’t forget about QuickTime. It can also be used to record system audio 
> and video by installing a audio driver extension.
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Re: Demoing Amazing appp

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Hi Tracy yes running apps from the iPad is only possible on M1 Macs. I wish 
they made something like the rosetta emulator to run the m1 stuff on intel. 
For recording I used Zoom and just used the microphone on the MacBook Pro and 
shared my screen and sound.

> On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi, listening to the beginning of this, I’m gathering it’s only for the m1 
> Macs. *Frowns. Is this the case?
> 
> Great recording, BTW.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Raymond Foret Jr > <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
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>> How did you record this?  Is very well done.
>> 
>> 
>> I will never apologize for my Whiteness, my Catholicism or my Southernness
>> 
>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>> blind:
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 1:40 AM, Dennis Westphal >> <mailto:dennisianwestp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing
>>> 
>>>> Am 12.12.2020 um 04:28 schrieb joseph hodge >>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> This was asked for earlier in the week here is a demonstration of how to 
>>>> move apps from your iPhone to your Mac if not offered in the App Store. 
>>>> Sidenote I did try Amazon Alexa after recording this demonstration I did 
>>>> not get it to work it would never let me sign in it made me do a caption  
>>>> but never seem to let me past this. I also was going to release us to 
>>>> YouTube but due to the nature of it I decided just to only share with you 
>>>> guys. Hope you enjoy and find it useful!
>>>> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0MmCXlbGEIVcymhrRp2gxMNig#audio_only 
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Demoing Amazing appp

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This was asked for earlier in the week here is a demonstration of how to move 
apps from your iPhone to your Mac if not offered in the App Store. Sidenote I 
did try Amazon Alexa after recording this demonstration I did not get it to 
work it would never let me sign in it made me do a caption  but never seem to 
let me past this. I also was going to release us to YouTube but due to the 
nature of it I decided just to only share with you guys. Hope you enjoy and 
find it useful!
https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0MmCXlbGEIVcymhrRp2gxMNig#audio_only

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Re: The Psychology of technology

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I definitely understand this point! Due to Covid and working from home I think 
it's more important than ever to have separate devices from work and personal. 
As a blind person this can be a bit challenging because I use my personal phone 
to test things at work as well as my personal devices sometimes just because 
testing is very personal. That all being said I was definitely maxing myself 
out because I would open up Mail on my iPhone and see a bunch of work related 
emails and just answer them on my time off I understand if there's a toggle 
where I can turn mail off or even view by inbox but I just like doing 
everything at once where are my Mac and my iPad I tend to just use my personal 
emails so I'm not bombarded with my work stuff there and it's made a world of 
difference! I think this is a great conversation! And a good topic to think 
about!

> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
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> Based on the last message, I think iPad is better, because it feels, as a 
> hardware, different from your MacBook. That’s in addition to using it for fun 
> only.
> 
> Another thing you may try is to try a light weight MacBook and see whether 
> you feel the difference between it and your work MBP in the same amount of 
> difference between the iPad and your work MBP.
> 
> The greater the difference between the device of work and fun, the greater 
> your happiness with fun device.
> 
> How about iPhone? It depends on you. If your work includes more than a call 
> to your colleagues, like sending messages, and you like to send messages to 
> your friends to make you happy, then iPhone won’t be a good replacement. You 
> may try it also for a couple of days before making your mind.
> 
> Have a great new device. 
> 
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> 
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>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I think you’re right. And I deliberately don’t put my work email on it, so I 
>> know I’ll never be interrupted by work stuff. Like Joe, I think I like 
>> having a secondary iOs device, and reserving it exclusively for personal 
>> ie.e. Nonwork use.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Regarding liking to type emails, You may compare typing on iPhone, iPad 
>>> and Mac. I think you consider typing on iPad more immersive and enjoyable.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 4:09 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, at least you have a concrete, separate use for yours. I really 
>>>> don’t. The one thing I can name is that I tend to prefer doing things that 
>>>> involve more typing—such as writing emails like this—on my iPad (hence my 
>>>> interest in the Mantis.) My brain just doesn’t formulate complex written 
>>>> responses when I’m dictating. I’m fine with short things like brief emails 
>>>> or FB posts, but if I tried to dictate a message like this, I’d end up 
>>>> sounding like an idiot. 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:53 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a 
>>>>> secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many 
>>>>> drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be 
>>>>> a replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars 
>>>>> for a keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it 
>>>>> could work for some.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device 
>>>>> without breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for 
>>>>> a secondary device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad 
>>>>> with my Mac is if I want to record something I will use QuickTime and 
>>>>> Audio Hijack and record the audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot 
>>>>> of sports so I love the fact on the Mac that I can record browsers 
>>>>> independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives me another source/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesti

Re: The Psychology of technology

[joseph hodge]

Man I’ve made so many mistakes when it comes to iPads. I like having a 
secondary IOS device. I bought the pro but really feel its got so many 
drawbacks. I blame marketing for this, because they do make it out to be a 
replacement for a laptop which I just find farce. I mean 300 dollars for a 
keyboard and trackpad is a bit steep for me, but I do get that it could work 
for some.

Where I settled up is on a iPad mini it gives me a secondary device without 
breaking the bank. I bought it before the SE came out but man for a secondary 
device you can snag those pretty cheap. One way I use my iPad with my Mac is if 
I want to record something I will use QuickTime and Audio Hijack and record the 
audio from the iPad to keep. I record a lot of sports so I love the fact on the 
Mac that I can record browsers independently and the iPad and QuickTime gives 
me another source/



> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. Curious what you like about your iPad so much? I’ve often had 
> the same thought, that there’s not much point to an iPad for the blind. I 
> have a MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch, but never felt the need 
> for an iPad.
> 
> But hey, if you enjoy it, and feel joy in the thought of upgrading it, then 
> go for it. Who says it has to have a good reason or to be absolutely 
> “rational”?
> 
> Brandon
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This is something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. In a perfect world, 
>> I would buy both a new Mac and a new iPad, but that would stretch my funds a 
>> little more than I want to stretch them. So I’ve been trying to sort out 
>> which device I want to upgrade this year, and which one next. That has 
>> gotten me thinking about why I like my iPad. I do like it, there’s no 
>> question about that. But as a device, it really doesn’t make much sense. I 
>> agree with Joe, that an iPad is basically just a big iPhone. And, since I 
>> can’t see the screen, there’s really no reason for me to have an iPad in the 
>> first place. But even knowing that, I like my iPad, and am very intrigued 
>> with the idea of getting a newer, faster one. But I can’t really come up 
>> with a good reason why. Everything Joe said in his video is right. The Mac 
>> is a much better proeductivity device, and the iPhone is really all the 
>> screen I need. And, it’s faster than my iPad. So what is it about the iPad 
>> that makes me like it? Notice I’m sitting here drinking my coffee and typing 
>> this email on it, not on my Mac and not on my iPhone.
>> 
>> This is more of a rhetorical post than anything else, but it’s something 
>> that has really come to fascinate me. If anyone else wants to chime in, I’d 
>> love to hear people’s thoughts.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Recorded demo on my M1

[joseph hodge]

Hi Donna. I used an app called Imazing and downloaded Bard to that library and 
once you do this there is an export option which you can save it to your Mac. 
Its a zipped file but once you open it becomes a app file. I will do a podcast 
on this process during the weekend.

Joe

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:54 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> What do you mean by side loading? How does one do that?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 2:59 PM, joseph hodge > <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just side loaded Bard Mobile and it works listened to 3 chapters in a 
>> book. This is cool previously I was using Airfoil and airfoil satellite to 
>> broadcast to my Mac from my iPhone. It could be the fact I had my iPhone 
>> connected to my Mac but battery has dropped a little quicker today my 
>> assumption being that maybe because I'm running apps not optimized for the 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> I did try a Blind Fold game and it behaved poorly. I think do to gestures 
>> not caring over between the two Voiceovers could be a reason. For some 
>> reason I wasn’t able to choose a different voice from the default and 
>> couldn’t speed them up. Once playing the game voices started sounding 
>> strange. I believed this is do to Mac system voices maybe. It wasn’t. A good 
>> experience. 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Anders Holmberg >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Wow!
>>> That’s interesting.
>>> I am a bit curious about how it would be to run Ipad apps on the Mac.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 8 dec. 2020 kl. 18:54 skrev Jonathan Cohn >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>> John Grouber of Daring Fireball fame has said that with his M1 MacBook 
>>>> Pro, he could only get the fan to come on when he had 50 Google Chrome 
>>>> tabs open, and was doing video processing. He was so surprised by this 
>>>> that he contacted others with review products to make sure his system did 
>>>> not have a broker heat sensor. 
>>>> His pod cast discussing is at:
>>>> The Talk Show: 'A Craptastic Craptacular' - Daring 
>>>> Fireballdaringfireball.net › linked › 2020/11/23 › the-talk-sho… 
>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web==rja=8=2ahUKEwjn-5LQ977tAhURGVkFHTIxDpEQFjAAegQIBBAC=https%3A%2F%2Fdaringfireball.net%2Flinked%2F2020%2F11%2F23%2Fthe-talk-show-301=AOvVaw3tVL2vlEoLLuI90mAUwmuU>
>>>> 
>>>> Or in text form at:
>>>> https://daringfireball.net/2020/12/m1_macs_truth_and_truthiness 
>>>> <https://daringfireball.net/2020/12/m1_macs_truth_and_truthiness>
>>>> (Don't blame me for the titles that John uses)
>>>> Also, David Woodbridge talked about never getting a busy  while testing 
>>>> his M1 machine with for Vision Australia.
>>>> 
>>>> In conclusion, unless you are doing A/V encoding or trying to compile your 
>>>> own version of Firefox, the performance between the Air and the Pro is not 
>>>> noticeable.  One thing I am not sure about, is if the USB-C ports are 
>>>> equivalent between the two systems. the PRO can support the Apple $8000 
>>>> display, and I don't remember that being mentioned for the Air.
>>>> 
>>>>Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 12:22, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's interesting. I had an Air, then upgraded to the Pro, and have 
>>>>> since wished I'd just stuck with the Air. I would go with the 512, so 
>>>>> that would give me the extra core. Kind of leaning that way at the moment.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 11:16 AM, joseph hodge >>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Cheapest air also only has a 7 core processor which again may or may 
>>>>>> not affect anything. If you step up to the 512 version they do give you 
>>>>>> the extra core so you have the 8. I wanted to go fanless but decided 
>>>>>> ultimently to go with the pro. The Touch Bar doesn’t bother me to much I 
>>>>>> can work aro

Re: Recorded demo on my M1

[joseph hodge]

I just side loaded Bard Mobile and it works listened to 3 chapters in a book. 
This is cool previously I was using Airfoil and airfoil satellite to broadcast 
to my Mac from my iPhone. It could be the fact I had my iPhone connected to my 
Mac but battery has dropped a little quicker today my assumption being that 
maybe because I'm running apps not optimized for the Mac.

I did try a Blind Fold game and it behaved poorly. I think do to gestures not 
caring over between the two Voiceovers could be a reason. For some reason I 
wasn’t able to choose a different voice from the default and couldn’t speed 
them up. Once playing the game voices started sounding strange. I believed this 
is do to Mac system voices maybe. It wasn’t. A good experience. 

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Wow!
> That’s interesting.
> I am a bit curious about how it would be to run Ipad apps on the Mac.
> /A
> 
>> 8 dec. 2020 kl. 18:54 skrev Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> John Grouber of Daring Fireball fame has said that with his M1 MacBook Pro, 
>> he could only get the fan to come on when he had 50 Google Chrome tabs open, 
>> and was doing video processing. He was so surprised by this that he 
>> contacted others with review products to make sure his system did not have a 
>> broker heat sensor. 
>> His pod cast discussing is at:
>> The Talk Show: 'A Craptastic Craptacular' - Daring 
>> Fireballdaringfireball.net › linked › 2020/11/23 › the-talk-sho… 
>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web==rja=8=2ahUKEwjn-5LQ977tAhURGVkFHTIxDpEQFjAAegQIBBAC=https%3A%2F%2Fdaringfireball.net%2Flinked%2F2020%2F11%2F23%2Fthe-talk-show-301=AOvVaw3tVL2vlEoLLuI90mAUwmuU>
>> 
>> Or in text form at:
>> https://daringfireball.net/2020/12/m1_macs_truth_and_truthiness 
>> <https://daringfireball.net/2020/12/m1_macs_truth_and_truthiness>
>> (Don't blame me for the titles that John uses)
>> Also, David Woodbridge talked about never getting a busy  while testing his 
>> M1 machine with for Vision Australia.
>> 
>> In conclusion, unless you are doing A/V encoding or trying to compile your 
>> own version of Firefox, the performance between the Air and the Pro is not 
>> noticeable.  One thing I am not sure about, is if the USB-C ports are 
>> equivalent between the two systems. the PRO can support the Apple $8000 
>> display, and I don't remember that being mentioned for the Air.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 12:22, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's interesting. I had an Air, then upgraded to the Pro, and have since 
>>> wished I'd just stuck with the Air. I would go with the 512, so that would 
>>> give me the extra core. Kind of leaning that way at the moment.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 11:16 AM, joseph hodge >>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Cheapest air also only has a 7 core processor which again may or may 
>>>> not affect anything. If you step up to the 512 version they do give you 
>>>> the extra core so you have the 8. I wanted to go fanless but decided 
>>>> ultimently to go with the pro. The Touch Bar doesn’t bother me to much I 
>>>> can work around it. It was a bigger deal in Bootcamp but now we can’t do 
>>>> that anyway lol. Probably the air would work for me but I still have 
>>>> really bad reservations due to the fact that the air used to give me busy 
>>>> busy and get so hot LOL. If you decide to get one let me know what you 
>>>> decide it's pretty cool the battery life is unbelievable!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 11:22 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's what I've gathered too. But there must be some reason why they put 
>>>>> a fan in one and not the other.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Brad Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From what I have read, the only real difference in the M1 MacBook Air 
>>>>>> and M1 MacBook Pro, other than physical function keys vs the TouchBar, 
>>>>>> is

Re: Recorded demo on my M1

[joseph hodge]

The Cheapest air also only has a 7 core processor which again may or may not 
affect anything. If you step up to the 512 version they do give you the extra 
core so you have the 8. I wanted to go fanless but decided ultimently to go 
with the pro. The Touch Bar doesn’t bother me to much I can work around it. It 
was a bigger deal in Bootcamp but now we can’t do that anyway lol. Probably the 
air would work for me but I still have really bad reservations due to the fact 
that the air used to give me busy busy and get so hot LOL. If you decide to get 
one let me know what you decide it's pretty cool the battery life is 
unbelievable!

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 11:22 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's what I've gathered too. But there must be some reason why they put a 
> fan in one and not the other.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> From what I have read, the only real difference in the M1 MacBook Air and M1 
>> MacBook Pro, other than physical function keys vs the TouchBar, is that the 
>> M1 MacBook Pro has a cooling fan, while the M1 MacBook Air does not.
>> The absence of a fan can affect the MacBook Air’s performance when doing 
>> processor intensive tasks, which may or may not be a concern depending on 
>> how one intends to use their MacBook computer.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 09:15, Greg Wocher > <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> The new MacBook Pro still has the Touch Bar. The only MacBook without it is 
>> the MacBook Air.
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice video, Joe. Thanks for doing this. I've been on the fence about 
>>> whether to upgrade my Mac or my iPad. I tend to think of my Mac as a work 
>>> device and my iPad as a fun device, so was glad to see you focus on how 
>>> iPad apps work on the Mac
>>> 
>>> One question. Does the 13-inch pro have a touch bar oor function keys? If I 
>>> upgrade my Mac, I'm determined to lose the touch bar. lol
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:57 AM, joseph hodge >>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought you guys may be interested to hear some performance of my 
>>>> MacBook Pro M1.
>>>> The battery life on this thing is amazing I woke up today and it's still 
>>>> at 54% and I used it all day yesterday! It is pretty neat! Here's a video 
>>>> on YouTube where I demonstrate using a few iPad OS apps!
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYGC4cuybo=Ugy2Us-bXTOmzXaCTt94AaABAg=em-comments
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYGC4cuybo=Ugy2Us-bXTOmzXaCTt94AaABAg=em-comments>
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Recorded demo on my M1

[joseph hodge]

I thought you guys may be interested to hear some performance of my MacBook Pro 
M1.
The battery life on this thing is amazing I woke up today and it's still at 54% 
and I used it all day yesterday! It is pretty neat! Here's a video on YouTube 
where I demonstrate using a few iPad OS apps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYGC4cuybo=Ugy2Us-bXTOmzXaCTt94AaABAg=em-comments

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Re: mantis, best commands for working with an iPhone?

[joseph hodge]

I’m also assuming that this list here is roughly what you got from Apple but 
it’s worth checking out

https://pauljadam.com/demos/voiceovercommands.html

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:10 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Hi John there’s nothing specific relating to the mantis and iOS due to the 
> fact it’s just a Bluetooth keyboard! So any of the commands that you may have 
> found out from Apple with using a Bluetooth keyboard will work on the mantis. 
> just mentioning though if you happen to have a document that talks about 
> function keys for example F 12 raising volume those currently do not work. 
> However any other normal Bluetooth command does. There is one command that is 
> only available on iPads currently which is command plus tab to switch between 
> windows this also doesn’t work but I’m hoping it gets updated soon!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2020, at 9:47 AM, 'John Sanfilippo' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Might someone direct me to where I might find a list of commands which work 
>> best with the APH/Humanware Mantis Q40 interfacing with an iPhone?
>> 
>> 
>> I have already collected some info from Apple and other resources, but if 
>> there is something specifically related to the Mantis, I'd appreciate that 
>> info.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
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Re: mantis, best commands for working with an iPhone?

[joseph hodge]

Hi John there’s nothing specific relating to the mantis and iOS due to the fact 
it’s just a Bluetooth keyboard! So any of the commands that you may have found 
out from Apple with using a Bluetooth keyboard will work on the mantis. just 
mentioning though if you happen to have a document that talks about function 
keys for example F 12 raising volume those currently do not work. However any 
other normal Bluetooth command does. There is one command that is only 
available on iPads currently which is command plus tab to switch between 
windows this also doesn’t work but I’m hoping it gets updated soon!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2020, at 9:47 AM, 'John Sanfilippo' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might someone direct me to where I might find a list of commands which work 
> best with the APH/Humanware Mantis Q40 interfacing with an iPhone?
> 
> 
> I have already collected some info from Apple and other resources, but if 
> there is something specifically related to the Mantis, I'd appreciate that 
> info.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a router that is more accessible and user friendly than the Netgear Orby?

[joseph hodge]

Something similar that is really. Nice is the Eero. I would go basic at this 
point do to wifi 6 not being in every device and most won’t benefit at this 
time.

> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'll spare you the rant, but I'm really hating my experience with the Netgear 
> Orby. At this point, I'm locked out of the app, the security codes they have 
> sent me to reset my password have more characters than the app will allow, 
> And I can't contact support because I'm not in the place where the router is, 
> so can't provide a serial number. Ready to give the Netgear the boot. Can 
> anyone recommend a good, accessible router?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: mac OS big sur: repeating ping sound

[joseph hodge]

If you do vo f1 twice do you have a system notification? Mine was doing this 
and I realized it was trying to get me to confirm something. Once I did f1 
twice told it whatever it is gone.

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:22 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I can understand how this would be annoying. Regretfully, I have not
> heard such in my Mac experience, so can't give you anything specific. I
> have two thoughts:
> 
> 1.)   Call Apple Support in a manner where they can hear your Mac
> making that sound. After all, they sold you the machine, right?
> 
> 2.)   Pull up a list of processes and start killing them one by one
> until the sound stops, noting as you go what is running on each pid.
> 
> Sorry I can't help further. Good luck on this.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Yuma Decaux writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is the link to the audio:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d86etaiungfma41/repeated_ping.wav?dl=0 
>> 
>> 
>> When I mean ping, I don't mean the CL tool to ping servers, but a ping sound.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2020, at 7:55 pm, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don't see the link. Could you maybe paste it into the body of the
>>> message?
>>> 
>>> Alternative, you might want to search running processes for an instance
>>> of ping and kill the process id.
>>> 
>>> The following terminal command may help:
>>> 
>>> sudo killall ping
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yuma Decaux writes:
 Hi All,
 
 I've recorded myself on the system to demonstrate this repeating ping 
 sound that occurs without any input from me, and its starting to drive me 
 absolutely bonkers. it's very disrupting and annoying, and I would really 
 like to know what is going on, and how to turn this down. Attached below 
 is a dropbox link to the recording:
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 yuma 
 
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Re: Battery status on Big Sir?

[joseph hodge]

Here is the battery status file. Sorry for taking a bit. It is in a zip file 
because there is also a time script you know longer need.
https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0U30p_Bqut935RwmH9FYxPQNQ#BSmart_VO_Scripts_2

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> I’d appreciate that. Thanks
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:04 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>> 
>> It was a downloaded one. I can post it if you need.
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you remind me, was this a script we downloaded from the web or was it 
>>> already on the Mac?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:46 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes mine is working fine.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all, will the battery status shortcut work on Big Sir? I definitely 
>>>>> miss hitting right option B for the VoiceOver Script say battery status.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Traci
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