Re: iPhone recent calls not showing
hi. Yes, it's true, it happens to me,. cheers. Às 16:12 de 25/10/2018, Vaughn Brown escreveu: Good morning, Ever since I updated the IOS system on the iPone my recent calls do not show no matter if it is set to missed or all. It keeps saying "empty list". I know I have missed calls. Any advice? Thank you very much, Vaughn -- A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção... -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOS 10 Bug Report: Please Join Me in Sending This VoiceOver Bug Report to Apple Regarding the Phone App
hi. thank you for this. I'll do my part. cheers. Às 19:26 de 15/09/2016, M. Taylor escreveu: Hello Everyone, Please join me in sending a VoiceOver feedback report to Apple regarding the fact that VoiceOver users can no longer reorder Contacts listed in the Favorites area of the Phone app. Also, the Delete buttons are no longer VoiceOver accessible. Just so you know, using the VoiceOver Rotor, one can delete a Contact from this list, however the Delete button displayed to the left of each individual Contact item is inaccessible. I have already written the report so all you need to do is to paste it into a new email, either in its entirety or modified as you see fit. [BEGIN REPORT] Subject: Reordering Favorite Contacts Control No Longer VoiceOver Accessible in iOS 10. In iOS 10, unlike in iOS 9.x, when VoiceOver is enabled, the user cannot reorder Contacts in the Favorites area of the Phone app. To reproduce this bug: 1. Make certain that you have multiple Contacts selected as a Favorite. 2. With VoiceOver enabled, open the Phone app. 3. Select the Favorites Tab. 4. Select the Edit button located near the upper right corner of the display. 5. Even though the reorder controls are visible on the display, they are not VoiceOver accessible. It should also be noted that the Delete controls are also visible but are also inaccessible via VoiceOver. [END REPORT] Thank you, Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Facebook and their improvements on pictures
hi. sorry, but that it does not happen here. I already tested in all kinds of pictures, and no information is given the description of the picture. only announces picture image. nothing more. cheers. Às 08:18 de 05/03/2016, Dora Speck escreveu: Facebook sure has come along way since I first started using it. The greatest improvement I found they've made is the excessibility feature with pictures people often post! To a sighted person, I'm not sure if this will make sense to you, but I will try and describe in the best way I can. When I first started, Facebook did not have an accessibility feature for describing photos. All you heard when ever you were looking at Facebook with a screen reader was, "Photo." Of course, as a blind individual I had no clue what that picture was of whether it be an object or face up until now. Here we are at 2016. They've now got to wear my voiceover will actually say the following when I come across a photo. "Image may contain, 1 person." And if a person is smiling, it will say, "Image may contain, 1 person smiling." If there are more than one person in a photo, it will specify just how many people are with in that photo! I'm very pleased with Facebook and their accomplishments, and I hope Twitter will do the same. Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list
Ahahahahaha. You? You don't have intelligence to that you have monkey face,monkey head, you think like a monkey, and you like to take bananas in the ass. monkey gay, go suck bananas... lol! lol! Em 29/03/2015 16:03, Jose Lomeli escreveu: I'm in! I can co-moderate this new list. Jose Lomeli Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:11 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hello all, One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, because in the early days of MacVisionaries, Cara was an extremely diligent moderator. I know she took on at least one co-mod a while back, but I don't remember who that was, and that person doesn't seem to be around either. While I'm not a big believer in heavy moderation, I do think that there at least needs to be someone paying some attention so that when morons like Mario get loose, they can be removed from the list. I will therefore offer to create an alternate list, which I--and hopefully one co-mod will moderate, at least to the extent of managing subscriptions and dealing with bad behavior. However, I don't want to do this unless it is something that the majority of the community wants. Please let me know if you would like an alternate moderated list, and also if you have any wish to co-mod with me. Please note that even a low level of modding is a fair amount of work, so please don't offer unless you're willing and able to put in the time. My hope is that if there are two of us, we can set things up so the work isn't too much for either one of us. Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Are you guys still there?
ahahahahahah, bitch. another head full of shit. donna you are a big bitch. I bet you must be those bitches who just love suck cocks. lol. And your pussy, just like fucking with horses. Just look at that bitch we have in the group. Typical of an American bitch. Em 29/03/2015 10:57, Donna Goodin escreveu: Apologies. I was tired, and accidentally sent that to the list. My intention had been to send it to another address. Cheers, Donna On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:53 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: Donna and others, Every time the fire starts to go out, someone blows on it and it flares up. The sooner people understand this, the sooner things settle down. This inconsequetial perv cannot insult me. I do not allow it. I simply delete each emssage as it comes in. It is not worth the bother of creating a message rule for it will soon be gone. Now cut the group owner/mod some slack. It is unreasonable to expect people to monitor their groups 24/7. Again, stop replying to its messages or complaining for you only empower it. You only give it the power. Take it back by using the delete key. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 8:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Mario Navarro has seriously been insulting people on the list. his language has been profane and offensive, and I'm not easily offended. Where on earth are the moderators? I've been a list mod, I get it, it's sometimes a hassle but if you're going to moderate this list you need to pay attention. This guy has now sent more than 15 messages insulting people and you all seem to be nowhere to be found. Either do your job, or abdicate. What's happening on the list right now is simply not acceptable. Please do something about it ASAP. . Sincerely, Donna Goodin Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list
Hi believer. you have absolutely right. these disgusting rats criticize me, but they love the party... And now joined to dance the same music... They are all full of shit in their heads, and so do not think like people. Not yet realized that I'm play with them... In fact, they all are guilty of their own attitudes... Each one has his hands full of stones... They are all sinners in this story, but like to portray themselves as little angels. But now the party it is over because I'm gonna turn off the lights. Now you can get back all in your lifes without shit in your heads... Em 29/03/2015 15:49, The Believer escreveu: How easily some people allow themselves to be manipulated via emails! I can only imagine what real life does to you. Some of you contimue to validate this twerp by pressing the reply button instead of the delete button. It amazes me how much power this little inconsequential it has over many of you. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/29/2015 3:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hello all, One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, because in the early days of MacVisionaries, Cara was an extremely diligent moderator. I know she took on at least one co-mod a while back, but I don't remember who that was, and that person doesn't seem to be around either. While I'm not a big believer in heavy moderation, I do think that there at least needs to be someone paying some attention so that when morons like Mario get loose, they can be removed from the list. I will therefore offer to create an alternate list, which I--and hopefully one co-mod will moderate, at least to the extent of managing subscriptions and dealing with bad behavior. However, I don't want to do this unless it is something that the majority of the community wants. Please let me know if you would like an alternate moderated list, and also if you have any wish to co-mod with me. Please note that even a low level of modding is a fair amount of work, so please don't offer unless you're willing and able to put in the time. My hope is that if there are two of us, we can set things up so the work isn't too much for either one of us. Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Proposal to create an alternate MacVisionaries list
Yeah, I'm there... Em 29/03/2015 16:21, Kliph escreveu: I already have a alternant list. It’s peel the apple. And we cover mac, iPhone, iPad, appleTV, and even have a little open discussion on the weekends. There are 2 mods. We both monitor the list very closely, and make sure everyones playing and talking nice. We don’t police very often, and thank goodness so far we haven’t had too. The list has been up and running for about 8 months now, and anyone who wants can come and join. It’s also on google groups, and the info is below. Hope to see you there! Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you. Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com Short quick getting started Tutorials:http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple And ask your question there. All are welcome! On Mar 29, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hello all, One thing that yesterday's events have made abundantly clear, is that this list is no longer being moderated. This surprises me quite a bit, because in the early days of MacVisionaries, Cara was an extremely diligent moderator. I know she took on at least one co-mod a while back, but I don't remember who that was, and that person doesn't seem to be around either. While I'm not a big believer in heavy moderation, I do think that there at least needs to be someone paying some attention so that when morons like Mario get loose, they can be removed from the list. I will therefore offer to create an alternate list, which I--and hopefully one co-mod will moderate, at least to the extent of managing subscriptions and dealing with bad behavior. However, I don't want to do this unless it is something that the majority of the community wants. Please let me know if you would like an alternate moderated list, and also if you have any wish to co-mod with me. Please note that even a low level of modding is a fair amount of work, so please don't offer unless you're willing and able to put in the time. My hope is that if there are two of us, we can set things up so the work isn't too much for either one of us. Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Fwd: This Needs to Stop
I received this message from Shawn time: 2 minutes. This proves what I said in the last message I wrote to all read below: from Shawn Mensagem Original Assunto:This Needs to Stop Data: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:19:35 -0600 De: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com Para: mario@gmail.com Mario, grow the fuck up. Just because iOS and possibly OS X isn't going the way you want it to go doesn't mean you have to shit on everybody on these lists. I mean, Mac Visionaries and Viphone are family oriented lists. People should be able to write to these lists without having to feel alienated. Even kids right to these lists. You don't know that. Show some fucking common sense and stop this bullshit. Go fuck your best friend Pablo Morales. I bet he would like it. Oh and by the way, feet doesn't have an S. The singular word for feet is foot and the plurrel form is feet. Why don't you stop learning how to cuss people out and learn to speak proper English you dumb fuck. Oh yeah, you're probably fuking Pablo up the ass so you don't have time for that. Oh yeah, and if your tiny little brain can comprehend this, *DO Not* reply to this email 'cause I don't give a shit what you have to say and I'll delete it. Again, grow the fuck up. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: My Appologies
hi Shawn. no need to apologize because no one will blame you. the devil is me ... I never treat you rough, but it was you who wrote me privately to insult me and now this fred you call me an idiot. And the worst part is that you offended the Pablo that has nothing to do with it. Pablo is not present among us in order to be able to defend from your attack. You have to apologize to Pablo, and not to your friends in the group. from my part: no hard feelings. Em 29/03/2015 18:56, BBS escreveu: Hey guys. I'm sorry for writing off list to that idiot Mario. If that ruins my reputation on this list and if you think I should be punished for it, I can accept that. I wasn't aware that he was gonna forward my email that was personally meant for him off list so again, I apologize and will just delete anything that he sends from now on. Shawn Sent From My White Macbook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Ahahahahahaha, what a big idiot you are. for now you have the biggest head full of shit. lol. Em 28/03/2015 23:58, David Griffith escreveu: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
You are not human. you just have a body of shit with ahead full a shit. fucking head... and soon the Flyes will eat all the shit in this group. no hard feelings. Em 29/03/2015 00:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Meh. I, at least, definitely was not at all offended. Dont' worry about it. Mistakes happen. We're all human, and make booboos at times. No hard feelings. It's all good. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
You going where fucking head? you can't go anywhere, because you just got shit on your head. ahahahahahah, lol. Wherever you go, all the people go away from you because you smell badly on distance. Em 29/03/2015 00:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hi Mary. can you tell me what its your name of war in the world of the prostitution? Oh wait. Maybe I guess... Mary Queen of the lesbians. This is? I bet I guessed. I'm sorry for having revealed your secret. Mary, you are so ugly with face and body of man no man fucks you. You have the body of a man, and you look like a washboard. You have a breath from the mouth to lick pussy bitch that you can kill anyone just to open your mouth. Fuck you, Queen of lesbians. Em 29/03/2015 00:51, Mary Otten escreveu: Perhaps a good short-term solution would be to make a rule the filters this idiot into the trash box. God knows when a moderator will be back on the list. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderators
Hey, stupid. what are you trying to do. fucking head? You don't have intelligence for it. You have your head full of shit and think shit. ahahahahahahah. lol. I will not go out with my feets. I will stay here to see all the idiots like you doing shit... You all just got shit in your brains, and can only think about shit... And shit attracts shit. Lol. I'm gonna stay here laughing all of you and see which one of you has more shit in the head. ahahahahahahahaha. let the show begin! Em 28/03/2015 23:20, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Wow, I was very close. I thought it was +owner, not +moderator. Whoops? Thanks for the correction; you learn something new each day. Smile. God bless. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Moderators David; The e-mail address for the group moderator is: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com - Bill Leader Dog Holland - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: Moderators Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
The shit can only suspect the shit. Em 29/03/2015 00:35, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: OK. that's actually kind of what I suspected, but figured that I'd ask. Thank you for your help. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List Need to go online at the Macvisionaries page gf Googlegroups. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs. That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have bounced with other google Groups. So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact the owner of a Google Group such as this one? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one must use a web form. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hey, asshole. your head is about to explode with so much shit accumulated. go spread up to other side. stupid idiot. this is not the way. go away piece of shit. Em 28/03/2015 23:19, David Griffith escreveu: Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
shut your mouth silly! everything is still unresolved ... think first before you talk... cheers. Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: Whatever people. I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is the key word... Did! Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed. Maybe then, you'll believe me. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Pamela Francis mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it. On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote: I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a
Re: Moderators
yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: To the moderators, is this really the type of person or content you want on this list?
fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro mario@gmail.com mailto:mario@gmail.com *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com mailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future
Re: Why aren't my pdf files reading any longer?
I will tell you why. because Apple does not hear us,and dont solve the problems... you now know why. cheers. Em 02/12/2014 18:31, Christine Grassman escreveu: I am still using Mavericks, but even so, I cannot get my pdf’s to read any longer. I had to resort to sending needed files to be converted, which is not always doable, if the files are of a personal nature. I did notice while exploring Adobe that there is something listed as Read Out Loud, which implies that there is a reader possible, but when I tried to activate it, nothing happened. Does anyone know about this? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
waw man, well spoken. I admire your courage ... who believes that the 8.1 update will clear the problems of voice over / accessibility? I do not! even half of them will not be solved ... this update to be good for us, would have to be resolved about 45 bugs. and I'm talking about the most serious ... all this will not be solved as it should and assumed with the respect it deserves ... cheers. Em 15/10/2014 20:38, Yuma Antoine Decaux escreveu: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with hs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer, and let’s not forget screen readers. Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall Yuma Antoine Decaux Light has no value without darkness Mob: +612102277190 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
Re: Safari on the Mac Podcast 4 Flexible Web
thanks man. very, very good! nice work! I will listen all this audio demo. thanks again. cheers. Enviado do meu iPhone Icloud: navarro@icloud.com Skype: navarro142 Imessage: navarro@icloud.com WhatsApp: local: 96 77 13 924 internacional: +351967713924 No dia 12/10/2014, às 15:20, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com escreveu: I had had several request to continue to post my Podcast here. So here goes. The latest Mac podcast is below. This one is on using Safari and getting a Flexible Web like experience which makes reading pages easier. Using Safari on the Mac Part 4. Flexible Web with Sweet spots and Reader commands. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi Previous Podcast Using Safari on the Mac Part 3 Bookmarking part 2- Launching bookmarks and bookmarks folders from the Desktop / or the Dock. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/04aj3b Blank URL document template to use if dragging and dropping does not work on your Mac to create bookmark shortcuts. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a Using Safari on the Mac Part 2 . Bookmarking Part 1 Bookmarking, organising bookmark folders and and organising quick access to Favourite web sites through the Favourites bar keystrokes. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z Using Safari on the Mac Part 1 – The pros and cons of Quick Nav and the Web rota. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl Using VLC to play upto 1000 Radio Stations on the Mac https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uev995 Working Radio Stream Folder and sub folders containing over 1,000 Radio Streams as explained in the above Podcast. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8v58fh Using VLC to play an RNIB Talking Books on the Mac with Variable Speed. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/kve0ky. Easy Music Listening with Column Browser in iTunes https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gp431y iTunes Part 2 Using Playlist to listen to RNIB and Mp3 Talking Books https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e6kohy Spell Checking on the Mac Part 1 https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uuul6e Spell Checking on the Mac Part 2 https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z5wvc8 Part 3 Proof Reading on the Mac. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/b3m395 An Introduction to the QFeed RSS Newsreader on the Mac https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/02uu48 Adding an RSS Feed from Safari to QFeed. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tr5unm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
help to subscribe
hi all. can anyone help me to subscribe this IPhone group. VIPhone . what is the address to subscribe? I have done everything but I can not sign up. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
ok. seems to me, that users of vo do not have new features in voice over on IOS8. because if these are the new releases for IOS8 accessibility, nothing was done especially for vo. jonathan moasen and some others blind users have made a list of the new features they would like to see the voice over on IOS8, but if these are the new accessibility to IOS8, we can consider that nothing of the desires we all have been met. and there was so much to do and improve the voice over on IOS8. I can not believe that apple has only this to offer us ... I will prepare myself for another big disappointment ... cheers . Em 01-07-2014 07:38, Christopher Hallsworth escreveu: If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the screen -- text, button labels, etc. Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom
Re: An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features – MacStories
hi. alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer expressive voices? yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages and not only for English USA. on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? now speak about speak screen. Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do specifically on the screen? because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector elements. with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the elements that can be found in the screen ... what makes this tool more? is this not more of the same? I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the selector elements. We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that informs us of what is on the screen. anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? thanks. cheers. Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much harder than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) Quote of the nanosecond . . . I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the reader mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever happened to simplicity there? LOL. On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the list. http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the operating system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new features for the mass market. As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and innovative as the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at Moscone. Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year commitment to improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that trend with iOS 8. Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain briefly how each feature works. Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the Mac, to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the screen -- text, button labels, etc. Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom functionality in iOS 8. The hallmark feature is users now have the ability to specify which part of the screen is zoomed in, as well as adjust the level of the zoom. In particular, it's now possible to have the virtual keyboard on screen at normal size underneath a zoomed-in window. What this does is makes it easy to both type and see what you're typing without having to battle the entirety of the user interface being zoomed in. Grayscale. iOS in and of itself doesn't have themes like so many third-party apps support -- and even like OS X Yosemite's new dark mode. iOS does, however, support a pseudo-theme by way of Invert Colors (white-on-black). In iOS 8, Apple is adding a second pseudo-theme to the system with Grayscale. With this option turned on, the entirety of iOS's UI is turned, as the name would imply, gray. The addition of a Grayscale is notable because it gives those users who have issues with colorized display -- or who simply view darker displays better -- another way to alter the contrast of their device(s). Guided Access. The big addition to Guided Access is that Apple is leveraging its own new-to-iOS-8 Touch ID developer API
Re: Maverick tutorial
yes. here. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast494.mp3 cheers. Em 15/01/2014 13:23, Craig J Dunlop escreveu: I know in the past I have used podcasts from vision Australia on different versions of the operating system for the Mac. I have had a hard time finding any from vision Australia for Maverick. Does anyone know if they are available? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Maverick tutorial
take a look here: http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast494.mp3 Em 15/01/2014 14:59, Alex Hall escreveu: The main differences in Mavericks are iBooks and Maps, plus new Voiceover voices. Of course, there are other changes, but they are not visible (better battery/memory management) or very easy to figure out (tabs in Finder). Most people seem to agree that iBooks is not very usable at present, and maps does work but is rather confusing. The only accessibility change I can think of is the new vo-cmd-space, which offers a menu of actions to use on the focused item. That seems more useful for switch controls than a keyboard, but it is there. On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: I used these extensively. Everything talked about was there in Mavericks. They even say that it is for Mountain Lion but can transfer over to Mavericks. Hope this gives some assurance. reggie and Allegra On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote: I know in the past I have used podcasts from vision Australia on different versions of the operating system for the Mac. I have had a hard time finding any from vision Australia for Maverick. Does anyone know if they are available? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PDF Pen
hi. one of the things that apple should improvise in voice over, was to give a much more professional support in reading pdf. support to PDF in voice over, is very basic, a shame. now any other screen reader whether commercial or not, supports reading pdf with enough professionalism, and as always the voice over continues to lag behind. these are things I can not understand why apple still does not update the voice over in this type of tasks. cheers. Em 14/01/2014 01:00, Eugenia Firth escreveu: Hi there. I don't know about the version. I have the latest one, and I have it out on forms like the IRS form 1040 that has been altered to work with screen readers. It worked great when I did it. It does not work on forms that have not been altered to work with screen readers. I have not checked this out, but I wonder if a sighted person could use PDF Pen to alter a pdf form to be accessible. I'd love to test that theory out, but I'll a tester first. Yes, you can get a trial version if you go to the web site. The address is smilesoftware.com http://smilesoftware.com. I think there are a lot of things on there we can't do, but it's a definite improvement over what we have had before with pdf files. Regards, Gigi On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eugenia, This is great news. Do you know in what version of PDFPen these improvements have been added? Have you tried it out yourself yet? And do they offer a trial version do you know? Cheers, Nic On 9 Jan 2014, at 12:56 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com mailto:gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys Below is information I received from the developers of PDF Pen. It's very good. We can't use the program for everything that it will do, but it's a definite improvement from before. Greg Scown JAN 08, 2014 | 01:45PM PST Hi Eugenia, We did do past work to make fields accessible. I'm sure that works better with forms designed for accessibility in the sense that such forms have sensible field names rather than field_00835 or something helpful like that. I do not know if the work we did will be sufficient to meet all of your needs, and we do welcome any feedback on that. Regards, Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
