Re: Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The app I used to use doesn't appear to work properly anymore.  There's a 
Notification Centre Widget called Fanny that puts basic info up in the 
Notification Centre, but not as detailed as you were asking for.  It does fan 
speed and overall CPU temp.  I have 4 cores and it only gave me one temp.  
There's supposedly another one in the App Store called "Monit", but I couldn't 
check it as it wasn't available in the Canadian AppStore.  I believe it is more 
detailed, but can't confirm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 21, 2016, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Yeah, if you could check, that would be great.  I obviously could do the same, 
and am willing to.  I just didn't know if you all knew off hand before I went 
rummaging around, if there was anything that was definitely 
recommended/accessible.
 
Again, as I said to Tim, same goes to you.  Thank you very much for your help.
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> Subject: Re: Temperature?
> 
> I think there's a battery meter app in the App Store that does some of this. 
> I think they have other things from that same vendor. I don't have my 
> Macintosh want me to check.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I used to use a product called Temperature Monitor.  Not sure if it's still 
>> out there or if it is compatible with newer MacOS's, but it was accessible 
>> and was able to read all the sensors that mattered.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 13:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare right 
>> now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
>> temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
>> It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
>> point mean the difference in me having a system that catches fire or not.  
>> I'm leaving the system off until I can find a tool where I quickly can look 
>> at a few things.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, if you could check, that would be great.  I obviously could do the same, 
and am willing to.  I just didn't know if you all knew off hand before I went 
rummaging around, if there was anything that was definitely 
recommended/accessible.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan C. Cohn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: Temperature?


  I think there's a battery meter app in the App Store that does some of this. 
I think they have other things from that same vendor. I don't have my Macintosh 
want me to check.

  Best wishes,


  Jonathan Cohn 

  On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:


Hi,


I used to use a product called Temperature Monitor.  Not sure if it's still 
out there or if it is compatible with newer MacOS's, but it was accessible and 
was able to read all the sensors that mattered.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


On Sep 21, 2016, at 13:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare 
right now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
point mean the difference in me having a system that catches fire or not.  I'm 
leaving the system off until I can find a tool where I quickly can look at a 
few things.

Chris.


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Re: Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's such a vague name, Tim, would you by chance happen to know who made the 
app?  I'll look, if not.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Temperature?


  Hi,


  I used to use a product called Temperature Monitor.  Not sure if it's still 
out there or if it is compatible with newer MacOS's, but it was accessible and 
was able to read all the sensors that mattered.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Sep 21, 2016, at 13:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare right 
now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
point mean the difference in me having a system that catches fire or not.  I'm 
leaving the system off until I can find a tool where I quickly can look at a 
few things.

  Chris.


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Re: Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I think there's a battery meter app in the App Store that does some of this. I 
think they have other things from that same vendor. I don't have my Macintosh 
want me to check.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I used to use a product called Temperature Monitor.  Not sure if it's still 
> out there or if it is compatible with newer MacOS's, but it was accessible 
> and was able to read all the sensors that mattered.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 13:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare right 
> now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
> temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
> It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
> point mean the difference in me having a system that catches fire or not.  
> I'm leaving the system off until I can find a tool where I quickly can look 
> at a few things.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I used to use a product called Temperature Monitor.  Not sure if it's still out 
there or if it is compatible with newer MacOS's, but it was accessible and was 
able to read all the sensors that mattered.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare right 
now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
point mean the difference in me having a system that catches fire or not.  I'm 
leaving the system off until I can find a tool where I quickly can look at a 
few things.
 
Chris.

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Temperature?

2016-09-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Are there any good, key word, free, as I don't have any money to spare right 
now, apps that will accessibly with Voiceover let me see the current 
temperature of all the cores on my mac, as well as the temp of my battery?  
It's a long story, but I'm in urgent need of such utility.  It could at this 
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Chris.

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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-05 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
Hi.  I just downloaded this programme and see a table with things like ambiant 
air and then a number and then the maximum and minimum limits appear blank.  So 
what temperature should things be?

thanks 
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skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 









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 Hi,
 
 There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in 
 ML.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
 at?
 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
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iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Agent086b
Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running at?
On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I believe there is a program called fan control.
it does a similar thing.

Chris Bruinenberg
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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in ML.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
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 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Esther
Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,

If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
since Tiger, then the URL is:

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
what is the mostly accessible qualification under ML?

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in 
 ML.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe there is a program called fan control.
  it does a similar thing.

  Chris Bruinenberg
  cbrui...@gmail.com

  On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

  Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
  at?
  On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
  Thanks for any help.
  Max.


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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Esther,

Mostly accessible may have been the wrong phrase.  I've just noticed that in 
some cases the temperature is not read out, it just says blank or nothing at 
all.  You can navigate up and down sometimes or sometimes VO-c will read the 
Column Header and then read the temperature out loud.  So, I guess it's more a 
consistency issue than an accessibility issue.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,
 
 If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
 since Tiger, then the URL is:
 
 http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html
 
 It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
 there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
 hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
 what is the mostly accessible qualification under ML?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in 
 ML.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
 at?
 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
 Max.
 
 
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Re: iMac Temperature

2012-11-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Also to clarify: there is a larger software program called hardware monitor 
that does a number of things. Temperature monitor itself can be downloaded 
separately and is free. I thought I should point it out because when you go to 
the website you almost immediately hear something about full software, not an 
app; definitely not available on the app store. Then it goes on to explain if 
you keep looking.
-- 
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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Esther,
 
 Mostly accessible may have been the wrong phrase.  I've just noticed that in 
 some cases the temperature is not read out, it just says blank or nothing 
 at all.  You can navigate up and down sometimes or sometimes VO-c will read 
 the Column Header and then read the temperature out loud.  So, I guess it's 
 more a consistency issue than an accessibility issue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,
 
 If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
 since Tiger, then the URL is:
 
 http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html
 
 It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
 there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
 hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
 what is the mostly accessible qualification under ML?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works 
 in ML.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
 at?
 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
 Max.
 
 
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Re: looking for a good temperature monitoring app

2012-03-20 Thread Esther
Hi Ray,

Now that Tim reminded me about this, I pulled the reference for Temperature 
Monitor from one of my posts on the old macvisionaries list archive:
Here's the web page for Temperature Monitor:
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

There are links for the download, online manual, and notes.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

 Hi,
 
 go to www.versiontracker.com and search for Temperature Monitor.  Should be 
 the first one in the list. It's free and everything you need to get the 
 temperature of is accessible.  There's probably some graphics that aren't 
 visible but that's no consequence to you reading all the necessary 
 temperatures of the sensors.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2012-03-19, at 6:56 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 subject line says it all.  anybody know of a good accessible app for 
 monitoring GPU temperature and so on?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 

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looking for a good temperature monitoring app

2012-03-19 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Hi,

subject line says it all.  anybody know of a good accessible app for monitoring 
GPU temperature and so on?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Re: looking for a good temperature monitoring app

2012-03-19 Thread Chris Blouch
I've not played with it but iStat is a widget which will give you 
temperatures of various components. It's free so give it a whirl:


http://islayer.com/apps/istatpro/

I also found two temp monitoring apps in the app store which show the 
various system temps, but they were not free:


Temperature Gauge - $8
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/temperature-gauge/id467830521?mt=12

Desktop Monitor - $2
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/desktopmonitor/id432948323?mt=12

There is also Temperature Monitor which is free and has a terminal 
interface:


http://www.bresink.de/osx/0TemperatureMonitor/download.php5

and supposedly you can then do

tempmonitor -ds -c -a -l | grep DIODE | sed -e 's/^[^:]*: //'

to get the temperature output. There is a command called ioreg in the 
terminal that supposedly has everything in it somewhere but I couldn't 
figure out where the GPU temp was in that long blob of text.


CB

On 3/19/12 8:56 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Hi,

subject line says it all.  anybody know of a good accessible app for 
monitoring GPU temperature and so on?



Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Re: looking for a good temperature monitoring app

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

go to www.versiontracker.com and search for Temperature Monitor.  Should be the 
first one in the list. It's free and everything you need to get the temperature 
of is accessible.  There's probably some graphics that aren't visible but 
that's no consequence to you reading all the necessary temperatures of the 
sensors.

Later...

On 2012-03-19, at 6:56 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Hi,
 
 subject line says it all.  anybody know of a good accessible app for 
 monitoring GPU temperature and so on?
 
 
 Sincerely,
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 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-13 Thread Keith Watson
Nice. Glad to hear that you got a work around going.

I am playing with removing the say part of that string and setting all that up 
as variables in the Apple Script itself. Seems to run a little faster.

Keith


On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Just tried is on Snow Leopard and got an error on the -r argument so it must 
 be new to Lion. For non-lion users I managed to prepending the rate command 
 to the text using sed which worked fine:
 
 curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 sed s/^/[[rate 900]]/ | say
 
 CB
 
 On 9/11/11 5:43 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 Ester,
 
 I did not know that the rate switch was not available in earlier versions of 
 OSX. I actually found it by…wait for it…RTFMing. Grin. Doing a man on say 
 gave me all that info. The value for the rate is in words per minute 
 according to the man page. Quite frankly I think they are full of it because 
 I set it to 1000 and was able to understand every word. Maybe Alex tops out 
 at around 600 or so.
 
 Anyway, having fun playing around with all this myself. Now if only I could 
 get Tessa to cook me a nice dinner I would be in heaven.
 
 Keith
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to 
 announce the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as an 
 argument and use any of your installed system voices (including the InfoVox 
 voices if you have them).  For example, if you're a French user in Snow 
 Leopard with the InfoVox French voice you could change the last part of 
 that shell script to a pipe to  say -v Alice, for example, or other valid 
 voice on your system.  It looks as though there's an extra argument to the 
 say command in Lion that is not in Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch 
 allow you to specify a speech rate?  (That's not something you can do in 
 earlier versions of Mac OS X.)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
 facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
 information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
 temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means 
 continue to use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if 
 you like or dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our 
 information.
 
 So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. 
 Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With 
 this code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the 
 interest of full disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac 
 Hints snippet in case anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to 
 be hotter today than yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you substitute 
 33617 with your own zip  code.
 
 *** Code starts on next line ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 say -r 400
 *** Code ends here ***
 
 Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.
 
 *** Code starts on next line. ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 awk '/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout 
 -format html | say -r 400
 *** Code ends here. ***
 
 
 If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to ask or 
 criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than the other 
 way, but it does not require any additional installs.
 
 Have fun.
 
 Keith
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that 
 widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends 
 justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, 
 aside from the learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this 
 widget is always going to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar 
 available. Another point here to keep in mind is that you cannot control 
 the sources of the weather widget; however, this script could conceivably 
 be used to pull weather data from nearly any source. In fact you could 
 even have your own weather station and use such a script to capture the 
 information from that weather station.
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of 
 work just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just 
 my $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo 
 points out

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Rate argument works fine in Lion. I've adjusted it to various values and it's 
great.

Teresa
On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Keith Watson wrote:

 Ester,
 
 I did not know that the rate switch was not available in earlier versions of 
 OSX. I actually found it by…wait for it…RTFMing. Grin. Doing a man on say 
 gave me all that info. The value for the rate is in words per minute 
 according to the man page. Quite frankly I think they are full of it because 
 I set it to 1000 and was able to understand every word. Maybe Alex tops out 
 at around 600 or so.
 
 Anyway, having fun playing around with all this myself. Now if only I could 
 get Tessa to cook me a nice dinner I would be in heaven.
 
 Keith
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to 
 announce the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as an 
 argument and use any of your installed system voices (including the InfoVox 
 voices if you have them).  For example, if you're a French user in Snow 
 Leopard with the InfoVox French voice you could change the last part of that 
 shell script to a pipe to  say -v Alice, for example, or other valid voice 
 on your system.  It looks as though there's an extra argument to the say 
 command in Lion that is not in Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch allow you 
 to specify a speech rate?  (That's not something you can do in earlier 
 versions of Mac OS X.)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
 facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
 information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
 temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means continue 
 to use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if you like or 
 dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our information.
 
 So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. 
 Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With 
 this code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the 
 interest of full disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac Hints 
 snippet in case anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to be 
 hotter today than yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you substitute 
 33617 with your own zip  code.
 
 *** Code starts on next line ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 say -r 400
 *** Code ends here ***
 
 Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.
 
 *** Code starts on next line. ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 awk '/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout 
 -format html | say -r 400
 *** Code ends here. ***
 
 
 If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to ask or 
 criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than the other way, 
 but it does not require any additional installs.
 
 Have fun.
 
 Keith
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that 
 widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends 
 justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, 
 aside from the learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this 
 widget is always going to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar 
 available. Another point here to keep in mind is that you cannot control 
 the sources of the weather widget; however, this script could conceivably 
 be used to pull weather data from nearly any source. In fact you could 
 even have your own weather station and use such a script to capture the 
 information from that weather station.
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of 
 work just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my 
 $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo 
 points out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is 
 just great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all 
 times. iN fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. 
 The other point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how 
 such scripts could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to 
 accomplish the same task, but you need to look beyond this specific task 
 and see it for what it is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what 
 more do you people want? Not much, but a new experience in how 
 something simple can

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-12 Thread Chris Blouch
Just tried is on Snow Leopard and got an error on the -r argument so it 
must be new to Lion. For non-lion users I managed to prepending the rate 
command to the text using sed which worked fine:


curl -s 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 
| grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format 
html | sed s/^/[[rate 900]]/ | say


CB

On 9/11/11 5:43 PM, Keith Watson wrote:

Ester,

I did not know that the rate switch was not available in earlier 
versions of OSX. I actually found it by…wait for it…RTFMing. Grin. 
Doing a man on say gave me all that info. The value for the rate is in 
words per minute according to the man page. Quite frankly I think they 
are full of it because I set it to 1000 and was able to understand 
every word. Maybe Alex tops out at around 600 or so.


Anyway, having fun playing around with all this myself. Now if only I 
could get Tessa to cook me a nice dinner I would be in heaven.


Keith

On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:


Hi Keith,

I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to 
announce the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as 
an argument and use any of your installed system voices (including 
the InfoVox voices if you have them).  For example, if you're a 
French user in Snow Leopard with the InfoVox French voice you could 
change the last part of that shell script to a pipe to  say -v 
Alice, for example, or other valid voice on your system.  It looks 
as though there's an extra argument to the say command in Lion that 
is not in Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch allow you to specify a 
speech rate?  (That's not something you can do in earlier versions of 
Mac OS X.)


Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:


All,

Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and 
to facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want 
all the information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted 
was the outside temperature. If the weather widget works for you 
then by all means continue to use it and ignore this thread. I could 
really give a crap if you like or dislike the way myself or others 
wish to garner our information.


So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with 
curl. Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into 
it. With this code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. 
And in the interest of full disclosure, I am also going to post the 
original Mac Hints snippet in case anyone is interested in whether 
or not it's going to be hotter today than yesterday. Oh and as 
before, make sure you substitute 33617 with your own zip  code.


*** Code starts on next line ***
*do shell script* curl -s 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 
| grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout 
-format html | say -r 400

*** Code ends here ***

Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.

*** Code starts on next line. ***
*do shell script* curl -s 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 
| awk '/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin 
-stdout -format html | say -r 400

*** Code ends here. ***


If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to 
ask or criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than 
the other way, but it does not require any additional installs.


Have fun.

Keith
On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have 
that widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but 
the ends justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of 
course; however, aside from the learning opportunity, you still are 
assuming that this widget is always going to be in focus. FOr me I 
always have the calendar available. Another point here to keep in 
mind is that you cannot control the sources of the weather widget; 
however, this script could conceivably be used to pull weather data 
from nearly any source. In fact you could even have your own 
weather station and use such a script to capture the information 
from that weather station.

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a 
lot of work just to duplicate something that already exists on the 
Mac.  Just my $.02.

Cheers,
donna

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. 
Ricardo points out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather 
widget  and that is just great; however, not everyone has that 
particular item there at all times. iN fact I tend to keep the 
calendar widget as the one with focus. The other point some have 
missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts could 
be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the 
same task, but you

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-12 Thread Esther
Hi Chris and Keith,

Chris, that was a clever use of sed and regular expressions to prepend the rate 
argument to the beginning of the text being piped to the say command.  Keith, 
if you want to play around more with the other embedded commands for speech, 
you'll find them in the Apple Developer Connection documentation. The site is:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/SpeechSynthesisProgrammingGuide/index.html
 

(That's all one line.)  Embedded commands are described in the section titled 
Techniques for Customizing Synthesized Speech -  Use Embedded Speech 
Commands to Fine-Tune Spoken Output.

There are a whole lot of 4 character embedded commands besides the rate command 
that Chris used, and they're all enclosed in a double set of brackets. Here are 
some:

char  speaks the following word letter by letter
cmnt  lets you insert a comment that isn't spoken
ctxt  identifies a context for speech synthesizer pronunciation (I've never 
tried this)
dlim  lets you change the delimiter characters used for embedded speech commands
emph  lets you increase or decrease emphasis of the next word (takes an 
argument of + or -)
inpt  lets you change the pronunciation model from straight text to options 
like phonetic (takes an argument)
nmbr  lets you speak numbers digit by digit if you use the LTRL argument 
instead of NORM
pbas  changes current speech pitch (takes an argument with + or -)
pmod  changes pitch modulation range (takes an argument with +' or -)
rate  sets the speaking rate; can be used either with a value or by increasing 
or decreasing (with + or -)
rset  resets speech parameters to default values (may need to be rset 0)
slnc  lets you add a period of silence (takes an argument)
volm  lets you set or increase/decrease volume (takes an argument)

There are a few more sequences described in the document for fancier functions. 

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 12, 2011, at 11:00, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Just tried is on Snow Leopard and got an error on the -r argument so it must 
 be new to Lion. For non-lion users I managed to prepending the rate command 
 to the text using sed which worked fine:
 
 curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 sed s/^/[[rate 900]]/ | say
 
 CB
 
 On 9/11/11 5:43 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 Ester,
 
 I did not know that the rate switch was not available in earlier versions of 
 OSX. I actually found it by…wait for it…RTFMing. Grin. Doing a man 
 on say gave me all that info. The value for the rate is in words per minute 
 according to the man page. Quite frankly I think they are full of it because 
 I set it to 1000 and was able to understand every word. Maybe Alex tops out 
 at around 600 or so.
 
 Anyway, having fun playing around with all this myself. Now if only I could 
 get Tessa to cook me a nice dinner I would be in heaven.
 
 Keith
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to 
 announce the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as an 
 argument and use any of your installed system voices (including the InfoVox 
 voices if you have them).  For example, if you're a French user in Snow 
 Leopard with the InfoVox French voice you could change the last part of 
 that shell script to a pipe to  say -v Alice, for example, or other valid 
 voice on your system.  It looks as though there's an extra argument to the 
 say command in Lion that is not in Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch 
 allow you to specify a speech rate?  (That's not something you can do in 
 earlier versions of Mac OS X.)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
 facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
 information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
 temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means 
 continue to use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if 
 you like or dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our 
 information.
 
 So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. 
 Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With 
 this code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the 
 interest of full disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac 
 Hints snippet in case anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to 
 be hotter today than yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you
  substitute 33617 with your own zip  code.
 
 *** Code starts on next line ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 say -r

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, as 
there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including the Lynx 
browser.

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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

You know what,

For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature and 
current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are pretty 
much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?

Ricardo Walker
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 there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including the 
 Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey Keith,

Thanks for the tip on the lynx app, it made me explore every command in the 
usr/bin and gave me a few more shell script ideas.

Like the fact that it can also be mapped to anything, key, gesture, voice, 
whatever :)

Best regards,

Yuma 
On 11/09/2011, at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, as 
 there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including the 
 Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Watson
Johnathan,

Tried curl. Unfortunately the dump is not plain text as in lynx. It more 
resembles xml than anything else. I am not far enough into learning Apple 
Script to be able to handle parsing text strings yet, so chose this method. 
Attempted to use python to do it, but it wanted to open a terminal every time I 
ran it. Got pissed off so went in another direction and wound up with what I 
posted.

If there is anyone familiar with how to parse the curl output I would 
appreciate the input.

Thanks,

Keith

On Sep 10, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Jon Cohn wrote:

 I don't believe you need to actually use lynx for this...
 
 And if you don't need lynx then you don't need the developer tools and a UNIX 
 port program (macport and/or fink).  The Macintosh has built-in for the 
 command line the curl command that can take a ftp and/or an http request and 
 download (and possibly upload) a file or set of files.
 
 So you should be able to replace the lynx command with a slightly different 
 curl command.  Also, AppleScript has had for over 10 years the ability to 
 directly retrieve URL's in the standard suite.
 
 Hope this helps and best wishes,
 
 Jonathan
 
 On Sep 10, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
  Disclaimer 
 Those of you who choose to follow these steps do so at their own risk. I 
 take no responsibility for any problems or issues you may encounter. These 
 steps are straight forward but not for the faint of heart.
 
 Ok, so now that I got that out of the way lets begin.
 
 Step 1: If you do not already have it installed go to the Mac App Store and 
 get Xcode. Once it has completed downloading go to Applications in the 
 Finder and open the Install Xcode installation package. Follow all the 
 install prompts.
 
 Step 2: Go to http://www.macports.org and get the latest install for your 
 version of the operating system. They have Lion. Once it's downloaded open 
 the DMG and then the PKG and follow the install instructions.
 
 Step 3: Open a terminal and at the prompt type the following command:
 
 sudo port install lynx
 
 Please note that lynx is spelled l y n x. For those of you who are not 
 familiar with lynx, it's a command line browser. Once the install is 
 completed and you are placed back at a prompt,  command q out of the 
 terminal.
 
 Step 4: From Utilities open the Apple Script Editor and cut and paste the 
 following code into the edit area.
 
 --- Code Starts Here ---
 # Script to have Voice Over speak the current temperature.
 # Written by Keith Watson on September 10, 2011.
 #
 # Using lynx get forecast from wunderground and dump to a text file.
 do shell script /opt/local/bin/lynx -dump 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -m 1 -A 1 Temperature /tmp/weather.tmp
 #
 # Convert text dump from lynx to UTF-8 format.
 #
 do shell script /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 /tmp/weather.tmp  
 /tmp/weather
 #
 # Have say parse the text file to Alex or your voice of choice.
 # The -r value is in words per minute. The higher the faster.
 #
 do shell script /usr/bin/say -v Alex -r 450 -f /tmp/weather
 #
 # Clean up after myself.
 #
 do shell script rm /tmp/weather*
 --- Code Ends Here 
 
 Be sure to change my zip code for yours. 33617 to your zip code. Also for 
 the fun of it you can change the line with -v Alex -r 450 to your favorite 
 voice and a comfortable rate.
 
 Save the file in a location that you are going to remember. I have created a 
 sub directory in my Documents folder called Scripts and save my Apple 
 Scripts in there. You can test the script by running it with a command r. 
 If all is well, exit the editor.
 
 Step 5: Open the Voice Over Utility and add the script to your favorite 
 commander. I chose lower case w from the keyboard commander so that I could 
 eventually add capital W for the full up forecast. Will post that script 
 after I write it.
 
 I have a request for those of you who may be familiar with Apple Scripting. 
 This script is not very elegant since I brute force converted it from an old 
 bash script. I am just getting started with Apple Scripting and if you see a 
 better way to do this please feel free to make any changes and post here.
 
 Thakns,
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Donna Goodin
That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and interact, 
you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
Cheers,
Donna

On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, as 
 there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including the 
 Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Watson
Nope, the intent was to only have the temperature read to you. Not the entire 
forecast. And I sort of like to have Tessa tell me what the temp is. Being from 
South Africa on my mothers side it brings back fond memories.

Keith
 
On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
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 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, as 
 there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including the 
 Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Howell
What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points out 
that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just great; 
however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. iN fact I 
tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The other point some 
have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts could be very 
useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the same task, but you need 
to look beyond this specific task and see it for what it is and that is a 
learning opportunity. So, what more do you people want? Not much, but a new 
experience in how something simple can be used for other tasks. Of course if 
there is a way to use the applications available in the OS such as curl that 
would be great since it means just one less thing to load.

On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Donna Goodin
True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of work 
just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my $.02.
Cheers,
donna

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points 
 out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just great; 
 however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. iN fact I 
 tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The other point some 
 have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts could be 
 very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the same task, but 
 you need to look beyond this specific task and see it for what it is and that 
 is a learning opportunity. So, what more do you people want? Not much, but 
 a new experience in how something simple can be used for other tasks. Of 
 course if there is a way to use the applications available in the OS such as 
 curl that would be great since it means just one less thing to load.
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Scott Howell
Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that widget 
always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends justifies the 
means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, aside from the 
learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this widget is always going 
to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar available. Another point here 
to keep in mind is that you cannot control the sources of the weather widget; 
however, this script could conceivably be used to pull weather data from nearly 
any source. In fact you could even have your own weather station and use such a 
script to capture the information from that weather station.
On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of work 
 just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points 
 out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just 
 great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. iN 
 fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The other 
 point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts 
 could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the same 
 task, but you need to look beyond this specific task and see it for what it 
 is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what more do you people want? 
 Not much, but a new experience in how something simple can be used for other 
 tasks. Of course if there is a way to use the applications available in the 
 OS such as curl that would be great since it means just one less thing to 
 load.
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Watson
All,

Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means continue to 
use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if you like or 
dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our information.

So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. Open 
your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With this code 
you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the interest of full 
disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac Hints snippet in case 
anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to be hotter today than 
yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you substitute 33617 with your own zip  
code.

*** Code starts on next line ***
do shell script curl -s 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | grep 
-A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | say -r 
400
*** Code ends here ***

Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.

*** Code starts on next line. ***
do shell script curl -s 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | awk 
'/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format 
html | say -r 400
*** Code ends here. ***


If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to ask or 
criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than the other way, but 
it does not require any additional installs.

Have fun.

Keith
On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that 
 widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends 
 justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, aside 
 from the learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this widget is 
 always going to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar available. 
 Another point here to keep in mind is that you cannot control the sources of 
 the weather widget; however, this script could conceivably be used to pull 
 weather data from nearly any source. In fact you could even have your own 
 weather station and use such a script to capture the information from that 
 weather station.
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of 
 work just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my 
 $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points 
 out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just 
 great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. 
 iN fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The other 
 point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts 
 could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the same 
 task, but you need to look beyond this specific task and see it for what it 
 is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what more do you people want? 
 Not much, but a new experience in how something simple can be used for 
 other tasks. Of course if there is a way to use the applications available 
 in the OS such as curl that would be great since it means just one less 
 thing to load.
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the 
 temperature and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what 
 people are pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current 
 weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, 
 either, as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, 
 including the Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
Then there's always playing with scripts when you have a bit of time on your 
hands. That's basically what I was doing. I wanted to get the mac ports anyhow.

Teresa
On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Esther
Hi Keith,

I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to announce 
the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as an argument and use 
any of your installed system voices (including the InfoVox voices if you have 
them).  For example, if you're a French user in Snow Leopard with the InfoVox 
French voice you could change the last part of that shell script to a pipe to  
say -v Alice, for example, or other valid voice on your system.  It looks as 
though there's an extra argument to the say command in Lion that is not in 
Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch allow you to specify a speech rate?  (That's 
not something you can do in earlier versions of Mac OS X.)

Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:

 All,
 
 Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
 facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
 information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
 temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means continue 
 to use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if you like or 
 dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our information.
 
 So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. 
 Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With this 
 code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the interest of 
 full disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac Hints snippet in 
 case anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to be hotter today 
 than yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you substitute 33617 with your 
 own zip  code.
 
 *** Code starts on next line ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 say -r 400
 *** Code ends here ***
 
 Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.
 
 *** Code starts on next line. ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | awk 
 '/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format 
 html | say -r 400
 *** Code ends here. ***
 
 
 If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to ask or 
 criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than the other way, 
 but it does not require any additional installs.
 
 Have fun.
 
 Keith
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that 
 widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends 
 justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, aside 
 from the learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this widget is 
 always going to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar available. 
 Another point here to keep in mind is that you cannot control the sources of 
 the weather widget; however, this script could conceivably be used to pull 
 weather data from nearly any source. In fact you could even have your own 
 weather station and use such a script to capture the information from that 
 weather station.
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of 
 work just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my 
 $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points 
 out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just 
 great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. 
 iN fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The 
 other point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such 
 scripts could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish 
 the same task, but you need to look beyond this specific task and see it 
 for what it is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what more do you 
 people want? Not much, but a new experience in how something simple can 
 be used for other tasks. Of course if there is a way to use the 
 applications available in the OS such as curl that would be great since it 
 means just one less thing to load.
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the 
 temperature and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that 
 what people are pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your 
 current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Traci
I am enjoying this thread.  I agree that the weather widget isn't always up 
front in dash board.  For me, it might be the translation app.


Keith, if I use your second method with curl, is it that simple.  I copy and 
paste that code into script edit, and while still in script edit, I hit 
command-r to see if I did it correctly?


I'm so excited if I can do this!  It is a silly thing, but a feature of 
window-eyes I have enjoyed!


Thank you for working on this.

Traci

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script


Nope, the intent was to only have the temperature read to you. Not the 
entire forecast. And I sort of like to have Tessa tell me what the temp 
is. Being from South Africa on my mothers side it brings back fond 
memories.


Keith

On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

You know what,

For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the 
temperature and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what 
people are pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current 
weather?


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, 
either, as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, 
including the Lynx browser.


teresa

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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Yuma Decaux
It's just different schools of thought. Some mac users don't want to learn the 
terminal nor scripting as it is quite a complicated albeit powerful tool, while 
those who do have a comprehensive set of skills in unix and have delved into 
appplescript can actually find their ways into making their macs pretty unique 
in the way they use it. I can speak for those in IT as a lot of tasks are 
repetitive, involve many terminal commands, and those scripts are a real time 
saver.

I'm in the latter school, and sometimes i need to tone myself down when i have 
a discussion with mates over beer and the subject of voice over, jaws etc, but 
most importantly the use of the computer hits the table. I get amazed by how 
some just don't google stuff they wish to know, or at least don't make it a 
form of extension of themselves. But i know that they will get to it one day, i 
just won't push them to.

In the meantime, i prefer customizing my experience with a gesture and peter 
infovox telling me what temperature it is, nothing else. Just like the time 
script i wrote in my early days of scripting.

Cheers 





On 12/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of work 
 just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo points 
 out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is just 
 great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all times. iN 
 fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. The other 
 point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how such scripts 
 could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to accomplish the same 
 task, but you need to look beyond this specific task and see it for what it 
 is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what more do you people want? 
 Not much, but a new experience in how something simple can be used for other 
 tasks. Of course if there is a way to use the applications available in the 
 OS such as curl that would be great since it means just one less thing to 
 load.
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 That was my question, too, Ricardo.  Then if you VO to the right and 
 interact, you get a 6-day forecast.  What more do people want?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Dan Roy
Works just fine here, thanks to the person who posted the whole thing on 
Dashboard, I used to hate it, now that it's configured differently, I like it 
vary much.


On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 Hey Keith,
 
 Thanks for the tip on the lynx app, it made me explore every command in the 
 usr/bin and gave me a few more shell script ideas.
 
 Like the fact that it can also be mapped to anything, key, gesture, voice, 
 whatever :)
 
 Best regards,
 
 Yuma 
 On 11/09/2011, at 6:36 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Watson
Ester,

I did not know that the rate switch was not available in earlier versions of 
OSX. I actually found it by…wait for it…RTFMing. Grin. Doing a man on say 
gave me all that info. The value for the rate is in words per minute according 
to the man page. Quite frankly I think they are full of it because I set it to 
1000 and was able to understand every word. Maybe Alex tops out at around 600 
or so.

Anyway, having fun playing around with all this myself. Now if only I could get 
Tessa to cook me a nice dinner I would be in heaven.

Keith

On Sep 11, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Keith,
 
 I'll just add that if you want the say command in your AppleScript to 
 announce the temperature in another voice, you can also set that as an 
 argument and use any of your installed system voices (including the InfoVox 
 voices if you have them).  For example, if you're a French user in Snow 
 Leopard with the InfoVox French voice you could change the last part of that 
 shell script to a pipe to  say -v Alice, for example, or other valid voice 
 on your system.  It looks as though there's an extra argument to the say 
 command in Lion that is not in Snow Leopard.  Does the r switch allow you 
 to specify a speech rate?  (That's not something you can do in earlier 
 versions of Mac OS X.)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 05:27, Keith Watson wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Like Scott said, this was an exercise in learning Apple Script and to 
 facilitate the request of another list member. They did not want all the 
 information that the weather widget gave. All they wanted was the outside 
 temperature. If the weather widget works for you then by all means continue 
 to use it and ignore this thread. I could really give a crap if you like or 
 dislike the way myself or others wish to garner our information.
 
 So with that said, I have found that there is a way to do this with curl. 
 Open your Apple Script editor and copy the following line into it. With this 
 code you do not have to install Xcode or Mac Ports. And in the interest of 
 full disclosure, I am also going to post the original Mac Hints snippet in 
 case anyone is interested in whether or not it's going to be hotter today 
 than yesterday. Oh and as before, make sure you substitute 33617 with your 
 own zip  code.
 
 *** Code starts on next line ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -A 2 tempActual | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout -format html | 
 say -r 400
 *** Code ends here ***
 
 Original Mac Hints code, with a pipe to say added by me.
 
 *** Code starts on next line. ***
 do shell script curl -s 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 awk '/Today is/ || /Tomorrow is/' | textutil -convert txt -stdin -stdout 
 -format html | say -r 400
 *** Code ends here. ***
 
 
 If you have any problems or suggestions, please don;t hesitate to ask or 
 criticize. I personally find that this method is slower than the other way, 
 but it does not require any additional installs.
 
 Have fun.
 
 Keith
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Donna, you are making the assumption that someone would always have that 
 widget always in focus. This may be a lot of work for you, but the ends 
 justifies the means. Your entitled to your opinion of course; however, 
 aside from the learning opportunity, you still are assuming that this 
 widget is always going to be in focus. FOr me I always have the calendar 
 available. Another point here to keep in mind is that you cannot control 
 the sources of the weather widget; however, this script could conceivably 
 be used to pull weather data from nearly any source. In fact you could even 
 have your own weather station and use such a script to capture the 
 information from that weather station.
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 True, it is a learning opportunity.  though to me it seems like a lot of 
 work just to duplicate something that already exists on the Mac.  Just my 
 $.02.
 Cheers,
 donna
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 What amazes me is that some missed the point of the script. Ricardo 
 points out that hitting f12 drops him on the weather widget  and that is 
 just great; however, not everyone has that particular item there at all 
 times. iN fact I tend to keep the calendar widget as the one with focus. 
 The other point some have missed here is the learning opportunity of how 
 such scripts could be very useful. Perhaps there are other ways to 
 accomplish the same task, but you need to look beyond this specific task 
 and see it for what it is and that is a learning opportunity. So, what 
 more do you people want? Not much, but a new experience in how 
 something simple can be used for other tasks. Of course if there is a way 
 to use the applications available in the OS such as curl that would be 
 great since it means just one less

Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Watson
Tracey,

Yep, all you do is copy that line into the Apple Script editor and then do a 
command r to run it. Once you see it is working you then save it off to a file 
and point the Voice Over keyboard commander at the file and away you go.

Keith
On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Traci wrote:

 I am enjoying this thread.  I agree that the weather widget isn't always up 
 front in dash board.  For me, it might be the translation app.
 
 Keith, if I use your second method with curl, is it that simple.  I copy and 
 paste that code into script edit, and while still in script edit, I hit 
 command-r to see if I did it correctly?
 
 I'm so excited if I can do this!  It is a silly thing, but a feature of 
 window-eyes I have enjoyed!
 
 Thank you for working on this.
 
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script
 
 
 Nope, the intent was to only have the temperature read to you. Not the 
 entire forecast. And I sort of like to have Tessa tell me what the temp is. 
 Being from South Africa on my mothers side it brings back fond memories.
 
 Keith
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You know what,
 
 For me, when I press F12, the focus automatically falls on the temperature 
 and current weather condition in dash board.  Isn't that what people are 
 pretty much looking for?  Press 1 key and get your current weather?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Thanks, Keith. That's pretty slick. I don't mind having MacPorts, either, 
 as there are some things I wouldn't mind playing with in there, including 
 the Lynx browser.
 
 teresa
 
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Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-10 Thread Keith Watson
Hi All,

 Disclaimer 
Those of you who choose to follow these steps do so at their own risk. I take 
no responsibility for any problems or issues you may encounter. These steps are 
straight forward but not for the faint of heart.

Ok, so now that I got that out of the way lets begin.

Step 1: If you do not already have it installed go to the Mac App Store and get 
Xcode. Once it has completed downloading go to Applications in the Finder and 
open the Install Xcode installation package. Follow all the install prompts.

Step 2: Go to http://www.macports.org and get the latest install for your 
version of the operating system. They have Lion. Once it's downloaded open the 
DMG and then the PKG and follow the install instructions.

Step 3: Open a terminal and at the prompt type the following command:

sudo port install lynx

Please note that lynx is spelled l y n x. For those of you who are not familiar 
with lynx, it's a command line browser. Once the install is completed and you 
are placed back at a prompt,  command q out of the terminal.

Step 4: From Utilities open the Apple Script Editor and cut and paste the 
following code into the edit area.

--- Code Starts Here ---
# Script to have Voice Over speak the current temperature.
# Written by Keith Watson on September 10, 2011.
#
# Using lynx get forecast from wunderground and dump to a text file.
do shell script /opt/local/bin/lynx -dump 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | grep 
-m 1 -A 1 Temperature /tmp/weather.tmp
#
# Convert text dump from lynx to UTF-8 format.
#
do shell script /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 /tmp/weather.tmp  
/tmp/weather
#
# Have say parse the text file to Alex or your voice of choice.
# The -r value is in words per minute. The higher the faster.
#
do shell script /usr/bin/say -v Alex -r 450 -f /tmp/weather
#
# Clean up after myself.
#
do shell script rm /tmp/weather*
--- Code Ends Here 

Be sure to change my zip code for yours. 33617 to your zip code. Also for the 
fun of it you can change the line with -v Alex -r 450 to your favorite voice 
and a comfortable rate.

Save the file in a location that you are going to remember. I have created a 
sub directory in my Documents folder called Scripts and save my Apple Scripts 
in there. You can test the script by running it with a command r. If all is 
well, exit the editor.

Step 5: Open the Voice Over Utility and add the script to your favorite 
commander. I chose lower case w from the keyboard commander so that I could 
eventually add capital W for the full up forecast. Will post that script after 
I write it.

I have a request for those of you who may be familiar with Apple Scripting. 
This script is not very elegant since I brute force converted it from an old 
bash script. I am just getting started with Apple Scripting and if you see a 
better way to do this please feel free to make any changes and post here.

Thakns,

Keith

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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-10 Thread Traci
Wow, I'm impressed.  I might get brave and try this.  :)

Thanks,
Traci

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Watson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:43 AM
  Subject: Weather / Temperature Apple Script


  Hi All,


   Disclaimer 
  Those of you who choose to follow these steps do so at their own risk. I take 
no responsibility for any problems or issues you may encounter. These steps are 
straight forward but not for the faint of heart.


  Ok, so now that I got that out of the way lets begin.


  Step 1: If you do not already have it installed go to the Mac App Store and 
get Xcode. Once it has completed downloading go to Applications in the Finder 
and open the Install Xcode installation package. Follow all the install 
prompts.


  Step 2: Go to http://www.macports.org and get the latest install for your 
version of the operating system. They have Lion. Once it's downloaded open the 
DMG and then the PKG and follow the install instructions.


  Step 3: Open a terminal and at the prompt type the following command:


  sudo port install lynx


  Please note that lynx is spelled l y n x. For those of you who are not 
familiar with lynx, it's a command line browser. Once the install is completed 
and you are placed back at a prompt,  command q out of the terminal.


  Step 4: From Utilities open the Apple Script Editor and cut and paste the 
following code into the edit area.


  --- Code Starts Here ---
  # Script to have Voice Over speak the current temperature.
  # Written by Keith Watson on September 10, 2011.
  #
  # Using lynx get forecast from wunderground and dump to a text file.
  do shell script /opt/local/bin/lynx -dump 
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | grep 
-m 1 -A 1 Temperature /tmp/weather.tmp
  #
  # Convert text dump from lynx to UTF-8 format.
  #
  do shell script /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 /tmp/weather.tmp  
/tmp/weather
  #
  # Have say parse the text file to Alex or your voice of choice.
  # The -r value is in words per minute. The higher the faster.
  #
  do shell script /usr/bin/say -v Alex -r 450 -f /tmp/weather
  #
  # Clean up after myself.
  #
  do shell script rm /tmp/weather*
  --- Code Ends Here 


  Be sure to change my zip code for yours. 33617 to your zip code. Also for the 
fun of it you can change the line with -v Alex -r 450 to your favorite voice 
and a comfortable rate.


  Save the file in a location that you are going to remember. I have created a 
sub directory in my Documents folder called Scripts and save my Apple Scripts 
in there. You can test the script by running it with a command r. If all is 
well, exit the editor.


  Step 5: Open the Voice Over Utility and add the script to your favorite 
commander. I chose lower case w from the keyboard commander so that I could 
eventually add capital W for the full up forecast. Will post that script after 
I write it.


  I have a request for those of you who may be familiar with Apple Scripting. 
This script is not very elegant since I brute force converted it from an old 
bash script. I am just getting started with Apple Scripting and if you see a 
better way to do this please feel free to make any changes and post here.


  Thakns,


  Keith



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Re: Weather / Temperature Apple Script

2011-09-10 Thread Jon Cohn
I don't believe you need to actually use lynx for this...

And if you don't need lynx then you don't need the developer tools and a UNIX 
port program (macport and/or fink).  The Macintosh has built-in for the command 
line the curl command that can take a ftp and/or an http request and download 
(and possibly upload) a file or set of files.

So you should be able to replace the lynx command with a slightly different 
curl command.  Also, AppleScript has had for over 10 years the ability to 
directly retrieve URL's in the standard suite.

Hope this helps and best wishes,

Jonathan

On Sep 10, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Keith Watson wrote:

 Hi All,
 
  Disclaimer 
 Those of you who choose to follow these steps do so at their own risk. I take 
 no responsibility for any problems or issues you may encounter. These steps 
 are straight forward but not for the faint of heart.
 
 Ok, so now that I got that out of the way lets begin.
 
 Step 1: If you do not already have it installed go to the Mac App Store and 
 get Xcode. Once it has completed downloading go to Applications in the Finder 
 and open the Install Xcode installation package. Follow all the install 
 prompts.
 
 Step 2: Go to http://www.macports.org and get the latest install for your 
 version of the operating system. They have Lion. Once it's downloaded open 
 the DMG and then the PKG and follow the install instructions.
 
 Step 3: Open a terminal and at the prompt type the following command:
 
 sudo port install lynx
 
 Please note that lynx is spelled l y n x. For those of you who are not 
 familiar with lynx, it's a command line browser. Once the install is 
 completed and you are placed back at a prompt,  command q out of the terminal.
 
 Step 4: From Utilities open the Apple Script Editor and cut and paste the 
 following code into the edit area.
 
 --- Code Starts Here ---
 # Script to have Voice Over speak the current temperature.
 # Written by Keith Watson on September 10, 2011.
 #
 # Using lynx get forecast from wunderground and dump to a text file.
 do shell script /opt/local/bin/lynx -dump 
 http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33617 | 
 grep -m 1 -A 1 Temperature /tmp/weather.tmp
 #
 # Convert text dump from lynx to UTF-8 format.
 #
 do shell script /usr/bin/iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 /tmp/weather.tmp  
 /tmp/weather
 #
 # Have say parse the text file to Alex or your voice of choice.
 # The -r value is in words per minute. The higher the faster.
 #
 do shell script /usr/bin/say -v Alex -r 450 -f /tmp/weather
 #
 # Clean up after myself.
 #
 do shell script rm /tmp/weather*
 --- Code Ends Here 
 
 Be sure to change my zip code for yours. 33617 to your zip code. Also for the 
 fun of it you can change the line with -v Alex -r 450 to your favorite 
 voice and a comfortable rate.
 
 Save the file in a location that you are going to remember. I have created a 
 sub directory in my Documents folder called Scripts and save my Apple Scripts 
 in there. You can test the script by running it with a command r. If all is 
 well, exit the editor.
 
 Step 5: Open the Voice Over Utility and add the script to your favorite 
 commander. I chose lower case w from the keyboard commander so that I could 
 eventually add capital W for the full up forecast. Will post that script 
 after I write it.
 
 I have a request for those of you who may be familiar with Apple Scripting. 
 This script is not very elegant since I brute force converted it from an old 
 bash script. I am just getting started with Apple Scripting and if you see a 
 better way to do this please feel free to make any changes and post here.
 
 Thakns,
 
 Keith
 
 
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