Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Joseph hudson]

Oh that's great. I'm glad it's mostly working for you.

> On May 11, 2024, at 6:22 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> The triple side button click did in fact bring up VO. I wish the auto 
> transfer would have worked for me but it kept hanging up when it came to the 
> Siri setup screen. It was a long process, but seems to mostly be working.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...
>  
> Hi, I think VO has been able to be activated out of the box since about the 
> 4s. I just had to replace my 14 pro last weekend and was able to do the 
> entire setup on my own, including transfering of apps and data by selecting 
> the iCloud backup to restore from. 
>  
> The only issue I had was in getting Verizon to activate the new phone but 
> that was mostly because I didn't have access to the old phone when doing 
> that. As long as you still have the phone you're transfering from you should 
> be able to do it quite smoothly. 
>  
> Gabe 
>  
>  
>  
>> On May 11, 2024, at 11:54 AM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Joseph,
>>  
>> Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still 
>> allow me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data.
>>  
>> I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a 
>> brand spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was 
>> talking about.
>>  
>> Thanks again.
>>  
>> Eileen
>>  
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joseph hudson
>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PM
>> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...
>>  
>> Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn 
>> on voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. 
>> Because as long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to 
>> turn on voiceover when setting up the new phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>  
>>> I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.
>>>  
>>> I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn 
>>> voice over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and 
>>> transfer from my old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice 
>>> Over cannot be turned on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact 
>>> correct?
>>>  
>>> The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that 
>>> then would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use 
>>> the auto transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is 
>>> true then I did not want to risk losing any of my apps.
>>>  
>>> Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an 
>>> Apple store?
>>>  
>>> Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this 
>>> procedure.
>>>  
>>> Eileen
>>>  
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Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Brad Snyder]

Glad you got your new iPhone setup.
I’ve never been able to get the auto-transfer to work.

- Brad -



On May 11, 2024, at 18:25, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks Brad. Yes I did an Icloud backup. The phone had been on but VO did not 
just come up on its own. It did require the triple click.
 
Eileen
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...
 
It has been my experience that when turning on a anew iPhone for the first 
time, if you just let the phone sit a bit, VoiceOver will come on without you 
having to do anything.
If it doesn’t start speaking on its own, then press the side button 3 times 
quickly.
 
Additionally, before attempting to setup your new iPhone, be sure to perform an 
iCloud backup of your old device to make sure you have an up-to -date backup 
that you can access from the new device if you choose to setup from an iCloud 
backup.
 
HTH.

- Brad -


 
On May 11, 2024, at 13:39, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
 
Hello Everyone,
 
I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.
 
I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?
 
The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.
 
Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?
 
Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.
 
Eileen
 
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RE: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

Thanks Brad. Yes I did an Icloud backup. The phone had been on but VO did not 
just come up on its own. It did require the triple click.

 

Eileen

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

It has been my experience that when turning on a anew iPhone for the first 
time, if you just let the phone sit a bit, VoiceOver will come on without you 
having to do anything.

If it doesn’t start speaking on its own, then press the side button 3 times 
quickly.

 

Additionally, before attempting to setup your new iPhone, be sure to perform an 
iCloud backup of your old device to make sure you have an up-to -date backup 
that you can access from the new device if you choose to setup from an iCloud 
backup.

 

HTH.


- Brad -



 

On May 11, 2024, at 13:39, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.

 

I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?

 

The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.

 

Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?

 

Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.

 

Eileen

 

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RE: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

The triple side button click did in fact bring up VO. I wish the auto transfer 
would have worked for me but it kept hanging up when it came to the Siri setup 
screen. It was a long process, but seems to mostly be working.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

Hi, I think VO has been able to be activated out of the box since about the 4s. 
I just had to replace my 14 pro last weekend and was able to do the entire 
setup on my own, including transfering of apps and data by selecting the iCloud 
backup to restore from. 

 

The only issue I had was in getting Verizon to activate the new phone but that 
was mostly because I didn't have access to the old phone when doing that. As 
long as you still have the phone you're transfering from you should be able to 
do it quite smoothly. 

 

Gabe 

 

 

 

On May 11, 2024, at 11:54 AM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hi Joseph,

 

Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still allow 
me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data.

 

I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a brand 
spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was talking 
about.

 

Thanks again.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn on 
voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. Because as 
long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to turn on 
voiceover when setting up the new phone.






On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.

 

I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?

 

The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.

 

Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?

 

Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.

 

Eileen

 

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RE: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

Thank you, it did work, but I had to go through setup step by step. Now I just 
need to tweek the new phone and get used to the differences.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

Hi Eileen, whenever you turn on the phone, just do a straight triple click of 
the button on the side. That will turn on voiceover. Voice will speak the 
entire process straightforward for you to do the transfer. Sometimes it works, 
and sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't work during the transfer, make sure 
that you have an iCloud backup of all of your data, that way it will pull 
everything from the cloud.nd I think you need to punisher. Can you do that?

On May 11, 2024, at 1:54 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi Joseph,

 

Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still allow 
me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data.

 

I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a brand 
spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was talking 
about.

 

Thanks again.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn on 
voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. Because as 
long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to turn on 
voiceover when setting up the new phone.






On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.

 

I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?

 

The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.

 

Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?

 

Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.

 

Eileen

 

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Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Brad Snyder]

It has been my experience that when turning on a anew iPhone for the first 
time, if you just let the phone sit a bit, VoiceOver will come on without you 
having to do anything.
If it doesn’t start speaking on its own, then press the side button 3 times 
quickly.

Additionally, before attempting to setup your new iPhone, be sure to perform an 
iCloud backup of your old device to make sure you have an up-to -date backup 
that you can access from the new device if you choose to setup from an iCloud 
backup.

HTH.

- Brad -



On May 11, 2024, at 13:39, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone,
 
I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.
 
I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?
 
The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.
 
Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?
 
Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.
 
Eileen

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Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi, I think VO has been able to be activated out of the box since about the 4s. I just had to replace my 14 pro last weekend and was able to do the entire setup on my own, including transfering of apps and data by selecting the iCloud backup to restore from. The only issue I had was in getting Verizon to activate the new phone but that was mostly because I didn't have access to the old phone when doing that. As long as you still have the phone you're transfering from you should be able to do it quite smoothly. Gabe On May 11, 2024, at 11:54 AM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi Joseph, Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still allow me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data. I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a brand spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was talking about. Thanks again. Eileen From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph hudsonSent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PMTo: macvisionaries@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro... Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn on voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. Because as long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to turn on voiceover when setting up the new phone.On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hello Everyone, I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home. I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct? The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did not want to risk losing any of my apps. Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple store? Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure. Eileen -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/009d01daa3d2%248d962d20%24a8c28760%24%40verizon.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CH3PR05MB9556475197A72EE22EA91798CEE02%40CH3PR05MB9556.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Joseph hudson]

Hi Eileen, whenever you turn on the phone, just do a straight triple click of 
the button on the side. That will turn on voiceover. Voice will speak the 
entire process straightforward for you to do the transfer. Sometimes it works, 
and sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't work during the transfer, make sure 
that you have an iCloud backup of all of your data, that way it will pull 
everything from the cloud.nd I think you need to punisher. Can you do that?
> On May 11, 2024, at 1:54 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph,
>  
> Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still 
> allow me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data.
>  
> I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a 
> brand spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was 
> talking about.
>  
> Thanks again.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Joseph hudson
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...
>  
> Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn 
> on voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. 
> Because as long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to 
> turn on voiceover when setting up the new phone.
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Everyone,
>>  
>> I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.
>>  
>> I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
>> over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from 
>> my old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be 
>> turned on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?
>>  
>> The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that 
>> then would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use 
>> the auto transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is 
>> true then I did not want to risk losing any of my apps.
>>  
>> Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an 
>> Apple store?
>>  
>> Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this 
>> procedure.
>>  
>> Eileen
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RE: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

Hi Joseph,

 

Thanks. Just want to make sure will the triple click to turn on VO still allow 
me to do the auto transfer of apps  & data.

 

I did not call Apple Accessibility for this, but apple care since it’s a brand 
spanking new device. I did wonder if the tech rep knew what she was talking 
about.

 

Thanks again.

 

Eileen

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

 

Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn on 
voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. Because as 
long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to turn on 
voiceover when setting up the new phone.





On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.

 

I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from my 
old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be turned 
on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?

 

The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I did 
not want to risk losing any of my apps.

 

Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an Apple 
store?

 

Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.

 

Eileen

 

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Re: Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[Joseph hudson]

Hi Eileen, you should be able to triple click the button on the side to turn on 
voiceover. The representative you spoke with sounded very clueless. Because as 
long as I've been setting up our phones, there's not a step to turn on 
voiceover when setting up the new phone.

> On May 11, 2024, at 1:39 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.
>  
> I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice 
> over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from 
> my old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be 
> turned on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?
>  
> The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that then 
> would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use the auto 
> transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is true then I 
> did not want to risk losing any of my apps.
>  
> Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an 
> Apple store?
>  
> Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this procedure.
>  
> Eileen
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Question Re Setup Of New Iphone 15 Pro...

[etscrivani via MacVisionaries]

Hello Everyone,

 

I just got a new Iphone 15 pro, not in store, but shipped to my home.

 

I was somehow under the impression I could turn the phone on, and turn voice
over on. I called Apple help to assist in doing the setup and transfer from
my old Iphone 10 to the new phone and was told that Voice Over cannot be
turned on/enabled until the setup is done. Is that in fact correct?

 

The tech rep did say I could have gone through a step by step setup that
then would have allowed VO to get turned on, however then I could not use
the auto transfer of all my data and apps from the old phone. If that is
true then I did not want to risk losing any of my apps.

 

Is there any way I can get this process done without having to go into an
Apple store?

 

Thanks for any guidance and information on what is known about this
procedure.

 

Eileen

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Re: New iPhone 13, out of box procedures

[Phil Halton]

Thanks Brad that makes things a lot easier.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Yes, on a new iPhone on first start-up, triple pressing the side button will 
> start VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2022, at 13:53, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I just received a new iPhone 13 from my carrier (Verizon), and I am unsure of 
> how to proceed. I want to bring up voice over as soon as possible because I 
> understand that I will have to set up the phone number in the early stages 
> and I need voice over immediately. Is it the case that I just do a triple 
> click of the side button to bring up voiceover? Please tell me I don’t have 
> to go into settings accessibility voiceover etc.
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Re: New iPhone 13, out of box procedures

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, on a new iPhone on first start-up, triple pressing the side button will 
start VoiceOver.


- Brad -




On May 7, 2022, at 13:53, Phil Halton  wrote:

I just received a new iPhone 13 from my carrier (Verizon), and I am unsure of 
how to proceed. I want to bring up voice over as soon as possible because I 
understand that I will have to set up the phone number in the early stages and 
I need voice over immediately. Is it the case that I just do a triple click of 
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settings accessibility voiceover etc.

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New iPhone 13, out of box procedures

[Phil Halton]

I just received a new iPhone 13 from my carrier (Verizon), and I am unsure of 
how to proceed. I want to bring up voice over as soon as possible because I 
understand that I will have to set up the phone number in the early stages and 
I need voice over immediately. Is it the case that I just do a triple click of 
the side button to bring up voiceover? Please tell me I don’t have to go into 
settings accessibility voiceover etc.

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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Of course.
No hard feelings from me.
/A

> 16 mars 2022 kl. 00:03 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> Sorry about my rant. I lost my mother because of social distancing (long 
> story), and I guess it kind of triggered me. Forgive the outburst.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Yes, I agree.
>> Even though I am not that antisocial person.
>> But go for the 13 if you want. More battery and better sound.
>> Go for the mini if you want a smaller device.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 03:02 skrev Phil Halton :
>>> 
>>> Lainer sounds interesting but I don’t do social distancing. People don’t 
>>> wanna be near me I figure they can move. Actually, I think that social 
>>> distancing is a wet dream for the antisocial types. Just my opinion. And, I 
>>> get a big kick out of crowding them. I must be rotten person.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel 
 you don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better 
 camera on the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera 
 to judge distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision 
 impaired users. While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right 
 now, some of the features are very helpful. One of the useful features of 
 LIDAR is the ability to help you with social distancing. The feature is 
 built-in to the  Magnifier  app, and is is easily enabled from the home 
 screen or even the lock screen using a four finger triple tap.
 Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use 
 LIDAR, are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.
 
 - Brad -
 
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 
 13 and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it 
 seems mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third 
 generation and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price 
 is right. So, between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real 
 impacts would be. I’m used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to 
 the 13, but I’m wondering about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly 
 by moving to the mini other than form factor. I know that speaker fidelity 
 will take a hit and the battery life is a little less, but other than that 
 they seem to be about the same  product. Any thoughts? I’m about to pull 
 the trigger and this is what it’s come down to for final decisions. 
 
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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Phil Halton]

Sorry about my rant. I lost my mother because of social distancing (long 
story), and I guess it kind of triggered me. Forgive the outburst.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes, I agree.
> Even though I am not that antisocial person.
> But go for the 13 if you want. More battery and better sound.
> Go for the mini if you want a smaller device.
> /A
> 
>> 15 mars 2022 kl. 03:02 skrev Phil Halton :
>> 
>> Lainer sounds interesting but I don’t do social distancing. People don’t 
>> wanna be near me I figure they can move. Actually, I think that social 
>> distancing is a wet dream for the antisocial types. Just my opinion. And, I 
>> get a big kick out of crowding them. I must be rotten person.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 14, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel you 
>>> don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better 
>>> camera on the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera 
>>> to judge distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision 
>>> impaired users. While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right now, 
>>> some of the features are very helpful. One of the useful features of LIDAR 
>>> is the ability to help you with social distancing. The feature is built-in 
>>> to the  Magnifier  app, and is is easily enabled from the home screen or 
>>> even the lock screen using a four finger triple tap.
>>> Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use 
>>> LIDAR, are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 
>>> 13 and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it 
>>> seems mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third 
>>> generation and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price 
>>> is right. So, between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real 
>>> impacts would be. I’m used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to 
>>> the 13, but I’m wondering about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by 
>>> moving to the mini other than form factor. I know that speaker fidelity 
>>> will take a hit and the battery life is a little less, but other than that 
>>> they seem to be about the same  product. Any thoughts? I’m about to pull 
>>> the trigger and this is what it’s come down to for final decisions. 
>>> 
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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes, I agree.
Even though I am not that antisocial person.
But go for the 13 if you want. More battery and better sound.
Go for the mini if you want a smaller device.
/A

> 15 mars 2022 kl. 03:02 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> Lainer sounds interesting but I don’t do social distancing. People don’t 
> wanna be near me I figure they can move. Actually, I think that social 
> distancing is a wet dream for the antisocial types. Just my opinion. And, I 
> get a big kick out of crowding them. I must be rotten person.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel you 
>> don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better camera 
>> on the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera to judge 
>> distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision impaired users. 
>> While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right now, some of the 
>> features are very helpful. One of the useful features of LIDAR is the 
>> ability to help you with social distancing. The feature is built-in to the  
>> Magnifier  app, and is is easily enabled from the home screen or even the 
>> lock screen using a four finger triple tap.
>> Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use 
>> LIDAR, are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 
>> 13 and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it 
>> seems mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third 
>> generation and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price is 
>> right. So, between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real impacts 
>> would be. I’m used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to the 13, but 
>> I’m wondering about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by moving to 
>> the mini other than form factor. I know that speaker fidelity will take a 
>> hit and the battery life is a little less, but other than that they seem to 
>> be about the same  product. Any thoughts? I’m about to pull the trigger and 
>> this is what it’s come down to for final decisions. 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Phil Halton]

Lainer sounds interesting but I don’t do social distancing. People don’t wanna 
be near me I figure they can move. Actually, I think that social distancing is 
a wet dream for the antisocial types. Just my opinion. And, I get a big kick 
out of crowding them. I must be rotten person.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Mar 14, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel you 
> don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better camera 
> on the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera to judge 
> distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision impaired users. 
> While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right now, some of the 
> features are very helpful. One of the useful features of LIDAR is the ability 
> to help you with social distancing. The feature is built-in to the  Magnifier 
>  app, and is is easily enabled from the home screen or even the lock screen 
> using a four finger triple tap.
> Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use 
> LIDAR, are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 13 
> and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it seems 
> mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third generation 
> and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price is right. So, 
> between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real impacts would be. 
> I’m used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to the 13, but I’m 
> wondering about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by moving to the 
> mini other than form factor. I know that speaker fidelity will take a hit and 
> the battery life is a little less, but other than that they seem to be about 
> the same  product. Any thoughts? I’m about to pull the trigger and this is 
> what it’s come down to for final decisions. 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Brad Snyder]

Before you decide you're not interested in the 13 Pro because you feel you 
don't need the better camera, keep in mind that along with the better camera on 
the 13 Pro, comes  LIDAR, which is the ability to use the camera to judge 
distance. The feature can be very helpful for blind envision impaired users. 
While apps that use  LIDAR  are somewhat limited right now, some of the 
features are very helpful. One of the useful features of LIDAR is the ability 
to help you with social distancing. The feature is built-in to the  Magnifier  
app, and is is easily enabled from the home screen or even the lock screen 
using a four finger triple tap.
Two other apps I can think of off the top of my head that currently use LIDAR, 
are Microsoft Seeing AI, and SuperSense.

- Brad -

On Mar 14, 2022, at 15:01, Phil Halton  wrote:

Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 13 
and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it seems 
mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third generation 
and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price is right. So, 
between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real impacts would be. I’m 
used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to the 13, but I’m wondering 
about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by moving to the mini other than 
form factor. I know that speaker fidelity will take a hit and the battery life 
is a little less, but other than that they seem to be about the same  product. 
Any thoughts? I’m about to pull the trigger and this is what it’s come down to 
for final decisions. 

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I suggest checking whether the 13 Mini has Ultra-Wide-Band support. As Jonathan 
Mosen noted in a recent podcast, this is apparently needed to give the precise 
location of Apple air tags – and not all iPhone devices have it.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Phil Halton 
Date: Monday, 14March, 2022 at 18:01
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Narrowing down my new iPhone choices
Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 13 
and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it seems 
mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third generation 
and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price is right. So, 
between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real impacts would be. I’m 
used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to the 13, but I’m wondering 
about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by moving to the mini other than 
form factor. I know that speaker fidelity will take a hit and the battery life 
is a little less, but other than that they seem to be about the same  product. 
Any thoughts? I’m about to pull the trigger and this is what it’s come down to 
for final decisions.

Sent from my IPhone

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Narrowing down my new iPhone choices

[Phil Halton]

Upgrading from my iPhone XR, I’m narrowing things down between the iPhone 13 
and the 13 mini. I don’t need any of the features of the 13 Pro as it seems 
mostly camera enriched. And, I took a look at the iPhone SE third generation 
and it’s just too far of a step backward even though the price is right. So, 
between the 13 and a 13 minute I’m wondering what my real impacts would be. I’m 
used to the form factor of the 10 hour, similar to the 13, but I’m wondering 
about the 13 mini. What am I giving up exactly by moving to the mini other than 
form factor. I know that speaker fidelity will take a hit and the battery life 
is a little less, but other than that they seem to be about the same  product. 
Any thoughts? I’m about to pull the trigger and this is what it’s come down to 
for final decisions. 

Sent from my IPhone

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RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[M. Taylor]

That's great news, Brad.

Thank you for letting us know.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 7:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple 
online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone 
arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on 
for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the 
phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Brad Snyder]

There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple 
online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone 
arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on 
for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the 
phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[M. Taylor]

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

An e-SIM may be an option in some cases, too. If you travel internationally, 
obtaining a SIM card from a local carrier for the duration of your stay is 
often better than paying what can in some circumstances be very heavy roaming 
charges from your existing carrier.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Phil Halton 
Date: Thursday, 10March, 2022 at 14:15
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
So Brad,
I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer 
your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it 
you then have to activate it with the carrier?

Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even 
if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. 
Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, 
Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you 
bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… 
Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. 
Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me.

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Phil Halton]

So Brad,
I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer 
your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it 
you then have to activate it with the carrier?

Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even 
if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. 
Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, 
Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you 
bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… 
Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. 
Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me.

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Brad Snyder]

iPhones purchased directly from Apple via the website or the Apple store app, 
are always unlocked, and not tied to a certain carrier even though you may 
specify a carrier when ordering your new iPhone.
I have purchased my last several iPhones from Apple this way, and can confirm 
that the iPhone you receive is ready to go and not locked to my carrier.
As far as I'm concerned, this is the only way to purchase a new iPhone.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 10:46, Phil Halton  wrote:



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Phil Halton]

Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: How to set up new iPhone

[joseph hudson]

Yes the paper clip will do it. However, if you don't feel confident, you can 
get somebody that can see it to pop open the tray and pop your Sim card in. 

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Swapping out the Sim card is where it’s going to get hairy I think. Never 
> done that. I don’t have a Sim card tool or anything but I hear a paper clip 
> will do the trick. I just hate messing around with those little things. My 
> big sausage fingers don’t work too well with tiny little things.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil, I feel your pain. If you know which one you're gonna order, 
>> whether it is the SE or one of those other phones. Such as an 11 or a 13 to 
>> be exact. You will use either the home button or the power button on the 
>> side to turn on VoiceOver if it is one of the other ones besides the SE. 
>> Then you will wait till you hear slide to set up in English, then you can 
>> double tap and restore from your iCloud back up and connect to your Wi-Fi 
>> and all of that good stuff. It is a very easy process. But before doing all 
>> of that, I would install your old Sim card, from the old phone, that way you 
>> can simply just start using your carrier, once all of your apps and stuff 
>> has been restored. If I can be of any more assistance to you, please let me 
>> know. And I will gladly assist wherever I can. Oh and most importantly, make 
>> sure your old phone has a current back up.
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online 
>>> and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store 
>>> attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
>>> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be 
>>> keeping my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can 
>>> anyone walk me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going 
>>> through the set up process including turning on voiceover initially and 
>>> doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier 
>>> so if you can also tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier 
>>> and transfer my existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a 
>>> pain in the ass these pandemic How to set up new iPhone I can’t get to my 
>>> local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and having it 
>>> shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do all the 
>>> unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t be 
>>> able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and 
>>> that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the 
>>> steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process 
>>> including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As 
>>> I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how 
>>> I would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account 
>>> to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic 
>>> restrictions are. restrictions are.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: How to set up new iPhone

[joseph hudson]

The ones that shipping the US, do not come with the special tool. We have to 
provide our own paper clip in order to remove

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:30 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your new iPhone will come with the tool.  No paper clips needed.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 14:06, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Swapping out the Sim card is where it’s going to get hairy I think. Never 
>> done that. I don’t have a Sim card tool or anything but I hear a paper clip 
>> will do the trick. I just hate messing around with those little things. My 
>> big sausage fingers don’t work too well with tiny little things.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:20 PM, joseph hudson >> <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Phil, I feel your pain. If you know which one you're gonna order, 
>>> whether it is the SE or one of those other phones. Such as an 11 or a 13 to 
>>> be exact. You will use either the home button or the power button on the 
>>> side to turn on VoiceOver if it is one of the other ones besides the SE. 
>>> Then you will wait till you hear slide to set up in English, then you can 
>>> double tap and restore from your iCloud back up and connect to your Wi-Fi 
>>> and all of that good stuff. It is a very easy process. But before doing all 
>>> of that, I would install your old Sim card, from the old phone, that way 
>>> you can simply just start using your carrier, once all of your apps and 
>>> stuff has been restored. If I can be of any more assistance to you, please 
>>> let me know. And I will gladly assist wherever I can. Oh and most 
>>> importantly, make sure your old phone has a current back up.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Phil Halton >>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online 
>>>> and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store 
>>>> attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
>>>> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be 
>>>> keeping my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can 
>>>> anyone walk me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and 
>>>> going through the set up process including turning on voiceover initially 
>>>> and doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same 
>>>> carrier so if you can also tell me how I would activate the phone with my 
>>>> carrier and transfer my existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 
>>>> million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic How to set up new iPhone I 
>>>> can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and 
>>>> having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant 
>>>> do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I 
>>>> won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same 
>>>> carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me 
>>>> through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the 
>>>> set up process including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the 
>>>> set up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can 
>>>> also tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer 
>>>> my existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the 
>>>> ass these pandemic restrictions are. restrictions are.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: How to set up new iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Your new iPhone will come with the tool.  No paper clips needed.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 14:06, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Swapping out the Sim card is where it’s going to get hairy I think. Never 
> done that. I don’t have a Sim card tool or anything but I hear a paper clip 
> will do the trick. I just hate messing around with those little things. My 
> big sausage fingers don’t work too well with tiny little things.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil, I feel your pain. If you know which one you're gonna order, 
>> whether it is the SE or one of those other phones. Such as an 11 or a 13 to 
>> be exact. You will use either the home button or the power button on the 
>> side to turn on VoiceOver if it is one of the other ones besides the SE. 
>> Then you will wait till you hear slide to set up in English, then you can 
>> double tap and restore from your iCloud back up and connect to your Wi-Fi 
>> and all of that good stuff. It is a very easy process. But before doing all 
>> of that, I would install your old Sim card, from the old phone, that way you 
>> can simply just start using your carrier, once all of your apps and stuff 
>> has been restored. If I can be of any more assistance to you, please let me 
>> know. And I will gladly assist wherever I can. Oh and most importantly, make 
>> sure your old phone has a current back up.
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online 
>>> and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store 
>>> attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
>>> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be 
>>> keeping my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can 
>>> anyone walk me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going 
>>> through the set up process including turning on voiceover initially and 
>>> doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier 
>>> so if you can also tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier 
>>> and transfer my existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a 
>>> pain in the ass these pandemic How to set up new iPhone I can’t get to my 
>>> local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and having it 
>>> shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do all the 
>>> unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t be 
>>> able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and 
>>> that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the 
>>> steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process 
>>> including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As 
>>> I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how 
>>> I would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account 
>>> to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic 
>>> restrictions are. restrictions are.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
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Re: How to set up new iPhone

[Phil Halton]

Swapping out the Sim card is where it’s going to get hairy I think. Never done 
that. I don’t have a Sim card tool or anything but I hear a paper clip will do 
the trick. I just hate messing around with those little things. My big sausage 
fingers don’t work too well with tiny little things.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:20 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil, I feel your pain. If you know which one you're gonna order, whether 
> it is the SE or one of those other phones. Such as an 11 or a 13 to be exact. 
> You will use either the home button or the power button on the side to turn 
> on VoiceOver if it is one of the other ones besides the SE. Then you will 
> wait till you hear slide to set up in English, then you can double tap and 
> restore from your iCloud back up and connect to your Wi-Fi and all of that 
> good stuff. It is a very easy process. But before doing all of that, I would 
> install your old Sim card, from the old phone, that way you can simply just 
> start using your carrier, once all of your apps and stuff has been restored. 
> If I can be of any more assistance to you, please let me know. And I will 
> gladly assist wherever I can. Oh and most importantly, make sure your old 
> phone has a current back up.
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and 
>> having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do 
>> all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t 
>> be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and 
>> that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the 
>> steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process 
>> including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As I 
>> said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how I 
>> would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account to 
>> the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic How 
>> to set up new iPhone I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking 
>> of buying online and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had 
>> the store attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
>> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be 
>> keeping my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can 
>> anyone walk me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going 
>> through the set up process including turning on voiceover initially and 
>> doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so 
>> if you can also tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier and 
>> transfer my existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain 
>> in the ass these pandemic restrictions are. restrictions are.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: How to set up new iPhone

[joseph hudson]

Hi Phil, I feel your pain. If you know which one you're gonna order, whether it 
is the SE or one of those other phones. Such as an 11 or a 13 to be exact. You 
will use either the home button or the power button on the side to turn on 
VoiceOver if it is one of the other ones besides the SE. Then you will wait 
till you hear slide to set up in English, then you can double tap and restore 
from your iCloud back up and connect to your Wi-Fi and all of that good stuff. 
It is a very easy process. But before doing all of that, I would install your 
old Sim card, from the old phone, that way you can simply just start using your 
carrier, once all of your apps and stuff has been restored. If I can be of any 
more assistance to you, please let me know. And I will gladly assist wherever I 
can. Oh and most importantly, make sure your old phone has a current back up.

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and 
> having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do 
> all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t 
> be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and 
> that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the steps 
> of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process 
> including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As I 
> said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how I 
> would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account to 
> the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic How to 
> set up new iPhone I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of 
> buying online and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the 
> store attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping 
> my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk 
> me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the 
> set up process including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set 
> up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also 
> tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my 
> existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass 
> these pandemic restrictions are. restrictions are.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: How to set up new iPhone

[Pete De Vasto]

There are a number of web pages and YouTube videos that talk about doing this. 
You could do a Google search for something like “set up new iPhone using 
VoiceOver” without the quotes to find these pages. Below I share the link from 
Apple Support that talks about this as well:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210433 
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210433>

Hope this helps,
Pete De Vasto

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and 
> having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do 
> all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t 
> be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and 
> that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the steps 
> of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process 
> including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As I 
> said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how I 
> would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account to 
> the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic How to 
> set up new iPhone I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of 
> buying online and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the 
> store attendant do all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little 
> concerned that I won’t be able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping 
> my same carrier and that might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk 
> me through the steps of getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the 
> set up process including turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set 
> up work? As I said I’ll still be using the same carrier so if you can also 
> tell me how I would activate the phone with my carrier and transfer my 
> existing account to the new phone. Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass 
> these pandemic restrictions are. restrictions are.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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How to set up new iPhone

[Phil Halton]

I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online and 
having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do all 
the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t be 
able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and that 
might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the steps of 
getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process including 
turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll 
still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how I would activate 
the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account to the new phone. 
Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic How to set up new 
iPhone I can’t get to my local Apple store and so I’m thinking of buying online 
and having it shipped to me. Problem is, I’ve always had the store attendant do 
all the unboxing and set up work for me. I’m a little concerned that I won’t be 
able to do it too easily by myself. I’ll be keeping my same carrier and that 
might make activation a bit easier. Can anyone walk me through the steps of 
getting an iPhone in the mail and going through the set up process including 
turning on voiceover initially and doing all the set up work? As I said I’ll 
still be using the same carrier so if you can also tell me how I would activate 
the phone with my carrier and transfer my existing account to the new phone. 
Thanks 1 million. What a pain in the ass these pandemic restrictions are. 
restrictions are.


Sent from my IPhone

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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Hi Lori, a hotspot, is your cell phone is acting as an Internet connection for 
a secondary device to connect it. So safe for instants, you took your Mac 
computer. And you connected to the net with it. Since your phone and your Mac 
are linked to the same Apple ID, your computer will automatically see your 
personal hotspot, and ask you if you wanna connect. You will simply tell it 
yes. By doing your quick navigation keys. Then whenever you want to open up 
Safari or your mail, you will be able to surf the web just like you normally 
would at home except your hotspot connection from your phone is being your 
data. I hope this makes sense. And probably since Illinois is not listed as 
being a covert spot, you may or may not have signal.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
>> 
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Brad Snyder]

Cellular  carriers work the same way in the US as in the frozen tundra of 
Canada.
A cell phone using the spectrum network should work anywhere within the 50 
states.

- Brad -

On Jan 25, 2022, at 18:51, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

I’m not sure exactly how your carriers work in the States, but up here in the 
frozen north, sometimes our carriers have agreements with other carriers in 
order to get full coverage.  The list of cities there may simply be the ones 
that have cable TV, and wireless coverage is more robust.  Your best bet is to 
give Spectrum a quick call and let them know that you’re going to Illinois and 
confirming what kind of coverage there is for you.

Regarding HotSpots.  My understanding of HotSpots is not for cell phone calls, 
but more for using your cellular data connection as a WiFi HotSpot so that you 
can use the Internet etc.  I guess that you could do that sort of thing to make 
a FaceTime call as well.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 16:41, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  
> wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m not sure exactly how your carriers work in the States, but up here in the 
frozen north, sometimes our carriers have agreements with other carriers in 
order to get full coverage.  The list of cities there may simply be the ones 
that have cable TV, and wireless coverage is more robust.  Your best bet is to 
give Spectrum a quick call and let them know that you’re going to Illinois and 
confirming what kind of coverage there is for you.

Regarding HotSpots.  My understanding of HotSpots is not for cell phone calls, 
but more for using your cellular data connection as a WiFi HotSpot so that you 
can use the Internet etc.  I guess that you could do that sort of thing to make 
a FaceTime call as well.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 16:41, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
>> 
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
central and southern Il.

how does hotspot work?

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
> 
> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
> 
> 
> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
>>> spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
>>> winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
>>> lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
>>> to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
>>> coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
 was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
 mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I 
> saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
> afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
>>> as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
>>> new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
 at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without 
 taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect to 
a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to

https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 


Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
>> spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
>> winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
>> lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
>> to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
>> coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
>>> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother 
>>> who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
 might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
 power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
 in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
 Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with spectrum, 
> and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good winning if you 
> go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she lives. But everywhere 
> I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up to Waco I've been over 
> by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great coverage that wins. So I 
> don't think you still have any issues.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
>> also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
>> doesn't have internet believe it or not.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
 month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

No problem, glad I could help.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks!
> I'll try that.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
> credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
> personally. But she has.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't know you could do that.
>> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
>> experience downtime.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>>> battery.
>>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell 
>>>> I guess that's why I was lucky.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>>>>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I 
>>>>> saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
>>>>>>> as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
>>>>>>> new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>>> 
&

RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks!
I'll try that.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
personally. But she has.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know you could do that.
> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
> experience downtime.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>> battery.
>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
personally. But she has.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know you could do that.
> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
> experience downtime.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>> battery.
>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>>> 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

I didn't know you could do that.
Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you experience 
downtime.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>> battery.
>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
&g

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you experience 
downtime.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>> battery.
>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
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>>

RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Okay,
But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
> battery.
> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
> went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
> guess that's why I was lucky.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
>>>>> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>> 
>>>

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
> battery.
> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
> went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
> guess that's why I was lucky.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
>>>>> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with spectrum, 
and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good winning if you go 
to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she lives. But everywhere I've 
been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up to Waco I've been over by 
brenham almost out of Houston and have had great coverage that wins. So I don't 
think you still have any issues.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
> also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
> doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
 taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
 And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
 pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
 one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
 get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
doesn't have internet believe it or not.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
 Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
 the store? if so, how do I do it?
 
 thanks.
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
battery.
The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
guess that's why I was lucky.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
guess that's why I was lucky.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at best 
and land lines are actually better after a power outage.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power outages 
due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in Texas. But I'm 
hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore electric out 
working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power outages 
due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in Texas. But I'm 
hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore electric out 
working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Pretty well everything from settings is transferred over.  Even some of your 
various sign-ins should transfer.

Later…


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 14:56, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> that did it.
> 
> how much of the stuff from settings gets installed when I backup from iCloud? 
> I know I'm going to have to sign into all of my apps but I mean things like 
> what's in the rotor and how I have autolock set etc.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Press the home button three times quickly.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
>> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
>> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>>> Sim card in the mail.
>>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck 
>>> paying for two lines.
>>> See this link.
>>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
>>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

that did it.

how much of the stuff from settings gets installed when I backup from iCloud? I 
know I'm going to have to sign into all of my apps but I mean things like 
what's in the rotor and how I have autolock set etc.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Press the home button three times quickly.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>> Sim card in the mail.
>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
>> for two lines.
>> See this link.
>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a month. 
I don't need 2 lines anyway.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Well if you were ever wanting to try your hand at android, well keeping your 
feet in iOS it's definitely affordable option you're welcome.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> I don't know four people right now who could benefit, but I think adding a 
> second line wouldn't be so bad. If needed in the future.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
> had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional 
> line.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
>> information.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
>> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
>> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
>> personal iPhone.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks.
I don't know four people right now who could benefit, but I think adding a 
second line wouldn't be so bad. If needed in the future.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional line.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
> information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
> personal iPhone.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional line.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
> information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
> personal iPhone.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks.
It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
information.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my work 
cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my personal 
iPhone.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
> I thought about exploring android in the future.
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my work 
cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my personal 
iPhone.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
> I thought about exploring android in the future.
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
I thought about exploring android in the future.
Thanks. 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
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Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as taking 
your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. And by the 
way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay for two 
lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one line plan, 
is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get two lines for 
60 bucks.

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Tap the home button three times. That will bring up voiceover. Siri will not be 
activated until you have the phone set up on a Wi-Fi network.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>> Sim card in the mail.
>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
>> for two lines.
>> See this link.
>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

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Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as taking 
your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. And by the 
way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay for two 
lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one line plan, 
is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get two lines for 
60 bucks.

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Press the home button three times quickly.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the home 
button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not working 
right now. is there another way to turn on vo?

> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
> Sim card in the mail.
> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
> for two lines.
> See this link.
> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: new iPhone se
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the home 
button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not working 
right now. is there another way to turn on vo?

> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
> Sim card in the mail.
> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
> for two lines.
> See this link.
> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: new iPhone se
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a Sim 
card in the mail.
be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
for two lines.
See this link.
https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: new iPhone se

I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to the 
store? if so, how do I do it?

thanks.
Lorie

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new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to the 
store? if so, how do I do it?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: new iPhone

[Herbie Allen]

I agree, I can do an iPhone transfer no problem, but I have never had luck with 
the watch.

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 15:50, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> I could never do it with the Apple Watch.  I’ll try again the next time I get 
> a new watch.  It always works with an I phone.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 14 Nov 2021, at 20:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> 
>> When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do 
>> the following:
>> 
>> • Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or 
>> counter.
>> • Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
>> • Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
>> iPhone or Apple Watch.
>> • Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone 
>> or Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
>> • Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
>> something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
>> • If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, 
>> then repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the 
>> device on the flat surface.
>> 
>> This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
>> raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
>> Thursday.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>>>  >> > wrote:
 Hi all:
 
 Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
 would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
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new iphone 13 pro max issues

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Well. Only I would come up with this one.

I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration
got hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset
phone back to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to
transfer data from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on
either device. 6 AT tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no
phone at all. Ugg. 

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Re: new iPhone

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I could never do it with the Apple Watch.  I’ll try again the next time I get a 
new watch.  It always works with an I phone.

Kawal.

> On 14 Nov 2021, at 20:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do the 
> following:
> 
> • Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or 
> counter.
> • Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
> • Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
> iPhone or Apple Watch.
> • Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone or 
> Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
> • Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
> something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
> • If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, 
> then repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the 
> device on the flat surface.
> 
> This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
> raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
> Thursday.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>>  > > wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
>>> 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
>>> would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
>>> 13 pro max.
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Re: new iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do the 
following:

• Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or counter.
• Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
• Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
iPhone or Apple Watch.
• Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone or 
Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
• Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
• If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, then 
repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the device 
on the flat surface.

This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
Thursday.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
> 
> 
> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
>> 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
>> would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
>> 13 pro max.
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Re: new iPhone

[Yolanda Thompson]

You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.


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Re: new iPhone

[Cameron Strife]

Yeah, for future reference, initiating pairing manually via the pass
code is much easier.



On 11/14/21, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
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> On 14/11/21 10:52, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data
>> from my 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing
>> circles. Wish VO would give haptick feedback when you are lining them
>> up. So far, I like the 13 pro max.
>>
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> You can enter a passcode instead, as I recall, to initiate a transfer.
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RE: new iPhone

[sarai.bucciarelli]

You have to line up the circle after doing the passcode.

 

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<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my 
8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO would 
give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the 13 pro 
max.


You can enter a passcode instead, as I recall, to initiate a transfer.

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Re: new iPhone

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 14/11/21 10:52, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data 
from my 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing 
circles. Wish VO would give haptick feedback when you are lining them 
up. So far, I like the 13 pro max.




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new iPhone

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi all:

Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
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Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

[Jonathan Cohn]

> I saw an article that seemd to think the IOS bast batter drain / slow 
> perforance issues were being caused by a bad network setting. I believe the 
> solution was to go to General settings and do a reset network commnad. If 
> that doesn’t work, you can try a reset all settings, though that could lose 
> some important data.
Jonathan

>  On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:22 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I am using IOS13.6. Updated in the hope it would sort it, but it hasn’t yet. 
> 
> Eleanor
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Jul 2020, at 22:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> What ios version are yu using?
>> THe 13.6 version seems to have sorted such draining because i have had the 
>> same issue with my XR and  i updated to 13.6 and things got a lot better.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 29 juli 2020 kl. 23:05 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all 
>>> 
>>> Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of 
>>> months I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new 
>>> IPhone SE2020, and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I 
>>> might not be so bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand 
>>> the new SE doing/being the same. What has particularly surprised me is how 
>>> high my home and locked screen use appears to be. Have never had this 
>>> problem before. Have checked all the settings that are suggested on the 
>>> internet to prolong battery life, and they all appear to be as they should 
>>> be. 
>>> 
>>> So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
>>> battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and locked 
>>> screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it is at 
>>> the moment I’d be really really grateful!! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Do you turn off your phone now and then?
Otherwise a restore might help also even though that’s a pain to fiddle around 
with.
/A

> 30 juli 2020 kl. 00:22 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I am using IOS13.6. Updated in the hope it would sort it, but it hasn’t yet. 
> 
> Eleanor
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Jul 2020, at 22:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> What ios version are yu using?
>> THe 13.6 version seems to have sorted such draining because i have had the 
>> same issue with my XR and  i updated to 13.6 and things got a lot better.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 29 juli 2020 kl. 23:05 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all 
>>> 
>>> Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of 
>>> months I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new 
>>> IPhone SE2020, and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I 
>>> might not be so bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand 
>>> the new SE doing/being the same. What has particularly surprised me is how 
>>> high my home and locked screen use appears to be. Have never had this 
>>> problem before. Have checked all the settings that are suggested on the 
>>> internet to prolong battery life, and they all appear to be as they should 
>>> be. 
>>> 
>>> So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
>>> battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and locked 
>>> screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it is at 
>>> the moment I’d be really really grateful!! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

[Loy Green]

I go into settings, general, background refresh and turn off background 
refresh for all my apps and this has greatly decreased my battery drain.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries" 


To: 
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Subject: Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and 
battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please



Hi.

I am using IOS13.6. Updated in the hope it would sort it, but it hasn’t yet.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Jul 2020, at 22:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
What ios version are yu using?
THe 13.6 version seems to have sorted such draining because i have had the 
same issue with my XR and  i updated to 13.6 and things got a lot better.

/A

29 juli 2020 kl. 23:05 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
:


Hi all

Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of 
months I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new 
IPhone SE2020, and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I 
might not be so bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand 
the new SE doing/being the same. What has particularly surprised me is 
how high my home and locked screen use appears to be. Have never had this 
problem before. Have checked all the settings that are suggested on the 
internet to prolong battery life, and they all appear to be as they 
should be.


So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and 
locked screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it 
is at the moment I’d be really really grateful!!


Thanks in advance.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

['Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries]

Hi. 

I am using IOS13.6. Updated in the hope it would sort it, but it hasn’t yet. 

Eleanor

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Jul 2020, at 22:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> What ios version are yu using?
> THe 13.6 version seems to have sorted such draining because i have had the 
> same issue with my XR and  i updated to 13.6 and things got a lot better.
> /A
> 
>> 29 juli 2020 kl. 23:05 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of 
>> months I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new 
>> IPhone SE2020, and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I 
>> might not be so bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand the 
>> new SE doing/being the same. What has particularly surprised me is how high 
>> my home and locked screen use appears to be. Have never had this problem 
>> before. Have checked all the settings that are suggested on the internet to 
>> prolong battery life, and they all appear to be as they should be. 
>> 
>> So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
>> battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and locked 
>> screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it is at the 
>> moment I’d be really really grateful!! 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What ios version are yu using?
THe 13.6 version seems to have sorted such draining because i have had the same 
issue with my XR and  i updated to 13.6 and things got a lot better.
/A

> 29 juli 2020 kl. 23:05 skrev 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of 
> months I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new IPhone 
> SE2020, and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I might not 
> be so bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand the new SE 
> doing/being the same. What has particularly surprised me is how high my home 
> and locked screen use appears to be. Have never had this problem before. Have 
> checked all the settings that are suggested on the internet to prolong 
> battery life, and they all appear to be as they should be. 
> 
> So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
> battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and locked 
> screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it is at the 
> moment I’d be really really grateful!! 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Query re ridiculously high home and locked screen usage and battery drain on new IPhone SE2020 - help appreciated please

['Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all 

Hoping someone may be able to assist with this. Over the last couple of months 
I’ve been noticing unusually fast battery drain, both on my new IPhone SE2020, 
and also on my old IPhone 8. If it was just the IPhone 8 I might not be so 
bothered as it’s an older device, but I can’t understand the new SE doing/being 
the same. What has particularly surprised me is how high my home and locked 
screen use appears to be. Have never had this problem before. Have checked all 
the settings that are suggested on the internet to prolong battery life, and 
they all appear to be as they should be. 

So if anyone has any ideas as to how I can increase the amount of time my 
battery lasts, and, particularly, how I can get this stupid home and locked 
screen usage value reduced from the stupidly high value it says it is at the 
moment I’d be really really grateful!! 

Thanks in advance. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Might be something to check out for me.
My 1 year old iPhone XR begins to drain a lot of battery.
Not sure what’s going on but when my 2 year payment of this is done i might 
look at the SE2.
Not happy Iphone or Ipad mini user right now.
/A

> 2 maj 2020 kl. 22:04 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might want to check 
> the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with their lease plans after 
> a year. 
> Take Care!
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market for 
> a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it. 
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to 
>> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is 
>> not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much 
>> better battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% 
>> speech rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value 
>> for anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which 
>> was just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G 
>> technology.
>> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
>>> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
>>> instead of facial recognition?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Robin]

Yes, Apple's NEW && Recently Released  SE, iPhoneSE, Does indeed have 
a  HomeButton, &  it's JustLike the HomeButton  on Apple's recently 
Retired iPhone8.

EquippedWith Apple's TouchID & No Apple FaceID

Blessin's to All on ThisThread
At 01:12 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote:
wow! I didn't know that. the SE is cheaper than the 8. I have owned 
my 8 for more than a year. does the SE have a home button?


On May 2, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:


If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might 
want to check the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with 
their lease plans after a year.

Take Care!
Jonathan Cohn

On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud 
<lorice...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the 
market for a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it.


On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:


It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators 
compare it to the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the 
back, so the bump is not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print 
sensor. However, it has much better battery life than my 2 year 
old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% speech rate is smoother. 
In general I like it and think it is a good value for anybody that 
doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which was just 
standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G technology.

If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
Jonathan



On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud 
<lorice...@gmail.com> wrote:


is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular 
size? my other question about it is, does it have the option of 
using fingerprint instead of facial recognition?


thanks.
Lorie

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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

wow! I didn't know that. the SE is cheaper than the 8. I have owned my 8 for 
more than a year. does the SE have a home button?

> On May 2, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might want to check 
> the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with their lease plans after 
> a year. 
> Take Care!
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market for 
> a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it. 
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to 
>> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is 
>> not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much 
>> better battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% 
>> speech rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value 
>> for anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which 
>> was just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G 
>> technology.
>> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
>>> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
>>> instead of facial recognition?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might want to
check the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with their lease
plans after a year.
Take Care!
Jonathan Cohn

On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

> I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market
> for a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it.
>
> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to
> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is
> not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much
> better battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at
> 80% speech rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good
> value for anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6
> which was just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G
> technology.
> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>
> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my
> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint
> instead of facial recognition?
>
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market for a 
new phone though, I'd be really interested in it. 

> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to 
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> battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% speech 
> rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value for 
> anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which was 
> just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G technology.
> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
> Jonathan
> 
> 
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>> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
>> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
>> instead of facial recognition?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Jonathan Cohn]

It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to the 
iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is not as 
noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much better 
battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% speech 
rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value for anybody 
that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which was just 
standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G technology.
If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
Jonathan



> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
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> thanks.
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the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
instead of facial recognition?

thanks.
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Re: New iPhone SE, Magic Keyboard Orders Begin, Mini-LED iPad Pro in 2021?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I want an I phone with Touch ID and Face ID in it all at once thank you very 
much!  Wonder if that will happen??

> On 17 Apr 2020, at 11:49, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> HI Listers,
>  
> I thought some might like to read these new rumours,
> To: Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>
> Subject: New iPhone SE, Magic Keyboard Orders Begin, Mini-LED iPad Pro in 
> 2021?
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>  The device looks similar to the iPhone 8, with a 4.7-inch display and a 
> Touch ID home button, but it has the latest A13 Bionic chip like iPhone 11 
> models.
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> Other key features include a 12MP Wide rear camera, up to 256GB of storage, 
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> 
> Following the introduction of the new iPhone SE, Apple has stopped selling 
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Re: the new iPhone 11 pro

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can use it for 5 days before its 50% but i don’t use it much and have turned 
on all kinds of power save settings.
/A

> 21 sep. 2019 kl. 04:23 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> I think the battery performance will improve over time. I just got a 10 are 
> and that’s been my experience. The first few days it wasn’t so great and then 
> it’s improving as it gets to know the routine and what apps are being used 
> more often than not. Anyway that’s my guess. I really like the tenor and the 
> battery life is a real improvement.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
>> So I’ve got my pro max,
>>  
>> Getting use to the size is interesting after using an x for 2 years
>>  
>> The camera takes up approx1 inch square,
>>  
>> But the  camera is actually three circles in a shape similar to that of a 
>> shamrock on it’s side,
>>  
>> 2 circles 1 above the other on the left and 1 in the middle of the other 2 
>> on the right,
>>  
>> They’ve come out with IOS 13 on them by default and seem to chew through the 
>> battery when you set them up, mines gone from 100% to 48% within 5 hours,
>>  
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Re: the new iPhone 11 pro

[Phil Halton]

I think the battery performance will improve over time. I just got a 10 are and 
that’s been my experience. The first few days it wasn’t so great and then it’s 
improving as it gets to know the routine and what apps are being used more 
often than not. Anyway that’s my guess. I really like the tenor and the battery 
life is a real improvement.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:51 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So I’ve got my pro max,
>  
> Getting use to the size is interesting after using an x for 2 years
>  
> The camera takes up approx1 inch square,
>  
> But the  camera is actually three circles in a shape similar to that of a 
> shamrock on it’s side,
>  
> 2 circles 1 above the other on the left and 1 in the middle of the other 2 on 
> the right,
>  
> They’ve come out with IOS 13 on them by default and seem to chew through the 
> battery when you set them up, mines gone from 100% to 48% within 5 hours,
>  
> And hey siri for me needed a bit of work as she didn’t pick up on 3 of the 5 
> setup comments.
>  
> Otherwise bloody quick and solid enough to use  as a wedge.
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the new iPhone 11 pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

So I've got my pro max,

Getting use to the size is interesting after using an x for 2 years

The camera takes up approx1 inch square,

But the  camera is actually three circles in a shape similar to that of a 
shamrock on it's side,

2 circles 1 above the other on the left and 1 in the middle of the other 2 on 
the right,

They've come out with IOS 13 on them by default and seem to chew through the 
battery when you set them up, mines gone from 100% to 48% within 5 hours,

And hey siri for me needed a bit of work as she didn't pick up on 3 of the 5 
setup comments.

Otherwise bloody quick and solid enough to use  as a wedge.

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Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Yes, that works. I just like to always plug a new device in so it starts 
charging and you get the chime telling you that it is charging and on as voice 
over isn’t activated yet. Once voice over is on then at least voice over gives 
some indication that the device is on each time you power it up.
I did that with my Mac as well as I didn’t know where the power button was on 
it when I took it out of the box, and I like the feature on the Mac where 
voiceover starts up after a set amount of time if the computer is inactive. I 
think that would be good on the iPhones as well.  

> On 19/09/2019, at 7:01 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> SPeaking of Power sound i use to press the button and hold for 4 seconds and 
> then i release the button.
> This use to start the phone.
> /A
> 
>> 18 sep. 2019 kl. 00:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > >:
>> 
>> Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do with the 
>> home button once the phone is powered on. The side button is the same as the 
>> power button. And I always like to plug the phone in to turn it on as it 
>> will make that apple chime as they all do when you plug them in, as there is 
>> no power up sound.
>> 
>>> On 18/09/2019, at 10:45 AM, Loy Green >> > wrote:
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Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
SPeaking of Power sound i use to press the button and hold for 4 seconds and 
then i release the button.
This use to start the phone.
/A

> 18 sep. 2019 kl. 00:48 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
> 
> Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do with the home 
> button once the phone is powered on. The side button is the same as the power 
> button. And I always like to plug the phone in to turn it on as it will make 
> that apple chime as they all do when you plug them in, as there is no power 
> up sound.
> 
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RE: enableing voice over on new IPhone

[Karen Lewellen]

Might be enough if it is spoken.
thanks!


On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Simon A Fogarty wrote:


Not really a tutorial but under settings, accessibility there is a gesture 
training option within the Voiceover settings,

But that is about it.

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Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 1:21 PM
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I don???t think there is, not sure why as it is a good idea. I???d like to be 
proven wrong if someone else knows of such a function.


On 18/09/2019, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen 
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:

That reminds me.
Is there a voiceover tutorial on the IPhone like there is on the mac?  a 
getting  started that walks you through basic  steps?



On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:


Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do with the home 
button once the phone is powered on. The side button is the same as the power 
button. And I always like to plug the phone in to turn it on as it will make 
that apple chime as they all do when you plug them in, as there is no power up 
sound.


On 18/09/2019, at 10:45 AM, Loy Green 
mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Getting a newer IPhone xs. Can I enable voice over without sighted help?

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RE: enableing voice over on new IPhone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes mum,



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And add it to your contacts. Or else.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 6:44 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Okay, this will sound like a silly question. But what’s the email 
> address one can send feedback too?
> 
>> On 18/09/2019, at 1:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Petrus,
>>   Send Apple feedback on this. I may have to do it again.
>>
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>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 9/17/2019 6:21 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> I don’t think there is, not sure why as it is a good idea. I’d like 
>>> to be proven wrong if someone else knows of such a function.
>>>> On 18/09/2019, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That reminds me.
>>>> Is there a voiceover tutorial on the IPhone like there is on the 
>>>> mac?  a getting  started that walks you through basic  steps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do 
>>>>> with the home button once the phone is powered on. The side button 
>>>>> is the same as the power button. And I always like to plug the 
>>>>> phone in to turn it on as it will make that apple chime as they 
>>>>> all do when you plug them in, as there is no power up sound.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/09/2019, at 10:45 AM, Loy Green >>>>> <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com> <mailto:loyrg2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting a newer IPhone xs. Can I enable voice over without 
>>>>>> sighted help?
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