Re: [MlMt] New icons: pick?

2016-09-20 Thread Bill Cole

On 20 Sep 2016, at 16:25, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Sep 2016, at 18:49, Paul Hoffman wrote:

(And, yes, I really wish I could get that last account working in 
MailMate, but that's between me and my IT department...)


If it's an IMAP account then I can attempt to work around whatever the 
issue is. I already do this for hundreds of other IMAP server issues.


Every time I've encountered someone who needed to keep using Mail.app 
for "one account at work" where they grumble about the company IT 
department, the explanation is an Exchange server with IMAP disabled, 
intentionally. This is an actual thing people do...


On the bright side, in-house Exchange is dying out and I've never 
stumbled across any way to disable IMAP in the Office365 "Exchange" 
admin interface.

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Re: [MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Sep 2016, at 21:51, Tim wrote:

(I sent a reply a couple of hours ago, but that mail hangs in 
moderation, because there were too many pictures in it, so here is 
just one smaller sized example picture, which shows that the 
“real” link url does not show up - it’s something like: 
http://email.louisck.com/t/y-l-foofoo - when i move the mouse cursor 
over it)


This must be some kind of bug.

I guess i re-install MailMate, maybe the problem is getting fixed by 
that. Or can I delete some preferences in ~/Library (or somewhere 
else) to get the original state?


I don't think that'll make a difference and in any case I'd like to 
figure out what triggers it. I'll contact you off list for debugging.


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Re: [MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Sep 2016, at 16:12, Robert Brenstein wrote:


On 20.09.2016 at 15:58 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:

I haven't disabled or removed this. Are you sure it doesn't work? 
Note that it's not shown if the displayed text for the link is 
identical to the actual link.


I vote for having it displayed always. Besides consistency, seeing 
that it is the same confirms that nothing sinister is hidden 
underneath.


I had already noted that I should probably change it although my 
motivation was a bit different. I considered it a security issue, 
because clever use of HTML/CSS might hide a link in a way which would 
make MailMate mis-interpret the link displayed.


I've changed it in the latest test release (1.9.5r5268).

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Re: [MlMt] New icons: pick?

2016-09-20 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Sep 2016, at 18:49, Paul Hoffman wrote:

(And, yes, I really wish I could get that last account working in 
MailMate, but that's between me and my IT department...)


If it's an IMAP account then I can attempt to work around whatever the 
issue is. I already do this for hundreds of other IMAP server issues.



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Re: [MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Tim

On 20 Sep 2016, at 15:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Sep 2016, at 13:26, Tim wrote:

The previous version of MailMate had a function, where you could see 
the real url of a link in an email message when you hovered over it 
with the mouse, the url was displayed in the lower left corner, this 
seems to be gone now. Can i turn it on again somehow?


I haven't disabled or removed this. Are you sure it doesn't work? Note 
that it's not shown if the displayed text for the link is identical to 
the actual link.


(I sent a reply a couple of hours ago, but that mail hangs in 
moderation, because there were too many pictures in it, so here is just 
one smaller sized example picture, which shows that the “real” link 
url does not show up - it’s something like: 
http://email.louisck.com/t/y-l-foofoo - when i move the mouse cursor 
over it)


I guess i re-install MailMate, maybe the problem is getting fixed by 
that. Or can I delete some preferences in ~/Library (or somewhere else) 
to get the original state?


-Tim

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Re: [MlMt] Icloud password

2016-09-20 Thread Barton Lipman
At last something I know the answer to:  You need to create an 
app-specific password.  See

 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204397



On 20 Sep 2016, at 13:35, Olivier Bedouelle wrote:


Hi,

I have an account with ICLOUD two step verification.

Since I set up I can not raise my emails with MailMate.

Do you know how I do?

Cordially

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[MlMt] Icloud password

2016-09-20 Thread Olivier Bedouelle
Hi,

I have an account with ICLOUD two step verification.

Since I set up I can not raise my emails with MailMate.

Do you know how I do?

Cordially

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*gérant*
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Re: [MlMt] New icons: pick?

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Hoffman

On 19 Sep 2016, at 4:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

No, there is no such option and I'm not going to include two 
application icons with MailMate.


Noted. If in the future you are thinking of redesigning the icon again, 
making it *less* like Mail.app would be grand for those of us who have 
to run both for different accounts. (And, yes, I really wish I could get 
that last account working in MailMate, but that's between me and my IT 
department...)


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Re: [MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 20.09.2016 at 15:58 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently wrote:

On 20 Sep 2016, at 13:26, Tim wrote:

The previous version of MailMate had a 
function, where you could see the real url of a 
link in an email message when you hovered over 
it with the mouse, the url was displayed in the 
lower left corner, this seems to be gone now. 
Can i turn it on again somehow?


I haven't disabled or removed this. Are you sure 
it doesn't work? Note that it's not shown if the 
displayed text for the link is identical to the 
actual link.




I vote for having it displayed always. Besides 
consistency, seeing that it is the same confirms 
that nothing sinister is hidden underneath.


RObert
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Re: [MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 20 Sep 2016, at 13:26, Tim wrote:

The previous version of MailMate had a function, where you could see 
the real url of a link in an email message when you hovered over it 
with the mouse, the url was displayed in the lower left corner, this 
seems to be gone now. Can i turn it on again somehow?


I haven't disabled or removed this. Are you sure it doesn't work? Note 
that it's not shown if the displayed text for the link is identical to 
the actual link.


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[MlMt] Hover over Links in Messages for a Preview

2016-09-20 Thread Tim
The previous version of MailMate had a function, where you could see the 
real url of a link in an email message when you hovered over it with the 
mouse, the url was displayed in the lower left corner, this seems to be 
gone now. Can i turn it on again somehow?


-Tim
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Re: [MlMt] New icons: pick?

2016-09-20 Thread David Shepherdson

On 20 Sep 2016, at 00.25, Pedro Lobo wrote:


This should be as easy as:

1. Right click (ctrl+click) MailMate icon and choose Get Info;
2. Drag the old Icon onto the new icon in the info panel (top left). 
You’ll have to do this every time you update though.


And the way this works underneath, it makes an invisible file called 
'Icon' at the top level of the application package. So you could always 
do this manually once, then set up a script (or similar) to copy that 
same 'Icon' file back in there regularly/after MailMate updates.


(With some applications, you can be lucky and find that updates only 
replace the contents of the application package, rather than the whole 
thing -- and that way, your custom icon survives across updates with no 
further intervention on your part. I've been pleasantly surprised to 
find this is the case for iTunes, for many versions. :-))


David
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