Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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As Chris has demonstrated Probsting’s article contains as much evidence of
SDF-Assad collaboration as badly photoshopped images of YPG and SAA flags
flying together in Aleppo, or the articles a few years ago in Syrian and
Turkish state media uncritically shared IIRC by Louis among others in which
Assad claimed to have armed the YPG. Assad didn’t get around to sharing the
documents he claimed to have on this, but whom amongst us hasn’t lost some
receipts down the back of the couch?

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> > Lucky RKOB wasn’t around to give heroic keyboard advice to Tito and Ho
> Chi
> > Minh about never collaborating with the US, or theremight still be a Nazi
> > occupation of Yugoslavia and a Japanese imperial occupation of Vietnam.
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> I think the analogy might be more like Bandera collaborating with the
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[Marxism] Giving New York Munsees their Proper Names | New York Rediscovered

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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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On 8/6/18 9:02 PM, Nick Fredman via Marxism wrote:


Lucky RKOB wasn’t around to give heroic keyboard advice to Tito and Ho Chi
Minh about never collaborating with the US, or theremight still be a Nazi
occupation of Yugoslavia and a Japanese imperial occupation of Vietnam.


I think the analogy might be more like Bandera collaborating with the Nazis.
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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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Lucky RKOB wasn’t around to give heroic keyboard advice to Tito and Ho Chi
Minh about never collaborating with the US, or theremight still be a Nazi
occupation of Yugoslavia and a Japanese imperial occupation of Vietnam.

But RKOB is right that it would be silly to equate the misogynist racist
reactionaries of HTS with the multiethnic feminist leftists of the SDF.


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> This seems to me a particularly clumsy attempt to whitewash the role of
> the YPG/SDF as foot soldiers of U.S. imperialism. As it is widely known,
> the YPG/SDF leadership and the U.S. military have closely worked
> together during numerous military operations. The U.S. Air Force has
> given support to the YPG troops. The U.S. has armed the YPG, and so on.
> (See on this e.g.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces#Support_by_the_United_States,_France_and_other_Western_nations
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>

...
> How silly for Chris Slee to equate the role of the YPG with that of the
> HTS!
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Re: [Marxism] Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s appearance wows SF’s Mission. Her speech not so much. - Mission Local

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Yeah during Ocasio-Cortez's recent appearence in Ypsilanti, MI with Abdul
El-Sayed candidate in Dem primary for Gov here, AOC substituted
"progressivism" for "socialism" I  her speech. My guess *was* that she did
this at the request of El-Sayed, who doesn't use the dem socialist label
but is supported by AOC and Sanders and shares their socdem platforms.
Maximillian Alvarez of the Baffler asked El-Sayed why he doesn't call
himself a socialist, but I don't think the response made it into Max's
write-up of AOC's joint appearances with him the other weekend.  I will try
to share the response shortly.

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> (Maybe there's hope for the DSA.)
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> As such, following Ocasio-Cortez’s 20-minute speech, Alisha Foster, a
> member of the Democratic Socialists of America, said she would have
> liked for the candidate to have been more “explicitly socialist.”
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> discussing tactics for getting elected, but she avoided the big issue,
> which is capitalism.”
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[Marxism] Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s appearance wows SF’s Mission. Her speech not so much. - Mission Local

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(Maybe there's hope for the DSA.)

As such, following Ocasio-Cortez’s 20-minute speech, Alisha Foster, a 
member of the Democratic Socialists of America, said she would have 
liked for the candidate to have been more “explicitly socialist.”


“It felt like a watered-down message. She was jumping around and 
discussing tactics for getting elected, but she avoided the big issue, 
which is capitalism.”



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Re: [Marxism] Steven Salaita on A. O-C

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her critics
are an assortment of unknown activists, colonized rabble-rousers,
out-of-work professors, and writers who won't ever make the New York
Times unless they buy it.

Sad but accurate.
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[Marxism] Steven Salaita on A. O-C

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(From FB)

"Why don't you give Ocasio-Cortez a break until [some important point in 
her political future]?"


Nope. Here's why:

1. "Holding their feet to the fire" after the election is a joke. Never 
happens. Even the sincerest expression of this sentiment sounds like bad 
satire.


2. She's fixing to be seated in Congress. She's not running for student 
body president. Once seated, she will be voting on military budgets, 
foreign appropriations, and policy resolutions. In other words, she will 
be in a direct position of authority vis-a-vis Palestinians and other 
victims of US depravity.


3. How about this? Maybe the Israeli state can give Palestinians a 
break? Maybe the Zionists pressuring Ocasio-Cortez into compliance with 
settler colonization can give her a break, too? Nah, it's always 
critique from the left that needs to stop, isn't it?


4. Ocasio-Cortez is a superstar with a national following, a huge media 
platform, and the backing of some influential organizations; her critics 
are an assortment of unknown activists, colonized rabble-rousers, 
out-of-work professors, and writers who won't ever make the New York 
Times unless they buy it. It's much easier, and perhaps more lucrative, 
to belittle the losers who don't understand grown-up politics, but a bit 
of disrepute can be plenty satisfying. Try it sometime.


5. If I'm forced to choose between a Westerner's political career and 
maintaining the dignity of a national liberation struggle--a choice 
proffered not by Palestinians but by aspiring politicians--then go ahead 
and douse me in the purifying waters of Lake Fuck Your Election.

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[Marxism] Socialists, Democrats and the dirty break | SocialistWorker.org

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Eric Blanc still pushing the line that running in Democratic Party 
primaries is way to help create of a revolutionary movement in the USA. 
Or maybe a European-style social democratic party. Who the fuck knows?


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Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You

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On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Ken Hiebert via Marxism wrote:
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> A point of English usage
> Am I hopelessly out of date if I remind readers (and writers) that
> decimate means to kill one in ten, not eight in ten?
>   ken h

Sadly, you are correct but it seems hopeless to educate people.

From https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/decimate:

verb
[with object]

1 Kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of.
‘the inhabitants of the country had been decimated’

1.1 Drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something)
‘public transport has been decimated’

2 historical Kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally
a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group.
‘the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a
large body of mutineers’

Usage

Historically, the meaning of the word decimate is ‘kill one in every
ten of (a group of people)’. This sense has been more or less
totally superseded by the later, more general sense ‘kill, destroy,
or remove a large proportion of’, as in the virus has decimated the
population. Some traditionalists argue that this is incorrect, but
it is clear that it is now part of standard English

Origin

Late Middle English: from Latin decimat- ‘taken as a tenth’, from
the verb decimare, from decimus ‘tenth’. In Middle English the
term decimation denoted the levying of a tithe, and later the tax
imposed by Cromwell on the Royalists (1655).

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Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You

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...and don't get me started on the misuse of "literally "...

I heard someone say the other day, "my boss walked in, and I literally shat
myself"

I'm pretty certain he meant figuratively, or my guess is we wouldn't be
colleagues any more.

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> Ken Hiebert, unfortunately, you are hopelessly out of date despite being
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> I'm aware of followed the unsuccessful May Uprising of 1919 in which a
> barracks of Red solders was decimated by Freikorp goons. Nowadays it is
> synonymous with massacre.
>
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> impossible qualifiers: really unique, highly unique, most unique, more
> unique. But then we have all kinds of words for things that cannot be, for
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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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This seems to me a particularly clumsy attempt to whitewash the role of 
the YPG/SDF as foot soldiers of U.S. imperialism. As it is widely known, 
the YPG/SDF leadership and the U.S. military have closely worked 
together during numerous military operations. The U.S. Air Force has 
given support to the YPG troops. The U.S. has armed the YPG, and so on. 
(See on this e.g. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces#Support_by_the_United_States,_France_and_other_Western_nations)


This is why the US military has repeatedly and openly praised the YPG as 
their foot soldiers.


As we reported in a past article, US General Dunford praised the YPG as 
the US “partners” on the ground in Syria. (“/We have 50,000 partners on 
the ground./”, 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/revelations-of-u-s-general-on-washington-s-allies-in-syria/)


Maj. Gen. James Jarrard, the commander of US Special Operations against 
the Islamic State, also praised the YPG/SDF: “/They have an indomitable 
will. They have been ferocious fighters and excellent leaders and pretty 
amazing tacticians./” 
(https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/1359137/department-of-defense-press-briefing-by-general-jarrard-via-teleconference-from/)


And Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, told a 
congressional committee that the Kurdish-led fighters constitute “/the 
most effective force on the ground in Syria against ISIS/.” 
(https://armedservices.house.gov/legislation/hearings/terrorism-and-iran-defense-challenges-middle-east)


Chris Slee may deny all this out of political embarrassment but the US 
imperialists openly acknowledge the value of the YPG for Washington goals!


In contrast, the Turkish army or its air force didn’t join the HTS a 
single time in any of its operation against the Assadist forces! Hence, 
Ankara does not praise the role of the HTS. Quite the opposite, as we 
have shown in past articles, the Erdoğan regime has desired since long 
to subordinate or smash the HTS. (See e.g. 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/syria-towards-the-final-battle-in-idlib/; 
, 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/syria-idlib-the-attack-of-the-astana-conspirators-could-be-repelled-thus-far/; 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/turkey-s-hidden-war-against-hts-in-idlib/)


How silly for Chris Slee to equate the role of the YPG with that of the HTS!

As a result, Idlib is certainly not occupied by the Turkish army (until 
now). The later has created 12 observation positions at the demarcation 
line between free Idlib and the Assad-controlled territory. This is bad 
enough but still the Turkish army does not move around freely inside 
Idlib. This is in contrast to the role of the U.S. in YPG/SDF controlled 
areas!


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[Marxism] Political Gingervitis: Episode 24-Rob Duguay and Gerald Horne | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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[Marxism] Again on Syria, YPG and HTS

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This seems to me a particularly clumsy attempt to whitewash the role of 
the YPG/SDF as foot soldiers of U.S. imperialism. As it is widely known, 
the YPG/SDF leadership and the U.S. military have closely worked 
together during numerous military operations. The U.S. Air Force has 
given support to the YPG troops. The U.S. has armed the YPG, and so on. 
(See on this e.g. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces#Support_by_the_United_States,_France_and_other_Western_nations)


This is why the US military has repeatedly and openly praised the YPG as 
their foot soldiers.


As we reported in a past article, US General Dunford praised the YPG as 
the US “partners” on the ground in Syria. (“/We have 50,000 partners on 
the ground./”, 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/revelations-of-u-s-general-on-washington-s-allies-in-syria/)


Maj. Gen. James Jarrard, the commander of US Special Operations against 
the Islamic State, also praised the YPG/SDF: “/They have an indomitable 
will. They have been ferocious fighters and excellent leaders and pretty 
amazing tacticians./” 
(https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/1359137/department-of-defense-press-briefing-by-general-jarrard-via-teleconference-from/)


And Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, told a 
congressional committee that the Kurdish-led fighters constitute “/the 
most effective force on the ground in Syria against ISIS/.” 
(https://armedservices.house.gov/legislation/hearings/terrorism-and-iran-defense-challenges-middle-east)


Chris Slee may deny all this out of political embarrassment but the US 
imperialists openly acknowledge the value of the YPG for Washington goals!


In contrast, the Turkish army or its air force didn’t join the HTS a 
single time in any of its operation against the Assadist forces! Hence, 
Ankara does not praise the role of the HTS. Quite the opposite, as we 
have shown in past articles, the Erdoğan regime has desired since long 
to subordinate or smash the HTS. (See e.g. 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/syria-towards-the-final-battle-in-idlib/; 
, 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/syria-idlib-the-attack-of-the-astana-conspirators-could-be-repelled-thus-far/; 
https://www.thecommunists.net/worldwide/africa-and-middle-east/turkey-s-hidden-war-against-hts-in-idlib/)


How silly for Chris Slee to equate the role of the YPG with that of the HTS!

As a result, Idlib is certainly not occupied by the Turkish army (until 
now). The later has created 12 observation positions at the demarcation 
line between free Idlib and the Assad-controlled territory. This is bad 
enough but still the Turkish army does not move around freely inside 
Idlib. This is in contrast to the role of the U.S. in YPG/SDF controlled 
areas!


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Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You

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Ken Hiebert, unfortunately, you are hopelessly out of date despite being
correct historically and etomologically. The most recent actual decimation
I'm aware of followed the unsuccessful May Uprising of 1919 in which a
barracks of Red solders was decimated by Freikorp goons. Nowadays it is
synonymous with massacre.

I also lament the loss of the real meaning of unique in the morass of
impossible qualifiers: really unique, highly unique, most unique, more
unique. But then we have all kinds of words for things that cannot be, for
instance the sentence "It is inconceivable that...", a sentence that
contradicts itself when uttered.

I am not happy with "I will try and explain this to you" as a meaningless
substitute for "I will try TO explain this to you."

You got me started!
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[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You

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A point of English usage
Am I hopelessly out of date if I remind readers (and writers) that decimate 
means to kill one in ten, not eight in ten?
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Re: [Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You,

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On 8/6/18 9:28 AM, DW via Marxism wrote:

The book is still out on
this and it's being studies but the consensus is slowly developing that
invasive earth worm species are detrimental to forest health.


As opposed to Weyerhaeuser et al?
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[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You,

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Well...there are areas of the wheat and farm belt that haven't had a single
earth worm in over 70s years. This isn't new, it is in fact quite an old
story. Chemical nitrogen fertilizer will burn worms to death. After
destroying all the *mycorrhiza* fungi and other micro organism and reducing
the organic matter to about 1% or less...the worms die off. However...it
should be noted that with the exception of *Eisenia fetida* and the *Lumbricus
terrestris* most earth worms are really an 'invasive species' imported from
Europe and Africa. Overall they are positive and the number of earthworms
in the soil is indicative of soil health, that is, great amounts of organic
matter in the soil. They are like canneries in the coal mine...when one
ceases to see them in a spade of soil, you know you have problems. Worms
represent sort of the final processing of the decomposition of dung and
plant litter on the ground. Sometimes before, sometimes after decomp has
set in. Along with dung beetles there are hundreds of species of worms.

On the other hand, while worms have a symbiotic relationship with most
species of plants in grass lands and on the edge of forests...they are very
detrimental to forests. In some places in the northern plains, Minnesota
and Wisconsin, you can see signs that say "keep your earthworms away!".
Why? Because North American forests evolved without them, at all.
Earthworms actually pull leaves and other forest floor litter into their
dens and can deny the trees the need nutrition. The book is still out on
this and it's being studies but the consensus is slowly developing that
invasive earth worm species are detrimental to forest health.

David
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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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1. The fact that the SDF is cooperating with the US to fight against ISIS does 
not mean that the US is "occupying" SDF controlled areas.

If the presence of some foreign troops in an area amounts to "occupation", then 
Idlib is occupied by Turkey (something that RKOB has denied).

HTS forces accompanied the Turkish troops when they first moved into Idlib.  So 
you could say HTS helped Turkey to "occupy" part of Syria.

Despite some tension  between HTS and Turkey, HTS has not (as far as I am 
aware) made any attempt to drive the occupying Turkish army out.

2. The SDF is currently waging a guerrilla war against the occupying Turkish 
army in Afrin.  If there was to be a military agreement between the SDF and 
Assad (something which is hypothetical, not a reality at present), SDF would 
certainly expect help from Assad in the fight to drive the Turkish occupiers 
out.

3. RKOB speculates that the SDF will help Assad to invade Idlib.  But the SDF's 
priority will be to liberate Afrin from Turkish occupation.  I doubt that they 
would invade Idlib just for Assad's benefit.

Chris Slee


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Comments on Chris Slee’s Reply

1) Chris Slee writes: “I did however describe HTS as reactionary and
hostile to the democratic goals of the 2011 revolution.”

Everything is relative: in relation to a socialist point of view the
HTS’s goals are reactionary. In relation to the YPG’s policy they are
definitely less reactionary! The YPG/SDF has helped US imperialism to
occupy parts of Syria. And now it looks to reach a deal with the
monstrous Assad regime. This is definitely more reactionary than any of
the HTS goals!

2) Chris Slee writes: “But it seems to me that the SDF would only agree
to military cooperation if it included action against the Turkish
occupation of Afrin.”

Why should the YPG/SDF “only agree to military cooperation if it
included action against the Turkish occupation of Afrin? They did agree
to military cooperation with US imperialism for years without a single
shot fired against the Turkish army!

3) Chris Slee writes: “This would imply the breakdown of relations
between the Assad regime and Turkey - in other words, the end of the
Astana agreement.”

That might be true. But one can end the Astana agreement from a
progressive and from a reactionary point of view. Breaking the Astana
agreement by a full-blown bloody invasion of Idlib and the slaughter of
tens of thousands of Syrians (and all with the help of the YPG/SDF
mercenaries) would be a reactionary tragedy! It would be the bloodiest
version of counter-revolution!


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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Frank Rich on the 2008 Financial Crisis

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Confronted with a similar set of failures in the 1930s, the US opted for an
AMerican version of "social democracy" via the New Deal --- which was
transformed into military Keynesianism in the wake of World War II.   What
forced the ruling class to opt for a [limited] "capital-labor accord" and a
pale version of European social democracy was the existence of an
alternative on the left --- the Soviet planned economy.

With that alternative discredited and gone, the only model alternative to
the failed US "mixed economy" is some form of authoritarianism ---

Will the ruling class make their piece with "strong man rule" --- if not
with Trump than with a better salesman of "Trumpism"??

the next two elections may tell that tale 


Nothing new here but worth reading as a reflection of the thinking of a
> long-standing member of the liberal establishment.
>
> http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/frank-rich-
> 2008-financial-crisis-end-of-american-dream.html
>
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[Marxism] Frank Rich on the 2008 Financial Crisis

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Nothing new here but worth reading as a reflection of the thinking of a 
long-standing member of the liberal establishment.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/frank-rich-2008-financial-crisis-end-of-american-dream.html
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[Marxism] The Coming Worm Apocalypse Should Terrify You

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-coming-worm-apocalypse-should-terrify-you
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Re: [Marxism] King Cohen | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Larry Cohen: ”The first thing I wrote that was actually aired was a Kraft 
Playhouse, which was odd, since I used to be a page boy on the Kraft program. 
We page boys used to look forward to Kraft, because we’d get to go into the 
studio and eat all the food that was used in the commercials after the show 
went off the air. In those days, every meal counted.”

For anyone interested in learning more about Larry Cohen, including on the 
making of the Hoover movie, we ran a long interview by Pat McGilligan a few 
years ago: http://filmint.nu/?p=76
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Re: [Marxism] Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West | Opin ion | The Guardian

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Forgot that section of DREAMS FROM MY FATHER --- so unbelievably sad that a
guy with such knowledge would be so thoroughly seduced -- but if he had
REALLY tried to effect change he might have been successfully assassinated


It does suggest that relying on a "leader" is never going to work.   FDR
was just a rich guy who "wanted to be President" but in the context of the
Depression he was FORCED to do some "right" things --- creating a
structural reform to US capitalism that (in compromise with the Jim Crow
Southerners) created a social safety net and opened the door to
unionization 

Masses of people in motion is the only thing that works --- right now,
unfortunately, many masses are showing up at Trump rallies ready to start
marching on the rest of us  (except maybe their numbers APPEAR greater
than they are ... we can only hope!)
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[Marxism] Battle for Water Rights Heats Up in El Salvador

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https://truthout.org/articles/battle-for-water-rights-heats-up-in-el-salvador/
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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Towards the Final Battle in Idlib

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Comments on Chris Slee’s Reply

1) Chris Slee writes: “I did however describe HTS as reactionary and 
hostile to the democratic goals of the 2011 revolution.”


Everything is relative: in relation to a socialist point of view the 
HTS’s goals are reactionary. In relation to the YPG’s policy they are 
definitely less reactionary! The YPG/SDF has helped US imperialism to 
occupy parts of Syria. And now it looks to reach a deal with the 
monstrous Assad regime. This is definitely more reactionary than any of 
the HTS goals!


2) Chris Slee writes: “But it seems to me that the SDF would only agree 
to military cooperation if it included action against the Turkish 
occupation of Afrin.”


Why should the YPG/SDF “only agree to military cooperation if it 
included action against the Turkish occupation of Afrin? They did agree 
to military cooperation with US imperialism for years without a single 
shot fired against the Turkish army!


3) Chris Slee writes: “This would imply the breakdown of relations 
between the Assad regime and Turkey - in other words, the end of the 
Astana agreement.”


That might be true. But one can end the Astana agreement from a 
progressive and from a reactionary point of view. Breaking the Astana 
agreement by a full-blown bloody invasion of Idlib and the slaughter of 
tens of thousands of Syrians (and all with the help of the YPG/SDF 
mercenaries) would be a reactionary tragedy! It would be the bloodiest 
version of counter-revolution!



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