Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
John Berryman wrote: You'd love outdoor emergency repairs up here then. Outdoor emergencies are no more cause for concern after you'd had a few. All it takes is learning that getting upset about it doesn't make it go by any faster - usually it's the opposite. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] need a PDF...steaky never works for me!
Christopher McCann wrote: Danke Doktor! Why can I surf to these pages, but when I get to them, it's ALWAYS File not found? Am I missing something on my computer? The IT guy (85 300Dt) gets back from vacation in 2 weeks...do I need some client or something to interface with that site? Thanks, Some of the sites seem to be browser specific (don't seem to like some browsers or operating systems). There are some car models on the steaky site that I can't access with any browser I've tried (IE, Firefox, Opera) and on the braingears site I can't reach to some of the 126 pages. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Coolant OK?
Mercedes requires that the coolant be replaced every 2-3 years! That's got NOTHING to do with the ability to prevent freezing!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area
Can anyone in the SF bay area help me by picking up an item and delivering it to a shipping store?? Thanks in advance, Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Coolant OK?
Failure to change the coolant (and to use the correct stuff) will result in premature radiator failure (often holing) and can even ruin the head on cast iron block engines. Probably less trouble on aluminum block engines, but still, why risk a very expensive engine for $25 worth of coolant? Peter
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
On Mar 13, 2006, at 7:09 PM, John Ervine wrote: Outdoor emergencies are no more cause for concern after you'd had a few. All it takes is learning that getting upset about it doesn't make it go by any faster - usually it's the opposite. -- John L. Ervine That's a fact. Works for most aspects of life. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
Yes! And don't do what I did last fall... and only change the front mounts. Now I have to crawl back under and get the rear transmtion mounts, this week... When one is bad, it means that the rest are weeks/months away from going bad... the rubber/poly in the mounts all rots at the same rate! zoiks! wish I would have known that, then! --- John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:13 PM, John Ervine wrote: I think a lot of my problem was also that the passenger side mount was also collapsed (though not to the extent as the driver side). I bet you'll plan on changing both at the same time on subsequent Motor Mount jobs. When they're both new, less wrestling is required. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge
Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D. System is R12. Got my 609 certification. I assume with a broken line all freon is out. Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. I assume I have to add mineral oil 4 oz? (how do you get that in). I read that I may need 2.9lbs. I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment. No way I am going to convert to other refrigerant if I can help it. Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else. New ground for me. Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Rcvd 12 12 oz. cans R-12 Freon today. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
Decided to go on and order new mounts and hope I could get some advice on getting the hole to line up. The only 'secret' I know about is to leave _all_ bolts loose until they _all_ are started. Then tighten them down. Makes wiggling the engine much easier. In drastic cases you might even need to loosen the transmission mount, and maybe even the driveline collar nut. That floats the whole thing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Coolant OK?
Thanks Tom,
I plan to try and call the PO tomorrow to see if they kept any records or
can tell me the name of the dealer where it was serviced. It was owned by a
oil company in MA and I believe the dealer took care of the car. I hope to
be able to call them and find out what work has been done.
Thanks again for the input about the coolant -- if I can't confirm when it
was last changed, I'll go ahead and change it. I want to replace the t'stat
anyway so it'll get drained for that - so I guess it doesn't matter. ;-\
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant OK?
Nope, you only tested the antifreeze / water mix.
Antifreeze also includes corrosion inhibitors that get used up over time.
Most experts will tell you that you need to replace your coolant every 2
years to maintain enough corrosion inhibitors in the system.
The first to go will be the aluminum parts. So, how long has the
antifreeze
been in the system? If you don't know then I guarantee it's been too long.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Subject: [MBZ] Coolant OK?
Howdy -
I tested my coolant and it's good down to around -20F. Is that an
acceptable way of telling that the coolant doesn't need to be flushed
anytime soon? I'd like to wait until next Fall - and we should't have any
really cold weather until next Winter.
Thanks -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
Chuck Landenberger wrote: Of course, anyone who signs up w/Frappr is presumed to be telling the truth about name and location. And I'm not posting the pic for obvious reasons.. I think that same girl was posted last fall, but I don't recall who posted it then. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge
Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D. System is R12. Got my 609 certification. I assume with a broken line all freon is out. Oh yeah! Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. Any FLAPS book on automotive AC will tell you enough. I assume I have to add mineral oil 4 oz? (how do you get that in). If you need to add some, and you only do if you think you've lost any, you can just pour it into an open hose. I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment. I absolutely don't think anybody should touch their AC system unless they have a set of service gauges and a vacuum pump suitable for drying. Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? Did it get dirty? How long was it open to the atmosphere? You'll need a new receiver/drier, as its desiccant has probably saturated by now. But I don't know that any 'cleaning' will be necessary. It depends. Usually not. What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else. Cans are fine. Just do it right. See book! Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated There's mine: http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
Interesting that you mentioned Zen-like. I was thinking this afternoon that tiredness and working with a light was not helping and I needed to put a little more Zen (what ever that is) into it when I start over. I learned most of what I know about auto repairs the hard way, at some point I discovered what you all know -mental attitude made a huge difference. My outdoor, in the snow, story is replacing the differential in a 49 Ford in a foot of snow. I think someone bet me that I could not do it in less than a certain amount of time. I spent more time under that car than I did driving it. Would love to have it back though. Richard Murdoch All the replies are helpful and much appreciated. On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:43 PM, John Ervine wrote: .. Motor mounts are now more one of those Zen-like repairs instead of frantic action and loud cursing in cold weather. But that's like most things these days, except for the clutch master cylinder in the 280S that I did last December.
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge
For ac specific things the forum at www.aircondition.com is mighty handy, as well as the free AC advisor program that you can download from their site that you can use to calculate system pressure at a given ambient temp. Don't add the full system amount of oil unless you empty all the oil out of the system , or youll have too much in there. If the hose was in a low spot, you may need a littl, if it was high, shouldn't need any. ( if you put too much oil in, your system will have to run a higher pressure than normal to cool ) If adding for the heck of it, don't put more than an oz in it.If you want to know fr sure, dump out the compressor and the drier and blow out the condensor and evapurator, and then add teh factory oil amount ( If you want, you could flush it at this time ) Get a new drier.( add the apropriate oil for the drier, there should be a spec around somewhere for how much oil settles in each componant , or as said, if you flush the system, you can add the full amount) Might not be a bad idea to replace all the orings while you're at it. Then vacuum out the system, Close the gauges ant turn off vac pump, and watch. it should hold vacuum for 15 minuits, I like to see them hold for 1/2 hour or longer. Then vac for an hour or so and fill it up. ( use the ac advisor program to get the appropriate high side reading ) Put on a jacket and drive :-) --Robert Tom Scordato wrote: Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D. System is R12. Got my 609 certification. I assume with a broken line all freon is out. Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. I assume I have to add mineral oil 4 oz? (how do you get that in). I read that I may need 2.9lbs. I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment. No way I am going to convert to other refrigerant if I can help it. Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else. New ground for me. Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Rcvd 12 12 oz. cans R-12 Freon today. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
Im having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs. Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?). I did find a 0-W-40 but isnt that too much of a spread? Walt Lasher Seattle 92 W140 S350 Diesel
Re: [MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area
Jeff, If you send me the addresses I'll ask my daughter. She might not be able to do it because of work but we can try. May have one other person there as well. Richard Murdoch Winston Salem, NC From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/13 Mon PM 07:15:22 EST To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area Can anyone in the SF bay area help me by picking up an item and delivering it to a shipping store?? Thanks in advance, Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
Hi Walt, Join the club... the 5-qt jug of 5W-40 has been AWOL for a couple of months now. Rumor is that it may re-appear in another few months but I'm not holding my breath. About the 0W-40 stuff, I'm personally NOT a fan of it... heard some anecdotes that were enough to scare me away from using it, period. You should be able to find 5W-40 in the quart bottles at your FLAPS. There's also a new 10W-40 'Extended Performance' variant that should be pretty good, but is probably priced higher. Ditto for the 15W-50 'EP'. My local Wal-Marts have only xW-30 and thinner Mobil-1 weights... nothing xW-40 or xW-50 at all. :-( -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:53:29 -0800 From: W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN I?m having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs. Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?). I did find a 0-W-40 but isn?t that too much of a spread? Walt Lasher Seattle 92? W140 S350 Diesel
Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
Wally world (and everyone else) has stopped carrying the stuff. Mobil has really stopped making the 5w-40 stuff. It's like liquid gold now. On 3/13/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs. Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?). I did find a 0-W-40 but isn't that too much of a spread? Walt Lasher Seattle 92' W140 S350 Diesel ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
I juat picked up 3 jugs of 15W50 at Wallyworld a couple of weeks ago. They were out in a free standing aisle away from the oil section. On 3/13/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wally world (and everyone else) has stopped carrying the stuff. Mobil has really stopped making the 5w-40 stuff. It's like liquid gold now. On 3/13/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs. Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?). I did find a 0-W-40 but isn't that too much of a spread? Walt Lasher Seattle 92' W140 S350 Diesel ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
Re: [MBZ] '78 450 SLC fuel pump
Yup - I thought I was smart - hooked up the battery, connected the wires that are normally connected at the starter, jumpered what I thought was the safety shutoff on the intake manifold, and got nothing. So I ran wires and a switch directly fromthe battery to the fuel pump, but left the wiring harness attached. All I got was a buzzing from somewhere far forward in the car. Lastly I disconnected the positive wire from the fuel pump, applying 12v. directly to it, and got the click. Hopefully I'll get home early eniugh tomorrow evening to try reversing the polarity while aplying the hammer --- Depending on how you are connecting the pump, it may or may not run. If you are using the original circuitry, there may be a feedback shutoff that keeps the pump from running if certain conditions (fuel pressure, engine speed, etc.) are not met. I had this problem on a Ford (Forgive me) Powerstroke. Tom Potter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D W123 616.9xx Old Style Hand Injector Pump
That was my understanding as well. The /8 designation was widely applied in 196_8_, due to a massive redesign in a number of areas. 'Modern' suspension and driveline, crush zones, etc. So far as I know, if it's a 114/115, it _is_ a /8. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
You sure he wasn't TIPPING a cow? That is a midwest childhood tradition, sort of a rite of passage. And no, I've not done it myself, since I am an east coast transplant. On 3/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some guy was what looked like he was flipping a cow or some silly thing like that people get mighty pissed at animal mistreatment collins phila 1985 500 sec -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
Plentiful in Iowa. Need a few jugs? (Postage would kill you!) On 3/13/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs. Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?). I did find a 0-W-40 but isn't that too much of a spread? Walt Lasher Seattle 92' W140 S350 Diesel ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] More Storms
Turns out that the smoke I was smelling last night and this morning was most likely from the Texas panhandle, not the little (by comparison) local fires. That's smoke from a fire about 250 miles away that you could see in your head lights. Must have been some fire! On 3/13/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had 35 - 40 mph winds yesterday. The Eastern side of the State got T-storms and tornado warnings, our side got wild fires. I far prefer the storms to the fires --- It still smells of smoke outside. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
I CONFESS!! It was me who posted the picture of some guy 'flipping a cow...' in lieu of pictures of my cars. Since I hadn't yet taken any nice flattering photos of my MBenz's to post I thought I would post a photo that was at least representative of the area where I live. And since I still have not taken photographs to post of my MBenz's because it's winter here and they stay in the garage until I feel inclined to drive them, I guess the cow picture will have to do for now (or forever possibly unless you want to remove it). Somebody guessed right in thinking it was a branding party, although 'party' is probably not the most proper terminology. I suppose I must offer an apology to those who may feel that the picture is representing animal mistreatment, but in Montana beef is raised for export to YOUR local grocers' shelves and branding for ownership/identification purposes is only one of the necessary processes that the animal must go through in the whole program from it's birth to your dinner table (no, your steak does not grow in the store's freezer and magically appear shrink-wrapped in the cooler ready for purchase). If good old PITA PETA doesn't like it, I guess that's their problem. Actually, I think the original offensive picture in question had nothing to do with cows at all. I do think I recall somebody commenting about that one just after it was posted and I looked at it, finding nothing offensive at all, but different strokes for different folks I guess. * Newer computers aren't getting any smarter, they are just able to do stupid things at greater speeds. Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. Mike *
Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN
Sunil Hari wrote: Wally world (and everyone else) has stopped carrying the stuff. Mobil has really stopped making the 5w-40 stuff. It's like liquid gold now. NO, Mobil still makes 5W-40 but has change it's name. Now it's called Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck and Wal-Mart doesn't seem to think truck buyers are good customers. This is a marketing issue and Mobil doesn't car about trucks - SUVs are in. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: got it for $1.07 including tax because the guy wanted $200 for shipping and I could pick it up instead! Was it an eBay special, with exorbitant shipping to miss the fees? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
in Montana beef is raised for export to YOUR local grocers' shelves If good old PITA PETA doesn't like it, I guess that's their problem. I never saw your supposedly offensive picture, but if it was branding cattle, that is not offensive to me. I am with you on the PITA PETA. Around here PETA means People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. I'd much rather eat bambi than go though the hassle of trying to fix the Bambi damage on my car! BTW, our beef goes to the finest restaurants around the world, and to the kings, dictators, and filthy, stinking rich around the globe. We don't get it in the local grocery. They buy the stuff from Montana, or texas etc. The animal bozos need to read the bible, but then they won't because it is against their religion.
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
This has been a public service announcement from the Iowa Cattlemen Association and the Iowa Pork Producers. :-) On 3/13/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around here PETA means People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
Beef, Its what real men eat! (Gotta have that Baxter Black voice) only, he says, Beef, its what's for dinner! Pork, the other white meat Bambi, the best summer sausage there is! LT forgot the Iowa Egg council, the Iowa Turkey Federation, and whatever the chicken growers are At 09:55 PM 3/13/2006, you wrote: This has been a public service announcement from the Iowa Cattlemen Association and the Iowa Pork Producers. :-) On 3/13/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around here PETA means People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Two way antenna want 3 way 1233 300 TD
Potter, Tom E wrote: OK. I have been waiting and have not seen it yet. I know some of you guys are radio nuts. So please explain how the length of the antenna is related to the frequency of the radio signals. Radio waves have a length, just like waves in water. The wavelength is inversely related to the frequency, and the length of one wave can be found by dividing the speed of light by the frequency in Hertz. (This is the wavelength in free space. Signals travel slower through other materials, so an actual antenna will actually be somewhat shorter than the number you come up with this way.) Antennas function best at particular lengths, like 1/2 wave or one full wave. The wire antennas that come with most FM stereos are an example of a 1/2-wave dipole antenna, which is the most basic form of antenna. The antenna on your car is probably a 1/4-wave antenna on the FM band; the missing half is provided by the body of the car. Some older GM cars actually had a 1/2-wave dipole made of fine wire embedded in the windshield. One disadvantage of this approach was that, while a 1/4-wave antenna receives equally well in all directions, a 1/2-wave dipole has nulls off its ends where reception is weaker, causing fading when those cars turned corners. For a good introduction to basic antenna theory, look for a copy of the ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook at your local library. Their copy will probably be old, but little has changed in this field since the 1930s. The tuning knob controls a variable capacitor that changes the perceived length of the antenna. Not quite. The tuning knob controls a tuned circuit in the radio that selects one particular frequency. In a modern, properly designed radio, this isn't affected by the antenna. Some radios have a small screwdriver-adjustable trimmer capacitor that's used to tune the antenna/cable/radio system for the best reception, however. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
[MBZ] frapper .....i am sorry
i did not know what the pic was i now see it is farm life i did not mean to infer any wrong doing to any animals and i did know what the offensive pic was and thought this was what all the hubub was all about ( please keep in mind i am from philly and havent actually seen a cow or steer but i do know they exzist HOWEVER i do have a real smoke house( yep ) ...and 3 bbq grills and i thank God in heaven for rib steaks!) mike collins ( standing humbly by my bbq grill ) 1985 500 sec phila pa (looking to bbq beef brisket now hmmm where them cowboy fans when ya need them?) I CONFESS!! It was me who posted the picture of some guy 'flipping a cow...' in lieu of pictures of my cars. Since I hadn't yet taken any nice flattering photos of my MBenz's to post I thought I would post a photo that was at least representative of the area where I live. And since I still have not taken photographs to post of my MBenz's because it's winter here and they stay in the garage until I feel inclined to drive them, I guess the cow picture will have to do for now (or forever possibly unless you want to remove it). Somebody guessed right in thinking it was a branding party, although 'party' is probably not the most proper terminology
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
In order to maintain some control over who gets the ability to become a part of the benzbunch, I have set up an approval check. Not that I want to be the gatekeeper, but one guy has uploaded a picture that has been offensive. Therefore, when anyone wishes to join the benzbunch, I have to unlock the door Hope all understand.. How do I update my listing, if I want to add a picture? Do I just add myself a second time, with the new information? I promise it will be non-offensive, except to people who are offended by the site of rust.
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
exactly what part of the chicken do fingers come from any way? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec In a message dated 3/13/2006 11:09:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beef, Its what real men eat! (Gotta have that Baxter Black voice) only, he says, Beef, its what's for dinner! Pork, the other white meat Bambi, the best summer sausage there is! LT forgot the Iowa Egg council, the Iowa Turkey Federation, and whatever the chicken growers are At 09:55 PM 3/13/2006, you wrote: This has been a public service announcement from the Iowa Cattlemen Association and the Iowa Pork Producers. :-)
Re: [MBZ] NON voyage! AND leaking coolant @ head gasket
Tom Hargrave wrote: I've been nursing a leaky 1987 300SDL head along for almost 2 years now with an assortment of head gasket plugging products. I can say in my case that they work but with one side effect. They also tend to partially plug the radiator. This means that I can't drive the car during the hottest months because the temperature tends to rise. They also tend to plug up heater cores. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Owner Classic Certificate
Christopher McCann wrote: I see badges on Caddies sometimes, but never up close...what are they? High mileage badges? 50,000 miles, 100,000 miles and 150,000 miles HAHAHHA Freemasons like to put little Freemason badges on their cars. It might be one of those. In my home town such a high percentage of the Mercedes cars had them that as a kid I thought they were factory equipment. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Anyone have any thoughts on what caused the big run up in diesel prices lately? I know that the price of oil has gone up, but it doesn't seem to be affecting the gasoline price as much, at least not here in Auburn. Diesel now costs around $0.30/gallon more than premium unleaded, which is quite ridiculous. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
David Brodbeck wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on what caused the big run up in diesel prices lately? I know that the price of oil has gone up, but it doesn't seem to be affecting the gasoline price as much, at least not here in Auburn. Diesel now costs around $0.30/gallon more than premium unleaded, which is quite ridiculous. Where I live, (Pennsylvania) I pay a 13 cent premium tax (over gasoline) to buy diesel. About half of that premium goes to the Feds and half to PA. Diesel contains MORE energy than gasoline and with refining costs now representing a much smaller percentage of the total cost of fuel today (with oil at $60/barrel vs when oil was less than $20/barrel) the value of a gallon of diesel is worth MORE than a gallon of gasoline and the price reflects it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] NON voyage! AND leaking coolant @ head gasket
David Brodbeck wrote: They also tend to plug up heater cores. And you should see what they can do for a monovalve! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] ALDA seals/rebuilt ALDA
In a message dated 3/13/2006 9:26:10 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know where to get ALDA shaft seals? Dave M said you might have been the person who sold them in the past. Mark, Yes, I still have some ALDA shaft seals. Listers pay my cost, $6.00 each, cash, check, MO, and send me a stamped, self addressed envelope. You can just about install these little buggers with your thumb. the back side of a small socket works well to finish seating the seal. I have never had to replace the large O-ring, as Dave has mentioned, a light coating of silicone RTV or Hylomar will seal the old one just fine. I have one ALDA which has been pressure tested cleaned, and resealed which I will sell for $45 plus $3.85 priority mail. These carry the same part number from the earliest turbo diesels (78 in the US) through at least 87. I will remove the seal or leave it intact at the buyer's wish. A set of 3 shims is included. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh!
The car is a 78 W116 280SE made for the California market and has stayed here all her life in San Diego. Immediately after installing the springs the front bumper of the car was 5 lower than the rear bumper...and she had some unusual handling to boot. So here is the information I have at hand...from Adsitco front coil springs before installation measure 18, from another source rear springs uninstalled measure 15...so here is my suspicion...a 5 drop is a huge difference (I had lift spacers installed on the front since the new Bilsteins were grunting from the compression when I went over big dips in the road) and it almost works out to the measurement difference in the height of the springs...assuming that the car was never perfectly the same height front to back using the bumper as a center for measurement losing 3 at the front and gaining 3 at the rear would explain the huge lowering effect on the front end. I saw both sets of coils before installation (I had the rears done first, then a couple of weeks later the fronts) and they were not dramatically different in circumference, the only difference really being the height and number of turns. So I guess my next question would be would somebody be kind enough to count the number of turns on their W116 body Mercedes and advise me so I can compare? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mike in partly Sunny San Diego (but still cold) ps-Marshall I will try to find any stamping on the springs tomorrow... Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave M. wrote: Hi Michael, A quick peek at the EPC shows that there is really only one part number for springs for your car. It would help if you specified which chassis... there was a 280SE W108, W111, and W116 (and maybe more). The free length of the spring as measured when not installed will NOT be the same as the length measured when the spring is installed on the car. So, you can't really compare without removing the spring. What you can do is look at the bottom coil, there should be a part number stamped into the spring itself. We can check that against the EPC and determine if you have the correct springs installed in the car. I'm pretty sure the front rear springs would not be interchangeable, unless they are the same diameter, which would be unusual. Replacing springs in an older Mercedes is often an exercise in frustration. If you go to the TDM for your car you will find pages of listing for springs that were available when the car was manufactured. The proper spring depended upon the particular accessories were included on your car. Even after all of that, there were at least two different spring (color coded) for each configuration that require different pads to properly set height. As time since production of the car passes, the number of different springs actually available for replacement dwindles and thus getting precisely the original spring height may be impossible and setting the height becomes an art and NOT a science. It's matter of trying different pads with the springs you have and making a LOT of measurements. Trying to do it by eye is hopeless. I have dozens of post from people that have tried (at dealers, independents and on their own) and the number that have achieved what they set out to do I can count on the fingers of one hand with a few fingers left over. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 06:51:44 2006 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJ3Nf-0001Nz-Pl for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:51:43 + Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id 2006031406510101200c7aine; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:51:01 + Received: from grackle ([192.168.1.5]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1FJ3My-000FDD-Ju for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:51:00 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:51:00 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:51:00PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: With diesel now costing around 30% more than regular unleaded, I doubt my next car will be a diesel. It doesn't make economic sense anymore. It's not hard to find midsize gasoline cars that get 22 mpg or better. If you are looking for something completely toasterlike, a coworker bought a new camry with a four cylinder. Window sticker claims 34 mpg, if you believe it. Somewhat impressive for the size of the car, since generally that type of highway mileage in that size of car is reserved for diesels or hybrids (which his camry is neither). Gasoline engines are requiring less and less maintenance as the technology progresses. More impressive is that my 94 crown victoria got 22 mpg off 87 octane before it started using oil. At 220k (and about half of that put on by a sheriff's office), I cut it a lot of slack. Still gets 20 mpg on the road. The new ones supposedly get 24-25 mpg without much effort. This is not to say that similar increases in technologies haven't been made in diesel cars as well. From just a mileage and cost of maintenance after the initial outlay of cash perspective, a 25 year old diesel is a hard sell against a new gasser unless you abhor driving pedestrian vehicles and prefer working on your own car rather than drinking cappuchinos in the dealer lobby. K
[MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
Mechanical Geniuses, My diesels are running but the dishwasher is disabled. It's a Maytag JetClean. The arm spins freely by hand but won't move on its own. It has plenty of water in the sump. Normally I find a fork or Barbie doll or something blocking it but everything looks clear. Any last minute ideas before we visit the appliance store? Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 08:06:29 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJ4Y1-00074q-He for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:29 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so1340593wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:06:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AFVQX/o6S7YLUPvCL6YLY3CKEVc3ZALE+LhtLMlDeORlV4q3MNixkl1D1hUcltWe37hRG+W0kLQCMVQOfK9DnwCbSVrTVizzTIM/cvFeTWTlqgqbfIZpoKWzO48Cl79TVkcoKTgvG0faotzWxaQE4gfocUoLxD+m2Dw9mWdW/MU= Received: by 10.54.152.10 with SMTP id z10mr343455wrd; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.10 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:06:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:06:27 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to take apart w124 seats X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:30 - On 3/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex wrote:the usual broken 124 headrest issue Can you please elaborate? I have a '91 and the headrests are fine - they even work with the buttons in the doors - should I expect a problem with to arise? Whoops, just noticed your reply, Larry! I don't know if it's different on your '91---maybe they redesigned it---but on early 124s the mechanism inside the seat back that raises and lowers the headrests tends to self-destruct (in addition to the switches going bad and the wiring through the door-jamb breaking from flexion---all three have happened on my '87). This thread on MercedesShop discusses the problem and how to fix it in great detail. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=3D53955 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
Get the missus to do the washing up and save yourself some money which you can then spend on the Merc. Of course you can spend the saved money on a French maid outfit the missus could wear while doing the dishes. Perhaps you should convert the dishwasher to run on diesel. Seriously, you have studied the operators manual to ensure there are no filters in the system that require cleaning? Hendrik who does the dishes most days but does not have to wear a special outfit while doing them - Original Message - From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher Mechanical Geniuses, My diesels are running but the dishwasher is disabled. It's a Maytag JetClean. The arm spins freely by hand but won't move on its own. It has plenty of water in the sump. Normally I find a fork or Barbie doll or something blocking it but everything looks clear. Any last minute ideas before we visit the appliance store? Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 7/03/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Craig McCluskey wrote: Was it an eBay special, with exorbitant shipping to miss the fees? Maybe it was but I'm not so sure.. UPS is exorbitant (I went to UPS, did not use the ebay tool) when the weight exceeds 120 lbs Since it is 3000VA 208 in/out with 400VA of 120, it actually has three large trannies in it... in addition to 8 7.2AH 12V cells. When I moved it, it was without cells and I swear the proliant (6000-old iron but it takes a metric arseload of disk storage and is a tank :) almost grunted when I put it on top of it. -j.
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
LT Don wrote: You sure he wasn't TIPPING a cow? That is a midwest childhood tradition, sort of a rite of passage. And no, I've not done it myself, since I am an east coast transplant. IIRC, (I haven't seen it since last year) some guy dressed like a cowboy had roped, or was roping, a brown calf (Herford?) thst was down on the ground. I just assumed it was rodeo competition, but now that I think about it, the pic was on grass, not a dirt arena. As for PETA, there was recently a demonstration which included a young woman wearing nothing but panties and a crude meat cutting diagram drawn on her body, holding a pro-vegetarian sign over her breasts. It worked to a certain extent, it was the first PETA activity that got a full color picture of their protest sign in the local paper.
[MBZ] engine swap 83 617 to 80
Without going into the gorey details I have a hole in the block of my nice new to me 1980 300SD. It just so haapens I still have the engine and tranny from my 83 300SD. The older tranny only has 150,000 mi while the 83 has over 300 but was shifting fine. Can I mate the 83 engine to the 80 transmission, or is there a crankshaft pilot problem? Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL
[MBZ] gasser 1972 220 neutral safety switch location
Hello listers. The guy with the 1972 220 has gotten a key for it, so I'll be looking at it on Wednesday. When I went to look at it last weekend, he told me that it didn't start reliably and that it needed a starter solenoid. I thought that this would have been part of the starter replacement? However, the more I think about it, the possibility of a faulty NSS seems more and more sure to me. Is this something that is as straight forward as it was with my 78 300D neutral safety switch? If this is the problem, I could be into a running car for around $300 which would be great! It could sure used new tires, but that isn't anything out of the ordinary. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D 1972 220, possibly
Re: [MBZ] engine swap 83 617 to 80
Bob DuPuy wrote: Without going into the gorey details I have a hole in the block of my nice new to me 1980 300SD. It just so haapens I still have the engine and tranny from my 83 300SD. The older tranny only has 150,000 mi while the 83 has over 300 but was shifting fine. Can I mate the 83 engine to the 80 transmission, or is there a crankshaft pilot problem? No problem mating a pre-85 tranny to a pre-85 engine. There would be certain issues with using the 126 tranny in the 116, such as speedo drive and possibly the first gear start and kickdown systems, but don't worry about that stuff if you are keeping the 116 tranny in the 116. I'd pull both engines, sit them side by side, and swap over any parts (manifolds, a/c compressor, whatever) that aren't identical before putting the 617.951 in the 116 in place of the 617.950.
Re: [MBZ] head gasket OM 617
Kaleb - Thanks for the note. Wish I could figure out where the coolant is going - perhaps the heater core has a small leak, as I do smell antifreeze for a moment or two when I first turn it on. Can't figure out why radiator tank should be pressurized from that, though. It is a small PITA because periodically the temp gauge just rockets up. Will have to check coolant level when I fill up I suppose. Will check into it further and let you know if I need a rebuilt head. Thanks again, Karl Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt you have any head/gasket problems. If you did you would be going thru coolant more often than that. As far as the mileage goes, there are many other things that would cause a drop in mileage before a head gasket would. If you still want a head I have them available. Karl Wittnebel wrote: 1985 300TD has high pressure in the radiator tank even when cold. Runs low on coolant, but only about twice a year, no visible leak. Mileage has decreased from 26 - 21mpg, no detectable loss of power. Performed coolant chemical test for leak, which was negative. Is this the head gasket? If so, anyone have a rebuilt head they'd like to get rid of? Not in a big rush to fix it, but would like my 26mpg back! Thanks, Karl - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 11:32:32 2006 Received: from web50615.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.115]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJ7lP-0006Rx-BA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:32:32 + Received: (qmail 53517 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2006 11:32:25 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d54qTtbkgOcIQWzMr4aiMbsINakSwWRrI4iK3Pp/kMUJAZTRSTkOpI8m2hAFxTYCDCcsRDYM4jq9dUYGiLX/+l7Fim0b6vhnLdhZ6TgtfKUb2TMaIk/XORbB3WHV0ONTN8FWzpuLIXXI3eHVyhMNCR9ziIkPZ86QHWuw8MrCdZI= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [68.33.138.148] by web50615.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:32:25 PST Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: Karl Wittnebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] head gasket OM 617 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:32:32 - Kaleb - Thanks for the note. Wish I could figure out where the coolant is going - perhaps the heater core has a small leak, as I do smell antifreeze for a moment or two when I first turn it on. Can't figure out why radiator tank should be pressurized from that, though. It is a small PITA because periodically the temp gauge just rockets up. Will have to check coolant level when I fill up I suppose. Will check into it further and let you know if I need a rebuilt head. Thanks again, Karl Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt you have any head/gasket problems. If you did you would be going thru coolant more often than that. As far as the mileage goes, there are many other things that would cause a drop in mileage
Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge
thanks Jim - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 Freon Charge Noticed a busted ac hose on my 1979 240D. System is R12. Got my 609 certification. I assume with a broken line all freon is out. Oh yeah! Does anyone have a link or a procedure for charging they system with R-12. Any FLAPS book on automotive AC will tell you enough. I assume I have to add mineral oil 4 oz? (how do you get that in). If you need to add some, and you only do if you think you've lost any, you can just pour it into an open hose. I can get the R-12 anything else I should know special equipment. I absolutely don't think anybody should touch their AC system unless they have a set of service gauges and a vacuum pump suitable for drying. Do I need to clean system or can I just charge the system? Did it get dirty? How long was it open to the atmosphere? You'll need a new receiver/drier, as its desiccant has probably saturated by now. But I don't know that any 'cleaning' will be necessary. It depends. Usually not. What is the best way, will the cans do it or do I need something else. Cans are fine. Just do it right. See book! Any sea stories or help/link would be appreciated There's mine: http://cathey.dogear.com/cwair.html -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
They sell cow tipping T shirts in the Milwaukee airport-right next to the Harley goods. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE! You sure he wasn't TIPPING a cow? That is a midwest childhood tradition, sort of a rite of passage. And no, I've not done it myself, since I am an east coast transplant. On 3/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some guy was what looked like he was flipping a cow or some silly thing like that people get mighty pissed at animal mistreatment collins phila 1985 500 sec -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] frapper .....i am sorry
Mike you need to get the heck out of that city and see a cow man.If you have never seen a cow there are a whole lot of other things you're missing just on the way to where the cows are. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] frapper .i am sorry i did not know what the pic was i now see it is farm life i did not mean to infer any wrong doing to any animals and i did know what the offensive pic was and thought this was what all the hubub was all about ( please keep in mind i am from philly and havent actually seen a cow or steer but i do know they exzist HOWEVER i do have a real smoke house( yep ) ...and 3 bbq grills and i thank God in heaven for rib steaks!) mike collins ( standing humbly by my bbq grill ) 1985 500 sec phila pa (looking to bbq beef brisket now hmmm where them cowboy fans when ya need them?) I CONFESS!! It was me who posted the picture of some guy 'flipping a cow...' in lieu of pictures of my cars. Since I hadn't yet taken any nice flattering photos of my MBenz's to post I thought I would post a photo that was at least representative of the area where I live. And since I still have not taken photographs to post of my MBenz's because it's winter here and they stay in the garage until I feel inclined to drive them, I guess the cow picture will have to do for now (or forever possibly unless you want to remove it). Somebody guessed right in thinking it was a branding party, although 'party' is probably not the most proper terminology ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] engine swap 83 617 to 80
while the 83 has over 300 but was shifting fine. Can I mate the 83 [SD] engine to the 80 [SD] transmission, or is there a crankshaft pilot problem? Oughta work! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
My diesels are running but the dishwasher is disabled. It's a Maytag JetClean. The arm spins freely by hand but won't move on its own. It has plenty of water in the sump. Normally I find a fork or Barbie doll or something blocking it but everything looks clear. Any last minute ideas before we visit the appliance store? Can you hear water being pumped with vigor? Our old Whirlpool (?) had a rubber donut atop the arm that swells under pressure to seal against the tube that points up to the upper arm. That donut was torn, resulting in low water pressure and most of it going noplace useful. An easy screw-off/screw-on replacement of a readily available part. Your mileage almost certainly will vary! Our next installment: the story of the Amana Radarange. (It's not only our cars from the 70's that we're keeping going around here! Annoys my wife to no end. [All of it, probably.]) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] frapper .....i am sorry
Come to the OkieQ. You not only get to see cows but also some hogs. On 3/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( please keep in mind i am from philly and havent actually seen a cow or steer but i do know they exzist. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY.I have yet to see the amusement in that but it is really funny to hear of someone actually doing it. Guess us country boys out here aren't quite as fascinated with cows as some city folk seem to be.. Mike - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE! Uh ... Loren ... anything in your past that you want to share? A reader in Hawaii wrote: Cow tipping is possible, it is very simple and I've done it. It requires three people (note: be very quiet, but sobriety may be a hindrance), one person on one side of the cow, two on the other. The lone person pushes very hard on his side, and waiting for the balancing response from the startled animal, the other two then push very hard on their side to overbalance her. Works like a charm.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_tipping On 3/14/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They sell cow tipping T shirts in the Milwaukee airport-right next to the Harley goods. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
You DO NOT want to know! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE! exactly what part of the chicken do fingers come from any way? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec
[MBZ] 4cyl diesel engine and tranny wanted
I need a cheap (read free if possible) 4 cyl MBZ diesel engine for a tractor I am building. Don't care what one as long as it's a 4cyl(for efficiency over the 5) and can be made running fairly easily. I can haul off a whole rusted out car or whatever. Located in Montour Falls, NY. I can travel to pick one up for the right price. Thanks All, Mike - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE! You DO NOT want to know! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE! exactly what part of the chicken do fingers come from any way? mike collins phila pa 1985 500 sec ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection
Wow! It takes a LOT to make that 6000 grunt! Of coarse, there are the plastic wheels - maybe they were grunting. We're just now decommissioning several 6000s that were full of disks and running exchange. Real work horses that just kept on going. and I swear the proliant (6000-old iron but it takes a metric arseload of disk storage and is a tank :) almost grunted when I put it on top of it. -j. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
Yup - it's probably not as old as the Radarange, but the Sears microwave we received as a wedding present in 1975 is still in daily use. The kid's friends have never seen a microwave without a dozen buttons on the front! From there we move to the 1960's cameras, to the 1897 Leitz microscope (that takes more recent lenses) Our next installment: the story of the Amana Radarange. (It's not only our cars from the 70's that we're keeping going around here! Annoys my wife to no end. [All of it, probably.]) -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
site of rust - are you suggesting a new name for the group website? BillR How do I update my listing, if I want to add a picture? Do I just add myself a second time, with the new information? I promise it will be non-offensive, except to people who are offended by the site of rust. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
2 knobs, right? One for cycle time one for time? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher Yup - it's probably not as old as the Radarange, but the Sears microwave we received as a wedding present in 1975 is still in daily use. The kid's friends have never seen a microwave without a dozen buttons on the front! From there we move to the 1960's cameras, to the 1897 Leitz microscope (that takes more recent lenses) Our next installment: the story of the Amana Radarange. (It's not only our cars from the 70's that we're keeping going around here! Annoys my wife to no end. [All of it, probably.]) -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
I did glowplugs in my 240D at 10F once, it was the warmest day we'd had in a
week, to prove the evil of mother nature the next day it was 40F...
-Curt
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You'd love outdoor emergency repairs up here then.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] need a PDF...steaky never works for me!
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Christopher McCann wrote:
Why can I surf to these pages, but when I get to them, it's ALWAYS File
not found? Am I missing something on my computer?
Hi Christopher,
I had a problem with Acrobat after installing their recent update (ver
7.07 IIRC) and I had to uninstall Acrobat and then reinstall it to get
things working properly again.
Drove me crazy trying to understand why I was unable to open pdf files
by using a link - but I was able to open Acrobat and use the file open
command - if you can open Acrobat files using File/Open but not when trying
to follow a link - even within the MB manual - you might try this.
Good luck -
Sincerely,
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Christopher McCann wrote:
Danke Doktor! Why can I surf to these pages, but when I get to them,
it's ALWAYS File not found? Am I missing something on my computer?
The IT guy (85 300Dt) gets back from vacation in 2 weeks...do I need
some client or something to interface with that site?
Thanks,
Some of the sites seem to be browser specific (don't seem to like some
browsers or operating systems). There are some car models on the
steaky site that I can't access with any browser I've tried (IE,
Firefox, Opera) and on the braingears site I can't reach to some of
the 126 pages.
Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] NON voyage! AND leaking coolant @ head gasket
Doesn't do thermostats any good either. I can tell you from experience on an '88 GMC Jimmy S15 2.8l if the thermostat plugs the coolant can vent through the overflow bottle... Not pretty. My '81 300TD came to me with that stuff in it, plugged 2 thermostats before I got it all flushed out. It takes ALOT of flushing to get all that crud out. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:11:04 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] NON voyage! AND leaking coolant @ head gasket To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed David Brodbeck wrote: They also tend to plug up heater cores. And you should see what they can do for a monovalve! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 15:08:32 2006 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.89]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJB8R-0001vK-TQ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:08:32 + Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EF8MTY019013; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (ip68-2-210-120.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.210.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EF8K3O015637; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:08:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:08:19 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Frappr Picture Upload. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:08:32 - David, From the Benzbunch map, scroll down just below the pictures that are scrolling right to left and you will find Add Photos.. Click on that, enter your name and attach your photo, then click on Upload (or something like that) Should work Let me know if it doesn't Chuck Benbunch administrator PS. And I'm curious When a topic changes, why can't we change the Subject: of the post
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Unless the taxation changes or people change their driving habits. I think that we will see a gentle improvement in fleet economy as the gigunda SUVs fall from favor a bit but I don't see that happening overnight. I do think that people are making more efficient choices in their replacement vehicles but I don't think they're running right out to buy a more efficient vehicle, as older ones come up for replacement though... Anyway, are you buying a diesel Mercedes just for the fuel economy? I'm sure not, well not entirely anyway. I genuinely like driving these older Mercedes and from what I've read its more difficult to keep the gassers on the road and I drive about 450 miles a week so the diesel fits my needs. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:51:00 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I guess that makes sense. It may be a permanent change, then, I suppose. With diesel now costing around 30% more than regular unleaded, I doubt my next car will be a diesel. It doesn't make economic sense anymore. It's not hard to find midsize gasoline cars that get 22 mpg or better. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 15:08:59 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.200] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FJB8t-0001xW-L5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:08:59 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:08 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:09:00 - First, why did you replace the springs in the first place. Next, why didnt you get them from Rusty? michael smith wrote: The car is a 78 W116 280SE made for the California market and has stayed here all her life in San Diego. Immediately after installing the springs the front bumper of the car was 5 lower than the rear bumper...and she had some unusual handling to boot. So here is the information I have at hand...from Adsitco front coil springs before installation measure 18, from another source rear springs uninstalled measure 15...so here is my suspicion...a 5 drop is a huge difference (I had lift spacers installed on the front since the new Bilsteins were grunting from the compression when I went over big dips in the road) and it almost works out to the measurement difference in the height of the springs...assuming that the car was never perfectly the same height front to back using the bumper as a center for measurement losing 3 at the front and gaining 3 at the rear would explain the huge lowering effect on the front end. I saw both sets of coils before installation (I had the rears done first, then a couple of weeks later the fronts) and they were not dramatically different in circumference, the only difference really being the height and number of turns. So I guess my next question would be would somebody be kind enough to count the number of turns on their W116 body Mercedes and advise me so I can compare? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mike in partly Sunny San Diego (but still cold) ps-Marshall I will try to find any stamping on the springs tomorrow... Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave M. wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] engine swap 83 617 to 80
yep, it will work just fine. You will have to swap the oil filter canister, linkage, motor mount arms and such but it should be a drop in replacement. Bob DuPuy wrote: Without going into the gorey details I have a hole in the block of my nice new to me 1980 300SD. It just so haapens I still have the engine and tranny from my 83 300SD. The older tranny only has 150,000 mi while the 83 has over 300 but was shifting fine. Can I mate the 83 engine to the 80 transmission, or is there a crankshaft pilot problem? Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ALDA seals/rebuilt ALDA
Hi Jim, What is your address so I can send a Money Order to you for the ALDA shaft seal. My car is a 91 350SD. Should I take a picture of the ALDA shaft seal to confirm it is the same? Thanks Mark Maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/2006 01:06 cc: AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALDA seals/rebuilt ALDA In a message dated 3/13/2006 9:26:10 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know where to get ALDA shaft seals? Dave M said you might have been the person who sold them in the past. Mark, Yes, I still have some ALDA shaft seals. Listers pay my cost, $6.00 each, cash, check, MO, and send me a stamped, self addressed envelope. You can just about install these little buggers with your thumb. the back side of a small socket works well to finish seating the seal. I have never had to replace the large O-ring, as Dave has mentioned, a light coating of silicone RTV or Hylomar will seal the old one just fine. I have one ALDA which has been pressure tested cleaned, and resealed which I will sell for $45 plus $3.85 priority mail. These carry the same part number from the earliest turbo diesels (78 in the US) through at least 87. I will remove the seal or leave it intact at the buyer's wish. A set of 3 shims is included. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Around here, I see people rushing out to purchase more efficient vehicles. They trade in their older gas hogs in for hybrid econo boxes, resulting in better gas mileage, lower fuel cost, higher payments and a HIGHER OVERALL MONTHLY COST. One family member and several friends have already fallen into this trap. I've already noticed that the price of older vans have crashed, probably as a fallout of higher fuel prices, and if you value shop you can find an excellent early 90's custom van for well under $3,000.00. Many of these have few miles because the owners used them for family outings and mileage really isn't that bad - in the high teens. That's not bad for a full size custom fun vehicle that you can also use to haul Mercedes parts (necessary Mercedes content) home from the local junk yard. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices Unless the taxation changes or people change their driving habits. I think that we will see a gentle improvement in fleet economy as the gigunda SUVs fall from favor a bit but I don't see that happening overnight. I do think that people are making more efficient choices in their replacement vehicles but I don't think they're running right out to buy a more efficient vehicle, as older ones come up for replacement though... Anyway, are you buying a diesel Mercedes just for the fuel economy? I'm sure not, well not entirely anyway. I genuinely like driving these older Mercedes and from what I've read its more difficult to keep the gassers on the road and I drive about 450 miles a week so the diesel fits my needs. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:51:00 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I guess that makes sense. It may be a permanent change, then, I suppose. With diesel now costing around 30% more than regular unleaded, I doubt my next car will be a diesel. It doesn't make economic sense anymore. It's not hard to find midsize gasoline cars that get 22 mpg or better. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Vonage
Is anyone here using Vonage? What do like/dislike about it? Can the old junction box be wired into the adapter so all phone jacks in the house will work? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
B Dike wrote: Mechanical Geniuses, My diesels are running but the dishwasher is disabled. It's a Maytag JetClean. The arm spins freely by hand but won't move on its own. It has plenty of water in the sump. Normally I find a fork or Barbie doll or something blocking it but everything looks clear. Any last minute ideas before we visit the appliance store? Well, if you've already written it off as needing replaced, what harm can be done by taking it apart? If you break something on the way out you've already written it off, but if you find the problem you're good to go! Might be worth it just to see what all is in there (but I'm dorky like that)... John
Re: [MBZ] Vonage
Johnny, I'm using Lingo (www.lingo.com) as a VOIP and very pleased. Unlimited time for $19.95/mo. $5 cheaper than Vonnage. Only feature that's unavailable is FAX, but I just scan a document and attach to an email. Current hookup is thru Cable Box. Plug in the VOIP box and then plug in the phone. I haven't tried to connect into the house phone wiring. But, w/a cordless phone, for me I'm happy.. Take care, Chuck PS... If you go Lingo and use me as a reference, then I get something (I think). Don't know what identifier they need. C.. On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:40 AM, John Berryman wrote: Is anyone here using Vonage? What do like/dislike about it? Can the old junction box be wired into the adapter so all phone jacks in the house will work? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
Yup - it's probably not as old as the Radarange, but the Sears microwave we received as a wedding present in 1975 is still in daily use. The kid's friends have never seen a microwave without a dozen buttons on the front! Ours, from 76 [house built] I believe, has a dozen buttons. It has the glass touch panel for the timer. That thing is built really really stoutly, and is very serviceable. I've had the electrolytic power supply filter caps go bad, and bad solder joints. Sound familiar? I've laid in a spare oven for parts. St. Vinnie's, $2! Everything but the special glass tray, but probably broken in some way. (I've never even looked at it.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Maytag Diswasher
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:07:19 -0800 (PST) B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mechanical Geniuses, My diesels are running but the dishwasher is disabled. It's a Maytag JetClean. The arm spins freely by hand but won't move on its own. It has plenty of water in the sump. Normally I find a fork or Barbie doll or something blocking it but everything looks clear. Any last minute ideas before we visit the appliance store? You can get some help from http://www.repairclinic.com, (800) 269-2609. The refrigerator magnet we got from them with a part order says, appliance parts all brands models free repair help Los Alamos has no appliance stores and Santa Fe is an hour away, so we mail-order a lot. So, give them a call and ask them for help. They certainly know more about appliances than any of us. Craig P.S. If you have a digital camera, taking pictures as you take things apart will help you get them back together. I did that when I removed and disassembled the timer from our KitchenAid dishwasher.
Re: [MBZ] Vonage
Probably a Mercedez key ring made in Taiwan. On 3/14/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny, I'm using Lingo (www.lingo.com) as a VOIP and very pleased. Unlimited time for $19.95/mo. $5 cheaper than Vonnage. Only feature that's unavailable is FAX, but I just scan a document and attach to an email. Current hookup is thru Cable Box. Plug in the VOIP box and then plug in the phone. I haven't tried to connect into the house phone wiring. But, w/a cordless phone, for me I'm happy.. Take care, Chuck PS... If you go Lingo and use me as a reference, then I get something (I think). Don't know what identifier they need. C.. On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:40 AM, John Berryman wrote: Is anyone here using Vonage? What do like/dislike about it? Can the old junction box be wired into the adapter so all phone jacks in the house will work? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr - I'm the complainer and here's why
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:09 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I complained about the girl - operative word - GIRL (i.e. not woman). I also brought it up to Chuck offlist. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon
From earlier enquiries it looks like I'm missing a piece of the throttle linkage, a weirdly-bent strap of metal into which the idle knob link attaches. It's a strap of metal with one end as if it were bent around a stick and a long tail left on one side, and it's carefully shaped to fit within the butterfly-shaped hole in STOP lever. The curved section on one side of the lever, the tail sticking through. There's a hole in the tail (I imagine) for the idle cable to fit through, with a clamping nut on the back. Not something that one could fabricate easily at home, not and have it work as intended. (Flex so that the STOP lever can still function.) Anybody got an extra one? I've attached a partial photograph of one, it ought to end up on the list server. -- Jim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: stop.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 26823 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060314/e63d8054/stop.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Frappr UPDATE!
Cow tipping...very simple...Works like a charm. This is fine in theory, but has anyone explained the procedure to the cows? Since my father was a veterinarian (primarily large-animal, as they say in the trade) who always took advantage of all the free help he could get, I grew up in close proximity to cows, horses, sheep (don't even go there) and most any other types of animals you could name, domestic and otherwise. I recall most of the cows anyway, having a generally suspicious nature about me or any other human being, especially after undergoing pregnancy testing(ask me and I'll tell you), and can't remember too many that would let me get close enough to set them up for such an undertaking. I did have a small herd of my own--80 animals being considered at the 'hobby' level in Montana--and even though they were good natured animals for the most part, I would needed to have had a very good reason to push on them to see if I could tip them over. It's fun to think about, anyway--something like sticking your finger in a fan to see if it hurts. At any rate, possible random cow tipping seems like a very good reason to exercise my right to consume large quantities of Jack Daniels, and the next time I come home with a snootful I'll just tell my wife I've been out looking for a cow to tip. In the unlikely event that she doesn't believe that, it's pretty easy to imagine where I'll spend the rest of the night anyway--out in the barn sleeping with the cows!
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
My snow story relates to repairing our hydraulic wood splitter. I was doing it outside in November and it was snowing big fluffy flakes so hard that my tools would disappear in a minute or so if I set them down. I managed to change the sprockets and chain and find most of the sockets etc. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Murdoch Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt Interesting that you mentioned Zen-like. I was thinking this afternoon that tiredness and working with a light was not helping and I needed to put a little more Zen (what ever that is) into it when I start over. I learned most of what I know about auto repairs the hard way, at some point I discovered what you all know -mental attitude made a huge difference. My outdoor, in the snow, story is replacing the differential in a 49 Ford in a foot of snow. I think someone bet me that I could not do it in less than a certain amount of time. I spent more time under that car than I did driving it. Would love to have it back though. Richard Murdoch All the replies are helpful and much appreciated. On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:43 PM, John Ervine wrote: .. Motor mounts are now more one of those Zen-like repairs instead of frantic action and loud cursing in cold weather. But that's like most things these days, except for the clutch master cylinder in the 280S that I did last December. ___
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
When you say alignment bar could that be a very large screwdriver ? or is that a special tool ? Also, is there any other job that is good to do while you are replacing motor mounts. I have a recollection that it is a good time to do oil cooler lines. Or fix a leaking oil filter housing. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 93kmi On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Richard Murdoch wrote: I spent yesterday replacing the oil cooler lines on our 82 300TDt and thought I was doing fine until I could not get the right engine support to align with the motor mount bolt hole. (Thought I was home free when the left side dropped right into place.) Cut the other side loose again, lift the engine evenly and insert an alignment bar in both holes in chassis into the mounts. Lower the engine slowly using the line-up bars to center both mounts at once. I do this alone most of the time but an assistant can come in handy. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
David Brodbeck wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: Diesel contains MORE energy than gasoline and with refining costs now representing a much smaller percentage of the total cost of fuel today (with oil at $60/barrel vs when oil was less than $20/barrel) the value of a gallon of diesel is worth MORE than a gallon of gasoline and the price reflects it. I guess that makes sense. It may be a permanent change, then, I suppose. With diesel now costing around 30% more than regular unleaded, I doubt my next car will be a diesel. It doesn't make economic sense anymore. It's not hard to find midsize gasoline cars that get 22 mpg or better. Your talking about diesel engines designed 30+ years ago using 40-50 year old technology. Move into the 21st century! Diesel still makes a lot of sense when a midsized car get 35-40 mpg and a small car 50 mpg! I just talked to a plumber that is so thrilled with his 2 year old Sprinter that gets 25 mpg and require less than half the maintenance then his previous truck that delivered 8-10 mpg. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
Something like this with a tapered end works well. http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=79 29CategoryName=SubCategoryName= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt When you say alignment bar could that be a very large screwdriver ? or is that a special tool ? Also, is there any other job that is good to do while you are replacing motor mounts. I have a recollection that it is a good time to do oil cooler lines. Or fix a leaking oil filter housing. Thanks, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 93kmi On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Richard Murdoch wrote: I spent yesterday replacing the oil cooler lines on our 82 300TDt and thought I was doing fine until I could not get the right engine support to align with the motor mount bolt hole. (Thought I was home free when the left side dropped right into place.) Cut the other side loose again, lift the engine evenly and insert an alignment bar in both holes in chassis into the mounts. Lower the engine slowly using the line-up bars to center both mounts at once. I do this alone most of the time but an assistant can come in handy. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Vonage
I wired mine into the house system, but we only have a wireless base and a fax. Not sure how many extensions it will support. Every once in a while you get a crappy connection and redialing fixes it. They have been down once in the last year when I wanted to make a call. I like being able to take the little box on vacation and use a hotspot to catch up on phone calls while overseas (use your laptop and Internet Connection Sharing). Some countries block the ports, but you can turn down the bandwidth and VPN in to get around that. If you plug the box in series, it gives data priority to voice calls. If you put it inside your firewall, you may need to do that manually. Hope this helps. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 3/14/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone here using Vonage? What do like/dislike about it? Can the old junction box be wired into the adapter so all phone jacks in the house will work? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] need a PDF...steaky never works for me!
If using Internet Excrapper, right click and click save as and open in Adobe solo. IE is worthless with ALL pdf's as a plugin. Luther ~Yeah, I think it is a browser/browser setting issue. I've never been able to ~open a single page on either of those sites unless someone e-mails me the ~link. ~ ~ Uh, just thought of something - wonder if I e-mail myself the link, then, ~click on it from within an e-mailAHA - that might work. ~ ~ Chris -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
[MBZ] MB: 1985 300D Turbo 123 Nice
If you have time drill down on write up. I think seller might be refering to the group here http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Turbo-Diesel-Sedan-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ4621223248QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vonage I wired mine into the house system, but we only have a wireless base and a fax. Not sure how many extensions it will support. Every once in a while you get a crappy connection and redialing fixes it. They have been down once in the last year when I wanted to make a call. I like being able to take the little box on vacation and use a hotspot to catch up on phone calls while overseas (use your laptop and Internet Connection Sharing). Some countries block the ports, but you can turn down the bandwidth and VPN in to get around that. If you plug the box in series, it gives data priority to voice calls. If you put it inside your firewall, you may need to do that manually. Hope this helps. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 3/14/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone here using Vonage? What do like/dislike about it? Can the old junction box be wired into the adapter so all phone jacks in the house will work? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB: 1985 300D Turbo 123 Nice
That is exactly as my '82 looks, same color combination and same condition of paint and interior. Mine has 74kmi, a 5 hole in the block, and a broken #1 rod ~If you have time drill down on write up. I think seller might be refering ~to the group here ~ ~http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Turbo-DieselSedan-Immaculate_W0QQitemZ4621223248QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:20 PM, R A Bennell wrote: My snow story relates to repairing our hydraulic wood splitter. I was doing it outside in November and it was snowing big fluffy flakes so hard that my tools would disappear in a minute or so if I set them down. I managed to change the sprockets and chain and find most of the sockets etc. Randy B Chains and sprockets? Must be an antique. A guy in town has a Lickity-Splitter that split mechanically using inertia. It had all kinds of weird linkages and a spinning flywheel that the maul would make momentary contact with. It slammed its way through the wood. It had almost no safety features. BTW I just split about a cord with my Wife and our hydraulic splitter. Getting ready for next heating season early. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you say alignment bar could that be a very large screwdriver ? or is that a special tool ? Also, is there any other job that is good to do while you are replacing motor mounts. I have a recollection that it is a good time to do oil cooler lines. Or fix a leaking oil filter housing. Thanks, Dan Elliott The tool in question is tapered and round. Long tapered punches would work equally as well. If the cooler lines are leaking its a good time. The filter housing job is only easier if you're taking the cooler lines off to change them, otherwise it makes no difference. If you're little shock absorbers or their rubbers are shot, it would save time to change with the mounts. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood
BTW I just split about a cord with my Wife and our hydraulic splitter. Getting ready for next heating season early. We will run out of firewood today. I guess we came up a little short! This is the first time we've heated exclusively with wood. I've got lots of standing dead trees (beetle kills), but it's not really that dry. Hard to keep burning, very little heat. Sigh. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood
On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: We will run out of firewood today. I guess we came up a little short! This is the first time we've heated exclusively with wood. I've got lots of standing dead trees (beetle kills), but it's not really that dry. Hard to keep burning, very little heat. Sigh. -- Jim Split it and stack it real close to the stove, it will dry quite a bit in just a few days. I don't have a wood lot and have had to burn whatever I could get at times. Red Oak aka piss oak, even when split can take a couple of years to season. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] ...steaky never works for me!...using Firefox
Should act just like MS does as far as mousing. On 3/14/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll be happy to know I'm using Firefox...any suggestions there? (I try to avoid the MS thing.) Chris Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If using Internet Excrapper, right click and click save as and open in Adobe solo. IE is worthless with ALL pdf's as a plugin. Luther ~Yeah, I think it is a browser/browser setting issue. I've never been able to ~open a single page on either of those sites unless someone e-mails me the ~link. ~ ~ Uh, just thought of something - wonder if I e-mail myself the link, then, ~click on it from within an e-mailAHA - that might work. ~ ~ Chris -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area
Not knowing what is being picked up, this may or not help you, but you can have fedex or ups do a pick up at the location - only costs a few dollars more then to drop it off at shipping center. I have bought quite a few ebay items from sellers who didn't want to ship, but were fine with having the carrier come get it. Dave W - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area Can anyone in the SF bay area help me by picking up an item and delivering it to a shipping store?? Thanks in advance, Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr - I'm the complainer and here's why
Yeah, if I want to see barely legal butt crack, I just need to sit in class here at this Catholic University. Sadly, soft porn is all around us in real life in the way the women dress. I know, I'm being crass, don't fry me. I too saw that same pic on Frappr months ago. This time it had a message directed toward a list member. Wonder if it was someone who knows a list member, or just some random guy. Doesn't really matter to me, I'm just jabbering. Brian 83 240D On 3/14/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:09 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I complained about the girl - operative word - GIRL (i.e. not woman). I also brought it up to Chuck offlist. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood
We took a short trip to camp one time where we heated almost exclusively with pallets and wet poplar (quaking aspen). I'd get the stove roaring with the pallet wood and then stuff in the poplar. Worked pretty good but I burnt alot of pallets. Filled the Dakota and my little snowmobile trailer 6' high with 'em, burned it all in 3 days. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:43:58 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wood To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed BTW I just split about a cord with my Wife and our hydraulic splitter. Getting ready for next heating season early. We will run out of firewood today. I guess we came up a little short! This is the first time we've heated exclusively with wood. I've got lots of standing dead trees (beetle kills), but it's not really that dry. Hard to keep burning, very little heat. Sigh. -- Jim - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 19:21:53 2006 Received: from web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.42]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJF5c-0005kK-HG for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:21:52 + Received: (qmail 71295 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2006 19:21:48 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mvK/3R4OUhqor69zxD7b8FRNwFCEeJX+e50ZZ09riJuHygyhOHG2Dy2is6PQnX7SdZ55rrMHq96+nHS/kVRfmT/h2F6Fw4ou/JshvKPxq6w6nZOAd0/oBVeqPrAKF4df85Zyxw0kuIYGTumLAW25mTKqlLvEn+2VGyXzrWsn4Lk= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:21:48 PST Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:21:48 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:21:53 - As was mentioned before fuel economy is only part of the equation and in many cases a small part of that. My $1500 240D that I had at times to the Indy every month still came out pretty good because of its low initial cost. The guy that bought it from me has a Jetta and we just started running the numbers and realized he'd have to drive it over 100,000 miles with almost no repairs to come close to the cost per mile the 240D had given me... A franken car can come in really good on the economy scale if you can do some of the work yourself and aren't particularly choosy about looks. -Curt Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:56:44 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Anyway, are you buying a diesel Mercedes just for the fuel economy? No, not really. I needed a car, and this one was cheap and seemed pretty easy to work on. I was also hoping for *some* fuel savings, but this was back when diesel was running about the same price as midgrade. I'd be happy with a fuel cost per mile that was even *equal* to a gasoline car, now. I like diesels, but paying a cost per mile penalty to drive one makes little sense to me. My job requires me to put a lot of miles on the car and I'm reimbursed by the mile, so this hits me directly in the pocketbook. I'm not ready to get rid of the car yet, certainly. It's rusty enough that its resale value out here in the land of rust-free classics is pretty much zero, so my plan is to drive it into the ground. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 19:41:21 2006 Received: from host337.ipowerweb.com ([72.22.69.22]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJFOS-0007bm-0l for [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] ...steaky never works for me!...using Firefox
Spitze! Dankeschön, Luther. Kristof (German class tonight, gotta get in the mindset) LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should act just like MS does as far as mousing. On 3/14/06, Christopher McCann wrote: You'll be happy to know I'm using Firefox...any suggestions there? (I try to avoid the MS thing.) Chris Luther Gulseth wrote: If using Internet Excrapper, right click and click save as and open in Adobe solo. IE is worthless with ALL pdf's as a plugin. Luther ~Yeah, I think it is a browser/browser setting issue. I've never been able to ~open a single page on either of those sites unless someone e-mails me the ~link. ~ ~ Uh, just thought of something - wonder if I e-mail myself the link, then, ~click on it from within an e-mailAHA - that might work. ~ ~ Chris -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 14 20:11:08 2006 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.45]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJFrI-0002ez-AN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:11:08 + Received: from mac.com (smtpin03-en2 [10.13.10.148]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EKB5PF018038; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (ip68-2-210-120.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.210.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EKB2RC013394; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:11:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:11:02 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frappr - I'm the complainer and here's why X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:11:08 - Chris and all, I have sent a second complaint email to Frappr Help. As Benzbunch Administrator, I have not found any way to delete this. This person, G. Del'Abate from Bayonne (NJ), is NOT a member of Benzbunch and I'm not sure why this is appearing in our
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
David Brodbeck wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: Your talking about diesel engines designed 30+ years ago using 40-50 year old technology. Move into the 21st century! I'd love to, but the payments scare me off. ;) Diesel still makes a lot of sense when a midsized car get 35-40 mpg and a small car 50 mpg! Well...yes and no. Sure, you can get a midsize diesel that gets 35 mpg, but with diesel costing 30% more, you might as well get a midsize gasoline car that gets 25. You'll pay the same at the pump, and the initial purchase price will be lower for the gasser. The only reason to buy a diesel now is because they have a certain cachet, especially when run on biodiesel. It's essentially the same reason people buy hybrids. The maintenance of a diesel should cost about half that of a gasoline car and providing you don't let it die if old age (drive it less than 10-15kmi/year), most diesels will deliver twice the mileage before really major engine repairs should be required. Diesels become much less desirable when yearly mileage isn't 20-25kmi/yr or greater. Very few of the OM61x engines that are retired each year actually wear out. Many have succumbed to poor maintenance or they break and the owner chooses not to fix them. Many more are retired when the body or drive train deteriorate and the cost of repair exceeds the value of the vehicle. The present nearly 30% premium of diesel over gasoline won't endure (unless some idiot decides to raise the tax on diesel even higher) as the demand for fuel oil declines with the approach of spring and the demand for gasoline increases as the vacation season arrives. They'll be about equal then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] ...steaky never works for me!...using Firefox
Figure out how to save file as in FF and use that. The Adobe plugin isn't the greatest for reading PDF's. ~You'll be happy to know I'm using Firefox...any suggestions there? (I try to ~avoid the MS thing.) ~ ~ Chris ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt
It is a big home made unit that my father built in the late 70's ( I think ). Dad died in '83 so it was prior to that. It consists of a big hydraulic cylinder mounted on an I-beam etc. The hydraulic pump is powered by an 8HP BS via a sprocket and chain setup. No safety features on this one either which is one reason why we have not tried to sell it (since we really don't have much use for it now). I could put a guard around the chain setup so that silly people wouldn't remove their limbs I guess. Need to replace the hydraulic oil tank as well since I managed to inadvertantly drop a tree on it.It still works but has a rather pronounced dent. Another story for another time. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 82 300TDt On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:20 PM, R A Bennell wrote: My snow story relates to repairing our hydraulic wood splitter. I was doing it outside in November and it was snowing big fluffy flakes so hard that my tools would disappear in a minute or so if I set them down. I managed to change the sprockets and chain and find most of the sockets etc. Randy B Chains and sprockets? Must be an antique. A guy in town has a Lickity-Splitter that split mechanically using inertia. It had all kinds of weird linkages and a spinning flywheel that the maul would make momentary contact with. It slammed its way through the wood. It had almost no safety features. BTW I just split about a cord with my Wife and our hydraulic splitter. Getting ready for next heating season early. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___
Re: [MBZ] ...steaky never works for me!...using Firefox
Bitteschön. ~Spitze! Dankeschön, Luther. ~ ~ Kristof (German class tonight, gotta get in the mindset) ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Ot Need a favour in SF Bay area
Thanks for the idea Dave but this guy won't even put it in a box! I don't think the drivers will box it will they?? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
