Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

If you have a bag of tools that you have to carry, and also a firearm,
you might consider declaring the firearm. This requires TSA to search 
the
bag manually and be happy with it, then you lock it (nobody wants the 
liability of a declared weapon disappearing).


A whole new way to protect your property with guns!  (Anybody else
think the system is getting pretty stupid?)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

 Once I get it back in PA
it's an easy process to get it properly inspected, get the title
transferred and get new plates for it.


In WA you buy the $20 (might have changed) temporary trip permit and
tape it to the window.  If either state offers such a thing I'm sure
you'd be fine.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Kevin wrote:

You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do? Once I get it  
back in PA

it's an easy process to get it properly inspected, get the title
transferred and get new plates for it.


	Pa offers temporary cardboard tags. Perhaps Va does the same, call  
the DMV or dig up their website. If I buy a car far from home (I like  
Southern cars and live 150mi South of Montreal) I have the seller Fed- 
Ex the proper documentation and register it (but sometimes I borrow  
the plates and window stickers from one of my many MBs and drive it  
home like that). I've gotten pulled over for speeding and warned (for  
speeding) and the trooper didn't even look any further than the  
papers I handed him. I do what I have to do under the circumstances.
	BTW, Kevin obviously has no sense of adventure. I do and frequently  
fulfill my desire by driving used MBs thousands of miles at a clip. I  
used to carry it on the plane but that doesn't fly anymore.Nowadays,  
I ship a tool kit and some simple spares ie fuel filters,  
hoseclamps, silicone sealer, JB-Weld, and bailing wire to the  
location of the car. You wouldn't believe half of the stories I have  
but I'll tell you I drove every one of them all the way home.


	Didi anyone save Richarde's post stating that doing the above is the  
equivalent of a modern day mastodon hunt? Its a good analogy.



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 07:38:41PM -0400, John Berryman wrote:
   BTW, Kevin obviously has no sense of adventure. I do and frequently  
 fulfill my desire by driving used MBs thousands of miles at a clip. I  
 used to carry it on the plane but that doesn't fly anymore.Nowadays,  
 I ship a tool kit and some simple spares ie fuel filters,  
 hoseclamps, silicone sealer, JB-Weld, and bailing wire to the  
 location of the car. You wouldn't believe half of the stories I have  
 but I'll tell you I drove every one of them all the way home.

It's a little easier if the car has run recently. The part that had me
nervous is that the car seemed to have been sitting for a while unlicensed
and uninspected. 

I've driven a couple home that I wasn't so sure were going to make it. It
helps a LOT if you have a good feeling that you can trust the person you
are buying the car from.

K



Re: [MBZ] '88 126 Hesitation Problems and Intermittent Hard Start

2006-06-07 Thread Mark E. Peneguy
The below must have gotten lost in the transfer to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I wanted to be sure that Peter and Barry knew I 
appreciated their responses. --Mark

Peter:

Along with the other parts, I will consider the idle control valve hose 
as a possible culprit.  I found my receipt and you are correct, the idle 
control valve was replaced.  In addition to the idle control valve hose, 
I have not replaced the throttle position sensor (yet).

With regard to the smoke, the instance I reported was the one and only 
time I have seen it - since I bought the car in 1993.  I had the valve 
seals replaced, along with so much else, when I bought the car.  It has 
performed beautifully with no smoke, since.  Hopefully, that is not the 
issue, though it is something I will have taken under consideration.

Barry:

To have a pressure test on the fuel injection system couldn't hurt, I'm 
sure, particularly with the age of the engine.  Thanks for the suggestion.

With regard to the hard start, I have only noticed it when the engine is 
warm or has attained full operating temperature.  When the engine is 
cold, it seems to start with no trouble.

To all:

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate everyone's advice.  I wish I was 
as knowledgeable as you and could offer advice as you have to me. 
Everyone who has responded has been kind enough to give me one more 
thing to think about as the culprit and a direction in which I may need 
to go.

Mark
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  From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Most likely you have a leaking idle control valve hose (the idle 
control valve is what was replaced).
 
  Smoke is likely blue, from worn out valve guide seals, you are due 
for them.  They can make starting slow on a cold engine, since oil leaks 
down into the  combustion chamber and can coat the plugs.  Not a big 
job, but not free as it takes a couple hours.  The leaking idle control 
valve hoses can also make starting slow.
 
  Peter



  From: Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Mark -
  Before someone starts replacing parts I suggest that you have them do a
  pressure test on the fuel injection and make sure that the pressures 
are all
  in spec. BTW, when it doesn't start, is it only with a warm engine or 
when
  it is cold as well?
 
  Barry
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message.

2006-06-07 Thread OK Don

As predicted --- !!! 73.

On 6/6/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Kaleb will be clueless to that one.

Luther

OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

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[MBZ] 450SL Parts Car

2006-06-07 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, All.
  (Mass) WANT AD reads:- 1974 Mercedes 450SL. Parts or restore. Did run. No 
left dr or left fr fender. Some body rot. Has hdtop w/no glass. Gd for parts 
$300 (Ashby) 978-386-8698, (cell)978-265-8372.
  No Affilliation etc.
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  Diesel Rules!


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on 6/6/06 7:38 PM, John Berryman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 silicone sealer, JB-Weld, and bailing wire to the
 location of the ca

Ah, JB Weld. The Cadillac of imaginative auto repairs ;-).

I wish they sold it in bigger tubes. I go through a LOT.

Mac




Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/6/06 4:30 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but Mercedes 
 cares and insists that MBUSA support older cars (check out Mercedes-Benz
 Classics) or they'd have sold off the old inventory that's more than 10
 years old, taken the tax write off and left you to fend for yourself.

Yeah, ask the people with older Volvos (and not THAT old, by the way) about
that.

Ford tried the same trick with Jaguar but they reversed course fast and now
they seem to be with the game.

OTOH, Range Rover? The dealers actually order stuff on-line from the
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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/6/06 8:13 PM, Steve MacSween at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OTOH, Range Rover? The dealers actually order stuff on-line from the
 independent suppliers. RR is completely pointless as a corporate concern, at
 least here in Canada it is.

Just to be completely fair, I forgot a phrase here. That is, the dealers
have to order from independents for older, full-size models.

Mac




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Padlocking your baggage will result in the padlock being cut and things being 
stolen... The TSA has the right to search through your luggage all they want 
and padlocking it is really an invitation to them to violate you.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:00:15 -0400
From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kevin J. Slater wrote:

 You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do?

Depends, how responsible are you?  I'm young enough that it's still a 
little bit 
of fun to fly out with 60 pounds of tools in checked baggage 
(padlocked, of 
course) a cell phone, a little cash, a credit card, and little else 
other than a 
change of clothes and a sense of adventure.  The car will either make 
it, or it 
won't.  It'll either break down along the way, or it won't.  It'll 
either be 
something I can repair, jerryrig, or limp home without, or it won't.

More responsible individuals, on the other hand, tend to have better 
things to 
do with their time.  ;-)

-- 
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi
1980 300TD 180+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi
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Its amazing the variation between states, in MA you'd have gone directly to 
jail do not pass go they collect $200 (probably substatially more). When I 
bought my 240D it was in New Jersey. The dealership was entirely willing to 
issue temp tags once I put insurance on. A MA insurance company cannot insure a 
car without you getting a real MA tag. MA will not recognize temp tags of any 
kind, in theory (although I've never heard of it) somebody driving in MA with a 
temp tag can be pulled over, their car impounded and they can spend the night 
in jail... I checked this with the state, there is no reciprocity and no 
willingness to recognize other state's temp tags. Baffles me.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:05:16 -0400
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John Ervine wrote:

 More responsible individuals, on the other hand, tend to have better 
things to 
 do with their time.  ;-)

Forgot to add - all three trips were done sans license plates, but with 
valid 
insurance on the cars phoned in before I left.  Never had a second 
glance from 
any of the fine law enforcement personnel I encountered along the way.  
Some 
states offer temp tags, but Georgia is not one of them.  With 
insurance, a 
title, and a bill of sale, I felt I'd be just fine if any situation 
arose.

-- 
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi
1980 300TD 180+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi
1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
1972 220 

Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

Ah, JB Weld. The Cadillac of imaginative auto repairs ;-).


Don't forget the Shoe Goo.  Between the two of them I barely
use anything else.  (Some CA glue.  Oh, and various contact
cements and wood glues, but for misc repairs it's JB and SG
all the way!)


I wish they sold it in bigger tubes. I go through a LOT.


They do!  Mine are 5 oz tubes.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 450SL Parts Car

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
1974 Mercedes 450SL. Parts or restore. Did run. No left dr or left fr 
fender. Some body rot. Has hdtop w/no glass. Gd for parts $300


What a magnificent knock-around pickup truck that could make!
(Hauling yard waste around the property, etc.)  All the fun of
a Frankenheap, at a similar price, but with that beautiful 107
styling.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

It's a little easier if the car has run recently. The part that had me
nervous is that the car seemed to have been sitting for a while 
unlicensed

and uninspected.


The Mosier 240D could not have made it home, not easily anyway.
The bad wheel bearing would have stymied me on the road.  Everything
else keeping me from home could have been dealt with by toolkit
and FLAPS.  But who knows how long it would have taken me?
Given its (falsely) reported 'bad tranny' it would not have
been a wise bet.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 450SL Parts Car

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

What a magnificent knock-around pickup truck that could make!
(Hauling yard waste around the property, etc.)  All the fun of
a Frankenheap, at a similar price, but with that beautiful 107
styling.


A well-done (stretch) 107 pickup would be a real piece
of art.  Take a richer man than me to come up with one,
however!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 05:21:58PM -0700, Curt Raymond wrote:
 MA will not recognize temp tags of any kind, in theory (although I've 
 never heard of it) somebody driving in MA with a temp tag can be pulled 
 over, their car impounded and they can spend the night in jail... I 
 checked this with the state, there is no reciprocity and no willingness 
 to recognize other state's temp tags. Baffles me.

It is comforting to know that there are states out there that are more screwed
up than California. 

I believe the reasoning for impounding the vehicle is that there is no 
valid registration on the vehicle, so it cannot be legally insured according
to MA law, and because of the same law, it can be impounded. They do allow
for out of state visitors to drive out of state vehicles with valid 
registration though... 

How this isn't flipping the bird at the constitution is somewhat beyond me,
and belongs with a pile of legislation from California that will be really 
interesting if it gets appealed to federal appeals/supreme court.

K



Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

That is because there are not pages there, if you want to create some
pages, be my guest.  Some folks have jobs and receive no money for such
things, so such things are fit in when time allows.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work.

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways.  There 
are still a few bugs to work out.  Last I checked the june archives were 
not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. 
Other than that everthing seems to be working though.


Marshall Booth wrote:



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



If you are getting this they are working.




MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations!

Marshall









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Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

That is because there are not pages there, if you want to create some
pages, be my guest.  Some folks have jobs and receive no money for such
things, so such things are fit in when time allows.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work.

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways.  There 
are still a few bugs to work out.  Last I checked the june archives were 
not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. 
Other than that everthing seems to be working though.


Marshall Booth wrote:



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



If you are getting this they are working.




MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations!

Marshall









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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

root who

Luther Gulseth wrote:


root

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:



who failed?

Luther Gulseth wrote:



you failed yet again.

On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:





test












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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin
The root of all evil.

K

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:44:34PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 root who
 
 Luther Gulseth wrote:
  
  root
  
  Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
  
 who failed?
 
 Luther Gulseth wrote:
 
 
 you failed yet again.
 
 On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
 
 
 test



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Canfield

Can you get the seller to send you the title?  Mike
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Subject: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..



I'm in need of some advice. I have a car I want to buy that's located in
Virginia. It's been sitting for a while so it's not inspected and it
doesn't have plates. I live in PA and I'd like to drive it back. (Towing
isn't an option b/c of other complications for this trip.) I don't think I
can get plates for it in PA since I don't have the title. I don't think I
want to try to get plates in VA since that would entail paying a bunch of
fees that I'll just have to pay again in PA.

You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do? Once I get it back in PA
it's an easy process to get it properly inspected, get the title
transferred and get new plates for it.

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k miles


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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well you would need to see what the policy is concerning shipping which 
should be stated in the auction, that is the first thing to do.


archer wrote:

I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 
28.  EBay confirmed that the order had been placed.  It's been ten days and 
I haven't received the item.  I emailed the seller and received the usual 
form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't.
Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time?  This is my first 
purchase from EBay.

Thanks,
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D

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From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new.  When 
they
arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the 
$120

I paid for the disks.  Take that for his revenue.
Luther




Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:




Luther Gulseth wrote:


Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks..




Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being
violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues?
Mitch.




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'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82 300D  (74kmi needs block or engine)




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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You will be find to drive it back without plates, just have a bill of 
sale with you.


Kevin J. Slater wrote:


I'm in need of some advice. I have a car I want to buy that's located in
Virginia. It's been sitting for a while so it's not inspected and it
doesn't have plates. I live in PA and I'd like to drive it back. (Towing
isn't an option b/c of other complications for this trip.) I don't think I
can get plates for it in PA since I don't have the title. I don't think I
want to try to get plates in VA since that would entail paying a bunch of
fees that I'll just have to pay again in PA.

You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do? Once I get it back in PA
it's an easy process to get it properly inspected, get the title
transferred and get new plates for it.

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k miles




--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

o

Kevin wrote:


The root of all evil.

K



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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Well thank god I never buy cars from either state.

Mike Canfield wrote:


Kaleb,
  You almost got it rightHe would be finEd if he got caught in either 
Communistwealth of PA or VA driving with no tags, insurance or inspection. 
Bill of sale doesn't cut it in either.
  PA does have paper tags but you must have the title to get one.  No paper 
tag at all in VA anymore.  Tried that last summer.


Mike


--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty - Viton Return Lines]

2006-06-07 Thread Striplin Admin account



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty - Viton Return Lines
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:28:39 -0400
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I happened to be in need of return lines and gave it a shot.

These 2 have a rather thin wall and vibrate off the injectors:
 5102K12 Metric High-Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing, Firm, 4 Mm Id,
6 Mm Od, 1 Mm Wall $3.09/ft
5102K22 
Metric High-Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing, Hard, 4 Mm Id, 6 Mm Od, 1
Mm Wall $2.74/ft
You could probably make them work by surrounding the ends with a short
piece of larger hose, but that's more trouble than it is worth in my
book. I was attracted by the low price - bad idea.

Thses two fit very well and are snug:
 5119K31 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Firm, 1/8 Id, 5/16
Od, 3/32 Wall $6.00/ft
 5119K811 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Hard, 1/8 Id, 5/16
Od, 3/32 Wall $5.34/ft

The ones Luther quoted:
5119K111 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Hard, 1/8 Id, 1/4 Od,
1/16 Wall $3.22/ft
Are probably dead on. I went with the thicker wall just to be safe
since the tubing is not rated for pressure. The 1/8 wall thickness
would be too large and hit the body of the injector.

The hard version is a bit harder to pull off, but the firm seems to
hold pretty well too.
I don't know how the stuff ages to say if one is better than the other
long term. I used some of both. Remind me to tell you how they worked
in a few years. The above part numbers are from
http://www.mcmaster.com/ .

Hope this helps.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 5/23/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



3.2 mm injector return line
http://www.mcmaster.com/asp/enter.asp?partnum=5119K111+

7mm all purpose fuel line
http://www.mcmaster.com/asp/enter.asp?partnum=5119K49
1/4, slightly tighter than 7mm (0.2756)

Rusty may have a source for Viton in the proper size, I don't know.  If he
does, it'll be the better solution.

Luther


Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 If the injector return hoses are the only ones, then that is hardly worth
 making a package.
 I thought there were more hoses routinely effected.

 Bob Rentfro

 - Original Message -
 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty


  Injector fuel return hoses are the only ones that consistently give people
  trouble.  Apparently it's the combination of heat and bio that overwhelms
  them.
 
  On 5/23/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Forgive me Kaleb...I'm double-posting this 'cause I'm not sure if rusty
  looks at the Bio list.
  Let's say someone (Rusty) was going to make a
  these-are-the-hoses-that-usually-need-replacing-at-some-point-when-you-
start-running-bio
  kit. Which hoses would be included? It would be sweet to have them on
  hand
  in the trunk.
 
 
  Casey
  Olympia, WA
  Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
  '87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k)
  '84 300D (212k)
  Gashuffer:
  '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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[MBZ] [Fwd: 79 240D idle adjust stuck?]

2006-06-07 Thread Striplin Admin account



 Original Message 
Subject: 79 240D idle adjust stuck?
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 15:28:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When my son and I were in the process of starting that 79 240D that had
been sitting for about a year, he noticed that the idle adjuster on the
dash was 'frozen' in place. Is this common and what is the process to fix
it?

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k mi

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[MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-Mercedes-Benz-E300-PRISTINE-Condition_W0QQitemZ4647580398QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] 300E 5 speed

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300E-5-Speed-Rare-Low-Miles_W0QQitemZ4647631843QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] nice looking 220D

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-DIESEL-220-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4647829158QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] is there actually anybody in utah

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Mercedes-Benz-240-DSL-4-door-Sedan_W0QQitemZ4647579108QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote:
 on 6/6/06 4:30 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 but Mercedes 
 cares and insists that MBUSA support older cars (check out Mercedes-Benz
 Classics) or they'd have sold off the old inventory that's more than 10
 years old, taken the tax write off and left you to fend for yourself.
 
 Yeah, ask the people with older Volvos (and not THAT old, by the way) about
 that.

Or VW.  I used to have an '82 Vanagon.  Nearly all the parts for it that
weren't shared with other, more recent vehicles were listed as no longer
available.  The price of the remaining stock seems to go up
exponentially as it dwindles, too...I seem to recall a single cooling
hose unique to that vehicle being something like $400.



[MBZ] unobtanium, but on crack

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190D-2-5-5CYLINDER-DIESEL-1987-LOW-MILES_W0QQitemZ4647770328QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] Okiebenz Web Pages, was: Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread OK Don

Are you soliciting volunteers? (from someone who has not updated his
own MB project page in months)

You might get some positive responses from this group.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is because there are not pages there, if you want to create some
pages, be my guest.  Some folks have jobs and receive no money for such
things, so such things are fit in when time allows.

Luther Gulseth wrote:

 or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work.



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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message.

2006-06-07 Thread OK Don

Signal report - Readability, Strength, and Tone - you got a perfect score.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yep

Luther Gulseth wrote:


 Kaleb will be clueless to that one.

 Luther

 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Signal report is 599


--
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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



[MBZ] NASTY

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-DIPLOMAT-NASTY-PROJECT-RARE-MAY-DELIVER_W0QQitemZ4647813190QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Web Pages, was: Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
volunteers are always nice.  I had a hard enough time setting up what is 
already there.  I really need to get the articles up, which I have a 
bunch of stuff saved, but have not had time. It will get done eventually 
I suppose.


OK Don wrote:


Are you soliciting volunteers? (from someone who has not updated his
own MB project page in months)

You might get some positive responses from this group.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That is because there are not pages there, if you want to create some
pages, be my guest.  Some folks have jobs and receive no money for such
things, so such things are fit in when time allows.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work.






--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty - Viton Return Lines]

2006-06-07 Thread OK Don

Good information Dave, thanks for doing the short term research - I'm
sure someone will remember to ask again in a few years -   I won't
remember what to ask  ;-)

I wonder if Rusty will carry it, so we'll have one-stop-shopping, or
will he wait the couple of years for the longevity report?

On 6/6/06, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty - Viton Return Lines
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:28:39 -0400
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I happened to be in need of return lines and gave it a shot.

These 2 have a rather thin wall and vibrate off the injectors:
  5102K12 Metric High-Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing, Firm, 4 Mm Id,
6 Mm Od, 1 Mm Wall $3.09/ft
5102K22
Metric High-Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing, Hard, 4 Mm Id, 6 Mm Od, 1
Mm Wall $2.74/ft
You could probably make them work by surrounding the ends with a short
piece of larger hose, but that's more trouble than it is worth in my
book. I was attracted by the low price - bad idea.

Thses two fit very well and are snug:
  5119K31 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Firm, 1/8 Id, 5/16
Od, 3/32 Wall $6.00/ft
  5119K811 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Hard, 1/8 Id, 5/16
Od, 3/32 Wall $5.34/ft

The ones Luther quoted:
5119K111 High Temperature Viton Rubber Tubing Hard, 1/8 Id, 1/4 Od,
1/16 Wall $3.22/ft
Are probably dead on. I went with the thicker wall just to be safe
since the tubing is not rated for pressure. The 1/8 wall thickness
would be too large and hit the body of the injector.

The hard version is a bit harder to pull off, but the firm seems to
hold pretty well too.
I don't know how the stuff ages to say if one is better than the other
long term. I used some of both. Remind me to tell you how they worked
in a few years. The above part numbers are from
http://www.mcmaster.com/ .

Hope this helps.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300


--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread LT Don

I will watch the auction, but I also have a lead on a nice 190D in Des
Moines that has an asking price of $1800. Might have to go give that one a
look. The 190D would be a Deb Car.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-Mercedes-Benz-E300-PRISTINE-Condition_W0QQitemZ4647580398QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
  85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
  76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
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Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Luther Gulseth

I'm dying to find a good deal I can do this with.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:00:15 -0500, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Kevin J. Slater wrote:


You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do?


Depends, how responsible are you?  I'm young enough that it's still a  
little bit
of fun to fly out with 60 pounds of tools in checked baggage (padlocked,  
of
course) a cell phone, a little cash, a credit card, and little else  
other than a
change of clothes and a sense of adventure.  The car will either make  
it, or it
won't.  It'll either break down along the way, or it won't.  It'll  
either be

something I can repair, jerryrig, or limp home without, or it won't.

More responsible individuals, on the other hand, tend to have better  
things to

do with their time.  ;-)





--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread OK Don

What happened to the 420E (or E420 - who can keep track?) ?

Debbie needs more class than a 190 -- at least a 124, probably a 126.

On 6/6/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I will watch the auction, but I also have a lead on a nice 190D in Des
Moines that has an asking price of $1800. Might have to go give that one a
look. The 190D would be a Deb Car.



--
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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] nice looking 220D

2006-06-07 Thread Bob Rentfro

Hasn't had tags for a year...and what is up with the 240D badge?
But my favorite part is where seller sez, transmission may not be perfect 
but the rest of the car makes up for it.
Never thought of things that way...Now I don't feel so bad now that my AC 
doesn't work all the time because my headrests are perfect.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K
Dust Storm-ville, AZ

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: [MBZ] nice looking 220D



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-DIESEL-220-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4647829158QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Luther Gulseth

then remove the links.  A web page sucks when it has dead links.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:44:22 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



That is because there are not pages there, if you want to create some
pages, be my guest.  Some folks have jobs and receive no money for such
things, so such things are fit in when time allows.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work.

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:






--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message.

2006-06-07 Thread Luther Gulseth

QSL, signal here is 599 w/9+40 noise...

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:30:17 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Signal report - Readability, Strength, and Tone - you got a perfect  
score.


On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yep

Luther Gulseth wrote:


 Kaleb will be clueless to that one.

 Luther

 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Signal report is 599






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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 6, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Donald Snook wrote:


Kevin S. wrote:



I'm in need of some advice. I have a car I want to buy that's located
in Virginia.


	What's the story on the car? What is it? Is it in decent shape and  
recently driven? Do you plan on buying sight unseen? Do you intend to  
whip it right into service? How many miles are you going to need to  
drive to get home?

Maybe you can get the seller to drive it to your joint.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread LT Don

The E420 is still out there. If Gene or I don't buy it, I will be listing it
on eBay for the owner. The E420 would require a bank loan, while the 190D
could be had by writing out a check. BIG difference there!

On 6/6/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What happened to the 420E (or E420 - who can keep track?) ?

Debbie needs more class than a 190 -- at least a 124, probably a 126.

On 6/6/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will watch the auction, but I also have a lead on a nice 190D in Des
 Moines that has an asking price of $1800. Might have to go give that one
a
 look. The 190D would be a Deb Car.


--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen


Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Nothing baffling about it.  The Commonwealth of MA is just that -- 
making everyone's wealth common by extorting as much of it as they can 
in any way possible to redistribute to the legislature.


--R (formerly a Bay Statah, now a Texan)

Curt Raymond wrote:


Its amazing the variation between states, in MA you'd have gone directly to 
jail do not pass go they collect $200 (probably substatially more). When I 
bought my 240D it was in New Jersey. The dealership was entirely willing to 
issue temp tags once I put insurance on. A MA insurance company cannot insure a 
car without you getting a real MA tag. MA will not recognize temp tags of any 
kind, in theory (although I've never heard of it) somebody driving in MA with a 
temp tag can be pulled over, their car impounded and they can spend the night 
in jail... I checked this with the state, there is no reciprocity and no 
willingness to recognize other state's temp tags. Baffles me.
  
 -Curt
  
 

 






Re: [MBZ] nice looking 220D

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, that is strange

Bob Rentfro wrote:

Hasn't had tags for a year...and what is up with the 240D badge?
But my favorite part is where seller sez, transmission may not be perfect 
but the rest of the car makes up for it.
Never thought of things that way...Now I don't feel so bad now that my AC 
doesn't work all the time because my headrests are perfect.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K
Dust Storm-ville, AZ

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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: [MBZ] nice looking 220D




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91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

what year is the 190D?

LT Don wrote:


I will watch the auction, but I also have a lead on a nice 190D in Des
Moines that has an asking price of $1800. Might have to go give that one a
look. The 190D would be a Deb Car.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-Mercedes-Benz-E300-PRISTINE-Condition_W0QQitemZ4647580398QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Thanks, you have been a big help.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


then remove the links.  A web page sucks when it has dead links.



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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

So whats the deal with the E420?  Details

LT Don wrote:


The E420 is still out there. If Gene or I don't buy it, I will be listing it
on eBay for the owner. The E420 would require a bank loan, while the 190D
could be had by writing out a check. BIG difference there!

On 6/6/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What happened to the 420E (or E420 - who can keep track?) ?

Debbie needs more class than a 190 -- at least a 124, probably a 126.

On 6/6/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I will watch the auction, but I also have a lead on a nice 190D in Des
Moines that has an asking price of $1800. Might have to go give that one


a


look. The 190D would be a Deb Car.



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Norman, OK
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exhausted all the alternatives.
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] [Fwd: Ignition replacement for W126]

2006-06-07 Thread Striplin Admin account



 Original Message 
Subject:Ignition replacement for W126
Date:   Tue, 6 Jun 2006 20:45:49 -0700
From:   Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Can someone please tell me where the procedure resides in the CD manual,
for RR-ing the ignition tumbler in an '82 W126?  My neighbor down the
street just bought an '82 300SD and was warned not to remove the
ignition key, lest he never be able to turn the tumbler again...he
removed the key.  Apparently he has a new tumbler, but his key won't
turn in the existing tumbler anymore.   I cannot for the life of me find
the procedure anywhere at the braingears site.  Help!

--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (215k)
'84 300D (213k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/sideview-2_5-29-06.jpg




Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Luther Gulseth

All for my good buddy Kaleb.
How's my SDL?

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:46:16 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Thanks, you have been a big help.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


then remove the links.  A web page sucks when it has dead links.







--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: 79 240D idle adjust stuck?]

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

When my son and I were in the process of starting that 79 240D that had
been sitting for about a year, he noticed that the idle adjuster on the
dash was 'frozen' in place. Is this common and what is the process to 
fix

it?


Common, very very common.  I removed mine, cable and all, and soaked
it in oil.  IIRC I sucked oil through the cable sheath as well using
vacuum.  Slicked it right up, works great.  Didn't need to replace
it with the junkyard unit, which is now saved for future use.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 6, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

The TSA will safeguard the flying public and anyone on the ground  
below
by cutting open your bag/lock if it has a padlock on it.  How many  
tools
survive that experience is questionable.  They like to rummage  
around in

bags that have anything solid in them (i.e., non-clothes items).

--R



	This is why I ship UPS, Fed-Ex, etc. I sometimes ship my luggage and  
personal effects to travel destinations and travel real light on the  
plane. I had my luggage misplaced and as a result, had to spend a  
couple of days in a hotel in New Orleans. On the airline's tab,  
meals  and drinks included.
	This was when I bought a 300CD from Jason Stearn. It was the day  
after Christmas 2001 when I flew out, they had just started checking  
peoples shoes for explosives. I was checked. Being right after  
9/11/01 their was a lot of tension regarding security. I knew I  
was'nt getting on the plane carrying tools and license plates. All  
legal paperwork and stickers were in there too. I NEVER, EVER
checked luggage up to then and since. The airline delivered it to the  
hotel intact.
	It was an adventure from the start. There was noise, sounded like  
the diff was gonna blow, it didn't change no matter how I hammered it  
so I sucked it and kept moving. I'm heading out of Baton Rouge to the  
Adirondack Region of NY (note the date). I did'nt realize that  
there's no heat until...yup, you got it. There right rear caliper  
blew. Brakes, who needs 'em?
	I'm running all Interstates all 90-95mph until Tennessee, they'll  
tolerate 80-85 in a 75. The driver's seat is shot, BAD and there's a  
nasty winter storm coming. If I drive straight through, with no sleep  
I can miss the worst of it. Did I mention window regulator broke  
leaving  the window jammed in a cocked position? Well any way, I'll  
have some nice crisp air to help keep me awake, no time to fix, gotta  
beat the storm. Worn Michelin MXVs don't do much on snow and ice.
	You should always behave while driving through Virginia, somehow  
this always slips my mind. The weather got uncooperative in Northern  
Va. and stayed that way for the duration of the adventure. It was a  
weak attempt at a Wintery Mix but still enough to keep one from  
becoming bored riding on those skins. The Norther I go the Colder and  
icier it gets. I'm getting a hint of warm air to the defroster vents  
so I had some de-icing capability and a somewhat clear area for  
forward vision most of the time.
	 I- 81 through Pa was no day at the beach, the icy hilly roads are  
unforgiving and cause massive pile-ups, often with resultant  
fatalities. Those familiar can give testimony to that. Fate would  
have it, as I crest a hill I see about 1/4mile ahead that there's a  
car on its side , half on the median and two young guys who stopped  
to help. I was driving way ahead of myself and keeping the speed real  
sane but it was a real challenge to get her stopped on front brakes  
only and those lovely tires.
	The kids waved me on saying help was on the way and no one was  
seriously injured. In my mirror, I watch a 17 car pile-up as I drive  
off, I heard the number on the news. There were two more pile-ups  
which I was able to navigate around to avoid being the next crushed car.
	Finally I hit the NY border and settle into a good groove, only 3  
1/2 hours from home and my Sugar Pie. Now that the Demo-Derby on ice  
is far behind me, I realize it's colder than a mother-in-laws kiss  
and my feet are numb. I stop in Binghampton for fuel and drive the  
rest of the way home with sweaters wrapped around my legs.
	We're real generous with the salt up here and this coupe had no idea  
what she was being driven into, as she spent her rust-free life  
between SoCal and The Big Easy. She hasn't seen road salt since that  
night. The rest of the ride was relatively uneventful.
	I got in before the brunt of the storm and awoke the next morning to  
18 of snow. I'm always happy to be home after my many sojourns but I  
was ecstatic after this one.
	Aside for the few mechanical inconveniences I mentioned earlier, I  
had no mechanical trouble, no need to pick up a single tool. The  
horrendous sound that I listened to, trying to ignore all the way  
home wound up being a broken tranny mount.



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:11:23 -0400 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Bill and Mike,
 Think I'll follow your suggestion, Mike, since EBay/Paypal will probably
 contact the seller  and the seller will then email me.  Hopefully the
 seller  will answer my second email and I won't have to contact
 EBay/Paypal.

Contact the seller through the eBay system -- use the ask the seller a
question link on the auction -- that way you'll have a paper trail that
eBay has ready access to in case you need to open a dispute.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-06-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:44:34 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

rooty-toot-toot

 root who
 
 Luther Gulseth wrote:
  
  root
  
  Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
  
 who failed?



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela who was towed home 8 miles and fixed in 
the

garage because the valves were just WAAAY too tight to get her started.


I bet a 7-mile tow-start would have warmed it up enough to get her
started before you were actually home.

-- Jim




[MBZ] Rube Goldberg would be proud

2006-06-07 Thread John Berryman


http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/honda.php



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread kevin kraly

I bet a 7-mile tow-start would have warmed it up enough to get her
started before you were actually home.

I was thinkin' about having the AAA guy tow it rear wheels down and hopping 
into the driver's seat to do the tow-start procedure.  That would have been 
more fun, and if it would have run on its own, it could have been DRIVEN 
into the garage rather than being TOWED into the driveway and PUSHED the 
rest of the way into the garage.


Kwcin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 





Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:11:44PM -0400, John Berryman wrote:
 Maybe you can get the seller to drive it to your joint.

Generally if the seller is willing to drive the car to you for
expenses and a plane ticket, AND he's nowhere as insane as you, you
have good odds of getting it home.

K



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:45:27PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
 I'm dying to find a good deal I can do this with.

Done it twice with reasonable deals on decently running vehicles, would
consider it again for the road trip for another reasonably running
vehicle.

First was seattle to home (about 30 miles south of san francisco) with a
190D five speed with a badly horked transmission. Second was Nashville to
home with an 87 300D with a cracked head. Both trips were a lot of fun. 

K



Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Ignition replacement for W126]

2006-06-07 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Striplin Admin account wrote:
 Can someone please tell me where the procedure resides in the CD manual,
 for RR-ing the ignition tumbler in an '82 W126?  My neighbor down the
 street just bought an '82 300SD and was warned not to remove the
 ignition key, lest he never be able to turn the tumbler again...he
 removed the key.  Apparently he has a new tumbler, but his key won't
 turn in the existing tumbler anymore.   I cannot for the life of me find
 the procedure anywhere at the braingears site.  Help!

You need to turn the tumbler to a certain position first, and that's the 
rub.  Otherwise it's VERY difficult involving some precision drilling so 
you can unthread the collar... You could just trash things and wind up 
replacing the steering lock and possibly the column  There's a reason 
that so few of them are stolen via hot-wiring.

Sounds like a $50 car for K :) 
-j.






Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees

2006-06-07 Thread John W. Reames III
I thought the modern (XJ/1984-2001) cherokees were lighter, I seem to 
recall that they were 3000-3100lbs, where the Full Size jeeps (earlier 
cherokees/wagoneers, and grand cherokee/wagoneer through 1993 (SJ body 
style)) were in the 4500lb neighborhood... 

Those I-6's are pretty respectable :) Just replaced an oil pump on one 
(total failure) and it's still ticking away

-j.




Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread archer
Under feedback I found a category marked contact seller and sent him a 
copy of the email I sent him yesterday.  This was a direct purchase, not a 
bid, and I couldn't find a category marked ask the seller a question.  I'm 
sure its there; I just couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info 
Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]




On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:11:23 -0400 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks, Bill and Mike,
Think I'll follow your suggestion, Mike, since EBay/Paypal will probably
contact the seller  and the seller will then email me.  Hopefully the
seller  will answer my second email and I won't have to contact
EBay/Paypal.


Contact the seller through the eBay system -- use the ask the seller a
question link on the auction -- that way you'll have a paper trail that
eBay has ready access to in case you need to open a dispute.


Craig





Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access- tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]

2006-06-07 Thread archer
This was a purchase from the store, not from the auction.  I didn't see 
any shipping info when I ordered it; (which doesn't mean it wasn't there, of 
course.)  The sellers website doesn't give any information on shipping; 
(probably not until an order is placed.)  I've left a message for them on 
EBay under contact seller.

Thanks,
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access- 
tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]




Well you would need to see what the policy is concerning shipping which
should be stated in the auction, that is the first thing to do.

archer wrote:

I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on 
May
28.  EBay confirmed that the order had been placed.  It's been ten days 
and

I haven't received the item.  I emailed the seller and received the usual
form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they 
didn't.
Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time?  This is my 
first

purchase from EBay.
Thanks,
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D





Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread archer
Kansas and Missouri issues the tags to the persons instead of the cars? 
That way an individual could drive several different cars using one tag.  In 
order to do that in most states, you would have to have a dealers tag AFAIK.

Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I just did something similar.  I brought the license plate to my other
car.  In Kansas and Missouri you can transfer plates.  So, you put one
of your other plates on. If you get pulled over you tell them you just
bought the car and show them all the paperwork you have.  Should be
fine.
Donald H. Snook





Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Dave Wakin
I had a similar trip to VA to pick up a 87 300SDL I bought years ago. It was 
February when I went down, and I too discovered as I headed north home to NY 
that I had no heat. I  watched the outside temp gauge go from around 50 in 
southern VA to -2 when I got home. I shivered for hours.


Dave W




This is why I ship UPS, Fed-Ex, etc. I sometimes ship my luggage and
personal effects to travel destinations and travel real light on the
plane. I had my luggage misplaced and as a result, had to spend a
couple of days in a hotel in New Orleans. On the airline's tab,
meals  and drinks included.
This was when I bought a 300CD from Jason Stearn. It was the day
after Christmas 2001 when I flew out, they had just started checking
peoples shoes for explosives. I was checked. Being right after
9/11/01 their was a lot of tension regarding security. I knew I
was'nt getting on the plane carrying tools and license plates. All
legal paperwork and stickers were in there too. I NEVER, EVER
checked luggage up to then and since. The airline delivered it to the
hotel intact.
It was an adventure from the start. There was noise, sounded like
the diff was gonna blow, it didn't change no matter how I hammered it
so I sucked it and kept moving. I'm heading out of Baton Rouge to the
Adirondack Region of NY (note the date). I did'nt realize that
there's no heat until...yup, you got it. There right rear caliper
blew. Brakes, who needs 'em?
I'm running all Interstates all 90-95mph until Tennessee, they'll
tolerate 80-85 in a 75. The driver's seat is shot, BAD and there's a
nasty winter storm coming. If I drive straight through, with no sleep
I can miss the worst of it. Did I mention window regulator broke
leaving  the window jammed in a cocked position? Well any way, I'll
have some nice crisp air to help keep me awake, no time to fix, gotta
beat the storm. Worn Michelin MXVs don't do much on snow and ice.
You should always behave while driving through Virginia, somehow
this always slips my mind. The weather got uncooperative in Northern
Va. and stayed that way for the duration of the adventure. It was a
weak attempt at a Wintery Mix but still enough to keep one from
becoming bored riding on those skins. The Norther I go the Colder and
icier it gets. I'm getting a hint of warm air to the defroster vents
so I had some de-icing capability and a somewhat clear area for
forward vision most of the time.
I- 81 through Pa was no day at the beach, the icy hilly roads are
unforgiving and cause massive pile-ups, often with resultant
fatalities. Those familiar can give testimony to that. Fate would
have it, as I crest a hill I see about 1/4mile ahead that there's a
car on its side , half on the median and two young guys who stopped
to help. I was driving way ahead of myself and keeping the speed real
sane but it was a real challenge to get her stopped on front brakes
only and those lovely tires.
The kids waved me on saying help was on the way and no one was
seriously injured. In my mirror, I watch a 17 car pile-up as I drive
off, I heard the number on the news. There were two more pile-ups
which I was able to navigate around to avoid being the next crushed car.
Finally I hit the NY border and settle into a good groove, only 3
1/2 hours from home and my Sugar Pie. Now that the Demo-Derby on ice
is far behind me, I realize it's colder than a mother-in-laws kiss
and my feet are numb. I stop in Binghampton for fuel and drive the
rest of the way home with sweaters wrapped around my legs.
We're real generous with the salt up here and this coupe had no idea
what she was being driven into, as she spent her rust-free life
between SoCal and The Big Easy. She hasn't seen road salt since that
night. The rest of the ride was relatively uneventful.
I got in before the brunt of the storm and awoke the next morning to
18 of snow. I'm always happy to be home after my many sojourns but I
was ecstatic after this one.
Aside for the few mechanical inconveniences I mentioned earlier, I
had no mechanical trouble, no need to pick up a single tool. The
horrendous sound that I listened to, trying to ignore all the way
home wound up being a broken tranny mount.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread LT Don

As in, what is the car like or what are my intentions regarding it?

It is out of your price range by about $6000, Kaleb.

On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So whats the deal with the E420?  Details






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There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies.
-- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_

1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen


Re: [MBZ] 123 rear window seal

2006-06-07 Thread BillR
They replaced the front and rear glass in my 300SD. Insurance job so no
choice, and also no problems.  Rear glass [with a newly rebuilt ledge] took
about 3.5 hours as I suspect the rebuild was not exactly to factory spec.
No arguments or extra fees.
BillR
Jacksonville FL   
1981 300SD   EM  276k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ben Karp
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:21 PM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 123 rear window seal

I just spoke to Safelite, they said they could replace the glass, seal and
guarantee the work for life for $340!
Sounds too good to be true, I could sell the 2 pieces of glass I have and
come out ok.
I did have them replace a windshield on a civic, which leaked and was
replaced again for free.
Any experience with them... anyone?
Ben

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 15:34:12 -0400
 From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
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 One of my colleagues brought their 560SL into Lightning only to have 
 it returned to them with a torn and heavily damaged dash. Lightning 
 called it unavoidable damage and refused to accept responsibility 
 for the damage. I have heard good things about Triumph Auto Glass in 
 Lilburn off Hwy 29 but have not used them personally. Finding a good 
 glass shop is like finding a good alignment shop. They are far and few in
between.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin J. Slater

David Brodbeck said:
 Marshall Booth wrote:
 Have you contacted PennDOT?

 I'm pretty sure there IS a way to do what you want, but I can't recall
 what it is.


 When I bought a car in Pennsylvania, I was able to get a temporary
 cardboard plate.  I went with the seller to the local AAA office and
 they took care of it.  They also notarized the title and bill of sale.
 One stop shopping!

That would be great, but I'm buying a car in Virginia and will be bringing
it back to Pennsylvania (travelling through the Peoples Republic of
Maryland for a short distance on the way).

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k mi



Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin J. Slater

John Ervine said:
 John Ervine wrote:

 More responsible individuals, on the other hand, tend to have better
 things to
 do with their time.  ;-)

 Forgot to add - all three trips were done sans license plates, but with
 valid
 insurance on the cars phoned in before I left.  Never had a second glance
 from
 any of the fine law enforcement personnel I encountered along the way.
 Some
 states offer temp tags, but Georgia is not one of them.  With insurance, a
 title, and a bill of sale, I felt I'd be just fine if any situation arose.

And maybe THAT'S a better approach then what I've been toying with; which
is to take the PA plate off my 87 wagon and put that on the 79 240D for
the trip back.

Complications for this retrieval are that I'm going to be in the area with
my family camping (so that rules out trailering it back since the popup
camper will be attached to the Trailblazer) and I don't want to make
another trip down there just to pick up a car. Also, the sale isn't
complete yet. I have given the seller some hand money to hold it, but I
don't have the title, etc.

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k mi



Re: [MBZ] '88 126 Hesitation Problems and Intermittent Hard Start

2006-06-07 Thread M.Afzaal Khan
Hi.  One of the causes for hard start, warm or hot is a failing fuel 
accumulator, so along with a fuel filter change should be good proactive 
maintainance

regards
mak

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The below must have gotten lost in the transfer to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I wanted to be sure that Peter and Barry knew I
appreciated their responses. --Mark

Peter:

Along with the other parts, I will consider the idle control valve hose
as a possible culprit.  I found my receipt and you are correct, the idle
control valve was replaced.  In addition to the idle control valve hose,
I have not replaced the throttle position sensor (yet).

With regard to the smoke, the instance I reported was the one and only
time I have seen it - since I bought the car in 1993.  I had the valve
seals replaced, along with so much else, when I bought the car.  It has
performed beautifully with no smoke, since.  Hopefully, that is not the
issue, though it is something I will have taken under consideration.

Barry:

To have a pressure test on the fuel injection system couldn't hurt, I'm
sure, particularly with the age of the engine.  Thanks for the suggestion.

With regard to the hard start, I have only noticed it when the engine is
warm or has attained full operating temperature.  When the engine is
cold, it seems to start with no trouble.

To all:

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate everyone's advice.  I wish I was
as knowledgeable as you and could offer advice as you have to me.
Everyone who has responded has been kind enough to give me one more
thing to think about as the culprit and a direction in which I may need
to go.

Mark
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 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Most likely you have a leaking idle control valve hose (the idle
control valve is what was replaced).

 Smoke is likely blue, from worn out valve guide seals, you are due
for them.  They can make starting slow on a cold engine, since oil leaks
down into the  combustion chamber and can coat the plugs.  Not a big
job, but not free as it takes a couple hours.  The leaking idle control
valve hoses can also make starting slow.

 Peter



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 Mark -
 Before someone starts replacing parts I suggest that you have them do a
 pressure test on the fuel injection and make sure that the pressures
are all
 in spec. BTW, when it doesn't start, is it only with a warm engine or
when
 it is cold as well?

 Barry
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Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
And maybe THAT'S a better approach then what I've been toying with; 
which

is to take the PA plate off my 87 wagon and put that on the 79 240D for
the trip back.


Risky!  Impoundment if they catch on, no doubt.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
That would be great, but I'm buying a car in Virginia and will be 
bringing

it back to Pennsylvania (travelling through the Peoples Republic of
Maryland for a short distance on the way).


Maybe you should just paint Please stop me, I'm DYING to pay
some road tax down both sides...

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
I had a similar trip to VA to pick up a 87 300SDL I bought years ago. 
It was
February when I went down, and I too discovered as I headed north home 
to NY
that I had no heat. I  watched the outside temp gauge go from around 
50 in

southern VA to -2 when I got home. I shivered for hours.


Time for a quick roadside stop to unplug the monovalve and temporarily
remove its insert to make sure it's not waterlogged.  (So it'll be
open when reassembled and probably stay that way for a bit.)  All
you need is a flatblade screwdriver.

126 bandaid tip #14C.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
First was seattle to home (about 30 miles south of san francisco) with 
a

190D five speed with a badly horked transmission.


What horkage is a 190D manual transmission (a 124 model part) subject
to?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Part of that trip reminds me of a trip I took from State College to
Virginia Beach one night while attending Penn State. The rest of my family
was down there at a house along the beach and I wanted to join them. My
car at the time was an old Austin Marina 4 door, 4 cylinder, 4 speed.
Sometime after I left I lost the brakes or at least most of them. Since I
was driving in the very early morning during the week on mostly 2 lane
roads through the countryside, I made it without incident. REALLY STUPID,
REALLY FORTUNATE (God's grace if you ask me) and I hope my own kids are
smarter than that.

...Kevin

John Berryman said:

   This is why I ship UPS, Fed-Ex, etc. I sometimes ship my luggage and
 personal effects to travel destinations and travel real light on the
 plane. I had my luggage misplaced and as a result, had to spend a
 couple of days in a hotel in New Orleans. On the airline's tab,
 meals  and drinks included.
   This was when I bought a 300CD from Jason Stearn. It was the day
 after Christmas 2001 when I flew out, they had just started checking
 peoples shoes for explosives. I was checked. Being right after
 9/11/01 their was a lot of tension regarding security. I knew I
 was'nt getting on the plane carrying tools and license plates. All
 legal paperwork and stickers were in there too. I NEVER, EVER
 checked luggage up to then and since. The airline delivered it to the
 hotel intact.
   It was an adventure from the start. There was noise, sounded like
 the diff was gonna blow, it didn't change no matter how I hammered it
 so I sucked it and kept moving. I'm heading out of Baton Rouge to the
 Adirondack Region of NY (note the date). I did'nt realize that
 there's no heat until...yup, you got it. There right rear caliper
 blew. Brakes, who needs 'em?
   I'm running all Interstates all 90-95mph until Tennessee, they'll
 tolerate 80-85 in a 75. The driver's seat is shot, BAD and there's a
 nasty winter storm coming. If I drive straight through, with no sleep
 I can miss the worst of it. Did I mention window regulator broke
 leaving  the window jammed in a cocked position? Well any way, I'll
 have some nice crisp air to help keep me awake, no time to fix, gotta
 beat the storm. Worn Michelin MXVs don't do much on snow and ice.
   You should always behave while driving through Virginia, somehow
 this always slips my mind. The weather got uncooperative in Northern
 Va. and stayed that way for the duration of the adventure. It was a
 weak attempt at a Wintery Mix but still enough to keep one from
 becoming bored riding on those skins. The Norther I go the Colder and
 icier it gets. I'm getting a hint of warm air to the defroster vents
 so I had some de-icing capability and a somewhat clear area for
 forward vision most of the time.
I- 81 through Pa was no day at the beach, the icy hilly roads are
 unforgiving and cause massive pile-ups, often with resultant
 fatalities. Those familiar can give testimony to that. Fate would
 have it, as I crest a hill I see about 1/4mile ahead that there's a
 car on its side , half on the median and two young guys who stopped
 to help. I was driving way ahead of myself and keeping the speed real
 sane but it was a real challenge to get her stopped on front brakes
 only and those lovely tires.
   The kids waved me on saying help was on the way and no one was
 seriously injured. In my mirror, I watch a 17 car pile-up as I drive
 off, I heard the number on the news. There were two more pile-ups
 which I was able to navigate around to avoid being the next crushed car.
   Finally I hit the NY border and settle into a good groove, only 3
 1/2 hours from home and my Sugar Pie. Now that the Demo-Derby on ice
 is far behind me, I realize it's colder than a mother-in-laws kiss
 and my feet are numb. I stop in Binghampton for fuel and drive the
 rest of the way home with sweaters wrapped around my legs.
   We're real generous with the salt up here and this coupe had no idea
 what she was being driven into, as she spent her rust-free life
 between SoCal and The Big Easy. She hasn't seen road salt since that
 night. The rest of the ride was relatively uneventful.
   I got in before the brunt of the storm and awoke the next morning to
 18 of snow. I'm always happy to be home after my many sojourns but I
 was ecstatic after this one.
   Aside for the few mechanical inconveniences I mentioned earlier, I
 had no mechanical trouble, no need to pick up a single tool. The
 horrendous sound that I listened to, trying to ignore all the way
 home wound up being a broken tranny mount.


 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] is there actually anybody in utah

2006-06-07 Thread Loren Faeth
There are apparently a few people that are not in Nauvoo.   Utah vehicles 
tend to be rusty even though the climate is dry.  Salt in the dirt.




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Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm is it a commonwealth thing? MA is a commonwealth too.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 22:04:30 -0400
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Kaleb,
  You almost got it rightHe would be finEd if he got caught in 
either 
Communistwealth of PA or VA driving with no tags, insurance or 
inspection. 
Bill of sale doesn't cut it in either.
  PA does have paper tags but you must have the title to get one.  No 
paper 
tag at all in VA anymore.  Tried that last summer.

Mike


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Not sure if this has been completely answered yet...
 
I live in PA and I picked up my car in Boston with a Maine title.  Have the 
owner send you the title, take it to any tag place in PA and get a licence 
plate.  Take the plate with you when you go to pick up the car.  Put insurance 
on the car before you leave and take some proof of insurance when you go to 
pick up the car.  When you get back in PA you will have something like a month 
to get an inspection.  Put the temporary registration in the window of the car. 
 
 
Hope this helps,
 
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Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

car at the time was an old Austin Marina 4 door, 4 cylinder, 4 speed.
Sometime after I left I lost the brakes or at least most of them. 
Since I

was driving in the very early morning during the week on mostly 2 lane
roads through the countryside, I made it without incident. REALLY 
STUPID,


I've got one of those.  '60 Falcon, returning cross-state to Cow College
(mostly 2-lane roads) after Christmas break with my girlfriend, Saturday
night.  Next to no money, of course.  Partway through the trip I started
hearing odd little noises, and shortly after passing through a small 
town
the noises got not so odd and not so little.  Rear wheel bearing went 
out.

Returned to small town to find only service station now closed.  Decided
to press through, figured we could sleep in the car if necessary.
Bearing chewed itself to small pieces, the heat took out the brakes
(single-circuit), and the geometry change took out the parking brake.
We'd go about 15 MPH for 15 minutes, then stop for 15 minutes and
throw snow on the rear wheel until it stopped hissing.  The trip was
interminable, and definitely a strain on the relationship.  One of the
games I'd like to play in that car was to see how far I could get on my
trips without using the brakes, so I was well-practiced with a 
now-needed
skill!  (The tractors on our farmlet had bad brakes, so this was 
something
you needed to know how to do.)  By the time we got to the next (and 
only)

big town the situation had stabilized, and we decided to continue on
(after a very late dinner) the final 30 miles.

The repair (at the Ford dealership) was actually quite reasonable.
One wheel bearing, a brake slave cylinder rebuild, and a bit of metal
or two for the parking brake.  I think they knew they couldn't put
the bite too hard on college students, and word of mouth definitely
works in a place like that.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Kevin J. Slater

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Not sure if this has been completely answered yet...

 I live in PA and I picked up my car in Boston with a Maine title.  Have
 the owner send you the title, take it to any tag place in PA and get a
 licence plate.  Take the plate with you when you go to pick up the car.
 Put insurance on the car before you leave and take some proof of insurance
 when you go to pick up the car.  When you get back in PA you will have
 something like a month to get an inspection.  Put the temporary
 registration in the window of the car.

 Hope this helps,

Now we're talking! That sounds like good advice. I'll call the seller and
complete the sale so I can get the title. Thanks for chiming in.

...Kevin
87 300TD 284k mi




[MBZ] [Fwd: Ignition replacement for W126]

2006-06-07 Thread dieselbenz24
This is from a write up I did on my W123, I think the only difference may be 
the tool that you use to poke in there to release the tumbler, the w126 may 
require a two prong tool which has an steep angle towards the middle on both 
sides.  Hope this helps.
 
This past weekend I replaced the ignition tumbler in my 82 300TD.  I was 
surprised that the write-ups that I found on the Internet were almost all for 
the w124, the series after mine, which use a different tool and has a different 
process.  It is really very easy.
 
I used a hair pin, one of those symmetrical ones with all the plastic removed 
from the tip, or you could use a pin, but you need very stiff wire.  The w123's 
have a single hole on the face of the tumbler where the key goes in.  By 
inserting the wire in there, after turning the key to position 1 you release a 
protrusion from the tumbler.  You can find this hole by putting the key in and 
turning while gently pushing the hair pin in towards the tumbler.  After you 
push the pin in you can pull on the key which will release the tumbler.  The 
tumbler will come out about an 1/8th of an inch.  At this point you will be 
able to unscrew the black cover that goes around the tumbler.  There is a 
special tool that is used to get good friction on this heavy metal cover as it 
is smooth and can be hard to get started.  I did not use this tool.  After this 
cover is unscrewed both the black cover piece and the tumbler will come 
completely out. You basically just reverse the process to get it all back 
together.  Taking your new tumbler and putting the black cover over it with the 
pin in place then inserting this all into the ignition assembly. You then screw 
the black cover back on until it finally is far enough in that the spring 
loaded protrusion pops out and stops the cover from turning. Finished.
 
Hope this helps someone with this job.  If you wait too long to do this, until 
the tumbler fails it is very expensive and time consuming to have to drill out 
the lock.
 
Regards to the list,
 
Dan Elliott
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Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread BillR
Just before a trip home [VA to FL] from college the starter died on my 1960
Alfa Romeo Spyder.  No problem, I figured to just push start it and make
sure I stopped on hills.  Did fine until I filled up in N. GA.  As I popped
the clutch it went.  I made it from there to Ocala with no clutch or
starter, though I did have a few anxious moments when I discovered that two
new stop lights had been added to my carefully chosen route from the
interstate to the house.  Not something I'd want to do again.
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] need advice  A possibly entertaining story.

Part of that trip reminds me of a trip I took from State College to Virginia
Beach one night while attending Penn State. The rest of my family was down
there at a house along the beach and I wanted to join them. My car at the
time was an old Austin Marina 4 door, 4 cylinder, 4 speed.
Sometime after I left I lost the brakes or at least most of them. Since I
was driving in the very early morning during the week on mostly 2 lane roads
through the countryside, I made it without incident. REALLY STUPID, REALLY
FORTUNATE (God's grace if you ask me) and I hope my own kids are smarter
than that.

...Kevin

John Berryman said:

   This is why I ship UPS, Fed-Ex, etc. I sometimes ship my luggage and

 personal effects to travel destinations and travel real light on the 
 plane. I had my luggage misplaced and as a result, had to spend a 
 couple of days in a hotel in New Orleans. On the airline's tab, meals  
 and drinks included.
   This was when I bought a 300CD from Jason Stearn. It was the day 
 after Christmas 2001 when I flew out, they had just started checking 
 peoples shoes for explosives. I was checked. Being right after
 9/11/01 their was a lot of tension regarding security. I knew I was'nt 
 getting on the plane carrying tools and license plates. All legal 
 paperwork and stickers were in there too. I NEVER, EVER checked 
 luggage up to then and since. The airline delivered it to the hotel 
 intact.
   It was an adventure from the start. There was noise, sounded like
the 
 diff was gonna blow, it didn't change no matter how I hammered it so I 
 sucked it and kept moving. I'm heading out of Baton Rouge to the 
 Adirondack Region of NY (note the date). I did'nt realize that there's 
 no heat until...yup, you got it. There right rear caliper blew. 
 Brakes, who needs 'em?
   I'm running all Interstates all 90-95mph until Tennessee, they'll 
 tolerate 80-85 in a 75. The driver's seat is shot, BAD and there's a 
 nasty winter storm coming. If I drive straight through, with no sleep 
 I can miss the worst of it. Did I mention window regulator broke 
 leaving  the window jammed in a cocked position? Well any way, I'll 
 have some nice crisp air to help keep me awake, no time to fix, gotta 
 beat the storm. Worn Michelin MXVs don't do much on snow and ice.
   You should always behave while driving through Virginia, somehow
this 
 always slips my mind. The weather got uncooperative in Northern Va. 
 and stayed that way for the duration of the adventure. It was a weak 
 attempt at a Wintery Mix but still enough to keep one from becoming 
 bored riding on those skins. The Norther I go the Colder and icier it 
 gets. I'm getting a hint of warm air to the defroster vents so I had 
 some de-icing capability and a somewhat clear area for forward vision 
 most of the time.
I- 81 through Pa was no day at the beach, the icy hilly roads are 
 unforgiving and cause massive pile-ups, often with resultant 
 fatalities. Those familiar can give testimony to that. Fate would have 
 it, as I crest a hill I see about 1/4mile ahead that there's a car on 
 its side , half on the median and two young guys who stopped to help. 
 I was driving way ahead of myself and keeping the speed real sane but 
 it was a real challenge to get her stopped on front brakes only and 
 those lovely tires.
   The kids waved me on saying help was on the way and no one was 
 seriously injured. In my mirror, I watch a 17 car pile-up as I drive 
 off, I heard the number on the news. There were two more pile-ups 
 which I was able to navigate around to avoid being the next crushed car.
   Finally I hit the NY border and settle into a good groove, only 3
 1/2 hours from home and my Sugar Pie. Now that the Demo-Derby on ice 
 is far behind me, I realize it's colder than a mother-in-laws kiss and 
 my feet are numb. I stop in Binghampton for fuel and drive the rest of 
 the way home with sweaters wrapped around my legs.
   We're real generous with the salt up here and this coupe had no idea

 what she was being driven into, as she spent her rust-free life 
 between SoCal and The Big Easy. She hasn't seen road salt since that 
 night. The rest of the ride was relatively uneventful.
  

Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Falcons were near the model T for simplicity.  I had a friend in HS who had 
one with a gazillion miles.  The auto trans got to where it would not shift 
out of low, so he drove it around (slowly) in low with the engine 
screamin'  He later graduated to a 62 falcon van named Butch.  Butch 
finally went to the crusher last fall.


At 08:44 AM 6/7/2006, you wrote:

 car at the time was an old Austin Marina 4 door, 4 cylinder, 4 speed.
 Sometime after I left I lost the brakes or at least most of them.
 Since I
 was driving in the very early morning during the week on mostly 2 lane
 roads through the countryside, I made it without incident. REALLY
 STUPID,

I've got one of those.  '60 Falcon, returning cross-state to Cow College
(mostly 2-lane roads) after Christmas break with my girlfriend, Saturday
night.  Next to no money, of course.  Partway through the trip I started
hearing odd little noises, and shortly after passing through a small
town
the noises got not so odd and not so little.  Rear wheel bearing went
out.
Returned to small town to find only service station now closed.  Decided
to press through, figured we could sleep in the car if necessary.
Bearing chewed itself to small pieces, the heat took out the brakes
(single-circuit), and the geometry change took out the parking brake.
We'd go about 15 MPH for 15 minutes, then stop for 15 minutes and
throw snow on the rear wheel until it stopped hissing.  The trip was
interminable, and definitely a strain on the relationship.  One of the
games I'd like to play in that car was to see how far I could get on my
trips without using the brakes, so I was well-practiced with a
now-needed
skill!  (The tractors on our farmlet had bad brakes, so this was
something
you needed to know how to do.)  By the time we got to the next (and
only)
big town the situation had stabilized, and we decided to continue on
(after a very late dinner) the final 30 miles.

The repair (at the Ford dealership) was actually quite reasonable.
One wheel bearing, a brake slave cylinder rebuild, and a bit of metal
or two for the parking brake.  I think they knew they couldn't put
the bite too hard on college students, and word of mouth definitely
works in a place like that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Its sitting here, lonely

Luther Gulseth wrote:


All for my good buddy Kaleb.
How's my SDL?

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:46:16 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Thanks, you have been a big help.

Luther Gulseth wrote:



then remove the links.  A web page sucks when it has dead links.









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[MBZ] Low Turbo ... not? - Update

2006-06-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think I misdiagnosed this problem as a turbo problem but now I think it
may be fuel starvation.   I noticed a lot of debris in the primary (small)
fuel filter so I suspect I have crud in the fuel tank that is clogging the
in-tank fuel filter.  The car starts and runs fine initially, but after
driving for several miles at highway speed, the car can't maintain speed
going uphill.  If I stop there is plenty of power initially but after about
mile or so, the car lacks power again.  I'll change the secondary fuel
filter next (I have a spare) but I want to get the fuel level down lower
before I try to drain the tank.  And that will take a few days.

Any relevant comments/experience appreciated.  Cheers.

Scott Ritchey
Kittrell NC
1982 300SD 220K
1979 300TD 350K
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Re: [MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..

2006-06-07 Thread Tan Qu
Usually you can get a temporary tag from where you buy
the car by explaining to them that you want to
register the car in a different state but want
something to transport the car legally. You will need
the title signed over to your name and insurance proof
for the car. 


Tan

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 Kevin J. Slater wrote:
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 buy that's located in
  Virginia. It's been sitting for a while so it's
 not inspected and it
  doesn't have plates. I live in PA and I'd like to
 drive it back. (Towing
  isn't an option b/c of other complications for
 this trip.) I don't think I
  can get plates for it in PA since I don't have the
 title. I don't think I
  want to try to get plates in VA since that would
 entail paying a bunch of
  fees that I'll just have to pay again in PA.
  
  You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do?
 Once I get it back in PA
  it's an easy process to get it properly inspected,
 get the title
  transferred and get new plates for it.
  
  ...Kevin
  87 300TD 284k miles
  
  
 
 Have you contacted PennDOT?
 
 I'm pretty sure there IS a way to do what you want,
 but I can't recall 
 what it is.
 
 Check THIS site - esp the next to last paragraph!

http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/vehicles/temp_permit.asp
 
 
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[MBZ] Honda Ad.

2006-06-07 Thread Frederick Moir
Greetings and Salutations.
  LOL @ the Honda ad. Rube Goldberg and Heath Robinson are probably taking 
notes!
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  Wrestling with my 2.5t

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What is the car like

LT Don wrote:

 As in, what is the car like or what are my intentions regarding it?
 
 It is out of your price range by about $6000, Kaleb.
 
 On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
So whats the deal with the E420?  Details



 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Will it make it home?

2006-06-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I did it with my 240D, dropped the exhaust 5 miles from where I bought it. One 
crappy aftermarket exhaust later and I was on my way.
  Radio in the car had no faceplate so I had a little transistor set I kept in 
my lap because that was the only way I could hear it. Screwed up trying to find 
the Tappan Zee bridge and followed I80 from Jersey into PA. Managed to turn the 
5 hour drive home into a 10 hour drive going from Jersey to MA without going 
through CT (figure that one out).
   
  When I bought the 190D the seller insisted I could drive it back. I deferred 
and towed it back. Good thing, 2 bad ball joints and tierod ends made steering 
scary. Bad tires, bad brakes, broken seat springs, no heat, speedo cable 
falling off... All could have been fixed on the road if I'd thought to plan an 
extra day for it.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:04:03 -0700
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On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:45:27PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
 I'm dying to find a good deal I can do this with.

Done it twice with reasonable deals on decently running vehicles, would
consider it again for the road trip for another reasonably running
vehicle.

First was seattle to home (about 30 miles south of san francisco) with 
a
190D five speed with a badly horked transmission. Second was Nashville 
to
home with an 87 300D with a cracked head. Both trips were a lot of fun. 

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Oldest girl child is off to Michigan touring, so that means the Bug is =
home. Since I've last driven it, it seems to have developed a low rpm =
growl/wooo sound (from about 1000 to 1200 rpm). It doesn't do it at idle =
9900 rpm) or when the rpm is above 1200. It does it independent of any =
steering going on but you can feel the noise it the steering wheel.=20

What should I check? I'm going to check PS fluid level since that's the =
only thing I haven't checked yet.
I will be under the bonnet soon (see next post...).

Thanks

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'01 VW Beetle TDI 66K
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[MBZ] Almost Dead Battery in Bug

2006-06-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Einstein left the lights on in the Bug last night. All the acessories work this 
morning, (I remembered to turn off the radio...) but that teeney TDI will not 
start.
What should I set my charger on to give life back to this battery? I believe 
the battery is 3 years old.
I need to put my eyes on my charger to see what settings I have available, but 
a general BTDT form my pals would probably be good.

Thanks again.

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All right...it doesn't idle at 9900 rpm...try 900


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 Oldest girl child is off to Michigan touring, so that means the Bug is
 home. Since I've last driven it, it seems to have developed a low rpm
 growl/wooo sound (from about 1000 to 1200 rpm). It doesn't do it at idle
 9900 rpm) or when the rpm is above 1200. It does it independent of any
 steering going on but you can feel the noise it the steering wheel.

 What should I check? I'm going to check PS fluid level since that's the
 only thing I haven't checked yet.
 I will be under the bonnet soon (see next post...).

 Thanks

 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 154K
 '01 VW Beetle TDI 66K
 Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread LT Don

1994 E420, black w/ black leather interior, I believe. Has been well taken
care of. Last I heard, the asking price was around $7000 / $6500. The blower
motor for the HVAC was replaced a couple of months ago, as part of the deal
when the guy bought a BMW SUV.

Remember Gene who came down to the OkieQ w/ me last year? It is his boss's
car.

On 6/7/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What is the car like

LT Don wrote:

 As in, what is the car like or what are my intentions regarding it?

 It is out of your price range by about $6000, Kaleb.

 On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So whats the deal with the E420?  Details







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Re: [MBZ] Almost Dead Battery in Bug

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

What should I set my charger on to give life back to this battery?


ON is a good start.  What settings do you have to worry about?
12V automatic shutoff (if you have it) is all you usually need to
select.  Some have a low rate that is good for motorcycle and
other smaller batteries, but the usual sold-for-cars charger
is just fine on 'normal' settings.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] O.T. for MB, but Diesel Content (VW)

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Since I've last driven it, it seems to have developed a low rpm 
growl/wooo sound (from about 1000 to 1200 rpm). It doesn't do it at 
idle 9900 rpm) or when the rpm is above 1200. It does it independent 
of any steering going on but you can feel the noise it the steering 
wheel.


Power steering fluid is low.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Falcons were near the model T for simplicity.  I had a friend in HS 
who had
one with a gazillion miles.  The auto trans got to where it would not 
shift
out of low, so he drove it around (slowly) in low with the engine 
screamin'


The 2-speed automatic was good to some 45-50 mph in first gear.
IIRC it was about equivalent to 2 in the 3-speed manual's gears,
and depended on the TC as a pseudo-first gear to get off the line.

That car broke down early and often, yet only actually stranded
me once.  It was amazing how far you could go limping, or by use
of chewing gum, etc.  It got a new rocker bar once, and only a
few hours operation after install I heard a horrid squeaking
because my brother had forgotten to turn on the auxiliary oiler
which ruined the thing.  I just used a file to smooth out the
worst of the scoring, turned it over, turned on the oiler, and
it's been that way ever since.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Almost Dead Battery in Bug

2006-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey

12V automatic shutoff ... is all you usually need to select.


Unless, of course, this is a 6V bug!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] need advice A possibly entertaining story.

2006-06-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
I had a '62 Falcon with the little 170 (?) 6 in it and the 3 on the tree 
tranny. My favorite thing was lifting the hood and seeing more driveway than 
engine. The thing that sucked a bit was that all the '60s Mustangs used the 
same AC parts as the Falcon. The Mustang boys generally had more sweet moola 
to lay down for scarce AC parts than young Falcon drivers did.
All of yous guys have your how I about froze story...well the old Fal-coon, 
with its no AC, gives me an it's too hot story. When boy child was born 
(7/21/89) I was ready to take him home because my wife stayed in the hsp for 
a spell batteling Krohn's, the crusty old nurse would not let me take him 
cross town in my piece of crap with no air...you wanna cook this kid?


Bob Rentfro


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Falcons were near the model T for simplicity.  I had a friend in HS who 
had
one with a gazillion miles.  The auto trans got to where it would not 
shift

out of low, so he drove it around (slowly) in low with the engine
screamin'  He later graduated to a 62 falcon van named Butch.  Butch
finally went to the crusher last fall.

At 08:44 AM 6/7/2006, you wrote:

 car at the time was an old Austin Marina 4 door, 4 cylinder, 4 speed.
 Sometime after I left I lost the brakes or at least most of them.
 Since I
 was driving in the very early morning during the week on mostly 2 lane
 roads through the countryside, I made it without incident. REALLY
 STUPID,

I've got one of those.  '60 Falcon, returning cross-state to Cow College
(mostly 2-lane roads) after Christmas break with my girlfriend, Saturday
night.  Next to no money, of course.  Partway through the trip I started
hearing odd little noises, and shortly after passing through a small
town
the noises got not so odd and not so little.  Rear wheel bearing went
out.
Returned to small town to find only service station now closed.  Decided
to press through, figured we could sleep in the car if necessary.
Bearing chewed itself to small pieces, the heat took out the brakes
(single-circuit), and the geometry change took out the parking brake.
We'd go about 15 MPH for 15 minutes, then stop for 15 minutes and
throw snow on the rear wheel until it stopped hissing.  The trip was
interminable, and definitely a strain on the relationship.  One of the
games I'd like to play in that car was to see how far I could get on my
trips without using the brakes, so I was well-practiced with a
now-needed
skill!  (The tractors on our farmlet had bad brakes, so this was
something
you needed to know how to do.)  By the time we got to the next (and
only)
big town the situation had stabilized, and we decided to continue on
(after a very late dinner) the final 30 miles.

The repair (at the Ford dealership) was actually quite reasonable.
One wheel bearing, a brake slave cylinder rebuild, and a bit of metal
or two for the parking brake.  I think they knew they couldn't put
the bite too hard on college students, and word of mouth definitely
works in a place like that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] a car for don

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

ohhh

LT Don wrote:


1994 E420, black w/ black leather interior, I believe. Has been well taken
care of. Last I heard, the asking price was around $7000 / $6500. The blower
motor for the HVAC was replaced a couple of months ago, as part of the deal
when the guy bought a BMW SUV.

Remember Gene who came down to the OkieQ w/ me last year? It is his boss's
car.




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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. for MB, but Diesel Content (VW)

2006-06-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Thats what I thought when the pully/damper fell off the 85 300D.

Jim Cathey wrote:

Since I've last driven it, it seems to have developed a low rpm 
growl/wooo sound (from about 1000 to 1200 rpm). It doesn't do it at 
idle 9900 rpm) or when the rpm is above 1200. It does it independent 
of any steering going on but you can feel the noise it the steering 
wheel.



Power steering fluid is low.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage

2006-06-07 Thread George Larribeau

Thank you Steve,

Pivot for linkage to cruse control servo 180 out of phase .silly me .of 
course last night the car was not driving quite right loss of power shifting 
early .or something . total insanity set in over night. (I use to have 
confidence) for some reason I started believing that I did not tighten the 
locknuts on the valve adjusters properly and they were getting lose pending 
doom and disaster (maybe it was just the numeric value of yesterdays date), 
got up at 5am, removed valve cover every thing hunky dory .. Silly Me .


George Larribeau
Dallas, Texas

1985 300SD 190K
1987 HD FLHTC 86K
1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K
1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS
1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra
Ugly,but runs)


1993 BMW 323i  115K (Wife's Car)
1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)

- Original Message - 
From: George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage



one of the pivots spun 180 deg around

Did not think of that, will investigate ...

George Larribeau



- Original Message - 
From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage



You've put something back wrong, or something is caught (or binding) on
another piece. I've had this happen on top of the valve cover, where you
(I
assume) have two pivots where multiple linkages join.

Make sure the pivots are not catching. Also, it's actually possible for
the
linkages to work with at least one of the pivots spun 180 deg around, so
make sure they are okay.

Anyone on the list got an '85 SD and a digicam, to send George a quick 
pic

of the linkage setup? I have an '82, and I'd rather it be the right (MY)
car

Mac

on 6/6/06 10:46 AM, George Larribeau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


After I adjusted the valves on my SD I found that the throttle linkage
was
pushing the pump throttle lever a bit causing high idle (950 - 1000). I
tried
to be careful when removing the linkage and replacing it. In an attempt
to get
back to where it was. Is it possible to do this.Am I wasiting my time? I
wanted to avoid re-adjusting it ..



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Re: [MBZ] Almost Dead Battery in Bug

2006-06-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Yes...that sould right. I haven't messed with a charger in years. I may even 
have loaned mine out to my dad. Better find it.


Bob Rentfro


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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Dead Battery in Bug



What should I set my charger on to give life back to this battery?


ON is a good start.  What settings do you have to worry about?
12V automatic shutoff (if you have it) is all you usually need to
select.  Some have a low rate that is good for motorcycle and
other smaller batteries, but the usual sold-for-cars charger
is just fine on 'normal' settings.

-- Jim


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